gameplay-help

[warm axle]

fatass give me more QoL

[strange thunder]

you get an ugly dodge bar

final offer

[keen flume]

there few mods

[elfin sedge]

Can I instead have a 30% chanc of crashing any time a teammate triggers a dh?

[strange thunder]

most fps improving mods disable various fx

[fierce charm]

Oh fr?

[strange thunder]

so if you still want things to look pretty they're not ideal

[fierce charm]

I don't really mind if it doesn't look pretty as long as I can still tell what everything is

[fierce charm]

Honestly, this would be a life saver

[strange thunder]

I get crashes on ppl dying usually

[fierce charm]

Do you have a list?

[strange thunder]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/521
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/371
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/293
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/104
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/424

few of em

[fierce charm]

Thank you very much 😊

[strange thunder]

always useful to just scroll down the list of most endorsed mods as well https://www.nexusmods.com/games/warhammer40kdarktide/mods?sort=endorsements

[vocal nacelle]

There's config setting that makes darktide looked like playdoh

[meager grove]

The Zealot class is not being able to use the tech priest station nor the contracts.

[vocal nacelle]

Battle of tertium campaign disable all interact ion unless you reach certain stage

[fierce charm]

Lol, I'll have to give it a try

[quiet wharf]

can't see nvidia frame gen on darktide video settings? any idea?

[wooden rain]

is the buff today ranged or stims

[vale anvil]

a bit late, but it's ranged

[warped basin]

how do I make the game queue inputs instead of flat-out cancelling my input to change weapon until my current weapon's attack animation is done?

it results in me continuing to attack with my ranged weapon, completely ignoring my button press to switch to my melee - the complete opposite of what happens in every other game I play

[fickle ether]

There's mods that can help with that otherwise pray to the servers you arent desynced

[warm axle]

where can i see all the mortis trials modifiers?

[polar forum]

gameslantern should have this info

[warped basin]

what causes the ping key to stop working mid-match and how is it reliably fixed? I randomly kept alt-tabbing and pressing keys and one of those fixed it but not sure which one

[keen flume]

Weirdly been having that issue too

it happens randomly and starts working again

[merry slate]

how come sometimes i have extra ammo in my backpack

like shredder autopistol usually has the 700 ammo then idk why but i get 1200 ammo on other games

[warm axle]

recently?

[merry slate]

yes

[warm axle]

that happens to me too but only in the event missions

[merry slate]

wait is it only for the event?

[warm axle]

clueless ngl

its just something ive noticed

[merry slate]

its very nice though

[warm axle]

bcs it didnt happen at the very beggining of the event as far i can tell

[merry slate]

queueing event real quick to see

ok yeah i think it might be from event

[keen flume]

Event buff modifier

[merry slate]

ok yeah i just checked the tab menu

[warm axle]

reading is lava moment

i have 100 hours in this game and still feel like a noob

[warm axle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/mortis-trials/buffs
it does

[grave moon]

Best mode ever

I like when I get the colossus buffs

I don't believe that has the whole list

Either that or they really need to be better organized

[warm axle]

is there a way to know how many hours you have per class

[polar forum]

You could get a rough estimate through the true level mod

I don’t think actual time is recorded though

[warm axle]

[faint perch]

I like it too, but my usual crew find it too difficult because they don't understand why staying in coherence is important

[warm axle]

i always try to atleast stay in coherence with one teammate

mainly to get the aura buffs

[faint perch]

Being near each other makes everyone stronger and can also be the difference between wiping and a minor inconvenience when things are getting crazy

(I know you know that, just putting it out there to the universe)

[robust crescent]

takes notes

[warm axle]

after playing both vts i realized theres no better crowd control than staying in group

dt polishes that with coherence and by forcing you to stick to someone in some missions

[torpid roost]

does the 3 man carry cheese still work for the 'on overwatch' penance and if so where would i go to look for a team to help with that?

[clear plume]

yes

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075

[faint perch]

Absolutely. Plus I could be wrong, but it seems like wandering away from the group increases the chances of hounds spawning

[grave moon]

Rng you were just that lucky

[warm axle]

isnt bcs of the AI director?

hounds is bcs the event

[faint perch]

Purely guessing, but I think the event affects the spawns, but the AI director will start throwing hounds at people who wander off too long and too far. If I go exploring I will definitely start to hear some howling

Even at low difficulty

[vocal nacelle]

yes there's loner spawn if you are strayed away from group mutant or dog will target you

[ebon tulip]

Any tips how to get ~~Poxbuster ~~ Poxbreaker fast? Any trick to it?

[ebon tulip]

Last time I got thrown by CS into the wall co hard, that I could not move and no one could hit me. I was ogryn, so I could taunt. I protected my team in a sick way: in the coffin of concrete, I was the target for mass of different monsters, specials and hordes. While by team... well... lets say Auric Maelstrom got little boring.

We were lucky that I was needen only for the final evac.

[clear plume]

Play the highest difficulty you can survive in

[keen flume]

how you mean get poxbuster fast?

You mean the enemy or the title Poxbreaker?

[ebon tulip]

Yes

[keen flume]

Keep playing thats the only answer

Killing 1M enemies is gonna take hundreds if not thousands of hours

I am over 1100 hours and i am still only halfway

[ebon tulip]

Then how I saw user with ~400h with poxbreaker?

[keen flume]

Unemployed person for sure smh

It just depends how much you time you have

[faint perch]

Any idea what class & weapons they were using?

[vernal plaza]

I got mine after 1700h
Either the hours played is fucced or he just grinding it hard

[faint perch]

2500 kills per hour.
41.7 kills per minute.
I guess that's possible, if they are skilled right from the start and spent little time in the lex

[strange thunder]

I was under or around 1k when I got mine

[languid jewel]

Lol had all other nametags before poxbreaker

Sussy for sure

[ebon tulip]

I am almost sure there is a trick to it, like - using mortis trials infinite spawn.

I am thinking about it more in categories of tester, if this is possible.

[strange thunder]

I mean I didn't do anything special beside almost exclusively playing auric and a bit of havoc

[ebon tulip]

It looks like infinite spawn has semi-trigger. You need to kill some part of last spawn wave to trigger next. Tried with inaccessible location, without killing anything.

[strange thunder]

well ye it's infinite in the sense that it will keep replenishing itself

not that enemy counts will reach infinity

fixed enemy counts is what made soloing on stuff like havoc 40 reliable

[ebon tulip]

What I meant - enemies will not be generated, if at least part of previous group is not eliminated. At least: in mortis trials round 3, 6, 9

BTW, found trick - Warp GSword Special + Shriek + Soul Blaze + BB (with Soul Flyer). Both penetrate walls, spread (each tik of SoulBurn can trigger BB). Can kill everything besides crushers. I am deep enough to be outside of Monstrorities and Mutant reach. Flamer, Gas, Flame Granades can't get me too.

Crushers cant reach me in melee, so will not use Overhead that would get me with its reach and AoE (for some reason - it can be bigger then tentacle grab xD).

I need a trick to kill PoxBusters after bots are dead.

Probably two psykers with simmilar builds should be able to use this to hold indefinetly (until players sanity runs out)

[near raven]

Is there a difference between Cleave Damage and Cleave Targets, as in the weapon stats? They both seem to affect "Attack Cleave Damage Distribution" for lights and heavies.

[strange thunder]

I think unless you're not actively going for a specific scenario penance

just play the game normally for poxbreaker

[strange thunder]

targets is how many enemies your attacks can cleave, if they have a hitmass of 1

higher hitmass means it's harder to cleave them

damage is how much the cleaving attack does to targets that's not the initial one

[near raven]

Cleave Targets still seems to only affect "Attack Cleave Damage Distribution" rather than just targets hit, though

[strange thunder]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3286161222

this explains blessings and what their related things to

[near raven]

Thank you

...okay yeah, so it seems like "Cleave Damage" and "Cleave Targets" actualyl are both the same, and that they only increase the number of targets hit

[strange thunder]

ah ok

typical FS wording then

[ebon tulip]

They did not play Magic the Gathering 😛

[ebon tulip]

Psyker like I mentioned, with any character that can roll Pyrokinetics perk "
Faith Burns Away Heresy" - pulse emanates from player every 20s applying burn stacks. Ogryn with loyal protector is best pick, because can get "taunt applies burning stacks".

[woeful otter]

Is there any way to see attack patterns on different marks of weapon, without needing to change marks?

[strange thunder]

looking at guides on weapon patterns really

[pastel forge]

Ye

[strange thunder]

but it's not like changing marks is difficult in psykhanium

like just test shit out there

[pastel forge]

Fatshark is really fucking allergic to telling you stuff

[woeful otter]

Issue is when I get a new wapon and don't have the mastery to go back if I hate the other mark.

But guides it is.

[strange thunder]

even if they tell you stuff, what it actually is is a different one

[strange thunder]

I mean, you really have to max a weapon's mastery before you can really judge it

and then using it with maxed stats, good perks and blessings

because stuff like psyker staves really suck when not maxed

a gun or a melee can still do decent stuff

a staff just overloads or/and is slow

[pastel forge]

Or stuff like rashad caxe without headtaker+brumentum+unarmored perk

[strange thunder]

staves have it a bit worse than missing one-taps

[pastel forge]

Pord without power cycler

[pastel forge]

...

Pycler

[mint sapphire]

Any tips/tricks/mods/whatever that make it easier to time weapon chains, especially during the heat of combat? I'm using relic blade and aiming for light, light, heavy, heavy and in practice arena find myself mistiming it

[clear plume]

Tips is just practice, if you ever need to reset your attack combo, block then unblock this will reset it fully

Relic blade is a combo heavy weapon

One of the rare complicated weapon in darktide

[mint sapphire]

@clear plume heard chef. ty for tips

[mint sapphire]

I find myself just spamming left click in a big auric horde, is that a mindset I need to unlearn and actually combo in combat when things are crazy?

[clear plume]

That is a bad habit but it can work for situations that you need to think of other things, like an escape route or listening for specials

But using a weapon combo will clear enemies faster then not using them

[strange thunder]

there's a mod for such https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/510

[mint sapphire]

ya I've got that mod which does really well time efficient combos (light light heavy heavy with relic blade), but trying to be able to do it on my own routinely. I initially got the mod cuz my fingers hurt after playing too much combat blade

i think what would be better is a big visual indicator of when a swing is in a timing window of chains, or which swing just swung, idk

obvi just reps in the game too, but I just started and trying to accelerate my gameplay faster

the idea of slowing down and doing combos during intense havoc missions feels crazy right now

[strange thunder]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/287

idt there's much beside that

[mint sapphire]

ooooo @strange thunder gonna check that out

[hasty glen]

hey guys, could someone help me with the dog whistle mod for some reason it won't auto tag enemies.

[void forge]

Your best bet is asking in the modding discord, you can find it in #📌communities

[hasty glen]

thx

[fickle blaze]

my friend is getting an error stating "backend error: error signing in", any idea how to resolve this?

he's tried validating files, reinstalling, restarting pc, running game as admin, switching to a diff dns server, cleared it and its anti cheat for firewall and some other stuff

[vocal nacelle]

Try VPN

[mint sapphire]

with relic blade and flame thrower on zealot, am I supposed to use flame for groups of crushers? or headshot blade? cuz the blade (empowered) doesn't seem that effective

[polar forum]

flamer is basically useless against crushers

relic blade will work well, esp if you have the charge ult or stealth

but you need to use the single target combos

[mint sapphire]

ah ok, ya mostly i do sweeping attacks

must be why

[polar forum]

those are for horde clear yeah

you want stabs / strikedowns

for crushers

RB combos are a bit complicated

[vocal nacelle]

power sprint heavy stab

or the single target moveset

[fiery bay]

if i wanna convert weapons to xp how much should i upgrade them before sacrificing? all the way to orange?

[stoic locust]

green

Only rating matters

[fiery bay]

ah okay ty

tyvm

[polar forum]

green like he said, and make sure you sacrifice weapons of the same family otherwise there's an 80% penalty

[fiery bay]

Family being melee > melee?

[polar forum]

oh sorry

like duelling sword > duelling sword

very little flexibility

[fiery bay]

ah okay, ty

i was wondering why it seemd like such a small, poor amount and i guess that 80% is why lmao

ty again

[stoic locust]

It costs on average 350k to go from 0-19 just by buying greens

[fiery bay]

thats not too bad

[stoic locust]

Yeah

and the bonus of rolling 350k in bases is you find at least one perfect stat set

[mint sapphire]

are weekly contracts per characters or per account?

[stoic locust]

Per character

[mint sapphire]

ah interesting, but the currency you earn is per account it seems

[keen flume]

Yes the currencies are account shared

Only thing that is character locked is the equipment earned

[rocky nova]

Why are dregs so hard to find for a weekly? On all 4 characters I have one weekly left - elieminate X dregs. So I join random mission, I see scabs, I leave (and feel bad for leaving a squad), join another, leave, join another, leave, finaly dregs, squad dies after 5 minutes 🙁
Is it because the event only spawns scabs?
Are there specific dreg missions?

[vocal nacelle]

spawn are rng unless you play the campaign

[rocky nova]

so should I opt out from randmly match making into campaign or play campaign missions myself? which one spawns dregs?

[vocal nacelle]

Try dark communion or hab drekyo

[ebon tulip]

What is good and easy to create composition to get 5x Auric Maelstorm? Scream-Team? (mix of vet/zealot/psyker with "screaming" abilities) Or try with invisibility rush?

I am tired of dying around 3/5 and I don't want to play crippling scare-cat, and I am not skilled enought to tackle it with randoms.

But I can do Aurics with 7/10 success ratio (depends on teams, maps, conditions).

[inland lichen]

Time to make some new friends.

[vocal nacelle]

avoid the too spicy modifier

[ebon tulip]

From VT2 I remember "scream team" composition that rotated abilities activation to stun-lock enemies. Looking at what each class (besides Arbitres) has - it should be possible. But I don't know if it is really viable in Auric Maelstrom (should be, if condition with -20% cooldown kicks in).

TBH, my successful runs were with poxbusters / gas. First because reasonable use of Smite/Staff used PoxBusters to eliminate other crap. Second because of access to healing stims that could protect from being dead.

Barrels... Barrels... on Gloriana... NOPE xD

I remembered Only Melee + Only Scab was easy with old 'Nade Vet. But now it seems endless wave of metal...

[vocal nacelle]

i would avoid this modifier

the rest is doable

[ebon tulip]

I got 2x success with grounds + pox + mutas + barrels + blitz, but mostly because of mix of 2 psykers (flame staff + Smite + Shriek, electro staff + smite + Shriek), vet (?), arbitres (no dog, shock mine). Map was, proably Carnival with finale in Amphtythatre.

Probably because psykers were baby-sitted by the rest, while they were disabling and burning everything in rotation.

[rocky nova]

what is enhanced blitz as mission modifier?

[rocky nova]

Either RNG miracle or some dev tweeked spawn rates. I have been getting dregs all day on every mission. Two characters already done with the weeklies.

[lime idol]

Hold 2 extra charges of blitz that have charges
All psyker blitz actions generate 50% less peril

[dense tulip]

Me, a humble blades of faith zealot, enjoying my +2 knives as the ogryn next to me gets +2 nukes

[rocky nova]

So a veteran gets to store 3 shouts in his back pocket?

[shadow skiff]

No, more 'nades.

[rocky nova]

oh yeah, blitzes, sure, thanks

[storm glen]

Does this new menu mean that you can now finally play any mission you want at any time?

[split obsidian]

No, but you can replay campaign missions, I think.

[keen flume]

replay campaign missions

Think you can also rewatch the end cutscenes if you press the transmission icon

[storm glen]

Aren't the campaign missions just normal missions?

[split obsidian]

mmm, iiirc they give less rewards?

last I checked they were like 24? 34k? credits vs 44k? normal auric missions?

[clear crystal]

Hi! Do Mortis Trials provide MORE weapon xp then regular missions? I assume that it would but for some reason it seems like it provides less

[void forge]

Why would you assume it gives more XP when it is an easier mode?

[clear crystal]

Idk, i guess cuz theres more enemies

Also for me its harder then regular missions

In my experience, losing in Mortis Trials is way more often then campaign or other missions

[void forge]

Well I don't know how else to say this but the sentiment in this discord is generally that mortis trials are super easy compared to normal missions 🤷‍♂️

[keen flume]

Yes but gives exclusive modifiers

and new dialogue

thats about it really

[clear crystal]

Interesting, for me its the opposite 😄

[strange thunder]

rewards are only based on the mission itself and auric missions and their variants are usually more rewarding

[left charm]

I've seen some like red rarity weapons, what's up with those and how do I get them?

[smoky ember]

mod

[left charm]

Goddammit lmao

[smoky ember]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/380

[left charm]

I keep seeing new stuff i hadn't seen before like stat screens at the ends of missions and they all just turn out to be mods lmao

I'm too gullible for this

[clear plume]

Sadly fatshark is known to not add any QoL stuff

So it's often mods if you see something cool

Good news is that it only took Vermintide 5 years to get some of the QoL mods added to base game

So just wait a few more years

[vernal plaza]

We have dodge counter thats the QoL update this year

[clear plume]

only took ~3 years

[warm axle]

"extra barrels" is actually diabolical

someone knows if bursters have the same knockback force than barrels?

[grave moon]

It's a little more knock back from burster in my opinion

I believe though it matters how much impact each thing does

[grave moon]

A Pox Burster explosion generally has a much higher impact and is significantly more lethal to players than a standard explosive barrel explosion. Barrels deal less raw damage and can sometimes be survivable, whereas a Burster explosion is often fatal, especially in higher difficulties.

The higher the difficulty the worse

Why in case someone is shooting at a burster while I push i keep my block up in case it explodes

[warm axle]

ough i hate that

bro cant you see im right in front

[vocal nacelle]

barrel is fine actually

im more horrified at burster wave

[warm axle]

i just have beef with barrels

[vocal nacelle]

just stack 3-4 buster you can oneshot vet/psyker

but im ogryn main so i eat burster for breakfast

[warm axle]

i really hate when you just used a medicae

and immediately after you get jumpscared by a burster

pain

[vernal plaza]

Ah yes the sudden death modifier
Burster sniper mutant barrels

[grave moon]

Lol the funniest part is when they heavily guard the medicade

Lol had a few situations when horde and heavy armor be chilling next to it

[civic kindle]

sniper wave during wave 9 on the Void map can be... mildly annoying, too

depending on your and your team's builds

[swift marlin]

guys idk where to type it but.
my video/graphics settings keep resetting to default

any idea how to fix ?

[vocal nacelle]

check launcher setting

there's reset setting every update checkbox

i think

[mint sapphire]

pysker build- blazing force sword vs blazing force greatsword on a lightning build, any preferences?

[clear plume]

and what would a lightning build contain?

[mint sapphire]

infinite smite build, it's sciers gaze and empowered psionics

[clear plume]

oh.

well

depends on what you struggle against

single hand force sword are good for utility with uncanny and deflector with good mobility

and greatsword are good single target damage, for crushers and bosses

[grave moon]

I would probably go for fgs because smite won't kill just stagger really

[mint sapphire]

ahhh

ya i do need boss dps

ty both for recs

[polar forum]

this is generally frowned upon

[faint perch]

Let people frown. Play the build you like

[polar forum]

yeah, just don't be surprised if someone barrels you off a cliff

[faint perch]

Good luck to them. I've been working on the no health loss penance. My paranoia keeps me safe

[polar forum]

it's your teammates that are doing the actual killing that are keeping you safe

[mint sapphire]

@polar forum oh really? I love playing with mages who constantly cc via smite. I didn't realize people dont like it.

[stoic locust]

Smite isn't fun to play with because it disables everything and just converts an encounter into a dps check

[vocal nacelle]

it depends on the player , smite user stereotype is they spam it 24/7 not doing any damage and just die from overhead

[languid jewel]

A lot of people have main character syndrome so they hate it if someone else is usefull even if its just mass cc

[languid jewel]

With shriek amd empyric resolve you can kinda make an infinite smite build

[mint sapphire]

Ahhh ok Ok! Man I gotta check in here more often. I saw. Mr E infinite smite psyker build and just assumed it would be good to use at high levels

[polar forum]

it's totally fine if you use it when shit gets hairy or on selective targets

people dislike it when someone just smites the entire game

[polar forum]

that unironically describes all smykers i've encountered

[mint sapphire]

Got it good to know. I may as well just practice fire mage as that seems to be the main meta

[polar forum]

infernus is stupid strong

[languid jewel]

Yeah smite is only good up to auric imo

Then it kinda falls off

[polar forum]

has nobody done 4x smyker h40 clear yet?

i know there was an attempt a while back

but it didn't work out

[languid jewel]

No clue

Id imagine so

But not with smykers

I think that comp would desperately struggle with bosses.

[polar forum]

i think a few guys in psyker chat were trying to do a 4x smite only or something

[polar forum]

i imagine that might have to do with why they didn't succeed lol

[languid jewel]

Smyker succs for bosses

[languid jewel]

[warm axle]

what would be the best way to grind plasteel and diamantine

mortis trials or havoc chests

[stoic locust]

Havoc once a week and auric quickplay

Mortis is gods awful for diamantine

[grave moon]

Yes auric and weekly havoc. I only do mortis if I get bored grinding but at least get a small source of it

Damnation if you can't do auric anything before that is eh

[zealous dome]

Yeah on that same mentioned attempt at 4 smykers havoc
They lost to a Chaos Spawn

But like, they knew bosses would be tricky

[coral relic]

Whats the mod called that lets you go shop, queue etc from inventory / esc menu? (not character select)

[strange thunder]

it's something menu

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/166

[coral relic]

Thanks!

[warm axle]

could someone summarize or send a guide about

enemy types
like whats the difference between elites, specialists, carapace, flak armour, maniacs

[clear plume]

ah

imbed fail

[warm axle]

seems more like a paste fail

[clear plume]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743

there

[warm axle]

ty fam

[lime cargo]

Does pushing count as a melee attack?

Like, will this proc by pushing?

[clear plume]

yes

this is from kuli's guide on steam

[lime cargo]

Thanks Ainz

[clear plume]

"Hits with melee attacks, pushes, and Indomitable / Bull Rush that successfully stagger the target (including hits against already staggered targets) "

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094034467&searchtext=ogryn

[lime cargo]

Saved

[lethal flicker]

quick questions about the event, are there more rations if you go higher in difficulty and is the whole team counting towards your advancement ? the emperor protects

[warm axle]

well kinda yes

thougher enemies drop more rations, like monstrosities drop 2 big rashions
but drops arent guaranteed

the more enemies the more rashuns basically

not sure about ration spawns tho, and wdym with the whole team

[lethal flicker]

if someone from my team takes a ration, does that counts toward my advancement, or i myself need to get the 4.5k

[warm axle]

it counts

i got the first tier in my very first event mission

200 or sum

[lethal flicker]

thanks for the answers

[woeful otter]

Potentially daft question: is there any convenient way to change out exclusive skills with one another?
I want to change blitz skills but it's so. many. clicks.

[faint perch]

Not that I know of. And I agree. I end up taking a screenshot to recreate it

[woeful otter]

I use presets to avoid needing to re-click everything if I go back, but still.

[leaden turret]

@woeful otter they really need to just make the trees in a way that allows you to pick any talent, but you can only save it if it conforms to the rules.

[faint perch]

I agree. Blitzs and abilities should be swappable by double clicking what you want

[polar forum]

are you on PC?

if so, you're in luck

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/216

[leaden turret]

Has anyone tried this? https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/216

[polar forum]

if not, then very sadly no

[woeful otter]

I am on PC - thank you.

[faint perch]

Wow, not sure how I missed that one. Thank you

[polar forum]

the mod does what you'll need

[polar forum]

it's an old mod but still works thankfully

[leaden turret]

Awesome!

[polar forum]

oh yeah that's what i just linked

yup still works like a charm

[faint perch]

Every single mod maker is a legend

[polar forum]

darktide would be so painful without mods

[faint perch]

some people avoid them because they feel like they're cheating, but I feel like it's quality of life stuff and things that are useful training, mostly

[warm axle]

whats the mod for the improved psykhanium

or if theres one that allows you to spawn monstrosities, captains and plasma gunners lmk

[vocal nacelle]

creature spawner

[warm axle]

we lowk need that in vanilla psykhanium

atleast plasma gunners

[tame anchor]

4 bosses at once is possible on auric maelstrom?

[vocal nacelle]

yes but it should be rare tho

[warm axle]

ive seen 5 at once in some vids lol

captain, daemon and 3 monstrosities

not a thing that happens on purpose, but bcs your team cant deal with allat the easy way

[tame anchor]

we were in a hallway

i hear plague ogryn, teammate says "its behind us" but I see it coming from the front

I thought I was going the wrong way

[woeful otter]

Does damage resistance (gunners) only worked against named gunners, or any ranged enemy?

[stoic locust]

Gunners and reapers

It does not apply to non killfeed shooters, plasma gunners, or shotgunners

[woeful otter]

Thank you!

[stoic locust]

Also, it stacks multplicatively with itself

So it goes on a curve of 20%->36%->49%

[faint perch]

I hope if we ever get a Darktide 2, Fatshark will look at the community mods and make many of their features default

(and also make the maps feel more varied. Alternate paths. Choices that affect events during the missions, etc)

[tame anchor]

not working against plasma gunners is very disappointing

[cloud adder]

So.. Thoughness is not a shield, but more a damage reduction (except Arbitrator)?

Even with half full toughness, you still get damaged?

[vocal nacelle]

Depends on what type of damage

And what kind of toughness

Melee damage will spill into your health

While ranged damage will get blocked by toughness

There's also fire and pox gas

[cloud adder]

the normal blue one:
Once it goes below ~85-90%, melee damage spills through and takes away health (lesser than without toughness).

So a build, that goes for toughness isent as lucrative as one that clears fast?

[cloud adder]

are there different "levels" of the POX gas, or is it (besides Karnak Twins), always the same? (Map Modifier/Enemy)

[vocal nacelle]

more useful , you just need to stay at 100% toughness

[languid jewel]

A good team can stay on 100 pretty easy and consistent. Theres lots of ways to regen toughness but only medatations amd packs heal your health at all.

Also golden toughness exists

I usually treat my healthbar as nonexistent

Taking damage big bad

[smoky ember]

toughness absorbs all ranged damage, and a percentage of melee damage. If you have a 100% toughness, it will absorb all of the melee damage, but if you have 75% toughness, it will absorb 75% of the melee damage, and 25% will go to your health

some attacks, overheads (maulers and crushers) ignore toughness as a whole unless you have golden toughness

[smoky ember]

toughness is still good, ranged enemies are dangerous, and most builds can regen plenty of toughness to stay at 100% in most situations

[faint perch]

Where did you get that data?

[polar forum]

there's a few places you can look but vet pins has a guide

[faint perch]

Thank you. I wish I'd known this before attempting the Untouchable penance

[dense brook]

Is anybody up for helping a new Zealot to complete "Just a flesh wound" Penance?

[faint perch]

As you were told, ask in LFG

[warm axle]

whats the difference between fire and green fire from the flamers

[clear plume]

nothing

visual

one is dreg other is scab

[warm axle]

[dense tulip]

you'd think green flames would add corruption or something

[fickle ether]

Ngl that would suck lol glad FS didnt do that

[keen sonnet]

Im ngl toxflamers probably should corrupt but they'd be some of the most annoying enemies

Like the flamers already suck to deal with lmfao

[wheat night]

Tox flamer deals corruption damage

[keen sonnet]

I'm like hardcore not remembering it then

[wheat night]

FIRE DEATH RENEWAL

[lime idol]

They don’t

[wheat night]

don't they?

google and wiki says otherwise

so does my memory

[clear plume]

Flamers do not deal corruption damage, they might cause it in havoc with their melee because of emperor's fading light

[wheat night]

that might have been it

[keen flume]

I did honestly thought for long time that tox flamer would give the enemies movement speed same as tox bomber cloud

Glad it does not

[warm axle]

dumb question

can a psyker´s shield block a trapper´s projectile

[clear plume]

yes

but it just doesnt like to work sometimes

its coded to eat all projectiles

but if you are close enough it spawns before the server can read it as a projectile that can be removed

and thus traps you

this is another example of it not working

[warm axle]

trampers are better at sniping than snipers

ty for the info, i was sure there was something going on abt it

[vernal plaza]

Fatshark
That explains why ive got netted a few times last week

[cosmic sky]

Doesn't help that na east servers are infamously terrible ATM.

[coral relic]

any doc with attack pattern of he Munitorum

Munitorum Mk III Shock Maul

[polar forum]

Vet pins

[mint sapphire]

For arbites shock maul and supression shield, is dump stat power output?

[clear plume]

inspect the stat and see if you want it or not

its preference

[mint sapphire]

ah ok

[clear plume]

iirc is only radius of stun and distance

with special

[polar forum]

probably the better dumption

dump option

alternative is dumping defense

which can leave you vulnerable if you try to block a crusher overhead on low stam

it'll go through

[mint sapphire]

ya i've got both, guess I'll level both and see what I prefer

[fiery bay]

they should add a gesture that makes your dog pet-able by other people on the morningstar too

oop wrong chanel

[last pivot]

chat

i keep trying to do the achievement for the zealot dash penance against a mutant

and its not working

especially with this event i thought it wouldbe easy but idk why it not work

[last pivot]

nevermind chat turns out ... "chastise the wicked" is not actually what gets u the achievement like it says in the penance and on steam you actually have to use fury of the faithful

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-smart-5head-gif-13473979

[inland lichen]

I just did an auric maelstrom. I heard it increases your havoc rank, but mine is still at like 1.

[little coyote]

If you have completed an auric maelstrom before starting havoc you get to start at rank 15 iirc, don't know if it works retroactively

[inland lichen]

I unlocked havoc back when it allowed you to do a very low rank maelstrom mission

Right around the time auric became the new damnation

And sedition got nuked

So my havoc is stuck at like rank 1 this entire time

Will doing more auric maelstroms raise it? or do I actually have to interact with the party finder and how some people are actually willing to play very low havoc

[little coyote]

Auric Maelstrom will only get you to 15 or 16 (don't remember which) if you haven't played any havoc missions prior. It would happen as an instant level up instead of gradual increase

At least that's how I interpreted the system

Someone else could probably confirm if playing auric malestrom would increase the rank even if you have played lower level havocs already

[inland lichen]

I guess I'm screwed then

Since my very first maelstrom wasn't auric

Which then unlocked havoc by speaking with dukane

And had me start at 1

[little coyote]

You maybe should've completed the auric one before talking to her, but that's just a guess

[inland lichen]

The first time I ever did a maelstrom was like...

Almost 4 months ago

And I only just now figured it's time to play havoc, so I did an auric maelstrom hoping it would rank me up

[vocal nacelle]

talk to dukane and do auric again

[little coyote]

After digging around a bit, you should be able to get to 16 by doing the auric one even if you've interacted with the system around rank 1

[inland lichen]

Once more, unto the breach.

[inland lichen]

Huh. Worked.

[cloud adder]

Does Enfeeble also work for the Electrokinetic Force Staff's Charged Attack?

Meaning, does the Stuff Charged Attack, electrocute enemies and does this trigger Enfeeble?

[craggy minnow]

Yeah

Also the melee perk on the other side of smite, voltaic stuff in mortis, and stuff like shock maul idr if psyker gets

[cloud adder]

that is great, thanks

[little coyote]

Man I might adjust my built to get that then

I main electrokinetic and shock maul at the moment

[fiery bay]

Is there a way I can make some people's name display properly instead of as boxes? I'm assuming they're characters that just aren't in the english client?

[sinful summit]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/149

[fiery bay]

lit ty

wasnt sure if i had to go to nexus or not

hell yeah now i can see other weebs and whatnot

[faint perch]

I kinda need it. I live in Japan. There might be weebs amongst them, but probably not

[fiery bay]

lol

yeah definitely seems more neccessary in your case

[noble elbow]

do medicae crates also count as medicae stations in No Provisions penance?

[strange thunder]

no

[livid kettle]

hey just to be sure, the stats for weapons can only all 80 if one of them is 61 right..?

[lime idol]

61 is a rounding display issue
Could be that one of the 80 stats is actually 79.5 (rounded to 80) and the 60.5 is rounded to 61

It’s not a big issue really unless u have OCD

[livid kettle]

oh okay

i was just confused cuz i only experienced all 80 and 60

and brought my friend into the game that has it

so i was so confused

[thorn sequoia]

How to get back into Darktide after a year? Idek what to expect and I don’t want to be lost

[clear plume]

did you play after crafting update?

[thorn sequoia]

The uh

The one that changes the shop?

[clear plume]

the armory, Hadrons

[thorn sequoia]

Yes

[clear plume]

the only change then you need to worry about is the talent tree reworks

and with those every class chat has guides to help sooth into understanding the tree

[thorn sequoia]

Ok dope

There’s the new class right?

[clear plume]

yes

5 classes now

with a 6th soon

[thorn sequoia]

Also new gamemodes?

[clear plume]

Mortis, havoc, normal board

3 gamemodes

[thorn sequoia]

Ok so the Karnak twins are gone?

[clear plume]

mortis is a party like game, mess around get super strong. havoc is end end gamemode, comparable to weaves from VT2

[thorn sequoia]

Mhmmmm

[clear plume]

twins are now part of campaign that you can acess through the mission board

with "M" keybind

[thorn sequoia]

Ok dope

[patent jasper]

they're a campaign mission now (just chronological order of missions + lore dump)

[thorn sequoia]

Oh awesome

I was hoping for that

Are there new general weapons or combat updates?

[clear plume]

no

just the new class's weapons

[patent jasper]

i mean theres the power falchion which kinda just exists for vet.

[thorn sequoia]

Ok dope

And I guess what should I do to deck out my inventory

Is there a pipeline to godrolling my weapons now?

[patent jasper]

every weapon you roll can have its base stats upgraded

(current stats)%/(max stats)%

you gotta get mastery levels to increase the stats, and also blessings no longer need weapons to be sacrificed to unlock

the blessings are now unlocked by hitting specific stages of mastery then spending them on the blessings

[thorn sequoia]

Mastery

?

[patent jasper]

play with a weapon and gain xp for it

or sacrifice green or higher for xp

[thorn sequoia]

Like dnd weapon mastery

Awesome

My melees will do a billion dps

[patent jasper]

weapons sacrificed xp can go to anything but give the most xp on the type it is
(auto gun will give mega xp on auto gun vs if spent on like las pistol)

[thorn sequoia]

Ok

Any other tips?

[patent jasper]

mass buying and upgrading to green to instant max out mastery is one thing you can do if you got resources to spare

[thorn sequoia]

Ok

[patent jasper]

it'll be like 30 green weapons iirc

[thorn sequoia]

How do I get hella bread hella fast

What’s the grind strat

[clear plume]

play the highest difficulty that you can win in on quickplay

[thorn sequoia]

Bro I’m TRASH

[clear plume]

hence the "that you can win in"

lossing gives you bascially nothing

so play the difficulty you can win in

[thorn sequoia]

Yea I gotchu

[lime idol]

Auric quick play speedrun spam

[thorn sequoia]

Is 80 the farthest a weapon stat can go?

[vocal nacelle]

yes

[thorn sequoia]

So the goal with each weapon is to get each stat to 80

[clear plume]

all but 1

since a weapon can only have a total of 380

so 4 80's and 1 60

the 60 is the dump, the least important stat

[thorn sequoia]

Ok

What do you recommend I dump for heavy sword

[clear plume]

defense

it does not affect damage

you can see what a stat does by inspecting it

[thorn sequoia]

Ok

Check ts out tho

[clear plume]

stopping power is a damage increase

so mobility in this case would be the dump

but if you are low on materials dont worry too much

the difference between 60-80 is not really that high

its just for min-maxing

[thorn sequoia]

Can I raise my stopping power to 80 and lower my mobility to 60?

[clear plume]

no

[thorn sequoia]

Damn

[clear plume]

the number on the right can NOT change

only the one on the left

[thorn sequoia]

Ok

This is sad news

[clear plume]

these

[dawn oracle]

Indeed. You must roll again and hope you get a weapon with better stats overall.

[thorn sequoia]

How’s the potential on this

[clear plume]

good

[dawn oracle]

Big

[clear plume]

mobility or collateral works as the dump

[thorn sequoia]

Ok bet

What’s the relic blade? Is it usable by zealot?

[clear plume]

2 handed greatsword that has a heat mechanic to increase its damage for a bit

[thorn sequoia]

Holy shit

[clear plume]

the best damage weapon on zealot

horde and single target

[thorn sequoia]

Um yes please🤯

Better than eviscerator?

[clear plume]

yes

[thorn sequoia]

Damn

[clear plume]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16W_MhzUGXv9WRVjXjowIyqlktqrJ8U5wxVlgX3X5TU8/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0 in my zealot guide I do have a relic blade setup section

[thorn sequoia]

What’s the point of the eviscerator if the relic is just better

[thorn sequoia]

Damn u rlly bout it

[clear plume]

for fun

some prefer evis since its cool

[thorn sequoia]

Real

[clear plume]

there has been alot of power creep

people play what they enjoy

if everyone ran meta, it would just be all relic blade

[thorn sequoia]

I see

Is it worth it to max out my shotgun then if I find one with better stats, salvage and move the perks?

[clear plume]

for leveling just use what you are given after a mission to save materials

if you have extra materials and want the best weapon then yes, scrap it then get a better one

[thorn sequoia]

Ok

Is stability a good dump?

[clear plume]

if you need weapon mastery exp, sacrifice the same weapon type. IE, you need combatshot gun exp, only sacrifice combatshotguns, it will give 3x the exp then any other weapon

[thorn sequoia]

I see

[clear plume]

stability is weapon sway/handling, so it doesnt affect damage but can do so indirectly with worse handling you might miss a shot

mobility is the safe dump

no damage difference

[thorn sequoia]

Ok

I understand it now

[zealous lynx]

I keep getting backend errors stopping me from playing the game. I have reinstalled twice, verified game files multiple times and restarted my pc multiple times. Does anyone havea fix for this?

[slow plover]

this error usually has to do with the game’s servers, if its not back up after a while, you should try contacting support i think ^^

it could also be because of some internet issues on your end? usually thats what it is for me

[zealous lynx]

I first experienced this issue months ago and gave up. I then tried playing darktide again after playing space marine 2 recently. I am still experiencing the issue.

I haven't been experiencing any internet issues. I have been playing other online games fine.

[slow plover]

oh!! thats weird then :/ i’ve had similar issues before but its usually just my internet causing it. i think the best bet might just be contacting support if you haven’t already, there also might be some fixes for this on the fatshark forums? i know they usually have solutions for any errors or bugs on there

[zealous lynx]

Yeah, I had a look at the fatshark forums and it offers the same suggestions, which don't fix the issue. I will keep trying, just in case it works. If I get no luck I will contact support. Thank you for the help though!

[slow plover]

i hope something works out for u! that is a very weird error to get with no clear explanation or solution 😭!

[potent gull]

What does toughness regen speed on the curious actually do? Just reduce the time until you start to regen it naturally? Or does it speed up how fast you get back toughness from things that give say 20% toughness over 2s?

[lime idol]

Makes the coherency toughness regen effect stronger

[keen flume]

Increases the toughness regen of coherency only

It is not any worth picking it

[potent gull]

Ah okay, thanks

[broken raft]

could be goofy dns issues

[warm axle]

what mod is this

[grave moon]

I see nothing different

[warm axle]

the pattern is revealed

[grave moon]

Oh

[warm axle]

you can only see the tile youre on

[grave moon]

That's neat

[lilac fable]

anyone know what's the best way to farm materials?

[warm axle]

weekly havoc chest and the higher the difficulty the better

[lilac fable]

aight thanks

[vocal nacelle]

depends on which material

[smoky ember]

decode helper

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/252

[vocal nacelle]

quickplay damnation for plasteel
auric for ordo
havoc for diamantine

[polar forum]

more CHEAT mods

[stoic locust]

This is like the most so so cheat mod ever

It makes 1 minigame slightly easier

[polar forum]

some people just want the game played for them!

[stoic locust]

You still press the button

You just know where it is so you aren't sitting there when they're all in one column

[keen flume]

There's still a different mod that does it automatically

[faint perch]

I would rather my team use it than not, if It means I don't have to spend forever protecting them

[keen flume]

That mini game ain't that hard smh

Unless it is phage tree one because people are so deadass in that and never protect

[faint perch]

I kinda like the phage tree one if I'm protecting. I feel helpful because my character is built for taking out groups quickly and the occasional specialist

But I'm trash at the puzzle

[grave moon]

Just wait till the one highlights a white color

You just go over each one till one turns white then choose that one

[faint perch]

Yeah. Took me a few attempts to figure it out. But that one I tend to feel rushed, because it takes longer than the others and like Gears said, I'm probably getting attacked because people don't always protect

[grave moon]

Yeah usually best to pop something that helps toughness

Ogryn I think doesn't flinch when doing objective and picking people or objects up

Always good to have ogryn around to do the tedious stuff

[keen flume]

Taunt Ogryn for phage tree is best defence

[faint perch]

Luckily I have a new ogryn build that is mountains of fun. And no-one has complained. Yet...

[grave moon]

Lol

[keen flume]

You now obligated to share

[faint perch]

I just slap everything and throw rocks

[velvet dagger]

monke

[split obsidian]

there's an auto solver version too

[novel ermine]

I sure do love having my martyrdom triggered from full health (and still going down lmao) because my teammates don’t know how to protect even in auric.

[void forge]

Have you considered not doing the objective while surrounded by enemies?

Pro tip for the phage tree: if you have to stop doing it to protect yourself, the white dots will still be in the same spots the next time you try it

You can do the tree completely solo even on auric difficulty using this trick, without stealth

[faint perch]

If I'm on zealot I tend to let other people do the puzzles while I use chorus. Because teamwork

[broken raft]

I still have never succesfully done the phage tree

The game just refuses to let me do some of the patterns

[vocal nacelle]

But that's the fun part

[normal sable]

does getting insta killed in havoc have different "requirements" than it does in vanilla? i notice im just suddenly dead pretty frequently in havoc even tho im still no downs

[clear plume]

melee damage does a % of corruption as well. So if you take a large amount of damage (overheads) it will corrupt your wound ontop of dealing enough damage to down you, hence insta kill

[normal sable]

ok i understand

does corruption res on curio effect that % of corruption?

to a significant enough degree*

[clear plume]

yes but will rarely change the outcome

since the ones that 1 shot do so much damage

mauler and crusher overhead

[normal sable]

i see

so rotten armor is a really unfortunate modifier rn

[fiery bay]

in the maelstroms, what exactly does enhanced blitz do? More damage or whut

[clear plume]

more grenades

[fiery bay]

like to pickup?

or on person

[clear plume]

the max carry amount

+2 to all nades

ogryn nuke is base 1

with blitz its 3 max

assail base is 10

with blitz is 12

[fiery bay]

ah okay cool, ty

[rain spoke]

Curious on the wording for this one
Is playing havoc with somebody else helping them? Or is there something else I'd need to do for this pennance

[novel ermine]

You just have to join other people’s havocs, not host one yourself.

Never host, you’ll get your havoc penances done way faster that way.

[rain spoke]

I can join through the party finder at Dukane right

[novel ermine]

Yeah

Just a matter of gambling on whether you get accepted, and whether the mission goes smoothly.

[rain spoke]

Gambling that right now

[novel ermine]

Just farm low level havocs until you get the armor.

Then you can begin the painful climb in earnest, if that’s your thing.

[rain spoke]

I 💜 pain and tedium

[keen sonnet]

I got really lucky and ran into people on havoc 1 a couple days in a row, played 1-15s

[novel ermine]

I remember grinding for the armor during the first week of havoc’s release. Got it in like 4 days tops.

[keen sonnet]

Idk how long havoc existed before I played it tbh

[novel ermine]

It’s been what? Maybe a year by now? Idk.

I miss the old system, the new one is just painful bs for everyone.

[rain spoke]

What was the old system?

[novel ermine]

You beat a 40, you can now run a 40 yourself.

Whatever highest rank you beat is your rank, no deranks except for the mission host.

Those were the halcyon days.

[vocal nacelle]

you cant get deranked if you reach 40 now

unless new season

[novel ermine]

Yeah, but the climb just karking sucks.

Old system was literally perfectly fine.

Sure some people obviously got carried, but at least there was less rank / meta build elitism than there is now.

[vocal nacelle]

its fine for player but its wrong, you can straight up get carried to 40

[novel ermine]

This is why I haven’t bothered with this season at all. Did the climb 3 times. Not being fooled again lmao.

[novel ermine]

Who cares lol, the funny golden titles mean nothing anyways.

[vocal nacelle]

this season is harder because rotten armor and stimm

[novel ermine]

Exactly why I haven’t bothered with it. I hate the constant increases in artificial difficulty/ builds being rendered obsolete.

I miss my infinite book spam build. Free 40 crates every week for literally no effort.

[vocal nacelle]

FS care, it circumvent "player supposed to climb the stairs not taking the elevator type"

[novel ermine]

I get what you’re saying. Their decision just sucks lmao.

[vocal nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[novel ermine]

It is what it is, I just feel bad for the havoc newcomers.

[keen sonnet]

I think its insane you can derank all the way to 40

But once you hit 40 you can throw without punishment

[novel ermine]

For sure.

[vocal nacelle]

havoc is kinda nice last season, its hard but fun now its just hard tedious and annoying

[patent jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-nick-fury-decision-stupid-ass-decision-ignore-gif-4747789

[novel ermine]

Not to mention the server disconnect bs getting worse.

[keen sonnet]

Crusher buff? Fine. Rot armor spamming crushers? Less fine.

My finger hurts irl from pressing m1 so much

[vocal nacelle]

"we nerfed the crusher amount because crusher buff but we also make a modifier that spams crusher ignoring the amount limitation"

[novel ermine]

Oh yeah, last season was great barring the occasional bugged funnyhost ritual spawns. This one is just plain old suffering for the sake of it. The current climb is like getting multiple teeth pulled without anesthetic.

[rain spoke]

Just helped with my first havoc
Do I need to leave the party each time for the pennance, or can I stay in the same group

[novel ermine]

No, you can still run with the same group.

[patent jasper]

As long as you don’t start the mission it counts as helping

[novel ermine]

Shouldn’t matter unless the devs broke something new again.

[rain spoke]

Ahh got it got it

[vernal plaza]

While taking reduced damage
Two modifiers in fact

Bonus points with immortal blue stimmed ragers that you can barely see

[vocal nacelle]

you have the small glowing blue eyes

[vernal plaza]

Which is visually harder to identify as you need to see their faces and identify their color which isnt always possible

[broken raft]

All I know is yesterday I fought a pack of 30 crushers without rotten armor

In just a quickplay auric game

[rocky nova]

Can parry from devil claw or dueling sword block crusher or mauler overhead?
Can ogryn block overhead from mauler with normal weapons or shield?

[stoic locust]

You can parry any melee attack, but you need a "perfect blocks can block all attacks" talent to block overheads normally, even with shields (the ogryn shield special can however block overheads, but its the ogryn shield special)

[narrow lantern]

Right I’m playing on Xbox and I have bought the arbitrator dlc and have been playing it for a week or so now and I logged in today and it won’t let me select my character tryed Rest the game and uninstalled it any clue

[void forge]

So you're getting stuck at the character select screen? Or are you getting an error when you open the game

If you have already tried reinstalling the game, I would make a post on the official fatshark forums describing your problem in detail and what steps you have taken

[rose hinge]

does suppression for players ever actually matter? 9/10 if i'm missing my shots its because i suck or because I was stunned

[stoic locust]

Yes

It'll kick your aim everywhere

Some weapons ignore or reduce it, but its most for vet

[rose hinge]

okay so, like, my thing is that stuns by ranged weapons also do that. so its like, it feels like it only procs when youre being shot at and when youre being shot at in the open a lot of those bullets will land and will stun you so suppression immunity doesnt seem to make any difference there

[rose hinge]

vet doesn't get suppressed period

[stoic locust]

They do

[rose hinge]

its a passive

no, they don't

not since the update

[stoic locust]

Oh they baked it in

neat

[rose hinge]

yee

[stoic locust]

Either way suppression is a largely outdated concept

[lime idol]

Doesn’t matter for most ranged weapons except revolver and inf las

And vet is suppression immune yea

[rose hinge]

like it just feels like there are very very few situations in which suppression on players actually becomes a problem in of itself bc when suppression happens its accompanied by stuns, and when you get in cover, suppression stops alongside stuns. like if you told me that ONLY stuns existed and no suppression existed i would be none the wiser

tbh I think it should bounce around your aim even more and maybe "follow" you into cover for a couple milliseconds

[stoic locust]

yeah suppression is outdated

[rose hinge]

and that's not even to mention that all non ads weapons are just immune to it anyways

which means ogryn is fully suppression immune too

[rose hinge]

imo suppresion on enemies can be genuinely helpful but ik many ppl disagree

its just suppression on players is a pointless mechanic which sucks bc of how many talents rely on it and how the game literally introduces it to you like its something you'll need to know

the same game that teaches you suppression in the tutorial is the same one that doesn't explain 80% of what the stats even mean and still calls the same stat by two different names (power vs strength)

[woeful otter]

How do I get rid of white garbage out of my inventory? bought a bunch of plasma guns looking for charge speed as the dump stat.

Which are now surplus to my requirements.

[fervent relic]

Discard them

x by default I think?

yoh get a small amount of credits back

[strange thunder]

yeah you can mark items by rarity and sell en mass as well

favorite items you don't want sold, they don't get selected by that

[pastel forge]

Btw just so you know you dont want to dump charge speed on plasma

It also affects the pre-fire delay from the m1, not just the m2

So charge speed is effectively also a rate of fire stat

[smoky ember]

oh that’s good

[hasty pagoda]

once you've gotten the ideal plasma gun just make sure to favorite it and discard the rest of the grey items through the filter

[half zodiac]

Hey folks. I’m trying to get a better understanding of all the different stats and statuses and stuff that I see in tooltips and on weapons. Like right now, I’m looking at Mastery blessings and I’m like, “Hmm, yes, this one does Brittleness and that one does Impact…”

Like.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[smoky ember]

guide in pins that goes into detail about all blessings and talents

and perks

[half zodiac]

Is there an up-to-date guide or something that explains this stuff as though I was an Ogryn?

Nice, thanks.

[smoky ember]

yah of course

kuli’s guides are a very good source of information

[half zodiac]

When hitting two or more enemies with a melee attack, grants stacks (up to 5); stacks last for 2.5s and can be refreshed during active duration. Per stack, grants rending (see values below) to melee attacks and DoTs while the weapon is wielded boosting damage against armor types Carapace, Flak, Maniac, Unyielding. Only affects a character's own damage. Stacks additively with other rending buffs ('rending') and with rending debuffs that are applied to enemies ('brittleness').

Just to clarify, this is what I’m trying to understand. This is a description of a Blessing, and it references rending.

But it doesn’t actually say what “rending” is.

I just want to understand “Strength = increases melee damage, stagger”
“Impact = ?”
“Brittleness = ?”
“Rending = ?”

Like a glossary or something, because I have no idea what all this stuff does.

[keen flume]

Impact = Increases stagger
Brittleness= Decreases/Debuffs enemy armor
Rending = Increases armor pen/damage on srmor

[half zodiac]

Gotcha.

Thanks.

[keen flume]

Depending how much impacts stacks you have, you are able to stagger enemies more faster too

[lime idol]

Strength = damage + stagger + cleave
Impact = stagger
Cleave = how much mass ur atk can go through & hit
Mass = how “thick” an enemy is
Brittleness = debuff that makes ur atks better vs armored enemies
Rending = damage buff that makes ur atks better vs armored enemies

This is a very basic TLDR of it

[half zodiac]

Gotcha. That’s probably good enough for now.

Oh, Finesse? Mobility?

[strange thunder]

finesse is crit and weakspot dmg in one

[half zodiac]

Like crit chance?

Or crit damage?

[strange thunder]

dmg

[half zodiac]

Gotcha.

[strange thunder]

CC is separate

and there's no weakspot chance ofc

[lime idol]

Finesse = weakspot/crit/crit-weakspot hits’ bonus damage (when shown as a weapon card stat it also affects atk speed)

Mobility (as a weapon card stat) affects weapons’ dodge distance, sprint bonus, ADS/brace move speed

[half zodiac]

Ok, cool. Man, a lot of these are doing heavy lifting for how much they affect.

[lime idol]

Think of finesse like spec into agility/dexterity for atks

[lime idol]

This is also a very general TLDR

[keen flume]

Welcome to Fatshark, the game company that poorly explains stuff to their games

Or lack any of it

[lime idol]

Finesse is actually quite complicated and I’d need to pull up a screenshot to explain what it actually does

[half zodiac]

I should be used to it, right? FromSoft vets represent 🤘

[lime idol]

Or how damage is calculated overall

[half zodiac]

Nah, it’s all good. I needed the “Baby’s First FatShark” version, and you folks delivered.

I just wanted some sense of what the heck stuff was doing when I looked at one weapon or another, or was picking blessings.

[lime idol]

This is finesse

[strange thunder]

some blessings are also poorly explained, despite knowing what all their stats mean

[lime idol]

This is damage calculation example (not fully up to date with current game balance but the calculation method is the same)

[coral relic]

if i got a 40 key i dont want to do, can i do someone else lower one, will that re roll mine?

[clear plume]

If taking about havoc, then no

You need to do a havoc equal too or higher then your current one to change it

[coral relic]

ah thanks

[woeful otter]

Why do trinkets need to specify that the revive speed buff only applies to allies? Can... can I revive monsters that I particularly want the team to fight again?

[velvet dagger]

prolly because people might get confused that it applies to themself?
i.e. they get rezzed faster, but that's not how it works

[keen flume]

I think you need more than just reaching your hand to revive monstrosities

[patent jasper]

make sure you don’t pull a muscle lifting those things

[languid jewel]

Fatshark really out here forcing me to do maths

Smh

[faint perch]

Knowledge is power

And defence, cleave, finesse...

[inland lichen]

How does the dueling sword parry compare to the devil's claw parry?

[dark glacier]

i haven't played in a while and even though none of my settings changed my framerate is absolutely fucked now. any idea what could cause this?

[weak sundial]

upscalig update destroyed performance for me.
just turn everything to low (thats what iI did)
update video drivers also

[dark glacier]

yeah there were in fact some settings that reset 😛 i missed them when i did a first panicked check mid-game 😄

[proven robin]

Is damage or mobility the better dump stat for the flamer?

[velvet dagger]

I dumped damage.

What is it, like 3 extra damage?

[stoic locust]

2

[wide schooner]

Haven't played for a bit just getting back on anybody know why my lvl 30 zealot can only play on malice difficulty?

[vocal nacelle]

campaign system rework,all class need to play certain amount of times on previous diff to unlock next difficuty

[velvet dagger]

also, the new campaign reboot thing

if you picked to play the campaign, you're stuck for like 5 or 6 missions with baby wheels
can't even access the Tech Priest, shop, or Mortis trials

[polar forum]

it's so ass

[velvet dagger]

frfr

[faint perch]

Yeah. I'm sure I'm not the only one who picked the wrong option and ended up deleting and remaking a character to avoid doing the campaign again

[keen flume]

Idk if it just me but have they also removed the Path of Truth story from the game?

I made new ogryn to recreate my main one for cutscenes and I have not seen any of the scenes at around level 8

[obtuse jungle]

Some are still in the game but others were removed.

[keen flume]

[obtuse jungle]

Rannick telling you that there is a traitor in our ranks was removed.

for instance

[keen flume]

Bruh

[vocal nacelle]

you can just go to barber and change the option there

[obtuse jungle]

But Morrow telling you that Rannick is still hunting for the traitor onboard is still in the game. SO it kinda comes out of nowhere for new players.

[keen flume]

I get that it was a boring and not well written story but it felt it match for rejects perspective

I want my morrow scene just introducing and come to say "Is this the best kind of no hopers we can get these days "

[obtuse jungle]

Also you no longer have the cutscene with Hadron telling you that you are late so you shall be executed but her cutscene when you first interact with the Shrine still mentions how they have little time before our execution. But this one can be recontextualised a bit since Morrow mission board cutscene says that since we found the mission board he can't execute us yet.

[obtuse jungle]

It still exists

[keen flume]

Weird i did not have it

Unless is that I skipped prologue

[obtuse jungle]

Did you skip the prologue?

The prologue has it

[keen flume]

I thought prologue was only the prison scene

[obtuse jungle]

No

It's more

[keen flume]

Cant remember been so long and was only one time I played prologue

[obtuse jungle]

Maybe you would want to delete and make your ogryn again but this time with the prologue? Ogryn can level up very quickly especially if you are a competent player

And also experience perks on curios

[velvet dagger]

do your masteries carry over if you delete and remake? leveling weapons again does not sound fun tbh

[keen flume]

Weapon mastery is shared through entire account

[warped basin]

can I see logs, somewhere, of who I played with in which game recently?
want to confirm something about one player

[haughty lance]

hey if you just want me to quit playing this game, just say so.
THIS is just rude

[warped basin]

nevermind, simply blocking that player works, I won't be matched with them again and that's all I care about

[vocal nacelle]

you forgot stimm

[haughty lance]

don't givem 'em ideas!

[half zodiac]

Hey folks. I just finished the third Campaign mission last night and was notified after that I could move the difficulty up from Uprising to… whatever is next. Malice?

Should I go for it, or is there some kind of rule-of-thumb on level or item level or some other benchmark to aim for before increasing difficulty?

[fervent relic]

Go for the max difficulty as soon as you unlock it, to get a feel for it. You can change down later

[vocal nacelle]

Rule of thumb is know how to dodge/block

[faint perch]

Depends on the build. I'm doing well in Auric, only dodge a little and never block
(Still really useful skills to have though)

Parrying is great too, if your weapon can do that

And try to stay in coherency if you can

[haughty lance]

yeah go higher as soon as you can.
the lower difficulties teach you all the wrong things.

[faint hill]

block when theres multiple ragers and dodge towards help. you used to be able to run through them but not now.

[lost ferry]

Havoc sucks woop woop

[warped basin]

keep slamming your head against the highest difficulty you have available so you can eventually get carried to the next one and I can have material to constantly complain about soft griefers in my matches to feel good about myself

[faint perch]

Can they do chip damage?
I just parry them

[faint hill]

i think so, i had 4 armoured ones and i was surrounded by poxers and i got out without losing health even though i was boxed in

[smoky ember]

just do whatever you feel comfortable with

if you’re comfortable with uprising, then go to malice, repeat until ur at auric !

[bleak gyro]

does anyone know why sometimes I take corruption damage from dogs and sometimes I dont? It feels like its absolutely random at times

[clear plume]

check your toughness when you get pounced

iirc if you have full tough then it wont until it breaks your tough, but if you dont have full tough it will apply corruption

[bleak gyro]

I did, it still feels random as fuck

Sometimes da dog can be the only unit around and I'll get corrupted even at 100% toughness

[clear plume]

Interesting

could be a new bug

[bleak gyro]

This goes on for months tho

[clear plume]

and there has been bugs since launch

its fatshark

thats what they do

[bleak gyro]

Its just that right now me and my friend got really curious what the fuck is going on xD

yep i guess fatshark moment

[storm glen]

Does darktide not have a rejoin function on crash? Ive just crashed, instantly loaded back in and never gave me the option to rejoin. So damn annoying.

[clear plume]

if it doesnt give you the option then the match is unjoinable, either its full now or they lost

[storm glen]

Does the game not have a unjoinable period after a player disconnects? This must mean a guy literally replaced me in like the 1min or less that i was gone.

[clear plume]

or they lost

yes

ah

[storm glen]

Sick.

[vocal nacelle]

"Mission Aborted"

[clear plume]

iirc there is a 2 min space saved for someone who crashes in a lobby

[vocal nacelle]

you can rejoin even if you restart your PC as long as your teammate still alive or the mission still exist

[clear plume]

so no one can take your spot until after that

[storm glen]

So the only option is that we all crashed maybe? We were in no position to lose

[clear plume]

could be

knowing darktide

[languid jewel]

I think its just a server crash

Happened to me yesterday too and it was 3 friends and a rando

And game just aborted i doubt we all crashed.

[candid moss]

Hi, im fairly new to DT. ive seen some people using the term dumping when it comes to weapons, is dumping something I can do with weapons or does dumping refer to just getting a certain random roll on the weapons stats.

[pastel forge]

random roll

[candid moss]

Thanks

[pastel forge]

"dump stat" refers to the stat that is generally agreed upon to be the most optimal to have at 60%

since it lets you have 80% for the other 4

[candid moss]

So I should look a bit more on the weapons I get even if I already have it at orange quality and 500 power.

[pastel forge]

yes

and generally you should avoid upgrading a weapon to orange quality and 500 power if it doesnt have the correct stats

since you'll end up eventually replacing it with one that has the correct stats so you just wasted a bunch of materials on it

[candid moss]

Gotcha, thanks.

[half zodiac]

Follow-up on my difficulty level question:

Moved up to Malice for Campaign mission IV.

Whole team got wrecked like… really early.

One of them was a level 30 Psyker.

He didn’t say anything, but my psykic powers told me he was seething.

[vocal nacelle]

its is time for Q&A, you died from what

[craggy minnow]

psyker build that cant solo malice
Couldnt be me

[half zodiac]

My first time on this map, so I’m not exactly going to be able to give the best after-action report, but… it was Campaign mission IV. We got to a big open platform area? Kind of reminded me of an oil rig. There was a close elevator.

[warped basin]

in a game that fills you bots if you try to play a match alone, thinking about "being able to solo" any difficulty is wild

[half zodiac]

A horde came in. I was trying to stay with the group but every one kind of scattered. A flamer dropped down next to me and I was too slow to take him out so I had to dart around the elevator to get away from the fire. I was fighting a swarm of guys and then a hound showed up. I managed to get the hound, but I just got overwhelmed.

[smoky ember]

honestly impressive

[warped basin]

do not rely on your randoms, just try to stay with them whenever possible, people severely underestimate coherency and try to do everything alone (I see this in both lower diff and mid-diff if a player with havoc rank is on my team)
sounds like a positioning issue that got you killed, maybe some audio cue for specials you didn't hear, or didn't use your abilities/consumables
anyway, that's just one game = irrelevant, once you get consistent wipes you can start looking at what you're doing wrong

[half zodiac]

Yea, appreciate it. I was just laughing a bit. When the match started I was like, oh man, level 30 is slumming it in Malice, this should be pretty good aaaaaand we’re all dead.

It was also my first match with the dueling sword/revolver, and they both seem really good but we’re a little unfamiliar.

[warped basin]

yea I always farm masteries on one diff lower than my current usual (damnation) and some games you just get unfortunate spawns or wipe in an area that's common to wipe on stupid stuff like plague ogryns yeeting you off map edges

I'd also recommend getting a mod that lets you see people's actual level of that character (beyond 30) because you don't know if that psyker was 30 or 300

[broken raft]

I wonder if they fixed my mastery farm setup

Called fastmode twins skip

[velvet dagger]

been watching a bunch of YT DT players

I guess the thing that seperates the good from the bad is positioning

like, mechancally people like Reginald aren't hitting every dodge, every block, but they know how to run a circuit and when to pull back so they can deal with a horde piecemeal, like kiting the Crushers first around a corner so they can avoid being shot by the gunners behind them

and they do this as a team, because 1 or 2 rejects running up while the rest pull back means the horde bunches up so they all cross the corner instead piecemeal