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ocean kernel
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I mean I guess that's one way of looking at it

smoky ember
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light spam for crushers is specifically referring to uncanny strike with fleshtearer/lacerate

split vortex
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have a weird question. I come from pvp games where meta is basically required. this is pve but has some difficulty. i was wondering if meta is required at higher stages and difficulties of the game?

vocal nacelle
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You can run weird build depending how well your in game knowledge (dodging, kiting, map mastery, priority kill)

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If you play high rank havoc mode you gonna need "proper" Build because the game will throw you every BS situation KEKW_ogryn

split vortex
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so basically, if the build has an intended purpose and you arent bad, you're good to go

polar forum
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pretty much

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though running meta shit will obviously make life way easier

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in every mode

vocal nacelle
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Not knowing toughness how your class gain toughness is throwing, i seen it a lot

opaque basalt
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I did my first successful auric maelstrom expecting my Havoc assignment level to jump to 16ish but it's still at level 1. Any ideas what's happened?

rigid wasp
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Are the havoc rewards randomized guys?

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Rescource wise ? Or is it dependant on how many levels in havoc you climb

keen flume
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Depends how much you can reach clearance level per week

edgy onyx
smoky marsh
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hello i do not find party for Havoc for literally a week, since my lvl of havoc is 3 coz i left the game temporally when it came out

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any idea on how to gwt party? i already tried to set the party filters to none so more ppl see it

fickle ether
cosmic sky
smoky marsh
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the problem is i dont see any party in any day, by doing an auric maelstrom u mean in the mission terminal? o has it to be with someone in the havoc one? @cosmic sky

cosmic sky
smoky marsh
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i didnt know that raised havoc lvls

cosmic sky
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I'm unsure if it's retroactive if you've allready done havocs but I got put to assignment rank 16 initially at 30 cause I had allready done auric maelstrom

smoky marsh
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i see

cosmic sky
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You also gotta make sure you have your party finder filtered for havocs

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Around 20-40 is where most people use the party finder

smoky marsh
cosmic sky
edgy onyx
# smoky marsh i didnt know that raised havoc lvls

I don't mind helping you rise through the clearance levels sometime.
I found it easier that way as the difficulty is cumulative, 20 is kinda where it really ramps up, I think I went up to 14ish before jumping into other parties to get a 2-4 level boost up, nothing too drastic of a leap.

torn cargo
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How effective are these when selected? As an Axe Arbitrator player, any additional melee damage is important for me, but I'm unsure if this node would be that effective for me or not.

craggy minnow
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Depends if it changes breakpoints

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Go into meat grinder and check

keen oracle
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10% passive is solid honestly, especially with how easy it can be to access

craggy minnow
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Yeah its probably useful

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When cleaving even if you don't need it for first targets

torn cargo
keen oracle
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Will depend on your weapon and build

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10% on two swings is better than 15% on only the second and equal on third

craggy minnow
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I stg people don't want to spend 1 second in the lab checking numbers

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There's also the damage calculator which honestly is more effort in most cases

torn cargo
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Thanks for the replies. I'll go with %10 melee for now.

craggy minnow
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Yeah a bit of an overreaction on my part

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The real sinners are the people who ask about weapon perks
Put trash on it and see what you can save a hit on with a 25% boost

shy stone
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I usually theorycraft when I'm away from my computer, because otherwise I would be busy purging with my chain axe

craggy minnow
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Its probably going to be flak maniac or flak carapace 95% of the time anyway

hexed palm
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Is anyone who's playing darktide getting curious after mission levels, I'm not getting much. Only weapons, I got curious perks up high with 20+ not receiving any

shadow skiff
limber thicket
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it's not 20% flat chance to get a curio, it's a multiplier to a very low number afaik

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just gamble at melk if you need them fast

hexed palm
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Melk?

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Oh right that npc

final drift
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I seen someone say they spawned in enemies to the meatgrinder. How do I do that? Can I spawn bosses to test?

final drift
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Oh so it's not built in. Kinda lame

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Thanks!!

smoky ember
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and of course

craggy minnow
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The vanilla meat grinder is kind of lacking

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Like why doesnt it have a dense pack? Or a mixed pack?

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You can lab out st breakpoints just fine but good luck testing cleave that's any good

limber thicket
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you haven't levelled up your relationship status with Sefoni enough

craggy minnow
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Pog

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Giving her a fish every day until her hearts meter maxes out and they add 20 closely packed poxers to meat grinder

velvet fulcrum
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I think she likes eating amethysts

main crest
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so if i keep buying white items from the armory i can check the stats to see how far I can empower it based on percentage, and i just have to keep buying whites until it shows if i can upgrade all stats on said weapon to 80% for each category?

little coyote
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each category cannot be 80%, the best is 80/80/80/80/60 or a mix of that

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every weapon maxes out at the same amount of combined percentage

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(discounting rounding errors by the UI)

main crest
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ohhhh okay that makes sense i looked at this one build wrong and assumed they were all at 80, but yeah one is 60 so ill just look for the weapon that is 60 based on the build im looking at

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thanks

little coyote
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No problem

raw yacht
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Guys i am curious, which classes (besides the arbiter with his op sniper shotgun) can run a shotgun and actually perform decently in auric+ ?
Vet with wep specialist? Which shotguns are not total dogshit?

red ginkgo
keen oracle
little coyote
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I remember really liking the double barrel as a psyker on auric+ when it came out

keen oracle
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Funny reload speed build goes hard on DB psyker KEKW_ogryn

gusty whale
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i don't remember liking any shotguns

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but the one with the slug special is alright

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arbites "sniper" variant is just a shitty revolver

torn cargo
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Constantly crashing after the update, without the mods either. Any known reason?

void forge
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Could be this

warped basin
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can you guess whose first time in Damnation it was?
(good luck, we all started somewhere)

merry dome
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is anyone feeling a performance decrease on high end machines after todays patch

void forge
ornate stag
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does the No Rebreather Required penance (dont trigger 3 grenades in orthus) count party members?

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i seemingly didn't trigger any grenades but didn't get the penance

fickle ether
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Yes

keen obsidian
shadow skiff
violet fox
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Any tips on improving and learning to get better? Like what missions am should do?
I can’t do anything higher than the lowest difficulty

vocal nacelle
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learn the ingame mechanic

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dodge, sprint slide, dodge slide, block, shove

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if you cant do slide atleast learn how to dodge

warped basin
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I don't even mind those numbers (on missions that aren't twins) unless it snowballs and causes a wipe, like I said we all started somewhere

languid jewel
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Maybe watch a melee tutorial or something.

vocal nacelle
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KEKW_ogryn forgot to tell darktide is not your usual left 4 dead 2 where you can shoot everything

void forge
celest halo
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Is there a way to access the Karnak Twins after you have already finished the Campaign on said operative ?

wheat night
vernal frigate
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Since Burst Limiter Override comes with a 15% chance to save ammo, does that mean I only need 9 stacks of Back Off to guarantee a free shot? Or do the chances stack multiplicatively?

keen flume
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You can have like only 5 stacks and you still the chance to shoot three in a row if you blessed KEKW_ogryn

shrewd plank
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Howdy friends, anyone know of where to report bugs?

shrewd plank
vocal nacelle
dusty aurora
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Hi-Int is baked into maelstrom right ?

vocal nacelle
icy flare
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Just came back to the game after a long break. If I'm playing veteran is the boltgun still a good choice?

icy flare
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Cool, thanks! Was between that and a plasma gun, but I don't have one yet lol

vocal nacelle
icy flare
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So this new weapon mastery thing, they're not passive. They're just for crafting on your weapons?

keen oracle
worthy dew
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do auric difficulty enemies have more hp than in damnation now? I just got back after like 5 months break

worthy dew
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so just like before, this is good to know

keen veldt
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Can you farm havoc assists off one person? Or does it have to be exactly 50 different people

red ginkgo
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As long as it's not your assignment, you're goochy

hexed palm
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I guess, the connection issue needs to be fixed

main lily
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my game is crashing in the new event pretty frequently (at least once per match). Is anyone else experiencing this?

vocal nacelle
main lily
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< round crashed after an ally accidentally killed me so it looks like I rage quit. (It's not giving me the option to reconnect again)

main lily
vocal nacelle
main lily
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I played through some normal rounds and it didn't crash. Happened every game of the event so far. Even if it isn't only in the event its' happening more frequently in the event for me

main lily
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yup

vocal nacelle
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i heard arbites crashed more frequently

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because they have lot of buffs

main lily
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dang it ><

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I'm nearly done my arbites penances too

vocal nacelle
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if you are on pc , can use mods to fix it

main lily
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oh? which mods would help?

vocal nacelle
hexed palm
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I guess they need a bit of fixing

keen veldt
obsidian belfry
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So what's the point at which the combat knife becomes good? I have one at orange rarity with good blessings and such, but it seems like a way less upgraded assault chainsword just does way better with way less effort. What am I doing wrong? Does it just need a bunch of variables to align in its favor or something?

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I guess it pulls decent numbers when I do a backstab power attack with the buffs up, but even then, I'm not coming anywhere near two shotting a plague ogryn like I see high level players doing?

limber thicket
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you should ask in the relevant class chat, because it highly depends on who is using the knife

but you need to hit heads with it and crit

zealous dome
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Knife is single target oriented

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Chainsword is a horde clearing oriented weapon

lime thicket
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Anyone been having lots of missing sound/audio issues in game?

obsidian belfry
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Headshots might be the issue though. I think my crit chance is pretty good

broken raft
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The knife depends on the mark

main lily
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but the game in general has been buggy for me today

lime thicket
smoky ember
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or the 2 handed eviscerator

obsidian belfry
smoky ember
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knife will outdamage chainsword in bosskill in most situations

modest marten
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this SUCKS. how am i supposed to complete this?

violet finch
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combat knife or duelling sword are pretty good

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its just very good practice for dodging and self sustain

limber thicket
modest marten
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that will be 60 more matches

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probably the single most poorly though out penance

violet finch
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not really

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its decent to learn how to backstab

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which is one of the best abilities in havoc

modest marten
violet finch
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😭

stoic locust
violet finch
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imo ds and cb both work better cuz they more geared towards backstabbing

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anything with strikedown really

modest marten
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whats dc and whats cb

violet finch
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more meta

modest marten
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oh

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lol

modest marten
# violet finch ^

yeah i know the meta i wasnt just able to assign thoose abbreviations do to massive smooth brain

violet finch
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kooked

stoic locust
violet finch
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but they guarantee kills easier plus they scale with the backstabs really well compared to caxe and taxe and hs

modest marten
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for backstab it doesnt matter if its a heavy or light attack right? does it matter if the target kets killed via weakspot or not?

violet finch
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its just the location you are in regards to the enemy

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its like roughly 120 degrees of behind them counts as backstab

modest marten
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biggest issue i have are teammates that are allways running after me

violet finch
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lol

modest marten
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fr its like ive bathed in superglue

violet finch
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the two weapons ive mentioned also help

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cuz theyre the fastest weapons zealot has access to

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bar taxe

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i think

modest marten
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im using a max mob combat blade

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and its not realling working in terms of spee

violet finch
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how

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thats crazy 💀

modest marten
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arbitrators dogs count torward coherency limit for loner

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i believe which is very stupid

craggy minnow
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only if they're running the one of the pack talent or always?

modest marten
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yeah

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only if theyre running the talent

blissful acorn
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does anyone know where to check the "Light the Fuse!" Progress?

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i cant find it anywhere

stoic locust
blissful acorn
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ohhh

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thanks!

tropic quest
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Quick question does anybody know if the orthus offensive hard mode is still doable?

I was trying earlier today and it didn't seem to be working

keen oracle
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So you can either hope quickplay gives you the mission or restart the campaign

tropic quest
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Perhaps I'm messing something up but it seems to fail on the second last bell each time somehow

keen oracle
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I think there might be something to complete before you can do the bell puzzle but I'm not familiar with it

gusty whale
modest marten
fierce sandal
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why does "always dodge" prevent me from jumping (separate keybind) unless i'm sprinting....i just want to jump when i press jump, and dodge when i press dodge. Is this not possible lol

modest marten
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its that you still dodge despite pressing W

fierce sandal
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but then i can't jump

modest marten
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but no jumping allowed then

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yeah its annoying but it is what it is

fierce sandal
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okay - that's just how it is then?

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gotcha

modest marten
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yeah. no way around

keen oracle
fierce sandal
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which is just the way the cookie crumbles i guess

keen oracle
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It's not something I've noticed 🤔

warped basin
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anything else I can do to report a player for trying to bypass the language filter besides doing it in game through Social?

raw yacht
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Did they ship a new veteran nerf? I got instakilled twice by poxbursters as veteran with no wounds and full hp

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event map

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literally no downed state

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straight dead

stoic locust
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How many hit you

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If you take enough corruption to cross into your second wound you will die instantly

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And no, no veteran nerfs

raw yacht
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3 max

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this never happened on my zealot or ogryn

stoic locust
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That would be enough corruption damage

raw yacht
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and i got hit by more

stoic locust
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They just hit you exactly right for all 3 to hit you

raw yacht
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feels kidna BS

stoic locust
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It kind of is

keen flume
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Burster waves go crazy be able to one tap you

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Not sure what's the corruption resistance for each human classes but Ogryn is the most durable

raw yacht
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It makes sense now that you explained it but it still is kind of stupid

keen flume
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And yeah also two wounds KEKW_ogryn

raw yacht
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downed state is there for a reason

keen flume
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Only if your first wound is not fully corrupted

zealous dome
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Poxbursters deal 100 damage

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It takes 2 to kill pretty much all classes except Ogryn

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Vet and Psyker have 150 base hp

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Zealot and Arby's have base 200

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Ogryn has base 300

limber thicket
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3 bursters with base vet hp should put enough corruption to instakill, makes sense

smoky ember
gusty whale
modest marten
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pure agony

vital crown
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hello, is this a good place to ask for help with a penance?

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I need someone to go with me into mortis trials and let me solo a monstrosity

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I would of course help you in return with any penance you need

modest marten
modest marten
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can curios get +2 wounds?

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or is it just +1?

clear plume
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max wound curio is +1

modest marten
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sad. still thx for the headsup

long citrus
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Played since release, took a long hiatus.

Heard difficulty got some adjustment. Back then Heresy > Damnation difficulty had a relative jump.

Is that still the same case?

modest marten
clear plume
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nothing

clear plume
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auric is now a seperate difficulty

long citrus
# clear plume malice to heresy probably biggest jump

So as someone who finds high intensity shocktroop Heresy exhilerating, and have to sweat a bit.

I should sorta be okay to finally step up to Damnation?
Will public matchmake be generally okay? Or should I just bite the bullet and start making friends.

Also. How is Auric different than non-Auric?

Sorry for the hailstorm of questions, I've been wanting to go further than Heresy for a long time now, but it've always been extremely intimidating for me.

clear plume
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1: Try out the difficulty, no harm done if its too much 2: Public skill level has declined a bit recently (since crafting update about a year ago) up to you if you pub or not, I find it funny. 3: Auric now is coded as intensity 6 which is the highest base game difficulty yet

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spacing

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F

long citrus
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Thank you very much for your time 🤍 I shall give it a go. ||eventually||

clear plume
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go for it

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no harm in testing higher difficulty

shrewd magnet
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where is the best place to farm diamantine?

gusty whale
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weekly havoc rewards

shrewd magnet
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and missionwise?

gusty whale
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used to be damnation difficulty, might be auric now

shadow skiff
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Most randoms won't really loot anymore.

vocal nacelle
vocal nacelle
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2K diamantine weekly

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havoc rank = ordo, diamantine , plasteel

  • 16 = 12000, 2000, 5000
  • 18 = 15400, 2270, 6100
  • 20 = 17300, 2650, 7100
  • 22 = 19800, 3140, 8200
  • 30 = 41000, 7050, 15200
  • 35 = 73000, 12600, 22900
  • 40 = 137400, 23200, 35100
shrewd magnet
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thanks for the info guys

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if i start a new class, do i keep my rss

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or are they independent?

vocal nacelle
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weapon per class

shrewd magnet
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awesome, thanks

split star
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Is Blaze Away bugged? I was doing some testing in the Grinder and noticed it wasn't proccing on the buff bar. Usually a weapon blessing that's proccing pops up its icon in the bar yeah? Or are some blessings activated but not placed on the bar?

Edit: NVM, I'm dumb the icon was proccing it just looked a little different from the Blessing Icon. Derp

opaque dawn
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anyone had issue switching to grenade? i have like plenty of grenades but game wont let me use grenades

limber thicket
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I remember watching a stream (Ainz maybe?) and he couldn't switch to grenades on zealot

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maybe it was reginald or unc

opaque dawn
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yeah it was annoying, tried back in psykhanium, remapped key, still no go. had to restart the game

fickle ether
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Going down can also fix it iirc

keen obsidian
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What exactly is intensity 6?

clear plume
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Bascially how agro the dirctor will be

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unsure how it looks in code

keen obsidian
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Ah does it just allow for more specialist?

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Is it why tox bombers appear in pairs of 4? wiseassdog

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Why do they do that

tender sand
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So, help me here a bit. What does affect when you can or can't be interrupted during various actions that take time to complete? I know that when you revive/rescue and assist somebody, you are considered blocking - so regular hits from chaff won't interrupt it until I have stamina left, right?
What about solving various puzzles? It seems like any hit interrupts those, even if I have stamina. What if I'm shot at? Will it interrupt puzzles too?
And also I heard something about ogryn being special in that they "cannot be interrupted" - what does it mean? Does it cover all those interactions above, or only some of them?

lone adder
tender sand
lone adder
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Different system there

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I should say, similar but not quite the same

tender sand
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sorry, I meant stamina..

lone adder
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Yeah, similarly but instead of toughness its stamina

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I think when youre getting shot at, it'll go to your toughness instead of stamina

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Ogryns ignore any interruptions from stamina or toughness loss in these situations

tender sand
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okay, gotcha

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thank you

lone adder
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No problem

rigid wasp
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On psyker what blessings n perks should i slap on my bolt pistol?

tender sand
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I tried surgical + deadly accurate, but somehow it doesn't work that well, despite weapon seems to be similar to revolver where Surgical is my go-to bless

gusty whale
tender sand
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I get it, it's just a filler as I didn't find anything else that would work better than it. I tried a few promising combinations, and this combo allowed the best dps with least possible effort. That's kinda what I need from it on my psyker, to kill an occasional armored elite by a rapid burst of shots, or some specialist

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i.e. it's not a main weapon, just a sidearm

stark ibex
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Quick question: for HAVOC gameplay, is it better to have health curios at higher levels? Given that it’s a flat reduction rather than a multiplicative reduction of toughness?

vocal nacelle
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2 toughness 1 health is still good

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People usually stack golden toughness

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And all havoc enemies deal more damage + corruption hit

limber thicket
modest marten
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I regualry have lags ingame from time to time. its like a single lag with the duration of half a second every 2 or3 minutes and after like 4 or 5 lags my game disconnects from the server.
anybody an idea what could cause this?

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it happens in like 15% of all matches

fierce sandal
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What dictates whether a mutant will straight up toss you or give a little smacky smack first? Or is it just random?

vocal nacelle
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If mutant don't have space to smash you (in a corner/ near wall) he will throw to other direction

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KEKW_ogryn be careful sometimes mutant got bugged/ pissed and throw you into the void /inside wall

main lily
modest marten
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no such issues on other games

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i do have it for some time now and on my windows installation i tried to reinstall the game without any luck

shadow skiff
modest marten
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first thing i checked

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but that doesnt mean that there are no momentarily interrupts

shadow skiff
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The servers been a little on the spicy end recently as well.

modest marten
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i will check my fritzbox if there are any DSL interrupts

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no events thus far

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It wouldve suprised me if there was soemthing since i have no issues in any other game thats heavily multiplayer sided

shadow skiff
modest marten
pulsar sphinx
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Where's the best way to get into Havoc missions

green iron
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usually play pub but i want to do just a flesh wound, could i get some help (haven't played in a while so i may be a tad rusty)

red ginkgo
green iron
red ginkgo
green iron
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yep give me a seck

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3802526613

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frosty walrus
tawny mirage
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Do bots count for achievements for rescuing/reviving?

wind cosmos
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So

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I am at 3/5 for the don't die in auric maelstrom, anyone down to help me out there

cloud adder
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About Havoc
In the group finder there are only groups 20+, so.. how difficult are they, how does the difficulty scales, compared to Auric
When should I be able to join Havocs 20+ (Current assignment is 17 and dont want to join some others havoc and be hinder rather than help)

limber thicket
cloud adder
keen flume
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You going for a treat when playing high havoc KEKW_ogryn

cedar dagger
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The want to play h40 is strong, the fact that I can't leave without fucking people over is annoying. Sitgryn

tender sand
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Is there a mod(s) that:

  1. Displays clear enough (customizable) visual cue when certain thresholds of toughness are reached (50%, 0% etc). Like some big enough red blink around the center of the screen or something
  2. Show clear enough visual cue when you are hit (or shot) from behind. Like may be a BIG down arrow under your crosshair or something
velvet quiver
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not when you get hit but rather when you're 0.2sec away from being hit...but if you're going specifically for visual queues, there's a mod called Less Annoying Visuals or something like that. It allows you to tinker with visuals like flash, flame, blur etc.

velvet quiver
velvet quiver
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35 to 40 is the same only worse xD

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so far I've dragged my guts only across the 36 mark. Hoping to hit 40

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also the AI director has access to 2 conditions called Tension and Terror. They work in stealth on ALL other mods and maps except after Havoc 30. The second you hit 30, those "limiters" on how fcked is fcked are disabled and the AI director can not and will not give a flying pox burster if 2 mates are down, he will spawn the population of new zealond on your ass

cloud adder
tender sand
# velvet quiver not when you get hit but rather when you're 0.2sec away from being hit...but if...

Honestly, I'm considering MORE annoying visuals at this point. The default ones just won't work for me, 40% of my downs on psyker will be because a couple chaffers were hitting me from the back, and I wasn't aware of it until losing half hp. And another 40% are because deafult Peril threshold for the visual cues is nonsensical when using Assail, when you see clear enough warning you are about to blow, it's already too late, I would like full-screen visual cue to appear when I'm already at 80% peril

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But I'll check those, thanks

cloud adder
keen flume
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DisableScreenEffects then?

cedar dagger
# velvet quiver why would you want to leave? <:dabron:1099703391711678607>

I'm the sole caregiver for my wife, having a system in place that punishes the team for someone leaving. (IE no backfill, loss of attempts, demotion, in ability to join another game, loss of resources for weekly completion.) Really disincentivises someone from playing the hardest content despite the want to participate.

If h40 was an unlockable quickplay on the normal map that allowed me to play h40 with out the blowback if I had to leave suddenly I'd play it all day.

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Sadly the sweaty nature of top tier players bred a system that makes playing havoc content a fucking headache.

velvet quiver
# cloud adder the AI director, how is that to understand in this game, is it like the usuall l...

exactly, the Terror modifier dictates how often and when you're going to be in the "ouh sh*t!" moment, you know, horde barreling towards you with 12 crushers, 10 ragers and you see 2 plague orgyns and a hel puppy come out from the other room. And the Tension modifier is I think the intensity of the events that happen? I'm not a 100% sure, if you want I'll go find it. Yeah, if for example, there's 3 people trapped in nets, and the Terror goes down, you just clean up what's currently trying to make you its lunch and then there's silence for a while. Without it, on top of those that you just killed while trying to res your mate the captains spawn with 10 bursters in a conga line behind them. That type of thing. And since the director can see you at all time anywhere it knows exactly what all your vitals show and where you are situated compared to other mates (mind you it doesn't take the dot that is the player, it takes the Coherency radius)

velvet quiver
velvet quiver
# cloud adder then I will first play more Auric malström to "warmp up" and "train" for havoc (...

Now THAT's the right mentality bro. Just spam the difficulty you feel comfy with and take it upwards when you feel you're ready. Like, when you start doing the anime protagonist blade dance Omae Wa Mu Shindeiru plays then try the next difficulty. My current go-to is Aurics, preferrably Maelstrom. If I want to challenge myself I go to Havocs and try to push for Clearance level. But all in due time, trust the process and the Emperor and might beyond your imagining shall be bestowed upon you! MelkBucks Diamantine Dockets Plasteel Guarded

velvet quiver
velvet quiver
# cedar dagger I'm the sole caregiver for my wife, having a system in place that punishes the t...

it does have its minuses and like mostly everything else they'll fine tune it over time, but currently, even if you're the Emperor himself, there's STILL the random % bullsh*t chance of something like that happening. 😄 But I just see it as another challenge in the run (that's why I have the Reloader and Reconnect me and bypass Log In screen mods so that once that happens I can get back in ASAP.) To quote Courage the Cowardly Dog: "Ahh...the things I do for love..." but replace "love" with Havoc

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🤣

cloud adder
cloud adder
velvet quiver
velvet quiver
cloud adder
velvet quiver
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🤣 someone random in voicecomm once joked "hey imagine if the AI is just bored and that's why it's f*cking with us" and you see him pushing a pencil over a desk, super tuned out... "Huhhhh, guess I'll go make their lives hel again...might as well, since there isn't anything else to do in this box..."

keen flume
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Just like in L4D2 it also uses AI director to make spawns enemies and specials with how the game is perfoming by the players too

tender sand
# velvet quiver you want a TURBO useful life hack? Go into your Settings, under Interface, there...

You missed my point, I don't have the issue with its intensity, my problem is I stop seeing all the default, mild visual cues of high Peril during an intense fight. And the only thing my vision registers when like that is the final stage (when you see the "tentacles" growing at the edges of your screen).
But when using Assail, it's often already too late - either I've already pressed the mouse button one more time, or about to do it and can't stop that movement, that's how I blow up 95% of the time. I want those intense visual cues to appear already at 80% peril

velvet quiver
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and Disable Screen Effects

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and tune it out however feels best

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personally I just lowered the Perill effects that are in the default menu and haven't bothered with any other effects

rigid wasp
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Why when i get a server error Darktide crashes and i am stuck in black screen for 5 mins, nothing works,on ps5 6Rage

edgy onyx
# cloud adder About Havoc In the group finder there are only groups 20+, so.. how difficult ar...

Speaking from my own recent experience only starting Havoc a couple of weeks ago, I tried to avoid any clearance level that was more than 2-3 levels above what I'd already done, for example I did a lvl25 when I was clearance 22, I tried to do as many sequencial ones of my own assignments first to get used to it, and gradually learn the extra modifiers instead of immediately jumping in to 20+.
20 should be doable if you're up to 17 and feel confident, but I also found that the failure rate went up in the 20+ range.

green rover
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i haven't played in a while, are duelling swords still op or can i use other weapons now?

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for psyker specifically

keen flume
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FGS is a great melee and very popular too

green rover
keen flume
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But it is uncertain when the nerf changes coming, maybe next major update

green rover
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sounds like a breath of fresh air

smoky ember
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thats all it really said if i remmeber right

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reworks probably

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hopefully,,,

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but i am faithless

keen flume
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I still where and how did that chinese steam blogpost got those weapon changes

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Probably wont be for the final release but still weird where did they got that info

arctic cosmos
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Haven't played in awhile - just hopped back in, has there been an update that breaks mods?

stoic locust
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If your mods are old you should update them

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There may have been major system reworks since you last played

arctic cosmos
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Big thanks thumbsup_ogryn

tender sand
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I'm trying to customize indicators' positioning for Spidey Sense, via Custom HUD as recommended. But I don't see any elements on the screen which would affect positions of its backstab indicators

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this one was my first guess, but no, moving it doesn't change its position

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and there are no others in that region

keen flume
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Pretty sure you dont do that through custom HUD

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I think is through the spidey sense mod settings from what i remember but only used for short time

smoky ember
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could just have been entirely faked

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idk how large the chinese darktide scene is

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but we've had people here fake some patchnotes for funnies

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so it wouldnt surprise me

vocal nacelle
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On the steam announcement

smoky ember
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no

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we're talking about the announcment that was talking about ds and plasma being reworked

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that would give ds a parry and massively rework plasma

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which was translated from chinese

tough cape
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Granted a few of them are Thai by their chatter lol

vocal nacelle
vernal plaza
smoky ember
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my bad

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@keen flume

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i was wrong

arctic granite
stoic locust
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You wasted a ton of time just sitting and holding block at the beginning

fickle ether
# arctic granite Gentlemen was there anything i could've done to make this easier on myself? http...

At the start of the clip you had time to get some purg in clearing out atleast some of the horde. The M1 on that staff if there isnt final toll can stun lock that mauler if you arent that comfortable holding the charge while dodging the overhead. Once the twins locked onto you that wasnt the worse play but instead of getting knocked into a deadend I would have went out the door on the left to buy some time for your team to come help.

arctic granite
fickle ether
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That's the joy of havoc learning not to panic when shit goes south

arctic granite
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was probably scared of the captain zooming at me at the start so i just held block

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it was a really good match overall

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also just pretty happy i survived because i usually see runs end if someone goes down and other people panic

keen flume
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Those teammates were also not doing much to help to kill the bosses through the entire clip

arctic granite
keen flume
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Surprise that they survived, I was expecting them to die instantly

robust kindle
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Sry... Maybe someone knows how to fix?(
GUID: d317916c-9327-40b2-af1b-cfd6f5654934
Log File:
Info Type:

[Script Error]: ...ements/player_buffs/hud_element_player_buffs_polling.lua:540: attempt to index local 'widget' (a nil value)

I have no mods, and already reinstall my game... Few years, since launch there was no issues, this comes only last week...

fierce sandal
robust kindle
keen flume
arctic cosmos
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Do kills with Assail spikes/projectiles as Psyker count towards Kill X amount of Dregs with Ranged?

clear plume
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yes

arctic cosmos
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Big love for the response @clear plume thumbsup_ogryn

final drift
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I have like 20-30 hours in this game and I gotta be honest. I don't understand the stats on weapons at all.

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I seen this post and I don't know what the fuck any of the comments mean

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It's crazy you can't post screenshots

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Basically it showed two shovels and asked which one was better, and was talking about dump stats and things.

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I only look at the damage number up do gooder

little coyote
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You need the convicts role to be able to post images and embedded images, you get it once you've messaged enough messages on the server

little coyote
# final drift I only look at the damage number up do gooder

So basically the stats are divided in two values, current and max. Those range from 0% - 80%, no weapon can have all stats at max 80%. The values always total to 380, so you can have weapons with stats 80/80/80/80/60 for example, this distribution of values if often what people search for where 60 is the dump stat. Dump stat is the one you don't need to be high or gives you the least benefit compared to the rest the weapon has access to

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The current stats can be improved by increasing the weapon mastery for that weapon family and going to the weapon customization station and empowering them

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and you can see what each of the stats impacts by inspecting the weapon

final drift
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Thanks og!!!

little coyote
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🫡

limber thicket
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the stats are complicated, but until you want to dive deeper into it, just know that Defense or Mobility are the dump stats 99% of the time.

final drift
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I thought people like mobility

little coyote
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it is nice but having it 80 instead of 60 rarely gives much benefits

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some instances it might be prudent to have it higher than 60 but often that comes down to preference

pastel forge
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Ye on most weapons the difference between max and minimum mobility is pretty negligible

final drift
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🤙🤙🤙

pastel forge
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The only exception i can remember is dueling sword which dumps cleave instead

shadow skiff
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If you wanna minmax.

pastel forge
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I remember there is a dueling sword that dumps cleave

shadow skiff
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Yes, for mk4.

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Mk5 is def or pen if you like memes.

patent urchin
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Anyone here down for havoc 40? I want a dedicated team
I play psyker mainly but can flex all classes

craggy minnow
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Crusher dumps like, power output because push attack cost is on defenses

edgy onyx
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So right now it's possibly better to hold off on hunting a godroll stat Plasma Gun just incase tweaks in function and stats change what the meta is, I assume.

rich ocean
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I'm not sure where's the place to ask, but does anyone know of any mods that improve the performance of the game?

I've always had little fps issues with the game but by the God Emperor, it's been getting worse with each update

fickle ether
main lily
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Does anyone know why I can't seem to get any progress on Find Their Weakness? I'm tossing the stunstorm grenade and attacking but I'm not getting any results. Maybe it's because I'm using the dueling sword?

solid pilot
solid pilot
main lily
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I think I'd confused critical hits and weakspot hits

solid pilot
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Oh yup in many games a critical hit is a weakspot hit but this game does handle them separately, you can even stack them

main lily
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Doesn't help the penance had weakness in the title

solid pilot
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that's an excellent point that is pretty misleading actually lol

main lily
keen obsidian
modest marten
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anyone having issues with darktide crashing when playing mods immedietly when loading a mission scince the hitfix yesterday?

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specifically when using power_DI

keen flume
modest marten
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yes

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until theres some update for Power_DI im just gonna outcomment it

vocal nacelle
modest marten
vocal nacelle
vernal plaza
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Modding server
They posted fix for powerdi and weapon custom too

modest marten
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ok thanks

lethal sierra
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Hi just bought the game with the new class. Just want to ask does the Home World choice matter here?

little coyote
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Not really, some have slight additions to cosmetic options but nothing more beyond that, just some role playing opportunities

lethal sierra
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Also I found that this games has some mods on nexus, is there any recommended mods to use? I believe you can have bots here as your teammate. are they good enough?

keen flume
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But Cadia is the only planet that gives extra stuff like new eye colours that is tied to planet and it's lore

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And if you play veteran and pick Cadia as home world you get to pick the Cutthroat personality which is a Cadian person

keen flume
lethal sierra
keen flume
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Ehh not sure, I don't use Solo play mods as I always play with randoms

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But there are few of them and some people here to play

little coyote
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do solo mods even give you progress?

keen flume
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I don't think so

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As from from what I saw with Solo Play mod

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Honestly you are better to play for the meantime vanilla, you just bought the game

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Public matches with randoms ain't too bad (for most of the time)

vocal nacelle
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and you cant private the game need 2 people

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but there's workaround that turns your game semi solo ish (with bots)

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KEKW_ogryn also the game not designed to be solo (you can but its harder and more annoying)

vernal plaza
pastel forge
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Tbh i also consider myself mostly a solo player but entering public matches with randoms is still good

lethal sierra
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damn the game crashes a lot

lethal sierra
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guys my game really crashes a lot. any recommended settings that I should be aware of?

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damn HD2 doesnt crash me at all but this is so fvking bad. it crash like every 30 mins

limber thicket
vocal nacelle
lethal sierra
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The thing is I am only crashing when I visit the penance

vocal nacelle
lethal sierra
lethal sierra
keen flume
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Have you tried to play vanilla to see if it crashes

lethal sierra
keen flume
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There are other plenty mods, i never used dogwhistle though

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Not sure it could be related to it

lethal sierra
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it was working well earlier I dunno what happens that everytime I go to penance menu so that I can claim my reward it just crashes

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I am sorry but kinda not sorry, this is a 2 years old game and still function like shit. HD2 and some other games is much newer than this game and it doesnt crash at all. even last night that HD2 peak for 300k players.

keen flume
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Because xbox release KEKW_ogryn
Have you seen what the crash was related to with report?

lethal sierra
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there was nothing on the crash report which is also why I am wondering I cannot let you guys see what error it is because me myself dont know what it is.

lethal sierra
keen flume
lethal sierra
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ill just delete everything and reinstall the whole game

keen flume
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I am unable to see that both mods cause crashes from the modding server

lethal sierra
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ill just play vanilla

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that numericID thing is really cool QOL

vocal nacelle
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Try changing other characters and access the penance

lethal sierra
vocal nacelle
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It could be this too

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Just avoid penance current patch KEKW_ogryn

keen flume
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Did they break the game again but with penance claim now lol

vocal nacelle
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Recent one because custom weapon mod causing crash

lethal sierra
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ill try with my other char if it will allow me

lethal sierra
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damn I was about to uninstall the game lol

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Thank a lot

vocal nacelle
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KEKW_ogryn bug tide

keen flume
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Fix one thing on Arbites and break more 10 stuff

flat hull
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how do you deal with ragers when not playing arbi or ogryn

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been face tanking them without problems but playing some psyker for the first time in a long while and that doesn't really work

limber thicket
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kill them from range

flat hull
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what about vet and zealot. I can't just swing through their rage

jade hollow
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My darktide settings just reset and now im lagging like crazy, what do I do?

lone adder
smoky ember
vocal nacelle
heady pulsar
keen oracle
lethal sierra
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is the patch already drop on steam version? why the steam doesnt show update

keen flume
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try to restart app loregryn

lethal sierra
cosmic sky
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Red ragers are a pain in the ass though

final drift
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Why do people care so much about stamina on courios? I don't find this system as easily instantly understood as Vermintide stam/guard point system

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In other words, what actually is stamina in this game other than my sprint lol

clear plume
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2 things

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1: certain weapon want to use the push attack more which uses stamina for their attack pattern (crusher, tactical axe, ogryn pickaxe)

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2: sprinting with certain builds/weapons allows you to outrun enemies which some people value then defensive curios

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Stamina is worth a lot more in DT then VT

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And certain classes struggle with maintaining stam because of their base stats are low (vet)

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I only use stamina on 2 classes, veteran and zealot

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The others can make due without

final drift
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I have no stam on my shooty vet because aiming and shooting takes it away lol

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But I see. Thanks!

clear plume
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That also

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Deadshot (using stam to increase crit chance while scoping)

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Also increases dps but lowers defense because people bring stamina curios with it

limber thicket
clear plume
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Stamina is sprinting, blocking, and pushing. Also certain talents drain stam

final drift
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🤙🤙

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Does holding block and actually blocking active attacks drain stam because I haven't noticed

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I've dodged more than hold guard down for multiple hits

keen flume
final drift
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Even if I get hit? What stops me from blocking all attacks because I assume it stops at some point

pastel forge
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getting hit while blocking consumes stamina

clear plume
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Certain enemies deal more "stamina" damage

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Bulwark shield bash does 100% stam damage if you are blocking

keen flume
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There are few blessings that drain your stamina for holding block if i remember

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One being tied to force sword for psyker

keen flume
final drift
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🤙🙏

limber thicket
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stop throwing gang signs, that's illegal

edgy onyx
flat hull
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I was mostly meming but thank you for the responses everyone

final drift
keen flume
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Don't karking 🤙🙏🤙☝️✌️👉 at us like that angymorrow

thorny harness
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can anyone help me with a psyker achievement?

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need to kill a monstrosity on heresy with a brain burst

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needs to be on a private game though

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junopangus on steam if you're interested

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character name is Genevieve

little coyote
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You can try out the lfg channels, those might yield better results for company

thorny harness
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oh my foolish ass

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didn't notice

little coyote
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No worries 🫡

shadow skiff
thorny harness
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just got it but thank you

rigid wasp
frank dust
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Hey. Gotta question regarding heavy attacks. Some blessings increase the dmg of attack the longer you charge. Does this mean there is no difference how long you charge without the blessing?

vocal nacelle
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just release the moment the animation change from light to heavy

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will feel it if you heavy spam block cancel ogryn shield

frank dust
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Thanks

pastel forge
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it can still be useful to hold the heavy attack when youre approaching an enemy so you can release it the moment they are in melee range

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but if theyre already in range and you dont have the thrust blessing just release it as soon as the animation starts

brittle basin
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Brunt's Armoury isn't loading for me. Is anybody else getting this issue?

thorn abyss
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its loading on my other characters, already hard reset game/console/internet and still wont load on my Vet

late valley
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Veteran only seems to be a spread issue

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weird

brittle basin
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Huh. I didn't even think my class was a factor.

vocal nacelle
late valley
round verge
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Is there any way to see what the armoury has without opening the game?

limber thicket
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yes

round verge
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Oh shoot, really?

limber thicket
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yeah

round verge
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That'd save me a ton of time. How do I do it?

limber thicket
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I don't know

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but I do know that you can

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a website that you link with your darktide account or something like that

round verge
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Oh that website doesn't seem to work anymore.

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I was looking for a new way.

polar forum
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so long as you have that, it should still work

round verge
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Oh huh, its working now. yeah yesterday it wasn't working for me at all and I found a bunch of posts saying it wasn't supported/updated.

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Cool

round verge
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Yeah this is going to save me so much time and effort. Wow.

cedar dagger
cursive sable
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Guys any tips on how to get the 120 enemies in 30 seconds penance ?

vocal nacelle
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ogryn or zealot probably

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or venting shriek inferno psyker

cursive sable
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ok I ll try thanks !

frank dust
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Hi. Wanted to clarify. Some talents activate upon taking dmg. This only means when toughness is broken?

vocal nacelle
round verge
cedar dagger
smoky ember
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it’s got good info in general about blessings and talents

gleaming copper
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whats better for carapace? impact or rending?

clear plume
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so always rending

gleaming copper
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ohhhh

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well crap

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cuz i want a way to deal with capace enemies as veteran

clear plume
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thats pretty easy

limber thicket
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duelling sword, power sword

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knoife

clear plume
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melee weapons have alot more rending damage then ranged damage on average

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notable weapons are knife dueling sword, power sword, combat axe

limber thicket
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Bolter spam in aurics works too KEKW_ogryn

clear plume
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certain ranged weapons can do carapace damage

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like bolter and revolver

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certain ranged weapons with a build can do it aswell

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vigilent auto guns and helbore

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kraks grenades are always an option

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always 1 shotting crushers and maulers

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and with vet nade regen speed its really good

limber thicket
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what's the setup for helbore to be good vs cara?

clear plume
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but learning to melee carapace will help alot in the long run

clear plume
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and a blessing

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forgor name

gleaming copper
gleaming copper
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yeh yeh

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i read that

clear plume
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but all melee weapons can deal with carapace

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just need to learn how to dance around them

limber thicket
clear plume
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think so

gleaming copper
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fair nuff

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also what kind of weapons are good for a combat stance build?

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sorry

clear plume
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the left side ability?

gleaming copper
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executioner's stance

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yes

clear plume
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vigilant autogun, las weapons, bolt pistol (not 100% sure if it can get elite 1 taps)

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shredder auto gets a bit funny too

gleaming copper
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well i like the braced autogun

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is that any gud?

clear plume
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go for it

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yeah

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the slowest one has cleave, good for mixed horde clear

visual gyro
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hey sooo! real quick. how do you use skullcrusher exactly?

clear plume
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stagger an enemy to increase its damage taken from all sources

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stagger sources varies depending on class

gleaming copper
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real quick too

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is there such a thing as a grenade/explosive build?

clear plume
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yeah

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vet has 5 1/2 grenade talents plus bolt pistol increase grenade explosion radius, from a blessing

limber thicket
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rumbler spam too

clear plume
limber thicket
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everyone loves that build

clear plume
gleaming copper
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ohhhhh

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alright i heard of it

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is damage or ammo aura better?

clear plume
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define better

gleaming copper
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like

clear plume
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they do different things for differnt playstyles

gleaming copper
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for the grenade build

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what would be more advantageous for it

clear plume
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damage aura increases grenade damage

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plus better talent tree pathing

gleaming copper
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gotcha

smoky ember
gleaming copper
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gotcha

smoky ember
clear plume
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mb

smoky ember
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from the pinned guides

visual gyro
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aah okay awesome

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ty ty

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so if I stagger a boss and whack 'em. then they'll get debuffed

clear plume
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dont need to hit them iirc

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ogryn taunt applies SC if you holding your melee weapon

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things like that

limber thicket
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but it only works so long as the enemy is staggered

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bosses don't get staggered for long

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but I was almost certain you had to hit enemies a second time to get the stack

keen flume
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Ogryn on the other hand

round verge
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I want 17% toughness curios. They're all I really need.
Should I roll for them from Melk or continue to just stalk the shops?

stoic locust
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Both work

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Shop camping is vastly less expensive but takes longer

inland lichen
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If you primarily stare at your PC, you can just check a tab on your browser every hour

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Then only ever log in when there's a max roll.

round verge
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getting some ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

inland lichen
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rip

round verge
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Yeah looks like someone had the issue earlier in July so I'll ask them

plush bolt
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I'm pretty new to havoc, and I was wonder if the twins plasma shot can one shot kill with no wounds?

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I know melee can cause some corruption, but I wasn't aware that ranged could

clear plume
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Ranged does not deal corruption damage

red ginkgo
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Sometimes you can get hit in melee while also being tagged by a ranged shot, so it can seem like the ranged attack does corruption, but it's always that one little poxwalker out of LOS

plush bolt
vernal plaza
plush bolt
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Would have been smart

limber thicket
clear plume
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And captains

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All bosses with bubble shields have that bug

plush bolt
gleaming copper
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lads what does it mean to supress enemies?

limber thicket
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when you shoot at\near certain ranged enemies, they cower and stop attacking

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also works on groaners i think?

gleaming copper
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gotcha

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so with infiltrate you bassicly jumpscare them

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gotcha

cedar dagger
visual gyro
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hello darktiders
do twins/captains count as unyielding enemies?

limber thicket
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no

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they don't count as monstrosities either

visual gyro
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darn

frank dust
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Hello. Me with questions again. I know it's worth killing bosses before proceeding stages in havoc (since they follow and can lead to 4 bosses at the same time). Does the same go for other enemies? I've just seen very different play styles. One guy stayed for a while to clean the horde before proceeding. Yesterday someone was coatching to be agressive and push

smoky ember
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kill things that are close and threats

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if you stay behind too long to kill things, you’ll get more horde spawns and special surges on you

frank dust
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There were like 10 crushers and other armoreds. But they were so far we could easily proceed. But the idea was, that they would follow to other stage and stack upon other enemies there

smoky ember
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if it’s an armor pack that kinda depends

vocal nacelle
smoky ember
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i’d probably go back and kill them

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just so they don’t travel thru doors in the middle of a horde

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and get us that way

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but if you’re like, about to go through an elevator or airlock

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i’d just go

frank dust
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So the idea is valid, that leftover enemies stack with the ones that will spawn next?

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Im talking about airlocks and elevetors, yeah

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We had ages of spare time to get to the air lock but one guy persisted to stay and clear a horde with armoreds

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So it made me wonder if it really works that way

keen flume
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Depends on map and airlock/elevator some have boss triggers/twins/rituals after walking through where your better clearing what's behide you then going through unless it's a handful of poxwalkers which really cant do anything to you. I always say if you dont know what's in the next area clear the armor then move on fodder stuff like poxwalkers are never a problem.

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fierce sandal
pastel forge
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yeah the most important is to stick with the team

keen flume
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And never back away too much or get sandwiched KEKW_ogryn

pastel forge
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What would be the favorite sandwich for each personality

keen flume
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The most important question that we have to know

potent lance
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How rare is a lvl 430 toughness curio i had no idea that it was even an option?

vocal nacelle
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just check if the toughness is 17%

frank dust
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Going solo is always bad in havoc, but these were not the situations. Main question - is it worth clearing big chunks of enemies before proceeding to elevator/air lock, even if you have opportunity to proceed.

little coyote
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Usually it is better to clear them out I feel, they'll just follow you to the next area if you don't and you risk spawning another wave on top of it

clear plume
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Only when its finite enemies and if there are elites

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cause they do follow

frank dust
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People here say that it depends on situation, but the only situation in havoc 30+ is endless hordes with 10-15sec breaks at best

clear plume
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hordes are finite outside certain events

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you do run out of enemies

frank dust
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Do you play solo? Could be that you're not fast enough in clearing the horde before the next one all by yourself? I'm not sure though because I never tried solo havoc

frank dust
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No. Usually with people of clearance lvl 40 too. And yet there are instances where you get pinned down in a starting area for like 7mins

clear plume
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cause the director has alot more tickets at the beginning of progression

vocal nacelle
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KEKW_ogryn if its like 20 elites each then go clear that first before they come in package with twins

frank dust
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Guess that makes sense. Wouldnt want 20 crushers acompanying them

edgy onyx
# frank dust There were like 10 crushers and other armoreds. But they were so far we could ea...

I'd at least tag them to let the team know.
I sometime take up the rear if I'm playing my Knife/Plasma Vet, since I can pick off specialists with ranged but also have the speed to sprint to the front if I'm needed, so I'll tag a crusher pack while jogging along with the team, it's less risky than staying behind and taking them on all by yourself in case a sneaky trapper hides behind the crusher pack, very easy way for things to go South fast.

gusty whale
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but no one issued our rejects a compass

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smh

edgy onyx
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I wonder if a compass would even work so deep inside the hive, I assume plasteel and a bunch of the other material is magnetic.

warped basin
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what's the strat for clutch soloing each monstrosity?

keen flume
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Learn their attacks, be efficient

clear plume
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bosses are slow in their vaulting

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use terrain

keen flume
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Use advantages of the missions layout, use the explosive barrels for stagger and fire ones for chip damage

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Plague Ogryn is the most easiest and straight forward but beware of the charge and slam, you can block the charge with your melee if you got stamina

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Chaos spawn is aggressive, you can avoid their grab if you dodge to your right at the right moment

warped basin
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prob won't be able to pull it off, just curious
since lately I've been getting main character syndrome teammates or people who don't seem to have dodge/block keys bound

hushed chasm
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squeak (for the plague ogre, scurry directly up to it, and bait out the single hit fist slam. All you need to do is dodge backwards to avoid the attack. After you dodge his attack, just keep repeating walking up, and dodging backwards. This makes is super easy to consistently hit headshots)

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squeak (for the beast of nurgle, walk up to it, and wait for it to vomit. When it vomits, either dodge left or left or right, and just poke its back from right next to it from the side as much as possible, and repeat. Your goal is to minimise the distance that the beast moves, as it makes it harder to hit its weak point, while managing its vomit area denial so you have more room to scurry around it)

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squeak (note that if you get hit by vomit, just kite until until it wears off so you dont get eaten. Addtionally, if you are a bubble psyker, you can just bubble ontop of the beast, and you will be completely safe from its vomit, even when you are right next to it.)

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squeak (the chaos spawn is by far the hardest because of how oppressive it is. There is a way to get a semi consistent attack loop by walking right up to it, baiting out its single fist slam, and dodging RIGHT. From testing, it is much more consistent when you dodge to the right, and you have to hug the spawn as close as possible when dodging to keep him in this attack loop)

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squeak (rat hopes this helps) ;D

hard plume
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So what's the deal with elites oneshotting you from full wounds in Havoc

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Is it an overflow bug with the corruption damage you take from melee attacks in Havoc?

clear plume
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its intended

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overheads do so much damage that most human classes die in 1 hit since its more then 1 wound of corruption damage in the total damage delt

hard plume
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Ogryn can die from full or near-full health from one crusher overhead too

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Has FS stated that it's intended?

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Because it feels inconsistent

little coyote
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It doesn't feel intended

hard plume
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Yeah lol

little coyote
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I've encountered the same many times, insta death from full wounds without getting corruption damage

hard plume
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It just happens sometimes

clear plume
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Was there a captain boss?

hard plume
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Maybe damage resistance is helping people survive the oneshots

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No, just crushers and maulers

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But twins and captains trigger it too, yes

clear plume
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then you got hit with 2 overheads in quick succession

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that can full kill an ogryn

hard plume
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There was only one crusher

clear plume
hard plume
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What happened was that the ogryn got pounced, then got overheaded

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Went from 100-0 instantly

clear plume
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yeah that can happen

hard plume
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My theory is that the dog bite caused a tick of corruption that put him over 100% health

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I got overheaded from about 90% health by a crusher in another match and instantly died

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Then the zealot got overheaded and killed, but I didn't see what other instances of damage they were taking

clear plume
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it also can change depening on build/curios

hard plume
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idk this shit does not feel intended

little coyote
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Think I've got a few clips to show, one has a pretty clear corruption prior to dying but two other single damage instances from normal elite enemies have killed me outright

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you should go down from it

hard plume
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But yeah, damage reduction might be preventing a lot of oneshots in cases where people survive

little coyote
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but it doesn't happen

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This one has the corruption

hard plume
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YEP

little coyote
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these two don't

hard plume
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Yeah that's exactly what it looks like

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I can't even tell what killed you in that second gif

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Hit in the back by a rager?

little coyote
hard plume
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Ragers can also cause the oneshots, and I'm wondering if it's like Plague Monks/Zerkers in Vermintide where all of their hits are getting sent as one giant 80-damage packet

little coyote
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I don't mind getting a huge input of damage but getting outright killed without prior corruption is what irks me

hard plume
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It happens in non-Final Toll matches too

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So I don't think it's just sheer damage

clear plume
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depening on havoc rank total melee enemy damage delt is corruption on top of certain enemies already having corruption dealing attack (poxwalkers, plague ogryns)

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psyker and vet are often 2 shot by poxwalkers for this reason

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1 poxwalker hit removes toughness and then 2nd 1 shots you because of the total damage being around 50% corruption which can 1 shot, in most cases

little coyote
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but do crushers and maulers deal corruption?

clear plume
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Yeah in Havoc

clear plume
hard plume
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All melee does

little coyote
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that would explain it, but why does it not display on the health bar

clear plume
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it does

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but its instant

little coyote
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corruption should be visible when dead as well, no?

clear plume
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no

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one sec

little coyote
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ah right, you're right

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I remembered wrong

clear plume
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he did 1 wound of corruption damage with 30% of his damage making you insta die

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all good now?

little coyote
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I think so, I did add a wound curio after those clips and it hasn't happened since

clear plume
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that is the worst idea since its hp value

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they bypass wounds

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I can draw a picture to explain

little coyote
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I know but a single attack won't go through two wounds this time around

clear plume
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it does

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too tired to make a graph, but overkill damage bypasses wound system because of the corruption override

hard plume
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So yeah, basically you take so much corruption that it overflows your hp and instakills you

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It's why eating an overhead as zealot will sometimes leve you at 1hp and 99% purple

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if Revenant procs

little coyote
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I got that part but the damage they deal is high enough for the extra wound to not be enough to mitigate the corruption portion?

clear plume
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corruption goes through wounds and if there is corruption past your last wound you insta die

little coyote
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yes yes but the full damage is high enough to do that even with extra wounds is what I'm asking

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Would the optimal survival curio be corruption resistance then?

clear plume
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yes and no

hard plume
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If nothing else, it's a possible case for running more hp and anti-corruption on curios

hard plume
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yellow armor will outright prevent the oneshots

clear plume
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toughness stacking to help stop hp bleedthrough

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but overheads from crusher and maulers still 1 shot, human classes

hard plume
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That too

vocal nacelle
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as ogryn

clear plume
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arby too with some talents

hard plume
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Arb and Ogryn can usually survive

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Though they will sometimes get oneshot as well

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lil uns have more of an argument

vocal nacelle
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havoc is 100% toughness or die KEKW_ogryn

little coyote
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my go-to has been toughness stacking as psyker so far but the full hp and full toughness one hits made me exchange one curio for an extra wound. Should I then do something else instead?

clear plume
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3 toughness or 2 toughness 1 hp is a good idea

hard plume
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2t/1hp

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Is safe

clear plume
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you cant stop the 1 shots from maulers and crushers on psyker without yellow toughness

little coyote
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3 toughness was clearly not enough, so I'll respec for 2t and 1hp next I feel

clear plume
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go for it

hard plume
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It prevents a single poxburster from taking you from 100% to 40%

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I run x3 toughness usually because I like seeing it go to 111 hehehe

little coyote
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I don't have three 17% toughness curious so I only get to 108 😔

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though you might have a toughness talent that I do not

hard plume
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You can also run a stam curio if you want to block for ages with Kinetic Deflection

little coyote
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I prefer my shock maul