gameplay-help

[vernal plaza]

Only 7 mobs can get suppressed
Mostly gunners

*type of mobs

[warm anvil]

So after i max out the weapon mastery does it count for 1 weapon or the whole family tree ???? and can the blessing be max out across all perks?

[graceful raptor]

the whole family tree !!!!

across all classes even !!!!

all characters !!!!

and you can max all blessings on the mastery !!!!

unlimited possibilities !!!!

[graceful raptor]

got it ????

[warm anvil]

YUM

[fast urchin]

What perks and blessings on crusher for zealot

[vocal nacelle]

skullcrusher + slaughterer /thrust

flak + free (maniac/carapace/unyielding)

[fast urchin]

Okay, ty

Which is the better laspistol

Also do they both dump mob

[vast vessel]

what do people mean when they say "dump stats" and how do you modify the stats on a weapon?

[warm anvil]

modify which stats ? if you meant the Damage% or Defence% thing then you can Empower them in Harond Forge (Tech priest lady)Dump stats is the stats that prove the LEAST benefit to that certain weapon

[vast vessel]

uhh... so when ppl say they "chose" a dump stat on something, how do they do that?

[warm anvil]

And btw How to sacrifice the "Profane" weapon

[warm anvil]

Choose here mean "Roll" the weapon at Brunt's Workshop

GACHA

[vast vessel]

I see. So how do you know what the final stat line will be once you've maxed a weapon to transcendent?

if say you roll a profane weapon or buy a blue from Brunt directly

and you don't wanna waste resources on a weapon that's got the wrong stats

how do you know if that final upgrade is gonna meet the proper breakpoints?

[warm anvil]

upping the tier of you weapon only unlocked the Potential of having better Perks (Refine) and more slot to your Blessing (Re Blessing)

[warm anvil]

you see the true MAX out stats through the second percent number of that stats for EX: 50/80%

which mean that you now have 50% bonus but you can max it out at 80%

and yes the cap is 80%

[warm anvil]

that is why when you "ROLL" look for the best of the best that your Build require

[vast vessel]

I see

how do you choose different MKs when forging weapons at Brunt's Armory?

oh wait nvm I found it

[warm anvil]

you can choose it when you have lvl up your weapon

you don't forge it

some have MK some don't

[bleak gyro]

Is there a guide for Havoc demonhosts? Shit's so ass, I wish I knew where exactly it can spawn

[shrewd peak]

does Smackdown blessing's crit chance apply across weapons? like can i get the crit chance from it then switch to my secondary and have higher crit chance with it

[vocal nacelle]

wanna know how it works? https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/vY5t1R15Pv

[vocal nacelle]

it doesnt affect ranged

[shrewd peak]

what about melee-based secondary specials?

[dapper shard]

It shouldn’t work on these, either

[tender sand]

1. Does every hit you block cost the same amount of stamina, or it scales proportionally with how much damage it would make?
2. You can't fully block crusher's and mauler's overheads sure - but does it still reduce amount of damage you get, comparing to no blocking?
3. Does blocking near burster's explosion help you in any way (if you can't get to safety)?

[vocal nacelle]

1. scale with damage
2. you can block overhead using shield, cant remember if you can block 'half" the damage pretty sure you cant
3. no

[tender sand]

thanks

[vocal nacelle]

if you want to block burster damage, get more toughness

and golden toughness

[tender sand]

It's strange that even ogryn shield, which stops bosses and daemonhosts, can't protect you from burster's boom

I would expect it should, if the alt attack is used

or it does?

[vocal nacelle]

gimme a moment to test

[tender sand]

like, I mean, it's an assault shield which are designed for this specifically lol. Would be a neat thing to have, making it more useful. "Get behind me, punies" - and then you slam it into the ground, saving everybody, nice

[vocal nacelle]

cant test

divine intervention i always crash when i use shield in psykanium

[keen flume]

Nope it wont block you when planting your shield

[tender sand]

bummer..

[smoky ember]

it doesn’t

bursters don’t interact with block at all

[icy crater]

How are you supposed to set up and do orthus offensive bells if it's not on the mission screen?

[heady ravine]

what maps or mods should i look for if im looking to fight lots and lots of ranged guys?

[graceful raptor]

maelstrom has a modifier like that

sometimes 🙂

[icy crater]

sniper gauntlet flashbacks

[warped hollow]

does auric level mortis trials contribute to the 10 consecutive auric rounds without dying penance?

[smoky ember]

there’s a maelstrom modifier that’s mostly ranged enemies

[tender sand]

Is there a visual cue that helps you to understand your current cleave isn't sufficient to deliver damage to all possible targets, assuming it's a strictly horizontal sweep? Like, will the swing's animation stop mid-way in such case? And if it's played from end to end, can I then be sure I hit all the mobs it went through - or the animation is played to the end in any case, but damage may only be applied to the first few mobs it hits, until cleave limit is reached?

[vernal plaza]

Disable cthrushield

[vernal plaza]

also toughness does jack shit on burster, the only one
Sniper got 10x toughness multiplier, overhead 2x (or more?), burster just turn it to 0 before doing damage

[keen oracle]

The one modifier I have never done

With no plans to change that

[gusty whale]

mostly ranged maelstrom is the least engaging round of darktide you'll ever play

[void jay]

If im going for the Disrupt Destiny penance, which is better for uptime? Perfectionism or Lingering Influence?

[zealous dome]

L Influence

[void jay]

ty

[rigid wasp]

Lingering influence is going to be the better pick for uptime in general

It gives you a lot more time to do your thing and the bonuses still are very good

[clear plume]

Only in campaign or using mods

[shadow skiff]

Or 4 man quickplay RNGing into it twice trying to normal aurics.

[arctic granite]

anyone got tips on how to tell if you caused the wipe?

[arctic cosmos]

Hey all, I want a decent Greatsword but can only get ones at Brunt's armory that are a power level below my current gear. Any other way to get one of my power level?

Also I've got a mission to kill 'Dregs' but have run 2x missions now and not really seen any - is that normal? Am I on the wrong difficulty / mission mode?

[keen oracle]

You can upgrade power level, it doesn't matter much. What you really want are the optimal max stats for the weapons.

Psyker Greatsword would 60% warp res, relic blade would be 60% mobility with all other stats at 80% when fully upgraded

[keen oracle]

Yeah, it's just bad luck

[arctic cosmos]

@keen oracle - Big love for the fast and detailed answers ❤️

[keen oracle]

All you can do is think back on events.

Did you leave anyone in a net when you could have got them up?

Did you hit a barrel and knock someone off the edge?

Did you overextend and get downed far from your team?

I will say, It's rarely just one mistake that causes a wipe, unless someone is carrying hard

[arctic granite]

5 havoc wipes in a row gets you doubting

but yeah i generally try to just think back

[icy crater]

Watching your teammates getting chipped or an insta death with 2+ wounds is usually how I see a havoc fall apart

Once you're a duo it's possible to recover still but any disabler during a hoard and it's hell

[winter merlin]

Is it true all havoc rank 40 players going to fall to rank 30 every 3months?

[clear plume]

yes

[rancid raft]

If I remember correctly. Your assignment rank falls from 40 to 30, but you are set to clearance level 0 again.

That’s what happened to me last time anyway

[winter merlin]

So it’s true I’m assuming.. (Ainz) says so as well

[clear plume]

iirc relic blade and FGS power

[agile quarry]

Can someone teach me

How do I play Psyker w/ Greatsword

I want to keep high peril up and get all benefits etc

[fierce sandal]

Record and send clip to [e-mail] then await verdict 🤞

[fierce sandal]

Scrier's gaze, in a nutshell

[surreal nacelle]

What's the average setup for combat knife?

[surreal nacelle]

Ty, do you also have one for Bolt Pistol

[clear plume]

from the zealot guide

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16W_MhzUGXv9WRVjXjowIyqlktqrJ8U5wxVlgX3X5TU8/edit?tab=t.0

[surreal nacelle]

🙏

[woeful solstice]

do curios ratings matter?

[clear plume]

none but stam

stam need 410+ to be +3

[woeful solstice]

cool cool thanks :)

[vestal sail]

is "corruption" the purple bar that appears when you get exposed to toxins?

[keen oracle]

Yes

[vestal sail]

Thanks

[arctic cosmos]

Apologies for the noob question, but interested in the "I Came, I Saw, I Conquered! Throneside" penance in the long term.
What does it mean by 'Throneside' - how do I play missions in that 'Area' ?

[vocal nacelle]

Enclavum baross mission

[graceful raptor]

throneside are the missions in the archivum and enclavum barossa

[arctic cosmos]

So I just keep searching the missions terminal till they pop up? Is there like a particular difficulty setting for them?

Or is it always random what missions are on

[graceful raptor]

random 🙂

[vocal nacelle]

Still RNG

Unless you use mod

[arctic cosmos]

Thank you for fast and detailed answers @graceful raptor / @vocal nacelle - I'll put my fate in the RNG gods and hope it isn't Tzeentch

[paper zenith]

Thou art his pawn

[serene dome]

guys can you level up past 30? if level is capped at 30 is it possible to fully unlock the talent tree or is it just capped at 30 talent points?

[lime portal]

30 talent points is the max

[serene dome]

oh ok, is there any guide or recommendation on best arbitrator talent tree?

[lime portal]

check the pinned messages in #arbites-class

otherwise, hard to make a bad build for arbites

[serene dome]

thanks

[dense radish]

Hello everyone! Been playing for a while but never dived into end game and stats, just sorta ran around on 1-3 difficulty blasting heretics away and having fun. But wanted to start gunning for better gear and I have a Kantrael Mk X Laspistol in Sire Melks shop that has 79% damage 78% ammo 75% Power 74% Mobility and 75% stability
Would this be considered a good weapon? I know you wanna get the better stats to 80% but this seems pretty well rounded, would the lack of a few % make a huge difference?

[graceful raptor]

for most weapons mobility/defence and collateral are dump stats, so these are your goals on every weapon ideally

and about las pistol - it doesnt really matter i think

caring about breakpoints on every single weapon... is it really worth it?..

[graceful raptor]

especially i think that you are new, you dont have enough resources to gamble at brunt for weapons with needed dump stats

so i think you should not care for now

[arctic cosmos]

Does every mission at every difficulty have heretic idols?

[rancid raft]

I think so, I still see them in havoc missions

[arctic cosmos]

ty ty 👍

[fickle ether]

All but the rolling steel mission have idols

[arctic cosmos]

TyTy

[arctic cosmos]

Is there any point leaving a greatsword "charged up" - like does it have extra crit chance? Or just use the wave attack every time it is charged?

[umbral oasis]

So, the new mutator, what does it do?

[polar forum]

the event? just spawns a shit ton of crushers and maulers

with a lot more damage resistance

and need to be melee'd

[polar forum]

no benefits besides charging the actual wave attack

[arctic cosmos]

TyTy

[steel oxide]

Is the orthys offensive just locked behind the campaign now? I never seem to see it in rotation or get quick matched into a game playing it.

[umbral oasis]

Do they explode when shot? Game said they explode in toxin every third of health

[polar forum]

fart clouds will damage you over time

it's not much

[umbral oasis]

But, do clouds spawn from shooting them, or something else? That was the question

[polar forum]

from killing them generally

[umbral oasis]

Ok, so basically just keep distance from them like they ate beans

Standard Nurgle bs

[polar forum]

the fastest way to kill them is using a good carapace melee

not shooting

so kill them, and walk out of the fart cloud

[steel oxide]

I think it counts as pox gas so if your running an arbitrator build the rebreather perk should effect it

[polar forum]

as far as i can tell, it's a weaker pox gas

[umbral oasis]

Yeah, seems to be a pox gas, causes enemies to get those green eyes

[bleak gyro]

forgot to respond - I know the basics of how it works, its just the locations im struggling with

[wicked bluff]

query: What exactly is does the campaign encompass? Is it special singleplayer missions or just a bunch of co-op missions with different dialogue or something?
followup: If I skip it, can I go back and replay it later if I choose?

[patent jasper]

the campaign is every mission in canon order, you can still play online,
if you skip it you'll be forced to waste 50k ordo dockets and wipe your mind at kralls (dont have to change anything just gotta go through the menu), and you'll be given the option to go through it again.

[wicked bluff]

gotcha

[lime bison]

Is there a way to view enemy health bars in missions? I've seen it in some videos but am not sure if its a mod or something?

[shadow skiff]

Mod for PC, yes.

[lime bison]

ok

thank you

What is Havoc 40? I see it requested a lot in the lfg.

[vocal nacelle]

current "hardest" difficulty/mode

[lime bison]

thank you

[arctic cosmos]

Should I keep a weapon with the right "stats" (and upgrade it) that's a blue and at power level 80, or pickup a gold one at power level 500 from the store that's not got perfect "stats"

[keen oracle]

If you're getting power level 80 weapons, you must have a low level character. Better to wait to level 30 to get higher power weapons

But if you have spare melk bucks, you could always grab a gold one to keep you going

[arctic cosmos]

apologies, I meant Power level 380 ><

TyTy for answers @keen oracle - will do

[keen oracle]

Grab one with the optimal stats then

Eventually you'll have resources for days

[arctic cosmos]

TyTy, will do and will do a bit of grinding to get the resources to upgrade

Haha, I look forward to that

Sorry for asking again - but whats the best use of weapons that I get from drops but don't need / use (e.g. I'm using staff and get autoguns)

[keen oracle]

If you have no use for them whatsoever you can either sell for resources or sacrifice them at hadrons to level weapon mastery

[arctic cosmos]

TyTy again @keen oracle - have a good day ❤️

[frank dust]

Hello. I wanted to know if different attack animations deal different demage? Weapon in question is knife. I've been trying out both marks and while mark3 is great at horde clearing with heavy cleave animation, I can't help but to feel like mark6 heavy stab animation works better on heavy single targets. Is this how it actually works or am I imagining things?

[limber thicket]

they do

[smoky ember]

yes, you can view attack breakdowns if you inspect the weapon in your inventory

different attacks have different damage, armor damage values, cleave, stagger, and finesse (weakspot and crit damage)

you cant see cleave in the attack breakdowns, but you can see damage against all armor types, and weakspot and crit damage

there are also stagger values there, but they arent very accurate

usually its pretty intuitive

if an attack has low cleave, and/or is an uppercut or downwards attack

its usually a single target attack

while if it comes more from a horizontal angle, its usually meant for cleave and horde clear

[modest marten]

any idea why my flawless execution is not counting up? ive played like 6 missions now without anyone getting downed but its not counting

or does rolling steel does not count towards flawless execution since its an operation and not a mission

[little coyote]

that could be it

[modest marten]

that would be so whack

[smoky ember]

it should count

it counts for every other penance

[modest marten]

oh bruh. i just realised i was playing on uprising to grind some "dream team"

now i know why that penance didnt track

[drowsy haven]

https://i.imgur.com/pq6zSAj.png

Is this worth upgrading to legendary?

[craggy minnow]

Nah
Its not perfect and the base stats are so low you'll spend a ton of resources bringing it up to 500

Idk what your resource wallet or mastery situations are like but its probably worth fishing for a perfect roll at or near level 30

Then you can skip like, 30 rounds of empower lol

[drowsy haven]

@craggy minnow Cheers ty

[craggy minnow]

Yeah unless you've already got a lot of weapons maxing that one out is going to cost more than you want to pay probably

Also at 30 it seems like i usually only need to roll like 5-10 brunt buys to get a perfect 60 potential in the dump stat

Weird knock on effect of how empower and potentials work, since empower adds stats evenly until they start maxing out if the raw stats roll with one stat at least 20 lower than all the others it will always be a 60 potential

As a result perfect potentials are actually a lot more likely than they feel like they should be

Its also increasingly rare to have fewer 80s, i've only ever rolled a few weapons with no 80 potentials

Some of my prized weapons along with things that have a 0 in a key stat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1401370346816405524/image.png?ex=68920196&is=6890b016&hm=f4c7dd7138d7a88d4c17e169136067d7e3ff70405107c9ad4dcd4a8142928cbe&

Safety flamer my beloved

[charred sierra]

Is this where I could ask someone to assist me with the "Just a flesh wound" penance?

[lone adder]

Here or #vox-lfg-lexicanum would work

[rare shadow]

game makes u feel like a space marine unlike space marine 2

[arctic cosmos]

I've tried googling it to no avail - How does one get the "Dedicated Adept" title?

[keen oracle]

It's a reward from Hestias blessings. You progress these by completing penances

[arctic cosmos]

TyTy just found it

Reach a Total mastery of 200, bloody hell

[keen oracle]

Only 10 weapons fully levelled, EZ

[wheat night]

An easy trick to gain mastery is to buy a grey weapon of the mastery you want; upgrade it to green and sacrifice it for mastery gain at Hadron. (Sacrifying the same weapon as the mastery you pick for the progression nets more progression)

[frank dust]

Hey. Do all enemies have some sort of armor? And if some dont, does rending become useless?

[graceful raptor]

flac, carapace - for these rending and brittleness works the best

for unyielding also works, i dont know how good sorry

on maniac also works

[graceful raptor]

also it literally says what type of armor the enemy has when you hit its part in the psykhanium, duh

[rigid wasp]

Some enemies also have different armor types across their body, like the mauler having a carapace helmet and a flak armour

[frank dust]

I was wondering if two blessings for rending is a bit excessive

Like uncanny strike and ruthless backstab

[fickle ether]

I wouldnt stack 2 rending blessings. And ruthless backstab unless your doing a backstab book build on zealot I dont ever recommend that blessing

[void forge]

Rending has a hard cap at 100%, and ruthless backstab is just a bad blessing in general

[void forge]

Rending and brittleness don't work on unarmored and infested enemies

Everything else rending will have some effect on

[rancid raft]

If I was in a mission and there was a horde coming from both in front and behind, is it better to attack the enemies behind, or should I just ignore them and focus on the horde in front, then run to the next mission objective as soon as possible?

[clear plume]

kill the enemies that are the most dangerous 1st

running away is never a good solution, it creates bad mindsets

kiting is another thing

[rancid raft]

Whenever there is a horde coming from multiple sides, the rest of the squad focus on the horde in front and run away, leaving me behind to deal with the other enemies because I can’t just turn and run from enemies like ragers. So I assumed I was doing something wrong by attacking the enemies behind.

[clear plume]

there is 2 ways to think about it

1: To win the mission you just need to complete the objective

2: This is a horde game, centered around fighting horde

if you want to fight the horde and have fun go for it, but rushing objectives does complete missions faster and is usually the only thing people think about

[rancid raft]

if I was on high havoc level missions, are my teammates in the wrong for running to the next objective and leaving me behind while I’m fighting a horde alone?
Or am I in the wrong for fighting that horde to begin with instead of just running ahead with them?

[clear plume]

alot of variables can change the answer, but if its just trash horde (poxwalkers) and there is no active threat, ritual/boss/special rush, then leaving the trash is fine

if its a mixed horde

one with elites in it, best to clear them out

[rancid raft]

Okay, thanks.

[limpid thunder]

So I’m new to the game and just came across a curios that says +1 Wound(s)
What does that mean exactly? What’s a wound?

[rancid raft]

Your healthbar is split into segments, each one of those segments is a wound.
When you are downed and picked up by a teammate, one of your wounds will become corruption. and once you have no more wounds left, you will immediately die instead of being downed.
If you have more wounds, then you can be downed more times before immediately dying.

[limpid thunder]

Oh okay
Thanks

[rancid raft]

Having more wounds can also benefit you if you take certain talents as a zealot.
But that’s all that they do as far as I know.

[edgy onyx]

Do you still need help getting it? I'm available to assist.

[charred sierra]

I nabbed. Thank you

[wheat night]

High havoc spawns more boss as you progress

Usually backing a bit when a boss spawns is safe to avoid spawning more or triggering rituals

[prisma jungle]

is there a "best way" to get diamantine?

[limber thicket]

Havoc

[prisma jungle]

I Will Surely Play Havoc with 300-350 ranked gear

the ol' quickplay special

[limber thicket]

if you're lvl 30 and have 300-350 gear, you can easily do Havoc 10

maybe 15

that's already some "free" diamantine every week

Havoc 10 is like Heresy, maybe even easier

[prisma jungle]

im still not nearly confident enough to do havocs

[wheat night]

It's not that bad

Especially sub 10-15

Otherwise you can practice auric maelstroms

[shell shoal]

yeah up to 20 havoc is pretty easy

[inland lichen]

Any particular class or strat this relatively easier to do with? Is it possible to farm this by running around a reaper in circles?

[graceful raptor]

veteran, with perk that gives stamina on bullet dodging

and yes on second question iirc

[shadow skiff]

4 Zealots with swift certainty. Mostly so bots don't kill the reaper.

[vernal plaza]

Duck n dive doesnt work on gunner salvo iirc

[graceful raptor]

do you mean if i will start running around the reaped with with perk, i will die?

and what "salvo" are you even talking about

he needs to dodge 500 bullets

[inland lichen]

Hear me out: What if the next event just featured nothing but ranged enemies, so instead of seeing 20 crushers crammed into a tight hallway like with the current ongoing event, it's 20 reapers

[keen oracle]

Never cook again

[inland lichen]

If you want it to be extra funny, make it a lights out mission

And embrace the lazer tag

I swear the only thing the current event is good for are crusher kill penances

[vernal plaza]

Dodging gunners give no stamina regen with that talent, same with zealot 15% toughness on dodge

Typed half of it, got a call, forgot to finish and send

[graceful raptor]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/16018008138232499226/0C4FF3DD146E6B4E312AC78C6C5C745B3EEC85C3/

"Dodging gunners give no stamina regen with that talent, same with zealot 15% toughness on dodge"
what kind of trolling message is that anyway

[graceful raptor]

also you can see how the perk works here

just run at 90 degree angle and it will work

[vernal plaza]

Ok im wrong

[craggy minnow]

I swear to god that penance for sprint dodging reaper shots will be the last one i finish

I could probably bang it out with a party but most of them i just let happen

But when am i running perpendicular to a reaper outside cover??

Im usually sliding at them, you know, to kill them

[limber thicket]

it'll complete itself eventually

I'm at 400/500 I think after 300h

[smoky ember]

lol even after 1000 hours i still had to farm the last 200 shots

[smoky ember]

zealot with swift certainty, or vet with duck n dive and a stripped down gun

make it a lot easier

[craggy minnow]

That + 3 people that won't kill the reaper lol

But im talking about playing the game to win being largely contrary to progressing the penance

It breaks the ABC rule

Always Be Crusading

[sturdy vapor]

No the last one will be killing a million

[craggy minnow]

nah im more than halfway there and im less than halfway on dodging reaper shots lol

its just how i play

you'll never progress the penance if you run AT the reapers

[gray quarry]

dumb question, for the "Reach clearance level 25"
what does clearance level really mean? I know its havoc related but, is it just play 25 successful missions?

[clear plume]

basically yes

clearance is your highest havoc beaten

iirc

[gray quarry]

so if I joined a havoc 25 public party and we succeeded I would finish the penance

[craggy minnow]

you can only advance your clearance by up to 3 per mission depending on how high the mission level is relative to your clearance

theres a table of how the numbers work

[clear plume]

I think so yes

[craggy minnow]

but you'd need to play at least 6 games i think (7 if you dont start at clearance 1 i dont remember)

[gray quarry]

ah gotcha

[craggy minnow]

when you win a havoc mission:

A gap between 6 and 9 gives an increase of (2) Clearance Levels.
A gap greater than or equal to 10 gives an increase of (3) Clearance Levels.```

[fickle ether]

You should get the penance but your rank wont be 25 since that goes based off the highest you beat aka clearance level

Didnt word that the best... The penance arent based off your rank only the highest you beat

[gray quarry]

Thank you all for clarifying that

[craggy minnow]

good ol fatshark actively incorrect tooltip lol

[limber thicket]

I think that's rank, not clearance

[craggy minnow]

your havoc rank is your clearance level

i copied that directly from playdarktide.com

[velvet fulcrum]

What's up with the Chain axe's heavy/strikedown doing less damage to carapace than the light/relentless?

[gusty badger]

tried experimenting on my own with the stub revolver but whats peoples go to Blessings and Refinements on it to one shot Elites.

[graceful raptor]

Which mark

Green one?

[vocal nacelle]

Surgical, hand cannon

Also which revolver mark you talking about

[gusty badger]

uhh, i use the second one, sorry cant remember all the marks. aside from like the stats of how the other has more dmg over the other

[smoky ember]

was right click aim or brace

there’s the zarona and the agripinna, zarona has ADS, agri has brace

the zarona deals more damage but shoots and reloads slower, and has less ammo

agri braces, so shoots faster by fanning the hammer, but with worse ADMs against carapace, and reloads via speed loader and has more ammo

[stoic locust]

It does however have 176% damage versus unyielding

[gusty badger]

whats ADS 🤣

[lone adder]

Aiming Down Sights

Are you looking through the iron sights or are you just bracing with the weapon?

[gusty badger]

I miss less aiming down sights so I do that more I suppose

[lone adder]

No no, I mean if you're pressing RMB (assuming you're using mouse and keyboard, left trigger if controller), do you brace or look down the iron sight?

That would determine what sort of mark you got and what sort of blessings are good for it

[gusty badger]

Oh, I mean, cant you aim down sights on both of them tho?

[vernal plaza]

One is bracing
Do you reload the ammo 1 by 1 or reload the entire magazine at once

[lone adder]

Bracing in this case means that your character simply brings the gun closer to the screen and braces for any sort of recoil the gun is about to do. In this case, one mark has the character's left hand over the hammer, as if ready to fan it

[vocal nacelle]

the fanning revolver or the aiming one

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-fanning-revolver-gif-22148658

^fanning agripina

[rancid raft]

Do trappers take less damage if you hit their gun when shooting them? I just had a trapper survive a critical hit from an achlys mkII heavy stubber, which is usually a one-shot on auric.
There was also a ricochet sound effect when I shot them, and I don’t remember trappers having carapace armor.

the only explanation that I can think of is that I shot their gun instead of their body and it reduced the damage that they took, but I have never had that happen with any other enemy type.

There were no other enemies nearby, it was just the trapper

[void forge]

Could have just been a desync. Did you see the hit marker?

[rancid raft]

I saw the hit marker, and the trapper was staggered by the shot

Do trappers have armor on any part of their body? I could have just hit that

[void forge]

Hmm, were they somewhat far? Distance from the target can affect damage

Trappers are fully maniac, you can't hit their weapon either

[rancid raft]

I wouldn’t say they were too far, but it could have been.

What confused me is that I heard a sound effect similar to hitting carapace armour when I shot them

[void forge]

Was the hit marker blue? That indicates hitting armor

The sound effect could have been the Crit sound

[rancid raft]

Nevermind, I recorded it happening earlier, and after checking it a few times. the sound effect that I heard was from firing the last shot in my clip, which makes a different sound effect.

I still don’t know why it survived the shot, but it was probably the range

[void forge]

Probably, damage falloff starts around 12.5m for most weapons iirc

[rancid raft]

Im testing it in the meat grinder, and occasionally my shots will deal half of the usual damage or maybe less when I’m shooting the body.

[rancid raft]

I think I might have shot the trappers hand which seems to do less damage

Shooting their hand, it can survive a crit even on heresy difficulty

And their feet

I have never noticed this until now

[void forge]

Yeah, there is a .5x multi for ranged against certain body parts

[rancid raft]

I will just start aiming for the head when shooting trappers, because their hands are usually in front of their torso

[plush mulch]

When calculating crit chance against hordes. Is it per swing of a weapon or is each individual entity getting its own calculation m?

[limber thicket]

per swing

you can crit while hitting air

[plush mulch]

Does this activate talents?

[limber thicket]

yes

well, actually, I don't know if all of them work

[plush mulch]

So if I charge as a zealot and swing at the air I’m getting the 50% damage reduction from critting?

[limber thicket]

pretty sure the Las crit ammo refund on Vet works, but Psyker empathetic evasion doesn't

[plush mulch]

Got it. Thanks.

[limber thicket]

what is this talent?

[plush mulch]

I might be misremembering

One sec

Enduring Faith

Is the name of the talent. Right side top of the tree just before throwing knife

[limber thicket]

no, enduring faith requires hitting an enemy

[plush mulch]

Usually isn’t a problem with charge anyways but was just curious. Thanks.

[cloud adder]

so, on crit, the weapon does heat up faster?

[hasty valley]

what is the fastest way to grind diamantine?

[zealous dome]

Nope
Tooltip error

[cloud adder]

but of course, so its -50% heat..
thanks

[craggy minnow]

Fatshark tooltip

[vocal nacelle]

Havoc

[edgy onyx]

Is it normal for people to join your Havoc party and then immediately try playing their own mission instead of the one you made the group for? Cause it's happened twice today.

[vocal nacelle]

Same rank or lower rank?

[edgy onyx]

they had a clearance level same or one below mine, but then posted a level 4 assignment.

I was doing a 21

It was... odd

[clear plume]

I host 40s and people join and send their havoc 1

It's a very funny

[vocal nacelle]

prob newbie

[main plinth]

Hi so I’m new to dark tide and I was wondering why is my frame rate capped at 60fps

It’s on unlimited in the settings

[smoky ember]

i think it’s capped in the menus and maybe in the mourningstar

so if it’s in those, try going into the psykanium and trying it out in there

if not, try updating drivers, checking monitor settings

[main plinth]

I put my settings on low and messed with a bunch of settings and I’m getting 120fps+ now

[warm anvil]

how to do the "circle" minigame in the mission where you have to destroy the nurgle tree?

[keen oracle]

Move the dot around until you get one that turns white, then click it. Do this 3 times

[warm anvil]

ok

[fickle ether]

It also doesnt get changed if you get knocked out if it. It'll keep the white circles in the same spot till you complete it

[edgy onyx]

Yeah maybe, I'm a newbie to Havoc myself tbh, but when I was clearance level 4 I didn't join assignment 20-21 groups.

I only started joining groups a couple of levels above my current assignment when I reached the 15-19 kind of area.

And I only tried my first Havoc 40 yesterday, after some in a 23 group suggested it, I said I'm happy to try but I wasn't sure I was capable yet.

Did better than I thought I would, need to get better at using the meta builds before I try again.

[vocal nacelle]

Ogryn task not that hard on havoc, just do what you do usually

Whack & taunt

Throw nade occasionally

[edgy onyx]

Yeah the run was going fairly well, but then one person ran upstairs while we still had auspex stuff to do on the first level (phage tree map), and someone else followed them, I was trying to stick with the Psyker player who suggested the 40 in the first place who knew what they were doing, but between splitting up and having to regroup again it chipped away at people's health quite a bit.

The run failed, but it did feel like I was doing better than I thought I was and I was the 3rd to go down, even then it was to an unlucky burster putting me off some stairs.

[hasty valley]

for the arbites shock maul suppression shield, what combo should I use for horde clear? spam lights? or light 1 - light 2 - blockpush - light 1 - light 2 and loop it

when should I use heavies?

[shadow skiff]

Push l1 l2 push l1 l2. This is with the mark that bonks hordes with light horizontals for 1 and 2. Also assumes you go right for the push for more cleave.

[hasty valley]

how about bossing? and which mark is the best?

[shadow skiff]

I can't tell you. I think the other mark is more used by people. I just prefer handling crowds than bosses. Pretty sure if you wanna boss, you go arby shock maul instead.

[hasty valley]

yeah but in case there is a boss that needs to be hit and horde clearing isnt a priority, do you still do the light spam combo? or heaveis

[shadow skiff]

I just light spam for shields and everything, maybe check in arby mains for proper combos. Heavys will do the deimos thing and make things sit on the ground.

[nocturne mica]

Sorrry if this isn't the right place.

Was about to tryy modding for the first time... It's 100% absolutely safe right? I ain't trynna get banned just to have hp bars and a sight on my lasgun

[keen oracle]

Most of the Nexus mods are approved by Fatshark, you'll be fine, just use some caution on the newer ones, just in case

[polar forum]

none of them lol

the shield has terrible, absolutely terrible boss dps

i hope you brought a gun that can deal with bosses

[void forge]

All the mods on Nexus follow farsharks modding policies, so you should not have any actions taken against your account

[flat hull]

everytime i install on linux, on the second boot i crash. i must change a setting in the regular options no mods that bricks it. crashes my pc

any thoughts on what it could be, from ful lscreen or something

[void forge]

do you get a crash report?

[warm anvil]

Does the Curios reward perk stacks??

[clear plume]

yes

[warm anvil]

so if i have 3 that mean i have 60% right?

[clear plume]

yup

[flat hull]

i do not thats the sad part. it just freezes and i have to shut off manually

[tender sand]

I was wondering: when rending/brittleness is helpful, and when it's not? Is there a rule of thumb? Is it helpful against anything with obvious armor, like flak or carapace? Or only carapace? What about Unyielding mobs, do they have any armor that you can reduce by stacking brittleness on them? Like on bosses?

And I would assume it has zero effect on unarmored mobs, no?

[limber thicket]

inspect your weapons and see how much damage they do to different armor types
if it's doing half of the normal damage to carapace - that's where rending\brittle will be useful
and so on

[tender sand]

And what about maniacs btw? Can you reduce their armor?

[craggy minnow]

Yeah

Im trying to remember the exact formula

But rending and brittleness both make you do some amount of damage in between your damage to that armor type and your damage to unarmored

So it works on flak, maniac, unyielding too if your weapon is bad for that type

I think its like brittleness 40 makes you do target type damage + 40% of the difference between target type damage and unarmored damage

[normal sable]

is it normal to get an insane amount of boss enemies on Auric Mortis Trials

This game I am playing since Wave 9 we've been getting waves of min 10 monstrosities

[fast urchin]

Yeah

[normal sable]

the boss damage doenst feel like it adds up but we were going up against like 4 plague ogryns and 4 BoNs at once and when that wave was dead another 8 split would come

[fast urchin]

It's good to take boss dmg tools into mortis trials

[normal sable]

yeah we did okay with it

i just dont really play mortis and have never seen anything like that LOL

[fast urchin]

Yep, it seems like a lot but its very doable with all the buffs you get

Mortis trials gives you tonnes of buffs, it's pretty doable, main ways I've seen it fail is people get trapped by net or split up for too long

[normal sable]

No no we won

[fast urchin]

Oh and also plogryns knock people off the edge

[normal sable]

It wasn't bad I just wasn't sure if that many monstrosities were supposed to be spawning

[fast urchin]

But apart from those it's usually cleared

[normal sable]

or eaten

[fast urchin]

Yeah there's a couple of waves where like 4 spawn at a time

[normal sable]

maybe 2 chaos spawns during those last 3 waves

[fast urchin]

And then more

[normal sable]

no dude it was way more than that

like we were fighting maybe 5-6 monstrosities on the arena

this was the best screenshot i could get during it and my second teammate out of coherency was fighting another two

he was getting grabbed by CS and eaten by beast

[rigid wasp]

Rending works on flak, carapace, maniac and unyielding, which leaves out unarmored and infested. It reduces the damage penalty you have up to 100%, and when going past 100% it'll convert into damage at a 4:1 ratio

So if you deal 50% damage against carapace and get 70% rending, you deal 100% damage against carapace and the remaining 20% rending is converted into 5% damage

[tender sand]

that's really useful, thanks

[rigid wasp]

🤝

[tame quiver]

do the blessings from weapon mastery all apply to that weapon, or do I have the pick the specific one I want at the re-bless station

[clear plume]

You still can only have 2 blessings on a fully leveled weapon

[tame quiver]

you somehow mad me more confused

[clear plume]

Weapons can have only 2 active blessings

Better?

[smoky ember]

only 2 of the blessings you unlock in the blessing menu can be applied to a weapon at a time, which can be changed by reblessing at hadron

[clear plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254462562003714239/1402730193226829854/RDT_20250803_172855.mp4?ex=68979ccb&is=68964b4b&hm=4f1103ceb5c44f318990bba092920b278df2ac139c404eec4adfdc54ac95a73f&

You and watermelon

[smoky ember]

maayyybeee

i just ate some fried pekoras

however it’s spelled

at a nice restaurant

and a really nice steak

i’m so full,,,,

[clear plume]

How dare you

[smoky ember]

LMAO

no

it was this

[clear plume]

Looks like avocados and fries

Looks good

[smoky ember]

it’s squash, swiss chard, onion, chives, and a few other things

fried in chickpea batter

and tomato chutney

[tame quiver]

thank you

[smoky ember]

yah of course

[smoky ember]

same applies with perks by the way, but you unlock higher level perks as you level the weapon

[cedar frost]

Any tips for getting the Fleeting Memories penance?

[zealous dome]

Which one is that?

Mortis Trials?

About the memories?

[cedar frost]

Yeah, under 25 minutes

[zealous dome]

Well it's rng

Oh that

[cedar frost]

Not the memories one

[zealous dome]

Well get ready for the waves 3 6 and 9 iirc

Where you have to go do an objective

And move around the map spawn points

[cedar frost]

TY

[shadow skiff]

Also, have a zealot try to clean up end of waves fast.

[sinful summit]

also adding on with an additional thing about it that rarely ever matters
rending/brittleness has a combined cap of 100%, thats the maximum you can have and see an effect from, even the 4:1 ratio, anything beyond that wont do anything

though this is irrelevant most of the time cuz lots of sources dont stack up that high when all put together (except you, uncanny strike, which literally goes 20% above the cap on its own, functionally doing nothing with that extra 20% holy shit this blessing is stupid)

[raw yacht]

Does anyone have any suggestion to reduce the visual clutters and effects? Both from the team and from the enemies. I just started playing Auric and to me feels like half the time my visuals are blocked either by fire, pox gas, explosions of an Ogryn or flames from a psyker.

I am starting to get annoyed by it. It's not even that i am losing, quite the opposite. It just feels like the best way to play is just spamming dodge and slide and praying the emperor since you can't see shit about what is hapening. Playing the new event on auric just brings the visual clutter to 10000. Yesterday i was playing with some dudes and i asked "guys i don't see shit with all this green, explosions and stuff, what can i do?" and the answer was "We can't see shit either". Is this considered "hard gameplay"? Feels like the best way to play is pick up as much aoe damage and stagger as you can, as much toughness regeneration as you can and just pray the emperor that nothing really harmful hits you in the insane visual clutter.

You really just gotta pay attention to disablers, burster and not stand on shit. It feels so bad playing any melee weapon or ranged weapon that requires any kind of precision or finesse while playing unga bunga weapons feels insanely powerful since you don't give a shit about the visual clutter.

I come from Vermintide 2 and even on DWONS i had no problem seeing stuff after some tweaking in the options. In DT seems like even tho i removed so many effects and stuff i still can't see shit

[graceful raptor]

ears

and situational awareness

and timings

and expirience

i noticed myself that when i get into situations that you just described i just dont stress at all

its just knowing how the game works

you'll get there

[raw yacht]

The point i was trying to make is: why should anyone try to play any kind of build/weapons that require finesse when the chaotic nature of the game promotes spamming? Like the gameplay i have on my Ogryn is like day and night with the gameplay i have on zealot or vet

I am playing all 3 of em on Auric

[graceful raptor]

for fun?

sorry i maybe dont really follow

and with weapons that dont require finess you can get rending, like with veteran and his perk +10% rending to all weapons

works good with devil claw

[raw yacht]

I think i was not clear. What i am trying to say is that i feel like that the game promotes spamming and abusing some way too strong and easy to use mechanics while other are ineherently hard or feel bad to use due to the insane visual clutter, not really due to the fact that they are bad in game

[graceful raptor]

i would understand if your rant was about havoc tho

[raw yacht]

If i could just remove explosions from teammates for example i feel like it would not feel as bad

[keen flume]

It really does come from situational awareness, while the game does throw bullshit sometimes that the players can't see or hear (blaming on the game engine and audio mixing) it all goes to how much skill you gain no matter how visually clustered the game becomes you still got your ears and what's left of your screen

Though there are mods that can slightly improve the experience if you think the vanilla game and is visuals can be distracting

[graceful raptor]

so i guess this is just...

https://tenor.com/view/nfs-need-for-speed-nfs-carbon-need-for-speed-carbon-cutscene-gif-27586810

[keen flume]

Honestly I felt the same way but gaining hundreds of hours, I managed to be clear of what I am seeing and not panicking most of the time while playing higher diffs

[graceful raptor]

^

[keen flume]

Not counting havoc because I don't play and too much stress

[raw yacht]

So you are saying that with time the insane visual clutter i am seeing will stop being visual clutter?

[graceful raptor]

yesterday i was playing vet, and i was surrounded by fucking everything in the game, and i was just staring at one angle - listening for specials

[keen flume]

Learn the enemies audio cues from all types, lessers, elites and specials, their telegraphed attacks like grunt noises of winding up heavy attacks of overheads

[graceful raptor]

netgunner laugh BAM BAM BAM MY REVOLVER BLASTING AT HER

ultrainstincts

[keen flume]

Sometimes if the game director is not being too silly
I can still be bad the game for not paying too much attention or forgot

[graceful raptor]

everything will turn into information

[keen flume]

Or get carried away

[graceful raptor]

you're just not used to every single voiceline or sound enemies do or say

for example

tell me

how does sniper sound

[keen flume]

Hey the first times I faced a crusher patrol of 4 i would shit my pants every time I see them

[raw yacht]

I see, Well at least knowing that with time this feeling of too much chaos will go away makes me feel a little better.

Probably i got annoyed by it cause on vermintide i just don't have this feeling. I have 1k hours there. Maybe it's just getting used to it

Ty

[graceful raptor]

i had rough transition from VT2 as well

[keen flume]

Same to me even though I only played for 60 hours

Darktide feels much different for when you started at VT2 because how much shit can happen

Have 5-6 specials throw at you with mixed hordes of elites while you still facing two bosses

[vocal nacelle]

are you on PC? use mods

[limber thicket]

there's much less visual clutter in vt2

unless you have sienna on your team

but mods are very extensive for DT, look through the nexus page
Remove Screen Effects mod helps

[raw yacht]

I Will check It out ty

[craggy minnow]

Plus the more you play the game the less time you'll spend in the effects (psykers will spend a lot less time cooking you for example)

[daring osprey]

Use spider sense cheat mod is op

[tender sand]

does Block Efficiency curios perk also enhance your pushes' stamina consumption?

[gusty whale]

no

[warm anvil]

Lvl 30 Damnation and they don't know how to cover me when i'm doing the "white dot" mini game lol they just stay behind with their medkit and meat grinding the infinite horde lol after that they chat up "?" after all are dead XD . I am beyond angry i just find this soooo dumb . And how to have better team mates ? Some of them don't even know how to do the mini game

[limber thicket]

stop playing damnation

damnation is the hardest difficulty cmv

[warm anvil]

Damnation or Auric is not the problem for me. I am used to it but the things is that players i dealt with does not know how this game really work. Some of them does not even know that you can not out run or "ignore" the mini boss the stages will not let you through. Yet they still do it then got mauled in the elevator. They are all 100 plus levl (i use true level) which mean they should have had experiences.

[warm anvil]

for me it's just block the front vision and distract me from what is up ahead.

[limber thicket]

if they're lvl 100 and playing Damnation - they're not good players

stop playing damnation

Auric\Mael is usually better quality

[warm anvil]

damn.... i must suffer more to unlock Auric and by quality you ment players right since it is true when playing Auric

[limber thicket]

oh you're stuck there

rip then

I was malding when I was unlocking auric in damnation on my alts

[warm anvil]

T_T

[keen flume]

One good thing about the phage tree mini game is that the path will always be the same whenever you drop or get hit so if you already made some progress each phase you will know what they were if you got hit

Either way trusting teammates on the phage tree is a 50/50 that they stand fighting somewhere else or just don't wanna bother do the mini game

[warm anvil]

yes i could done it if there isn't like 6 billion zombies

[keen flume]

It is better sometimes to clear out enemies before proceeding but I think that the spawns are endless in that section

I always go for defense if I see a teammate doing it, keep pushing and taking the hits and since I play Ogryn he can't be interrupted while doing the auspex unless toughness broke

[warm anvil]

yah that is the point no one was covering me they just stick to the medkit near the exit door

[keen flume]

Open for gunner patrols just smart move

[torpid summit]

Any tips for playing auric?

[keen flume]

Keep playing on damnation or other diffs until you have enough confidence, skills and reactions to face Auric

[wheat night]

Just play 'em and don't worry if you get carried. Learn priority targets and stay in cohesion

[torpid summit]

I’ve not tried auric yet… What’s the main difference between it and damnation?

[limber thicket]

more stuff

[keen flume]

Same enemy stats from damage and health from damnation but higher spawn rates

And auric has now built in high intensity modifier

[torpid summit]

Heh…. Sounds like fun.

[keen flume]

It fun time and really my main and only difficulty i play

[torpid summit]

I occasionally play damnation, but I’m mostly playing with my friends who are starting to stretch up to heresy

I can do heresy without a non disabling down pretty regularly.

[keen flume]

Auric also has some modifers tied to the difficulty only

[torpid summit]

Oh?

[keen flume]

If you play auric with high intensity modifier active on rotation, it becomes the craziest game ever

As it has two high intensity modifiers on, so double the enemy spawns more

[wheat night]

More horde intensity plus mods depending on what's up at the moment. Don't be afraid to make the jump between damnarion and aurics. Once you get used to auric intensity you'll find damnation and lower boring

You'll also find bigger specialists/elites packs

[torpid summit]

I often feel like there aren’t enough enemies on heresy and below….

I do worry I’m going to struggle to get my friends past damnation. They like to shoot through hordes with las guns.

[wheat night]

That's because there AREN'T enough enemies on those diffs.

[wheat night]

You can have good shooting builds that hold up

Or one good frontliner

[torpid summit]

I like playing relic zealot

[wheat night]

I'm a simple man. I smack.

[torpid summit]

Sword for all problems within sword range.

Bolt pistol for all other problems

[torpid summit]

What advice should I give to my friends who play recon veteran and “get left behind and surrounded because they were shooting a horde”

[torpid summit]

I pinged them, but it’s an open question. I don’t like leaning on shooting like that generally, so I’m not sure how to help them

[balmy moat]

do they usually go down as a result? from what ive seen here, a tough love approach might work faster (let them die and pick them up later), though i've not had enough experience to say if that'll work or not

i just know thats usually how players would deal with someone who seems to be intentionally lagging behind in public games

[gusty whale]

1. keep up 2. learn what melee is
   that's my two cents

reconlas is mobile anyway

[torpid summit]

They tend to stop, try to clear the horde and either get over run, or just very separated

And then get annoyed they were left behind

[gusty whale]

separated from each other? while doing the same thing?

enlighten them with a melee setup that can clear hordes

[torpid summit]

They aren’t always both playing

[gusty whale]

show them how they can defend themselves

[torpid summit]

I’ve tried. They keep going back to “gun build”

What melee weapons should vet be using?

They’ve been using dueling sword

[gusty whale]

i'm always in favor of power sword

dueling sword is ok if with frags

but honestly if they have dueling sword and getting left behind that is entirely on them

2nd most mobile weapon in the game

second only to knife

[balmy moat]

^ "if you go through the day and meet one asshole, they're the asshole. if every person you meet is an asshole (the other 3 squad members), you're the asshole".

if they're "left behind" by everyone else, thats on them

[gusty whale]

at that point it just means they are planting their feet with a setup that is not conducive to planting their feet

[balmy moat]

if one person rushes ahead and gets stuck, thts on them

since i'm here, btw, is playing with one other person and 2 bots a reason heresy seems hard or is it just a skill issue? (spouse and i play together, and would prefer to get better on our own rather than being carried through in public lobbies)

[main lily]

probably both

[keen oracle]

Plenty of Heresy players will not carry you. Trust me on that

[main lily]

too true. I just recently got up to damnation/auric and it's night and day

[balmy moat]

tbh anything might be better than the bots if thats the case. you cant communicate to bots that its not time to crouchwalk up the stairs, or they need to leave the elevator

[keen oracle]

But the game is meant to be played with 4, heresy is plenty doable in a duo if your skills are up to it

Bots are absolutely worthless outside of the occasional revive

[balmy moat]

ye i may or may not have a desire to fling them off every cliff

[keen oracle]

I've watched them steal my medicae before lol

[balmy moat]

SAME

its so bad

i sit with 30 hp while they fight though the biggest horde ive seen them fight, to get their 1 corrupted wound healed, then they die afterwards

tbh though it could be worse, not getting hit is a good skill for a psyker to have, but, still

jerk move

and mortis trial with bots is a nightmare

[torpid summit]

I can basically solo heresy outside of objectives and mistakes with disables

I don’t think I’m particularly good at the game

[balmy moat]

with solo, at least the bots lagging behind doesnt slow you down, and you wont feel bad for them being nurglebait, but when it's your spouse and 2 bots its definitely a challenge to stay in coherency

but, its good to know its mainly just a skill problem, and we aren't "locked" in malice so to speak, mainly what i was looking for

[torpid summit]

So, what should they be running if they want to stand and fight?

[limber thicket]

tell them they have a melee weapon

and this is a melee focused game

[torpid summit]

Any other ideas?

[limber thicket]

teach them shredder spam
Demolition Team + Demolition Stockpile

underhand throw 2 shredders and the horde is gone

[torpid summit]

Ahhh

[molten quail]

anyone willing to help a poor soul with the flesh wound penance for zealot?

[tepid mirage]

Anybody know why my fps is so bad? This was my first match on darktide in like a month or so, I got a high spec PC, every other game I play runs completely smoothly but for some reason darktide, even WITH framegen is only spotting me like.. 46 fps consistently with dips to like 20, anybody got any input? like any graphics settings i should be pointing out?

[fast urchin]

Also does anyone know what Nvidia reflex does and if it's good

[vocal nacelle]

thats an easy fix

just play the current rotten armor + shock troop

[rigid wasp]

Try this one https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/fullscreen-optimisations-are-not-enabled-for-darktide-fix-included/103471

It helped me a bit

[tepid mirage]

could this be caused by disabling DSR on my nvidia 3d?

[rigid wasp]

Aside from that, you can try playing around with the worker threads setting on the launcher, going from default and slowly raising it

[tepid mirage]

I disabled it last night, and I'm wondering if this could be the problem

[rigid wasp]

I wouldn't know about Nvidia, unfortunately

[tepid mirage]

unlucky

[rigid wasp]

I did hear of some issues AMD's anti-lag setting in the control panel had with games, and at this point I just got so annoyed trying to minmax performance in the control panel of both AMD and Nvidia that I just run with default settings

[vocal nacelle]

that shouldnt have effect

it could be your current driver version

darktide is janky af new driver version could be the problem

[rigid wasp]

For example, AMD's chill gives me a blessed frametime, but introduces random frametime spikes that are worse than what I already get without chill

So I just keep chill disabled because at least my misery is consistent

[tepid mirage]

well I did update my driver to the newest version to play the bf6 beta so

maybeeee?

[vocal nacelle]

yea thats probably it

or darktide just building the shader cache

so first few mission gonna be laggy

and will fixed itself later

[rigid wasp]

Yeah, the shader cache can do that too

It's gonna be miserable, then stabilize

[main lily]

Is there a specific difficulty you have to beat a maelstrom mission on to unlock havoc?

[fervent relic]

No

[main lily]

k

I can open the terminal but the havoc gamemode seems to be locked.

[fervent relic]

You have to be level 30 also

[main lily]

I am level 30

I just beat a maelstrom mission just to be sure, but it didn't change anything

ah nvm figured it out. Needed to remove all filters

[polar forum]

#zealot-class

[gusty whale]

the most "stand and fight" melee is power sword

• VoC

if done right you can cut your way through just about anything

[torpid summit]

Makes sense as

[keen flume]

Downside is you always having to empower the sword everytime

[rigid wasp]

Thats ez, however once u get used to click r3 which is back button for me,then every other melee wep is becoming more difficult to use

[keen flume]

[raw yacht]

I am watching an havoc 40 gameplay of a knife zealot. 10 mins in the only thing he is doing is spamming m1 to farm crit to get back chorus asap and spamming chorus. Group is vet - flame psyker - rumbler ogryn. I think on the kill feed he has not killed a single elite, used a single push stab or a single heavy/move tech. Is this what should i expect from h40?

[stoic locust]

From yourself or randoms

[red ginkgo]

From zealots? Mostly yeah. At most maybe a dueling sword/relic blade zealot that kills stuff here and there.

[raw yacht]

I like to play zealot, but if this is what people will expect from me i don't think i even want to try and push havocs

[stoic locust]

Zealot is more effective as a elite mulcher but chorus bot is preferred because golden toughness is good

[red ginkgo]

Nothing's stopping you from running charge or (god forbid) stealth. It's just that the mission will be a little harder for you and your teammates without chorus

But like, if they don't care, it really doesn't matter. It's not mandatory to win. Far from it

[stoic locust]

A good FotF zealot is more effective in a well run team

Havoc pubs are anything but well run

[gusty whale]

what about a bad fotf zealot in a not well run team

[red ginkgo]

Just play hab drekyo rituals or somethin. Easiest havoc in rotation

[stoic locust]

Will eat shit and die then leave

[gusty whale]

drink piss and live

[vocal nacelle]

He's Kinda the golden toughness battery

But you can still do damage using relic blade tho

[torn cargo]

What's the best method to fill this quicker? Quickplays? special events / maelstroms?

[rigid wasp]

Wth is that 😲

[limber thicket]

looking out for Rolling Steel in theory (shortest mission)

in practice, that mission is almost guaranteed to fail on Damnation\Heresy unless you can solo it

[fast urchin]

Just keep playing qp heresy, it fills by 20 each time you complete a mission

[torn cargo]

Noted, thanks for the info.

What does ''Suppressed'' mean here exactly? Is it same with enemies being staggered? What's the main difference between Suppressed Enemies and Staggered Enemies?

[little coyote]

enemies suffer suppression when shot nearby or a suppressing ability is used

stagger requires hits

[torn cargo]

I see, thanks for clarifying.

[limber thicket]

you can only suppress certain ranged enemies

[little coyote]

and any chaff enemies

or poxwalkers might've been immune to it

but groaners certainly

[dapper shard]

Groaners aren’t immune to suppression, yeah

[prisma jungle]

why do people use Dumdum so much on the recon lasguns?

[fast urchin]

Free dmg

[prisma jungle]

..what classifies as "close range damage"?

5 meters? 10?

[limber thicket]

12.5(?)

[dapper shard]

12.5m to like… 30m?

The effect works in full up to 12.5m, then the effect starts falling off until 30m, and past 30m it doesn’t work at all

[dapper shard]

It’s just a decent blessing for weapons that fire a lot in short amount of time, especially since for most enemies you may need multiple shots landed in a row to kill them

[prisma jungle]

damn okay i had no fuckin clue "close range" meant "across the room"

that fucks

[craggy minnow]

painful but true

PUGs on the timed mission when you try and move forward

and then you get to the batteries part and they refuse to move backwards

[polar forum]

in addition to what everyone said... it buffs your burn damage

[clear plume]

Within 12.5 meters

Used to be 8 meters but since crafting update it's 12.5

[zealous dome]

100% efficiency up to 12.5m

Decays until 0% efficiency at 30m

Yeah very close

💀

[prisma jungle]

been actually using the recon in havocs, and holy shit lmao

the fact you can go from 80 peril to 10 in like a quarter of the mag (if you hit all headshots) is great

contender for the best fuckin' gun for scrier's

[zealous dome]

That would be the Vraks5

[prisma jungle]

fr? what makes it better than the recon?

[smoky ember]

better damage mainly

plenty of ammo and better damage

and the recoil is easy to control

[prisma jungle]

the recon has worse recoil?

i didnt even know it had recoil in the first place, huh

guess ill have to give v5 a go

[smoky ember]

the recoil that the vraks has, which is more than recon, is still negligible

it rises then just flattens out and goes horizontally back n forth

[prisma jungle]

ohh alright, i thought you meant the vraks had less recoil than recon lol

deffo giving it a go tmrw tho

[smoky ember]

on zealot u can kill a burgle in one mag with a super specific build

raking fire, dumdum, unyielding

and ambuscade, purge the unclean, anoint in blood, and i think either blazing piety or IJ

[prisma jungle]

god damn, so everyone's better at Gun than vet huh

that fuckin sucks lmao

[zealous dome]

Nah vet still goated

Executioner Stance still has the best gun buffs in the game

[smoky ember]

zealot is the worst gun class

it’s just a specific couple of buffs

and ambuscade is just bad otherwise

[smoky ember]

kid named scriers gaze,,

[zealous dome]

Lemme see

Hmm

Only CRIT chance, suppression immunity

And of course the ramping damage

Now let's look at Paul Allen's Executioner Stance

Reduced Spread
Immediate damage
Immediate Weakspot Damage
Reduced Recoil
Suppression Immunity
Higher Impact
Reduced Sway

Uninterruptible

Stun Immune

Slow Immune

[fast urchin]

Is there a video somewhere of someone using exec stance in h40

[zealous dome]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-card-shake-ii-ch2-gif-25887089

[smoky ember]

25% damage, 25% weakspot damage
vs
10% damage (up to 40%)
up to 30% finesse damage
20% crit chance
suppression immunity
and
applies to melee

[zealous dome]

Yeah not enough gun buffs

[smoky ember]

i’ve done it

with hellbore

it sucks,,

[fast urchin]

Yeah but

I need a video of someone actually using it so I see how they do it lol

Like how are you not getting hit in melee while chaining exec stance in h40

[smoky ember]

u activate it when there r enemies

[smoky ember]

if ur using a quick draw weapon, just switch to and fro

if ur not

ur kinda SOL

and u gotta hope ur team can keep the enemies off of u

[shadow skiff]

Melee casti is the funniest thing to do.

Wait, that was gaze. My bad.

[smoky ember]

silly goose,,

[shadow skiff]

Well, it still works. 80% DR to just run walk fast menacingly in heh.

[celest crow]

So, how do I skip unlocking the difficulty levels?

I have a level 30 zealot and 25 veteran from a year ago, and apparently I have to play 5x of each difficult or something to actually get the next?

I just want to start at heretic, not waste time doing the two easiest difficulties

[vocal nacelle]

Yes there's progress bar in the difficulty section

[celest crow]

...what?

I only have uprising, no others

[vocal nacelle]

speedrun uprising

[little coyote]

if you choose to skip the campaign it also skips the difficulty progression

[vocal nacelle]

didnt know this one

wait i skipped campaign when doing arbites

and still locked

[fast urchin]

Is mk 8 arby sniper shotgun maniac flak or maniac unyielding

[little coyote]

oh not for new characters

but existing 30 level ones

[vocal nacelle]

carapace / free

[fast urchin]

Also I'm using full bore and sustained on it

Why carapace

I don't think you're supposed to be shooting crushers with it are you

[vocal nacelle]

2 shotting crusher

it works for me

[celest crow]

Does not

[celest crow]

Confirmed does not

[little coyote]

Well it did for all my characters

were you level 30 before the update?

[vocal nacelle]

i mean this is probably the problem

[celest crow]

Yes

[vocal nacelle]

the game still tracked your previous completed difficulty

[celest crow]

I was level 30 in the first year, recently got back in

[vocal nacelle]

so if you skipped malice and went straight to heresy you get locked

also way before penance system

[little coyote]

ah this was in the patch notes
For existing characters, your difficulty progression will be migrated based on their character level and completed missions.

[celest crow]

I get the intention, but it's silly

It should have looked at max difficult already played

I skipped the first difficulty, so I'm punished

[little coyote]

I doubt the first difficulty matters at all, just the amount of missions completed on the higher difficulties

[vocal nacelle]

you can try LFG and get someone to host damnation

see if your progress went up

[little coyote]

but I do think it's slightly too strict as is, though I do like that it ensures that people at auric truly have played the game properly and should know how to play at that difficulty

[vocal nacelle]

or just speedrun the mission to unlock the progression

[celest crow]

No thanks

[celest crow]

If this is the solution, the system is broken

[celest crow]

Can't post pics for some reason, but I did 1 uprising for testing, and it says 20/100 for unlocking the next difficulty. Actual joke

[vocal nacelle]

sounds about right

[celest crow]

WHY THO

I"M LEVEL 30 AND DID DAMNATION BEFORE

[vocal nacelle]

Then try make a ticket and ask FS

#🎒support-issues

[winged marten]

so how do i know if a weapon is good? does Mk have anything to do with it? should i just get anything thats a higher mk value or by the power level thing?

most of my weapons are around mk2-6. if i have the ability to get a shovel that's mk XIX should i just get that no questions asked?

[celest crow]

I take it FS ain't here?

[winged marten]

is there a written guide or something here? I can read it if this is too over-asked of a question

[vocal nacelle]

Official forum is the way

[celest crow]

Too much effort. I'd rather uninstall

[vocal nacelle]

Not really, different marks have different moveset

[vocal nacelle]

#ogryn-class check the pin

[split obsidian]

hey hey, that's not fair, Paul Allen's stance is on a 45 second cooldown.

Van Patten's is only 30 seconds.

[leaden lion]

If I leave in the middle of the end elevator as last one alive, does my team still win?

[keen flume]

Yes

No wait, I might read it wrong
I think just as long the moment the scene plays you might be good

[torn cargo]

Constantly receiving Error 2001. Everything's flying around and the game kicks the player after some time passes.
Any common reason causing this to occur? It's extremely annoying.

[clear plume]

Iirc the instant you get the cinematic of game winning you are good. This is when you go out of 1st person

[leaden lion]

Damn. I’m basically trying to not win my h40 and still be able to give out h40 clears with archivum

I’ll just alt+f4 when I get the cutscene though and I’ll see if that works

[clear plume]

Just alt f4 after end event

If they die heading to the elevator so be it

It literally only spawns poxwalkers and maybe 1 special

[vocal nacelle]

Uh why?

[keen flume]

• plays Havoc 40
• Does not want to win Havoc 40

[fast urchin]

What perks on plasma gun

[cosmic sky]

Probs to keep the assignment to give out easy clears.

[nocturne mica]

I have a weapon that says 100% on all stats

uhhhh

it also says n/a on all the stat names

[vocal nacelle]

Bugged relog should fix it

[ocean kernel]

lads, whats the path for the shader cache?

just updated gpu driver and game is super slow so I think I just need to delete my cache

[frank dust]

Hey. Is there an initial crit chance or does it all come from talents, blessings and other add ons?

[void forge]

Base is 5%

Some weapons have higher Crit chance though

[limber thicket]

or lower

[frank dust]

I guess there is no point in trying to reduce my cd with lightning hammer build then

thanks

[void forge]

Yeah generally thammer builds don't go for Crit cdr

[limber thicket]

you still get what 25% extra flat crit from the left keystone?

[frank dust]

I want to build a tank with zealot. One that has many wounds, aura and deals impact. Hammer on it's own delivers decent dmg. Trying to figure out best talents

[void forge]

Usually "building tank" in this game is frowned upon

[limber thicket]

wounds don't make you tanky

[void forge]

Also this^

[frank dust]

I've been in situations where the whole team gets cornered so I can imagine why

But zealot has this talent which makes you tanky once wounds are gone

[void forge]

Martyrdom is not a tank talent though, and many people just skip the TDR node entirely

[limber thicket]

yes, but by taking wounds you don't take hp/toughness and walk at 30% HP

it's a tradeoff

[frank dust]

So wounds in general aint that good, considering only few talents corespond to them?

[void forge]

Yes.

It is planning for failure essentially

[frank dust]

In current build I go down to 2 wounds rather fast, but stay there quiete a while

[void forge]

Only take wounds with Marty, and even then you just stay at like 20% hp so does it really make you any tankier? No

[limber thicket]

it's basically one keystone on zealot

otherwise wounds = bad

[frank dust]

I've gotten the impression that hp means very little in general. Once thoughness is broken it's usually from 100 to 10

[limber thicket]

not at all

there are talents that impact HP damage resistance only

or both HP and toughness

[keen flume]

And with toughness damage resistance talents it will absorb more and deal less HP damage to you

Why can't we have a shield pulse like from captains when our toughness breaks that sends enemies backwards

[limber thicket]

I mean

ogryn, zealot and arby have similar talents

[void forge]

There are some talents like that yeah

The one beside Crit cdr that no one takes

For zealot

Although it's not really a pulse

[keen flume]

But me wanna see enemies sent flying

[final drift]

I'm not sure if weapon mastery is applied when I upgrade, or does it apply to blessings on them?

[limber thicket]

mastery unlocks blessings which you then put on a weapon

[final drift]

Gotcha

[sinful summit]

no

tdr is toughness only
dr is hp and toughness

theres no dr that only affects health and not toughness

[limber thicket]

yes, you're right. but there are talents that trigger DR from taking health damage or reduce health damage taken in some way

[polar forum]

Technically that’s just toughness

[rose hinge]

whats the usecase of slide dodge vs regular dodge vs regular slide?

[vocal nacelle]

• dodging melee / ranged with more distance (consume 2 dodge count)
• dodging melee / ranged consume (dodge count)
• dodging ranged attack (consuming stamina only)

[rose hinge]

yeah, but like, what kind of situations would warrant a dodge slide

[limber thicket]

funny move tech during book/castigator

[vocal nacelle]

if you have weapon with short dodge distance

or wanna avoid poxburster

[rose hinge]

maulers?

[limber thicket]

nets

[vocal nacelle]

TH, shield, pickaxe have low dist

[rose hinge]

usually normal dodge works but i can see this

oh so its better for ogryn?

[vocal nacelle]

yea i dodge slide more often on ogryn

[rose hinge]

i read it on the ogrynomicon and nowhere else so it must be a very ogryn beneficial thing

[restive echo]

i just got my arbitrator to lvl 30. whats the best way to get my bread up?

[clear plume]

play the highest difficulty you can clear

lossing doesnt give much

so its not worth lossing

[vocal nacelle]

slowly climb and play damnation to get 1K plasteel loot

[rose hinge]

played a few games, I think it works really well for shotgunners bc youre sliding so you can dodge like, a whole volley of them without getting hit

[restive echo]

say less. i stayed on heretic to do the maelstorms but the grind still felt slow lol.

[vocal nacelle]

heresy maelstorm arent that great or grinding resource

just spam quickplay damnation for plasteel

and play 1 havoc for diamantine

[viscid kiln]

Sorry if it's isnt the right place to ask for this but, could some player help me for HAVOC 35 ? It's for the penance. I'm actually 25

[vocal nacelle]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum which region

[fierce sandal]

Yeah one of the main reasons of sliding is ranged immunity. It also let's you keep your momentum without costing stamina, which is particularly beneficial, dare I say "exploitable", on a few weapons. Not to mention more obvious things like letting you move further to avoid a hitbox, if you were to miss the iframes (like avoiding overheads from crushers/maukers in particular)

[ocean kernel]

so Ive got sort of a stupid question
I know weak point hits are headshots, even for melee weapons, right?
but Ive also heard that the knife gets bonus damage on a backstab
so which am I supposed to go for? headshots or backstabs?
and when you add in uncanny strike which every knife uses at this point, does that mean you have to attack armor head on?

[vocal nacelle]

headshot backstab

[limber thicket]

uncanny means you can kill armor head on

light attack spamming and bleeding a crusher to death with a toothpick is funny

[clear plume]

Knife does not get bonus backstab damage, they are probably thinking of the zealot talent

[ocean kernel]

I see, that makes more sense

still, which do you think I should be doing with a knife? probably head to trigger uncanny strike?

I've been having a lot of trouble with the knife

[clear plume]

Always weakspot hit enemeis

Maybe besides some ranged weapons for maulers, always headshot

[clear plume]

In what way?

[ocean kernel]

thanks, that solves that issue

[clear plume]

Making your character max height makes it easier

Since you are closer to ogryn heads

[ocean kernel]

just in general, coming from weapons like the heavy eviscerator, thammer and chaxe, the knife seems very lackluster and doesn't seem to do most things as easily

[limber thicket]

knife light spam bleeds crushers in seconds

[clear plume]

It's a single target weapon with insane mobility and a little bit of an attack combo you need to learn

[ocean kernel]

I was completely shocked to hear three different people call the knife a safe weapon/personal survival weapon because when I took it for a spin it went horribly almost every single match

[polar forum]

it def is

[clear plume]

Safe in the sense it can easily build to 1-2 crushers and has the fastest mobility

[polar forum]

just because you're so fast

[limber thicket]

mobility = survival

[polar forum]

and the dodges are so generous

[limber thicket]

but knife is hard to use imo

[ocean kernel]

Ive heard of using push attacks or heavy attacks but this is the first time I hear of using light spam

[clear plume]

https://youtu.be/kijkFiQnu1w?si=Wg0NJZsKw1axExLo

This is me using a knife on psyker in a solo

[limber thicket]

I'm just saying it can

[ocean kernel]

I'm definitely gonna need to watch this a few times

I tried picking up on what you did the other day when you speedran "on overwatch" for me but it honestly seemed like magic lmao

body blocked on every side but somehow not taking damage

[ocean kernel]

fair enough

[clear plume]

I'm not good in explaining in text on how to use but if I get time I can stream a few things