#gameplay-help

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fickle ether
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Idk man it's just not that common to get melee enough to where beacon is worth taking

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Just have a vet bring field at that point

vocal nacelle
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the chip corruption damage exist i get your point but its not at the part where i tell a zealot player "hey take bacon aura i get corruption because i got hit a lot"

vernal plaza
limber thicket
vernal plaza
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I get it, its just not worth the 3 point tax for something not significant

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How many times do you get 1+ corruption wound anyway
Outside of overhead and burster

fickle ether
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Well it doesnt heal a full corrupted bar tho

vernal plaza
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H40 got 30% corruption damage
By the time you go full health > 0 you have 30% corruption

buoyant olive
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hey. finally leveled my psyker to 30. but i cant find groups for havoc or mortis, any tips?

fickle ether
static crane
vocal nacelle
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i cant remember which part i got corruption on havoc unless i huff pox gas while fighting horde

buoyant olive
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ok thank you.
another question... there is no such kind as a prestige system? so once you hit lvl30 i just "level my personal skill"

vocal nacelle
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shooter/gunner/reaper would just gun you down instead

buoyant olive
fickle ether
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But doesnt do anything for you

buoyant olive
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so now gotta get gear to max and optimize build to playstyle. 🙂

limber thicket
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other than that - true lvl mod

fickle ether
static crane
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bout beacon of purity

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I'm curious now

static crane
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What are we discussing? Is this a new debate that we can have for fun?

limber thicket
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which doesn't mean that it's the best option

vocal nacelle
broken raft
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Not sure how common goop is anymore though

vernal plaza
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Thats an exception to the rule

limber thicket
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also 60% DR every 10s if you're taking hp damage is great

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that's lifesaving DR

vocal nacelle
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if your havoc modifier have blight spread then i 100% recommend taking the bacon aura

limber thicket
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just dodge buh buh buh

vocal nacelle
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other than that pick the TDR

broken raft
limber thicket
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it's an aura

broken raft
fickle ether
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It's a okay talent

broken raft
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In that case benediction works better assuming it stacks with some other forms

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(Dog aura for example)

limber thicket
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Shield of contempt is not an "aura talent" it's just a talent that works in coherency

broken raft
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Yeaj

limber thicket
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you can take both benediction and it

broken raft
limber thicket
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but zealot tree is tax node garbage

broken raft
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Of shield of contempt

limber thicket
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what

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no

broken raft
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Ah okay

broken raft
limber thicket
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4 reel 4 reel

broken raft
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Vet needs just toughness nodes and iron will

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Vet with their 900 toughness, no toughness gen nodes

wraith geyser
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Can somebody help me with the frenzied killer penance?

stray knoll
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to get auric storm survivor, is says without dying, so would it count if i still get knocked but not fully died?

keen oracle
stray knoll
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alright, thank you

polar citrus
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Idk if it's just me and my fuckass launch-edition PS5 or what, but I keep getting a consistent bug where the game crashes if I'm in Quality Mode and I try to click any of the weapon-customization options (Marks, Cosmetics, Inspect)

livid ingot
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Hi! how do i activate the creature spawner mod in the psykanium?

vocal nacelle
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press esc and check the mod option

indigo ingot
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What type of mods do yall run for seeing damage and stats and shit

polar forum
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scoreboard mod

indigo ingot
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any other recommended mods?

polar forum
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too many lol

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psych_ward, creature spawner, skitarius, markers aio, numericui, logmein, empower until limit...

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list goes on

vocal nacelle
vernal plaza
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Numeric ui
Logmein
Psych ward

Bare minimum

keen flume
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Alternate grenade icons is good one because I hate when I don't know if my teammates are using other blitzes that isn't grenades but game still displays the icon

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Ogryn rock and Zealot knifes are no grenades Fatshark angymorrow

vocal nacelle
keen flume
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Oh yeah that one too

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Helps a lot to know and if in case a teammate dies as you checked their UI, you steal from their corpse KEKW_ogryn

vernal plaza
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Oh yea stim color

pliant juniper
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Doing karnack twins hard mode for penance

graceful raptor
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good luck 🙂

pliant juniper
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Need help keeping losing with randoms

graceful raptor
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is it possible to do hard mode in the new system?

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with the bells and shit?

pliant juniper
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Yes

last frost
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Hello, I'm new to the game. What exactly do worker threads do? Should I raise them or lower them? Can you help me?

vocal nacelle
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Usually keep it in the middle -1

last frost
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6 is best ?

graceful raptor
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if you dont have performance issues - dont touch it

vocal nacelle
last frost
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no

vocal nacelle
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Or streaming?

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Don't touch it then

last frost
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what i make is best ?

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But when I set it to 9, I noticed that it was using a lot of CPU.

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some ppl says 6 is best or idk

vocal nacelle
graceful raptor
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i have 6, and i rarely see crashes

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mostly cause of mods i think

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so i think 6 is optimal

golden tartan
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I can't open Penances because I get crash instant

buoyant olive
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does anyone know why partyfinder is locked for havoc for me?

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i am lvl 30 and finished 3-4 damnation missions

buoyant olive
raw smelt
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What stats affect tox gas damage to toughness?

graceful raptor
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toughness damage reduction?

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damage reduction

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corruption damage reduction

void forge
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Tox gas also reduces toughness replenishment iirc

zealous dome
void forge
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Arby also has rebreather which specifically gives damage resistance against tox gas

raw smelt
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Yeah that's why I am asking, I want to grind the 50 tox gas missions penance

raw smelt
void forge
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Yes

raw smelt
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30% Toughness regeneration speed is still just for coherency?

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God damn cryptic game mechanics

clear plume
sonic wolf
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Greetings all players im new here and new in game can i ask for some advice for start ? Today i pick the game via GP , will be a problem for me to play with matchmaking ppl ? Or maybe any builds for new players ? 🙂

polar forum
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You can just jump right in and start with campaign missions

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Game has a tutorial and onboarding missions

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So it should ease you in

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You can find builds in the pins of the class channels or by asking there

craggy minnow
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gamepass has full crossplay with xbox and steam

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you'll start at level 1 and it takes a decent bit to level up so i recommend you try stuff out before going for a premade build

sonic wolf
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TY I didnt know have a story

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this game

keen flume
# sonic wolf TY I didnt know have a story

When you arrive at the Mourningstar, there will be a prompt for you if you wanna play the campaign or skip it
I would recommend it if you wanna learn the story but also the missions

limber thicket
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"story"

void jay
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Does attack speed increase heavy charge time?

keen oracle
void jay
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ty

craggy minnow
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one thing the story does that people dont mention is they added bare minimum tutorial lines for stuff like the interrogator minigames

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or scanning

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now that the playerbase has mostly been around i dont see it a lot but there was a time when people just didnt know how to do the objectives

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(they STILL dont know the mortis trial captures go faster for every person in the zone)

keen flume
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Including long time players

craggy minnow
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at least that one's not blindingly obvious lol

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it took me a little to work out the locations were consistent

silk mauve
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hey so im 30 with 4 classes, and i was told to start doing perfect role guns havoc

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i heard there was something else

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is there or am i just crazy

drowsy panther
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Did the modifiers suddenly change today? i swear i did 20's all last week win rate 90% today been jumping with randoms and lost 10 in a row this is absurd

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havoc*

vocal nacelle
silk mauve
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well not havoc but i was told to try and get the best guns while doing havoc

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so i could do havoc 40

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sorry i may have misunderstood

vocal nacelle
# silk mauve so i could do havoc 40

in havoc there's 2 simplified role : frontline /backline
frontliner (zealot/ogryn/arbites) is holding back the horde /elites /monster so your backline (veteran/psyker/arbites) can help you like shoot special / gunners & burn hordes

you cant exactly do everything like normal mode unless you a lot of experience KEKW_ogryn

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every class have its best "suited" role, well you can try mixing other stuff but that would adding weight at your teammate

silk mauve
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what role would you say is most needed

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like the one people dont play

vocal nacelle
silk mauve
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i just want to be able to find groups and not play the role everyone plays

vocal nacelle
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lower havoc dont have much stress situation

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the BS starts at havoc 30

drowsy panther
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what Havoc modifiers should I avoid? Toll and Pox?

zealous dome
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Toll and Garden

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Also Lights Out

vocal nacelle
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nasty combo

fickle ether
surreal pewter
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Can anyone please help with Just a Flesh Wound penance? been waiting 2 hours in vc for anyone, no dice. It would take 10 minutes to beat Rolling Steel on heresy.

edgy onyx
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Just so I have this right Power and Strength are the same when talking about weapon blessings right?
I heard someone say FatShark renamed Power to Strength but forgot to change all the descriptions.

zealous dome
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Yeah FS did rename it

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Should still be the same buff (Damage, cleave and stagger)

lone adder
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I thought Power was just damage, while Strength was damage, cleave, and stagger

void forge
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They are the same thing

graceful raptor
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is this true +3?

zealous dome
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410 thumbsup_ogryn

ionic moth
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For pub at least

last frost
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İ have 130 fps in game in fight 100 -120 fps but i feel laggy

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How can i fix this

rapid rapids
graceful raptor
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cap to 60 🙂

last frost
sturdy barn
vagrant birch
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unlimited fps tends to lag more sometimes

last frost
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Uh never tried thanks also i have question too

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Worket threads what i make ?

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1-10

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I'm ignorant about computers 😐

sturdy barn
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go to performances

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you'll see how many you have

arctic zephyr
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what????

amber sparrow
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need 2

sturdy barn
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i think mods can bypass that

arctic zephyr
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oh cool I need to have somebody to waste all their time so I can continue refining my custom hud

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ok

graceful raptor
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KEKW_ogryn thats what meat grinder for

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KEKW_ogryn wtf

arctic zephyr
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ok but unless there's a way to add in bot players to meatgrinder i cant adjust the player list

graceful raptor
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what do you need it for anyway... all the info is already given by game

arctic zephyr
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im adjusting the positions of it

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the nameplates?

graceful raptor
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they're perfect but whatever

lime portal
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its also through mods

graceful raptor
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^

ashen crown
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anyone knows how to remove the weapon and ability input hints? disabling "input hints" in interface options doesn't change anything

vernal plaza
still atlas
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Hey question-- for Arbites class I cannot seem to get the "Keeping Protocal" stacks going. Im uncertain what is considered a "Marked Enemy" aside from them being highlighted blue. Because I could swear Im killing the highlighted enemies but not getting stacks

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It feels a little random

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(by random I mean I have no idea how im supposed to get the stack)

still atlas
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Honestly makes so much sense. Thank you

hollow onyx
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i just got to level 30 and im looking to get the best gear ive already searched online and got my weapons maxed but how do i get maxed curios?

polar forum
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you just wait until a max roll shows up

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and then you buy it

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whether from brunts or gambling with milkbucks

golden bluff
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can anyone help me cheat the no melee hit mission in any way possible?, i have tried for quite some time now and i think it's impossible

hollow onyx
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cause u can also use them for limited time acquisitions

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also does it have to be legendary already to be max roll

vocal nacelle
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like 16% toughness / 20% health

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KEKW_ogryn 17% toughness & 21% health is very rare

vocal nacelle
polar forum
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And 400 rating 3 stam curios are a scam

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Need at least 410

hollow onyx
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whats better

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cause lowk i want max roll

vocal nacelle
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thats how much i use to get 1-2 17% toughness

hollow onyx
vocal nacelle
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or just check brunt occasionally

hollow onyx
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alr bet ty

fleet veldt
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I played a special event map, and my missions done count did not increase. Did I do something wrong?

polar forum
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heard rolling steel doesn't count

fleet veldt
dry mantle
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brunting is the worst thing you can do

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something so bad they had to change the gear system to what we have today

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never wait for brunt, it can take literally fornever to get it

fallow field
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Does the game run well through steam link? Before I dump a load of money into getting the kit.

strange timber
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Keep a lookout for rating 400 at least.

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410 or more better.

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Get yourself some +16% toughness ones in the meantime as it can take a couple of weeks or more to save up enough Melk currency or wait for limited time or Brunt RNG to give you something suitable.

keen oracle
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Do not trust the 400 rated stam curios

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They can lie and only give you a +2 bonus, despite saying +3

strange timber
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You'll get it eventually if you keep checking Brunt/Melk regularly and gamble whatever Melk currency you earn.

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Just keep around 1500 or so Melk currency in reserve so you can buy a limited time curio if necessary.

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+17% toughness is by far the rarest for me.

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You can get a 420 rating and still be +16% only.

rancid raft
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Why was I able to join a havoc 23 mission while I was using a trust level 13 character? I’m assuming it is a bug, but I am clearance 40 on my other characters so I’m not sure.

limber thicket
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there's likely no restriction in place other than completing a maelstrom on any character

graceful raptor
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what is this for

fickle ether
hollow onyx
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i didnt have much though so its fine

mystic sky
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How can I see personal progress on the current special event? i remember in previous ones i could see how many missions ive ran

keen oracle
mystic sky
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oh yea shi thank you loregryn

hollow onyx
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can i use the same weapons and curios across characters?

keen oracle
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You do retain weapon masteries across characters though

floral laurel
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where do i claim the event rewards cause i have done a few rotten armour missions now

graceful raptor
floral laurel
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ok

fallow field
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I got a new pc that has ray tracing. But the auto detection settings have left ray tracing off. Should I switch it on?

limber thicket
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test it

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raytracing is a scam and never worth the huge performance hit, imo

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darktide is very poorly optimized as is

keen flume
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Raytracing in Darktide is completely worthless

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It will do barely change anything besides just some funny water puddles

fallow field
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Okay cool. I tested it. And it's no different for ray tracing Vs no ray tracing. I looked really hard too. Best I could say is slighting my interesting specular highlights/reflections. Sharp blue would be how I could describe it. But yeah I don't need it.

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Oh my new pc has blue tooth, so now I can use my Bluetooth head set. Enemies have directional sound!!!? Holy crap what a game changer especially for trappers and pox bursters.

twilit girder
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Was wondering.

Why hasn't fatshark decided to buff underpowered weapons yet?

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I want to use chainsword and not be chastised for it.

vocal nacelle
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chainsword is kinda decent

twilit girder
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Yeah, but people gave me shit for it in vet chat earlier.

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I feel like people need to understand that "criticism" isn't just "tell them what they're doing wrong", but also "give them a reason why and show them what to do instead"

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It's what made me stop playing Vermintide 2.

limber thicket
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fatshark are very slow with updating anything

graceful raptor
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even tho they did say they will now update weapons more frequently KEKW_ogryn

keen flume
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My guess those are gonna be monthly or maybe just two months each

mossy lagoon
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hey y'all i'm coming back to the game after a long break and i am so confused about weapons

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i wanna put different blessings on my weapons but all the blessings are translucent/locked. How do I unlock the blessings?

graceful raptor
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inventory - masteries

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unlock blessings there

mossy lagoon
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omg thanks

graceful raptor
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if levels of guns there are 0 - lvl up guns by using them

mossy lagoon
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i have so many points 😌

storm geyser
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I heard someone saying we cant stay at the same place for to long or else the game will punish us by spawning in extra enemies. is this true? cuse iv never heard of it and it does not say when i google. it.

graceful raptor
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fs confermed that if you backtrack - you will get punushed

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in common games - dunno

storm geyser
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where is this statement from FS if i may ask?

graceful raptor
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is one of their posts

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i wont search for it

keen flume
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Pretty sure it was shared with Havoc 2.0 campaign with Mortis update

fickle ether
# storm geyser where is this statement from FS if i may ask?

"New coordinated horde strike type: “Blockade sandwich”.
Dev Note: This strike may happen if the strike team tries to backtrack too far."

"Changed horde spawn frequency from being based primarily on distance traveled through the level, to relying on timers. Please note that the amount of hordes allowed is still calculated based on main path traversal.
Dev Note: This change was made as backtracking too far turned off hordes. Also it was changed to combat being able to predict roughly where hordes show up."

Havoc changes for norm games holding a area doesnt prevent specials from spawning aswell as the horde timer is still ticking so the longer your sitting in a corner/room the more chip damage you'll take

storm geyser
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am i correct?

fickle ether
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To my knowledge yes unless I'm forgetting something

pine harness
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So I was just in a game with a couple people and I wanted to clear something up for myself:
Penance: Bullseye on Warren 6-19 "Shoot all the blue bottles at the shooting gallery"
What's going on with that? I shot all 12 with a lasgun to avoid collats, and got all 12, no collats.

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Someone suggested I shoot the ones at the start of the level too, but the penance doesn't specify that

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I know you have to avoid the other bottles but I know I didn't hit any of those, so?

keen flume
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I think is better for you to use a low caliber gun

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Like a infantry autogun, try to shoot at the bottles at the bottoms to avoid to pierce through other bottles

pine harness
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I'm mostly wondering if the penance is a little broken, like half the game is

keen flume
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I personally went infantry autogun and tap fire

keen flume
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You also gotta be careful to not shoot the other bottles or you will have to reset and replay the mission again

pine harness
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Shot all the bottles, avoided the brown ones

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Not to mention the player missed one of the bottles so you can't even see them completing it as an assurance the penance isn't broken or glitched somehow
Great help, thanks

keen flume
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Not sure if the penance progress is shared to everyone if several people try to shoot the bootles

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It might be interrupted with someone interfering so is probably best if you do without anyone nearby you or the teammates already run past that section

shadow skiff
hollow onyx
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Should I ever have health curio over a toughness curio?

graceful raptor
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better no

pine harness
fickle ether
storm geyser
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when u play havoc and get the twins. Who do you focus? I hear alot of people say different so id like to know what you guys say?

graceful raptor
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ive heard there is actually someone that needs to be focused...

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but i forgor

royal plover
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what is the hexsomething daemonhost

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when was it added?? just came across it doing Havoc 10 and it killed us

keen oracle
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The timer gets faster the closer you get to the DH

stoic locust
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It targets the furthest party member from the ritual if that becomes important

fickle ether
red swallow
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trying to help resolve a friends darktide issues, hes regularly getting crashes that take out the internet connection to his PC until he reboots. I found a couple posts from people on reddit and the forums over the years describing darktide causing this exact issue, but no solutions, anyone have any ideas? darktide crashing your entire internet connection seems like a pretty specific issue. He's played the game since launch on the same computer but this issue didnt start til trying to come back for the arbites update

silk mauve
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anyone having the issue that they are playing the rotten armor event but not getting progress??

vocal nacelle
shadow skiff
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But some combos don't count to the rewards as well.

fervent relic
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anyone know where the keybinds are stored?

graceful raptor
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in the game settings

fervent relic
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good one

graceful raptor
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no, for real, how did you not find them

fervent relic
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i mean in which file

graceful raptor
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what kind of trolling is this

fervent relic
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the files i found are /bundle/application_settings/settings_common.ini and win32_settings.ini but keybinds are referenced in neither

graceful raptor
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ah you mean "stored"

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actually stored

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wtf... why...

fervent relic
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dawg if you dont know dont join the conversation

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this is the help channel not the judge every query channel

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im trying to solve a very illusive issue and i think this might help

graceful raptor
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DAWG

fervent relic
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i'm starting to think they are stored serverside like loadouts

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fuckin fatshark

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i ended up using 2 mods to solve a problem i'm 99% sure was caused by another mod

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i can foresee no negative consequences whatsoever

smoky ember
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this is for vermintide 2, but its the same case, in that file, i couldnt find anything regarding base game keybinds

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"Keybindings are linked to your user_settings.config file"

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but nothing in that file about binds

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so overall i have no idea lmfao

fervent relic
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i used a now-unsupported mod to bind multiple keys to the same action and wanted to unbind one of them

fervent relic
smoky ember
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yeah

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despair

brave steppe
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Hello guys, with the new change of HUI where can I access to the twins fight?

fickle ether
hollow silo
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I did not get the event frame after complete 10 missions

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Why

limber thicket
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skissue

fickle ether
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Certain missions and modifier combos break the tracking

hollow silo
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So if the issue is known i will get it after quick fix?

polar forum
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who knows

fickle ether
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Knowing FS no it'll be in august when they come back from vacation

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That's when the next hotfix is anyways

hollow silo
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Ok thanks

muted pumice
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Hey, I'm being held hostage in a havoc lobby.
We have a veteran called "WhiteLivesOverBlack" (what the fuck). The game immediately went bad and he got stuck in a wall thanks to a fleshbag. Now he's unkillable, and has been spewing racist shit for the last hour and the match won't end.

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Great.

smoky ember
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pause menu, social

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click on his name

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vote kick

muted pumice
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There's at least one other player who is also saying racist stuff that keeps cancelling the vote

muted pumice
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threw him out of bounds

keen oracle
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For your sanity, I would just leave that one lol

limber thicket
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ok, but why can't you just leave?

smoky ember
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tell him hitler wouldn’t let him hit

muted pumice
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Yeah but I can't play havoc until that game ends

limber thicket
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right, lmao

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votekick?

smoky ember
limber thicket
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oh I see, cancelling

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rip

lone adder
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Rip that sucks

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Report the guys though if you're able to

muted pumice
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ofc reporting. Dunno what else to do.

lone adder
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Eh, if you're petty, could just waste their time doing whatever until they decide to leave

muted pumice
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At least I have the consolation that these are some of the worst players I've ever seen in a h40. Clueless.

lone adder
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Otherwise, nothing wrong with leaving

muted pumice
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I mean three of us are dead. It's just the guy out of bounds who refuses to die or leave.

lone adder
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Ah I see

muted pumice
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Veteran with 4 special kills wpwp

lone adder
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What a champion

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Not that I'm good enough to do H40

weary thistle
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Is there a full list of, like, ideal dump stats anywhere? Zealot has one pinned but the other classes don't appear to

polar forum
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psyker's dump stats are pretty much always warp res, followed by mob/def

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except for voidstrike that dumps blast radius

shadow skiff
weary thistle
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Ahh, I see, it's in the general guides yeah. I scanned through a couple but I'm blind ig, ty

keen yoke
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This might be an often asked question, but as a new player wanting to try other classes (got Vet to 30), is there a way to skip the campaign on other characters?

Everything I've seen from searching it up only mentions for players who were playing prior to the update rolling out.

muted pumice
keen yoke
limber thicket
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probably. you should get a prompt asking about skipping the campaign on creating a new character

ocean magnet
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Dude this twin fight in the campaign is kicking my ass, also can't find people in matchmaking.

cobalt agate
vocal nacelle
ocean magnet
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Aye thanks.

keen yoke
strong holly
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I am a new player that just got to level 30 would like some insight or teaching on what this havic mood is about.

empty forge
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it says i havent completed battle for tertium still

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i cant queue for havoc missions but ive already done auric maelstroms and im havoc 18

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i started playing after the arbites class update, so i have to do the battle for tertium campaign, how do i check how many left i have to do?

keen oracle
fringe crane
#

was this an example of someone kicking me?

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or was this a genuine game crash?

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nevermind i didnt see the message back then

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i did get kicked

vocal nacelle
#

Getting kicked is interesting

vernal plaza
#

What was the error cofe for kicked again

keen flume
ivory linden
#

Why do we take health damage when we still have toughness?

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Like it doesn’t happen all the time

void forge
#

Toughness gives %damage reduction against melee hits

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So if you are not at 100% toughness, some damage will bleed through

ivory linden
#

Oh so stronger hits actually damage your health

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Ahh okay

void forge
#

No, it's all about what % toughness you are at when you get hit

ivory linden
#

Noted

void forge
#

You can tank most melee hits with no health damage at 100% toughness

ivory linden
#

But loose toughness when hit

void forge
#

Yes

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Your toughness will tank the full damage

ivory linden
#

Because 100% is 100% damage reduction correct?

void forge
#

Yes

ivory linden
#

Ahhh that makes so much sense

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Thank you

void forge
#

This is why people hate meleeing groups of ragers

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They swing twice per attack

ivory linden
#

Do blitz count as ranged damage?

#

Makes sense

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Like for sire Melks bounties

void forge
#

Blitz will use whatever form of damage for the weapon you currently have out iirc

ivory linden
#

Interesting

void forge
#

So if you have your melee out when you throw a knife, it will count as melee damage

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And use the perks from your melee weapon

ivory linden
#

Good to know

violet ermine
#

yup, it's why the arbites had so many dog bleed bugs based on what they were holding-- primarily the bolter with bleed, which would stack with the dog bleed build node as well

ivory linden
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Cuz we were wondering about psyker smite if it counted for it. So if we smite from a staff ranged damage and from sword melee 👌 got it

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Very informative

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We thank you 😊 ❤️

void forge
#

Oh I'm not sure how psyker blitz work tbh

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I think they count as ranged damage all the time

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Not sure

ivory linden
#

Should work like the rest of them that’d be easier to program

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Wouldn’t have to add codes for it specifically although maybe they did 🤷🏻‍♀️

violet ermine
#

I know the assail has some weird properties to it, or used to-- could also stack some ridiculous buffs on it and go to town with spamming click

rancid raft
#

This sounds really stupid, but is there a bug that causes you to be automatically declined when trying to join lobbies? or am I just unlucky? I have been declined from every single lobby that I have tried to join for 3 days, and I’m starting to think that it could be bugged.

limber thicket
#

what are you trying to join? havoc?

keen oracle
#

Havoc lobbies?

rancid raft
#

Havoc, adventure, mortis trials

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All of them

limber thicket
#

nobody uses party finder for campaign or mortis

keen oracle
#

I just use quickplay when it isn't havoc

rancid raft
limber thicket
#

when they do, they're waiting for friends

keen oracle
#

Why waste time? The quality of teammates won't be any better KEKW_ogryn

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That party finder is the main reason I don't bother with Havoc lol

rancid raft
#

it’s unusual because it only started happening last week. Before that I was able to join lobbies, and got requests to join when making havoc lobbies.

keen oracle
#

If you've been pushing into higher levels on havoc, teams may be more selective

rancid raft
#

Sometimes when I request to join a party, it will say “request sent” but then when I refresh the list, it’s as if I never requested to join, and I’m able to request again. There is no “request declined” on the party either

onyx monolith
#

Hello everyone, Quick question: does 10% more experience on curios, apply to Weapons xp?

merry dome
#

this blessing says up to +5% strength, but on build sites it says 14-20%?

zealous dome
limber thicket
merry dome
#

thanks lol. What blessings do y'all like on the blaze force greatsword?

seems like shred + unstable power on mk 6, and warp slice + wrath on mk 8 are decent options?

zealous dome
#

And 15 seconds is crazy

frozen aurora
#

I've just started playing psyker. It's the last class I need to max out. But I'm finding it rlly difficult to play. I see most builds on darktide.gameslantern use the equinox force staff but I absolutely loathe it. Is it rlly that important to be a part of every top build on that site?

zealous dome
#

And before you think about pairing it with Blazing Spirit, it doesn't work

merry dome
#

maybe Riposte or Wrath with Unstable Power then

zealous dome
#

Wrath is mildly ok
You could use Warp Splitting talent on its place

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If you can afford it

#

But the rule of thumb is

merry dome
#

ah true i already take warp splititng

zealous dome
#

It'll work as long as it isn't Warp Slice, Blazing Spirit or Murderous Tranquility

merry dome
zealous dome
#

I prefer the 8 because I learned it now muscle memory is messing me up with the 6

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But they are very similar comparatively so feel free to choose

merry dome
#

groovy yeah i think i prefer the attk pattern of 8 as well

graceful raptor
#

is there a mod that makes so quick play doesnt put you into campaign missions

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i dont want these

#

i want normal missions

merry dome
#

"campaign" missions are normal missions

graceful raptor
limber thicket
#

can you get campaign missions on auric histg or mael?

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very sus if you can

graceful raptor
#

the fuck is "histg"

limber thicket
#

high intensity shock troop gauntlet

graceful raptor
#

i press quick play, and with a chance i can get a campaign mission, and the last time i was running it it was easier than normal one

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like, without some enemies

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i might be wrong

#

i just dont want to do campaign missions to not think about it

limber thicket
#

well, the only immediate solution is to not use quickplay. it's kinda pointless anyway at max lvl isn't it?

graceful raptor
#

but i want to find games faster

#

with players

pallid mulch
#

How do I access the launcher options when the launcher is just this

vocal nacelle
pallid mulch
#

Mainly asking because this is on linux

vocal nacelle
wind sandal
#

Every time I try to start a "Rotten Armor and Pox Gas" mission I'm immediately kicked back to Operative Selection with Error 2014, is this a known issue?

shadow skiff
swift zodiac
#

is there literally anything in the game besides Voice of Command that can rez downed players at a distance without just picking them up?

swift zodiac
#

... im at a complete loss then. guess i just got spited by the universe. alright.

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thanks.

polar forum
#

manual rez is the way to go thumbsup_ogryn

swift zodiac
#

im asking because i just lost an auric exemplar attempt to... what i now see is unexplainable black magic

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i went down at the very end of the mission in the finale and was in flames. my teammates were defending my body and waiting for it to clear up before picking me up

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... inexplicably... I am rezzed.

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One wound. in fire. with active specials.

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I died in the next 5 frames.

polar forum
#

yeah only rez should should be able to do that

swift zodiac
#

we're friends, none of them tried to rez me and I believe them.

#

so that leaves.... whatever the fuck happened

polar forum
#

one of your friends might've trolled you KEKW_ogryn

swift zodiac
#

😔 if only

polar forum
#

game won't rez you for no reason or for free

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no such thing as miracles

swift zodiac
#

they wondered if the lag we had experienced somehow resulted in input shenanigans.. they've seen it do some truly cursed things before

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i believe'em when they say they didn't try to rez me, we know better than to rez in fire

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... it's weird af.

hollow onyx
#

i saw a vid that talked about how gunner damage resistance is not that good but every build i see has it so should i have it on my curios? also if i do how many cause its not additive

shadow skiff
#

It will give you more time to respond to gunners though.

shadow skiff
#

This is mostly high havoc stuff.

hollow onyx
vocal nacelle
shadow skiff
vocal nacelle
#

KEKW_ogryn still need to dodge tho, face tanking is not the way

shadow skiff
#

Things just happen

vernal plaza
#

Its still not a good idea to facetank those shots, but you gets deleted slower in a gunfight

smoky ember
# hollow onyx i saw a vid that talked about how gunner damage resistance is not that good but ...

gunners are gonna be one of the main causes of any toughness damage, especially on high havocs

on difficulties lower than aurics, it’s not really a big deal whether or not you have it, it’s nice but not a deal breaker

but on high havocs, your toughness can be broken in an instant, especially by reapers, and having just a little more effective toughness can be the difference between taking health damage or not

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and gunners in general are going to tag you pretty often, even while dodging

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stamina regen is definitely good, but it doesn’t affect your regen delay, only regen rate

flat maple
swift zodiac
#

i was the only vet

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only one of my friends was actually in range to rez me and they went through a play by play of how specifically they tried to avoid hitting activate on me at all. we're of the belief somehow they did, the server lagged and it "carried" their input, otherwise it's as if the game put out a hit on me specifically to make me fail the penace lmfao

flat maple
#

Then somebody Rez you and felt too guilty to admit it

swift zodiac
#

"congratulations, you get a free life. go fuck yourself chief."

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my friends don't lie like that im gonna be honest

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no reason to

pure marsh
#

How are yall dealing with the infested guys i feel like im struggling to put the bulky bastards down quick enough with my current stuff should I just swap caracpace for infested for the moment or is there any trick or I just need to get good

keen oracle
shadow skiff
keen oracle
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They have some different resistances to damage and stagger

shadow skiff
#

Ppl found that out reading code.

vernal fossil
#

Do auric runs give more plast/dia than damn runs?

vernal fossil
#

So does auric just give more ordo docks?

vocal nacelle
keen flume
zealous dome
#

Yeah like flamer

vernal fossil
# pure marsh How are yall dealing with the infested guys i feel like im struggling to put the...
  • Dodging in a circle around the enemy or group as they melee attack will cause them to whiff. dodging backwards doesn't guarantee you will be out of every enemy's melee attack range.
  • For stronger enemies, dodge or block when they melee attack and then attack when they're in recovery animations. don't try to kill them thru their attacks, your gonna get stomped on.
  • Always aim for the head.
  • If you're taking a lot of melee damage and don't have much room to dodge, block push to try and create some space.
  • If the run is becoming difficult, keep a grenade/blitz item or your special filled to use as a "Panic Button." Being able to clear the horde that's overwhelming you ASAP is essential in these situations.
keen flume
#

The blitz as panic button in question:
And that is Smite

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(You missed the one scab rager on your back)

safe meadow
#

can someone explain how i craft a better weapon like i see theres different ranges of weapon stats is there any way to improve these?

graceful raptor
#

in 99% of situations every weapon has a "dump" stat - one of its max stat should be at 60, others at 80 - usually its mobility/defence/collateral

safe meadow
#

so is the only way to get weapons is to just buy the white rarity ones and mission drops?

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and just hope for luck?

graceful raptor
#

excluding like, ripper gun and plasma, there is a min-max strat for stats but dont mind it tbh

graceful raptor
#

but if you are low on money and resources - just dont lmao

safe meadow
#

man i really hoped the crafting rework would give an alternative to that

graceful raptor
#

its not a big deal

graceful raptor
#

not enough?

safe meadow
#

yeah i like that part

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i just find the buying a ton of weapons and trashing kinda dull

#

oh well thanks for the answers

graceful raptor
#

i find it not so hard, it takes like 20 seconds at most to gamble for needed stats every time

keen flume
#

If you low on money and materials it does suck a little bit KEKW_ogryn

safe meadow
#

im low on gold so it is a bit annoying lol

keen flume
#

Though the rework is better because no more restrictions and gamble pogryn

safe meadow
#

yeah the rework is fantastic

vernal fossil
#

btw here's a quick reference chart I made for empowerment cost:

graceful raptor
eternal heart
#

I need help! this zealot penance is wanting me to do some things in 20 min round what i did but it only counts in a private game

graceful raptor
#

choose by region you're in

half vector
#

how often this game comes out with new class seems like they release 1 only 2 year after release so 2 annually?

vocal nacelle
#

this is first DLC class on darktide

#

and vermintide 2 DLC class is random

keen flume
#

It took them this long to add Arbites because the game also went through massive overhauls since it dropped so you could expect next classes to come very later on KEKW_ogryn

rancid raft
#

Does anybody else have problems with the arbitrators dogs knocking enemies over right before you hit them and causing you to miss? It isn’t a big problem, but it’s frustrating when it happens and I have to attack a second time.

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I’m fine with the dog pouncing on enemies. but it’s when the dog knocks over nearby enemies just by walking next to them and not damaging them.

flat nexus
#

Hey guys, no matter how many missions a friend and I do, we can't seem to get progress on the new event. Anyone have an idea on how to fix it?

keen oracle
#

With the "Rotten armour" modifier

flat nexus
keen oracle
#

Have they had an additional vent purge modifier? I heard those where bugged

flat nexus
#

It was on Auric

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So don't recall if it was vent purge... but I do recall shock troop modifier being in it

heady ravine
#

are toughness 17 relics really rare? i thought i had to find toughness ones with over 400 item level or whatever, but i dropped a 410 today and it still says 16

leaden wharf
#

new player: is it possible to solo the twins in Campaign XII? i keep getting stuck with bots and they don't like to come down to the boss pit to help out with stuff

keen oracle
keen oracle
leaden wharf
#

managed to get into a game on the NA server and a couple lvl 30s popped in, fortunately. laggy AF but i got it done, finally XD

heady ravine
keen oracle
#

Yeah, it's not a big deal. Just keep an eye in brunts shop and spend some Melk bucks every now and then

heady ravine
#

yeah fair, thanks for the tips 🙂

#

i have a lot of weapons in my pile that have a perfect split 80/80/80/80/60 which seems like it should be rarer than it is.. is there a reward for something im getting that causes this or is it just a thing that pops up more often than it should?

void forge
#

Just random luck afaik

heady ravine
#

fair, thanks

#

some of this stuff isnt that obvious 😄

heady ravine
limber thicket
#

there might be some weights to the randomness, indeed

#

but getting a perfectly rolled item is pretty easy rn

rancid raft
#

It’s possible, just not easy if you are new to the game.
I don’t remember there being anything which required multiple players.

craggy minnow
#

Hourglass virus can penance KEKW_ogryn

#

I still don't have that im pretty sure it was bugged when i tried

vocal nacelle
half vector
#

is arbi the best class?

void forge
#

Depends how you define that

#

In terms of raw damage, no

keen oracle
#

Certainly the easiest class

zealous dome
graceful raptor
#

One of the best

zealous dome
#

Good at best

#

Mid at worst

half vector
#

oh so whats the best class in terms of potential

graceful raptor
#

You

void forge
#

Ogryn probably

keen oracle
graceful raptor
#

I mean skill

zealous dome
#

It's Ogryn

#

Simply be immortal and one shot everything effortlessly

graceful raptor
#

But tbh in my opinion ogryn and arbi are in the same tier

keen oracle
#

The incredible skill of...

Checks notes

Rumbler spam

zealous dome
#

That also works

graceful raptor
#

The rending on arbi is just too good

#

Spammibg lights to armor never felt so good

vocal nacelle
graceful raptor
#

Zealot if you build his tree properly*

zealous dome
#

Another Zealot W

#

Be immortal and one shot everything

#

Bosses included

half vector
#

HAHAHA thanks

#

also what mod is good

graceful raptor
#

mod as like from nexus?

half vector
#

yess

graceful raptor
#

Psych Ward

zealous dome
#

Danger Zone

graceful raptor
#

Creature Spawner

#

thats it basically

graceful raptor
zealous dome
#

Nuh uh

limber thicket
#

Schlongs of Mourningstar

zealous dome
#

Let Me See if you hate flamer like weapons

graceful raptor
#

i have eyes

half vector
#

Whats the best passives for
Blaze force greatsword

#

Is there a link for builds lol

keen oracle
#

Blessings you have options, wrath, unstable power, deflector, shred

hollow gazelle
#

Any tricks to get through campaign XII? the one with the two wolfer underlings that are bosses? I just cannot get through that stage alone

#

all the bots bug out on the ceiling of the stage and I can't beat two of them on my own

#

matchmaking isn't helping me find a team for it either

fickle ether
zealous dome
#

Hmu if you need a third

hollow gazelle
#

How do I invite you guys? I don't think I can do it on my own, I just tried again with a random teammate and it didn't go well

graceful raptor
#

yeah its like normal when you try to invite someone random from the Mournningstar and he declinesKEKW_ogryn

zealous dome
hollow gazelle
#

Even on uprising it doesn't feel doable

zealous dome
#

Gimme a minute and I'll log on

#

Lemme just fine my Fat number

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6822865323

silk mauve
#

so what do yall think is the best way to build arb

graceful raptor
#

obvious, no?

willow cobalt
#

i cant seem to be able to do the abhor the mutant penance idk what im doing wrong

rigid wasp
#

If memory doesn't fail me, you can't bump the mutant and then kill it

#

You need to hit it while dashing

willow cobalt
#

okay so i gotta hit it b4 thank u

stoic locust
#

Do a drive-by with a heavy sword

willow cobalt
#

ok

rigid wasp
#

If you time it right, you can even do it from the front

stoic locust
#

Heavy sword has really good maniac so it should 1 shot

fallen iron
#

anyone know how to get the rememberencer title? havent played in a bit and just seen someone with it and i neeed it

polar forum
#

From Mortis

graceful raptor
#

morbius trials

polar forum
#

I don’t remember

zealous dome
#

its like 20 games or something

fallen iron
#

okie dokie thanks!

queen oracle
#

can anyone explain the malleus monstronum penance, the wording seems vague

clear plume
#

deal 50% of a boss hp with only brain burst

graceful raptor
#

while being in a private game, you (a psyker using brain burst), have to deal damage to a monstrosity with brain burst

clear plume
#

and have that boss die

graceful raptor
queen oracle
graceful raptor
#

deal enough damage

clear plume
#

have atleast 50% of its hp by your brain burst

graceful raptor
#

is it 50%

#

yeah 50

#

was it 90% at start KEKW_ogryn

queen oracle
#

very cool thanks

twilit girder
#

Any tips to combat Gunners if I have a DB shotty?

vocal nacelle
#

Get closer and shoot? KEKW_ogryn

fickle ether
twilit girder
twilit girder
fickle ether
#

From ranged attacks yes

#

Melee can still hit you

twilit girder
#

That explains why they don't work!!!

#

Was wondering if it just sucked against gunners.

vocal nacelle
#

Toughness on dodge talent

twilit girder
vocal nacelle
dreamy wedge
#

So I've got a little something: Arbites, dog, commands. How does the dog AI pick targets if I don't tell it what to go for, is it more efficient to always be barking (pun intended) orders, or to let the dog pick its own prey, what should I do?

keen flume
#

Pretty sure he will prioritize them on his own without your tag commands

dreamy wedge
#

Right, but assuming I never give any command vs if I am instantly giving the next command after the dog's previous target died, when will it tackle more enemies? What's the area in which it'll pick enemies (how close do I need to get to a sniper before the dog decides to attack on its own)?

limber thicket
#

afaik, it stays within 12m of you, prioritizing specials and elites

#

by default

dreamy wedge
#

I see I see

#

Okay, last questions: the speed. Is the dog quicker on its own or if being commanded? (quicker as in, acquiring the next target over a period of time)

willow field
#

What if I want mobility on assault chainsword? What's best stats for it then

keen oracle
willow field
#

I just think that 76% stats are best

keen oracle
#

Up to you 🤷 but chainsword needs more help with its damage than its mobility in its current state

smoky ember
sonic timber
#

What is up my emperor blessed bruthas and sissy’s! I am a humble reject zealot. I’ve held off on havoc out of fear of being dead weight. Now I feel comfortable with my skills and capabilities. However I fear I missed the initial climb and now stuck at base camp with the rest of the last picked kids going nowhere. Any tips, tricks or suggestions to make the harrowing climb less painful?

smoky ember
#

also DB has deceptively good range

smoky ember
#

and stick with the team

sonic timber
#

Hard to start with no teams ever available. Or denied when they are. Do I make my own run?

#

If I make it will the people come?

#

I wish I had friends😭

void forge
#

Yeah you can host your own

#

Or look for people in the lfg channels here

keen oracle
sonic timber
keen oracle
#

Yeah, otherwise you would have to grind Malice tier havocs lol

#

Snoozefest

smoky ember
#

having to grind heresy and base damnation havocs

sonic timber
#

When does havoc go balls deep?

keen oracle
#

I tried a few mid teens havocs and I wouldn't call them snoozefests KEKW_ogryn

smoky ember
keen oracle
#

Twins, special wave, armour wave a wall of gunners and a burgle KEKW_ogryn

#

Game director has a habit of throwing half its resources at the start of a mission, I swear

agile quarry
#

How do I play a Zealot Relic Blade melee?

#

What combo is ideal?

sonic timber
#

Kill everything

keen oracle
agile quarry
#

im still leveling

sonic timber
#

MkX light attacks for horde. Heavy for single targets. Chained heavies for extra horde clear power!

#

That’s my jist of it. I call my relic blade the BLENDER! I swing, things die. Simple as

zealous dome
agile quarry
vocal nacelle
agile quarry
#

Who is FS?

sonic timber
smoky ember
#

fatshark

sonic timber
#

Slim guppy

agile quarry
#

Oh

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Mybad lol

#

Sorry just bought the game frm most recent sale and just playing around and learning

#

I don't understand

sonic timber
agile quarry
#

For Mk2:

L1->H4->Repeat for overhead strikedown spam

L1->H4->H3->Heavy spam for repeating strikedown spam. Useful into lots of heavy armor spam for stagger.

H2->L3->Repeat for trash horde clear

Push Attack->H1->H2->Repeat for mix horde clear, particularly useful into rager packs since the heavy can stagger them out of their combo. H2 can flow into heavy strikedown spam if needed.

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What does it mean
L1 -> H4?

vocal nacelle
#

light attack -> heavy attack

agile quarry
#

What about the 4?

vocal nacelle
#

L1 is the first light attack

zealous dome
#

Light 1 goes to heavy 4

agile quarry
#

How do we do that light 1 to heavy 4?

vocal nacelle
#

after light attack one it connects to heavy 4 automatically

zealous dome
#

It's the natural flow of the weapon

agile quarry
#

Oh

sonic timber
agile quarry
#

I thought it'd be L1 > H1

agile quarry
zealous dome
sonic timber
zealous dome
#

But lately Fatshark cooked some good flows

agile quarry
#

My dodge is spacebar

sonic timber
#

Dodge/jump is silliness

agile quarry
#

L1->H4->H3-> means?

#

Left Tap, Hold Left, Hold Left?

zealous dome
#

Light 1 flows into Heavy 4

#

That flow into heavy 3

agile quarry
#

How do I make them flow?

#

I am so confused HAHAHA

vocal nacelle
zealous dome
#

Light attack is a click
Heavy attack is hold

#

So basically

#

You click, then hold then hold

agile quarry
#

Aaaah

vocal nacelle
#

light attack and heavy attack have different swing direction

agile quarry
#

I thought I had to shift left and shift right to get into the "flow

vocal nacelle
#

so there's variant 1-4

agile quarry
#

Oh so I was right?

zealous dome
#

You don't have to wait for it to automatically attack on heavies

agile quarry
#

I have to position and press a and d for the different h3 and h4

#

?

vocal nacelle
#

no

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its not a fighting game

agile quarry
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I mean, I am kinda fighting for my life HAHAHAAHA

vocal nacelle
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i can show you real quick if you want

agile quarry
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Oh okay cool

zealous dome
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It's just your mouse clicks or holds

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Nothing more

agile quarry
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So basically it's just left click, left hold, left hold?

zealous dome
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No left is block

vocal nacelle
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yes

sonic timber
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Don’t tell him about the sprint attacks yet!

vocal nacelle
zealous dome
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Fuck

vocal nacelle
agile quarry
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I'm using default keybinds

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HAHAHAHA

zealous dome
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Yeah I thought about the cancels for a while

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💀

agile quarry
zealous dome
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Yeah but it should be mouse 1 gaming ad infinitum

agile quarry
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Mouse 1 gaming = Light attack?

zealous dome
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Or heavy

agile quarry
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Oh

zealous dome
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Depends if you click or hold

agile quarry
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I have Ogryn for that HAHAHHA

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So for this

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H2->L3->Repeat for trash horde clear

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Left Hold into Left Tap?

vocal nacelle
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yep

agile quarry
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Okay gotcha

zealous dome
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Yes but heavy 1 will come out first

agile quarry
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THANKS ALL!

sonic timber
vocal nacelle
agile quarry
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Another question

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I am using Mk X

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damn i cant shwo image

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nvm i'll figure it

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hahaha

zealous dome
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Yeah your name is grey

vocal nacelle
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keep chatting

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will get perm eventually

zealous dome
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Yup

smoky ember
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for single target on the mk2, i usually do 2 lights to get to the uppercut

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then heavy light repeat

zealous dome
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Mk10 PA Heavy Light Heavy Heavy Light

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I think

smoky ember
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mk10 stinks

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stinky boring weapon

zealous dome
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You stink

smoky ember
vocal nacelle
zealous dome
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You're positive on special activation

rancid raft
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How do the effects from mortis trials synergise with the psykers staves?
For example, would the +2 burn stacks per ranged hit from the pyrokinetic archetype activate when using the inferno staff?
And would the increased damage to burning targets also apply to soulblaze, or just regular burning?

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Also, do the effects that improve brain burst also apply to the brain burst that activates automatically with kinetic flayer?

slate geyser
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Are there two variants of the relic sword? If so, can I purchase both versions from the armoury exchange?

patent jasper
molten quail
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hey everyone are there any people here willin to help a dude out with a penance?

steady epoch
molten quail
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i got you lol what do you need?

steady epoch
molten quail
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ooof that was a rough one i got you np i need just a fleshwound for zealot

steady epoch
molten quail
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sick we can do yours first easy day give me 20 minutes ill be ready to go

steady epoch
molten quail
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im back homie you ready?

steady epoch
molten quail
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19

vernal fossil
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Does Auric and/or Havoc give more Mastery exp than Damnation?

trim fjord
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I'm upgrading a weapon with 80 max everywhere and 60 max in mobility. Right now at power 400 the mobility is only at 18. It will jump to 60 once at power 500 right? It seems strange because from 280 to 400, mobility went from 6 to 18 I think.

lone adder
trim fjord
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Thank you!

lone adder
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No prob

vocal nacelle
dusty aurora
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Do you apply the normal dodge timing to sliding ?

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Specifically against trappers

fickle ether
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Dont know if sliding prevents a net but maybe I'm wrong

graceful raptor
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iirc its about the projectile of the net

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doesnt matter if you slide or just dodge

vocal nacelle
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i dodge slide more often if i use shield ogryn

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more distance

hushed chasm
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squeak (you will get netted if you slide towards a trapper who shoots a net)

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squeak (slide gives you invulnerability to hitscan ranged attacks, but not to projectiles such as nets)

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squeak (though rat does feel like sliding reduces your hitbox and makes it easier to dodge nets)

strong fable
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can i get a really simple explanation about how supression works? is it just that i shoot near them and they are supressed or how does it work

graceful raptor
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near them+direct hits

strong fable
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so if i shoot him once he is supressed? or does it vary for weapons?

graceful raptor
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vary for weapons+more shots = more suppression

strong fable
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ohh i see, and for a blessing that does more dammage top supressed enimies, its only at max supression?

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'or is it any level of supression

graceful raptor
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i think any

strong fable
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oh!

graceful raptor
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still useles

strong fable
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how so?

graceful raptor
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better dont use it

strong fable
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awwww

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okie dokie!

graceful raptor
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cause suppression works only on common shooter, gunners, non-infested zombies and reapers

strong fable
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ohhhh

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i see!

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thank u very much

graceful raptor
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not even shotgunners

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not specials

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not elits

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sometimes its a strat on havoc tho

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to supress a bit to win some time to come for melee

strong fable
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i hear you

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but regardless, the damage isnt really worth it as a blessing

graceful raptor
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nah

vocal nacelle
strong fable