gameplay-help

[upbeat drift]

pain

[shell shoal]

a 400 can never become a 410, it's over

[patent jasper]

The base curio can never change, only the 3 traits you get from upgrading it

[shell shoal]

exactly

[red escarp]

in havoc party finder, is this the havoc level of the person or their mission?

[jovial niche]

heyo new convict here just wanted to ask what the difference in gameplay/playstyle choices between a zealot and ogryn specced to be a tank be

[vocal nacelle]

Ogryn drink toughness as a way to stay alive
Zealot avoid damage/take damage to get buffed

[patent jasper]

The mission, If you hold shift for more info it’ll show the rank of everyone in the lobby

[jovial niche]

hmm ogryn seems more my groove thanks for the answer!!!

[vocal nacelle]

Come chat in #ogryn-class give more tips

[jovial niche]

will do

[lime idol]

Zealot is more agile
Ogryn is more tanky

[jovial niche]

just saw the big ass shields and im totally bought in

[vocal nacelle]

Ogryn is a tank, as in literal vehicle tank not the standard rpg tank

[red escarp]

it didnt show their havoc ranks, only trust level. does that mean they havent done it?

[patent jasper]

Probably

[red escarp]

then why does it show a rank?

[iron pebble]

Any idea why can't I select havoc mode? I did a maelstrom mission too or do you need to do a non-auric maelstrom mission?

[smoky ember]

have you spoken to dukane?

[rigid geode]

How do you repair weapons again the stats seem to have decreased

[graceful raptor]

what

[rigid geode]

On my damage etc it says 64/80 and so forth

[smoky ember]

hadron, but it’s not repairing the weapon

the weapon has base stats

and then those stats can be upgraded to the potential, the second stat

it’s the empower option

you need to have weapon mastery to do it though

[rigid geode]

So the second number is what I can achieve?

[smoky ember]

yes

[rigid geode]

Thank you so much I haven't played in months and coming back confused tf out of me

So the stats won't go down?

[graceful raptor]

never

[smoky ember]

no

[smoky ember]

yah of course

[iron pebble]

Naw, can't seem to talk to her either

Did some havoc missions in another party yesterday though

[gusty shore]

is there a quick guide to how havok MM works? this is super confusing i have 3 levels and no idea what it means when it says 11-20?

[late valley]

Hit E it clears tags

Might work

[iron pebble]

Googled, it was due to difficulty modifiers

[jovial niche]

is just slidespamming a faster way to get around than running? from a purely mobility perspective ofc

[shell shoal]

it conserves stamina, slide spamming is a lot faster though if you are carrying power cells

[thick dust]

Anyone else experiencing massive lag ingame rn or is it just on my end?

[last crypt]

since ive been lowkey ignored, is defences a good dump stat on the greatsword?

[thick dust]

Yeah

Well, I would still maybe roll a few times for a higher defence cause empowering it from 1 will be pain

[last crypt]

nah i got good schmoneys

i can also just roll from time to time and wait for a proper one

[sinful summit]

Warp resist

Since the only thing that affects peril is the warp slice you won't do too often

[last crypt]

oooh okay

join game
already someone complaining about my weapon LOL

[tidal jackal]

Hey ! Is it normal we get to play three same missions on a loop in havoc ? we've been playing the same ones 7 times in a row

[sinful summit]

what are they saying lmao

[last crypt]

mnah it was justifiwe

[patent jasper]

For havoc is that giant list of modifiers to enemy stats someone posted earlier at all times depending on havoc rank or only depending on currently weekly seed

Do we know when each hidden modifier ranks up?

[digital rampart]

Hi
I have 4% combat ability regeneration on each of my curios for stealth veteran. Would that be useful as opposed to the 20% or 30 (I forgot the max number) resistance from snipers? This is for auric heresy btw

[snow tinsel]

Play havoc, make it until the end of the mission, server seizes up and disconnects the whole party - mission is no longer available, however, i am also prohibited from starting another havoc until the previous one is finished

[silver musk]

Can anyone give me the run down on curios? I used to run all toughness for every class except ogryn which I ran all hp. Is this the way, or am I making a mistake here?

[shell shoal]

just don't run +wound curios except on martyrdom zealot

[smoky ember]

toughness curios are good on ogryn too

[steel tulip]

Typically it's

Three toughness or Two toughness and One stamina

Two Toughness and One health isn't bad either, but that's mostly a Psyker thing as Psyker has the fastest Regen for stam and access to kinetic deflection.

I honestly don't know anyone who runs two Toughness and One health anymore though

[silver musk]

I basically run 3 toughness on all my builds except for stealth builds I throw in a stam

[silver musk]

Running multiple? I thought I was supposed to run hp because his hp pool was the largest while his toughness was lower.

[smoky ember]

that’s why you want toughness curios

yes, multiple

[shell shoal]

the argument can be made for like going max max HP on certain builds but toughness is too powerful and you can still get a lot from talents + curios anyway

[silver musk]

Thanks for the tips!

[trail spear]

Anyone had an issue with Havoc not unlocking? Ive completed a bunch of auric maelstroms since the update and its still locked out in party finder for me

[shell shoal]

it did unlock but

you have to go to difficulty and untick them all

should look like this, then you can select havoc

[trail spear]

OH that makes sense, thanks

[shell shoal]

it doesn't. no, it doesn't, but no problem

it doesn't make any sense

you'd think that game mode would supercede everything else

but no

apparently difficulty does

which is highly arbitrary

[trail spear]

Yeah it dosent make sense, but it is what it is

[lime idol]

Typically
Build for >200 health and 20% sniper resist for the human classes
Turbo stack toughness on ogryn

[knotty vessel]

if I'm lvl 18 havoc, is there any point doing lvl 18 havocs again? Or I need to wait for a 19 Havoc mission?

[vocal nacelle]

2 toughness 1 health for ogryn

3 health is release date strat

[broken bobcat]

nvm

I read

[vocal nacelle]

there's appropriate sticker for that

[broken bobcat]

[limber plank]

haven't played since the initial crafting was implemented post launch- are there dump stats on the random role blank guns i can buy or do i want to just try and get max stats in all of them? (looking for the mk xii recon lasgun rolls specifically)

[vocal nacelle]

you can check the max potential of the gun

[rigid wasp]

Did the developers recently just nerf some of the guns?

My combat shotgun no longer reloads as quickly as it once did. I’m sure it had a perk that enabled it to do so

[hushed pier]

Hello Darktide. What setting governs how bright fire effects are? I can't see past my own flamethrower.

[vocal nacelle]

i dont remember any shotgun nerf

[shell shoal]

bloom maybe?

[shell shoal]

no, there is a reload speed perk I guess but I don't think anyone would advise you use it

[sweet cypress]

Explain please

[vocal nacelle]

your rank turn to 17 after reset day if you didnt play any havoc

[sweet cypress]

how do I get havoc assignment rank up then?

[vocal nacelle]

play havoc with premade team and you are the host

[sinful summit]

rank only goes up if you are the one that queues your mission, or if you have beaten someone elses havoc thats a higher rank and you wait for the order reset listed there

(no one likes this)

[shell shoal]

yeah it

it shouldn't surprise anyone at this point but

the entire system is far more convoluted than it really had to be, somehow

[gilded saffron]

hosts get perks non-hosts dont get, and non-hosts get perks hosts get, its kind of frustrating

you cant progress both the chest and helmet cosmetic penance if you host, only if you're in someone elses lobby

[shell shoal]

oh yeah and that thing too, the limited tries? I don't understand at all

[gilded saffron]

that is fine with me, fail 3 times you go down a rank. When you get back up your mission has different modifiers

of all the things i dislike about havoc that doesnt make the list

[shell shoal]

I think it somewhat goes against the nature of like

so if you're gonna add 'raids' to this game basically kinda, then like

you don't go down a level when you fail

you just keep trying until you get it

[gilded saffron]

theyre not raids, just modified missions. lore wise you're failing dukane so your clearance level goes down

it was in the trailers and such

theres bigger fish to fry, like the arbitrary method of making the game harder with laser cannon gunners instead of higher enemy density

They could have done something like monstrous specialists, but horde enemies turning into elites, if thats possible. Thatd be good

[sinful summit]

that isnt the point

this is supposed to be the ball bustingly hard mode

consistently failing should have some sort of punishment since its supposed to be a difficult climb up to the top

[shell shoal]

there's many problems with the fact that you go down a level, namely: if things aren't working out with your party, it becomes a much bigger problem much faster because there's quote unquote 'stakes'. in other games if you fail like you can still keep trying it until you get it, but uh yeah. not here. this can cause friction between players which is why this is not the way it's done elsewhere, so they've done a really good job implementing more ways for players to get angry with one another, and there's really no reason to do it like that... especially since there's no real reason they had to do the reset the way they do, since it's obviously not possible to get an impossible combination of map and mods, but it is possible to get one that's unusually difficult

sometimes even just what the director chooses to do and your like lineup of enemies to face is toxic and there's not much you can do about that, sometimes the game's really nice and just doesn't give you anything particularly threatening, so there's a healthy amount of RNG in there too...

and I can see already like that just having the pus skin mod is going to be a real strong contender for like changing whether or not you get a clear or not because it is way more dangerous than any of the other mods they can give you

I just think that if they wanted to implement a 'difficult mode' they probably could have made many different decisions in designing havoc

and made it better than it currently is

[lament trellis]

Hi! do you guys think if I like the vraks autogun (IAG variant) I will like the shredder autopistol? Trying to find a place for it for a time now but wondering if there's even a point

[smoky ember]

the main thing i want changed about havoc is hitmass increases and crusher overkill

it should be extraordinarily dense hordes and elite spawns, not just hyper buffed enemies

[smoky ember]

shredder auto pistol is pretty weak unfortunately

it’s got a small niche of being able to stagger ragers very quickly

and acting as a pocket toughness generator with inspiring barrage

but it struggles against most everything

[shell shoal]

no doubt they felt they had to increase enemy stats because they realized certain team comps, even if you send hordes of 200 crushers at the team they'll still get through them because we have killing enemies down to a science at this point, and it helps with consoles since already, apparently, you get frame drops on those just playing the game normally, so imagine if they doubled horde sizes for instance at havoc 40 and like nothing else, yeah it'd still probably not make the game that much harder and it'd destroy performance across the board

[pale marsh]

Anybody got tips for havoc? 15-20 is rough, but past 20 is a whole new level, feel like I’m hitting my limit :/

[wind sandal]

Is it just me or did the bridge event at the start of Enclavum Baross get way the fuck harder

Like an absolute revolving door of people getting overwhelmed and dying

[vocal nacelle]

What class

[graceful raptor]

at 20+ its more about sticking together

playtime's over

[worthy comet]

Shooters become incredibly dangerous at 20+

[graceful raptor]

good

[twilit sapphire]

so me and my friend just did the first havoc lvl and i went to havoc lvl 2 but he stayed that 1 is that normal?

[vocal nacelle]

yes

[vocal nacelle]

your friend havoc clearance will go up instead

#general-chat message

[full stone]

Does the quest with rejects under 30 work for myself if I'm leveling a character in damnation?

[pale marsh]

psyker but im just talking in general

[pale marsh]

yeah i did notice that

[pale marsh]

ok ty

[brisk jasper]

Just curious, does it make a big difference for the level on a gun? Thought I'd try the plasma gun but it's only 310, and I'm assuming that's why I feel like it's underperforming in malice... compared to the bolt gun I was used to (500)

[little coyote]

it does

just look at the stat bars and you can see how much it will improve compared to the current setup vs the max it can reach

[brisk jasper]

Cool, guess I'll just have to play until it improves 🙂

Ran out of funds to dope it artificially

I meant heresy btw

Malice is too easy but Heresy isn't as easy as usual 😛

[raw smelt]

Is there any melee weapon where 60->80% mobility is really good?

[zealous dome]

For practical purposes? No
For memes? Dueling Sword 5

High Mobility
High Defences

Then you do the funny run everywhere

Dodge out of the map

[coral violet]

pov green havoc reaper fighting for his life https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/882620050484363264/1311490163788087387/IMG_6465.mp4?ex=67490be5&is=6747ba65&hm=ca9f1d89f66bcb906800beb6aefbc01e687aa3e8c5ed338bc9b35c3d19db76ea&

[pliant willow]

The door closed what do we do

Solved: had to wait for an enemey to enter

[torn cargo]

What's implied by ''Ranged hits'' here? A blessing on Boltgun

[cobalt magnet]

Any shot that hits an enemy

[cobalt magnet]

Pro was side character the entire time

[brittle flicker]

How the hell can I play havoc?? XD The game won't let me

[pliant willow]

think you need to complete a malestroem mission first

[void forge]

Reset your tags

[vocal nacelle]

press E on your party finder

[rigid wasp]

been a while since i had to mess with mods, currently they arent loading when i boot the game, am i missing an important file or something? also using auto mod loader now

[void forge]

did you run the batch file again?

there was a hotfix

[rigid wasp]

doin that now

game wont launch now its crashing before the launcher even comes up x.x

[void forge]

you might need to update some mods if you havent in a while.

most likely dml

[rigid wasp]

that worked tyvm :)

[void forge]

[knotty vessel]

Hey, why is my Havoc Assignment Level 16, when my clearance is Level 25...it's a bit odd that I'm limited to hosting 16s when they're too easy

[void forge]

fatshark made the confounding decision that if you assist someone else's havoc mission you will only get the rank at the end of week reset instead of immediately

[knotty vessel]

amazing 🤦‍♂️

[gilded horizon]

Why does my game go haywire after the update? The audio starts stuttering and after a few seconds the game completely freezes.

[knotty vessel]

That sounds like more of a pc issue or a audio driver issue tbh...have you updated all your drivers?

1. Update drivers (type "windows update" into windows search bar) + update your GPU drivers
2. Verify game files and disable all mods if you're running any
3. Reinstall game.

If that doesn't work, I'd probably check stuff like your temps, power usage, and check a different high-intense game.

[gilded horizon]

The patch after the update broke it, i have done everything that you've listed

[opal salmon]

any1 know if there is something i can do on my end to help relieve the lag that happens during high intensity moments... mainly non registered inputs? i am getting really tilted...

[lime cape]

i get the same problem and its been a problem in the game for months

[knotty vessel]

what's your pc build? And have you seen any other game crash?

• and what point does it crash? Load screen, in a game etc?

would also scour this for any similar issues, or submit a bug ticket: https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/darktide/bugs/94

[simple leaf]

hello friends, I need some information (help with the havoc mode)

[shell shoal]

well, what is it?

[simple leaf]

Im currently level 16 with a lvl 16 mission available, but my highest clearance is 22 (ive done a few havoc missions). If I list my own party, can I do a higher mission, or do I have to do the lvl 16 one that I still have?

[shell shoal]

your clearance is probably 22 because you did a 22 with other players right

[simple leaf]

yes

[shell shoal]

it should set your assignment to 22 if you wait until next week

until next RESET, I should say, which is in a couple days

[simple leaf]

and if I do my own lvl 16 mission this week? Will I receive a new lvl 22 mission after that?

[shell shoal]

I don't honestly know, you could try it but it might just give you a 17

[simple leaf]

lol I hope not 😄

that would be a slog

ty either way

[rich smelt]

Why my mods keep getting deleted randomly?

Not just deleted, but random mods are added my mod folder like NumericUI, sorted_mission_grid and true_level

Like WTF?

[sour depot]

anyone have bugged sounds after patch?

[eager basin]

Is it better to sacrifice random reward weapons into un-mastered weapons or just sell em and buy new ones of the same kind instead (obv buying is already better, but friendo is short on dockets)

[vital tiger]

Hello. Just downloaded game and now at pick class screen. Which class to pick if I want big big weapons and are said weapons good.

[kind flame]

Ogryn might be your thing

or Veteran

[eager basin]

They got a Hulk pfp, so its obv Ogryn they seek

[cold plaza]

yea and there's been more crashes

[kind flame]

had the same thought

[cold plaza]

i lost a havoc cause i crashed and couldn't reconnect

so it took away a try

[shell shoal]

yeah

yep

they knowingly added that to the game

their video game that constantly suffers from random crashes, memory leaks (inevitable crashes) and random disconnects at random times

[cold plaza]

this was after i reconnected from a crash that sent me back to operative selection

when i reconnected i was hogtied

after this clip all the chaff started walking into the air and i dc'd again

[shell shoal]

is that YOUR audio going to absolute shit

[thin crest]

how can I get my assingment rank up when I cant start it alone and nobody wants to join me at low level

[shell shoal]

you should just wait until other players realize they only get the helmet from assisting other players

I have been joining low level matches constantly

[stiff arch]

Hello Friends whats the Dump stat for Duelling Sowrd?

[smoky ember]

mobility

ds5 is defenses

[ivory igloo]

why do some classes have penances which can only be done in private group?

[weak sundial]

because those peneces mess with gamplay of the whole group

[ivory igloo]

i see

[woeful root]

and in the case where it seems overly restrictive, it's cuz they were made private and then they did some nerfs (and in the case of flesh wound, they later introduced missions that could be completed in a shorter time, such as Rolling Steel)

[glossy egret]

So, in Havoc, at the end of the week, do I get rewards for my own Havoc progress? Or for the max Havoc I have completed?

[fluid sand]

The max havoc you completed

In the Q&A does anyone know what strawhat meant by "Theme"?

"A Havoc Assignment’s difficulty is composed of two components, one is the static negative modifiers applied per Level basis and are additive so each Assignment will include everything from the previous one, the other part is generated per Assignment basis and includes the Mission, Theme, and mutators."

[vague marten]

I want to find a party for havoc. Go to the party finder from havoc and see this. Can't filter by havoc

how am I suppose to play a havoc mission if I can't find a party to play havoc?

[fluid sand]

and on that note does anyone have numbers or additional info on the player debuff and enemy buffs as you increase in tiers?

Like 1-10 are Malice 3, 11-20 are Heresy 4, 21-30 are Damnation 5, and 31-40 are Auric Damnation?

[leaden maple]

Is anyone else having to verify files every single time they boot up? Because this is getting FRUSTRATING.

[fluid sand]

you can decline the popup. It does the popup after every big update though. It's not necessary imo

[weary creek]

Auric is enabled from rank 16

[fluid sand]

so Auric is just the Emperor's Fading Light modifier then?

[weary creek]

No

Auric is just enabled in the background

From rank 16

They said that when they updated the rank for completing an auric maelstrom

[fluid sand]

I guess I never understood the difference between normal and Auric missions to begin with

[weary creek]

I mean auric is basically just intensity

If you really want to simplify it

[leaden maple]

Auric is there for when you hate yourself at 2am and you're junked up on caffeine and self-loathing and wanna get sendy with it.

[weary creek]

Auric ain't that bad

Havoc in the mid 20s is significantly worse

30s is outright bullying the player in some instances

[fluid sand]

basically just Hi-intensity on everything then? or is there more. Like after 1k hours I straight up can't tell the difference and the game doesn't tell me explicitaly

[weary creek]

Auric is basically high intensity yes

Auric Maelstrom therefore basically ends up being the high intensity variant of multiple modifiers

Hence you get waves of like 20 muties

Which is funny because Havoc doesn't really do that

It just spawns more everything

[fluid sand]

and is hi-intensity more hordes, more specials, or both?

[fluid sand]

oh gotcha

[weary creek]

High intensity denotes more hordes and specials

High intensity hunting grounds for example

You're gonna see waves of like 20+ pox hounds

Shock trooper gauntlet I don't remember the specific enemies it applies too

[fluid sand]

so basically doubles the normal version of a modifer

[weary creek]

Idk if it doubles

But the kill numbers are usually about 2x

[fluid sand]

ok just say that since there are usually around 10 pox hounds in each wave on normal iirc

w/ 2 waves per cycle every couple mins

So Emperor's Fading light isn't tied to 16+ assignment ranks? Or is that something else that auric missions do that isn't mentioned?

[weary creek]

Fading light is Havoc exclusive

And iirc comes in first at rank 16

And gets more extreme as you rank up

[fluid sand]

ya only 2 ranks of it from what I've heard.

[past rune]

Hey do I need to do havoc for each class to unlock their specific cosmetics?

[fluid sand]

nah its all account wide, including assignment rank and total clearance level

just like the penance redemption track progression rewards

It's not like M+ keys in wow

[past rune]

Oh bet

Thank you

[unreal falcon]

lads. not looking for total spoilers but perhaps a hot/cold

in the penance menu, the icon for the relic in the dark communion mission is, weirdly, ||the same icon as for some of the karnak twins penances||. the chick on the star at the center of the ritual is clearly ||rinda karnak or what's left of her||. assuming the icon isn't fatshark being fatshark, is the skull somewhere in the ritual circle?

[fluid sand]

Rodin is the one being crucified in the new mission

[woeful root]

press E
if you had prior selections taken in other menus, then it locks you out of selecting havoc for some reason

[unreal falcon]

i'm not sure about that. he was dead in the narrative trailer. i'm pretty sure she's talking to wolfer from on the cross star because she ascends at the end. but even if it was rodin, the icon could still be a hint innit

[shell shoal]

there's a relic on that mission?

[fluid sand]

I'm not sure which icon you mean. Rinda is alive and Rodin is dead is all I know. We stopped the ritual, but who knows why Rodin's corpse flew away in evil green warp magic. Maybe just teleported the corpse elsewhere?

[unreal falcon]

yep.

[fluid sand]

Rinda has the star on the helmet and Rodin has the nurgle symbol

[shell shoal]

like a skull????

where????

I can't find a penance for it

[unreal falcon]

that's what i'm wondering. but there's a penance for it if you go into the menu -> penances -> exploration -> scroll down to the carnival

but it's not the usual icon, it's a trophy with a knuckleduster

which is also used for karnak twins penances

could be a goof, could be a subtle hint

i also thought it might have to do with the giant nurgle bong behind the altar (because lmao) but if so idk how

[shell shoal]

OH

it has a different ICON

I see

fuck you fatshark

I was looking for this shit

[unreal falcon]

yeah lmao

[shell shoal]

but it's fucking THIS?

like okay! cool!

[unreal falcon]

but i have all the other carnival penances so it stands out

[shell shoal]

I am missing like 3

well okay now I gotta go get it I guess

it's not hard right

it's probably a duo one

[fluid sand]

Probably an oopsy from FS is my guess

[unreal falcon]

it's aggressively easy

[shell shoal]

wait really

is it soloable then

[unreal falcon]

the relic? idk. the mission? probs

[shell shoal]

I meant the relic...

[unreal falcon]

ah. yeah idk i don't have it either

and i wanna figure it out myself

[shell shoal]

I've done the mission it's not too bad except for like two parts, there's a bunch of walkways at one bit where sometimes a boss spawns and it's there solely so it can throw you off the ledge to your doom

there's also the opening with

some VERY linear flat terrain and a big wide area where gunners can just ping you from every direction

which sucks

other than that it's not too bad

[unreal falcon]

yeah no the mission's okay i kind of like it though i expected more of a climax after all the buildup

[shell shoal]

yeah

[unreal falcon]

but i guess we're getting that in the next installment

[shell shoal]

the fact there was no like surprise boss or something

is unbelievable

after the writers teasing it

they're like ohhh something's SUPER BAD GONNA HAPPEN!!!!111 and I was like oh really? then it was just nothing

[unreal falcon]

okay that does feed my other suspicion though

what if you break the shields but don't fuck up the stim tanks and let the ritual finish

literally just wait lmao

[shell shoal]

no clue

I would assume it just eventually runs out of dialogue and stops talking until you progress

I don't think fatshark is trolly enough to do some payday shit where you have to wait 2 hours or something

[unreal falcon]

nah but like

suppose the guy gets off the star and fights you, and drops the skull when you kill him

that'd explain the icon

[shell shoal]

lol

I have a feeling it might be in the very dark area but I am not sure

[unreal falcon]

yeah there's that one tiny bit that glows green

not grimoire or idol green

[shell shoal]

given some of the others if there were like three switches you have to hit in the dark or something to turn something on

yeah that might fit

[unreal falcon]

i can only fine-tooth-comb it so much in a party with strangers until i feel guilty for being so slow

even on sedition

[shell shoal]

I am gonna try find it now solo and if I do find it I will report back here

[unreal falcon]

wait you can do solo?

is that a mod?

[shell shoal]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/175

well, kind of, it just lets you start any old mission via a mission ID

it has to be one that started within the past 24 hours

I think if it's very recent too other people can join you

[smoky ember]

if u start one that’s more than an hour old its neigh guaranteed to be solo

[shell shoal]

but if it's a few hours(?) old then no one will qm in

yeah

[smoky ember]

the only other people that will load in, are other MMT users

[unreal falcon]

neat

cheers

[winged tulip]

New mission skull?

When you go down into the sewer, as soon as you come down from street level go right instead of left and there's a pipe you jump to, jump across things from there

[shell shoal]

... oh, so I was completely off

[unreal falcon]

yeah same

i was way overthinking it

[shell shoal]

I am gonna go see if I can find it now

[unreal falcon]

(i got it just now)

[shell shoal]

when I saw this power cell, and that unpowered area, I just started to think like man maybe I should see if I have to carry that the entire way through

I was like ohhh is THAT a thing, no I guess not

[unreal falcon]

overthinking gang gang

[shell shoal]

wow okay so

I found the stupid thing

I actually did step into the lower part of that and was like hmm this probably isn't it since I didn't expect the PIPE

ok gg

WAY easier than I expected

[idle kite]

when sacrificing weapons for mastery is it Quality over quantity or is there a sweet spot to make it cost effective?

[unreal falcon]

buy trash, make green, sac trash

but the same weapon as you're trying to master

[shell shoal]

yeah and guess what I think green and blue are worth the same XP

[unreal falcon]

i queued into a mission and let the other guy know i was looking

and he said he knew it and offered to tell me the medicae it was past

so he did and as soon as i saw the broken railing with the very jumpable pipe i was like "oh fuck me lmao"

[shell shoal]

yeah I was looking at the path below the pipe

[unreal falcon]

reminds me of the one after the bandit storehouse in The Pit mission from vt2 bögenhafen dlc

the grimoire that is

[shell shoal]

wait wait wait wait THAT'S A DIFFERENT ICON AGAIN?

WTF?

[vague marten]

thanks, that did it

[gilded horizon]

Its top of the line, it shoulnt even be able to cause issues, the audio starts stuttering randomly. It doesnt always crash BUT most of the time it does and it is annoying to deal with. Ive submitted a bug report, ive changed the options multiple times and its the same.

Only thing i havent done is reinstall the game

[ancient cosmos]

does rating on curios mean something or not?
I mean like 190 vs 220 and so on

[vocal nacelle]

Nope

[ancient cosmos]

ok thx

[patent jasper]

the only time it DOES matter is on a +3 stamina curio, where due to rounding errors it only truly gives +3 stamina ingame if its a 410 rating or above.

[fluid sand]

is there a reason why the havoc mode option is locked in party finder?

[vocal nacelle]

so people dont join midgame and there's 40 havoc mission

the party finder is a bit weird

[shell shoal]

I assume he's asking why he individually can't queue for havoc

and the answer probably is, you have a difficulty selected, unselect that

[thin crest]

does the assingment level reset each week too along with the maximum of the week

?

[ancient cosmos]

ok thx
is there only +1 wound or is there also +2

[patent jasper]

There’s only +1

[full haven]

What is up with the new patch my audio is cooked and I have crashed 5+ times a match and I just hard crashed on the loading screen while trying to load in after crashing

And is I just me or do you have less toughness and health in havoc my ogryn had their toughness reduced by almost half in a level 16 havoc

[patent jasper]

Havoc reduces base toughness to a max of -45 and base hp by 35%

However early on it’s only like -15 toughness and 10% hp

[knotty vessel]

☝️

[snow eagle]

Is there any way to play havoc solo

fr just wanna rush through this

[meager hemlock]

Is there a way to complete the "Banishment" Penance currently? It has Groaners listed twice as an enemy type I need to kill, and I'm unable to get anything to register for it it seems

[idle kite]

is triple Sniper damage reduction worth it?
i know they have diminishing returns but when having to take a stray shot from a sniper woud it matter?

[red ginkgo]

On higher diffs, the sniper will still chunk your health (unless you have gold toughness) so not really

Gunner resistance is actually more value depending on your playstyle

[shell shoal]

me I usually take 2x gunner 1x sniper

having a little bit of sniper resist will help a bit to maybe let you survive a stray hit if you get unlucky

but ideally like you can just dodge or even slide and they miss

whereas, gunners, are likely gonna be shooting you all the time no matter what difficulty you play

so having a chunk of resist, is pretty nice to have

[stoic locust]

Sniper resist is only really relevant for a breakpoint I ignore or full tanking the shot which is super niche

[hidden condor]

How does Havoc progression work? Lets say im at Havock 3 and i join the game of someone at havoc 15, do i get any progress on mine? Or vice versa if I'm 15 and i join a lower level one?

[shell shoal]

sigh

they have to do something about this crap

if you complete someone else's havoc 69 assignment with them in their lobby, you will become level havoc 69, except the game will not give you a new assignment until, I guess next week

so yes you do get progression

it's just that it doesn't replace your assignment with a new one

[hidden condor]

I see

So they designed it to piggy back off others

[shell shoal]

it's more that actually progressing is not like... you have to go up one level at a time

you could theoretically get carried to havoc 40 but like you have to unironically just be good enough to do it and have the right gear and build, you can't really be dead weight, so if you can do that much, you deserve to be there

[hidden condor]

I guess

Thanks for the help

[shell shoal]

no problem

they need to explain all this stuff better...

[hidden condor]

Ye

If only there was entire new screen they could use to put info in

Like commissar helper explaining

[shell shoal]

if only it wasn't pointlessly convoluted

the havoc UI design is utter shit imo

[hidden condor]

Everything about it seems so backwards. Should have been normal matchmaking, and each assignment has point value so as long as you do anything close to your level you get progression.

Now that i think about it are there any rewards for doing high level havoc? Or its just number goes up?

[shell shoal]

you get a weekly box with 'resources' or something the higher your havoc level is

and a few of the havoc penances have parts of a cosmetic set, but you don't even have to reach 40, at most you have to hit 25

[hidden condor]

I see

[shell shoal]

so basically even going to 40 is, just bragging rights

you can stop at 25, which is probably where most people will quit

[hidden condor]

So if you play for rewards (which i assume most people do) just get on discord with the havoc 25 party. Smite your way through and be done with Havoc.

[shell shoal]

well for cosmetics, I mean I guess if you REALLY want like as much plasteel and diamantine and dockets as possible you better be grinding to 40!!!!!!!!!!!!

(still not sure exactly how much you're going to get as a weekly reward but I am sure it'll be pathetic)

I bet it'll be like 100 per havoc level or something, maybe even 200, I am sure it'll be totally underwhelming

[hidden condor]

Which resources are on average a pointless reward for someone doing high level havoc

[shell shoal]

exactly

which really just contributes, to making it feel that much more poorly thought out

this is why many other games will just invent a new currency

like oh here you need Havoc Gems to buy the new cosmetics and you can only get them after, oh you know, so many weeks of havoc caches or something

[hidden condor]

Yeah but that would cost resources to reward people playing the game.

Just slam plasteel

[indigo turret]

Hey am I just going to have a blinking mastery orb on my psyker forever? Anyone know how to spend these?

[shell shoal]

haha

yeah, yep

known bug for a while apparently

people were hoping it'd be fixed with the dec 3rd update, but, nope

[indigo turret]

Ah well; thanks

[hearty solstice]

been a while, i just upgraded my greatsword to relic so why didnt the item level go up? its still at the 310 when i bought it

[void forge]

empower

consecrate doesnt affect power level

[hearty solstice]

ahh right, thank you

[vale vault]

Did the new update break the mod framework?

[void forge]

if you havent played in a while you might have to update dml

[vale vault]

I installed it literally right before the new update

It was working fine

[void forge]

at what point are you crashing

[vale vault]

Oh its not crashing, the mod menu is not appearing.

Like its not even installed, yet the files are still there.

[void forge]

did you run the batch file again? there was a hotfix

[vale vault]

Considering I dont know what that is, probably not.

[void forge]

every update you have to run the batch file again or your mods wont load

toggle_darktide_mods

[vale vault]

Oh alright, where do I find that?

[stoic locust]

It’s just in the game directory

[vale vault]

Cool ty

[stoic locust]

Steamlibrary->common->darktide

[vale vault]

Cool

Got it

It says its now patched to load mods

[void forge]

[vale vault]

Nice it worked.

[balmy nest]

Is there a decent up to date crafting guide? I'm finding it a little confusing following the journey from buying a grey wep to making it top tier. Is it still the case of a 380 base then upgrading it will take it to 500?

[patent jasper]

Upgrading will only give you the 2 perks and 2 blessings on a weapon, empowering is what actually improves the stats

[lost pulsar]

So does the reach havoc clearance penances only count if you are the host and hit certain levels? Or does assisting players at that level grant it?

[patent jasper]

It counts your highest cleared havoc mission, so even if you’re not host you’ll progress the penances

[balmy nest]

Ahh ok. But is it still best bet to get 380 base with the weights that you want, or does that not matter anymore? Is there any way to tell how itll be weighted before you upgrade a weapon?

[winged tulip]

All weapons show their fully upgraded potential now at any level

So damage might be 61/80 for example, 61 is current stat and 80 is what it will be at 500 item level

[balmy nest]

oh tHATS what that means. ok, thanks!

[winged tulip]

No worries

@balmy nest https://youtu.be/lcDOODFD56I?si=XynQnN1i_18N9zWX Hank made a video that might help explain things

[sleek echo]

Thanks for sharing this information. So is there any weapon with stats full 80/80/80/80/80?

[winged tulip]

No, points always add up to 380

So for more or less everything you want 4x80 and a 60 in your dump stat for the weapon

There's pins in the various class channels talking about what stats to dump for different weapons

[broken raft]

Hey, how do you check your progress on the do havoks/assist lowbies event

[winged tulip]

On PC you hold tab then hit E

[broken raft]

Ah cool

6 more

[lost pulsar]

Thank you

[upbeat drift]

best class for clutching?

[graceful raptor]

your hands

[hallow maple]

GUID: 427bd556-abf2-4bff-a93e-942542ac8e1a
Log File:
Info Type:

---

what could this crash be caused by?

[livid iris]

what are the high gray numbers if it can't reach that at 80%?

[livid iris]

i beg to differ

[winged tulip]

Rounding error

[livid iris]

i looked at it everywhere and it didn't change the values like it has before so i don'th think it is

i had one that fixed when you went into primary weapons of upgrading

[agile veldt]

kinda stupid question but:
how crit chance stack? For example, a zelot has 5% base crit, if my weapon has an additional +5% crit(from perks), the total is 10% or 5.25% (5% of 5% is 0.25) ?
Do different type of critc chance source stack in different way?
there is a cap on crit chance?

[graceful raptor]

addittive

[smoky ember]

its additive, so 2 sources of 5% crit chance are 10% crit chance

the only multiplicative source of crit chance is from left side piety

there is no cap on crit chance either

[calm pelican]

Damn, piety isn't just +25% additive?

[smoky ember]

left side piety

[calm pelican]

Oh duh lmao nvm

[smoky ember]

this is 10%

added to teammates

[graceful raptor]

33% of your crit will be additively added to friends, no?

even 66%

[smoky ember]

yah

probably

[agile veldt]

wait, does it mean that scourge add up to 30% crit?

[smoky ember]

yes

[winged tulip]

Yellow is the number you have, grey is the min and max value at 1 and 80 respectively

[livid iris]

but the yellow doesn't seem to reach the high gray number

even at 80

unless it has to be at 500

[patent jasper]

The highest gray number value is if the stat was at 100%

[graceful raptor]

it never will, dont worry

[livid iris]

so the devs are just dumb?

[patent jasper]

I mean I doubt we’re going to get a 100% stat anytime soon

Or ever

So generic fatshark womp

[shell shoal]

I could see it happening

[graceful raptor]

just a useless thing that confuses everyone, maybe they will introduce havoc 100 that will give all-100%-stats weapons but i doubt it

would be absolutely hilarious if there was a grey max DODGE COUNT stat that you cant reach even with 80% defense stat

[void forge]

ds5 could probably reach it since it has 2 stats that give dodge count

[exotic sedge]

guys what's the fastest way to level an alt?

[graceful raptor]

damnation + xp curios

[exotic sedge]

soo basically I need friends to boost me ;d

[graceful raptor]

as far as i know everyone play common mission board with randos...

[void forge]

quickplay also gives an xp bonus

[dense iron]

ive been upgrading my duelling sword but the stats are changing for some reason. When I first bought it cleave and mobility were 70 each but now its 68 mobility and 72 cleave can someone help me out?

[shell shoal]

okay I am getting really tired of the resource grind

done nothing but havoc for the past few days and it gives no resources

[exotic sedge]

maybe it gives an insane amount on weekly reset Copium

[shell shoal]

it'll give like, I bet it'll be like 2000 plasteel 1000 diamantine if you are havoc 20

[exotic sedge]

oh god pls no

[signal gate]

I heard good things from the testers about the rewards but i'm also going to wait and see

[shell shoal]

by rights it should be killer right

like oh well you invested clearly a lot of time and effort here you go

but it's probably balanced for a weekly sum that costs no effort to get

they wouldn't want to encourage anyone to NOT play the game, right?

[worthy comet]

if you're newer or dont play as much, the system is super grindy

this is where im at since playing from launch

[shell shoal]

yeah I am at like 300 hours and am horrifically poor

I have a handful of perfect fully upgraded weapons but a lot of just like midcore blue stuff

[simple leaf]

do you level up havoc rank if you play a mission bellow your max rank?

[shell shoal]

... no

if you play someone else's rank 2 while your clearance level is rank 69, it will not help you, it will not graduate you to rank 71

if you are rank 69 and you play someone else's rank 100 you will be set clearance level 100, but your assignment won't change until next weekly reset

[simple leaf]

ty

[simple leaf]

To whomever it may interest: when you complete your assignment in havoc you get a next level mission (16 to 17). You dont get your highest clearance level mission (20 for example).

[sinful summit]

Your clearance level (highest mission rank completed) is what your order will be increased to when the weekly reset happens, which can be seen at the bottom of that screen

[royal leaf]

what perk is better for dealing with hordes

just generic ones

[sinful summit]

Infested/unarmored/groaners would apply
I don't particularly recommend taking them tho, they end up being overkill regardless of weapon

[royal leaf]

my intention is to one shot enemies in a horde instead of 2 shot them

[sinful summit]

With what weapon

The blessings typically should be what does that

[smoky ember]

technically it’d be unarmored or infested, but perks shouldn’t really be meant for horde clear

[royal leaf]

i dont use my sword for much else

[smoky ember]

what sword

[royal leaf]

duelling sword

inb4 "there are better weapons for horde clearing"

[smoky ember]

what’s your ranged weapon?

[royal leaf]

bolter

[zealous dome]

You should get Rampage

With Rampage up you'll kill a groaner per swing

[exotic sedge]

guys why aren't my stinky addons working I installed frameword, mod loader and the mod loader update that should load everything without the text file thing

[sinful summit]

I mean that's true but I can't really stop you lmao
Perks may not help with poxwalkers but they may help with groaners, but depending on your class you may have enough damage bonuses to reach that anyway in a realistic situation

[void forge]

Did you run the batch file?

[sinful summit]

This is read as body/headshot/crit body/crit headshot
With each row going down being the 1st 2nd 3rd target and so forth with the last being the minimum damage for everything beyond that

[exotic sedge]

brother that is a very good question

oops HAHAHAHA

ok I ran it now

hopefully they work

[exotic sedge]

ok the loader and frameword worked but the others didn't monkaHmm

wait do I have to run the toggle for every new mod added or?

[ancient cosmos]

do curios perks stack?

[shell shoal]

this is actually useful, thanks

I didn't be bothered to test

but I guess that's that

[rough wigeon]

How do I open the havoc reward boxes? Can't claim the one I have

[shell shoal]

so if you do 'skip ahead' because you're pro you still have to just wait I guess LOL

next reset then you can take it

the stupid "click me" glow is just a tease

(yet another failure in the Havoc UI lol)

I love how all the information that you care about is scattered around the edges

[raw sinew]

Can somebody help me out with "just a flesh wound" just need someone to speed run with me

[shell shoal]

you should probably ask zealot chat

#zealot-class

[woven axle]

we're mean.

[lime idol]

Wait like 2 days

[meager hemlock]

Quite a few of my bestiary penances won't complete even at 50/50 progress. Is there a fix?

[rough wigeon]

[kind flame]

you still need help?

[shell shoal]

if he still needs help I can come too

[kind flame]

if he responds

[shell shoal]

he probably won't...

[kind flame]

shame

I yearn to do those penances

[round token]

anyone having sound issue?

[lime idol]

#📢news-bulletin message

[fresh jay]

Expanding on the audio issues, I see that’s just a fix for PC players. Is there one for Xbox. It’s borderline unplayable in its current state and I’m tryna grind.

[shy glen]

Maelstrom mission is always max difficulty?

[shell shoal]

yes

that is the point of maelstrom

[patent jasper]

iirc normal maelstroms can also have malice diff

and heresy too apparently

[smoky ember]

normal can be malice, heresy, and damnation

auric will always be damnation

[shy glen]

[polar dock]

Do I have to get my havoc assignment up for the weekly just noticed I wasn't getting mine up by joining lobbies

[graceful raptor]

after the timer reset

[polar dock]

Was meaning for like reward tier unless there isn't a reward tier for higher completion

[shell shoal]

you shouldn't have to ask this kind of question because the game should just make it clear

[proven robin]

I’ve been trying to get the “not even close” penance for a couple hours now. I could have sworn I bursted multiple hounds in the middle of their leap. Is there anything I could be doing wrong?

[graceful raptor]

keep gambling 🙂

90% stop just before they get it 🙂

[shell shoal]

not even close, huh

uh well you are using RMB right

I think you gotta use the alt fire to charge it fully then LMB when they're leaping

not like their warmup animation either but when they are in mid-air

it worked first try for me when I did it like a week ago, so uh yeah, it SHOULD work

[autumn stratus]

Exactly. Just keep spinning them gambling wheels. Darkest Dungeon has prepared me for this.

And Xcom...

[patent jasper]

I think if you do lmb the stun at halfway charge makes them not count as pouncing anymore

[undone garden]

do you have to do this in one game to get it?

[main citrus]

Weird question -- mostly just curiosity if someone knows. Longtime Tide player. Switched from an old 24" flatscreen to a 32" curved screen -- and -- my special sound direction finding is way easier. The obvious thing is it's way easier to see gunners and specials. The sense of where I am hearing them in 3d space is way better too. I'm probably going to puke from motion sickness -- but -- I can hear the game better from a real big screen?

[graceful raptor]

whats the question

[undone garden]

maybe wear some blue light glasses for the motion sickness, i've heard that helps a little. makes sense with the sound though, stuff has gotten wayyy better with sound in the recent years

[main citrus]

Why can I hear the game better with a giant screen? It's dope -- but giant and blurry -- and the sound just makes sense.

[graceful raptor]

cause you see more? (?)

[main citrus]

The fov is the same.

I played a shit tonne of V2 with 110 degrees.

[graceful raptor]

dunno then 🙂

[undone garden]

the screen has to have a better sound system lol

[main citrus]

That's the weird thing, headphones with 3d sound.

It's like it better calibrates to a huge screen.

[undone garden]

maybe the connection port itself is better, or it supports more of what your headphones have to offer

[undone garden]

agreed on that too, hell yeah

[main citrus]

Thanks, it's a real weird thing. Played Tide game for years and just wanted to make sure I wasn't straight tripping.

[undone garden]

lmao that is definitely fair!

[main citrus]

Wish I'd gotten the big screen sooner.

[undone garden]

i need to get a desktop in general😩 im running on a laptop

it works very well tbf

[lunar reef]

Do you get more weapon mastery the harder the difficulty?

[idle shoal]

What does Rending do specifically?

[woeful root]

A weapon has a base damage, and then it has armour damage modifiers (ADM) that affect the percentage of the base damage that it deals to a particular armour type (Unarmoured, Infested, Flak, Maniac, Unyielding, and Carapace). E.g., the force swords have an ADM of 65% against carapace on heavy attacks, meaning that it deals 65% of its base damage to carapace.
So, if a heavy attack deals 217 base damage, then it will do 217 * 0.65 = 141 damage to carapace.

+Rending% will increase that armour damage modifier number additively. E.g., if your attack deals 65% damage to carapace currently, then +30% rending means that you'll do 95% damage to carapace now. (So, 217 * 0.95 = 206 dmg)

Additional Rules:

• Rending% only applies to Flak, Maniac, Unyielding, and Carapace. That is, it does not affect Unarmoured and Infested ADMs.
• When you reach 100% ADM, rending%'s effect is reduced to 1/4ths after that. E.g., if your attack already deals 100% ADM to carapace, then +40% rending means that the ADM will be 100% + 40% * 1/4 = 110%.
• Rending% itself is capped at 100%. Let's say that you have tier4 Uncanny Strike, which should give 120% rending at 5 stacks. However, you will only receive 100% rending from it at max.

[weak void]

Anyone else been getting really bad audio glitches/stuttering?

[vocal nacelle]

The dumbed down version is armor piercing

[idle shoal]

Thank you! I hope you don't mind, i'm going to copy paste this for a friend's reference

[woeful root]

no worries
spread the message around (no need to credit either)

[sinful summit]

credit him against his will

[woeful root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925855860557746267/1148583910691836006/JMYS0W5RDOL7U41RPH.gif

[mystic frost]

Dumb question but if you were to join a havoc 25 then beat it, would you be rank 25 on the weekly reset?

[limber pagoda]

I think that's how it works, yeah

Good luck with beating 25 tho lol, I've been getting cooked by Havoc 22 so far

[bronze patio]

Very much a beginner question, but do y’all have any tips for the jump from difficulty 4 to diff 5?

Level 30 shout veteran running a recon lasgun and dueling sword

[rich cairn]

Just play the game tbh

If you want to get better at difficult 5, play difficulty five more

And get used to combos, how to position, reacting to sound cues, etc

[graceful raptor]

the more the difficulty - the less mistakes you're allowed to make

so knowledge and skill is power

[shell shoal]

yeah that's accurate

on damnation if you make 1 mistake it can be gg

[graceful raptor]

i am accurate

[shell shoal]

not always, I managed to come back from 2 players down on auric maelstrom earlier but it was pretty slow going

but, yeah mostly

[graceful raptor]

oh i thought you said that im not

[shell shoal]

lol

no I meant you are

[graceful raptor]

what no sleep does to a mf

just cleared my first 25 havoc and it went like butter throught knife

cause of the team and best positioning ive seen in a... a week, i get amazing teams a lot lately

no unnessecery rushing, rushing when necceesery

tis all about that

[mystic frost]

yeah just did a 16 off the bat and can confirm it works that way, it was both easier and harder than expected somehow lol

It does proc the penance before you earn the actual rank too

[vocal nacelle]

make a priority kill list ( what to kill first)

kill disabler /gunners with your recon , let other deal with horde

and throw krak at crusher/bulwark

also dodge more

[shell shoal]

what this guy said

you can be really useful if you're always lookin out to blow up specials before they become a problem

[vocal nacelle]

also you dont shoot recon at horde on damnation

[shell shoal]

unless you want to 1. be out of ammo 2. make every other gun-haver mad when you use up all the ammo

[vocal nacelle]

just because you can it doesnt mean you should (wasting ammo)

[shell shoal]

so we're all in agreement then

good

[vocal nacelle]

also build/fix the recon lasgun pick the appropriate blessing *cough **meta choice *cough cough

[graceful raptor]

headhunter + dumdum - being led by society
speedload + stripped down - being happy

[vocal nacelle]

headhunter + infernus, cwispy

[limber pagoda]

The sniper spam + tougher enemy + havoc difficulty buffed + superbuffed shooters + havoc player health nerf + no light combo is ridiculous

[tidal turret]

Yes and its making my game crashes sometimes 😢

[ornate thicket]

Cannot enter Mourningstart with my operative. The game loads for a bit, but then sends me back to operatives screen with errors 3001 or 3013. What to do?

Tried like 20 times...

[proven robin]

Wdym? To get it you just have to burst one hound in the middle of their leap.

[ornate thicket]

I entered! But after 10 secs on Mourningstart I got kicked back to operatives screen with error 2001. What?! How do I even start playing game?

[coral violet]

you can play the game through psych ward mod without the errorstar but that excludes you from running havocs(even if you're already in a group) and using party finder

or you could keep trying to find an instance that doesnt boot you. it will happen eventually

[ornate thicket]

Solved problem! Started game via launcher (was using launcher skip) and somehow it fixed the problem.

[boreal egret]

Is friendly damage higher on higher difficulties?

[coral violet]

there isnt any friendly fire in the game

if you dont count the barrel explosions

[boreal egret]

good to know thanks

[winged tulip]

Oh god can you imagine

[vocal laurel]

vermintide friendly fire in darktide

[glad lichen]

How do the havoc rewards work?

Seemed rather vague. I know they're rewarded at the end of the week, but is it a random drop or is it a set amount of rewards based on completion?

[calm pelican]

I'm having trouble choosing between recon las marks, are they all about the same, or is one just better?

[zealous dome]

@calm pelican

VId should be the XII
VIIa should be the XIV
II should be the VIc

[calm pelican]

ty!

[untold surge]

Would there be anybody willing to help with the malleus monstronum penance?

[vast zealot]

My friend started the game recently and has the same issue. Hope it'll be fixed soon... seems to be a bug?

[placid quiver]

Are the dlc missions like auric or also normal missions?

[little coyote]

can be found in both modes

[placid quiver]

And any specific marks to know if dlc or not? Aka mechanicus dlc?

[little coyote]

well they're not 'DLC' per se, just new missions added in patches. So no special icon or anything. You'd just kinda need to know which missions were there prior and which ones are new. If you haven't played the map in any difficulty yet you can find it by the lack of the difficulty chevrons under the mission image

these things

[void forge]

you can also track what missions you have completed via penances

[placid quiver]

Yeah, i just name em dlc because other games. But thanks jerk. And didn't know penances held specific stories.
Thanks both of you.

[raven pollen]

if you unlock havoc by doing a standard maelstrom (so you start from havoc 1), can you rerun maelstron on auric to boost your havoc level up to 16?

[little coyote]

Don't know for a fact but I'd believe no

[raven pollen]

that's doodoo

[little coyote]

give it a try if you've done the normal one

[raven pollen]

i just ran an auric maelstrom and it didn't go up, so im wondering if i maybe brainfarted and left it on standard when i queued. that's why im asking because i don't want to run another one

[little coyote]

ah

[limber pagoda]

Does brittleness affect all damage, or just damage vs armor?

Wanna try to run armorbane in havoc but I'm not sure if it'll apply to all enemies

[little coyote]

it'll apply to everything but 'unarmoured' afaik

[limber pagoda]

Hm
Getting mad at buffed gunners/reapers in particular, would it apply to dreg gunners and reapers?

[little coyote]

dreg gunners are unarmoured iirc, but reapers are unyielding

[limber pagoda]

Well I guess that's the best I'll get
...does the pus-skin buff count as an armor type?

[little coyote]

it applies to flak, unyielding, maniac and carapace

[limber pagoda]

Bah

Thanks

Guess it'll still help with the monstrosities

[lime idol]

Damage vs flak, maniac, unyielding & carapace

I have it written in my guide

[idle shoal]

What's the difference between "Infected" and "groaner/poxwalker" enemy types?

[shell shoal]

groaners are unarmored type, poxwalkers are infested type

it doesn't really matter though because they should pretty much die from almost any attack

you want unarmored for other reasons, killing dreg gunners and shotgunners and stuff

and you want infested for... basically no reason I think

unless you want to kill dogs EXTREMELY hard for some reason

[idle shoal]

Makes sense. On my melee weapons I've been taking Infected & Flak armor perks to round out horde-clear power, but I've never really understood what exactly counted as "Infected"

So if I want a perk to help with the horde clear of those zombie-esque fodder, I should take "unarmored" or "groaner/poxwalker" type?
I wish there was a bestiary

[mellow stratus]

I have multiple completed penances that won’t let me collect them

Is there a fix?

[meager hemlock]

Hopefully

[main marsh]

Anybody know if the if the immolation grenade penance is bugged? Or just counting kills in a weird way? Im getting like 30+ kills a game if im lucky. This is on heresy or damnation

So the hordes have alot of enemies in them

[wispy crag]

keep gettingbackend errors. cant sign in. anyone else?

[little coyote]

What I looked into it, yes. The forums have it noted as a known bug last I checked. The kills don't count other than if the immolation grenade flame also overlaps a barrel or enemy fire aoe

I've grinded it to 1070 kills already but I decided to wait until it's patched

[shell shoal]

oh

are you shitting me it's still not fixed?

I am gonna test this right now since there was an implication on the forum from a fatshark employee that it'd be fucking fixed

[main marsh]

ye i got it to 700

its the last penance i need

but im probably gonna wait for a fix

[little coyote]

they said it was supposed to be in the latest fix, but it was pushed to the next one iirc

[shell shoal]

wtf

honestly just remove the penance if it's THAT much work it's shitgarbage anyway

no one wants to do that shit

[little coyote]

half way there nevertheless already

[shell shoal]

gratz

I have like 40 out of 2000

good start

[winged tulip]

Yeah that penance is a nightmare right now

Sometimes you kill a horde and get like 5 kills on it

[shell shoal]

yeah I am skipping it

I decided to skip it and not torture myself with endless zealot

just for a junk penance that'll be easier Soon!™️

[patent jasper]

if everyones complaining about flame grenade penance im glad i got it when it actually worked

[shell shoal]

gratz

did it ever work?

I wonder if you just got it through sheer persistence

you can get it even now it's just HORRIFYINGLY slow

which is sad because I did.......... I think stun grenades or something recently and it felt almost like every grenade counted twice, it was absurdly fast

[patent jasper]

i mean zealot was my first class fully completed

and its only like lvl 50 rn

and i completed the penances back round lvl 30-40

[shell shoal]

wow

yeah it must not have been bugged for oyu

my zealot is 30 +21 and I still have to play another 43 matches with it AND kill 2000 enemies with fire grenades

[unreal falcon]

is it me or are dogs incredibly fucking broken rn

i can still dodge them just fine

if i push attack them it tends to work

but the past couple of weeks, if i just push, 99 times out of 100 i see the push connect with the dog and it still pounces me

[exotic sedge]

guys am I stupid or why are my addons not working I installed framework + load + the auto load extention + ran the batch file but the other addons I installed don't load up?

do I still have to add them in the text file manually

problem fixed I still had to add them manually I guess I fked up the second part of the loader one

[graceful raptor]

there is a file that add them for you in the txt

also a mod i think, i dont remember

[gleaming mantle]

with the revolver's hand cannon blessing, which grants 60% rending on crit, approximately how much more damage is that against carapace?

[exotic sedge]

yeah I got the mod but I proly didn't install it right or smth it's w.e tho I got them to work manually 😄

[graceful raptor]

some mods need to be installed manually

[zealous dome]

Yes

(around 500)

[gleaming mantle]

[sinful summit]

Beyond carapace it's enough to start one shotting things that wouldn't have been previously

[zenith pewter]

Is there any way, to block another players tagging?

I've run into several people using, I assume, the auto ping mod and dear lord the nonstop sound of tagging is unbearable

[late valley]

you can turn off the sound in the audio settings I believe

[shell shoal]

it doesn't bug me personally but I hope it IS someone spamming it with mods, not someone just super angrily like "YO KILL THAT NOWNOWNOWNW"

[zenith pewter]

it was either the auto tag mod, or they bound it to scrollwheel and have a mouse that they can just infinitely spin it with lol

the exact moment they hovered over anything it would tag, 0 delay

There is team ping sound in audio options, maybe that will work. Thank you @late valley

[late valley]

[vocal nacelle]

M1 tag

[wispy crag]

im crashing every single time i complete a level. something about "assertion failed world resourcemanager" or something

[vocal nacelle]

reverify the game from steam

[wary jungle]

is there a set bis curio for every class or does it tend to jump around for what kind of build you want?

[stoic iron]

2 toughness 1 hp is a good catch all but swapping one of those toughness ones out for stamina isn't bad either

[sour pulsar]

is there a new rarity of weapons called "sainted"? or is that just a mod

[void forge]

mod

[sour pulsar]

i see, okay btw i just started playing darktide again after a few months, im not sure how to increase a weapons stats to its max potential anymore

like how to fill that 80% bar

[void forge]

empower at hadron

[sour pulsar]

you mean consecrate?

[void forge]

no

literally called empower

if you can't then it means your mastery isnt high enough

I think you need like lvl18 or 19 mastery to be allowed to empower to 500

[sour pulsar]

ah i see thanks

is the thunder hammer usable now?

[vocal nacelle]

yesnt (niche weapon)

its always usable

[void forge]

yeah thammer has always been usable

[wet narwhal]

do you have to host your own assignment in order to rank up? I ranked up post game but it's still showing 16 for me

[sinful summit]

yes

however after the weekly reset, your new order rank will be the highest rank you have completed of others missions

[wet narwhal]

oh ok got it thanks

[distant prism]

my game crashes

without even launching

like i click play

and it crashes

[void forge]

do you use mods?

[distant prism]

yea

but i uninstalled

all the mods

if you can help me

it would be helpful

[void forge]

wdym uninstalled the mods

you couldve just used the batch file to turn them off

[distant prism]

i uninstalled the batch file

[void forge]

regardless I would just do a verify integrity if I was you

[distant prism]

i did

do that

it didnt help

[void forge]

welp

uninstall the game and do a fresh install

if it still doesnt work, idk it might be a driver issue or something

[willow totem]

yeah it happens, you had to remove mods using the batch file and then verify files again from fatshark launcher. Then freshly install mods again

reinstalling the game is not needed but it will work if you reinstall the game (after removing the mods as well that is)

[unreal falcon]

so i know that trying to do auric storm survivor in pubs is a silly exercise in futility, but if it was gonna happen, what's the class/build folks think would be most likely to do it?

i can't decide between shout vet and book zealot

[vocal nacelle]

pickaxe ogryn

[unreal falcon]

i mean without going easy mode

[patent jasper]

Go melekyer

[lost smelt]

So did everyone just forget how to dual wield in the 41millenium?

[sleek echo]

Hi guys, question, what is the best way to farm Diamantine? Any special level or stage ? Thanks in advance for the answers.

[spare rivet]

No, we just don’t have any of those yet

[icy crater]

With the whole punishment to leaving matches what happens if you join a game and get infinite loading screen bug?

[coral violet]

how dare you bug out this flawless game

restricted from queuing up havocs for 10 minutes

filthy heretic

[crisp dew]

Hi, I sometimes have visual bug with the bubble on the psycker I can close the game and restart to fix it but it can happen randomly at some point any idea how to fix it

[keen aspen]

if i have 63% in mobility and 77% in finesse instead of the 60 80 will that be ok or will there still be a big difference in performance ?

[lime idol]

Quick play damnation over and over, loot for loot spawn spots

[rigid wasp]

What decides if a curio will be 420 or 410

[shell shoal]

the hell is sainted

power levels are random

I have seen as high as like 430

[tough timber]

how do you get Sainted items what

[rigid wasp]

mod that turns ur max level weps red like in vermintide

[coral violet]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/380

[tough timber]

ohh

i thought it was a base game thing

[coral violet]

well its in the files

could call it a base game thing

[shell shoal]

that just sounds annoying

I don't need more rarities...

[unreal falcon]

so now that we've seen that crosshair indicators can exist for the soul/heat gauges of the bigswords

are there mods that do that for other blessings? i'm too busy cutting heretics to look down at the bottom of my screen to see if uncanny is at max stacks yet, and just moving all the buff icons wholesale to the middle of the screen is both ugly and distracting

[stoic locust]

That’s just one of the buff bars mods

Forget the name

[burnt snow]

Looking for recommendations for blessions for psyker inferno staff

[sharp breach]

Can someone explain to me how these havoc missions/ranks work? I want the cosmetics but I can’t figure this system out, are all missions offered by dukane havocs? Are havocs a specific mission offered by Dukane? I understand I have to complete havocs but I’m a bit confused as to which missions exactly those are

[burnt snow]

The havoc assignment rank is your personal mission rank, which is the level of mission you yourself can host, and there is a clear rank which is the highest you cleared

theres rewards for raising your personal assignment rank and helping others with their missions

[sharp breach]

So after having done the maelstrom missions I just play through dukanes table and I’ll rank up in havocs?

[shell shoal]

the rewards are:

• hat for 50 assists on other people's games (join their PF)
• chest for playing 50 havocs (any, yours, or other players)
• legendary pants for playing rank 25 or higher havoc

assignment rank is the rank of the mission dukane is currently offering to you personally, your highest assignment rank cleared is your clearance rank, at each weekly reset you get a new mission based on your current clearance

[burnt snow]

Yes but for your assignment rank to increase you have to have the party que for your specific mission

[shell shoal]

rightly so

[burnt snow]

But you'll get some rewards for helping people too

[sharp breach]

So how do search for a party cause the party finder doesn’t do anything, just lfg it on here seems like the better option

[shell shoal]

so you have two options to progress, spam your own assignment and go up 1 level per game, OR just join someone else's game that's higher rank than you and wait until weekly reset

[burnt snow]

you have to unselect all difficulty levels then select my havoc assignment in the top category

[shell shoal]

the party finder works, not that many people are hosting is the thing

everyone wants the hat, so they're all currently sitting refreshing party finder

[sharp breach]

Gotcha, well thanks lads I get it a bit more

[shell shoal]

and yes if you see this, press E

[burnt snow]

its like mythic keystone for wow, your assignment rank is your key level

[shell shoal]

or whatever bullshit your controller uses, I don't know anything about consoles

[stiff citrus]

About the Havoc party finder banners, what does the (+5) at the end of the title mean?

[keen drum]

Just started I picked vet shall I save my masteries and skill points

[shell shoal]

it means they picked 5 extra 'tags' for party finder after that

[shell shoal]

you can get your talents back for free whenever you want to spend them again and you get enough points to max every mastery eventually so it's fine to spend them however really

[patent jasper]

does anyone know if outright death counts for failing the no downs on havoc 35+

[sinful summit]

Yes

[brave barn]

which mod is best to change the FOV ?

I just want more fov while i play

[smoky ember]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/222

theres this

[brave barn]

YEa but doesn't it only change the weapon ?

[brave barn]

Does it increase your actual FOV ? Thanks btw

[smoky ember]

i think so

i don’t think there’s any others

[brave barn]

I see thank u

[graceful raptor]

do convulsing in smite enemies consider being staggered

[wary jungle]

so havoc missions just don't give much in the way of materials until the weekly reward do they?

[patent jasper]

The only materials the missions give are plasteel from heretical skulls

Weekly reward chest is the main reward from it

[shell shoal]

I am trying to do twins hard mode but

when I hit the last bell it didn't trigger

all the others gave me a sound to indicate I did it properly, so what gives

I just like solo queued into bottom difficulty

[little coyote]

there can be a couple reasons it didn't trigger. If you accidentally hit the bell before the last one too many times the last bell will not work for example

and explosions might trigger the bells too

[shell shoal]

... hmm

sigh

well I guess I'll try again

two people joined somehow mid-session so

okay well I would like to but I can't find an empty fucking lobby

[shell shoal]

wow

I got to it

then I got one-shot by a mauler at the very end

fuck this

[real lava]

In need of help to learn darktide and level up

[void forge]

try one of the LFG channels

lots of people usually willing to help out new players

[real lava]

I tried no one's willing

[vocal nacelle]

are you on apac?

[wanton surge]

Good morning/evening guys. Would anyone be willing to help me out with the auric storm survivor achievement? I really cannot get it with random teammates.

[autumn storm]

Hi on my screen on the weekly havoc completion has a yellow tick and max lvl 17 completed this week does that indicate my clearance

[verbal lantern]

I have some question about weapon rating: Is it based on how powerful the weapons is? Does equipping weapons that give higher overall rating means I get drops with higher rating?

[signal gate]

2nd part no

the power from the weapon comes from it's hard stats, not specifically the big number at the top

[cedar dragon]

Am i able to show anyone my build on zealot so i can fine tune it?

[prisma wraith]

I’m sure #zealot-class can help

[cedar dragon]

I've already messaged there.

[dense iron]

i just claimed my havoc rewards but i dont have them..?

im so confused do i have to claim them again somewhere

[shell shoal]

relog maybe

[bronze swan]

is it fine if I don't know what perk to put on my wep both melee and range should just slap maniac damage and flak on it

(for blessing idk what to pick either but ig I will have to see what it has and just pick whatever feel best ig)

[shell shoal]

it's probably fine

I mean each weapon probably has like a good one to do but that's like fine

better than nothing

[bronze swan]

what about unyielding and carapace

[shell shoal]

I dunno it depends

[bronze swan]

would it be too specific

[shell shoal]

carapace is like, mauler, crusher, rager chest

that I can think of

it depends on the weapon but like flak is a lot of enemies you will be killing all the time and maniac is like dreg rager I think and flamers and stuff so that's nice to have too

what weapon are we talking about here

[knotty vessel]

Hey do you get any material rewards for havoc at end of week?
I thought I saw it rewarded me with 15k plasteel for making Havoc Lvl31 but it's not in my inventory

[shell shoal]

how much plasteel do you have right now

[knotty vessel]

188