#gameplay-help
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the combo attacks of ragers can't be spot dodged, so they're a menace in melee
you can block and dodge at the same time, you'll block one axe and dodge one when they swing both weapons at once
dodge sliding will get you of their range pretty reliably
but yes usually weapon specials have high amount of stagger or ignore rager's super high stagger resistance they have in their melee combo
catachan sword probably has the best one
you parry their attack do a ton of damage and normally knock them over
i got a question and wondered if anyone on here knew. with the psycker, is it possible to tank a crushers overhead attack if you had all block efficiency curious and the perk on a blazeforce sword + deflector blessing, with the kinetic deflection trait?
Which weapons are u using
You need weapons reliable stagger to break them out of their combos
Hold block, dodge slide backwards to get out of range, and hit them with a reliable stagger to break their combo
second question. do toughness curious apply AFTER your class. meaning if you picked two +15 toughness modifiers would the curio apply to the before total sum of toughness?
not sure i worded that right.
chainswords and Heavy swords, so no stagger special sadly
it's not like Im getting stomped by ragers though, was just wondering one ways to deal with them outside of ranged
For chainswords, hold block to tank their combo, dodge slide back, rev up then push atk into their head (force staggers them as it rips)
For heavy swords, hold block, dodge slide backwards, then use heavy overhead attacks on them (should be able to 1 hit kill Dreg rager if built properly)
If you have bloodletter blessing on your chainsword, you can dodge cancel the revved attack and the bleed DoT will still kill them
ye
Curios give +% toughness which is applied after your talent tree
Example:
Veteran base 100 toughness
+15 toughness & +25 toughness from tree (140 total)
Adding a +16% toughness curio will give you 140x1.16=162.4 toughness (+22.4)
crusher overheads and a few other melee attacks are special-cased to be unlockable and will always go through your block unless you're an ogryn running the shield
Overhead attacks are unblockable but doesn’t mean it’ll always down you
If you have enough stamina to tank it with a block, it’ll drain all your stamina
this is all useful information for me, thank you
this sounds like testing this will be sketchy lol
sniper shots are also unblockable by Deflector
another thing about Deflector is that the block cost reduction in the description applies only to ranged attacks and not including melee attacks
i just found that out unfortunately lol
You can block mauler, crusher & captain overhead attacks
It just drains all your stamina if you successfully block it
no
If not, you go down in 1 hit lol
i don't see anything alluding to being able to block block-bypass attacks in that description
Ah ok
just stuff describing how the peril calculation for blocking attacks works
the amount of peril generated is still scaled by block eff and all that, but it'll still go through your block
Are there like different kinds of unblockable attacks then
they should be all the same i think?
at least patch 12 and before there was grimalackt's post about that
Scab captain’s mace overhead can hit u but not instantly down u
where all the unblockables had the "block bypass" thing
i think the captain's overhead doesn't do that much hp damage so it's not as intuitive
lemme see
Hmm, can you parry? Would that work?
Perfect parry can tank crusher overhead
Noice
oh yeah dclaws exist
yeah the scab captain's overhead can be survived even by a psyker
roughly 85 hp damage
a non-perfect parry can also tank an overhead albeit costing significantly more stamina
Convoluted
Which I don't think it is, mind
It explains that there are two elements to it to give the total damage, and that the perk modifies only one of those parts instead of the sum, the sum being the expectation
On yours, I don't really understand what is referred to as weakspot and why the result inside the parentheses is being multiplied by the sum of weakspot and body
It’s basically this
Yes
Is there any recommendations for me to farm plasteel?
quickplay the highest difficulty you feel comfortable doing
Damnation + quickplay
Does anyone know how to unlock hard mode for the Karnak twins? I have looked up multiple guides saying to just hit the bells the correct number of times then beat the mission, but I've done that several times already and I cannot get the bells at the beginning of map to spawn. Not sure where I'm going wrong.
You need to have beaten hard mode once to have those bells spawn I believe
anyone know to turn on enemy's hp bar so it become visible
mods
You need to hit the bells spread throughout the map to trigger hard mode, if you beat the mission you get the bell skips at spawn
I’ve done this a few times now. Pretty sure it’s bugged since the 2nd to last patch it’s even been reported on FS forums about a week ago. Thanks for the responses though.
Trying to get on overwatch done for my veteran. Any advice on build before I look for a team?
This vs Helldivers 2??
Fell for the bait.
the ability to see if people still actually like this game compared to helldivers (me)
Hd2 look boring to me 🤷
Wait helldivers has no orgryn this argument is over i like just realized that
i wanna say they're very different games
Absoluutely different games
Tbh I prefer Darktide, Helldivers 2 still needs better weapon balancing. At the moment you can just learn to place your airstrikes and it's GG.
Play passively, let your team know what you're doing, be aware that you can take toughness damage, only hp damage counts
Careful with enemies behind you, careful with dogs, who do almost instant damage
To build on this advice, you can take one melee hit at MAX toughness. At any toughness below 100%, melee will bleed through and invalidate the penance. The extra toughness you can gain from the relevant Vet and Zealot abilities will bump you above 100% and let you take some extra hits without the bleedthrough.
actually right now I think there is a bug where if you have the buff from VoC you will be immune to ranged health damage
this works with both gold toughness generaters and includes even enemy flamers
Get a group of friends, commit suicide at the start of the mission... friends complete and you get penance

worth it ?
for to only farm the blessing ye
ah ok i meant to run with, didn't know if damage had a breakpoint till it did next to nothing
IIRC that was fixed no?
when?
I did it in early january
What they fixed was the zealot one
the suicide method was funny so I did it in a gorup here
the one with 90% accuracy is such a pain, i am pretty sure that shooting the void shield count as a miss...
yeah it does
that explains why
same with bulwarks
we did a melee only auric scab melee
I just did a thing of the carnival with a plasma gun
and i was pretty confident i could just dump my revolver on the shield and get the penance... i did not
i should probably do that hmmm
remember no survivalist
yeah
not a pb
the best would be heresy low int, i could speedrun the hell out of it until the last event
What weapon Ulgo use for 90% accuracy penance?
The Vet one ?
Plasma gun
If shoot charge shot at bulwark, count as hit

Hmm hopefully teamate help Ulfo
Other guns counts as miss
Ulgo use shovel
Shovel good with gun, not as main dps
Ulgo learning moveset like Ulgo learn rapiers in vermintide 2
Ulgo say thank you little one!
True.
If you wanna do the no hit one you need to do low intensity mission
HOW YOU READ ULGO MIND?
Dear, sweet brute...
removes my sinister mask, revealing a mirror
I AM ULGO!
YEA! BUT I IS THE, eerr, REALIST ULGO!
OOOOHHH
@candid sparrow this might be the better space to ask. Ogryn clubs, I assume?
yes
Ogryn chat also works, I suppose 
and i actually meant to post in #ogryn-class
Hey guys, i’ve been trying to figure out how to use the no respite blessing but I’m having trouble to understand It’s effects. Anyone have any tips about wich weapon to use it on?
best used on weapons that autofire by default, so that enemies get more and more staggered as you shoot at them
and by staggered I mean flinch, full stop, get pushed back, then knocked to the ground
the more powerful your attack, the faster the enemies cycle through those stages of stagger. in the end there is no real strategy to the blessing on some weapons, it's just a passive damage buff
I guess it also combos well with any other way to get enemies knocked down, like push attacks, crowd control ultimates etc.
Or free self from mortal coil at the start
Let lil ones carry
turn corner
five trappers fire at once and get the entire squad
i guess you win that one director
Most devious lick yet
i can help
My bad I already left the game a while ago.
No prob, hope you got it
Hey guys just moved up to Heresy on a vet, done x3 so far and havent lost yet but I was wondering if anybody hd any tips/advice?
(wanting to get gud with the las if possible before moving)
my man thanks so much, blessed be me
👀
Oh it's done? 
veterans take a knee and show some respect this man just dropped the bible
man i use to swear on that powersword
i forced myself to use the catachan sword and holy FUCK i would have never thought I’d be casually metal gear rising a daemonhost and take 0 damage
good doc
It was published in pins at vet chat for like 14 days ago.
Havent really been updating it too much recently
Lack of motivation, time. most of my time in learning, doing tech related things went into a new pc.
The real update i wanted to do was this.
Its a BP calculator that can use talents.
The main thought process with this is that i felt the orignal testing was flawed in how perks where valued. There is alot of room for user error when im testing multiple perks, talent combinations on veteran weapons. Espically when considering how long i was spending time doing that.
A program is easier, provides more trustworthy information.
The faults of the documents information can ultimately then be traced to flaws in the programming of the program rather then me being bad at testing things thoroughly. Some minor damage values will likely however be wrong in the program by a couple decimals due to weird fatshark logic in the game, that i cannot quite explain.
How is it that I get ultimately the best possible roll on weapons, and when I go into a damnation level mission, it take multiple reloads just to kill a small group of Pox Walkers. What am I doing wrong here?
what ranged weapon is this
Krourk Mk V Twin-Linked Heavy Stubber
In Malice and below it rocks, but damnation, it's weaker than spit wads.
i need darktide help, game been acting real slow for me lately, black screen after the title screen and my characters arent popping up until minutes later, also dialogue is delayed. does anyone else have this problem or do i need to install it on my SSD?
Use shield for walkers

TYVM. I am not talented with the shield.
I install all my games to the SSD NvMe. IDK what it is like installing to "not" an SSD.
i only have 500gigs on my ssd so i try to be sparce with it
i'll switch to my ssd and see if its faster
malice enemies have lower health than damnation and krourk have the lowest accuracy 
I begrudgingly hate how fun and strong the hobo knife is
The meth addict sharp metal
Hey guys! Just a quick question. Just recently found out that you can use the special action while having the medipack or ammo crate equipped to aim at intended recipient. When I try to get close to another player that doesn't have any ammo crate or medipack and press the left and right mouse button while aiming with either of the two nothing quite happens. Does anyone know what it was supposed to do and how to make it work?
Hold the special key, get close to your target, release special key
OHHH so that was what you were supposed to do. Thanks a lot!
where do I report getting stuck below the floor
it's pretty cozy down here but it's also kinda cramped
fatshark forums would be your best bet
are there any missions where dregs are guaranteed? or they are more common on certain difficulty lvl
nope , RNG but try the water supply mission or dessert maps
Hey guys, iam just back into the game after year, deleted my old char for fresh experience.
What class do you suggest for first leveling ?
I prefer melee over ranged but id like to do some kind of hybrid build kinda.
Zealot, Vet or Psyker ? I dont care about meta/op class.
And yeah id prefer playing with autogun+sword or revolver+sword
Thanks for any advice and have a nice day ❤️
Sounds like Zealot is the way to go then
I'd prefer uprising difficulty if you're just going for contract completion, they don't switch up between dregs and scabs halfway (so you'll have to leave and remake if you see scabs) and there arn't that many people who do lower levels so you can dispatch them in the method your contract requires
If you love melee, then have I got the path for ya!
Make a Zealot, and then glance at the talent tree.
See the picture of the guy on the left, going absolutely apeshit while swinging his sword? There's the right playstyle for ya, my friend!
My own build uses an Mk.XV Eviscerator coupled with a Kantarel (sp?) shotgun. Surprisingly viable at long range. Ultra fun to play. I get to cannonball into a horde, body parts fly all over the place, and I come out covered in blood and somehow miraculously alive to the surprise of everyone. 🤪
Ok so quick update on this:
This only happens when I play Veteran-
It runs PERFECTLY fine when I play Psyker Ogryn or Zealot
Any Recomendations to keep frames consistent? I Like the way my game looks its just that I will get huge frame drops and It effects my proformace. I'm starting to worry if its dragging my teammates down
Would anyone be able to help me complete a penance It’s the one for ogryn where I need to charge 40m in 20secs
You can complete it solo
Can’t start a private game by myself
Forgot about that part
lol yeah it’s annoying
I can help with the penance
I’d appreciate it man
My code is there, just send an invite over
Sent request
Pretty sure it has to be in heresy or higher?
Double checking
I have a question and this seems like the right place to ask it.
So a couple games ago a pack of hounds whiped our team. Exept an Ogryn. He just kept throwing them off after a while of them chomping. So I was wondering if this was like a new update? Or if he's using a talent of some sort. Or if they're using an exploit.
Feel free to @ me cause otherwise I won't notice a response.
A late taunting shout could knock them off
A well timed mid air slap/melee attack could stagger them off
Sometimes other mobs such as bursters and chargers could knock them off too
I do know that. Nothing did I am sure of it.
Only one of the like 6 timed a pox burster jumped on him
Could you do that on the ground?
Not exactly but if you trigger a taunt, then got jumped before the animation, the animation could pop after knocking the dog off
iirc there's a talent in the "feel no pain" keystone that pushes back enemies on depleting stacks, including dogs
Oh that would work too
The zealot tree also has something similar
its the feel no pain talent
Coolio
Thanks you all for your input
hi can anyone help me complete special mission secret difficulty?
It's Pained Outburst
someone can help me with the cliffhanger penance? and i'm glad you help, of course
Ogryn good fight sleepyhead
Is not sleepy man, is sleepy hairy tick! Big hat man say no hairy ticks allowed
now thats a cliffhanger 
hey can someone help me with the malleus monstronum penace? its only for private games
y
How would I know if I've unlocked hardmode? Will the bells be there even if I'm solo or did I mess up the bells and have to try again?
If hard mode is activated, the Karnak twins will have red wreaths around their heads in the final arena
•_•
Do u mean unlocking the hard mode skip bell? Or activating the mode
Hard mode skip bell
I unlocked it then died because they attacked me during the cutscene and I check solo and the bells weren't there
I think you need to have beaten hard mode at least once
I have
although not after unlocking it
Some maps have enemies spawning infinitely on the last session of the mission, Hab Dreyko for example, make every shot count
Revolver
Alr hopefully I get it done
This penance sucks ass
Make a build that doesnt generate ammo and has mostly melee talents and use a plasma gun. Use all your ammo on hordes and then go melee.
Or take a weapon with low ammo count like one of the revolvers, mag dump into a Monster or any big target like a Mauler and then fight the rest of the game in melee
One message removed from a suspended account.
#vox-lfg-lexicanum would be your best spot
Any help on completing on overwatch penance for vet
what's the point of having a melee build zealot if psyker crystal build can do the same horde clearing but 10x faster/better? im new to the game and i only have a zealot and i just see the psyker crystals go brrrr and kill everything and the heavies too
They fall off on higher difficulties and have bad armor pen, they also build of peril fast and have "limited" shards before it needs to recharge.
They're good at clearing chaff but you know a good assail user from a bad one when you drop a crusher in front of them
Since zealots don't have blunt weapons, there's always a point
(except they have two blunt weapons)
Crusher and the 2 Thundher hammers ?
Yeah, FS should add a morning star with a special to the belly with a follow-up to the head
psyker is a glass cannon
zealot can yolo better than psyker in higher difficulty
But why would you play anything but shield ogryn, since you can be invincible with it?
Assault shards are very overpowered for lower difficulties but will fall off (to a more balanced level of strength) in higher difficulties due to having to deal with more flak armored enemies & elites (both take multiple assail shards to kill) and that assail spam builds a ton of peril for the amount of dmg they inflict
Psyker has really strong horde clear options in high difficulty, assail isn’t really at the very top of that generally speaking
Then what is the zealot good at? I’ve only seen it do stealth knife ninja builds but other than that it seems like a watered down Jack of all trades class?
Until death + holy revenant allows you to heal yourself and prevent being downed
Zealot has a ton of +crit chance related talents that makes you do absurd amounts of damage while having very short ability cooldown
Fury of the faithful is an extremely strong ability against just about every enemy in the game
Martyrdom gives you an extremely high boost in melee dmg & attack speed while making you basically unkillable in conjunction with zealot’s multitude of dmg reduction talents
Also zealot’s blitz options are super impactful and can very often save runs
I’m not remotely close to being great at zealot but he’s by no means weak
a tanky melee-focused class
you have a lot of deterministic survivability tools at your disposal
Ahhh mebbe my build is wrong cus I just put talent points into whatever(the left side of all 3 trees) cus I be in there hacking and slashing and surviving but I feel like I kill a lot slower and have less impact lol
At least you're not running off and dying
LOL
true better than being a stupid stealth zel trying to speedrun
i wouldn't exactly call psyker a glass cannon
unless you purposefully dodge every bit of survivability
Psyker has few passive defence, but can have a lot of active ones
does mael give better emperor gifts or is it just challenge and increased dockets/crafting mats
Psyker is fully a glass cannon,
You do a fuck-ton of offensive/defensive capabilities but the moment the enemies catch up to you they'll beat your ass in a few seconds lmao
So true. My melee psyker is so strong but woe me if I fuck up a dodge
On My clutch list psykers are usually at the bottom
question. sincere, not just shit talking. how the fuck is the gun psycher good? ive never seen a good one and ive met many. a few who had clears on twins hm even. but whenever i play with them they always eat up all the ammo and then die. why take it over a staff with infinite ammo and high damage?
is there something im just not understanding with them?
probably
Depends on the gun but they make excellent boss killers, and kind of have absurdly high dps but people don't know how to play gunpsyker and just BRRRRRRRT
so its a playstyle thing?
Oh yeah gunpsyker is extremely player dependent
like, boss dps role?
It can deal with a lot of things but it's really good at experimenting bosses
Gun Psyker has very high damage in relation to crits but is also a “ride high drown low” kind of playstyle
It can almost instantly kill everything u point your gun at and is debatably Psyker’s best boss dmg option
so im gathering it has to be run right for sure, what would be the second best option?
It also is dependent on finesse guns to make best use of its crit/finesse bonuses
Overall strongest psyker builds are probably voidstrike & blaze trauma
I like gunpsyker it's goofy
so i have kinda left my zealot behind, (165) and started maining psycker (100), i been using the surge staff with a crit build. and it seems to get crazy dps along with its fire rate. should i switch to the voidstrike?
Smite has some good elite killing so if you're enjoying the weapon stick with it
Surge staff is probably the easiest anti-special staff you can use
i like that it stuns dudes so if im overwhelmed with like 20 crushers i can go back and forth until my team can save my squishy ass
and thank you all for the info. much appreciated.
Homie knows more than me but I know a little lolol but you're welcome
Voidstrike could 1 shot a lot of things with crit build & surge blessing but charges slower
What build should an ogryn bring to the Twins
I've been bringing a shield and nobody on my team seems to understand "I will tank the bosses kill them please."
What is this "tanking" you mean? Like, what do you do in that fight?
Aggro bosses via taunt or shield bash, maneuver female (melee) and ranged (male) bosses into line with one another, use shield special to no-sell all attacks (usually trying to get a wall to my back to prevent chaff smacking me)
Bully club with a Ripper gun, or a Stubber (Stubber I'd only take on Gunlugger)
What makes it really aggravating is that the female boss is impossible to dodge as an Ogryn
It's not like Ogryn has to worry terribly with taking Toughness damage during that fight, anyway, as long as you take appropriate skils
Aggroing the bosses isn't... terribly necessary. What matters the most during that fight is that the bosses are constantly damaged, and that if one shield is down, the other one is taken down shortly after the first one.
And preferably focusing only one of the twins at a time - splitting the damage between their two health bars doesn't really benefit you in any way
Yeah well I have a ton of HP and toughness and she still two-shots my toughness bar
Bring teammates who understand what their roles are
I pug
gunlugger with achlys and fire damage kills Rinda rather quick, and after that it's pretty simple
What counts as a down for dreamteam penance? Does a teammate falling off a ledge but getting helped up count as a down?
If I'm not mistaken, Rinda's shield takes more ranged damage
Yeah
Why does some enemies in Maelstrom have this visual effect?
What effects does Maelstrom apply to enemies? That will answer your question.
Nurgle's blessing, that's the answer
So are buffed enemies then, with more health and damage I supose.
And stun resistance, bane of smite psykers
The biggest problem with Nurgle blessed enemies is that they are practically unstaggerable
the fabled blessed scab trapper is a sight to behold
I never noticed any difference when fighting those with my Zealot, perhaps because of the chaos around.
I just played like two times in Maelstrom.
Thanks for explaining.
Blessed Monstrosities are a problem
I love blessed monstrosities
Blessed dogs are a problem
Let me at em boss
just trade blows and toughness
imagine the blessed poxbursters that thankfully didn't ship 
Green dogs have lower resistance to push, though, so they are not that big of a nuisance (unless they catch somebody far away from their team)
Just make Poxbursters weaker to push (via a multiplier in that state) while they are airborne and their green variant wouldn’t be nearly as problematic 
nononononononononono i had forgotten it was a thing
i am glad some people playtested that
i remember blessed mutant keep punching my teammate until he died
Yeah when they would just keep on slamming 
Is there some kind of roadmap or any updates we know of for the endgame of Darktide? Right now it feels a bit shallow in the end game 😄
so a bit more waiting until a hopefully less cryptic statement releases 
Yeah, a classic "next week"TM
you can expect more detailed comms about any one of those updates when it's close to release
that's how Fatshark works, no details until it's almost ready to go

What mods allows to see teammates setups on tab? Basic scoreboard?
Loadout Monitor IIRC
to many people dont know this including experienced players but: if you hold a stim or med/ammo kit then press and hold your special action button ( chain sword rev up for example) and aim at a person, theyll highlight green, then release it, it gives it to the person. tell your friends.
any one know if the fire shotguns incendiary round can also cause bleed with flechette?
Yeah, they can
What's a good lvl to try heresy and damnation lvl missions?
Seen a lot of people looking for players able to run those
whenever you feel like you can consistently get rid of most horde/elites/specials(at least one of those) and not soak up random damage
Generally once the difficulty you're on feels almost like cakewalk, you should be good to try for the next
low int damnations are easier than heresy so those might be good to get accustomed to breakpoints
Roger thanks
Is there a loadout system ingame?
Top right corner of the uh
The loadout screen
You click the + and it clones your loadout into another slot
I think the base game is a max of 5 loadouts, but there's a mod to extend that amount
Thanks
Sorry if this the wrong place to ask but I'm having some trouble adding mods, I added the framework and loader... then followed the instructions about placing the mods into the correct folder... add it to the load order list and then when the game starts it simply crashes out. I dont suppose anyone else might be able to assist with this.
I am in https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1162145458114801725 currently if this gets complex or a shared screen is required.
Can anyone explain how I start a private game to unlock the dont stop me now penance?
In the mission terminal you have the option to turn on private games
Do you get more rewards for doing auric matches than you do normal ones?
Mostly regarding plasteel and higher rating weapons?
I believe you get more Exp(useless) and dockets. Besides that plasteel and emperors gift stay relatively the same
No
A normal HiSTG damnation match has the same XP & docket payout as an auric HiSTG damnation match, and the plasteel spawns are around the same
hello folks
looking for someone who can 100% surely do the twins mission on damnation and do so with me in their party
Go to lfg channels
chslipmip
wait, what????
except the fire has infinite cleave and not the bleed for some reason
Wheres the strategium at?
my friend cant access the armory without visiting it and I dont remember
unless he has to be solo
Restart the game.
The carnival cutscene overrides the strategium cutscene
Making the armory locked
^^
hey new player here when do the skins in the shop refresh?^^
there's a bit delay, should be today
ok but in genrel how long does it take ?
they said today, if we are following usual shop refresh time around 7-9 hours later
oh no sorry
maybe i prahsed it wrong
i wanted too know how long a shop refresh takes time so if its today how long does it usaly take for a new one
like 1 week 2 weeks 1 monht
2 weeks
oh nice thanks^^
How do people farm good blessings
there's 4 method :
- get grey / green weapon upgrade to blue and pray you get the blessing you want
- check melk 24hr shop and pray you get the weapon + blessing you want
- buy from melk and pray you get the weapon + blessing you want
- play special assigment where you can get orange weapon in 7 min and pray you get the weapon + blessing you want
and its all RNG
if you want to min max a certain weapon with best blessing and right perk you need around 10-15K plasteel
unicorn blessings are not included T4 warp flurry for staff , T4 power cycler power sword, T4 Surge on voidstrike
darktide kept crashing so I tried to figure out what’s the issue
my computer determined it’s not a game but instead a dangerous application
so if you are crashing or can’t open the game you need to clear it from your antivirus
In case people think they can’t launch it
Avg in particular is known to cause issues
I recommend not using any 3rd party anti-virus programs, Window's own is perfectly adequate nowadays and anything else is usually more trouble than benefit
Windows is what’s telling me it’s malware
Probably tripped something with the hotfix I mean it’s always something
Simple fix tho thankfully
Right, suspected as much but with the mention of AVG had to say something 😄
Anyone know if the many more try mod works with the special assignment (Orthus Offensive)? I can't seem to get it to work.
Why are you trying to get it to work? The mod was originally made so that you could replay a mission with its modifiers intact but orthus offensive doesn't have modifiers so it seems kind of pointless unless you just want it for the quick replay feature
To play it solo
You can't play solo unless you're offline or have friends willing to get in a private game and then die
Supposedly with these mods you can
You need a minimum of 2 people in a strike team to start a private match afaik
The mod for solo missions is called solo play
It puts you in an offline game
Yeah I know of that mod but I am following a guide that just uses many more try to play solo online as you can still just start a match using the commands
Just wondered if anyone had been able to use many more try to start orthus offensive
From the mod creator in his comments " This mod has never been used to play solo. It's not possible, people join any public games anyway. The best you can do is choose missions that have expired for at least 1-2 hours, so others unlikely join"
Alas
The orthus offensive doesn't expire, people will join regardless
Damn, hopefully they just add solo
Yes, people have been asking since release though so unlikely
It's to conserve server load or something like that
Really want to like this game but so many good things from VT2 left out, hopefully they'll be added in time
It's sub par bots iirc
I'll happily play with crap bots lol
Would rather have some version of solo than none at all
Would be nice if that mod worked for orthus, would love to explore the map rework
you can with the solo play mod I imagine
Can someone help me get the Don't stop me now penance for ogryn?
quick question waht does exp do after lvl 30?
Nothing
repair missions are a myth
swag
whats the fastest way to mass update my kmods
mod manager I would guess? idk I just manually update mine
What does the Hammerblow blessing actually do?
impact = more stagger
so if a move doesn't have stagger does it essentially do nothing?
yeah though it should be a measurable benefit on most weapons that do have hammerblows
dclaws would being the example in my head that it wouldn't quite be good with
and the fact that it's better to take damage blessings anyways
besides the crusher where you only have 1 damage blessing
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/3935643263192722486/
Tldr post is asking about shield of contempt cd, if its per player or as a group, the post hasn't concluded in their testing and im posting it here to see if someone has tested if it is shared in a group cd or individual player cd. 👀
It states "When you or an Ally in Coherency takes damage, they gain +60% Damage Reduction for 4s. Triggers every 10s." Does this mean that it triggers only once every 10s for the whole group (like if I get hit, I get the 60% DR for 4s, then if people are getting hit 10s later whoever is hit gets the 4s DR), or does the CD enact separately per pe...
It's per player afaik
It’s individual 10s cooldown for each of the 4 players, and could trigger on all 4 players at once
So is there a way to stealthily bypass enemy patrols or quietly take out hostiles?
there are some patrols that you can ignore but either that horde events aggro them anyways or the map design is so linear that you can't avoid them
and pubs spreading out anyways
tfw no vermintide shade backstab chain
what does this sentence even mean
it was the funny backstab chain
you would stealth back with each backstab
each backstab was a guaranteed crit
never played vermintide
Shade was a better death cult assassin
Shade was a menace against bosses too
If you had a shade, grail knight, bounty hunter and ranger veteran the bosses were a minor threat
If you had bounty hunter bosses were a minor threat
A bounty who could aim and had a purple pot could end everything
Anyone know about any Easter eggs?
There are references to broader 40k lore, to minis (Cosmetics, enemies, set pieces...)
But not sure ig they count as Easter egg
Do we count the free cosmetic vendor as an Easter Egg?
Granted, a late one. She was patched into the job in a random update
you could say day 1 launch that the free cosmetic vendor was a tyranid and i wouldn’t know better, was the zealot and servitor from launch or was it actually patched it later?
i think it was there from launch but it was not a catalogue
The store was there from launch, but it was a random cyborg that was the shopkeeper. It was only in a patch bout half a year in that the shopkeeper became the traitor
Or was it “the traitor became the shopkeeper”… english hard
At the time it was the most exciting “story” reveal in Darktide 
no, the store was added in one of the updates
the commissary and the armory used to be one shop, selling both weapons and skins
then the armory moved to be next to hadron, the old location was closed, and a few weeks later the commissary was added
which was staffed by a random servitor, like the armory, yes
until another patch changed the vendor to the traitor
AKA Mara Vinci
oh yeah, you’re right
Man, how long has it been since everything moved around the Mourningstar?
She shows up on every mourningstar cutscene
It's like when humpty was revealed to be the antagonist in the first Puss and boots movie
does anyone wanna help me with the just a flesh wound penance?
Catachan Mk VI Combat Blade or Catachan Mk III Combat Blade? Do they have different uses?
Yes
Mk 3 has more assassin oriented heavies and an okay light spam for hordes
While the Mk6 has two horizontal heavies meant for hordes and it's third heavy is an assassin stab. It's light spam is also way better for hordes.
^^
Is there plus 3 stam curios for zealots?
Yes, there's +3 for all the archetypes
anyone know what potrait this is?
Mortis operative I believe
warhammer+ frame
games workshop paid subscription frame
Ah okay
thanks
Is it normal for console players to hot mic the entire time they play?
It's a rare occurence whenever I play with console players, so, no?
You can mute them if you want
Yes, I know that. It's more of a curiosity about what I consider common courtesy. You wouldn't chew with your mouth open at dinner, but I have to hear you slurp down whatever your sticking in your face, or hear your kids screaming in the background because you couldn't be bothered to be a responsible person and mute yourself.
Why do so many players insist on defending so low on consignment yard? It always results in
1: No cover
2: a large number of shooters/gunners partially obscured by terrain from high ground surrounding the team
3: a generally long engagement range from all directions hurting weapons that have rapid damage dropoff or benefit from penetration or AOE to hit multiple enemies.
That ledge people defend on isn't even safe from poxbursters or monsters knocking people over it
I just have a question that I can’t answer why is it when I play zealot it just works even on damnation I don’t even have a well defined build I just have knife
what build
I have never in my life seen people hold there
Really, that's 90% of the matches I played
One of the vets got punched by a Plague Ogryn and landed on the Valkyrie, the boss disappeared right after
No idea what happened that day
Whenever I play consignment yard people just hold the by the train
Maybe I'll start dropping medkit and crate somewhere else
I mute unless in a party.
i got a exhaled mk XIX shovel dose it worth to consecrate it ?
give me a sec
would be nice i tryed looking for way i would get permission but i can't
ty for help anyway
sry for wasting time
You just need to be here and active, you will get the role which lets you post images automatically after a while
rgr thanks
I just have to write the wepons stats kinda annoying i won't die from it
Mobility from knife is very safe
There is something so satisfying about the game being almost perfect in hit boxes when a mutant horde is zig zagging through the group and you just ultra instinct dodge and baseball bat their heads off one after another with a power sword
I’m gonna say something controversial
||I think the door opening bug is a good addition to the game||
i say
remove all airlocks
they give us a map
i want the whole map
no variants either
both variants of the maps
let us guess what mission it actually is
hey all, quick question, how do i upgrade/increase a weapons modifiers? not talking about perks or blessings
the perks and blessing will raise the overall item lvl but the modifiers %’s you can’t
it’s rng
ah, ok, so i just have to hope and pray that i get a weapon i like with good modifiers and then upgrade that one? oh well, fair enough i guess, thanks for the help
yeah you can check when the normal shop rotates, gamble your dockets rolling whites or maybe grab one as a mission reward, it sucks but it’s one of the major things the next update will rework and no problem
ah, good to know, then i won't worry too much about gear atm and focus on my Penances for now, thanks again 👍
The next next major update
The next update is penance system
not sure if tahts the right channel but
how can i make the game stop running like garbage i tried around in the settings tried yt recomendations but dosent help
my main problem seems too be it feels laggy stuttering
whats your spec
32 gb of ramm
amd Readon RX 6750 XT gpu
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X-8Core
(my screen can support 165 herz tho i normaly run stuff at 120 fps )
ya somthing i learnd
many games tend too have issues wiht amd the gpus are good like realy good but games stil lthend too focus more on nvida gpus as there still mainstream espcaly wiht the big streamers
Oh shit I just remembered we had a community event that one time
Maybe it’s another one of those
this could be big.
guys do you recomend any axe with the zealot?
Chain Axe
none of the normal axes are good enough?
Some of the Combat Axe are good but I haven't used them in a long time
mmmm okay thx
Axes are for nerds and firemen 
Still no Axe for Zharin 
Mark V Antax and Mark II Rashad are very very strong
ty
Rashad with Brutal momentum+Head taker
Go chastise the wicked and martyrdom
Flak+unarmoured
You'll actually be the most unkillable.
I use it on vet and if I can be a monster as melee vet you bet you'll be a monster with zealot.
thats the thing idk????
i dont know if this is the right channel, but what is melee finese bonus?
finesse = weakspot and crit dmg
+20% finesse = +20% weakspot dmg, +20% crit dmg, and +20% crit weakspot dmg
they dont stack? wouldnt be +40%
gotcha
but if you have +weakspot and crit dmg separately, it does stack
e.g., duellist gives +50% weakspot and +50% crit dmg
consequently, you get +100% crit weakspot damage from it
so there's a difference between having +50% finesse damage and +50% crit & +50% weakspot dmg
Did they buff monstrosities or nerf certain weapons since anniversary? Just came back to the game and feels like some of my anti boss builds hit weaker than they used to, especially the rumbler
they nerfed explosion and DOT vs bosses
ah dang, there goes some of my fav builds. thanks for the headsup
They nerf bleed sure. But Ulgo apply more of it!
You can still get them to do more dmg if you have rending / apply brittleness
when does shop rotate?
and does anyone know of any compilations featuring all the premium stuff for comparison?
This Thursday (if they successfully squeeze in at least a hotfix patch before then)
My mega list of everything I've been able to find and dig up
things w/o finished names or models are (mostly) not included
I wanted to post this to Reddit, but I can't add flairs on Reddit mobile app.
Looking at the Darktide cosmetics menu is a mess.
Reskined duplicate items should simply be an expanding menu from the parent item. Don't make me shuffle through 5 items to compare two reskins. Add an extra "soft click" which doesn't select the item, but opens the item patterns and colours. Then you can shuffle through 5 of the same item to pick the one you want. Has the additional advantage of instead of 6 rows of 3 columns. You'll have maybe 3 rows. And so be able to view all at the same time.
As an aside. The curio menu needs an overhaul too. One long row is a pain to organise. This one you should make a rows and 3 colomn menu.
Imagine using all your screen space and not making an entirely vertical list on a computer game
Lol, lmao even
i think in the next update they should reveal the adress of people who speedrun the match so i can go to their house and kick their jaw

fatshark can you implament this feature please
How would you catch then though ?
You bring up a valid point
I will have the element of surprise, so I will not give them the chance to speedrun away from me
Like a croc at the bank of a watering hole waiting for an unsuspecting gazelle

Smart, must be an Ogryn
me, omw to knife dash+shroudfield away from you anyway
my immense bulk striding towards you at a brisk pace
my zealot drinks like 5 energy drinks a day... I doubt that he'll ever stop running
The heart attack will stop him
If my weapon has brittelness does the push apply it?
I'm 85% sure yes
Because psyker force sword push will give you uncanny/executor stacks
As the force sword pushes are always weak spot hits
is this true for all 3 patterns?
to be precise, they're talking about the push-attack and yeah it's the same for all 3
do we know if we keep or old completet peance after the update was lot of work
Yes
nice^^
am i the only one after latest update got 50% performance down?
Does rumbler explosion kills count as ranged kill?
For melk contract?
I think it counts
But at the same time, I wouldn’t recommend it for ranged contract
Yes
Here is Ulgo tip to play
Kill heretic

If need real tip. Not ask Ulgo. Not expert on things. Only protecting lil uns
Did you test it?
Explosions like the Bolter AoE, Rumbler, and the Blitz all count
any know if this is good not sure about mk
Hey all. Is it just me, or the fact that you can't switch to your melee weapon by pressing Q when you're in ADS insanely fucking annoying
just you i think
it's just, Q then block is my panic option
why doesn't Q work when you're in aiming mode
Thank you for the insight, Ulgo. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Nah, it's a game thing
It pisses me off every single time it happens
You wanted to say "THANKING YOU!" ?
Yes. But I really adore how ogryn articulates the phrase, I quoted.
What are-tick-ule-ate mean?
"Say".
Say what?
Does anyone know if Brain Burst works for the Serial Killer achievement? Does it count as a headshot
Yeah I’ve been struggling trying to do it with a gun thanks I’m going to create a Psyker and do that now
Only got 14/20
Hi everyone, are there people motivated to do the Orthus secret ? FOR DAH EMPRAH
Is there a cross save/progression on steam now? Or have the vermintide cosmetics come to microsoft store/xbox yet?
idk my friend
no
Thanks.
hey y'all i was trying to get some advice on some items i found, how can i post a screenshot if at all?
does the new thing have to wear off before i can do that?
Found a Zarona revolver with Damage-80, Mobility-79, Penetration-61, Reload Speed 80, Critical Bonus 80. That any good?
guess i gotta do it this way 😛
base weapon stats dont really matter
even if a weapon has mid stats, its still good
Yes
awesome
disappointingly low on penetration, might hold you back from oneshot breakpoints
otherwise usable
yeah i wish penetration and reload speed could switch places
hope they add the ability to reroll those things at some point
weapon spec enjoyer?
yes, it's coming in patch 25 in 2030
trust 🤞🏻
of course 😛
anyone tried launching darktide on steam deck to check shops? is this even possible
Bit redundant when the browser plugin exists.
is it known that you can like vermintide 2 janky wall clip "ledge" the shielded boss?
yeah but you cant really buy anything through it
no and i found it the hard way, and now i have it xbox (pc) not steam
Shader cache builder process errors 0x1 anyone know how to fix
Try “verify integrity of game files”… check for graphics card driver updates
Siblings! Just wanted to know if you use assails near a demonhost (lets say you are trying to kill a gunner next or near to a DH) would that assail shard attack the demonhost? Didn't use assail when this happened in one of my games just making sure 🙂
Not directly, but it cam hit it when trying to hit something behind/next to it
If you aim with the assail in theory it shouldn't hit the dh
Okay siblings thank you!
can someone help me and my 2 friends with the double bosses?
If you kill special/elite near it soulblaze can trigger DH 
Hard mode or normal? Also what region
its level 3
na
im a lvl 12 so is one other and we have a lvl 27 and we keep loosing
idk how to do it
Uh
be lvl 30?
we keep getting close
can wait
6594991479 my FS friend code
higher difficulty missions with modifiers
whats the difference between the mk6 and mk3 power swords?
Mk6 can block cancel activation (which still cancels sprint) and primarily uses energized light atks. Its energized push atk also does very high dmg to carapace & unyielding enemies, and it has inherent 25% block efficiency from front
Mk3 activation doesn’t cancel sprint and primarily uses energized heavy atks.
Mk6 is generally the better one rn
ohhh
thank you
is the stability stat on guns important? i got a columnus with 80 on all the modifiers except stability which is at 46%
Stability changes recoil & hipfire (braced) spread on weapons which can impact how they feel
ahh i see ok
guess i just gotta get gud
are there blessings/perks for guns, melee that are generally the best? or does it vary by build?
It typically varies on a weapon to weapon basis but there are some that are almost always good, like Uncanny Strike or Brutal Momentum
will keep an eye out for those then, thank you
What class are you progressing btw?
tried one difficulty 5 mission and got absolutely carried by a zealot so i need to fix my stuff
Check the first pin in vet chat, your actual best resource
oh ok will do
An extremely comprehensive guide
do we have such a thing
is my best bet at getting power cycler 4 just to keep buying and consecrating until i get one with it
yes
U can dm me if u have questions, that guide is a bit outdated now
When using kickback or rumbler sometimes gun not fire but it make sound. How? And how can fix?
put more ammo in
True and real
What do the different MKs of weapons with the same name mean? Are higher MKs just flatly better?
They have different movesets and damage profiles
Ah. How delightfully confusing.
some of them are better to make things worse
but they are mostly changed yet similar movesets
So, with the mission changes, such as special condition missions changing from 500 to 250, if I already have 250 when I log in, will I receive the frame and the penance be completed? Or changing total missions from 1500 to 500 if I'm already over 500, etc.
Probably the former
anyone else having this issue the hud kinda shaking while moving camera
play all 4 character
Is it a specific button to skip the hestia cutscene? Or is it just not skip-able?
Anyone made any progress on “get off me” penance yet. I’ve defiantly been doing it and I have 0/50
Do the T5 dif/location ones you’ll get every penance for the location. I’ve just been going place to place when it rotates then dropping difficulty to grind others like missions played
which one is it again?
Push dogs midair
then it's progressing fine for me
Anyone else's inventory crash the game even after verifying integrity of files?
Any fix for the audio stuttering??
If you had mods you might have residual files
is this bugged or some troglodyte coded it to not count if you joined after the mission started
Bugged
as in completely doesnt work or just the counter
Doesn’t track
Just skip that for now

Hiii xbox player here. I want to see the other things in this slider but I don't know how. Anyone got an idea or am I unable to?
Are you able to use to d pad to go left to right for it?
I don't think so but I'll double check real fast!!
Maybe you have to move downwards all the way and then move to the right

Can’t believe it took me so long to remember the d pad
I was a friggen Xbox kid damn it
YIPPE IT WORKS :D
I don't have a pc unfortunately so I'm stuck an xbox person 
But I gotta press the left joystick and it WORKSSS why didn't I think of that
Im pretty sure that what is called ghosting on monitors. It means that images are appearing quicker then the monitor has time to remove them.
Id recommend to test doing things such as updating graphics drivers, changing fps on darktide to the monitors refresh rate specifications and last enableing vysnc/gysnc.
https://www.testufo.com/ghosting#background=004040&separation=1920&pps=1080&graphics=bbufo.png&pursuit=1 you can test here for ghosting
hi guys i have a problem with the game maybe is for the update because this problem not apperd before
the audio is lag
Has anbybody here sorted the martyr skull achievements for the hourglass?
to complete the ‘battlepass’ with 4500 penance points to get the moebian armor, does that mean we have to complete every single penance or do the penances add up more than 4500?
has anybody else been getting a ton of audio stutters during missions?
ME
hELP
PLS
in mission i play that thing not have sound
i had audio stutters a year ago, but i had sound booster on my computer installed at the time, deleted - the audio has been fixed
anyone else having hard CTDs and being unable to reconnect to themission because it immediately crashes again?
I lost 2 missions in a row from that
right in the last third of the matches
Fix this audio stuttering fatshark I can't play
Do people still do groups for penances? I want to complete "Just a flesh wound" for zealot
Ah i see ty
is lights out still auric exclusive?
Never was as far as I know
It used to be a Maelstrom modifier on normals, but you'll find more of them at Auric missions
Anybody else autowalking? I turned my sensitivity all the way to 1.00 and I'm still autowalking, so it definitely isn't a creep
i am not going to log in to the FS forums to make a post, but this is literally game breaking grammar here
Anyone know which video setting makes the mission board hologram have a video static effect? Trying to get rid of it
how else should i modify this knife (veteran with weapon swapping build and infiltrate)
Replace Lacerate with, ideally, Uncanny Strike.
Re: perks you could consider Maniac and/or Unyielding in place of one of them (I'd personally leave Flak on)
i use lacerate to help with horde clearing or is the knife enough on its own for that?
If you want to help yourself with horde clearing, then consider Flesh Tearer, but Lacerate goes against the identity of the knife. You don't really want to be hitting bodies with it - it has good weakspot/crit-modified damage, whereas its body hits are relatively small re: damage numbers
And if you want to help yourself to a better horde clear... get frag shredder grenades (and grenade regeneration of some sort)
Anybody know how to reach the hidden powercell on Carnival?
Swedish grammar
If anybody wants to see how to get the hidden skull of hl-17-36 lemme know, I'll spoil it just in case those who want to find it on their own can
I would love to get help with the power matrix abd smelter complex skulls respectively
just gonna put this here because this heretical idol is behind a invisible wall that stops any and all projectiles and explosives
Maybe you don't believe in the emprah enough
anyone know candle puzzle?
its on the mission where satalite is ontop of building cant remember name
Looking for some help with graphic settings. got a amd 7900 xt, i7 13th gen and play at 1440p. just set it to high setting. but getting fps drops throughout the mission and stays at 60 with hoards. then also just had a driver crash while playing as well.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3194249338
Go to Comms-plex section
thank you
who wants to help me run Just a Flesh Wound 
after 800 hrs i still dont have it cause i dont want to bother other people
same with the psyker's penance
Anyone got the hot tips on these new puzzles? Me and a homie are trying to get them done and cant figure out what maps we need to run to collect them all
@frank raven
there's a puzzle each map
I was able to get that one with the trauma staff aoe
but yeah that one sucks
trauma staff is actually really good at getting them even when you didn't know they were there since the aoe is massive
Game is running like a fish on land, 7900xtx merc 310, 12700k, 32gb ddr5000
I’ve checked everything and haven’t found a solution
Everything is default
other reason is the shader cache need sometime to process
or there's a problem in shader cache
Does the game have issues with Windows 11?
i dont know
little greeny skull cant be shot
Emperor, are some of them really that far away
I'm getting punished for running the game on low settings 
uh currently the solution is you need to blast it with trauma staff
If someone breake heretical idol it counts for all In team or only for person that got it
team
ty
Make sure that you are running the dedicated gpu rather than the integrated one.
Did you already do that?
Anyone else having a bug when talking to vendors where your character just stays there with the game playing in the background but the vendor itself does not open? And need to close the game after....
like this
It's not frozen. I just can't do anything. Players are walking around fine. Vendor didn't open but keeps talking to me and I can't ESC out of it.
Problem solved
biggus bugus
anyone else having the cutting out audio, the game freezing and then crashing and immediately crashing again when attempting to reconnect??
console log from reconnect has this weird error: <<Script Error>>scripts/foundation/managers/package/package_manager.lua:132: Package reference 'content/fx/particles/liquid_area/beast_of_nurgle_slime' does not exist in resource manager.<</Script Error>>
That sounds like you need to reverify the game
I know but keeps happening
Do you have any mods?
What are some tips to get Auric storm survivor as a first time maelstrom? I heard the pox gas modifier is easy and to play it safe I’m shieldgryn with health and toughness
BRO 💀 WHY DID ALL MY NEW PENANCES JUST UNLOCK AS SOON AS I STARTED DARKTIDE UP AGAIN
Are the Idols in the same places everytime I assume?
no
Anyone know a fix for this? Verified five times and nothing works.
hey guys, does anyone know if alt-f4ing saves the deathless penance's progress ? I had good luck with teams so far so I don't want to lose the progress now
You'll have to contact support.
Making a post on the forums.
anybody else getting connection issues on damnation threat? my frames are fine. its just i get rubber-banded and audio bugs constantly
Is the barber bugged? Keeps telling me "unable to perform operation" after 3 attempts of doing all my selections
So much for personality scourge update 🤷
should you complete the prismata crystall mission before that?
idk myself but...
I have 5mil ordo 🙂
uh
It's buggy - I saw another post on FS forum
I could use barber on my vet, but not on my zealot
it worked fine for me
me too - on vet 🙂
i changed name on my ogryn
zealot - I tried 4 times, with diff options - no go
is it still possible to fuck off from doomed missions without "consecutive" counters being reset
Thank you 🙏. I played a few and they aren’t as challenging as I thought, if I play patiently.
stick to the team and dont take lots of risks = ez win
Learned that “moving as a unit” should be taken seriously. I mostly prioritize snowballers and it gave me confidence that I could obtain the title.
I just finished an auric mael without dying and it didn't count 😭
Does it only count once per instance?
was at 1/5 and did scab melee only no ammo twice
Did you join partway through maybe?
Yeah
Well there you go
No
I believe there are multiple reasons for the way it is, but most likely it's because they don't want people to abuse simply leaving the mission if they are about to die
And also people who join a mission right at the end just getting the penance for free
That doesn't at all prevent that
Might as well make it a private game only penance if it doesn't count for missions you join partway through
Well I meant it more for those who leave and rejoin the mission, not people who just leave and don't come back
Well private game penances are private because they actually require you to play suboptimal sometimes
This is just "don't die"
There is no reason to make a penance private just cause you have to complete a full mission to do it. You're the slow person fucktard
That's a yes to both, then?
"I think this penance should be private, because of x." "It's not, because of y" "is there a problem with your reading?!?!?11?". Lol, lmao even
Hope this clears up your confusion
I'm not confused, I just disagree with your statement. There are numerous reasons not to make it a private game penance. You chose to ignore the one reason I gave and you can't seem to think for yourself so I guess I have to elaborate more. Private games are only available to parties of 2 or more, and this effectively makes solo only players unable to complete private penances. In addition, private penances were all at one point public. The whole reason they were made private is because they forced players to play suboptimal and be a nuisance to their team. This does not apply to auric storm survivor
In short, "it might as well be a private penance" is a poor suggestion. Instead they should give an option so that players can choose if matchmaking can put you in a game that's in progress
Did you miss the solo players part? Or do you just not consider them people
Is your reading comprehension slow?
It's an idiom used to indicate something is so similar to the mentioned alternative that it is essentially the same
See how condescending that sounds?
Except they are not the same
I just gave you reasons why
You interpret it as condescension because of some deep seated insecurities
I am not a therapist
Thanks for the info though merging into a squad worked, and i got the penance
I interpret it that way because that's how it came off 
Thanks for your suggestion to make it private, they won't
You are genuinely daft holy hell
It was not a suggestion it was an idiom a rhetoric device
Well try to use it properly next time then
Guess i should better know my audience, good point
I'll mark you as my end, to make sure i stick to middle school level simple english when talking to you
Good to know you'll be sticking to your school's curriculum then
Ooh, what a dreadful whiff, completely forgetting that you just showcased that your english skills are poorer than mine
If i'm in middle school then where does that put you?
Guess i shouldn't have expected you to be able to shit talk well
Ah, there is another
what is this weird interaction
Showcased how? Because all I see is you ignoring the reasons I have for it not being private
We're having a little fun
Yes indeed, having a laugh really
I'm occupying myself during the slow moments of the current auric maelstrom match by sharpening my wits against his, though his are admittedly dull
Still just ignoring them, hoping I'll go away I guess
As i just explained to you, i don't care about your reasons or arguments because you are arguing with thin air
Okay good to know that the penance might not as well be private then
It might as well be, since it wouldn't make a difference
But it ought not be
Because all of the private match restrictions are dull and boorish
It would make a difference, for the reasons I explained less people would complete the penance
And I also gave the only real solution which you promptly ignored, but that's beside the point
I probably did
And since we started talking i formed a strike team with my pub fellows, and we've done about 5 mael runs without anyone dying
Which worked well
Obviously yes
Uh huh, and are you the only one playing the game? Plenty of players have no intention of ever joining a strike team
If you restrict something, on the mean, less people will complete it
Yes no shit
Do i have to explain what an idiom or a rhetoric expression is to you for a 3rd time
Almost like I said that at the start
Well you must be autistic then
Take this in good faith genuinely you have at least a little bit of good will saved up from telling me about the whole joining halfway thing
ESL or autism?
ESL is English Second Language
If not you might genuinely want to get checked
I'll go by your own linked definition so I'll know you can read it at your middle school level. So there is a better alternative to making it private, which is matchmaking improvements. And making it a private penance will also mean less players will complete the penance, a significant difference in my eyes. Two reasons why it might not be "as well"
Waht the hell is going on here 

