gameplay-help

[earnest quarry]

What determines what level perks a weapon has?

[craggy solar]

base rating has an influence afaik + rng

[earnest quarry]

Thanks

[edgy kindle]

so has anyone else been having connection issues increase since the new update?

[earnest quarry]

I haven't

[visual obsidian]

Hi there, is this where I can ask for help with a gameplay issue i've been having with my ogryn? I can't unequip my weapon and have tried to sell it, break it down, upgrade it, etc etc. It's permanently affixed to my dude.

[umbral plaza]

do you have another weapon in your inventory for that slot?

[visual obsidian]

yeah

[umbral plaza]

can you switch to it?

[visual obsidian]

I've tried everything within my power to do

[umbral plaza]

close game and restart?

[visual obsidian]

it swaps the weapons just fine, but when I actually go into the match, that stuck weapon is what is attached

this has persisted through multiple restarts

[umbral plaza]

are you changing it on your loadout?

[visual obsidian]

both of the game and my pc

[umbral plaza]

are you selecting the wrong loadout

?

[visual obsidian]

Nope

I've even tried making it so every one of my loadouts does not include that weapon, and it still loads in in every mission

[umbral plaza]

in the pre match screen you switch these right?

[visual obsidian]

pre match, on the ship, w/e

[umbral plaza]

verified game files?

any mods installed?

[visual obsidian]

yea

na

about to try a reinstall, if that doesn't work I pretty much need someone to force fix it or else i'm gonna have to restart a lv 25 character

[umbral plaza]

id submit a ticket first

[visual obsidian]

Okay, how do you do that

i've been looking all over for it

[hasty pulsar]

question about the new level, are there ANY pickups before the first event? I don't recall any on my first few runs through, and ever since then, every squad i get on 5s just sprints to the first event, so my assumption is no?

[hard goblet]

https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us/requests/new Has to be through here. You could also make a post on their Darktide forums in the bugs section.

[still helm]

How exactly does extra power from blessings work? Such as overwhelming fire getting more every 4 single target hits

[visual obsidian]

Awesome, thank you

[hard goblet]

Power affects many different types of damage you'd deal including your base damage, critical damage, weakspot damage, and I think cleave/stagger(?).

It's a strong effect because it increases your strength across the board.

[lucid abyss]

Can someone pelase explain 'cleave targets' stat for me? I have a sword that has 78% cleave which translates to 1.78 targets on light attack. However, when I test the sword it does damage to 4 targets and staggers anything after that.

[hard goblet]

That's cleave targets relative to a target's hitmass.

Every target has some amount of hitmass.

Crushers for example have much higher hitmass than a groaner or poxwalker.

Cleave targets determines how much hitmass you can cleave through and thus apply damage to before you no longer apply damage.

[lucid abyss]

Makes sense, totally forgot about hit mass. Thank you!

[still helm]

For a heavy melee attack to count as fully charged do I have to wait until it stops holding on its own, or just when the arm stops pulling back further

[hard goblet]

It's fully charged when despite holding down M1, the attack animation begins.

[still helm]

Alright

[jagged sapphire]

What would be a decent base for a combat dagger?

[cedar dune]

Is it possible to go a match with only bots? i cant do solo and wanna see the new map, but everytime i join ppl speedrun and i have no idea what is what xD

I looked at private game option but it says it needs at least 1 more player with me

[fervent ridge]

I can join a private game with you and just sit there eating my food while you go explore

In about 20 minutes when I get on the game if you want

Not gonna have my hands on the keyboard so i'll just die, ur on your own

[dim vessel]

I haven't played in a few months. Came back to check out the tree and updates. I feel like a newb again.

Is consecrating items not worth it? I coulda sworn it gave better "upgrades" to the gun and higher rating before? I just bought a gray and tried consecrating. Stayed at 200 rating.

Also: I coulda sworn there was a way to get rid of old weapons you don't want anymore. All I can find is "earn blessing" but... I thought there was a way to get mats? I don't see it anymore

[fervent ridge]

Are you level 30 yet

[dim vessel]

Yeah

On 4 chars

[fervent ridge]

It is not possible to get 200 base rating at lvl 30, items come at minimum 300 base rating

This has been changed for months

[dim vessel]

I just bought this one at 178 rating at the vendor

And consecrated it up to orange

[fervent ridge]

You can hit X on weapons to barter them from the Inventory if you don't need the blessing they have anymore

That was an awful waste of your crafting resources

[dim vessel]

Lmfao I have a LOT of it tho from before

I wanted to see what's changed lol

[fervent ridge]

Never buy weapons below 360 base rating / tier 3 & 4 blessings / both

[dim vessel]

Roger that

Guess I'll have to wait for some rolls

[fervent ridge]

You might as well sell this because at 108 base rating it will lose to the first weapon you buy from Brunts armoury right now due to sheer statchecking

Also two tier 1 blessings are trash, so it has nothing good about it

[dim vessel]

Sold

Yeah I was under the impression I could upgrade it much more than this lol

I just wanted to try the kickback everyone seems to say is good with ogryns

[fervent ridge]

In this new crafting system, your roadmap is to go to the hourly shop under BRUNTS and pay ordos to buy a weapon of your choice, it will come at MINIMUM 300 base

[dim vessel]

Gotcha

Is there a max rating?

[fervent ridge]

You are looking to roll until you find one at 360+ base THEN you upgrade that high base rated one

Max is 550 if 2 tier 4 perks and 2 tier 4 blessings

Max base is 380

[dim vessel]

Gotcha, alright, good to know

I feel like a complete newb again lol

[fervent ridge]

Much has changed

[dim vessel]

How about the Curios?

[fervent ridge]

New skills to toy with, new maps, new free premium cosmetics at the end of the month with Vanguard bundle

Ogryn still wants 3x HP curios

health is as good as ever

Since oggy toughness regen has only gotten stronger over the last 5 patches and u get your full toughness back after two auto attacks

[dim vessel]

Damn

Sounds nice

It definitely feels less like I'm "hitting in a dream" now, with these updates

Everything felt super slow before

[fervent ridge]

The ogryn class channel has some very smart guy and a good resource in the ogrynomicon you can check out for more details on what builds u can try with all these 30 points you can spend

[dim vessel]

I will do so, thank you

Regarding that kickback- I sold it, but I should wait till I get a new one from the random rolls, right?

No upgrades till I get a good base

[fervent ridge]

The only thing an ogryn has to suffer now is too many options

[dim vessel]

LOL

I like that

[fervent ridge]

Yes

[dim vessel]

Alrighty 🙂

Thank you for the help, Jum

[cursive mica]

hi guys, i know Lawbringer is a joke among the shotgun family, is it still worth it to be acquired for the blessings for extraction?

[dire patrol]

Is the ordo docket modifier on curios additive or multiplicative

[rigid wasp]

Fire frenzy is pretty neat to magdump hordes

Deathspitter is nice too, considering it's power

[cursive mica]

alrighty

[stoic iron]

there's a solo mod if you're on pc

[dim vessel]

How do I access the new content? Is it just mixed in with all the normal stuff? With quickplay and things like this? Or is it another wing or something I'm missing cuz I'm blind and dumb?

[stoic iron]

new map is called Mercantile HL-70-04 so look for that on the mission board

quickplay isn't guaranteed to put you into the new map

this is what it looks like

[dim vessel]

Roger that. Thank you 🙂 Is that the only new one?

[stoic iron]

yeah

[dim vessel]

Cool 😄 Thank you

[fervent ridge]

2 more dropping at the end of the month

[little coyote]

wasn't it december?

[waxen kindle]

anyone can help me with one penances?

Malleus Monstronum

[vocal nacelle]

I can give tips

[craggy minnow]

that penance is so annoying lol

[vocal nacelle]

oh boi that one ,ask an ogryn

[waxen kindle]

this needs friends to get

[vocal nacelle]

You need ogryn with shield

[craggy minnow]

the bare minimum is you have 4 people so the bots dont do 11% of its hp anyone can tank it

i wonder if the weakened monstros from maelstrom count

if they do you can do one of those with 4 psykers and all get it easy

[mental sequoia]

This knife worth grabbing for Knife Zealot?

[mighty inlet]

30% finesse 💀

[waxen kindle]

i know the ways but i don't have any friends to get it 😦

[vocal nacelle]

#vox-lfg-nasa #vox-lfg-emea #vox-lfg-apac

[waxen kindle]

[fast laurel]

Nah. Finesse is too low

[mental sequoia]

Roger

[young rampart]

What Finesse do?

[fast laurel]

Theres 2 different Finesse

Finesse STATS on weapons grant attack speed and crit and weak spot damage bonuses

Finesse MODIFIERS like in blessings and nodes is what gives bonuses to your weak spot, crit and crit weak spot damage.

They both have the same name for some reason

[coral violet]

which devil claw moveset is better against hordes?

[fervent ridge]

mk 4 is the best claw overall

[formal granite]

theres a crusher weapon and a crusher dude

[warm nebula]

The word bible is just a little short okay? Cut them some slack, it’s not like they’re Bungie making Destiny: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2014/09/15/circa-1991

[hasty pulsar]

trash

riposte + lacerate

knife has 15% base crit

down the throwing knife section, you get increased crit chance on bleeding enemies, and it's easier to hit non-weakpoint over weakpoint because there's more of it

blazing piety can give you an additional 25% crit

All that crit has a purpose. In this video, I use Chorus three times in 60 seconds. It has a 60 second cooldown.

[mental sequoia]

I'll start rolling one after I get a blessing I'm missing for my Autopistol

[hushed axle]

Ayo anyone feeling like the lights out modifier got like even darker? or am I just having a bad eyesight day o.o

[mental sequoia]

So what should be the blessing combo I should go for?

[remote compass]

check your gamma/brightness settings lol

[hushed axle]

UnethicalLifehacks

😏

[slim citrus]

in the launcher settings, what even are worker threads? idk how many i should set it 2

[restive acorn]

is there a list of curio min-max values for each blessing?

[remote compass]

worker threads is the amount of worker threads your CPU has
if you don't utilize as many of your worker threads as possible, it'll bottleneck the game to literally play worse

so set it as high as possible

back in V2 and peer 2 peer servers, CPU used to directly handle stuff like enemy AI, meaning if you had 1 worker thread it would literally turn the enemies into unresponsive slogs (and you too)
now this burden is on FS's dedicated servers, but high density hordes will still kick your CPU's ass

[versed tendon]

so i have a question are yo uable to play with people who have mods installed when you dont use any? also if i do install mods is there a safe place to look for them?

[remote compass]

the modding server is your go-to for mods, has instructions on how to install dependencies and where to find them
most of the mods are on nexusmods, but there's also a creations-showcase channel where you can find some WIP mods like e.g. Weapons Customization

#📌communities message

[versed tendon]

thank you very much

[slim citrus]

my cpu has "16 threads" im going to assume those are the worker threads and not a separate thing?

[remote compass]

yep, it should do well

mine has 12 threads

[slim citrus]

i cant set darktide settings to anything above 14 though though

that the limit or does it for some reason think i have less

[remote compass]

because you still need some of the threads to run the rest of your computer and operating system

[slim citrus]

makes sense thanks

[remote compass]

in Vermintide 2 it would highlight the numbers in red if you tried to go past the maximum amount possible, unsure if that's in the DT launcher too

[rigid wasp]

My best result was keeping the default setting it set me to, which was 9 for 12 threads

Or, well, at least one of them because testing worker threads with the way the game varies enemies, maps and modifiers is a total pain in the ass

[restive acorn]

can someone help?

[polar forum]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2892198053

for t4 blessings, do you have to consecrte a weapon to transcendant to have a chance of rolling them?

or can you get them already when the weapon is blue?

[tepid skiff]

t4 can roll on a blue, but the chances are really low.

like, single percentile digits.

[restive acorn]

is auric heresy better for rewards than regular damnation?

[polar forum]

oof i see, so you really have to upgrade to yellow for t4s?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/866612868992466947.webp?size=48&name=sadge&quality=lossless

[tepid skiff]

it's much more expensive, so in terms of resource efficiency not sure which is better.

but anyway you're probably better off running higher difficulties and getting drops there.

and monitoring melk shop daily, it has tons of t4 for sale.

ideally via browser addon.

[polar forum]

Yah I just got impatient

Wanted power cycler 4

I’ll just have to live with 3

[slim citrus]

why am i still getting this yellow warning message

[restive acorn]

idk update your graphics drivers i guess

[slim citrus]

i have

[restive acorn]

i know gpu scheduling required me to reboot once on windows, but it doesnt say that on your settings window

[slim citrus]

cause i already have

imma disable, restart, enable and restart again

okay well despite the warning message im hoping i can ignore it cause when i had gpu scheduling disabled the option for frame generation wasnt even there

[hasty pulsar]

I'm actually uncertain now. A fellow crit chaser showed me a different build that was better at killing, but had less support. Rending + flesh tearer. Was smacking crushers in two headshots, and melting bosses. Somehow they manage to still beat my crit rate with riposte+lacerate

Dude is just a legend

Basically, the logic is just that you want to stack bleed and crit.

Rending cuts through armor, so that's for crushers and friends

[hasty pulsar]

Wouldn't recommend. Grey to blue on a 380 is 350 plasteel. Purple to yellow on a 380 is 700. More efficient to upgrade high base level gear to blue if you're JUST looking for a specific blessing, imo.

[polar forum]

aight thanks

[hasty pulsar]

You spend roughly 3x the materials to go from blue to yellow as you do from Grey to blue

[polar forum]

i think i'm just going to be patient and monitor brunts

and melks

[craggy minnow]

Going to yellow may have a higher chance of t4 blessings

People fight about it someone should data mine

[polar forum]

that's what people were saying

and it feels like the case

but that plasteel cost 🤮

[hasty pulsar]

Personally, I only go to yellow if the first blessing is useful, but that's probably preference.

It's all about the cost, in my head

It's 500 to purple and 700 to yellow on a 380

So I just grab as many from brunt as a can, consecrate anything over 360 twice, and sell the rest

If one rolls t4 of a blessing I want can use, I'll hold on to it, consecrate it again later

[torn cargo]

(Zealot Talent Tree) If 2 Zealots have this talent, would they also receive the critical hit chance bonus for them? As it's only for your mates. You wouldnt receive the benefit yourself. But because the other Zealot will have it too, then would you benefit from that critical chance as well?

[slim citrus]

what in the godamm? does this mean everyone in that mission was disconnected or?

ive literally never seen this before

not really looking for a fix just

anyone seen this before?

[pseudo sail]

happens sometimes

[fervent ridge]

Warp Interference

[slim citrus]

300+ hours never seen it before

i just got a new pc so it kinda freaked meout

[weak sleet]

well, it's nothing to do with your PC, it's a problem with the server

[slim citrus]

just weird i have never seen it before as a daily player

iam also on much higher settings now so i was questioning if any of those could cause it, though im getting no performance issues

[polar forum]

i've seen it once or twice

pretty sure it's just fatshart servers shitting the bed

[slim citrus]

insane timing for that 2 happen first run on new pc

massive anxiety dose since this is my 2nd attempt

last pc i got was faulty so im still trying 2 figure out if this one is

[hard goblet]

I've seen that error before too. It's a server issue.

Expect that more frequently as time goes on since Fatshark doesn't restart their servers very often.

[grim jungle]

I'm getting awful performance after the update. Like half second+ hitches everytime something new appears on screen. Game ran flawlessly before. I can't seem to find any threads on the issue so, taking suggestions on how to troubleshoot.

[grim jungle]

Issue was solved by disabling Raytracing at the driver level, using Nvidia Profile Inspector

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1024009817846710434.gif?size=48&name=yesgryn&quality=lossless

[hasty elm]

is the books contract bugged?

[warm nebula]

Almost certainly. At least you can work around it by dropping that one for a different contract.

[loud widget]

Hey guys

[noble heart]

just curious, do the weapon skins in the aqualis shop only apply to the corresponding character?

[loud widget]

Is there anyone who can help me with the "Warp Battery" penance for the Psyker? I've been cursing at it for a month, I can't get it right without help

[loud widget]

I think they're shared between all characters who can use that specific weapon type

[noble heart]

alr cuz some ar only in one and others

dont wanna spend the aqualis only for it to be limited

[unborn niche]

Redid my Veteran revolver guide for patch 15. Weirdly, it's even stronger now. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/wKszHlxGWeM

[fringe crane]

lord in heaven push to talk on darktide is still borked

[tall cypress]

anyone else have books not counting for their weekly objectives progress?

[hard goblet]

It's bugged.

[thorny radish]

Do attack speed bonuses benefit heavy attacks? They don't seem faster

[void forge]

yeah it does. its most noticeable with slower weapons like the thunder hammer

[clever osprey]

Are these good stats for my melee?

[hard goblet]

I weep for that penetration stat. But I'm guessing this is a holdover weapon.

[clever osprey]

What about this one? Thinking of consecrating it, but want to make sure its fine

[hard goblet]

Have you inspected the weapons and hovered over the penetration bar?

[clever osprey]

Yo I'm gonna be so real, I didn't know that was a thing 🤣 . First time I'm starting to actually care about weapon stats other than the bigger number

My bad, I've only played this for a month now

[hard goblet]

Yeah there's more nuance to Darktide than that. If this is your first "tide" game, it's understandable.

It's not immediately apparent unless you test it yourself.

[clever osprey]

Alright, thanks for the help!

[hard goblet]

And feel free to consecrate the 2nd weapon. A base rating of 376 with that stat spread is pretty good.

Very close to a god roll.

[clever osprey]

Really? That's awesome. Thanks again.

[hard goblet]

Though I can't see the perks or blessings on it, so it's still possibly bricked.

But even so, it's usable until you get a better one.

[clever osprey]

2nd

[rigid wasp]

Rev it up to savage sweep and carapace to maniac, I says

[tall grotto]

I reached level 30, how do i get 500+ weapon rating? cause they arent in the shop and consecrating only gets me like 450

[fervent ridge]

buy a base with 360+ base from Brunts

then upgrade it

if you get a good perk continue, if bad discard
assuming the previous step was good, upgrade , if blessing is good continue, if bad discard
assuming the previous step was good, upgrade, if perk is good continue if bad discard
assuming the previous step was good, if blessing is good keep, if bad discard

After you successfully jump through 4 layers of RNG on top of getting a good base and that good base having the modifiers in the proper spots and you passed all 6 layers of gambling

you now have a 500+ weapon

[tall grotto]

is that the only way? that sounds expensive

[fervent ridge]

Alternatively you get lucky at the daily melks' shop

or with gifts from playing auric

Those are the two other options

and yes it is expensive

[clever osprey]

Thanks

[umbral plaza]

Which one?

.
and this worth investing in?
.

[candid gyro]

good base stats but you're kinda 0/4 on blessings and perks, so you'd have to nail at least one good perk/blessing and it'd be good

[normal panther]

Thoughts? Haven't touched Perks or Blessings. Anything I should look for? (new to the game btw)

[mental sequoia]

Definitely not bad but with the recent work to recons I'd make infernus blessing at least a must.

[slim citrus]

not really an issue just wondering if this happens 2 any one else, any time i type and send a message ingame i get the tiniest stutter

but its literally every singel time

[warm nebula]

Honestly I’m too old to notice stutter while I’m trying to type out a message. I’ll have to take your word for it. (Do you have other stuff bound to your “begin chat” key, maybe?)
Granted, there’s something odd about the text chat while loading or unloading a mission, but that’s something else entirely.

[slim citrus]

its only when i send the message i see the stutter small enough 2 ignore just wondering if it was a known issue i could quickly fix maybe

[warm nebula]

Well, you are the first I have heard who mentioned it. But maybe others will see our conversation and pipe up 🤞🏻

If you’re playing on Steam, maybe try disabling the Steam Overlay?

Apparently Fatshark’s engine doesn’t play well with it

[slim citrus]

good shout actually i am on a brand new pc so i have forgotten stuff like that

[slim citrus]

thats real funny considering i cant buy premium cosmetics without it lmao

[warm nebula]

Loooooool

[slim citrus]

oh its disabled already

hmm

[candid reef]

is there a good overall beginner's guide?

[warm nebula]

I mean, there’s an intro in the beginning of the Ogrynomicon about tips and tricks to play as our biggest bois

But overall? Maybe YouTube has what you’re looking for

Hang on a hot second and I’ll drop a link or three

https://youtu.be/xz_kPO9mWhA?si=sS8jJEbv47W1duSK

https://youtu.be/Dgv9M1ow0B8?si=bOQvcpouKdcqagvD (EDIT: contains incorrect info… sorry)

https://youtu.be/BwuL58xeyv0?si=SISPzVD0fXCv_j2o

https://youtu.be/1IBfWZfShkk?si=UrK80F68VsL55vpW

https://youtu.be/nSglTyG_lXw?si=GZMN5xM608AjEX3p

(I might have a problem…)

[fast laurel]

JFJ has a lot of incorrect information in the video

[warm nebula]

Oops. I genuinely didn’t know…

[fast laurel]

Dunno about cashcrop and jtc but I can vouch for milkandcookies

[warm nebula]

Well, accuracy by volume of fire works for me 😅

[mental sequoia]

Either of these Laspistols worthwhile for Zealot from Melk?

[dusk olive]

Does Voice of Command "Only in Death.." trigger "Leave No One Behind" damage reduction?

[remote compass]

"This is DARKTIDE - A Comprehensive Beginner's Guide to Warhammer 40k Darktide"
Why say Darktide in the title twice

[candid reef]

thanks a lot

[candid reef]

thank you as well, this is 1 year old tho, is the info still relevant/correct?

[warm nebula]

The Blessed Algorithm 🙏

[warm nebula]

Rewatching now, but war... war never changes the fundamentals haven't changed too much. I'll comment if I find something out-of-date

[candid reef]

Just watched as well, it's a bit more basic than expected but has some decent tips

[warm nebula]

So, the class roles have expanded a bit in Patch 13 that added the skill trees. There's still a main flavor of ranged versus melee, but the characters are a little more flexible now

The Ogryn middle Combat Ability can pull aggro now, it does what we always wanted the shield to do

Ah whoops. The Global Conditions system has been replaced by the Auric Missions board. That's where you go for extra difficulty challenge

[candid reef]

thanks, that's good to know

[warm nebula]

(still watchin one sec)

[warm nebula]

Whoops, the Veteran's base Toughness was reduced... and spread into the Talent Tree. But the general tactical advice is still solid.

[slim citrus]

any rtx enjoyers here?

noticed this at vendors after having it on, in the bottom left its like the countertop for the vendor is burned into the screen

you can even see the candles

[shell nest]

does terrifying barrage work with purgatus staff?

[summer forum]

Health vs. Toughness curios and do certain classes have a preference?

[rigid wasp]

Toughness is the preference because as long as you keep 100% you'll not take health damage, and you should play to not take damage anyway because if you take it often your health will go down quick

And if you stack health instead, you have less toughness to work with and reduce the damage you do take when you end up making some mistakes like getting hit twice in a row

There's also a build for zealot that makes use of wounds and veteran can use stamina curios to get a longer time to use deadshot

[bleak rover]

Theres no tech help so Ill post it here, my game says it wont use DLSS even though hardware acceleration is enabled in settings.

[summer forum]

I gotta ask to make sure all the grounds are covered but you are using a card that supports it right?

[bleak rover]

Sorry, should have posted my specs, Im on a gaming laptop with a 4080 GPU

It works in other games

The amd worked before

intel i9 13th gen cpu

[summer forum]

That is weird then. I had to change that setting the other week and it worked out for me so the only other recommendations I really have are check for driver updates and slap it with a restart.

[bleak rover]

Aight

[icy jetty]

Questions about the playerbase. I've only been playing since patch 13, but why does it seem like almost every game i'm in since patch 15 people just leasuirly move through the maps on damnation and auric? Like for no reason other then there is trickle of enemies coming in keeo fighting in the same spot. I know i'm not the only one to read the patch notes, but with this last change it just seems no one is out of the mindset and allot the AI director to ramp up instead of pushing forward to reset the aggressiveness of the ai. That being said i'm not talking bout speedrunning the maps, but why are most groups not moving with a purpose and in turn we usually die or get real messed up cause of it.

[slim citrus]

oh hey scroll up a bit i was having the exact same issue, conclusion i came 2 is it must just be a bug that stops the warning message from going away but it still works

cause if u restart ur pc with gpu scheduling disabled the option for frame generation is gone completely

[bleak rover]

Ah

That's good, classic Fatshark

[slim citrus]

yep

[rigid wasp]

I mean, I've been playing for what I think might be 600 hours now and it's the first time I hear of moving to reset aggressiveness

I just dealt with whatever because I wasn't particularly worried

[lyric bramble]

I;ve had this exsperience too. I'll start by saying I am sprinting around with a knife so I'm kinda close to that speedrun mindset, but I have ran into groups who trudge their way forward fighting three/four hordes in an area where they need only fight one.

I think it's a combination of perhaps new players just reaching Damnation and above, and party comps that are too defensive, like a support vet and zealot along with a ranged Orgyn.

It can be frustrating but that's why I try to play with the people here in VC

[hard goblet]

It's a combination of factors. Retweaked AI director, the new map having some areas with permanent hordes until the objective is completed, console and gamepass players being added to the mix, new update attracting newbies, people generally not knowing how the AI director works, etc.

[hallow merlin]

try to force activate dlss in the config file and make it then read only?
Edit: my bad. Frame Generation is not enbaled. Not DLSS. But maybe it can still work with a config file tweak.

[winter karma]

I wanna de-equip the curiou i marked in green, but for some reason it only toggles between the one i marked in red and the other 2

[rigid wasp]

You can't unequip the green one by equipping the one above or below it?

[rigid wasp]

I lied, it's 691 hours and I had no idea the director worked like that

[still helm]

Does sprint efficiency stack additively?

[signal flare]

does the % dmg reduc from X enemy on curious stack with itself? like if all my curious have 20% dmg reduc against gunners, does that mean 60% dmg reduc against gunners?

[rigid wasp]

It's multiplicative, so you receive 0.8³% damage by stacking it 3 times

Or (1-0.2)³%, whichever you prefer

[real fjord]

Need help my games keeps crashing and I had do reachers of solving methods but still not working

[unique narwhal]

Skull marks daemonhost, walking past on the right did not work. that is what we tried. it is hab dreyko (the tree auspex mission)

the DH was just before the medicae and i looked around quick before my team shouted at me to come

to see if there is another way

the hallway to the far right in the first picture is the same i am looking down in the second picture

the left of the daemonhost is unaccessible and blocked by a fence and a full-on empty cliff area you can only fall to your death in

the down/up stairway is after this point (drop after medicae or up the stairs respectively)

i have no clue where to bypass this DH spawn

[spring forge]

isnt that second image you can just take the stairs up and cant get medicade

[unique narwhal]

i know. but the DH was before that look where the skull is in the first picture

it was sitting squat before both the down and up stairway couldnt get to either of them. to make it clear, the left may look open and the left stairway may look accessible but there is not actual a walkway there. its just a fenced off cliff. where i am is the only access point to this room as far as i saw with a quick look

i would love to hear from anyone an actual path around this. i sadly did not have time to find one due to randoms in my team not wanting to wait around fair

it is the second time i run into a DH i cannot circumvent and people saying it is impossible just contrasts with that

[signal gate]

what

can't you just go up instead on that path

or like,

sprint through

sucks it blocks medstations but they can do that, it isn't against the "rules"

[unique narwhal]

no no it blocks both stairways

[signal gate]

cause there is two paths

there is the medstation path, and the

ugh this is hab dreyko i don't play it enough

[unique narwhal]

like this?

[signal gate]

but wait if it's on the other side of the fence

[unique narwhal]

because that is what i mean when i say there is no path there. where i am coming from is how to access that stairway as far as i know

[signal gate]

it should have enough space to just sprint pass to the drop down

[unique narwhal]

yes one person did

[signal gate]

there is

[unique narwhal]

whoever went next got caught instantly

[signal gate]

i know there is two paths on this map section

[unique narwhal]

you mean the stairway up and the stairway down?

down leading to the medstation from the second picture

[signal gate]

yee, there are times when you can't apss it while it is in "alert" mode cause it makes it more sensitive

yes, both one have an exit point that continuest he map

[unique narwhal]

i thought so too

but that is the one i marked with the arrow there

it is not accessible

[signal gate]

so when it's in that kinda spot you gotta

wdym not accessible

there is no grate over it

[unique narwhal]

the crossed out area is the fence and the cliff behind it

no i mean i cannot run there except past the dh

[signal gate]

that isn't what i'ms aying

[unique narwhal]

so you are not saying that going up the left stairway would avoid the dh? i understood it that way

[signal gate]

skull is where DH is yes

[unique narwhal]

yeah

the two blue arrows are the only progress routes i am aware of for this mission

that was my problem. the dh sat in front of both

seemed impossible once the sprinting zealot got it into glowy state by herself

[signal gate]

one of those paths are the viable path, if anything it's just a players issue cause if you all passed as 4 it would've just went alert but not aggro'd

yea

that is an issue

glowy state can be a hard block off

[unique narwhal]

oh yeah i know if we had all ran at the same time

but i would consider that a block

[signal gate]

so it stood up and like

clipped through the floor?

[unique narwhal]

if a dh is in a spot that requires you to instantly sprint through or get fkd

[signal gate]

well it technically isn't

[unique narwhal]

wait what

what do you mean clipped?

it is right in front of me

i took this screen after we killed it somehow

[signal gate]

why couldn't you screenshto

the actual HOST

[unique narwhal]

because i was fighting for our lives haha

the host was right there on the floor, 3 meters from me in the 1st pic

sorry for the confusion

if it was downstairs it would be fun. just a possible medic denial yeah

but it was up here where i am looking

[signal gate]

but this is

idk

[unique narwhal]

that was just to show people

what map

so they get an idea where i am

[signal gate]

Ok so if it's up, you should just go down right

[unique narwhal]

i couldnt

[signal gate]

there is a few torrent spots

[unique narwhal]

it was too close to the entry

[signal gate]

that are BS

[unique narwhal]

except ofc if we had all ran together

but i thought all DH spawns are sneakable

[signal gate]

you have to run together or it will get picked up on the straggler

[unique narwhal]

perfectly sneakable

[signal gate]

no, that I (at least) never claimed that

[unique narwhal]

yeah i dont think you did

i just assumed you meant that since ofc you can sprint past any DH no matter the placement

it could be a 5ft corridor and you could

[signal gate]

i always claim that an unalerted daemonhost is always avoidable, but if it is put in alert state there are pain areas where you are forced to fight if your team is dumb and doesn't cross as 4

[woeful root]

yeah that DH placement sucks ass

[unique narwhal]

so i did not know you were even entertaining that

i see

damn i was hoping some pro would know a path around this honestly

[woeful root]

the guaranteed way I know of to avoid it is to hop the railing immediately after you exit the airlock

[unique narwhal]

memeing about jumping to death or are you serious?

[woeful root]

i'm serious

there's a spot to the left after you exit the airlock to that area

[unique narwhal]

hmm is there some kind of airlock above "me"

i see

very interesting

[woeful root]

and you can just hop over the railing and avoid going to the right route

[unique narwhal]

but completely unintuitive of course

[signal gate]

torrent tower station, wher you upload false data,t here was a daemonhost on the bridge halfway between the side hallway entrance and the elevator, the "safe" way to pass was to circle around up top and slide in to the elevator from the area above

[woeful root]

yup

i don't think it's intended

i think they just didn't realize the implications of that DH placement and they haven't changed it since

which is quite annoying

[unique narwhal]

yeah that kind of jump is the kind of thing i was looking for

although i would still not say that is "not blocking" because

honestly that is now approaching dark souls speedrun strats

but good strat to know!

[signal gate]

i'm shocked cause everyone on my team was smart and didn't even alert it

we were smooth asf

[unique narwhal]

i mean if the circling around is just a quick walk that is intuitive

but in the case of this map it was absolutely not intuitive whatsoever

[signal gate]

but if there was no way to walk past it and i think they removed that spawn last time they fixed daemonhost spawns

[unique narwhal]

good

[signal gate]

but honestly

[unique narwhal]

DH should always be walkable at least when just progressing the mission

not for loot

[signal gate]

i do like more puzzle based DHs

where you have to go a side route/area you normal don't go

[unique narwhal]

yes i a gree

but

not those stupid jumps

[signal gate]

they jsut need to be very specifically placed

[unique narwhal]

that is just not intended clearly

that is just players fixing the devs mistakes

[signal gate]

sliding into the elevator as a group of 4 from above was probably one of the coolest pub moments of all time

[unique narwhal]

at least i view it that way. i do like stuff making you take a backup route though

feels nice and interactive

like the bridge in carnival

where you have to go under if there is a DH on the bridge unless you want to play with fire

thank the three of you for your time i will go now

[signal gate]

also a lot of people think too much like l4d2

like, flashlights are bad obviously BUT

moving slow is bad

it cares about time spent in the radius, noise near it (iirc specific stuff like bullets near it), flashlights, but it does not care if you are sneaking

[polar forum]

what's the mod for making enemies in the psykanium fight again?

[rigid wasp]

Creature spawner

[polar forum]

i thought it was creature spawner but it just spawns the enemies

might be missing a command

[rigid wasp]

Disable invisibility and, depending on what you want, invulnerability

They don't see the player and you're immune to damage by default, and the mod can disable both

[polar forum]

ah i see, thanks

[outer tartan]

is there any chances of cross-save between GamePass and Steam? only response from Microsoft support resulted in a "nothingburger" with total of 0 repeated communications whole time since me commenting on their offered solutions being useless, and on top of missing out on Vanguard cosmetic set, I cant even play the game again at all((( At this point the main question of "why not just buy it on Steam" is my progression on two characters

[quick remnant]

Not something that they are working on, there is between PC Microsoft and Console

[outer tartan]

and given how Ive both got no Console, and actually tried, and seen to myself being TERRIBLE in any Console shooters(like fail to hit an enemy couple meters in front of me with semi-auto rifle, bad) -- means unless MC Support pulls their heads out of the sand they've hid them in, Im 100% unable to continue playing Darktide(((

[wary horizon]

You guys have a fix for this?

[rigid wasp]

You need to update some of your mods, last 1 says the darktide modding framework (the "dmf" mentioned) is either missing entirely or needs to be updated

[wary horizon]

you're right

[rigid wasp]

Glad to help 👍

[mental sequoia]

This club from melk worthwhile?

[slim citrus]

the stats are okay, flak is nice but im pretty sure this thing doesnt use thunderstrike

im no zealot main but i think u want something more like this

trauma swap out for hammerblow is the more meta option i believe?

350 hours and ive never seen this goober eat a poxwalker? Is this another way 2 avoid his eat attack or does it just randomly happen?

[waxen kindle]

Anyone can help me with On Overwatch penance?

[winter karma]

nope

[mental sequoia]

Interesting I'll skip on it then.

I almost was tempted to grab this but I can't think why I'd use chainsword over evis on zealot.

[slim citrus]

again im no zealot main but

APPARENTLY chainsword is actually just straight up better rn

and savage sweep is a really good blessing

u can ask #zealot-class

[past heron]

Is anyone else getting this issue and not able to view people's layout in the Morningstar? 🤷

[quick remnant]

issue due to mod

[quaint ember]

Hello, new to ogryn class. Is this club good for the left skill tree?

[frosty crag]

anybody know if people on steam are able to play with gamepass players?

[little coyote]

yes, you can

[craggy minnow]

It's kinda 0/4 on rolls unfortunately ( #ogryn-class )

[hexed stratus]

Anyone know a fix for darktide crashing and bricking my steamdeck after building the shader cache? Has worked for months and just stopped randomly yesterday.

[restive acorn]

so why do people say 350 is the point to start looking for weapons? does the math from the modifiers add up to something there?

I think realistically having high values only in the modifiers that benefit most for that weapon is the most important thing, is that correct?

[rigid wasp]

I hear that the base rating affects the likelihood of getting high tier rolls

[restive acorn]

that would be nice to know if that's for sure. really unfortunate that the only downside of darktide is the rng item system

i guess it keeps the playerbase alive

[autumn badger]

fastest way to level up a zealot

[celest matrix]

Can someone help me setting up my armory exchange filters? I set it so any weapon with 360+ stats get highlighted with red, but I also want to highlight curious with lvl 4 perks and weapons with lvl 4 blessing. How should I set it up?

[open ether]

Is there anywhere in the game where I can check enemy categories like "Infested" and "maniac" cuz I have no idea what blessings I should use for which kind of enemy

[thin maple]

sadly not ingame, but this album sums up every part of every enemy. once you get it visually its easy to recognize ingame https://imgur.com/a/AR0Nxo4

[open ether]

Thanks

[hard goblet]

Damage an enemy in the psykhanium.

Text pops up telling you what you hit.

[thin maple]

^ i always forget about the psykhanium. they just stick old frosty bones in a corner of the ship and forget about her

[lofty crystal]

Heya, hoping for some help. I always get serious disconnects and rubberbanding/desync throughout a game

Games on a newish hardware, installed on an SSD, running lowest graphics, and my internet speed tested as 64.6 mbps downalod and 3.90 mbps upload

I've tried looking for fixes but cant find anything useful online so far, and this has been a constant since around release, and when I've started playing again for the last 2 months
Very rarely will I have a game go smoothly and its incredibly off putting, does anyone have any ideas or need any more info to decipher?

[last timber]

huh?

[craggy solar]

the text is wrong for tier iv

is 4 stacks of 10% too afaik

[iron helm]

Monstrosities are the ones that pull up unexpectedly with a health bar right?

[hard goblet]

Yes. Assasination bosses also count.

[iron helm]

For the contact kill 4 of them, do I have to put in the finishing blow or it doesn't matter?

[hard goblet]

Teammates contribute to your contracts.

[iron helm]

Thanks

[hard goblet]

You'll need a weapon capable of staggering them out of their attack animation.

[turbid cairn]

Do Auric Missions give you extra plasteel

Or just QP

[hard goblet]

The only thing auric modifiers result in is a higher ordo docket payment.

The spawn ratios of plasteel and diamantine are dependent on the difficulty level i.e Damnation, Heresy, etc.

[potent mulch]

Hello I downloaded a Mod of Nexus Mods and now other games sometimes get minimized, Is It possible I downloaded a Virus? How do I fix that issue

[red anvil]

You don't push them. you slide and kite them. Any guns with decent stopping power will stagger them. Most melee heavies or their specials can do the same thing.

What are the popular guns with zealots? Are braced autoguns any good on them?

[iron helm]

Someone said you can get Rannicks pistol, that true or nah?

[hard goblet]

No. You're being trolled. Unless they meant using the weapon customization mod, but I don't believe Rannick's pistol is in there.

[signal apex]

can you upgrade weapon blessings

[dreamy heath]

just wanted to say fatshark sucks and the new spawning is shit and it drains the fun out of the game. players confuse suffering with challenge - it steadily drains the entertainment value from darktide to have these spawns. auric waves in normal damnation - are you kidding? 2 hordes and specialist waves ala shock troop gauntlet during a boss on normal damnation? ... you suck fatshark... its not pleasant to write this honestly.

[fervent ridge]

everyone is in auric now

[hard goblet]

No.

[unreal aurora]

can someone tell me what ranged finesse power even means? trying to make sense of this veteran keystone

[fervent ridge]

crit chance

[hard goblet]

It increases the power of your ranged critical hits.

[rigid wasp]

And weakspot hits

[signal gate]

weakspot and critical damage

[cursive mica]

blessings are permanent once earned? or I can only apply it once and re-earn it?

[little coyote]

Permanent

[hard goblet]

Once earned, you can reapply a blessing an infinite number of times to any weapon within the same family that you earned the blessing from.

[cursive mica]

ah i see, thank you all

[tepid skiff]

can anyone tell, what's up with the weird green smoke effect on some enemies? i see it often on youtube.

[quick remnant]

Maelstorm modifier

[fervent ridge]

Nurgle's Blessings

Unit has additional health and damage

[quick remnant]

Nurgle's Blessing (Enemies have a chance to get a buff that makes them tougher).

[tepid skiff]

ah, ok, thanks.

[slim citrus]

new bug this patch?

i just keep losing audio

its just gone for like 10 mins

nothing i can do brings it back its rng

[unborn sail]

you could just go down a difficulty? The hardest difficulty should be hard

[void forge]

^yeah that's what you call a skill issue

[rigid wasp]

To be fair, the bomber spam gets absolutely cancerous when you can't even reach the bomber's line of sight and there's 2 or 3 of them, as well as trappers just being able to net you through the massive crowd that's ganging up on you

It's really easy to just oops your dodge into a single poxwalker and get netted

God forbid the trapper is in melee range, because then it's just fucked to dodge

[cosmic gull]

when you hit a backstab you get the crosshair indicator for a weakspot hit right? does the knife hit the sides of targets a lot? I am aiming dead center at the spine and not getting the indication as often as i think i should

[void forge]

No I'm pretty sure there isn't an indicator for backstabs

[slim citrus]

if ur getting some indicators please be aware its weirdly easy to hit heads from behind even on things like muties where there head its damm near center chest

[dreamy heath]

i have just been waiting for someone like you to give me this immeasurable advice. my gratitute is beyond words. its shitty spawning that randomly just decides you wipe now. fatshark has a fetish for randomisation and i do not share this perversion.

the missions used to be amazing - the spawning used to be just right

[unborn sail]

Spawning may have been just right for you. I'm not trying to push the whole 'git gud' thing because like you're pointing out it's not helpful (and dickish,) but you can either drop a difficulty or adapt and train for the new difficulty. The hardest difficulty should be challenging and wipes and deaths should happen - otherwise it wouldn't be the hardest difficulty.

[dreamy heath]

big talker ^^ i recognise you

[unborn sail]

Nobody needs to play on Damnation or Auric Damnation Maelstrom - those difficulties are there for people looking for it to be difficult

[dreamy heath]

and im out again - fatshark sucks ^^

[unborn sail]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-jerry-im-leaving-flounce-ok-then-gif-17149939

[slim citrus]

bro said a whole lot of nothing 🗣️ !!!

[quick remnant]

Lots of people think they are at an Airport, there is no need to announce that you're leaving

[craggy solar]

the highest difficulty needs to be lowered so i can beat it easily to feel good about it

[unborn sail]

yeah I was trying to be nice about it, but I think he just wanted to be upset about it 🤷

[slim citrus]

best part is he still in the server

im betting 70% chance hes lurking rn

[hard goblet]

Always funny seeing people think they're entitled to being able to clear any content in a video game no matter what qualifiers it has.

[dreamy heath]

nah im just quitting darktide again not because i cant do it its still doable unless the random just screws you over which happens too much in missions now. its just not as fun as it is stressful and annoying. fatshark fucked their game up totally now previously the missions where what kept me. have fun suffering with your "challenge" you wannabes and fanboy apologists without clue

[slim citrus]

play heresy lil bro

[hard goblet]

The fact is there are people including groups of randoms capable of clearing Damnation/other difficulties just fine. I haven't had any significant impact on my clear rate and I only play in pubs.

If it's hard for you, then try a lower difficulty.

[slim citrus]

[last willow]

game shouldnt be made easy but balancing is important

[slim citrus]

balancing is kinda irrelevant in this specific convo

[hard goblet]

True. However their complaint isn't necessarily about balancing.

[dreamy heath]

big talkers ^^

you know my fatshark code show me how good you are - group with me.

[slim citrus]

that is how a conversation works

people talk back when u say things

[hard goblet]

Ah sorry. Let me talk small.

[slim citrus]

this is all an elabroate way of him making friends

[hard goblet]

Damnation too hard for you.

You no need damnation.

Play heresy.

Damnation not going anywhere.

[last willow]

in other games, the devs made it so easy that players left the game, so difficulty should be untouched

[dreamy heath]

well i can back up my claims and im willing to prove it

[slim citrus]

GOD i wish i could inspect people just with there fatshark code

[dreamy heath]

i dont talk big

wannabes ^^

and thats who fatshark listens to

[hard goblet]

Bro really.

[slim citrus]

what does wannabes even mean here

believe me bro

i do not want 2 be you

[hard goblet]

No one wants to be you in this.

[slim citrus]

wait hold on back up what claims???

that u cant beat tier 5??

[dreamy heath]

so funny ^^ proving my point

[slim citrus]

again

what point

u have just cried about randomness and not being able 2 beat tier 5

[dreamy heath]

that i am as good and competent to qualify for the hardest difficulty in this game, but the spawning is shit.

the random fetish of fatshark

[slim citrus]

i mean sure ive experienced a pox burster spawning in my booty hole a dozen times but like

whatever

games fun

[dreamy heath]

cute

wannabe

[slim citrus]

blud

you are 40 years old

u gotta act like it

this is embarassing

[dreamy heath]

and again fatshark sucks big time. they even screw up the good parts of their own game because of their incompetence and hubris.

[orchid sparrow]

is pve game . dont like dont play

ez

[slim citrus]

darktide is in the best state its ever been lets be real

patch 13 literally revived the game

[unborn sail]

The spawning is part of what differentiates the difficulties. Lower difficulty - less spawns, higher difficulty -- higher spawns. And it's not even about being good or bad at the game, if you're not having fun on a specific difficulty, play a different one. I don't always play the hardest difficulty I can, sometimes I want to no-brain cruise through some missions.

[last willow]

compared to other pve games its great

[dreamy heath]

oh bob dont try to explain things you dont understand

[orchid sparrow]

theyve been doing better after the realease . all i can ask for in a company where its easy to just spit some garbage out and call it good

couldve taken your money and did nothing with it

not so bad

[unborn sail]

I think you've got it backwards, but I think you just want to be frustrated and feel like you're right. So you're right, spawns suck. Guess you'll have to stop playing

[dreamy heath]

and about revived the game - the game actually lost players since the patch.

[slim citrus]

me when i lie

[dreamy heath]

wannabes and big talking fanboy apologists. ^^

thats the crowd loved by fatshark ^^

[slim citrus]

you are literally just lying

2 prove a point you dont have

[orchid sparrow]

game isnt for everyone and thats ok

[slim citrus]

go outside man

[hard goblet]

The seethe, cope, and mald playbook in action.

[dreamy heath]

last 30 days gain -2212 -13% gain - guess why they left.

[slim citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/don-quixote-skill-issue-don-quixote-limbus-company-skill-issue-gif-27680907

[hard goblet]

Using words I don't like or understand? Big talker.

[slim citrus]

uh

cause thats how it happens with ever big patch on every game?

MASSIVE surge of players

alot of them drop off soon after

[dreamy heath]

sure ^^ but i am lying ...

[slim citrus]

?

[hard goblet]

Do you not know how to read the stats?

[dreamy heath]

i guess you dont - i can bring back players with an event or update, they realise its shit and they leave again and i am talking about the downward trend again, because fatshark has no clue.

buuut i rather play then talk here, might check back later. have fun wannabes 😛

[slim citrus]

bro like

holy fuck

how are you this delusional

4k players

spikes to 33k

drops to 24k

omg we lost players

[orchid sparrow]

maybe the updates werent for those people then ..

[slim citrus]

?????????????????????????????????????????????

most wild part

after all that malding

he continues 2 play darktide?

[unborn sail]

🤷 he just wants to be mad. No point in trying to convince him of anything at this point

[crimson cave]

Mostly puzzled about the wannabes part. Wannabe what?

[slim citrus]

DAS WHAT IM SAYIN?

[brisk stream]

Granddad i told you to get off the computer

[slim citrus]

[signal gate]

[fervent ridge]

yea complain about spawns and continue sucking my cock while you play

That's a good boy

Jesus fucking christ

there are different difficulties for a reason, nobody's asking you to take the training wheels off

If it lets you have fun by all means keep them on, that's the point of the videogame

[orchid sparrow]

should i tell lil bro i just did a malestrom run with randos ?..

since damnation is too much

[rigid wasp]

One thing I'll say is that enemy design isn't futureproof and there is a chance that the enemies we were fighting in these amounts right now weren't designed to be fought in these amounts

Bombers and flamers are two enemies that come to mind being incredibly obnoxious in large amounts because they are already incredibly dangerous on their own and getting multiple of each harassing you in a mixed horde is one of the worst scenarios the game has

Flamers at least get close, but when you're getting bombarded by two bombers you can't see and one touch on the fire will nuke what might be 200 toughness plus reduction, it gets annoying real quick

It also brings ranged weapon balance to the mix, where it's very easy to pierce through a crowd to deal with specials using something like the revolver or plasma gun, but once you get into weapons like the MG12, laspistol and recons, the cracks start showing and having a poxwalker stop a shot that has enough damage to nuke said poxwalker and the special at the said time can be really jarring

In a sense it's the "you have to run X weapon" argument some would see for weapons like purgatus or power sword in the past

Like, I'm all for dodging 7 crushers at once because their attacks are telegraphed as fuck and it's fun to get those well-timed dodges in a row

But honestly fuck fire spam doing that instant toughness strip and creating massive areas that you can't even touch

[unborn sail]

I think the higher difficulties are balanced around having a set team (or at least a team that coordinates and communicates) instead of pubs with no coordination and I'm ok with it. VT2 was the same way, bring someone that can kill bosses, someone that can snipe specials, and someone that can clear hordes.

[rigid wasp]

I wouldn't mind that too much if we didn't have certain weapons with multiple roles or weapons that just have a weird role

gtg, I'll talk more later

[mellow burrow]

Why is it the nanosecond I decide to do Make Every Shot Count, every vet I run into has survivalist now xD

[hot geyser]

Rending reduces the damage reduction granted by armor for enemies, right
i.e. 100% rending would negate armor damage reduction, etc.
What I'm not sure about though is, does this only apply to Flak and Carapace? Does say, Unyielding or Maniac have any innate damage reduction that rending would help with, or are they solely a different health type? Does rending have any benefit against non-Flak/Carapace enemies?

[mellow burrow]

It applies to everyone

It works like this.

If you'd do 60% damage to Maniac, and have 10 rending, you do 70% damage

Rending over 100% damage is quartered

so 10% excess rending is 2.5% extra damage over 100%

[hot geyser]

As in, it would stack with other bonuses for extra raw damage where armor damage reduction doesn't apply?

[mellow burrow]

no

it's still "damage modifier" based on armor

[hot geyser]

Is there somewhere that I could view the base damage reduction/modifier for each health type?

percentage-wise, that is

[forest cape]

does anyone know if the bring the hurt penance is stil bugged, or do i need to somehow use the regular box of hurt?

[hard goblet]

It's not really a base damage reduction. It's % based and varies depending on the weapon you use to deal said damage.

[hot geyser]

I guess that makes sense
makes it harder to track down the details though, lol

[hard goblet]

It's more useful to just see that your power sword for example deals 700 to a crusher on headshot and then 10% rending means you are dealing an additional 70 damage.

Rending doesn't apply to unarmored or infested though.

[hot geyser]

I guess all I really want to know at the end of the day is if rending would help kill monstrosities better
from the sound of it the answer is "yes" even if how much it will do so is a bit vague

[hard goblet]

"How much" is just whatever rending % you have times the damage the weapon you are using would deal.

[hot geyser]

oh well that's much easier then lol

Very cool, thanks

[jade python]

are the higher rated wound curios the ones that grant higher values of 1.x wounds?

[shadow sorrel]

Do you get partial reward from only collecting a few grims or scriptures?

[mighty inlet]

all wound curios just give 1

[warm nebula]

No. You gotta collect ™️ them ®️ all ©️™️®️

Unless Fatshark messed up the code…

But say, if you collect one of the three scrips in a mission, that should count as +1 towards the weekly quest

The weekly quest doesn’t give you anything until you fill it all out

[tawny fable]

Dumb question but how do I roll for new perks on my weapons? Do I just upgrade a bunch of weapons of that type to blue?

Then sacrifice them*

[warm nebula]

So there’s weapon Perks, and there’s weapon Blessings

[tawny fable]

Blessings is what I meant

[warm nebula]

If you want to change a weapon’s Perks, that’s just a drop-down menu. For the Blessings, you will need to have Surrendered a Weapon earlier, that 1) was of the same family, and 2) had the Blessing you now want to apply

You collect the Blessings by Surrendering Weapons

[tawny fable]

What tier should I consecrate the weapons to before surrendering them?

[warm nebula]

Survey says Blue

You still have a chance for Tier 4 at Blue rarity

And you’re gonna find Plasteel is your choke point

But you’ll only get the specific Blessing from that weapon

So if you already have that Blessing, Hadron won’t even let you Surrender that Weapon

[hard goblet]

Earning a blessing will allow you to reapply it an infinite number of times to any weapon within the same family of the weapon you earned the blessing from.

Each tier of blessing is mutually exclusive and there is no way to combine blessings together.

So the only way you could get tier 4 blessings to earn is through RNG.

[fathom snow]

Best axe to use?

[mental sequoia]

How good is this?

[fast laurel]

Rending applies to all armor types except Unarmored and Infested

[fast laurel]

2 bad perks and 2 bad blessings for the Hsword

[mental sequoia]

Got it. What should I be looking for on it?

[fast laurel]

blessings for the mark 9? Headtaker/Rampage and Deathblow

[mental sequoia]

Ah neat my other one rolled Headtaker.

[mental sequoia]

I feel like this is either decent or terrible lol

[rigid wasp]

So basically what I wanted to expand on this before life rudely interrupted me and made me go adulting was:
The plasma gun and the revolver are two guns that excel at penetration and killing larger or priority targets, with the plasma gun in particular also being able to shoot through bulwark shields and open them; there is no other gun I can recall that has the same level of precision and instant response combined with firepower

Plasma also has enough ammo that it can be dumped when shit hits the fan, even if it's not spreading the damage across a massive area small shot by small shot like an IAG or recon would be able to

The headhunters still pose a decent alternative with their ability to penetrate some targets and reward marksmanship, but unless my memory is fuzzy, they don't exactly go with carapace the way the plasma gun and revolver do, which could easily be twisted into "headhunters are worse revolvers and plasma guns" because they deal less damage per shot and cleave less

The IAGs are also good weapons that work on the same problem, where they don't have the level of "easy solution" that plasma and revolver offer

Fortunately, both the headhunters and IAGs trade that lack of instant firepower for... being able to magdump lesser enemies the player can melee instead?

They at least have value if the game decides to throw 12 ragers and the plasma overheats and the revolver needs to do a lengthy reload, but it feels a bit strange to work with a weapon where one of the upsides is being able to kill enemies that can also be killed by melee

They have the benefit of going against shooters more easily because it doesn't have the slow firing rate of the plasma and revolver, but for that problem we have other tools like the dodge slide, grenades, stealth abilities, shouting to knock them down, and with the exception of grenades those don't run on consumables you need to pick up from the map

I can't recall a game in which I played where I wasn't glad to have picked the revolver or plasma gun and how much easier the match was when I could quickly deal with specials through a large amount of targets

Melee weapons also can find themselves in similar situations, where the only downsides of the power sword can be argued to be its special activation and its dodge distance, the latter being something the player can easily work around and the former being something that is incredibly rewarded by being able to cleave a horde like a hot knife through butter and kill a crusher in a single push attack combo with a bit of help from the talent tree

Hell, it feels odd to use a thunder hammer and see a vet kill a crusher faster despite starting the attack later

When I play vet with plasma gun and power sword, the game is just... man, it's so much easier

It starts going back to the Vermintide problem where no one recommends the usage of the dual swords for Kerillian because there are weapons that do the same function and more

And I think another problem with the system becomes being (very loosely) "powerless" against specific targets, like the ability to take down a bomber being diminished if the player isn't using plasma or revolver, be it because other guns take longer to pull out, or cleave less, or deal less damage and make the player shoot longer for the bomber to go down

And we don't know who's going to see the bomber before he runs away, so it's not like having that one guy using a revolver and being the dedicated special killer™ will solve the problems presented by bomber spam, because maybe the guy with the bolter is going to see the bomber and have no time to do anything

[snow tusk]

Hello

[rigid wasp]

Maybe the guy with the recon is seeing the bomber behind a crowd of poxwalkers and the gun doesn't offer a solution for that (but thank God it can easily kill the horde of poxwalkers, the greatest threat in the game)

[snow tusk]

I need help. My taskbar has decided to keep popping up whenever i open the game.

[rigid wasp]

Is your game set to fullscreen or borderless?

[snow tusk]

I'm not sure. I did not have this issue yesterday, and now I do. Which one does it need to be?

[rigid wasp]

Fullscreen sometimes can tab in not exactly in fullscreen, to which an alt-enter fixes it and makes the game to back to true fullscreen

If the taskbar is showing when it's on borderless, God help you because I can't

[snow tusk]

hahaha

Doesn't help that I keep getting backend error

[rigid wasp]

My recommendation is to keep it on borderless and maybe enable Nvidia low latency if the input lag gets wonky

[snow tusk]

I'm having all sorts of issues out of nowhere.

[rigid wasp]

It's not meant to get wonky, or at least doesn't in my computer, but input lag gets different for people and some swear they see something where others don't

Eh, probably the new update

Don't forget to update all of your mods if they need it

[snow tusk]

I'm such a noob. I don't know what that means.

[rigid wasp]

Okay, then you probably don't have mods

Which is good, at least you can blame the performance on Fatshark, I guess

[snow tusk]

Changed it to(back to?) Borless. it was indeed not on that.

That fixed my first problem! Still backend error though. I'll just have to try again tomorrow. Thanks @rigid wasp

[carmine sedge]

Is there a stats section where I can see how many enemies I killed or etc?

[vocal nacelle]

Penance?

There's a penance(achievement) that tracks your kill

Or you want scoreboard at the end of the mission?

[carmine sedge]

Guessing the scoreboard is a mod

[umbral plaza]

how does critical hit chance work in this game? do weapons have their own base crit chance?

[craggy solar]

classes have their own base crit chance

[red anvil]

yes it is

[analog ice]

For some weapons, IIRC, infantry lasguns and shotguns have a base crit chance of 10%. The las pistol has 20% chance to crit. The revolver's ability to crit is based on the critical bonus stat. I believe automatic weapons have a 3% chance to crit since a crit for auto weapons means x amount of shots are critical hits. This is just off the top of my head. There's a mod that can show you hidden character stats ingame.

This list is not conclusive

[vocal nacelle]

yep

[vocal nacelle]

weapon and class have their own separate crit chance

[clever osprey]

I just completed the penance for the Brig-Command Leathers, but its not in my inventory. Will restarting the game fix that?

I went back to op screen and reselected my character but that didn't

[hard goblet]

Are you sure that wasn't one of the cosmetics which is unlocked as in "made available for purchase"?

At the comissary?

[clever osprey]

Oh let me check

Didn't know that was a thing, thought every clothing unlock was free

[clever osprey]

Nope, I just relaunched my game and it gave it to me

[signal apex]

Which braced gun is superior

(ik they're all good but I still wanna know)

[fervent ridge]

Agri is the strongest one

By a significant margin

[signal apex]

Aight I'll try it out

[candid axle]

sup , here anyone willing to run some shit with me ? 😄 have no idea wtf im doing lololo

[signal apex]

Join mission, kill herectics, finish mission

Simple as

[candid axle]

i meant like .. a team. but ty for the help. not xD

[fervent ridge]

I'm up in 20 minutes if you're still playing

[iron helm]

How does health work with corruption? The more health you have the more corruption you get when being downed?

Cause I went from having like 3-4 mini heath bars and I increase my hp and it changed it to two big bars, does corruption just take a bar no matter the size?

[drifting hatch]

Yes being downed takes away a bar no matter the size

[cosmic gull]

is rending capped at 100%?

or is anything over 100% converted to x.25 damage?

[fast laurel]

Technically it is capped at 100%

Any extra rending that you have is converted to damage at a 1/4 rate

[cosmic gull]

That is how I interpreted the patch notes as well. there seems to be a lot of misinformation. Is there any reason to believe that it doesn't work as the devs stated?

[fast laurel]

Afaik no there isn't a whole lot of reasons to believe otherwise

And previous testings has already proven that yes it is capped at 100%

[hard goblet]

This is how it works. Playtesters have confirmed as such.

[cosmic gull]

Thank you both for the answers 🙂

[rough iron]

I'm gonna break something...

[vital violet]

brake demonhost skull

this will help

[pliant skiff]

Maybe you need to get the finishing blow ?

[rough iron]

me and some friends are gonna go into low diff and bully daemonhosts 🙂

[valid surge]

Just get a thunder hammer zealot

Or shield Ogryn

[midnight kernel]

hi can someone help me with my psyker talents?

cause after update they are changed so much

[candid axle]

anybody here running anything where a noob can leech a bit ? 😄

[plush lake]

Am I able to ask a question about disconnections here or is this about learning the mechanics/classes

[candid axle]

i think everything. classes have own textchannels above

[fervent ridge]

I'm up in 20 minutes if you're still playing

[mental sequoia]

This salvageable?

[pine thistle]

Guys I changed something in settings now I cant see fire on the ground from the enemy bomb, anyone know what setting that is ?

[tall cove]

I havent been able to get past "Processing Inquisitorial Clearance" for two days now

[candid axle]

u changed smth in user settings or ingame?

[pine thistle]

ingame

[fervent ridge]

Drop it, the base rating is a little low and both perks are bad

[candid axle]

oof , how do you not know what you just changed ? 😄 try clutter option higher, and everything with lights

[candid axle]

try bloom

[mental sequoia]

Rip oh well onto my weird 370+ one

[fervent ridge]

Csword looks for 360+ base rating, flak / maniac / carapace for perks and rampage (compulsory) then savage sweep / bloodletter for blessings

if you can fulfill 2 out of any of those conditions then it's salvageable

[mental sequoia]

Will I'll try to be hopeful on the weird one. Also is the t4 for that blessing that gives toughness just for shooting good on the Autopistol? Since pinning fire refuses to appear.

[pine thistle]

Found the answer! In my user_settings.config the value of particles_capacity_multiplier was 0.6 I set it to 1 now it works 🙂 ty

[cedar dune]

is "Speical condition" anything with a modifier? Like hunting grounds/ventilation purge/shock troop and so on?

Also it has to be a win right?

[fervent ridge]

Yes

[cedar dune]

I assume that's a yes for both xD thanks!

[signal apex]

So what mod is it where you can have your weapons on th3 back and see other people's weapons on there back

[unborn sail]

Weapon customization mod - you can find it in the modders discord

[signal apex]

Aw man

[hard goblet]

#📌communities

[harsh rain]

So probably a noob question... How do curios work?
Blessings stack, correct? So 3 curious with +1 wound or +20% health would be
+3wounds or +60%health total.

Do curio perks stack?
So having 3 curios with +30% toughness regen and +4% combat ability cooldown

Would be +90%toughness regen and +12% combat ability cooldown

Or am i wasting perk slots?

[tepid bolt]

Hello people! I have a 30 Vet and my issue is i suck with meele weapons :S Anyone can recommend a tutorial vid that explains the playstyle of a few nice meele's? Im running with MKIII PS with power cycler 3 and brutal momentum 4. The thing is when hordes coming i can't stay alive. What i am doing wrong? 😦

This is me

[red anvil]

They stack on your base stats

[harsh rain]

Yep, that i understand. I just wanted to make sure i wasnt wasting them by triple stacking regen or combat ability so i can use them that much quicker

Thanks

[sand solstice]

whats the max toughness on a curio?

[unborn sail]

Are you having issues in general or are there particular enemies that are giving you issues in melee?

[vernal fossil]

17%

[sand solstice]

cool ty

[vernal fossil]

Max Health is 21% fyi

[sand solstice]

bet

[vernal fossil]

Does anyone have a guide to what modifiers are best for each weapon in the game?
I know max dmg is the obv one, but knowing which modifier to prioritize for which weapon when I get "80 80 80 80 60"ish rolls is what I'm having the biggest trouble understanding.

[tepid bolt]

When the team getting overwhelmed and everybody needs to fight for their lives i just cant get rid of the mass of enemys. I have issues with poxwalker, groaner and bruiser hordes

[vernal fossil]

The only guide that had a good breakdown is the Ogrynomicon.

[vernal fossil]

What weapons/builds are you using? Or is it with any?

[tepid bolt]

Im running with MK3 PS with cycler 3 and Bm 4, i dont have another meele, i just returned to the game after 6 months

im running damnation and today tried auric damnation, everything is fine until the hordes comes around

[unborn sail]

Ah ok, so generally speaking:

1. You want to develop a rhythm of side dodging while attacking.
2. I'm not a powersword expert, but you want to look at your moves list and use the ones that are sweeps. Chainsword for example you can do heavy 1 -> heavy 2 repeat or heavy 1 -> mix in some lights -> repeat.
3. Make sure to check out your talents to see exactly what gives you toughness back - is it on kill or on hit?

The other thing to look at is your curios - are you running any that give you toughness or toughness regen? Health is also a good option

[vernal fossil]

Oh uh okay like, auric damnation is SUPER hard mode now bro

Like your build and skills gotta be on POINT

[tepid bolt]

its not that bad, 4 out of 8 games was a win. But truth to be told in 1 or 2 i was carried heavily

[vernal fossil]

yeah I was cruising in old damn runs as an Og main before the tech tree update. I just came back into the game after almost a year hiatus currently. Im getting my teeth knocked out lollll

From what i gathered, knowing when to do a push attack to give yourself space from a horde is key too

[unborn sail]

Yeah pushing is faster than any attack and better than just blocking

[vernal fossil]

Balancing your stamina with dodges, push attacks, sweeps, etc. its all a dance to keep the hordes in a tight lump of CC

[tepid bolt]

1st curio: 20% health, 12% stamina regen, 22,5% toughness regen, +5% toughness. 2nd: +2 stamina, 12% stamina regen, 30% toughness regen, +15% damage resis (tox flamers), 3rd: 19% max healt, 5% toughness, 20% dmg resistance (snipers), 22,5% toughness regen speed

[vernal fossil]

Yeah i dont see any good curio guides

For each class

[tepid bolt]

yeah, i think i need to practice with more dodges

[vernal fossil]

All the info is just patchy or spread out

[vernal fossil]

Also, sometimes the team just isnt in sync, yknow? Everyone's got to work together.

[unborn sail]

If I have a weapon that's horde clear combo is heavy1 -> heavy2 -> repeat, I just dodge while releasing the heavies.

[vernal fossil]

We can't all be crazy, hardcore, speedrun Solo masters

[unborn sail]

^ yeah this is important. If hordes reach super density on auric damnation you're kinda boned

whole team effort to prevent that

[tepid bolt]

then im doing it worng i think. Im using the power sword activated heavy swing only

[unborn sail]

I'm not sure what the PS's horde clear combo is, so it may be different -- was just giving an example on when I dodge in a combo.

[vernal fossil]

I saw a dude soloing an auric damn for like 10 min when the 3 of us were down. The reason he failed? Bumped into a box. 😐

[tepid bolt]

Thank you guys for the discussion and the tips! I try to practice with more dodge and shit 🙂

[hard goblet]

The mk3 wants the heavies for horde clear. The mk6 wants light attacks 1 and 2. Horizontal angles.

[tepid bolt]

Then im doing fine with the mk3, thank you for the response!

[quiet hollow]

Hey would anyone be able to help me with the warp battery psyker penance?

[odd orbit]

Hey guys! Im trying to find guides on how to live after 30 properly buying/upgrading your gear. But everything i find so far is either very generalised or terrible outdated. Do we have guides channel or website?

[swift mesa]

This is kinda dumb to ask but how does the plasma gun work?

[tame river]

What are some basic ways I can improve to be more independent so I wont have to worry about bad (like me) or downright shitty on purpose teammates

Nothing is comparing to the frustration of a teammate throwing because I messed up something somewhere

[hard goblet]

Buy weapons from Brunt's Armory -> Sell anything lower than a 360+ base rating -> Consecrate the weapons with a base rating of 360+ -> Have fun hoping the slot machine rewards you -> Run out of plasteel -> Run missions -> Repeat.

For the particulars of specific weapons, it's best to determine what your playstyle/preferences are and choose weapons that fit them.

Then you determine which perks/blessings are ideal for them and whether or not they have any important stat bar breakpoints.

[hard goblet]

The easiest and most fundamental tips would be to pay attention to where you are in relation to your team and to not get hit.

Really prioritize not taking damage.

Treat every single horde encounter as a "can I get through this without taking any damage?" segment.

The more you focus on adjusting your movement, dodging, and awareness for that the better a player you'll be.

Ideally, you should be getting through missions at a particular difficulty without taking any health damage at all.

[odd orbit]

is there a guide that can help? i like to learn as deep as possible for things like this

[hard goblet]

Ogryns have the Ogyrnomicon. Other classes you'll need to ask in their class channels. Things are heavily in flux at the moment with patches, which is part of why no one wants to make a comprehensive guide that'll be outdated in a few weeks.

[hard goblet]

Can you be more specific?

[tame river]

Alright this all sounds fine. Practice makes perfect thanks.

Just trying to beat missions despite the new wave of griefers I'm encountering

[hard goblet]

It may help to note when you take damage, what caused it. So you can see if there's patterns to you getting hit.

[odd orbit]

alrighty. Thank you!
Last question. Base stats limits

1. Single stats no more than 80?
2. total is up to 380?

[tame river]

You also just reminded me that I need to go to the training place too

[hard goblet]

Are you not confirming kills during horde control? Is it a poxwalker you missed that got up behind you as you moved past it? How many hits does it take to kill x enemy? Are you paying attention to it? Are you aiming for weakpoints? Are you utilizing push attacks/the ideal combo for the situation with your melee?

[hard goblet]

The highest base rating a weapon can have is 380.

[odd orbit]

oh...and second last question 😄 Do i need to bother with 1-3lvl blessings?

[hard goblet]

Not really. They're just stopgaps for until you can get a tier 4 blessing.

[odd orbit]

noice. Thanks again

[topaz void]

Okay, I keep looking all over for answers, and nobody seems to have any; not even the #🎒support-issues section. I am officially desperate.

In-game dialogue abruptly cuts off about a second before it should, including Sire Melk when I exit the Contracts UI and he gives a comment while you walk away from him. This extends to enemy chatter as well. Verifying integrity of the files has done nothing, and I have no idea why this problem is happening, or if I'm the only one it's happening to. It hasn't always been happening, either; it began at the first hotfix after Traitor's Curse began.

And it's not tied to Emotes.

Does this happen to anyone else? Is there a fix? Is it a known issue or not?

[signal apex]

The longer you hold the trigger the more bigger (idk bout the bigger part actually haven't tried it yet) and deadlier it gets but if the heat gauge that is slowly increasing reaches 100% you EXPLODE

Think of pysker's peril

It's the same thing

[swift mesa]

I mean I’ve exploded b4 yes but I’ve hit 100 a bunch of times without immediately exploding it’s why I’m slightly confused

[signal apex]

Except you can't quell a plasma gun manually

[signal apex]

If it stays 100% for too long then yea you'll explode

[hard goblet]

M1 automatically vents if at 100%.

Only the right click can make you explode now.

[signal apex]

Oh nvm

Again I haven't tried it yet

[topaz void]

:(

[hard goblet]

What platform are you on?

[topaz void]

Steam, PC.

[frigid echo]

try turning off Bluetooth, if you're using any Bluetooth devices

[hard goblet]

Can you reliably produce this bug every time you hear dialogue?

[topaz void]

Yes.

It's every line of dialogue.

Player characters, mission control mid-mission, hub vendors saying hello or goodbye, enemy Specials and Elites...

Dreg Gunner: "FOR NURGLE! FOR NUUURGAAA-"

[hard goblet]

It's the first time I've ever heard of this bug. You may have to submit a report on the forums for it to be investigated.

[topaz void]

asofnsgorfh

I am upsetti.

[hard goblet]

Recordings would help too in that event.

[frigid echo]

are earned blessings tracked across all characters?

[paper tusk]

all human sized characters yes

well i guess if you made multiple ogryns the blessings would be tracked across all of them

[frigid echo]

player with 5 ogryns enters the chat

[prisma pilot]

does anyone know if the devil's claw parry works against crusher/mauler overheads or other such extremely dangerous melee attacks

[hard goblet]

It does.

[prisma pilot]

holy

[tame river]

What are blessings.

Like the weapon perks?

[tame river]

So that I got. I do appreciate it but when they are shared what does that exactly mean. Like do.i need to unlock the blessings to see them on other classes

[pliant veldt]

is anyone else getting this error

[frigid echo]

when you talk to hadron, there's an option to "earn blessing" by sacrificing a weapon, which stores the blessing in a catalog that you can use to "re-bless" other weapons. my question was if the earned blessings was locked to the character you earned them on or not

you don't need to earn them to see them randomly, only to manually change them at hadron

[tame river]

You can do that??? And you can just slot them on other weapons. Like in diablo for example

[frigid echo]

yeah, you can edit two of the four parts of a weapon (perks/blessings) before they're locked