If you fire a random fire pellet at a gunner spraying hellfire on your BFFs, odds are the twat will stop shooting and run for a bit
#gameplay-help
rigid wasp
mental sequoia
How can I improve this?
rigid wasp
Bit of an oofie on those perks
mental sequoia
Yeah I was thinking of changing stamina to maniacs or cara
fervent ridge
wrath to savage or bloodletter, melee crit to 25 flak
mental sequoia
I'd be lowering a t4 to t3 for either of those blessing how much will that hurt it?
fervent ridge
stam is applicable in a larger number of situations (running, blocking, reviving) than 5 crit which is not a desired perk on evis which is a power-based weapon anyways
still better than wrath, both ss and bl are amazing
See here
And since u can fix it at some point in the future if you can find SS / BL tier 4
mental sequoia
Well so I mainly use it as a Frontline defense or charge I'd probably want sweep over bleed
If I'm thinking correctly.
fervent ridge
If you are playing Zealot you are on the frontlines regardless, rampage alone at tier 4 generates enough cleave to be competitive on its own
Savage Sweep is just an overkill security measure, the default option i'd opt for if you are not elite hunting specifically, or BL if you want to lean your power more into destroying bosses and high hp targets
mental sequoia
Yeah bleed might help more as my 2 evis builds are either charge martyr or support martyr.
I'll take a screenshot and remember what you've said and get back to you when I get the plasteel to fix it up. Thanks.
Just hope my shotty rolls 1 of the two blessings I'm hoping for when I give it the last upgrade.
strange sky
SO this is what people who rush ahead of teams think before they rage quit.
mellow burrow
SO this is what people who rush ahead of teams think before they rage quit.
Honeslty, normally I'd agree but with some teams it's genuinely impossible to do anything
They just...sit there
Not even looking for shit
just sitting over the ledge
And you have to go halfway across the zone before their brains reboot or some shit
strange sky
And you have to go halfway across the zone before their brains reboot or some sh...
Sometimes, it's challenging to keep up when enemies flank from behind the team and try to shoot or stab them in the back, especially when toughness is low, and you get staggered. But I understand all people in the front see are markers not keeping up. But if you see why your coherency number is Low, not only will you always have toughness, but people will want to try and keep up if they see they are being helped because with new movement speed perks, keeping up is not always an option for some players especially those who don't know move techs.
true void
fatkshark why
can you please make my real money cosmetic actually worth paying for.. i really dont wanna change the shape of my ogryns face bc of the mask no longer fitting on his eyes
it is really notice-able when ur in the storm raptor at the end of a mission and it zooms RIGHT IN ON HIS EYES
mellow burrow
Sometimes, it's challenging to keep up when enemies flank from behind the team a...
I get it your need to farm kills on stray enemies overrules the need of the team to keep moving. When your eyes are off five miles from the objective, all you see are more shinies and more stragglers just another 20 meters backwards. Blind squirrel chasing is fun, but this is a horde shooter. We need to keep moving to avoid running out of resources and getting swamped.
mental sequoia
Either of these worth investing into or keep rolling?
mellow burrow
Either of these worth investing into or keep rolling?
Well, they're shredder pistols, so
Not really?
Second one has decent stats overall, but you're still using a gun that basically does no damage
And has rather mediocre sustain
Unless you're really desperate and need that swap speed, there are lots of better options out there
mental sequoia
It's for a very specific build I had in mind and I wanted something other than a Flamer or Shotgun.
mellow burrow
The only stats on that thing that matter are damage, stopping power and ammo really,
damage and ammo are obvious. Stopping power is actually your flak pen
mental sequoia
So #2 is the one worth giving a try once I get a worthwhile shotty got it. Thanks.
strange sky
I get it your need to farm kills on stray enemies overrules the need of the team...
It not a matter of farming its trying not to die you can't just ignore enemy hordes with out dyeing. and you can only dodge dance so fast when some people leave other behind.
mellow burrow
It not a matter of farming its trying not to die you can't just ignore enemy hor...
Exactly. Not dying. And you can only last so long when some people drag their heels trying to farm.
mental sequoia
Still trying to get better with dodge and block on hammer. I keep getting too kill hungry. Lol
mellow burrow
Generally I find that with hammer, holding heavies and using the stagger is your best tool for avoiding damage
Here's the damage profileper shot with that gun
strange sky
Exactly. Not dying. And you can only last so long when some people drag their he...
But if you help people keep enemies off of the team, it gets Conherancy, and the team can move on; it's not a race. You don't get anything for moving faster except more enemies spawning ahead. You have to kill enemies to move forward, and leaving enemies behind you to rush ahead hurts the team as a whole.
mellow burrow
What difficulty do you tend to play on @mental sequoia?
mellow burrow
But if you help people keep enemies off of the team, it gets Conherancy, and the...
You don't get anything for staying back except for more enemies spawning over time. You have to move forward to win on higher difficulties, and staying back to hunt strays screws the entire team over.
It is a race. A race against time. You need to have a sense of urgency and stop tunnel visioning on kills.
mental sequoia
Damnation normal for my Zealot until I can set him up. Auric on my other 2. Though Vet is on hiatus until I can figure the tree out.
My big problem with hammer is getting hit outside my view mainly my back. lol Be handling crowds and then all the sudden boom 3 ragers from behind.
mellow burrow
Yeah
There's only so much you can do about that in a team game.
Sometimes you're trying to press forwards and people just go squirrel chasing, in those situations, keeping a wall to one side helps alot
strange sky
You don't get anything for staying back except for more enemies spawning over ti...
If everyone stays together, you get coherence and more toughness and Auras. If you rush ahead, you lose all of that and leave the new player who doesn't have your movement speed or Move Techs to die that get overwhelmed with low coherency.
mental sequoia
But unyielding has been tested vs cara on my build and I have to thank @fervent ridge it seems to be hitting harder now thanks for the advice.
warm nebula
There’s “pressing forward in the race against time” and then there’s “rushing forward away from struggling teammates”
mellow burrow
If everyone stays together, you get coherence and more toughness and Auras. If y...
Coherency isn't worth much if you just sit there and run out of ammo. You need to keep moving forwards or you'll end up swarmed and out of resources. Keep up with the team, or get overrun, that's the only two options.
mellow burrow
There’s “pressing forward in the race against time” and then there’s “rushing fo...
Exactly. And people really need to stop mistaking the former for the latter.
If it's not a knife zealot, 99% of the time it's the former
warm nebula
The team can’t move at “rushing” speed. They can only move at “pressing” speed. And they can’t even move at “pressing” speed if they’re being overwhelmed
mental sequoia
There’s “pressing forward in the race against time” and then there’s “rushing fo...
My build is to play around my team so I'm the one usually having to keep track of them. Lol
mellow burrow
They're being overwhelmed specifically because they're not moving at pressing speed, they're either not moving at all, or squirrel chasing.
I've seen 20 or more squirrel chasers for every non-knifelot I've seen rushing
It's either that or ammo addicts with shit like revolver and bolter
needing to check every nook and cranny before moving forwards
Hate the new ammo system because of that, tbh.
warm nebula
They may also be looking for Plasteel, the rarest of crafting materials
mellow burrow
Vermintide had a much smoother average team, very few squirrel chasers due to the lack of shooter enemies, and less obsession with pickups
strange sky
There’s “pressing forward in the race against time” and then there’s “rushing fo...
Moving ahead forces the Director to spawn more enemies early, specials that kill your teammates, and the toughness form coherency is always helpful, as well is the Aruars you are giving up just to get to the next gate you need to wait for people to die to open.
mental sequoia
I want to get off the revolver so badly on my Zeakot but it's his only gun at the moment
mellow burrow
Moving ahead forces the Director to spawn more enemies early, specials that kill...
Dude, have you even played a horde shooter, let alone darktide?
warm nebula
Standing still is bad. Rushing ahead and getting the speedrun punish spawns is bad.
strange sky
Dude, have you even played a horde shooter, let alone darktide?
its in the patch notes!
warm nebula
The director punishes camping and speedrunning
mellow burrow
Chasing squirrels and hoarding shinies can come later
Why do you think horde waves happen? Specifically to be a constant pressure that forces you to move forwards
You're operating off a flagrantly false dichotomy that works on malice, but breaks down on higher difficulties
strange sky
Hord waves are on a timer but leaving the group spawns more specials.
strange sky
You're operating off a flagrantly false dichotomy that works on malice, but brea...
You are wrong
look at the patch notes
warm nebula
Teammates that break from the group to backtrack for mats/ammo are not helping survival. I think that’s what you mean by “squirrel chasing”?
mellow burrow
That or just,
strange sky
Teammates that break from the group to backtrack for mats/ammo are not helping s...
Not tlaking about that
strange sky
Talking about people who rush ahead only.
craggy minnow
"Oh a single shooter"
I see it worst with trappers or bombers that are retreating
mellow burrow
On high intensity heresy+, the straggler enemies never stop coming
warm nebula
"time to run off and kill it"
Right, that too
mellow burrow
Obsessing with killing them means we won't get moving until the next fucking ice age
warm nebula
However, “enemies keep spawning” is not a justification for leaving the group and racing ahead alone
craggy minnow
I see it worst with trappers or bombers that are retreating
I had some zealot run back 4 rooms after a trapper straight into a daemonhost we'd all actively avoided a couple days ago
mellow burrow
When did I ever say that?
strange sky
Only talking about peopel who rush ahead and force spawn Specials reducing Coherancy and forgoign Aruas to get to a gate.
mellow burrow
It's a justification for moving forwards
warm nebula
That’s what people are hearing you say.
mellow burrow
Rushers are a tiny strawman
craggy minnow
Whale's scenario is that 3 people are moving fast
mellow burrow
Stragglers are a huge and ever-present issue
warm nebula
You may not be actually saying it, but that is what people hear
strange sky
Would it kill you to just stay in Coherency?
warm nebula
Would it kill you to just stay in Coherency?
If the Coherency doesn’t move forwards, it will kill us all eventually
mellow burrow
Thank you
strange sky
You r Obsess with camping I'm talking about people that rush ahead.
warm nebula
How do you keep the Coherency moving forwards?
mellow burrow
You're not even listening
craggy minnow
I avoid moving forwards while people are doing rearguard melee but if you actually move backwards after enemies im going
mellow burrow
"Rearguard melee" is one thing
But not knowing how to do a fighting retreat while doing it is another
strange sky
This is waht my map looks like
mellow burrow
I've done it dozens of times
strange sky
I play only T5
craggy minnow
If someone is swamped with groaners you gotta support them but then they need to turn and come with you the moment they can
warm nebula
But not knowing how to do a fighting retreat while doing it is another
It’s not a “fighting retreat”, it’s a “fighting advance in the opposite direction” 
mellow burrow
Swing to clear the enemies immediately on you
Dodge back
if there's still enemies oncoming, repeat
maybe do a shove
continue
craggy minnow
If i kickback the horde and kill everyone within 10 meters of you, turn and sprint at me please
mellow burrow
don't just sit there for five gods damned minutes when Pilot Lady is already screaming at us
I've literally emptied an entire rumbler stockpile at people for them to move forwards precisely zero inches
half the time they just go off squirrel chasing instead
the other half they just stand there confused
warm nebula
Have you tried using the “go there” pin?
strange sky
People who are rushing ahead can't see that people need help. They assume they are probably lagging for no reason, and you proved my point. Thanks.
warm nebula
If they have extra attention to spare, they might follow it
warm nebula
Do you have combat tools that can give them space to breathe and gather their attention?
craggy minnow
I ping a few times a game and they're generally ignored
mellow burrow
Did I not mention the whole 25 rumbler grenades thing?
craggy minnow
Even in low stress situations they're not very notable
mellow burrow
You could throw ogrynheimer at these @strange sky and co and they'll still be ass planted
warm nebula
And “enemies smacking you in the butt” is a high-stress situation
It’s the old “fight-flight-freeze” problem all over again
strange sky
You could throw ogrynheimer at these <@1070186824502358139> and co and they'll s...
If enemies swarm me, I cant just ignore them, or if I am getting shot in the back and slowed with each shot, you know, getting shot slows you down, and you don't care if it happens to other people, only your self. And you are only proving my point.\
craggy minnow
People do tend to abandon rearguarding people but rearguards are also prone to massively overcommitting
Slide
mellow burrow
If enemies swarm me, I cant just ignore them, or if I am getting shot in the bac...
... So you don't know how to play, thank you for confirming
strange sky
... So you don't know how to play, thank you for confirming
People who are rushing ahead can't see that people need help. They assume they are probably lagging for no reason, and you proved my point. Thanks.
mellow burrow
Seriously, it's literally part of the basic tutorial
sprint
Even sprinting at a slight angle stops shots
you don't need to individiually run up and thunder hammer every single shooter
strange sky
Seriously, it's literally part of the basic tutorial
Sprint gets interrupted when shot its in the tutorial!
rigid wasp
I'm gonna uh
craggy minnow
Once you're out of stamina
rigid wasp
Movetech my way through the entire map twice while people kill 4 gunners
And collect all plasteel
mellow burrow
The fuck is movetech
rigid wasp
And then I'll kill the remaining 3 gunners
strange sky
Or you run out of toughness you also get staggered stopping sprint
so it s not a fix
craggy minnow
The "dodging" state mechanic is not super well tutorialized for how important it is
warm nebula
The fuck is movetech
Zealot zoomies
mellow burrow
This isn't fucking warframe
like
Does this game even have weapons where swinging them makes you go faster?
rigid wasp
Yes
mental sequoia
The knife can do it.
strange sky
Wepon Movement boosts like Combat knife or Duling sword
craggy minnow
Darktide tech is thankfully not nearly as powerful as vt2 tech
craggy minnow
Someone doing perfect spear tech was faster than bullets i s2g
mellow burrow
But yeah
rigid wasp
Laspistol at least used to give some movement speed with run n gun, but since they removed it to "fix" the weapon, it's not worth a blessing slot
mellow burrow
"Move tech" in this game is pressing sprint
and outside of like, Knifelots
it doesn't really exist
strange sky
And peopel use that to rush ahead killing runs
craggy minnow
I think you can get minor movement speed out of certain heavy cancels but not too much
mellow burrow
It's usually slower than even OOS sprinting
rigid wasp
sigmar balls
mellow burrow
Dude do you think people are wavedashing here or something
Are the zoren coptering ogryn in the room with us?
craggy minnow
Movement stats are not movement tech go watch a vt2 movement tech video lol
strange sky
Did he use RD250 as a blessing?
I am assuming this is you now.
Dyeing alone
blaming others
mellow burrow
because you like
afked
yeah probably saw you at some point
dunno who you are but meh
strange sky
Hey my team finished that mission
warm nebula
We’re very personal now
mellow burrow
Yeah
rigid wasp
tech
mellow burrow
This guy just has a complex
rigid wasp
you use to move
rigid wasp
knife zealot, run n gun laspistol
mellow burrow
That's not a tech
rigid wasp
well, knife in general
mellow burrow
That's like
rigid wasp
it is
mellow burrow
CoD knifing
There's no tech involved
I'ts just move
No tech
You're just holding the knife out to sprint gooder
craggy minnow
Move tech was like kerillian moving fast with spear heavy attack cancel 90 degree turn side dash 90 degree turn repeat
rigid wasp
then you don't know what you're talking about and can be safely dismissed
strange sky
This guy just has a complex
I made a point you proved it. People who rush ahead can't see the rest of the team and forgo helpful buffs to be first at a gate they can't open. If enemies swarm me, I can't just ignore them, or if I am getting shot in the back and slowed with each shot, you know, getting shot slows you down, and you don't care if it happens to other people, only yourself. And you are only proving my point.
mellow burrow
Yeah, you chase squirrels.
We know.
What move tech isn't is Kruber holding GK Ult over his head to run faster
That's not a tech
strange sky
You are hyper focusing and trying to move the goal posts.
ignoring the facts
I'm done
mellow burrow
God the projection here
craggy minnow
I gonna be real dude, whale is abrasive but you're wrong on this, i rearguard all the time and you just need to practice disengaging
mellow burrow
It's hillarious
strange sky
I gonna be real dude, whale is abrasive but you're wrong on this, i rearguard a...
I'm not talking about my self
I help my team and we win
mellow burrow
You'd be sandpaper too if you were trying to explain this for an hour by now
strange sky
peopel who rush ahead kill the team
mellow burrow
No one except you is talking about knifelots
Get it into your head
You're just defending camping
mellow burrow
See what I've been dealing with?'
quick remnant
I have no idea what the both of you are arguing
mellow burrow
This guy is like a giant millstone around the team's neck because he refuses to move forwards until every last shooter in the area is dead
craggy minnow
To be frank you won't get swamped outside of your teams line of fire ever if you're rearguarding properly, and if all 3 people are ahead of you you have fallen behind
strange sky
I told you what I am saying you are just trying to change the subject.
I am saying the same thing I have been saying
peopel who rush ahead kill the team
thats it
mellow burrow
Because one bullet pings off his unsprintable ass, he needs to run back and melee it
because he ran out of ammo in the same spot ten hours ago
strange sky
There you go again being reductive
craggy minnow
Oh uh yeah if someone goes off and dies alone they suck no matter which direction
Unfortunate truth
mellow burrow
Usually behind tbh
so fucking exhausting to deal with
We could be literally at the end of the obj
and he'll still be sitting there for an hour
strange sky
Oh uh yeah if someone goes off and dies alone they suck no matter which directio...
that all was talking about with the Image I shared Whale here is defending every one who dose that.
mellow burrow
god I wish this game had extraction timers
mellow burrow
that all was talking about with the Image I shared Whale here is defending every...
Do you just live in your own little world or something?
With a tent
and a campfire
And your anchor collection
craggy minnow
They should let me kill people who won't get on the valkyrie like i do in deep rock
mellow burrow
And the winch you let your teams down on
Management should just leave them for dead lol
We're expendable rejects, remember?
warm nebula
V V sees all those who run off ahead and die alone. SKW sees all those who run off behind and die alone.
mellow burrow
The difference is one of those is one per 200 runs, and the other is 2 per 3
warm nebula
That’s what you see
strange sky
yes people always run backwards
craggy minnow
What i see typically is that someone runs off behind and we get delayed babysitting them
Rather than dying outright
mellow burrow
I'll admit sometimes I end up straggling on lower difficulties because WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT SCRIPT
strange sky
So you are upset that peopel that can't keep up don't die faster?
mellow burrow
I hate that melk mission
Then again, it's malice
Pretty much impossible to lose there
craggy minnow
So you are upset that peopel that can't keep up don't die faster?
This is what you read?
Don't play malice to go fast malice is for actual new players
mellow burrow
Yeah
craggy minnow
Sedition is for level 30s only
strange sky
Rather than dying outright
You said rather then dying out right?
mellow burrow
This is kindergarten level reading comprehension here jesus christ
craggy minnow
Yeah i mean i don't see them dying. Its not a thing i see.
Not that i want them to
That was a statement of what i had observed
strange sky
They should let me kill people who won't get on the valkyrie like i do in deep r...
Okay I guess I miss under stood your context
craggy minnow
Okay I guess I miss under stood your context
That's at the end when we're standing in the plane
craggy minnow
If you could end the mission with 2 steps and make me wait until you run out of flamer ammo i should be able to throw sachel charges on them
craggy minnow
So I jsut ignore every thing you say befor okay.
Do you not know what "get on the valkyrie" means
That's the plane we leave on
strange sky
You have not played a game with me you assume too much.
quick remnant
I am concerned by the wellbeing of people here
warm nebula
Oof. I’m in this picture and I don’t like it
fast laurel
I am concerned by the wellbeing of people here
same
mellow burrow
Look, I just picked the last three people to comment
warm nebula
I would actually be in the back with VV
mellow burrow
quick remnant
This chat and general are being just weirdo this hour
strange sky
Well I am glad you ran out of things to say your self.
mellow burrow
People are trying to push forwards.
And then there's you running off after the single shooter that offended your mother
mellow burrow
or whatever it's saying in your imagination
quick remnant
Not a steep cost for the end of meme
craggy minnow
Im generally in between the positions on how fast to move but i am now frustrated by all the conveniently incorrect interpretations of messages
strange sky
Look I wasn't even talking about you at first. just this ass whole
mellow burrow
...ass whole
strange sky
but you kept defending him
mellow burrow
are you using a text to speech lmao
strange sky
I would of stopped along time ago
craggy minnow
They should let me kill people who won't get on the valkyrie like i do in deep r...
Though i guess this might not be obvious if you haven't played deep rock
mellow burrow
No?
strange sky
so I just assume you are that ass whole
mellow burrow
It's just living in his head rent free
warm nebula
the ripple effects of the nuking of meme chat is still being felt to this day
I see two people with different points of view. They both want to succeed, but they see two different threats to mission success
mellow burrow
there you go saying ass whole.
strange sky
So what
fast laurel
What I see from the picture
mellow burrow
It's "Asshole"
fast laurel
is a WHOLE LOT OF missing context
strange sky
It's "Asshole"
Not important
fast laurel
theres not a whole lot to tell apart from the chat
mellow burrow
is a WHOLE LOT OF missing context
Yeah, the dude tried moving forwards while he just sat his fat ass down, got swamped, died because the others were covering, and then they won somehow without ever moving forwards and all the poxwalkers clapped
mellow burrow
what's the bug lol
strange sky
fast laurel
at the very least it is swapped over to the top left tree
mellow burrow
how did THIS ONE somehow miss it?
fast laurel
in place of it is precision strikes
which is INFINITELY better than having to pick between takedown and deadshot
I dont personally like using deadshot
mellow burrow
fast laurel
your opinion on it may be different
mellow burrow
Oh hey
strange sky
did they not code like
I did not know you are a game coder please tell us all you know.
mellow burrow
Build Editor updated
fast laurel
yeah
fast laurel
I did not know you are a game coder please tell us all you know.
just fucking drop it holy fuck
mellow burrow
I did not know you are a game coder please tell us all you know.
Usually when you code two or more of the same thing, you uh
You copypaste it
strange sky
I am talking about something different
mellow burrow
The localization is amazing btw
fast laurel
and if they did, it might be entirely wrong lmao
mellow burrow
You have to read out-of-source guides to see which times Power means power
and which mean damage
fast laurel
like what happens with exhilirating takedown
mellow burrow
and how everything stacks
fast laurel
yea or ask around in the class chats
bless all the knowledgeable people on all the class chats
🙏
mellow burrow
This has been in Vermintide 2 for like
How long now?
One of these, increases power,
the other, on the same fucking tier only increases damage
fast laurel
mellow burrow
Ogryn rn, IIRC, has unlisted perks
because they removed the section detailing people's starting bonuses
he still has that 20% DR
and uninteruptable revives
warm nebula
I thought they reduced the Ogryn’s base DR, and sprinkled it around the skill tree?
mellow burrow
idk just heard the base 20% still existed
and it seems to track with my gameplay
havent' tested it
warm nebula
The uninterruptible revives is definitely unlisted, or at least buried in a mouse over text somewhere…
mellow burrow
really wish people kept some other passives
Like Veteran having innate ammo bonus
not sure why that one got dropped
Vet is supposed to be better at shooting than psyker or zealot on the same guns
warm nebula
Because Vet used to actually be “Vet Sharpshooter”
I.e. just the left side of the vet tree
rocky lily
is zealot's Shield of Contempt bugged atm? It doesn't seem to work in psykhanium
strange sky
oh dang I must of missed the vet losing extras ammo that sucks
mellow burrow
Yup, the +40% is gone now
fast laurel
he still has that 20% DR
innate 36% Dr
warm nebula
Makes the ammo economy even tighter
warm nebula
It’s there, just no one tells you it’s there
strange sky
I wish they would of Buffed the Ammo Vets get from killing things. Like giving Vets more AM-Oh for killing shooters and even more for killing gunner . Rp taking the ammo from enemy's. not hard.
runic surge
BUG scripture mission doesn't complete. 2nd time 3 scriptures 0 progress
rigid wasp
I wish they'd remove survivalist
That way we don't get anyone moaning about the vet throwing by not equipping it or something
warm nebula
Truly a five-dimensional chess play there
rigid wasp
In a way if feels like a theoretical class that can slowly heal people passively
Ammo drops are randomized and people have to, God forbid, share them
Same with healing, more or less
warm nebula
BUG scripture mission doesn't complete. 2nd time 3 scriptures 0 progress
Oof. I’m hearing a little activity about weekly missions being bugged. Check the forums for a bug report?
runic surge
what forum idk
rigid wasp
It's a good thing beacon of purity removes corruption and doesn't outright heal the player, otherwise it'd pretty much be the zealot aura to use
craggy minnow
Healing randomness is annoying because it almost never matters then you get 2 consecutive 1 charge stations in auric damnation
mellow burrow
It and TDR
Loner is just telling me you're gonna run off and probably use stealth to aggro dump
rigid wasp
Since it'd also remove some of the random elements in healing like survivalist kinda does with ammo
craggy minnow
Loner is so bad
rigid wasp
It takes an element of the game that is purposely made "scarce" (or I guess limited is a better word) and makes it less unpredictable
warm nebula
what forum idk
The Fatshark official forums
craggy minnow
Ammo is a weird dynamic rigjt now tbh, but on most guns i feel like running out is rarely a problem if you're not mindlessly spamming
Having a staff psyker probably gives as much effective ammo to the other players as survivalist does
mellow burrow
Or someone who just melee gangs
Ofc
some people uh
10 small 5 large ammo
Dude was hoovering shit up
mellow burrow
Idr the vet
warm nebula
Hey, if they’re putting it to good use, is there a problem?
mellow burrow
But recon sounds about right
It was a rumbler ogryn
3 berserkers on a party with multiple ogryns already beating on them? FIRE IN THE HOLE!
Didn't even take lugger +25% ammo
Oh yeah
it was a dogspam mission
and vet had scavenger
warm nebula
Okay, perhaps that is not the best use
mellow burrow
Stubber gunlugger and... plasma vet?
Rumbler Skullbreaker and Revolver Vet
craggy minnow
Revolver vet... why though...
mellow burrow
Because revolver is the ezmode of guns
No need to worry about swap times
spread
or even not shooting carapace
Just hoover up everyone else's ammo
craggy minnow
I honestly could probably get away with revolver the way i play vet
They need to make the helbore 3 swap time faster
craggy minnow
That shit takes as long as a bolter then you gotta charge it up too!
craggy minnow
I have a half decent bolter from the olden days and it felt like trash when i used it recently yeah
Especially since they gave vet's instant draw to ogryn
I mostly use an mg12 lasgun for damnation but i pack the helbore for when im speedrunning or playing with friends and i exclusively bayonet for melee
mellow burrow
It's not even instant draw on ogryn IIRC
you still have to deal with the cocking animation
can lose a decent amount of time cocking and aiming if you don't manual draw it
craggy minnow
I havent gunlugged yet
I gotta have my charge so i can actually cross shooting galleries
drowsy timber
Guys, did anyone notice something strange with NVidia Reflex? It's eating fps like crazy
shrewd mountain
Can I disable tag sound somehow?
summer pier
New patch and 0 mentions of optimization and crash fixes 
little coyote
did you even read the patch notes before clowning around
prime bone
someone told me that i should be looking for gear thats about lv350 (white) and 510 (gold) and several milestones in between as items that are worth investing in, but things I'm finding are bare'y even half of that at times, do I get better rolls when I get to lv30 or something?
prime bone
thank the empra for that, i thought i was cursed
summer pier
did you even read the patch notes before clowning around
did you even get free aquilas
summer pier
Are the patch notes not in your native language or something ?
restive acorn
so do people play damnation malestrom/ auric with an expectation of certain meta builds? I want to get into the higher level content in quickplay/ lfg but I'm not sure how much to work on my class
unborn sail
so do people play damnation malestrom/ auric with an expectation of certain meta...
Nope, just stick with the team and have good fundamentals. Tweak your build as you discover shortcomings or things you want to change
On the new map: ||where do you close the gates at during the finale||?
spare fable
what mods crash game now after update ?
restive acorn
what mods crash game now after update ?
mission sorter does i think. hub hotkeys doesn't work
restive acorn
On the new map: ||where do you close the gates at during the finale||?
wdym close gates? there aren't any gates to close?
unborn sail
I've been seeing people say there's a way to close the gates so there's less horde spawn
I'll have to run the mission on a lower difficulty so I can look around
shrewd mountain
if I have lvl 4 blessing on weapon that I not unlocked, but have lvl 3 unlocked, is lvl 4 locked on weapon give me nothing? not a lvl 3 effect?
hard goblet
if I have lvl 4 blessing on weapon that I not unlocked, but have lvl 3 unlocked,...
The tier of blessing listed on the weapon is the tier of blessing that will affect the weapon.
Earning a blessing would just allow you to apply a copy of the earned blessing to another weapon of the same family.
I'm not sure if that's what you're asking.
shrewd mountain
I'm not sure if that's what you're asking.
English is hard.
I mean, I have a weapon with locked 4 blessing, but I have that lvl 3 blessing unlocked.
Does lvl 3 applied to my weapon still? Or I need to unlock lvl 4 to get any benefit of that blessing?
warm nebula
Take a screenshot of the weapon in question?
If a blessing is on a weapon, it’s doing what it says it’s doing barring any Fatshark code oopsies
A little lock on the side of the blessing on a weapon, just means you can’t change it. But it’s still active
gleaming wagon
Could someone help me understand ranged finnese for marksmanship focus? Is 1% ranged finnese equal to 1% extra damage on weakspot and crit hits?
outer orchid
Anyone else stuck on loading screen after selecting an operative?
hard goblet
English is hard.
I mean, I have a weapon with locked 4 blessing, but I have th...
I think a screenshot of the weapon would help. If you are playing in a Windows PC, Windows Key + Shift + S lets you take a screenshot.
If a weapon has a blessing on it, that blessing is affecting the weapon.
I assume by "level 3 blessing unlocked" you meant you have a level 3 version of the blessing that you earned and can apply to the weapon.
fossil root
Any advice on the warp battery penance? I'm stuck on 202 out of 300 and can't get anymore.
rotund pond
haven't been able to complete one game of the new map because the mission keeps getting aborted
dense grove
guys help me .. rtx 3080 i have fps drops when mutant is coming or big waves .. same with grenades when someone throw it
from 130 fps is go to 70 for 1 second
restive acorn
idk ive been having some performance issues since the patch too, but i think it could be server side possibly
grave ocean
Veteran here, how do I tell which one of these transcendants I should use. I am bad at meta chasing and etc
violet flicker
Veteran here, how do I tell which one of these transcendants I should use. I am ...
this might be a disappointing answer but u should use whichever one you like the feel of most because all 3 of those guns play very differently. plasma is cracked rn though so even though the damage/stopping power rolls on yours are a little low it will probably still be very effective
warm nebula
That columnus has the best statline. Too bad that the agripina is the brauto you want...
The lasgun is a little light on the Damage stat, but probably playable. (Honestly so is the Plasgun)
violet flicker
yeah i dont hear about anyone loving columnus braced...
warm nebula
That one is worth a try tho, imo
If these are all owned weapons, what's the harm in giving them one try?
candid sparrow
How much better are my chances of getting lvl 4 blessings if i consecrate a base score 340 weapon vs 360?
plucky sun
aaand now the game is ignoring inputs ;-;
agile ginkgo
are penances bug??? cuase theres ones i already complete but they doesnt count as complete for the cosmectic goal
inland galleon
Hello the zealots enjoyers, I need some advice on how to proceed with my weapons. Should I go for the Mk IX even if the headtaker is rank 2 + rank 3 flak armoured enemies, and take the blessing rampage IV from my old sword? I'm really mediocre at crafting so I need some help before I do something stupid. My plan was to get rampage 4 on the Mk IX, and then get maniac damage instead of sprint efficiency. I know the left one is great already, but the Mk IX has a better moveset, and better damage modifiers repartition on the weapon, so I'm not sure if it's worth changing or not
leaden crow
Hello! Hope this is right channel for this q- Is there a way to transfer game pass darktide data to a steam darktide?
fast laurel
Hello the zealots enjoyers, I need some advice on how to proceed with my weapons...
yeah go ahead and rip the Rampage 4 off of the Mark 7
Its only a 5% difference between tier 2 and tier 4 headtaker
Rampage is also a power increase, if you havent already know that. Power means damage, cleave, and stagger.
the tooltip is only giving half of the information
and yes sprint efficiency for Maniac
great sword btw
fast laurel
Hello! Hope this is right channel for this q- Is there a way to transfer game pa...
no
there is not any way to transfer game data from gamepass to steam unfortunately.
shrewd plume
I have a question about this new Keystone, let's say I get ten kills with my melee weapon, gaining ten stacks of Ranged Specialist, do those stacks stay there indefinitely until I swap to my ranged weapon, at which point they only last five seconds, or do they only last five seconds even if I don't swap?
I would guess they're indefinite until you swap, but I want to be sure.
inland galleon
yeah go ahead and rip the Rampage 4 off of the Mark 7
alright thanks you very much 
fervent relic
fast laurel
I would guess they're indefinite until you swap, but I want to be sure.
yes
if you switch to your ranged weapon. Triggering ranged specialist. you have a 5 second window before you lose its buffs.
if while you're still in the duration of ranged specialist and you switch back to your melee, during its duration. You'll immediately lose all buffs.
mental sequoia
Anyone found a good way to set up talents for vet using Col IAG? I just can't seem to nail it with this new tree
potent hull
Is there any issues with Contracts at the moment? my pick up 16 books seems to be stuck
fast laurel
not that I notice anything about that
though if youre on PC and youre using contracts overlay. The mod's currently broken.
Though I hear it already has an update
potent hull
Though I hear it already has an update
Aye it has, but I have done at least 3 missions with either myself and/or others holding books and it still hasn't progressed.
fast laurel
hmmm idk if its a bug or not
you can file a report in the fatshark forums and see if anyone else has it
I would just switch contracts for now
potent hull
I would just switch contracts for now
Aye thats the hard part as it's 12/16 😛
fast laurel
lmao
fast laurel
Anyone found a good way to set up talents for vet using Col IAG? I just can't se...
This is how I would build the columnus IAG if Im using keystone
You dont necessarily have to use shredder and exe stance for your nades and ult
knotty stratus
what mean how fix
mental sequoia
This is how I would build the columnus IAG if Im using keystone
I'll try later thanks!
fringe silo
Anyone know why this bug is happening?
fallow bough
what does "auric" mean?
fervent ridge
simply means the map is always in high intensity mode
rigid wasp
whys it say this
hard goblet
Because Fatshark forgot to add in the relevant text to the field.
fallow bough
simply means the map is always in high intensity mode
heck that sounds scary
grim field
hey fellas, does killing stuff with melee/range contracts, team based? meaning if my team kills does it count?
obtuse owl
not really gameplay but gah DAMN what is the tune that plays during the carnival monstrosity encounter
it's a bnager
oh wait it's nightsider lol
hard goblet
hey fellas, does killing stuff with melee/range contracts, team based? meaning i...
Yes.
leaden crow
Is there any benefit to playing/difference to Darkside on steam vs through game pass
fervent ridge
no
dire patrol
what gunners specifically does the resistance against gunners curio perk affect
I am guessing the normal machine gunners (dreg and scab)
but not sure if it affects reapers,shotgunners etc.
alpine cave
what is the purpose of the dragonfire round for the shotgun?
gentle tangle
not entirely sure what i am doing wrong here
gentle tangle
not entirely sure what i am doing wrong here
@simple wyvern
mellow burrow
what is the purpose of the dragonfire round for the shotgun?
Mostly cleave
rigid wasp
not entirely sure what i am doing wrong here
I take it you restarted the computer after turning it on?
Never hurts to ask 
rigid wasp
what gunners specifically does the resistance against gunners curio perk affect
far as I'm told, it's the machinegunners and reapers
gentle tangle
I take it you restarted the computer after turning it on?
yes i turn it off and on again doing 2 restarts, ive had this enabled for years lol
the frame generation seems to be working even though it says it wont
just a launcher bug i guess
strange sky
Be advised:
Patch #13:
Added more ways for the Conflict Director to spawn hordes. Hordes can now spawn in different ways to respond to player behaviour, including coordinated strike with Specialists, mixed in Elites with the horde, push from behind while ranged enemies spawn ahead, bigger ambushes with more spread and more.
Patch #14:
Added more aggressive speedrunning prevention spawning
Patch #15:
Increased the rate in which the conflict director ramps up difficulty on higher difficulties, mainly on Maelstrom missions.
weak sleet
Hey all. Anyone know, on the new map, are the spawns infinite until you move on in certain areas?
strange sky
IN T5 Damnation the enemy's seemed to be Infinite. all threw out the whole level. bit that was on Hi intensity as well.
weak sleet
That's what it seems like to me, just on T5 no modifiers. I've had multiple runs where people will try to clear an area, and we've just gotten bogged down since it never seems to stop.
strange sky
I could be a bug. or just FS making higher difficulty's more demanding.
wide flume
ok first time using mods and the patch came through and my mod idnt seem to load what do i do exactly?
vernal plaza
ok first time using mods and the patch came through and my mod idnt seem to load...
Run the .bat file again
strange sky
ok first time using mods and the patch came through and my mod idnt seem to load...
Don't play with mods they always break the games.
umbral plaza
this worth upgrading?
wide flume
Don't play with mods they always break the games.
the only mod i am using is the loadouts mod becaus i like having a loadout for the 7 weapons in use regularly
strange sky
Mods break games.
wide flume
ill take a chance for one singular huge quality of life mod that should have already been in the game
hard shuttle
Hello there, anyway to make weapon swap a higher priority action/input please? Every game I want a fast swap for a push, or a special action cancel, or snap a bullet, whatever, and every fucking game a bullet is fired while I m swapping weapon or worst it keeps chaneling melee chain after smashing my swap button for ranged 3 times. It maybe be for 0.5 sec but already too long... Such a reactivity loss to wait for the weapon to appear on screen to be certain that the game actually do what you asked for.
rigid wasp
this worth upgrading?
Pretty nice roll, but if you don't get a nice perk on the next upgrade, it's gone
mental sequoia
After the hammer grind and half way through shotty grind I'm so tempted to buy this from melk and see if it's workable for knife zealot
rigid wasp
Executor is nice, but also a bit finnicky to use
Lacerate is... ugh
You can change lacerate for uncanny strike and block efficiency for flak or maniac, at least
Depending on if it nets you breakpoints on certain specialists, maniac might be the better option
dire patrol
Hey all. Anyone know, on the new map, are the spawns infinite until you move on ...
yes
infinite horde until you do the first event
no point wasting your time trying to kille verything
and there is no pickups on the way
just rush through the charges
weak sleet
yes
Cool, thanks for confirming! I have a hunch the same might be true on extract as well.
It's a cool concept, I think it'll just be a while till pubs figure out how to do it.
dire patrol
Cool, thanks for confirming! I have a hunch the same might be true on extract as...
extract you kill all
remote sparrow
reckon either of these worth a grab? 
fast laurel
yuh Ill go with the Bolter
onyx girder
this worth upgrading?
honestly yeah
what class is it on?
languid grail
Is Something In Your Eye Penance bugged and I need to throw a un-upgraded Box at a Corrupters eye?
warm nebula
Huh, that one’s not mentioned in Patch #15 notes. Yeah, it’s probably still bugged.
languid grail
I threw a big box of hurt that explodes into six more and was bummed when nothing happened
warm nebula
Oof, yeah
coral steeple
Is Field Improvization worth taking on the Veteran or are ammo crates and medipacks rare enough that it's really not worth it? Been playing a lot of Damnation for extra info
fervent ridge
What does Field Improv do
coral steeple
What does Field Improv do
AMmo crates restore grenades along with ammo while it makes medipacks heal faster, clear corruption up to your current wound and regenerates toughness as well
hard goblet
Is Field Improvization worth taking on the Veteran or are ammo crates and medipa...
Personally, the only times where I've been in a situation where the team needed something like that from a medipack/ammo crate were situations where the team was too bad to pull their own weight to begin with.
They're nice to have, but nowhere near critical for a smooth run.
It'd be better to take a different talent that can be more proactive in contributing to the squad's success in my opinion.
coral steeple
They're nice to have, but nowhere near critical for a smooth run.
It doesn't help that the Veteran tree is bloated and needs the fat trimmed in places now
Assuming you are going straight down a tree to get to the keystone, someone found it takes 20 points for the Vet to do it, 18 for an Ogryn, 17 for Zealots and 16 for a Psyker
fervent ridge
Yea it is not possible torl reach Vet keystones atm unless u skip a bunch of shit
hard goblet
Yeah, that's another point to keep in mind.
fervent ridge
The tree is somehow more fucked than pre patch
hard goblet
Veteran's talent tree is filled with heavy point taxes.
Far more than any other class.
You'll find yourself hard pressed to flex points in most cases.
coral steeple
Veteran's talent tree is filled with heavy point taxes.
Just getting to the Keystone going straight down a tree takes 20 points. And since most Vets go with Scavenger b/c the other too Auras aren't very good, that can make it even more taxing to get to your intended keystone
coral steeple
I really hope FatShark doesn't monkey paw us again with the next patch and gives the Vet tree a second look
hard goblet
Veteran rework? Sure thing. Redistributing nodes or trimming the nodes we replaced? Nah, we're keeping them in and in some cases even adding more.
coral steeple
Veteran rework? Sure thing. Redistributing nodes or trimming the nodes we replac...
And nerfing key ones like Confirmed Kill
hard goblet
And to top everything off, Krieg Vets now have collapsed lungs.
Definitely seems like laziness or tone deafness all around.
coral steeple
What stings more is that nerfs to talents like Confirmed Kills were not mentioned in the patch notes
hard goblet
Yeah, it's a historic Fatshark bingo point.
coral steeple
Went from 25% toughniness on elite/special kill and 25% more over 10s to 10% and 20% over 10s
hard goblet
You always have to comb through the game with an obsessive comb because even Fatshark doesn't know half the changes they made.
Like how frag grenades currently don't deal explosion damage.
Or how exhilarating takedown is still bugged.
Because they lifted it straight from VT where it was implemented this way.
Or just reducing the Z axis on a cosmetic and phoning it in when all anyone asked for was a more reasonably sized rebreather box like what the psyker model already has.
onyx girder
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1174081154329084015/2...
bud forgot to take his rebreather
wallahi he is cooked
fallow bough
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1174081154329084015/2...
when you hug the veteran too hard
cursive mica
is this any good? Im new to this game
warm nebula
It’s pretty good. Not great, but serviceable
cursive mica
should i save my hard earned coins
warm nebula
-The dump stat is correct
-wish there was a bit more in Damage
-change Crit to Flak perk
-change out Stripped Down maybe?
I’d say don’t buy it
cursive mica
ok
warm nebula
You really want the Agrippina braced autogun, not the Graia
cursive mica
i waited for a thunder hammer for almost 2 weeks now, none appear :{
warm nebula
Oof
cursive mica
thanks
warm nebula
You could try Brunt’s Slot Machine Armory
warm nebula
It’s a gamble tho, he most often gives you base 330 or lower, which is not what you want
It’s hard to get a 360+ out of him. At least he will always give you hammer (or whatever exact weapon you ask him for)
pliant skiff
Yea
cursive mica
ooo
warm nebula
(I think you want Defenses to be the dumpstat)
cursive mica
so i just add perks now?
warm nebula
Now let Hadron brick Consecrate it
pliant skiff
Hadron giveth and Hadron taketh away
warm nebula
I don’t remember the ideal setup for a Hammer. I’m pretty sure it’s not Flakiac perks… but I could be wrong
warm nebula
Eh, it’s not a brick yet. Plus stamina will let you keep push-attack-canceling longer
cursive mica
so i consecate again
cursive mica
cursive mica
warm nebula
(You will be able to change two out of the four perks&blessings)
Ooooooo
Das gif
Lucky you
warm nebula
Those Blessings are great
cursive mica
but is just rank 3
cursive mica
i have to remove sprint right
warm nebula
You got a monstrosity bonker there. And an enemy Ogryn bane
cursive mica
ok let me swap them out
warm nebula
Beginner’s luck
warm nebula
Hell yeah
cursive mica
thanksss
warm nebula
Das a gud hamma
onyx girder
das good
cursive mica
hahah, alright, let me test it out
warm nebula
Go, kill some heretics
cursive mica
FOR THE EMPEROR
onyx girder
remember its ironhelm though, the horde clear hammer
cursive mica
yea, i heard it is more useful
warm nebula
Whoops, did we build the perks wrong? I built it to bonk the big bads…
cursive mica
i think it should still work
warm nebula
Does it want infested perk?
The good news is you can still swap the perks
Well, see how it feels anyway
cursive mica
i do still have one this:
let me try the same steps
thanks, i wil try both of these
mental sequoia
Lacerate is... ugh
Really? I was under the impression a lot of people like lacerate. When trying to look up knife zealot the most common knife I was seeing was Las Mercy Killer.
mental sequoia
I saw that one too it looked rather nasty.
long citrus
Question regarding Plasma, before rework people were saying "Blaze Away + Gets Hot!" Is Blaze Away really better than Shattering Impact?
I've been testing in Psy, and Blaze Away's benefit doesn't seem that drastic unless you're just going absolute ham on spam fire. (And by the time you reach 5 stacks, it feels like it's almost always time to vent)
fast laurel
well its the only one other good blessing on the plasma pool other than gets hot
the shot that applies brittleness, you wont receive any buffs to it
and by the time you shoot your second shot. most of the time the enemy is already dead
volatine can either increase or decrease your damage on primary and alt fire
since the plasma's damage is somehow tied to the weapon's charge rate
plain crest
Is that the morningstar?
sand solstice
what should i change bros
plain crest
both perks
hard tapir
Thunder hammer or eviscerator? Are they about equal or is one better than the other for an all rounder build?
warm nebula
I just like smacking cultists with the thammer overhead ||while shouting “no horny”||
frosty crag
best perks for the IV Duelling sword?
warm nebula
best perks for the IV Duelling sword?
Probably Flakiac. You’re not going to be hordeing or monster-hunting with it
blazing dirge
I can change a modified perk as much as I want right?
plain crest
Yes, but youll probably need to change it just once since some perks are mostly mandatory
warm nebula
We’ve kinda “solved” perks, haven’t we?
plain crest
We the pool we got, took a month since launch i guess
fervent ridge
Yea pretty much
the game has been solved for a long time
Bar major reshuffles, all weapon BiS perks & blessings are known by all classes at this point already
It helps that 90% of all weapons in the game want Flak + Maniac
Simplifies alot
blazing dirge
I was asking cause I wanted to swap some perks for +ordos
and wanted to make sure I could re-swap them later
warm nebula
Oh, Curio perks. Yeah their mechanics are the same as the weapon perks
You can’t change the “curio blessing”, but you can change 2 out of the 3 perks. And continue to change them.
I just wish the “Curio blessing” also corresponded with the curio appearance… so I could sort them sensibly
I don’t care about it being an “Obsidiax-Sheathed Bullet”, I care about it being a Toughness Curio
hot geyser
This is probably a stupid question, but
For blocking, is stamina consumption the same between a standard block and the automatic blocking done while picking up a teammate?
i.e if I know I can directly block say, a Mauler overhead with standard blocking, does that mean it is equally safe to revive someone as a Mauler is attempting to kill me, provided my stamina level is the same in both contexts?
sour echo
Why are theses green markers under the missions?
warm nebula
This is probably a stupid question, but
For blocking, is stamina consumption the...
Should be. Dunno if anyone’s done the science yet.
You should probably deploy a cc grenade or tool first tho, if you have one. Maulers don’t mess around 💦
warm nebula
Why are theses green markers under the missions?
Highest difficulty you have ever completed that map/mission on
hot geyser
Should be. Dunno if anyone’s done the science yet.
You should probably deploy a ...
Ye, I always try to make the area safe, it's more just for peace of mind in an emergency lol
Thank you though 
warm nebula
Highest difficulty you have ever completed that map/mission on
That one’s Malice (Diff 3). Diff 4 has one skull, Diff 5 has 3 skulls
rigid wasp
Really? I was under the impression a lot of people like lacerate. When trying to...
It's a blessing that asks you to bodyshot on finesse weapons, which uh... yeah, the bleed stacks don't make up for the loss of damage, specially when you get to the nasty stuff like crits and shroud backstabs
silent cove
Is anyone else having an issue where voice lines get cut off short in missions? Been happening to me since the update
pine thistle
Guys I am going crazy, enemy grenades have a 2 second delay before showing flames? Has anyone had this?
rigid wasp
anybody else having their contracts frozen? my scriptures/grimoires have been locked at 3/16
vestal reef
guys, need advice for a martyr zealot (first time using it, i feel so useless vs maniacs and caparace so i have a revolver), how can I build this (i have the game in my language, sorry):
agile ginkgo
are penances requirements are bug again serius question
?
warm nebula
Some were apparently overlooked.
The Ogryn ||throw box at the eyeball daemon||, for example. Wasn’t listed in the notes, apparently wasn’t fixed.
Dunno if the patch notes are lying or not. They are lying by omission at least.
mental coyote
Question: Are Blessings only active while the weapon is out? I assume yes, but double checking.
hard goblet
are penances requirements are bug again serius question
?
Some might be. Given this is Fatshark, they likely overlooked many things. The patch notes they gave are not comprehensive and left ouf/stealth changed things too.
agile ginkgo
Some might be. Given this is Fatshark, they likely overlooked many things. The p...
orright
tepid skiff
what's auric level, specifically? just a separate mission assortment of 4+ diff and with guaranteed high intensity mod?
are there other differences, in rewards or penance progression?
coral violet
they're only good for dockets since you cant quickplay into them
hard goblet
can't quickplay into them
coral violet
for some reason i thought he asked about maelstroms
hard goblet
There's a dedicated quickplay menu specifically for the auric section of the mission board.
hard goblet
are there other differences, in rewards or penance progression?
The only difference is that the auric category will pay more dockets due to having guaranteed modifiers affecting missions.
Crafting resource spawn ratios are determined by the difficulty level like Heresy or Damnation.
mental coyote
Oh, that's it? They're just guaranteed difficulty mods and are otherwise similar to the non-Auric version when that has a proper difficulty mod? >.>
I figured they were extra hard and had either more enemies or slightly stronger enemies or something.
umbral plaza
Precog -> Shred
X Perk -> Elites/Maniac/Carapace?
or dont buy? (will be used for big boys only most of the time)
hard goblet
Auric modifiers are guaranteed to be ones that make the difficulty harder by virtue of things like High Intensity Shock Gauntlet and the like.
Maelstroms are the ones with buffed enemy HP and special spawn conditions.
coral violet
Precog -> Shred
X Perk -> Elites/Maniac/Carapace?
or dont buy? (will be used for...
might be not enough finesse to shit on mutants depending on your build
mental coyote
neato, might try some auric out since I've been running more heresy lately.
umbral plaza
might be not enough finesse to shit on mutants depending on your build
mostly gonna be charged attacks for big uns with purge+assail doing majority of the heavy lifting
coral violet
mostly gonna be charged attacks for big uns with purge+assail doing majority of ...
yeah it would be pretty decent against crushers and maulers
umbral plaza
Uncanny T3 is worth picking up? or should i hold out for T4 blessings?
coral violet
the roll isnt all that great tbh
they're pretty much identical and will not affect any breakpoints between the two
languid kestrel
what is this bug thats in the game since pa tch 14 where youre like stuck, no dodges, and you cant move. like youre stuck in crouch or something. ive gotten it on both psyker and vet, not on ogryn or zealot
mental sequoia
It's a blessing that asks you to bodyshot on finesse weapons, which uh... yeah, ...
Interesting
hard plank
Question, is it better to get a low tier weapon with maxed out weapon rating and then upgrade or buy a high tier weapon with maxed out weapon ratings?
rigid wasp
Getting a low one means you'll likely get better perks and blessings right off the bat, while the higher tier ones that are sold seem to always have tier 2 or lower perks and blessings
I occasionally get them anyway to save some plasteel and because it's not the RNG hell from Brunt's and I already know the base stats I'll get without spending like 10K each try
hard goblet
Question, is it better to get a low tier weapon with maxed out weapon rating and...
The base rating of the weapon affects the likelihood of getting higher tier blessings upon consecration. I.E. base ratings > 360. Other than that, the base rating doesn't matter so much as the stat distribution which is just pulling from the base rating to determine how many points are available to be distributed randomly into its stats.
In the end, you'll be fishing from Brunt's armory either way for grey weapons with either decent stats that make it actually useable and/or high base rating for blessing farming.
hard plank
Thank you both for the answers, may the emperor bless me with luck.
still helm
Does First Target effect how much damage a swing does to the next enemies?
hard goblet
It shouldn't affect it. But inspecting the weapon and hovering over the stat bar should confirm that.
prime bone
I have all 4 classes between levels 11-20
None of them have beaten every type of mission, it turns out all of them haven't completed an "Investigation", I wasn't sure what it was but I managed to find one and remembered playing them a few times. What makes these missions so hard for people? They always fail but I'm not sure why.
hard goblet
The investigation mission that takes place in Hab Dreyko had its difficulty increased via the spawning frequency and enemy composition during the finale.
It's also not a very common mission type compared to the others which have more than one mission map. So it's not as likely to be on the mission board.
prime bone
Oh so its always that same one? good to know
digital gorge
Probably not the right place but, anyone had issues with Mods not working post update? Vortex says everything is up to date and other than framework and loader the only mods i have are Numerical UI and Scoreboard
hard goblet
I manually installed my mods in the past. All I did was reenable mod loading with the .bat file and they work just fine.
digital gorge
does it need the updated version of the bat?
digital gorge
nah it didnt need to, i ran the existing bat file and seems to have fixed it
hard goblet
Oh. Yeah you're supposed to run that every time there's a new update.
Because mods will be disabled by default every time there is one.
umbral plaza
whats going on with the vanguard cosmetics btw? are they being given later? or are they already in our inventory and im dumb
true quail
my game kept crashing after i updated the mods rip
hard goblet
whats going on with the vanguard cosmetics btw? are they being given later? or a...
They haven't been distributed yet.
hazy finch
anyone get a out of memory crash this patch?
lethal wyvern
anyone get a out of memory crash this patch?
I had this last patch and it turned out I plugged in my water cooler wrong and was melting my cpu
hazy finch
I had this last patch and it turned out I plugged in my water cooler wrong and w...
I am at 55c at max temp
64gb of ram
lethal wyvern
55c?
I guess that's ok
Mine used to get way worse
I'm trying to remember how bad it was
hazy finch
yup
leaden crow
If i am playing on pc through game pass, can I still use the non-xbox lfg and group up w those folks or no
unreal aurora
hey does anyone know what the max crit hit chance iS?
fast laurel
Highest you can get is 100% iirc
umbral plaza
once you pull a blessing off a weapon do you permanently keep it?
or do you lose it once you rebless a weapon?
rigid wasp
You keep it
rigid wasp
You can change two slots on the weapon, then the remaining two get locked
rigid wasp
Yep
rigid wasp
umbral plaza
cause this game tells you... nothing
I assume just change slaughterer for a higher lvl blessing?
the perks im actually ok with tbh
vocal idol
Hey, are the Lasgun sights off target for anyone else? I have to aim between the center dot and the bottom crosshair post to accurately place my shots.
rigid wasp
Slaughterer to uncanny strike, I says
winter sonnet
So if I get a level 5 blessing and I earn that blessing, I should get it right?
Like it'll populate in the blessings storage.
hard goblet
Like it'll populate in the blessings storage.
Once you earn a blessing, it's added to the blessing stickerbook allowing you to apply it to other weapons an infinite number of times. Blessings are weapon family specific though.
Examples like Kantrael Lasguns: MGIa, MG XII, and MG IV all share a blessing pool.
umbral plaza
ok..
decent blue colomnus reward? or keep with purple?
fast laurel
ok..
decent blue colomnus reward? or keep with purple?
yeah the blue is good
scarlet scroll
Fairly new to the endgame, but I think I got pretty lucky with this plasma gun. Is it as good as I think or is low ammo a deal breaker, and which perks/blessings would you change ?
fervent ridge
8 specialist > 25 Unyielding
Leave the Blessings for now, they are fine as is
And ammo dump is not a concern when u got maxed Dmg Stopping and Thermal Res
This is a Perfect plasma
scarlet scroll
Alright, thanks!
plain crest
how can i delete this character
quick remnant
The character of someone else ?
mental sequoia
Either of these worth picking up from Melk? I'm leaning towards the Shotgun. This is for Zealot.
plain crest
Either of these worth picking up from Melk? I'm leaning towards the Shotgun. Thi...
Only the shotgun, but you gotta be very lucky since you alread have 2 rolls to make
mental sequoia
I could get this. But I don't know how good lawbringer is in comparison to Kan
Probably much worse I'm guessing?
fervent ridge
Oh wait if it has to be bought with melkies I wouldn't bother at all, that's too expensive to justify
mental sequoia
Yeah it's a melko
fervent ridge
The main deal with shotties is that they have a gimmick which tacks on top of their milquetoast damage;
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The Kant shotty has flame rounds that heavily soften ads up in spread mode and cover an entire room and does heavy DoT to bosses & oggy elites in single target
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The Grippers is a mini railgun with the devastating single target that is pretty shit on all classes minus Vet where it can be semi playable
The lawbringer has no cool gimmick, you're shooting air bubbles at people
mental sequoia
Is the Boltor I posted earlier useless too? Cause I definitely missed out on that knife yesterday lol.
fervent ridge
Can u send it again
mental sequoia
fervent ridge
The perks are both bad and so are the blessings, even if they were BiS (Unyielding + Cara or Flak Perks and Pinning Fire + Shattering Impact Blessings) the bolter is still very weak in the current Damnation pace after 3 patches of back to back conflict director buffs
It takes too long to arm, and the quickdraw talent from Vet was given to Ogryn, a class that doesn't have access to Bolter
I would just not play Bolter atm, because it's probably gonna be super unfun for you, since you will have 20 ragers on top of you by the time you get it out
mental sequoia
Alrighty Shotgun grind continues then
cold lake
anyone want to help me get Malleus Monstronum penance
cosmic wadi
What r the blessings that r only in tier 2? I only know flechette is tier 2 only
native nymph
anyone have a zealot build for auric mael that they use with any sort of effect, haven't used the zealot since rework
native nymph
I assume just change slaughterer for a higher lvl blessing?
what skin is that
drifting stone
did the patch an hour ago fix grimoire/scripture contracts?
warm nebula
Probably not. Not mentioned in the patch notes…
I never take those contracts anyway ¯_(ツ)_/¯
restive acorn
the rewards for those are so bad. no wonder everyone skips them
when you re-bless a weapon, do you lose the surrenedered blessing?
fervent ridge
if you've already earned the blessing
then it's in your blessing book forever
Earned blessings don't have a Magnifying glass icon next to them
Unearned blessings do
warm nebula
It won’t let you surrender the weapon for a blessing (at the same tier as one) you already have
It says “you already have this one”
restive acorn
i was surrendering blue weapons until i realized how the blessing system worked
fast laurel
i was surrendering blue weapons until i realized how the blessing system worked
I am so sorry
restive acorn
there's such a great tutorial on the game mechanics and all but zero guidance on how to use the crafting system and why it's so random
warm nebula
Ha, the game mechanic tutorial still says Toughness is an overshield
restive acorn
Ha, the game mechanic tutorial still says Toughness is an overshield
what should it say instead?
warm nebula
Well, to be fair it is an overshield to Ranged damage. But a percentage of Melee damage makes it thru, based on how much Toughness you’re missing off your max
The rest of the Melee damage hits your Toughness and reduces it
TLDR it’s complicated
tepid patio
any tips for heresy? Run it 5 times and havent been able to complete one with randoms. As a zealot is there a a build i should run to carry or do I need to lfg teammates.
warm nebula
Tbh I’m in the same boat (see my copium handle). We just gotta struggle or lfg
The real gambling content, is the randos we were matched with along the way
Right now Darktide has a lot of that New Patch Energy. It’ll get better in a while after the hype dies down.
cosmic elm
hi, i have an issue with scriptures and grimoires not progressing in the weekly challenges (while all other challenges progress works correctly) is this a known issue?
warm nebula
Well, the players know it
restive acorn
whats the difference between the crucis and ironhelm hammers? moveset?
latent girder
moveset mainly, also specials are a bit different
crucis stops at the first target but does quite a bit more damage
restive acorn
any tips for heresy? Run it 5 times and havent been able to complete one with ra...
that's so weird. i dont have issues on heresy and im not even level 30. i guess things like the people you match with and their equipment are the main things to watch for
latent girder
while the ironhelm can cleave through trash to hit priority targets easier
restive acorn
is there one that's better by a large margin, or are they better for their respective scenarios?
latent girder
tbh, I don't know anymore, but the crucis was considered better
summer pier
any tips for heresy? Run it 5 times and havent been able to complete one with ra...
You need to learn how to play the game
latent girder
you can still snipe elites in a horde with it if you are good, but use the one you like the feel of more
drowsy salmon
hello guys! can somebody help me with a zealot challenge?
i need to complete a mission under 20 minutes on heresy or higher
umbral plaza
*what skin is that*
extended weapon customization mod. its amazing, you can put scopes on guns
quick remnant
What exactly is Brittleness?
Armour debuff for enemies
tawdry crane
to do the private match redacted achivements do I have to have a 2 man party to complete it?
latent girder
What exactly is Brittleness?
afaik it is functionally the same as rending execpt it is a debuff to the target(what Cacti said but in a more confusing way)
quick remnant
to do the private match redacted achivements do I have to have a 2 man party to ...
Yes, there is no way atm to launch private game alone
lethal wyvern
can i ask about mods here
quick remnant
ye
lethal wyvern
can the pc game pass version host mods? there's a third person one i wanted to try
quick remnant
ye
lethal wyvern
okay cool
loud widget
Is there anyone who can help me with "Gone Bowling" for the Ogryn?
I'm stuck at 56/60, I can't get hordes big enough
chrome osprey
Does Consecrating things (especially curios) ever upgrade a blesing that is already on the weapon?
Also am I wrong, or are there curios that give more than +1 wound?
craggy solar
1 wound is max
consecrating just gives you a new perk or blessing depending on what and which tier you upgrade to it doesnt change existing perks or blessing already on the item
you also cant have the same blessing or perk multiple times on an item regardless of which level of the perk or blessing you have
chrome osprey
Thanks
weak raft
What does Undyielding qualify for what elites?
hard goblet
Bulwark flesh and monstrosities are unyielding. Right, reapers too.
weak raft
Thx!
summer pier
What does Undyielding qualify for what elites?
reaper heads as wel
tribal wasp
i keep getting memory crashes
merry ether
Anyone know a fix for weekly grimoire contract not tracking?
merry ether
no seriously never take that contract it sucks
Just always glitches out or what?
prime thunder
Maybe the wrong place for it but, if you're looking to go from Heresy to Damnation, where should you start? Just jump right into it in random/quickplay?
exotic glacier
Maybe the wrong place for it but, if you're looking to go from Heresy to Damnati...
Probably, heresy into damnation isn’t as big a jump in difficulty as prior jumps, afair, but it may also be a good idea to avoid hi intensity damnation until you get used to the new health and staggers levels of enemies, get your feet wet you know
warm nebula
Just always glitches out or what?
Nah it just takes forever and isn’t worth it
smoky kiln
like wrestling with a bear
jagged sapphire
What's a god roll Combat knife look like? 🤔
ancient badge
What is the difference between brittleness and rending? They both strip armour?
craggy minnow
What is the difference between brittleness and rending? They both strip armour?
Rending affects the current attack brittleness is an applied status that affects all future attacks but not the one that applies it
Except when the tooltips are wrong!
ancient badge
@craggy minnowAwesome, thank you
lime cliff
Hi, can someone help with "On Overwatch" penance trick for the veteran?