gameplay-help

[echo kiln]

If you want advice, this is the chat for it.
If you want a group, #vox-lfg-lexicanum

#feedback-and-reports

[graceful atlas]

Hey, has there been any word on if we can swap character personalities and heights later?

[echo kiln]

AFAIK, the devs know we want it and are looking into it. No guarantees, commitments, or predictions.

[graceful atlas]

Fingers crossed I can swap my zealot to goblin mode later.

[echo kiln]

I just want to be able to periodically swap the voices so I don't get tired of them

[elfin hill]

Thoughts

[echo kiln]

MG IV is ass. Use the XII or, failing that, at least the Ia.
Good base stats.
I'd reroll the damage on Groaners and Poxwalkers once crafting is in if you decide to keep this.
Damage on Unyielding is welcome, since the lasguns struggle to help on bosses.
The blessings are good.

[dull carbon]

This is a horde clear weapon, don't reroll the walker damage

[echo kiln]

The 8% isn't going to hit a breakpoint against 300hp Damnation Poxwalkers and Groaners have 200hp anyway.

[fiery vigil]

Ia doesn't 1tap headshot troopers unless it has a flak affix

best alternative to MG 12 is probably the agripiina or graia infantry autoguns

agripiina significantly better as it pens more targets, allowing for spraying down patrols before they set up or sniping specials without getting blocked by 1 poxwalker

[echo kiln]

I never said the Ia was particularly good, just that anything is better than the Mk IV

[fiery vigil]

yeah tru

but the 2 good infantry autoguns are much better suggestions than the non-12 lasguns

if we're going with flak affix btw, the agripiina supposedly 1taps basic troopers

[fiery vigil]

also the 4 isn't a horde clear weapon

it's just a shit weapon

it's not good vs anything

[elfin hill]

what about this one

[echo kiln]

The sprint stuff is kinda crap, but not actively detrimental, and everything else is good.

I like how thematic the sprint stuff is with the Elysians

[queen lodge]

So this is what I was asking about in gen chat. Both these weapons were sourced today (13 December) with different infernus icons. Is there a reason for that? Does this mean that if blessing transferring was to be released, laspistol and lasgun infernuses would be considered different and not eligible for each other? (And if so, gods why)

Like the wording/effect is exactly the same, so is it just someone at FS forgetting to update an art asset, or are they seperate entities?

[keen wedge]

presumably separate entities, for some reason

[queen lodge]

That is supremely disheartening then for rebless purposes :C

[keen wedge]

yep

i have infernus for a kantrael, need one for accatran

[dusky skiff]

stupid question, where should I ask to get help with a penance? Specifically Going out with a Bang for psyker?

[echo kiln]

For advice? Here or in the appropriate class thread.
For a group, #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[dusky skiff]

thank you!

[cold moon]

Wait until after Wednesday because penances are expected to change.

[dusky skiff]

thank GOD

[cold moon]

For better or worse cause obese fish devs are tight lipped.

[dusky skiff]

they increased the Ogryns requirements for Heavyweight Champion, so I'm just along for the ride

[weak snow]

For the On Overwatch penance, what counts as melee damage? Does getting charged by a Hound count even if I don't take any damage?

Or does damage to Toughness count as melee damage? Or is it only damage to my Wounds?

[lament surge]

It’s any hit I believe, failed it a couple of times with no hp loss. Go for the the assassination missions

[opaque dawn]

guys how long does stagger damage last on a target? does it stack if you hit fast enough?

[rich smelt]

MTX Shop still the same?

[weak snow]

Thanks for the tip! Also, does joining quickplay count? Sometimes when I join, the character I loaded in as has already taken damage.

[lament surge]

I did it from start to finish so I don’t know if the bot taking damage goes against it lol. better to just know because you might sweat a whole mission and not get it

[cold moon]

Yep. Check back after Wednesday's update

[lament surge]

it’s agonizing but definitely more doable than the make every shot count penance imo. if you try hard enough you’ll have it in 1-3 days

[echo kiln]

Yes. May change in patch this week.

[weak snow]

Thanks man!

[echo kiln]

If the bot's taken damage, you're boned.

[rich smelt]

@cold moon @echo kiln thank you both

[echo kiln]

👍

[shy kelp]

anyone able to help trouble shoot random crashes as game starts? (closes without error)

[tame kite]

so does the task for preacher that wants me to get past a mission without shooting any bullets also include grenades?

because thats not fair

at all

went through a whole mission on malice and i didn’t get jack

[heady citrus]

Did you happen to swap to your weapon (even if you didn’t fire it?)

[past shale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zkhe2n/as_promised_how_to_one_shot_monstrosity/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[opaque dawn]

enemies doing a flinch counts as a stagger? anyone knows?

[echo kiln]

There's the suppression flinch and then there's stagger. What use case are you asking for, exactly?

[opaque dawn]

well my autopistol have pinning fire with a tiny stagger value, i fired some shots at the target and they did a little backstep when hit

so im wondering if these backstepping actions would count as stagger, would help if any weapon would at least pop a buff icon if it triggered

else im just holding a meme gun

[echo kiln]

Autopilot is a meme gun

[echo kiln]

What does pinning fire do? I don't know all 100+ blessings off the top of my head

[mellow path]

Is there a specific place to message for some of these player names. I'm normally not gunna complain but getting stuck in a strike team with "BlacksBHanging" and "HeinrichHimmler" is getting old. Someone get these edgy 12 year olds some social awareness ffs.

[echo kiln]

The Fatshark support portal.

https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us

[opaque dawn]

lol sorry, it gives +% power per enemy stagger but i think ive tested it out
even the tiniest flinch counts it seems >.>

[echo kiln]

Good to know!

[rigid wasp]

when are they gonna release solo/bot teams?

[echo kiln]

Unknown. Keep an eye on the news tomorrow.

It might have an update

[unborn pilot]

i have officially seen my character name on a bot -.- any way to change it without making a new one?

[patent sapphire]

Dickot strikes again

[echo kiln]

Not currently

[untold phoenix]

They've said it's a wip but more or less ready, they just don't want to release it in an almost-finished state

[echo kiln]

Yes.

We don't know when "finished" will be, though

[untold phoenix]

Correct, but I'd guess it'll be here before the year is out

I could just be unrealistically positive though

[unborn pilot]

sad

[hot frigate]

thoughts?

[topaz lark]

unlucky?

[echo kiln]

None of those are good guns, but if you like them they could be fun guns. I certainly wouldn't spend on them.

[hot frigate]

yeah that's what i was thinking

[echo kiln]

This week is almost 100% the last patch till January

[hot frigate]

get in rejects, we're saving wyrmwood

[rigid wasp]

Does limbsplitter really do what it says cause it seems bad

+20% damage on first attack in a chain while doing -20% in every subsequent attack in the same chain

So it does nothing on weapons with 2 attacks in a chain and is a straight up downgrade on a push attack since it's a followup to a push?

[topaz lark]

its probably intended for weapons that spam heavy attack

like some axes

heavy -> block cancel -> heavy

[rigid wasp]

That's a great idea but without that blessing it is already an untimely attack pattern to execute in normal gameplay

Example: Crusher and axe overhead (repeated) 100 base damage for this example: 120 -> 80 -> 120 -> 80

[topaz lark]

thats not how it works

you will do 120 each time

[rigid wasp]

But there is 2 in the heavy chain

[topaz lark]

do you know how block cancel works?

[rigid wasp]

Is it just as fast as in vermintide?

[topaz lark]

this game is vermintide

with minor differences

[rigid wasp]

That is really ineffective in a horde... not to mention if it were vermintide the only weapon I can see it work on is sienna's fire sword

Great idea but maybe decent on an ogrin

Or a force sword

The axes in Darktide can swing way too fast for a block cancel and I noticed the first swing of a chain is the first swing done after not swinging

[frail gyro]

Does Crucian Roulette still buff your melee?

[pure iris]

random thing not sure if this is a bug or what it is really, just attempted the Untouchable penance on a Malice assassination didnt take any health dmg for the entire mission however ive not completed the penance. Has anyone else had this happen?

[patent sapphire]

the global no health bar damage one seems to be bugged

the sharpshooter no melee damage works

[stark drift]

Hi guys, am I in the right place to ask for tips on how to get the “make every shot count” penance?

[rigid wasp]

Revolver and hordes with friends or people willing to help you are your best chances

Has the best killing potential in the head while being a pea shooter in the chest on most enemies

Bulwark shields count too so that's a neat fallback in case you get worried about having your shot blocked by them

[echo kiln]

Shotgun and plasma also viable

[keen wedge]

oh COME ON

Melk's lazing off again

i just collected 4 grims and no progress

[echo kiln]

Oof

[keen wedge]

someone BLAM him

[echo kiln]

Prove he's a mole

[patent sapphire]

i wonder if you pick up everything in a secondary objective if it doesn’t count for picking them up and counts for completing the sub objective

i had a run where we got all 3 scripts and got no progress

every time since with one or 2 scripts has counted

[keen wedge]

we carry all the inquisitor's research material back with us and it mysteriously 'disappears' under Melk's care

[keen wedge]

nope i just did 1 scripture and it's still 0/12

[patent sapphire]

hmm

guess it’s just fucked

[keen wedge]

we probably temporarily lose connection to the server but when we reconnect melk's store doesn't get reconnected

welp that's 1 hour of sleep gone for nothing. fuck you melk

[echo kiln]

Yes. Weeklies are bugged. They're a pinned known issue on the forums and this Discord and Reddit are filled with reports.

[keen wedge]

ugh. what a waste of time. hopefully there'll be some sedition grim/scrip runs tomorrow

[stark drift]

Hey someone down to help me with the make every shot count penance? I got no one that plays darktide and I can’t rely on randoms

I’ve literally tried for 3 days to do it with randoms and we don’t synchronise at all

[brittle vessel]

guys whats dat

[echo kiln]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[echo kiln]

No idea what your question is.

[signal wharf]

need some help; what's 'Rending' exactly?

[patent sapphire]

buffs your armor penetration on subsequent attacks

[signal wharf]

oh

i'd dare say this is a pretty good bolter then

[patent sapphire]

yes those are the blessings you want

should kill crushers pretty handily at any difficulty with that

[signal wharf]

yeah, trying it in heresy meatgrinder

kills crushers in 5/6 hits

[rigid wasp]

Does height affect how effectively you hide behind cover?

[echo kiln]

Yes

[rigid wasp]

God damn, aight, now I'm glad I chose a short king

[echo kiln]

It also affects you ability to shoot over the cover.

[lone flower]

Does anyone know when the new Update will be released tomorrow?

[spare tangle]

Hopefully they change the make every shot count penance

I dont want to cheese it just to get it done which is what everyone keeps telling me. Its more rewarding to get it done the right way imo

Maybe change it to make 50 shots without missing or 100 instead of never missing and being out of ammo at the end.

[heady citrus]

On a class that refills their ammo.

[spare tangle]

exactly

They didnt think that one through when they made that penance

on Heresy specials spawn very often and in groups so i get atleast 5-10 ammo per spawn rotation. so throughout a mission i get even more chances to miss a fucking shot because i get ammo back. its like the game is saying hey i see you didnt miss a shot good job here is some more ammo try your luck again hot shot

[heady citrus]

Not to mention why is the penance encouraging the sharpshooter to constantly focus on running out of ammo?

[spare tangle]

Another great point

[heady citrus]

The guy whos supposed to be hitting those backline dudes

[spare tangle]

Sharpshooters main focus is killing enemies in the back line and sniping specials before they become a problem in the group

why should i have to waste all my ammo and stay dry all mission

on top of not missing

its a huge problem that needs changing

[brittle vessel]

what to do at lvl 14 any suggestions

[spare tangle]

Grind to lvl 30

do your weekly missions and grind malice till you think you are strong enough to try heresy levels

Grab guns that have high base stats and save them for crafting

[brittle vessel]

you mean the sire melk missions ?

[spare tangle]

Yeah

[spare tangle]

Save up on the currency from Melks so when you hit 30 you can start getting end game equipment at legendary and hope that it has good stats

[brittle vessel]

from market ?

should i purchase

[spare tangle]

Yes

Buy greys that have maxed out base stats

or blues

then upgrade them

[spare tangle]

Like so

That legendary bolter has almost close to maxed out base stats

[brittle vessel]

i like columnus mk II

[spare tangle]

it could be better but that is where you want your guns

[brittle vessel]

more

[spare tangle]

80% is max

grab any gun with 80% stopping power and 80% damage and 50-70% reload speed

mobility is up to you.

its great to have but not needed

[brittle vessel]

they are expensive af

[spare tangle]

yes they are but you should get tons of gold later

i have 700k

[brittle vessel]

should i purchase

[woeful shoal]

you're not 30 yet, save up really unless you have an empty curio slot

imo

[spare tangle]

^^

What UK said

[woeful shoal]

should be seeing 15-16% tough at 30

[spare tangle]

Just buy guns with high stats until you hit 30

and save your gold

[woeful shoal]

Still seems that running the lvl1 missions is a fairly easy way to level too

[spare tangle]

they are indeed

Sedition is great for xp and gold

[brittle vessel]

idont understand the point of buying new guns

[woeful shoal]

Rate my sword dudes
I was lucky and found a Rating 380 Grey in the Armory...

[spare tangle]

because high stats will carry you in later lvls

[brittle vessel]

like should i purchase this one

[spare tangle]

if you have a gun with 80% stopping power and 80% damage you will rock anything with little to none effort

and if you upgrade it and it rolls good on perks then even better

[spare tangle]

i wouldnt

[brittle vessel]

yea what about the gun

[spare tangle]

52 is pretty low

[brittle vessel]

seems like lvl 14 market

is bad

[spare tangle]

it is

[brittle vessel]

ok i will purchase new guns at lvl 30

[spare tangle]

just continue to grind you will get guns on the merchant with good guns just keep checking it

[brittle vessel]

ok should i do

lvl 4 mission or lvl 3

[spare tangle]

Sedition is 2 and malic is 3 stick to those for now

[brittle vessel]

what are those

LOL

[spare tangle]

the 2 bar and 3 bar missions

Sedition is 2 bars and malice is 3

[brittle vessel]

yea

[spare tangle]

do those

[brittle vessel]

like i like to play with the second gun

more

should i continue with that

even tho its 203

stat point

[spare tangle]

If you like it then yea

[brittle vessel]

first gun has 20 bullets

its not enough LOL

second one has no stopping power

XD

[patent sapphire]

low rating guns

[fair sequoia]

Any idea what would be the best way to do all shots count penance?

[small tendon]

No sorry came her for the Same Qustion

[echo kiln]

Community Update (news) is guaranteed Dec 14

Patch is nonspecific time this week.

[patent sapphire]

revolver, shotgun, or plasma

[echo kiln]

Yup, what Local Man said. Pick the smelter mission if possible, since it has a giant horde to dump any gained ammo into at the end.

Assassination missions also work to magdump the boss

[fair sequoia]

I always end up missing with plasma lol

Or we die beofre the end..

[patent sapphire]

yeah it’s a tough penance

[fair sequoia]

Does the cheese still work?

[fiery root]

Just use a lasrifle and perfectly headshot ~400 enemies in a row

[fair sequoia]

[inner dock]

Does hand-cannon proc on bash or only ranged hit?

[echo kiln]

It should only proc on ranged. I wouldn't rule out some bizarre bug, though.

[rigid wasp]

Worth going for this

[gaunt ermine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQcNd2MBdSo

If anyone else wanted help getting that penance done for the nice gear, this is what I learned

[twin rampart]

do the veteran reload time feats of "tactical reload" and "one after another" stack? I was trying this out for anti-ogryn bolt gun build, but didn't notice much improvement in reload speed - at least not enough to chain together ogryn kills

[echo kiln]

Yes. It's massively noticeable on plasma

[potent imp]

Is Praise The God Emperor -penance still bugged?

[hard hollow]

so like. what fucking mission has dregs rn because ive done 5 missions and its all scabs and I need to kill fucking five more dregs to finish a weekly

[heady citrus]

Do Lower difficulty missions

[echo kiln]

Do the Spireside outdoor one on Malice. Filled to the brim with the ragged boys

[sharp night]

Why do these blessings have different scores? They both give 1 wound right?

[echo kiln]

Game kinda weird under the hood. There's probably some RNG value that's producing the rating but associated with 1 wound.

[sharp night]

Ok mate thanks. Is there blessings that have say, +2 wounds?

[echo kiln]

Not that I've seen, but I have a serious sampling bias there. Others may know better

[copper dawn]

Don't think 2 wounds is a thing

[edgy wedge]

There is no such thing as +2 wound, sadly. Best you can do is stack 3 +1 curios, but that’s not a good idea.

This might help you

[sharp night]

Thats perfect, thank you!

[edgy wedge]

jealousy emanates from me at this moment, that’s a really good find; yet, it is no match for the often overlooked combat knife

[edgy wedge]

Play Malice difficulty missions with Scriptures and Low Intensity if you can ever find one. Low intensity nets an extra 900 exp alone (for some reason) along with 3 scriptures giving another 600.

[tepid skiff]

where's this from, if you don't mind?

[edgy wedge]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits?type=a72041a7-86c2-4240-b619-fa3a10238fa5
This website overall has a lot of info

[ember iris]

Aye or naye for zealot?

[edgy wedge]

An Ogryn using his special with the shield is impervious to damage from the daemonhost; you’ll very slowly take corruption but it’s better than wiping. There’s no point to killing them anyways, besides perhaps farming monstrosity kills for Melk’s weeklies

[slender gyro]

I know it's just that sometimes you don't mean to aggro them or there is no way around and I was wondering if there was a way to beat them, thanks for tip

[echo kiln]

They're a DPS check. Shoot hard, preferably bring a shield ogryn

[slender gyro]

I know, I was wondering if there was a way around them

Like a weakness to exploit like stunning them or something, etc

the ogryn shield one was a good one

[edgy wedge]

I’d say aye, though it’s far harder to use well.

[abstract kayak]

Found a 380 base PowerSword and then proceed to roll poop

[edgy wedge]

…those are pretty good rolls for that weapon imo. You could definitely get better, but especially the blessings will help a lot.

[ember iris]

Would you say the rolls are good for the knife, or should I go for bleed, instead?

[abstract kayak]

My other powersword has better blessings but this one feels so much better

I think the extra finesee is what really helped me

[edgy wedge]

The rolls are extremely mediocre

[echo kiln]

Wrath is whatever, but the rest is damn good

[abstract kayak]

Guess I'll rerolld that blessing tomorrow then

[echo kiln]

No, you won't. Tomorrow is perk rerolling

[abstract kayak]

ah..

POOP

[edgy wedge]

sad

It’s pretty awesome for curios though

[abstract kayak]

I guess infested is pretty good, I feel weakest in a mob

so being able to kill them faster helps

Does anyone know if rerolling the perk will lock the other stats?

I hear thats the case

[echo kiln]

It locks the other perk, yes.

[ember iris]

It will lock the rest of the perks afaik.

[abstract kayak]

But not blessing?

[echo kiln]

Blessings are not perks

[abstract kayak]

Just wanted to be double sure, sometimes the wording in the game is incorrect

[ember iris]

When there is wording, that is.

[echo kiln]

Blessing changes are the next thing in the crafting release schedule

[floral vessel]

how useful is +1 wound?

[echo kiln]

Very.

[floral vessel]

i only run lvl3 atm, leveling up my friends

will try here too... does "enemy hit mass" works on power sword? It seems like charged cleave on it is already unlimited

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1052345778749853716/image.png

blessings seems pretty good

[echo kiln]

Hit mass opposes cleave. The normal swings will care about this
The charged swings DGAF

[sharp night]

apologies if this is a really dumb question but, are the contracts account bound or per character?

[floral vessel]

character

[echo kiln]

Character silo, every every other fucking thing

[floral vessel]

so in some very dense situation it can prove useful, when i don't have time to charge

[echo kiln]

Yes, but I'd still get rid of it ASAP once blessing crafting releases

Still a damn good sword.

[twin sinew]

Which stats should you prioritize on a surge staff?

[floral vessel]

what's preferred rolls on power sword?

rampage seems to be good

[lone flower]

Could someone explain me the Difference of "Accatran Mk II Recon Lasgun" (green) and "Accatran Mk VId Recon Lasgun" (blue)

[echo kiln]

Boy oh boy, time for The Link again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipd2VlfFAaY&list=PLfCMslhKu-Xd2zB5y-9yf2Ikv_oDHlSak&index=2&t=897s

[echo kiln]

Power Cycler is good, Rampage is good, slaughterer is super good, supercharge is good

[floral vessel]

thanks, noted

i can just extract one from blue sword and replace on my, right?

after they open craft

[echo kiln]

That seems to be what they're planning based on prior posts, yes.

[waxen nest]

is there any word on the mobs spawning behind you bug yet as i have seen this happen like 4 to 6 times so far

[echo kiln]

No.
There may be something about it in the news tomorrow or the upcoming patch. We'll all find out together

[signal wharf]

thank you for giving me limb splitter on a flurry axe, fatshark

[waxen nest]

dam

[signal wharf]

very cool.

[waxen nest]

is crafting coming out tomorrow ? or not ?

[echo kiln]

I'm so tempted to just link you to the article announcement in #📢news-bulletin , but I'll be nice.

In our next content update, we will add the “Refine Item” functionality to our crafting system. This functionality will allow you to replace one Perk on a Curio or a Weapon. The same Perk slot can be replaced multiple times, but will block replacing other perks on the same item. This is the next step in building out our crafting system.```

[waxen nest]

cool

thanks

[abstract kayak]

Which perk should I reroll tomorrow?

[echo kiln]

That crappy crit chance

[topaz lark]

considering how the upcoming system was described, you should be thinking of what perk you want to keep forever

[echo kiln]

Yes.

[topaz lark]

in that particular case, both are meh

[echo kiln]

Yes. I'd keep the infested damage, though, but I'd double check the damnation infested heavy charge attack breakpoint without it to be sure first.

4% crit is just so underwhelming.

[topaz lark]

whats the max on crit chance?

imagine being able to replace both perks
if only it wasnt immeasurably complex to implement

[echo kiln]

I think it's 8%, but I would put money on it. I can't find my link that has all the perks

[topaz lark]

at this point I miss the old VT2 reroll system

at least I knew I could always unfuck any mistake I make

[wispy plume]

Anyone got recommendations on how to get plasteel, feel like plasteel is more scarce on Heresy+

[topaz lark]

it is

play Malice

[wispy plume]

Aight bet

[echo kiln]

Malice is the mat farming difficulty.

[topaz lark]

I havent touched crafting, and so far all my chars are 4:1 on mats

as in, plasteel to diamantite

[midnight iris]

hey, im new and just joined a quick play game session, how long should it take to load me in?

Ive been staring at this floating skull for about 10 min

[echo kiln]

Do you have an HDD or SSD?
If HDD, how fast does it spin?

10 min, if you're not exaggerating, indicates something seriously wrong and your system probably can't run the game

[upper sluice]

Anyone able to help me navigate the forums to post a support ticket? i am so lost

[echo kiln]

#technical-support

That's the exact forum for it.

[midnight iris]

SSD, and I highly doubt that is the case

[echo kiln]

Then something's wrong, assuming you have enough RAM. Start by restarting the game and run troubleshooting from there.

[topaz lark]

then its probably actually locked

as in, game fucked up and you will never load

[echo kiln]

I had a guy the other day ask why the game wasn't working properly. Turns out he had 8 gb of RAM...

[midnight iris]

32 is enough, right?

[echo kiln]

Overkill.

[waxen nest]

lol

i only have 16gb but mine suck as it is 2666mhz i think i need to get better but don't have the £

[echo kiln]

Check if you can run it at a higher speed in the bios

[waxen nest]

i ask a freind and he says i can only go to 3200

[echo kiln]

That'll boost performance.

[waxen nest]

it is the the ram is only at makers 2666 so need to buy a faster one

[echo kiln]

The base speed of the RAM stick and the speed it is capable of with overclocking are not the same. Check into overclocking your RAM before throwing money at it. RAM that lists a 3200 speed on the tin will still run at a lower speed unless you set the bios properly

[waxen nest]

oh

[ocean raft]

Hello guys what is the bleed mechanic

[echo kiln]

It's DOT applied to enemies. What exactly are you asking?

[ocean raft]

dmg is flat or % max hp?

[edgy wedge]

10 min is actually about right for an HDD if it’s full of bloatware. It’s probably not his hard drive or specs, but rather what’s running on his computer at the same time

My friend running it on an hdd loads in about 6 minutes

[echo kiln]

Flat, based on stacks

[edgy wedge]

I started a new ogryn and since it’s my third character I’m trying to get to level thirty, I’m pretty good at the game. So I’ve been grinding heresy and now I literally don’t have enough plasteel for anything, ever. Swimming in diamantine tho

[topaz lark]

I havent touched heresy since its broken, playing malice gives the above-mentioned ratio of mats

[edgy wedge]

Wait, how’s heresy broken?

[topaz lark]

all missions have endless horde modifier

unless they have another one

Im used to cata in VT2 but im not into endless hordes and specials

[tepid skiff]

it's all fun and games until you have to fix the interrogator.

[topaz lark]

I'll just wait until I can actually decide when and what map I play

[ocean raft]

Hey what is soulbalze?

[fair sequoia]

Anyone to help me do Make Every Shot count?

[tepid skiff]

like burn, but for wizards. a weak damage over time effect.

like really weak.

[pure oasis]

Wtf someone joined our game, took the grimoire and destroyed it and then left

Is that a thing now?

[brisk olive]

A damage over time psychic fire. I'm not 100% how the soul fire or bleed stacks work, but I know that the damage per tick grows exponentially.

2 stacks seems to do 4-8 damage depending on enemy and armor.

10+ stacks can easily be doing over 100 damage per tick a few times before rapidly decaying to lower numbers of stacks

[brisk olive]

Sucks to hear about griefers like that. But you could always do that to Grims if the corruption effect was becoming too much for the team. Someone was just taking advantage of the system

[pure oasis]

so frustrating. I've been questing for a specific secondary objective quest, finally find one and get griefed

[jade falcon]

is on overwatch penance bugged? i thought i had done it three times by now withourt any damage taken and i didnt get it

[median sapphire]

Can anyone tell me how I should determine the damage a (melee) weapon does, when I want to compare two weapons? If a melee weapons has a light attack stat of 138 and a damage modifier of 28%, does that mean it does an approximate damage per light attack of 177 (138 * 1.28)?

Basically what I wonder is, when a weapon has a Light Attack stat of 200 with a 10% modifier, is that weaker than a weapon with a Light Attack stat of 180, but a 60% modifier?

I can't seem to figure out on my own whether the big Light Attack stat being shown on the weapons already takes the modifier bars into account or not

[midnight iris]

Hey, I am stuck in the drop pod in a ever ending loading loop. Is that a common issue?

[brave rose]

Wondering if anyone can help me get the "On Overwatch" Penance done

[simple kite]

I'ma be honest. I'm alright with, or at least tolerate, a lot of the poor game design choices in this game. But I can't fucking STAND that they still haven't fixed the "contracts don't update randomly because fuck you" bug after four weeks of bug reporting. Fighting through a double grimoire map with a daemonhost kill only to get back and see no progress is infuriating.

Does anyone have any possible information as to either A. how to rectify the bug when it occurs (a guy in my last game said "log out and back in and it'll fix it" and that definitely did not work); or B. any sort of actual condition in which it occurs? Because I can't find any rhyme or reason to it. Sometimes it counts or doesn't if there's 0 kills. Sometimes it counts or doesn't if someone DCed in the game. Sometimes it counts or doesn't if someone joins late. Sometimes it counts or doesn't if it's your fifth game since logging in. Sometimes the first. I can't figure out any parameters for why it doesn't update, and after my last map I don't even want to play anymore tonight.

[lean stratus]

Hey guys, i hope all of you are alright :D. Sorry for my English, i´m from Germany. Can somebody help me with the Psyker archivement (i have to kill 3 people when i explode)?

*i have to kill 3 elite when i explode

[simple kite]

You're looking for the #vox-lfg-emea channel

[lean stratus]

Thank you very much 😄

[simple kite]

Kein Problem

[fickle wasp]

whats this

is this lootboxes

[hazy cobalt]

It's a crafting resource.

[pearl kayak]

Can someone tell me why the weapon with a higher damage roll has less damage on the tooltip?

[fickle wasp]

awh no lootboxes

what class is that

answer me soldeir

[pearl kayak]

zealot

[blazing schooner]

I have issue where steam thinks darktide is still running after i close the game or whenever the game crashes and need to task manager close steam to beable to to restart darktide. Any1 know any fix to this issue?

[pearl kayak]

@fickle wasp

[fickle wasp]

thank you soldeir

🫡

[edgy wedge]

ok i'm baffled tbh

[deft agate]

are all penance cosmetics in the store as recolors? can i just level to 30 and buy similar ones with gold?

[blazing schooner]

the only possibility may be due to first target playing some weird role in damage calc but idk

[formal pecan]

are servers down?

[edgy wedge]

no

[deft agate]

which ones are then?

[edgy wedge]

there are recolors for the cosmetics you get from the trust level penances

[deft agate]

but i see recolors of helmets?

do u get a helmet from leveling?

[edgy wedge]

those arent penance items you can get

[heady citrus]

Whelp now the game is crashing when i reach the character screen

[edgy wedge]

the penance helmets are entirely different and unique to each class

[deft agate]

yeah but do you get helmets without penances? i thought those were only penance rewards

my highest character is 25 and i hadnt seen any yet so i guess they go in the store at 30?

[valid parrot]

So about weapons you get after missions:
Is it random when i get one, or after every idk 3-4 levels ? (even after level 30)

[edgy wedge]

maybe? my ogryn is 28 and cant see them, but my zealot and veteran are 30 and do see them

[deft agate]

emperor gifts are random yeah

[valid parrot]

Thanks :)

good to know

[deft agate]

ight thank u i just keep seeing psykers with diff color hoods and was wondering when i get those

[valid parrot]

have mine too other color, i am just to dumb for the 7 cliff thing

[deft agate]

psyker penances are just so god awful that i cant force myself to do them to get the cool tier 3 hood, so im just pretending theyre not there lmao

[formal pecan]

would anyone be down to help me get Just a Flesh wound?

[valid parrot]

THIS, i wanted to to the headpop monster in beta, but my friend wanted to play when its full relleas.
now its not malice, but heresy... i just cant convince players to do this with me

[valid parrot]

best chances by asking in the Zealot chat

[south sparrow]

Is this any good? Do you guys think higher melee damage is necessary?

[nova cipher]

no to the melee dmg, but higher blast radius is nice

you want a bigger boom

@south sparrow

[nova cipher]

You get a helm awarded to you if you participated in the beta.
You get a helm awarded to you when you complete one of 3 different penances.
There's helms you can purchase from the cosmetic side of the armoury shop that cost dockets.
There's helms you can purchase from the cosmetic cash shop that cost real cash money.

I believe those are the only helms in the game if I'm not mistaken ....

[deft agate]

ty thats all i was asking

what level they appear in the gold shop

[nova cipher]

no worries

25 I think it is

for each toon

[echo kiln]

First target percentage

[quiet basin]

Any tips on finding scripts or grims.. do they appear on the HUD or make a noise?

Also, Death to the Xeno..

[warped flint]

anyone having problems logging in rn?

nvm

[manic dirge]

any cheese for 'untouchable'?

hate a scratch from dog ruining my run

[fathom vessel]

both make noise, grims glow green

[grave cave]

shoot 10000 times and calculate it smh

[grave radish]

How are item levels for shops / drops determined? is there a range based on my current level? or does it do the vermintide thing where it's based on the highest item level you already have/ (basically am I free to not buy stuff until I find something good, or should I buy things if they're a significantly higher item level to make even higher items show up)

[warm violet]

The way I heard it it's based on your operative level and not inventory level. No promises though

[grave radish]

Especially with the new, shop-based gearing system I hope it's based on operative level

[spare tangle]

Are the heresy missions bugged?

Because it seems like all the mission are acting like they are on high intensity?

[echo kiln]

People say heresy is bugged like that, yeah.

[fiery vigil]

On damnation, intensity modifiers are sometimes bugged too

Sometimes high intensity doesn't apply, sometimes it applies twice and you get base + high + high unit budgets added together for an experience that causes so much shit to spawn constantly that enemies are constantly standing in place while the server pisses and shits itself

idk if low works the same way or nah

normal heresy definitely exists currently but I have no idea how often high is accidentally applied

[echo kiln]

That explains why my heresy experience has been so uneven

[brittle marsh]

Is +Stamina worth anything? Especially on a weapon you cant block with like a pistol or is it just a dead stat to have?

[edgy wedge]

i am crying

[edgy wedge]

personally I find it helpful but +1 stamina is half a bar of stamina; the game rounds it down and nullifies +1 if you don't have another +1 somewhere else

[upper quiver]

Why do you have to unlock weekly contracts by character

I just hit 30 but am two missions short and am baffled I can't work towards them on a new operative

[brittle marsh]

Individual challenge progress per character

[echo kiln]

To increase the **g r i n d **

[brittle marsh]

Something I hope gets changed at some point but yeah doubt it

[upper quiver]

Some lockouts make sense

Contracts do not

[edgy wedge]

oh yeah baby I love doing all 5 weeklies every week on all 4 of my characters

[echo kiln]

No life no job no wife just GRIND

[edgy wedge]

FACTS

[keen wedge]

2nd time melk's bug has stolen my time, but at least i checked after this run

so no big loss

[sly glacier]

Hello people - is this the right chat to ask is someone is willing to help me with an achievement?

[keen wedge]

you want the LFG channels

[echo kiln]

For advice, yes.
For players: #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[sly glacier]

No - not advice

I know what i need to do

But i can't do it solo

I need at least 1 cooperating team member

[echo kiln]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[sly glacier]

Ok thanks

[terse pond]

anybody else had issues with flawless execution tracking?

i want to get flawless execution 2 because its the last steam achievement i dont have

[echo kiln]

Not me, but others have reported hit detection issues in the game

[terse pond]

the achievement for it is complete 10 missions in a row without being downed on malice or higher

[echo kiln]

Ohh, the not being downed one. Sorry, confused it with another

[terse pond]

happens

[lone flower]

Hey, is the time for the todays update known?

[echo kiln]

Community Update (news) is guaranteed Dec 14. Aqshy was writing it as of around <t:1670998500:t> or so.

Patch is nonspecific time this week

[lone flower]

07:15 UTC?

[echo kiln]

That's a dynamic timestamp. Shows your local time

[lone flower]

;= nice

[echo kiln]

https://r.3v.fi/discord-timestamps/

[lone flower]

so the update comes at any time but on 14th of dec

[echo kiln]

It may come today, tomorrow, or Friday. We don't know. Hence, nonspecific

[lone flower]

Okay, but on Steam the Community-Update is announced for dec 14th

[echo kiln]

That's not the patch

[lone flower]

I wrote Update, not patch 😉

[echo kiln]

The Update is coming today, Dec 14. That's what I said in my first response

[lone flower]

So can you tell me the difference between Update and Patch?

[echo kiln]

The Community Update is news about the next steps, same as all the others. Community Update (news)

The patch is software that goes to your computer and changes your game.

[lone flower]

Okay, but on the steam news, the Community-Update was announced with informations for the dec 14th, so that means we are getting just more infos about the changes today?

[keen wedge]

with luck, a date for the patch will be in the info today

maybe info on future plans

bugfixes would be lovely

[terse pond]

i looked into it a little and i saw a support post about how joining midway does not count for the penance, so i think disconnecting may cause it issues with tracking

[echo kiln]

No. We already got info about this patch last week and will get more in the patch notes. This Update is about the future, as I stated.

[terse pond]

and i dc a decent bit

[proven escarp]

Thoughts for ogryn?

[echo kiln]

Curio chance is garbage. The rest is pretty good.

[ornate compass]

Health is going to be more important on an ogryn. An additional 60 HP is going to be more effective than 20 Toughness.

I really wouldn’t use that trinket if I had a 18% HP trinket available.

[proven escarp]

Isnt it like VT2 where curio hardest to get or?

[echo kiln]

They come up pretty often, in my experience

[proven escarp]

See this is what im curious about, though. The 60 HP is a flat hp, t he 20 toughness regens with a lot of weapon perks we get (on chain, on elite kill etc) and it regens. So im just askin

[glossy charm]

shows up only 5 times in the last 3 days, over the course of about 15 hours, each time, no secondary objective and can't reroll it
cause that's not annoying at all 🙄

[spare tangle]

ETA on when they are going to fix endless special spawns on heresy?

its kinda unplayable atm lol

I started counting the specials as they spawned we got 6 trappers in a row followed by 8 mutants then 4 flamers then 4 more trappers then 2 more mutants and a boss then 4 dogs with 2 trappers and we wiped

pretty sure thats not suppose to happen within the time of 10mins

or less even

[hard goblet]

#📢news-bulletin We're getting the same communications from Fatshark that everyone else is.

If they haven't said anything, then they haven't said anything.

[spare tangle]

Bummer

[quartz root]

so i didn't buy the game yet i have few question before i decide

can i ask few question here?

[echo kiln]

Go for it

[quartz root]

i heard the game is great and all but there also criticism

1. is the game repetitive?
2. is tech problem fixed?

[echo kiln]

Tech problems not fixed yet. Much, much better now, slated to only get better.

Game's a little repetitive, but that's inherent to the genre. The problem is they decoupled item rewards from the gameplay and so fucked up their incentivization loop. Instead, the items are timegated. It's stupid and everyone is mad.

Map level combat and gameplay is 10/10

[quartz root]

i

thanks you

i'll buy it around next summer i want those get fixed first

[echo kiln]

You could probably even happily buy in February or March, but next summer's a solid bet.

[slow fog]

I'm away until new years basically and I'm hoping the post 30 experience is a bit more fleshed out by then. I hit 30 on all 4 characters not long before I left

[terse pond]

how exactly are you supposed to slide-spam optimally? do you need to wait for your sprint to accelerate?

and how much of the slide do you let go through

[viral vale]

you need to raise the finger from shift when u need stam (at the end of the slide) and lmb > slide again

[hushed wave]

I'm in that fun spot where Uprising is too easy but Malice is too hard.

[untold phoenix]

Is it truly that Malice is too hard or are the randoms you play with just bad?

[hushed wave]

A bit of both, probably.

[untold phoenix]

Fair

[viral vale]

the skill/lvl/weapons matter since Malice 😄 lvl 15 is like asking for a bit carry 😄

[untold phoenix]

You can play Malice at lvl 4 if you feel like it, hell, I played Heresy on lvl 8 because why not? Jut make sure to find at least one reliable person to play with you if you want to attempt something like that

[viral vale]

not to play, to carry you. just because you can enter it doesnt mean you will do significant dmg and have higher resists

[hushed wave]

I should probably just play malice Full Time and not worry about the inevitable losses.

[viral vale]

what losses? 20 mins wipe for 1000 exp?

when u can do 20 mins 2000 exp 😄

[untold phoenix]

You can reliably play Malice on sub lvl 10 without needing to be carried

[hushed wave]

I'm max level so I don't really worry about exp

[untold phoenix]

Just don't play like a buffoon

[twin swallow]

For the Ogyrn shield, which of the level 5 feats is the most useful?

[untold phoenix]

In that case you should play Malice to up your skill a bit

[echo kiln]

Given player skill, Malice went fine at level 5.
That said, there's no shame in not having the skill. It's not a personal failing.

[untold phoenix]

Then eventually move on to Heresy

it's a big jump in diff between Malice and Heresy though

[echo kiln]

Especially with the High Intensity glitch

[hushed wave]

I can clear Uprising without healing. But Malice is a different story.

[viral vale]

its not about failing at lvl 5, its about creating a scenario where you will wipe the party due to low dmg/low resists and ruin other's experience.

and just because 1 can do it, it doesnt mean all can do it.

and no offense to any1. it is what it is. higher chance of wipe with 1-10 in party. 2 low lvl players = 90% fail chance

[echo kiln]

If you're max level with gear, you have every tool you need to just roll over Malice. Keep practicing.

[hushed wave]

More Malice!

[thin hinge]

Probably the same feat as every weapon : Double bull rush distance + bump big guys

[hushed wave]

Since I've maxed Psyker & Zealot I should try Malice on my Veteran. They're nearly 20 so it should go TOO badly.

[echo kiln]

I was talking to Luna and Nagash. Sorry

[thin hinge]

NP ^^

[hushed wave]

I love it when a player unloads his guns into weak enemies then starts calling "need ammo".

[flint stone]

How do you play with someone on gamepass?

[echo kiln]

That's the neat thing: you don't right now. Maybe later.

[hushed wave]

I wonder how likely is it Fatshark will bother with gamepass crossplay...

[echo kiln]

I suspect they will eventually. Playerbase silos are bad long-term and increase server costs.

[hushed wave]

Yea. I never used game pass, but a bigger player pool can't hurt.

[rapid owl]

does generic corruption resistance count towards corruption resistance for grimoires?

[hushed wave]

It used to in VT2, so one would assume it does here. Not tested it though.

[quick remnant]

There wasn't any corruption in VT2 apart from Grims though , i think

[hushed wave]

True. Didn't think of that.

And it also didn't tick over time.

[coarse sleet]

I just saw a Heresy Investigation map pop up on mission board for 10 seconds, then it disappeared when I looked again

It was a brand new mission too, wtf

[hushed wave]

Very sus

[green hound]

flash mission, it's real 🙆🏽‍♂️

[brazen stump]

what's the upper limit for ratings on weapons white-green-blue?

[cold moon]

Common to rare: White/Gray - Green - Blue - Purple - Orange - Red (in the future probably)

[hot frigate]

scamatorium is deciding to be kind today i guess

too bad i can't afford anything

[brazen stump]

meant rating; the numbers that denotes 'item quality'

this thing

[cold moon]

Ah, then I don't know except max rating is somewhere around 530-550 when you reach orange-tier rarity.

[viral vale]

520 should be max atm

[hushed wave]

I stopped intentionally doing weekly chores...
If they complete, they complete. Otherwise it feels like a Job

[brazen stump]

need a baseline for decision when buying whites/greens

[viral vale]

for min max 370-380, otherwise 350+

on white

[round trail]

if i create a new character with a class that i already maxed out, do cosmetics i got for that class carry over?

[keen veldt]

doubt it with FS

[viral vale]

try and delete the class if u dont like

[regal olive]

Anyone knows the title of the horde music in enclavum baross?

[brittle vessel]

guys i need help lvl 4 mission

[cold moon]

The cosmetics from penances should stay because the score gained from those penances are added to your overall penance score when you achieved them. Uncertain about cosmetics from the Armory paid with Ordo.

[viral vale]

https://youtu.be/olqaqM21Dro?t=1320 ?

[regal olive]

Not that unfortunately, currently looking for it on spotify playlist myself, i dont even think they included it because baross is a newer map or im just deaf

[fossil basin]

are weapon skins shared between characters? what about normal gears and equipments?

[viral vale]

just Account Achievement + DLC for skins and character progression

[fossil basin]

so the MTX in-game isnt shared too?

[viral vale]

diff cosmetics, cant be shared.

[regal olive]

@viral vale nvm i found it, it's called Unrest in Throneside.

[mental timber]

ok someone tell me how the krak i can do these 2 pennances on preacher (untill il ask again for the other 3 classes later on)
Flesh wound and the one where i need to regain all my health back in 5 seconds with Revenant

[fossil basin]

so you can buy a zealot skin on your commando by accident. then your zealot char cant wear that skin you paid for?

[untold phoenix]

What? no

[cold moon]

No, Zealot can wear it. You have to switch to Zealot from Veteran.

[untold phoenix]

If you buy a Zealot skin the zealot can wear it

[fossil basin]

what about weapon skins you buy from the armory?

[untold phoenix]

they stay on the character that buys them

Anything bought in the "cash shop" is account wide

[viral vale]

ty o/

[untold phoenix]

anything bought in the armoury is character-locked

[brazen stump]

for clarity, specialists are the ones that spawn in with audio cues, and elites are the ogryns, maulers, and ragers?

[hollow flare]

the highest possible rating you can get on a white is 380, each point of rating in the modifier section counts as 1 point of percentage on the stat bars, after that the only thing that upgrading (changing colour) does is add perks and blessings which have their own rating which then gets added to the white items base rating to create the overall rating of the item

[brazen stump]

alright, cheers

[hollow flare]

be careful when you buy weapon skins btw ... as of right now you can buy skins you already own a 2nd time, which means throwing money into the warp. they really need to make skins you already own disappear from the shop

[fossil basin]

yeah kinda made a mistake of buying that red chainsaw sword skin and turns out im using a heavy chainsaw sword one and idk the difference. xD

its 20k gold too

[hollow flare]

to be fair dockets are pretty easy to come by though

[fossil basin]

dockets are the money?

20k is like 5+ missions xD

[hollow flare]

yeah the base currency

[patent sapphire]

it’s like one heresy mission

or 2 malice

[dark sphinx]

gameplay is great, i absolutely love paying 40 bucks just to stare at a screen

[untold phoenix]

cope

[dark sphinx]

its been only 45 minutes

[topaz lark]

I have never seen a queue after launch day

[dark sphinx]

i will make sure to ALT F4 at 1h55minutes, so i can refund this

[untold phoenix]

Have you tried restarting it?

[topaz lark]

yeah, queue is really strange

[dark sphinx]

tried restarting the game, my pc, tried clearing appdata

tried changing setting is NVIDIA

checked for drivers

[topaz lark]

im intrigued enough to try to launch it for myself 🤔

[untold phoenix]

Well report it on the forum cause I've never heard of this before

[dark sphinx]

its a known issue

its been around since beta

i found LOTS of forum posts

around 50k

and a reddit megathread

if 50k people bother signing up on the forum just to say its happening to them as well, imagine what the actual number was / is

[topaz lark]

Im in after ~30 seconds

[dark sphinx]

very happy for you

[topaz lark]

you on steam?

[dark sphinx]

looks like im refunding

[cold moon]

The queue situation was happening a lot around launch day cause everyone and their grandma wanted in. You sure most of those posts were not from the week of 30 November?

@dark sphinx

[dark sphinx]

some were 25days old, correct

some were a week old

some were days

[topaz lark]

I've heard some people get stuck loading in, but queue is something new

[dark sphinx]

most were 25days old however

[topaz lark]

either way, game's unstable, so refund is a reasonable reaction

[cold moon]

Unfinished if it were me

[topaz lark]

potato potato

[dark sphinx]

i mean i had my doubts about buying this game, since i know what a buggy hell of a mess it is , how many promised features are still "in developement" and not ready despite the game being released, the predatory bullshit FOMO RNG shops however were released perfectly and working nonstop

just a shame what they did with a Warhammer game

[topaz lark]

ironically, shop was also a bit broken on launch

but anyway dont forget to leave a review

[dark sphinx]

idk why people still bother paying full price for half-assed rushed games that need half a year or a year to actually be playable and decently fixed

[brittle vessel]

xboxgamepass

opie

[dark sphinx]

darktide was gonna be the exception, but looks like ill also buy this on sale for 50% off in about 4 months

[dark sphinx]

id like to play games longer than a month

[brittle vessel]

its still worthy

since i have a time to play

[dark sphinx]

i got all the games i want, i dont need gamepass, it either has nothing im interested in, or only stuff i already own

my steam library is roughly 2000-2500 bucks

but i actually only spent a fraction of that

[ocean raft]

😄

[dark sphinx]

its been 60minutes now

[brittle vessel]

dont complain about the money its worthy af for this game

best game i've ever played

in years

[dark sphinx]

mhm

[dull carbon]

Which enemies count as infested?

[brittle vessel]

LOL uninstall and reinstall maybe

[dark sphinx]

you should maybe play more than just CoD and darktide

if thats the best game you played in years

[brittle vessel]

dont cri

because ur in que for 1 hour

do somethin about it

LOL

get some tech lessons

or there is something called youtube

LOL

[topaz lark]

[brittle vessel]

imagine waiting a screen for 1 hour and getting mad about it

[dark sphinx]

elden ring, hades, total war : warhammer 3 , path of exile, pathfinder: wrath of the righteous , age of empires 4, baldurs gate 3

those are good games

[brittle vessel]

this one also good af

do somethin about it and play

if u can

and talk about the game after

[patent sapphire]

isn’t baldurs gate just the prologue or something

[brittle vessel]

imagine the guy didnt even login the game and complain about the game

[dark sphinx]

BG3 is only 80% of act 1 cause its early access, correct

[brittle vessel]

how its so bad bla bla

[dark sphinx]

however thats 60h of content alone

[patent sapphire]

i mean if the game wouldn’t let me log in i wouldn’t have a high opinion of it

[dark sphinx]

ive also seen reviews, checked the forums, checked the "known issues" list, and its frightening how people still defend this mess

but i guess blind fanboyism wont die out any time soon

[patent sapphire]

i’ve had fun with it

[dark sphinx]

i love warhammer lore to death

[topaz lark]

there is definitely something fucked up on the game's side, not much one can do besides trying again and again

[dark sphinx]

but i know a rushed and buggy game when i see it

the gameplay loop might be fun, but its buggy af , its repetetive at its core and the cash shop is predatory and FOMO inducing , its baffling

[patent sapphire]

i think people blow things out of proportion, the game obv has issues but i’ve got nearly 100 fun hours out of it between all the betas and release

im slowing down on it but i’ll come back when more content

[topaz lark]

if you are fine with fantasy, I would heavily recommend Vermintide 2, its essentially the same game but actually finished

[dark sphinx]

also , speaking of Baldurs gate 3 being in Early Access

ive put 200h into it

and im still having a blast

despite it only being Act 1

definately recommend it

[brittle vessel]

very similar games darktide and baldurs gate 3

[dark sphinx]

not similar at all

[brittle vessel]

LOL

[dark sphinx]

dont be so butthurt

[brittle vessel]

XDDD

[dark sphinx]

hit me up once you've grown up

[brittle vessel]

okay cri baby man

[topaz lark]

@dark sphinx are you on a ipv6 network perchance?

[dark sphinx]

your virginity is showing @brittle vessel

[dark sphinx]

ye

[brittle vessel]

all you do is cri

[patent sapphire]

lmao

yeah

[topaz lark]

that is likely your problem

[patent sapphire]

their networking is fucked

[topaz lark]

game doesnt support ipv6

[patent sapphire]

you will need a vpn until they fix it

[topaz lark]

because its clearly 2005 right now

[dark sphinx]

no way

[topaz lark]

and are still not out of ipv4 space

[dark sphinx]

seriously ?

[topaz lark]

yes

[dark sphinx]

OMFG

ahhahahahahahahahaha

[topaz lark]

marked as known issue since release

[dark sphinx]

that has to be a joke

no fuckin way

[topaz lark]

thats fatshark for you

[brittle vessel]

the game is so bad because i cant playyyyy

LOL

[topaz lark]

you are not helpful, go away

[dark sphinx]

nonono you must learn to read

[patent sapphire]

if you search ipv6 you’ll see

[dark sphinx]

the game has lots of issues, no matter if i can play or not

[brittle vessel]

the game is so fookin bad i stared at the login screen for 1 hour

LOLLL

[topaz lark]

you have to essentially read all patchnotes to know this

(like me)

[untold phoenix]

We who do not read all the patch notes salute you

[dark sphinx]

@brittle vessel look mate, idk what you are getting out of this, but literally nobody cares
keep "trolling" , doesnt bother anyone, pretty sure once you grow up you'll understand that this type of "trying to trigger people" is easily ignored and provokes no reaction from anyone anymore

i do however, hope you are mentally stable and healthy, have a nice day mate

[brittle vessel]

i didnt even read

its so long

[dark sphinx]

i found the ogryn

[topaz lark]

my dude, please stop, its so cringe

or at least go to #general-chat

anyway, you either will have to use vpn, or refund @dark sphinx

not much else to do

[brittle vessel]

what the fk are u talkin about

[topaz lark]

I also find it hilarious that it shows you as if you are in a queue, but it will actually never end

[brittle vessel]

mind ur own business

[dark sphinx]

guess im refunding, shame i woulda loved to purge some heretics

[brittle vessel]

ur not a boss get over it LOL

[topaz lark]

game will hopefully be stable in 6 months to a year

[brittle vessel]

its stable and fantastico

im enjoying so far

[topaz lark]

"works on my machine" is not a useful input

[brittle vessel]

i dont care

its your problem

fix it

[topaz lark]

yet you continue to state it over and over again

seems an awful lot like caring too much

[fossil basin]

what class is the best mob clear

[topaz lark]

melee or ranged?

[patent sapphire]

zealot with flamer or ogryn with big knife

[topaz lark]

I personally like ogryn shield for cc

and flamer is a nobrainer

be it on zelot or psyker

[brittle vessel]

power sword on veteran op

[fossil basin]

why does my flamer put out like 1 circle of fire per click but i see in youtube vids its continously breathing out fire

[brittle vessel]

and the nades

[patent sapphire]

watching a lot of diff 5 ogryn streamers they don’t seem to like shield at all

idk what build they run but i usually see the knife or the shovel for its special attack

[untold phoenix]

Hold right mouse

[topaz lark]

you need to hold right mouse button first

[rigid wasp]

How much damage does ogryn shield set does?, i couldnt kill a the two handed axe dreg for the life of me

[cold moon]

Secondary action is continuous fire

[fossil basin]

also whats the difference in chainsword and a heavy chainsword?

[untold phoenix]

One is good one is less so

[patent sapphire]

2h chainsword is zealot exclusive and has a different moveset from the 1h

[fossil basin]

i assumed chainsword is just 1 hand and you can put shield but i guess not

[untold phoenix]

Only the ogryn has a shield so far

[topaz lark]

dont hit them in the head

[hard bluff]

How do I know what to stack for my class on curios? Toughness or Health %?

[patent sapphire]

1h chainsword is probably vets second best melee option behind power sword but the axe has a strong argument too

[quick remnant]

Shielded weapon would be their own weapon kit, but chainsword is available on both Vet and Psyker, and you have quite good mobility

[mystic rapids]

Which class are you?

[nova cipher]

depends on the class

[rigid wasp]

Don't know how to aim with it so I just try to at least aim at the centre

[hard bluff]

Well I want to build on all classes 😦

[mystic rapids]

They all differ

[little coyote]

get toughness past 100 to not get bleedthrough when hit but other than that mostly health I suppose. Zealot has good synergy with toughness stacking

[hard bluff]

So Ogryn is Health, Zealot is Toughness right?

[mystic rapids]

I buff my Zealot with a lot of toughness because his is low to begin with, Veteran I would buff health

[hard bluff]

and Psyker?

[nova cipher]

you want wounds

[little coyote]

first some toughness then either or

[topaz lark]

I believe bleedthrough works in % of total toughness

[mystic rapids]

I haven't toiled with psyker

[little coyote]

yes and if you're past 100 you won't get bleedthough

[nova cipher]

and toughness or health

[patent sapphire]

for ogryn get health and gunner damage resistance

[hard bluff]

I thought Oggy stacks Health? 🤔

[wheat jewel]

I make sure I have 3 wounds on level 4 missions on psyker

[patent sapphire]

meant health

[topaz lark]

I recommend trying out your weapons in meatgrinder and see how much damage you do to different enemies

health or toughness is mostly a preference thing so far

more toughness allows you to take less damage to health

more health is .. more health

health is better against grimores

[hard bluff]

Really? 🤔

[wheat jewel]

Toughness on zealot because you can get it back on your ult, however I can see wanting health for different builds

[dull carbon]

What counts as infested for enemies?

[hard bluff]

Just trying to minmax for Damnation

[patent sapphire]

i think ogryn especially wants health because of how his feats work and the massive starting health pool meaning you get more bang for your buck

[hard bluff]

Yeah this is what people are saying

[patent sapphire]

the little dudes who drop maggots when you hit them

[mystic rapids]

This is exactly the point, Health and toughness is a preference at lower levels. You do need to focus build for damnation

[little coyote]

I'd still have at least one curio for toughness just to you can tank that one hit that you didn't see or hear

[dark sphinx]

@patent sapphire @topaz lark sadly refunded and left a review about the IVP6 , cash shop, known issues , etc
thanks for your help though, appreciate it

you 2 make sure to have a great day , wish you a great xmas and a happy new year !

[topaz lark]

see you in a year 👍

[dark sphinx]

hopefully, lol

[patent sapphire]

hopefully they fix it lol, sorry it didn’t work

[dark sphinx]

not your fault ,no need to be sorry

anyways, im out, have fun boys

[hard bluff]

Health is always better.

There isn't much difference between having 100 or 200 toughness, seeing how most of the time you use toughness to block a hit or two and then regenerate back up by getting kills or being in coherency range. And when your toughness gets depleted, it's always a case of not being able to regen enough toughness and not a matter of not having enough toughness to begin with.

Health on the other hand is limited and can only be restored by using a health-pack or a medicea station. Health can also be temporarily be reduced by corruption (from being downed, grimoires, pox-bursters, etc) until you reach a medicea station. You will take chip damage on your health because damage will bleed through your toughness unless you're at 100%. All this makes having a larger health pool much more valuable than having a larger toughness pool.

^^ what do you guys think of this from Reddit?

[patent sapphire]

i think this is mostly correct, i started stacking toughness on my vet because it’s his natural strength

but now that i’ve reached 30 i pop volley fire and chain it for the whole firefight which gives me 4x effective toughness against range

which means i really just should be stacking health and gunner resistance to have even more effective toughness

[little coyote]

yeah I agree health is mostly the better one but you will really benefit from having that slight boost to your toughness so you can tank a hit without any health loss

[hard bluff]

Thing is on Damnation does it make any difference? The mobs all hit hard

[mystic rapids]

I don't agree with that, if you don't have a lot of toughness your health pool means nothing. It will disappear in no time

[little coyote]

for the chaff, yeah

[mystic rapids]

You need that damage reduction

I never worry about low health when I have full toughness but I always worry about my health when my toughness is broken.

[patent sapphire]

im pretty sure the characters that thrive in melee all have ways to keep their toughness topped up

vet should be popping elites to get 50 per kill at range

psyker idk just screwed?

[little coyote]

psyker getting 30% per warp kill is very good

just blast away with voidstaff into the horde and you're good on toughness

haven't done damnation with him yet though

I'll probably need a better staff for it

[patent sapphire]

right now i’m running two 17% toughness curios and one wound curio

i might experiment with two health curios

i’ve got a couple 20%

[mystic rapids]

I think my zealot has +20% health +17% toughness and +2 stamina curios

[patent sapphire]

which would put me at either 210 or 216 depending on additive or multiplicative

[mystic rapids]

switched out the last one from a +14% toughness

[turbid dock]

It's 10%

[patent sapphire]

either way a wound curio feels mandatory on heresy+

[little coyote]

oh sorry, was the warp charge one 30?

[patent sapphire]

at least for me

[turbid dock]

yea 30% over 5 seconds on warpcharge gain

[little coyote]

still, even 10% per kill is pretty good when you can delete hordes

[turbid dock]

doesnt stack

[little coyote]

yeah the warp charge one isn't great

[turbid dock]

its only good on the voidstaff and not much else

[mystic rapids]

Definitely helpful, especially if hunting grims

[turbid dock]

wounds dont affect grim corruption

[mystic rapids]

No

but you have more lives to get downed with

so less chance of losing it

They despawn.

[high dove]

mandator is a big word, i wouldnt go that far

definitely had enough damnation runs that didnt get downed twice between stations i'd consider it optional

[mystic rapids]

Yeah it's optional, just potentially useful

[patent sapphire]

i guess if you’re skilled enough it doesn’t matter

[cedar mountain]

I made a smol video on how to do a map fast for the (complete 25 missions) weekly , hope this helps. https://youtu.be/cNtGQZItzAI

[patent sapphire]

but playing with pugs im not skilled enough to foresee all the random bullshit on damnation

i had one last night where we picked up 2 grims

[mystic rapids]

I think I'll have to do a video on Curios/health and toughness

[hard bluff]

Did you finish the mission...? 😯

[patent sapphire]

if you don’t take any wounds and someone picks up a grim then you’re down to your last wound

[patent sapphire]

somehow yes but we had like 4 deaths and didn’t make it out with any of the grims

[mystic rapids]

One way you can test is just equip all of your health curios, run into a damnation horde, see how long you survive without defending and then try the toughness buffs

[mystic rapids]

This is the way.

Back to work for me anywho, I'll leave this here in case anyone fancies a watch, happy heretic slaying! https://youtu.be/Onep3S805KA

[hushed wave]

I feel like wound curios might be best for me.

[brittle vessel]

is there a way to enable toggle ads

[brisk olive]

Is sliding only able to dodge ranged attacks? I've finally gotten around to playing Zealot and have come to love sliding up to enemies as they shoot over my head before I proceed to remove their skulls via their buttholes.

About ~30% of the time, I get shot in the face during this maneuver, which I assume is a latency issue. However, much more frequently than getting shot, I seem to find myself hacked by trash mobs I'm passing by as I slide up to juicer targets.

[hushed wave]

Ranged enemy are my worst enemy

[untold phoenix]

Should be in gameplay settings if there is

[mystic rapids]

I think the moral is that you can't ignore the 'trash' mobs. You can turn a dodge into a slide so maybe that might help if you time it right with the incoming attack from the "trash" mob.

[brittle vessel]

couldnt find

[untold phoenix]

And you checked all other settings as well?

[brittle vessel]

yeah

[untold phoenix]

Then it probably doesn't exist

[hushed wave]

I don't like the word trash but I can't think of a better name for the minor enemies

[brittle vessel]

the monsters are kinda cute in this game not scary at all

[mystic rapids]

Infantry, mobs, grunts, heretics, lil' dudes Also, trash is fine 😛

[mystic rapids]

Yeah, Beast of nurgle is just a big cuddly love slug

[ocean flower]

Mooks, if you browse TVTropes from time to time

[ocean flower]

Seer psyker actually calls out that it’s just trying to play, it’s great

[brisk olive]

Sorry, I thought "trash" was the going term for the low level mooks that make up the bulk of any group, maybe I'm misusing that.
Got it. I was attempting to live the fantasy of sliding in out of nowhere, assassinating the officer, then killing off the lackeys in the resulting confusion. But I will dutifully hack my way to the core from the outside as is proper. Thanks for the response!

[ocean flower]

Eh trash mobs is a proper terminology for em

You just can’t ignore em is all

[brisk olive]

got it

[ocean flower]

The only exception is if you can move really fast, like with zealot’s F, but even then you want to chew your way back to the team

[brisk olive]

Right, ok. That makes sense

[hushed wave]

On my 3rd character now... Blastin with a XII Lasgunne.

[brisk olive]

love the XII!

[hushed wave]

And axe. Can't forget the axe

[brisk olive]

MkV?

[hushed wave]

Can't remember what Mk... Currently at work.

[mystic rapids]

I have no doubt that in time, when your blade is worn thin and your knees calloused from sliding on cold steel and blood soaked stone that you will slide to the Bulwark with grace and lop his top off with ease.

[brisk olive]

I'm liking axes, still have to test them all out. So far the chonky mk V combat axe is my murder buddy

[mystic rapids]

Good lad. I use that beast on my Zealot

Heavy attack is a beast

[hushed wave]

I always go Tac Axe. But I hear Power Sword is the BIS currently. Haha.

[outer bloom]

I have been waiting 3 goddamn days for a shotgun to spawn in the damn shop

Gameplay

engagement

quality

[brisk olive]

Indeed. Bloody Knees for the Emperor and Skulls for the Golden throne. The Mechanicus can outfit me with ceramite knee caps in time!

[mystic rapids]

Yeah it hurts, I got a new stubby after 2 weeks and it had crappy perks

[outer bloom]

oh hey a shotgun

[mystic rapids]

We need this crafting system to be good but I'm a bit worried

[outer bloom]

its shit but I just need any shotgun to try for the vet penance the next time heresy reduced hordes pops up

[umbral glade]

might as well just cheese it at this point

[outer bloom]

how do you cheese it?

[umbral glade]

the 100% one rite

[lofty marsh]

Anyone know what time patch is today?

[brisk olive]

Thats what I did mine with too! I regennned too much ammo using the bolter to knock it out

[outer bloom]

I mean I could really use that one too

[hushed wave]

I have up on penances long ago. The cosmetics don't really appeal to me anyway

[outer bloom]

I need completion (and hats)

[umbral glade]

they are either on over time or its not today

id say just go sleep

[lofty marsh]

Nooooooo

fr?

[outer bloom]

any decent way to cheese the "take no damage" one?

or is it just bloody luck

[umbral glade]

just pull the plug on extraction

[outer bloom]

pull the plug?

[umbral glade]

ppl told me it no work anymore but i had a guy that did it like, yesterday

[outer bloom]

oh yeah that actually makes sense.

stupid but it works I guess.

[umbral glade]

system is stupid

no need to limit your self

[outer bloom]

I mean honestly I dont respect the system so why shouldnt I cheese it

[mystic rapids]

My murder buddy

[outer bloom]

the zealot and psyker lvl 1 penances are just straight up bloody luck

[brisk olive]

That's the one I'm struggling on too. Get three teammates to watch your booty or Alt+F4 near the end of the match and reconnect before it ends then avoid getting hit in that small window is the cheese method.

I'm considering that because there is always some random back smack during a session

[hushed wave]

I think Shotgun and XII Lasgun are my goto guns.

[mystic rapids]

Also bagged this one last night, 80% pen, tasty

[outer bloom]

I have to say i like the mkVIIa recon las better than the mk 12

[brisk olive]

Wow, those are both beauties!

[hushed wave]

I don't like rapid fire so Recon are off the table for me.

[hard bluff]

What difficulty is best to run to farm mats? (balance in time and difficulty)

[mystic rapids]

Yeah I think the purple one is better but I got it on my last run last night and haven't tried her yet