gameplay-help

[split shore]

I also seem to be missing the lvl 30 inquisitorial rosette thingy, I suppose it's an accessory, I have none

[wet bloom]

Is there any way to tell which missions I need to do for the "complete all missiong types for this class"?

[stray sand]

Hi people, I bought skins in the store, and why is it not displayed in the game?

[untold phoenix]

All mission types, just do one of each and you'll find which one you don't have eventually, though one or two might be gone for the moment

[soft nacelle]

Any tips on completing the Shocking Stuff penance for the zealot?

[tired crown]

They won't be available until launch in Nov 30th

[tired crown]

You should be able to find them under penances, I think under the class sub section? Not in game so I can't check.

[stray sand]

Thank you

[tired crown]

Open your inventory, select an equipped weapon and press C to customize it. The rosette will be under the trinket looking menu, top left corner.

[drowsy stirrup]

what are scabs and what are dregs?

[wild flame]

When is this new update coming out? wasn't one coming out today?

[arctic plover]

yeah probably around 10-11am PST. I was waiting for the mission rotation like it usually does around 4-6am but it just didnt do anything for the first time and its had the same missions.

[ocean flax]

would anyone be willing to help me line up 20 enemies to knock off on chasm?

[stuck ridge]

oooooh neat haha

[tired crown]

I think scabs are the mostly unarmored guys wearing yellow, dregs are the traitor guardsmen

[arctic plover]

Im a little annoyed but hey, I had only assumed thats when they start to switch since Ive been on at this time for like 5 days on this and its always switched.

[limpid ice]

scabs = zombies and dregs are traitors (the ones in black armor)

[ember wave]

How often should I be using the brain burst thing as psyker? Should I just be using it on special enemies and not regular pox walkers n stuff? Or should I try and make sure I always have a percentage

[wild flame]

thanks homie

[tired crown]

Right? Took me forever to find that, I was so excited when I got my inquisitorial keychain.

[tired crown]

For malice and easier you want to use it to kill most specials since it 1shots them. Using it on low level enemies to keep your buffs stacked is good but I never found it necessary

[stuck ridge]

It's actually the other way around @drowsy stirrup

[ember wave]

Thanks! Which one is malice?

[tired crown]

Thanks. I knew it was something like that, my vet ability highlights scab gunners which are the yellow dudes.

[tired crown]

Difficulty 3, anything bigger and brain burst falls off in terms of usefulness.

[stuck ridge]

WEIRD. I think it's a bug, because mine highlights both

[limpid ice]

so that would be 8/9pm EU TIME?

[tired crown]

Yours highlights the helmeted guys?! I am so full of envy right now. You suck!

[stuck ridge]

As long as they have a Gun they get highlighted for Counterfire, At least "On my PC" lmao

[tired crown]

Drown in my salty tears! That would be such a nice buff, lol. Just highlight all gunners damnit!

[stuck ridge]

"Worked in Dev, it's Ops' problem now"

[tired crown]

Yeah, that's fine. This is fine ^ ^

I'm leveling my ogryn now anyway, that's the bosses problem, sah

[rigid wasp]

is it normal to stand next to a psyker and have them not take care of horde enemies and leave your coherency because you're a gunner with camo expert equipped?

[rare grove]

Man the vet malice challenge is a pain any have tips

[stuck ridge]

Are you communicating with them? Usually surviving in DarkTide means moving, so people who aren't used to Vet may not realize you have Camo Expert.

Additionally, it depends on the Psyker. Not all Psykers are specialized for Horde Enemies

[ripe latch]

Something I was curious about: does the Psyker flame staff count as ‘soulblaze?’

[arctic plover]

@limpid ice i beleive so but im not familiar with your time zone breakdown. If thats the correct relation to your time then yes. Ive always seen disruprution/repair, etc come in and rotate around 4-6am pacific standard.

[rigid wasp]

well this specific one was appearing to use its brain burst without regard for their own health regardless if you're in proximity or not (using it as a max level psyker too on horde enemies)

[quasi trench]

No the flame staff is not soulblaze its just fire

[subtle urchin]

what are the best blessings for eviscerator?

[quasi trench]

@ripe latch

[burnt pendant]

What the small, matrix-esque green box next to a mission mean?

[stuck ridge]

Brain Burst doesn't in and of itself hurt you, but it also doesn't give its buff to anyone but the Psyker.

Now if they're bad at Perils Management, they're probably novice

[jagged vigil]

all sources I saw say that DoT from flamer staff is soulblaze

[quasi trench]

ok then post the sources

[honest ice]

man thunder hammer does some fat damage when you hit plague ogryn in the head with it

[rigid wasp]

So in the end I just played with a very selfish psyker that didn't care for enemies in front of it and in my back. It was a random though so no co-operation expected... in a co-op game

[quasi trench]

nvm im not gonna look at them but im pretty fairly confident flame staff is not soulblaze

[split breach]

Probably going for the penance to maintain stacks

[rigid wasp]

Is it on any difficulty?

[split breach]

Its malice+ but i think its bugged and only counts on hersey+

[jagged vigil]

Well, it is easy to check. I don't have Psyker at 30 lvl yet, but you just need to take flame staff, 2nd perk at 20lvl and kill bunch of mobs at meat grinder. If it gives Force charges then flamer DoT = soulblaze in terms of game mechanics

[tired crown]

It's just part of the background on the map ^ ^

[jagged vigil]

Yep, doesn't work on malice, got it on heresy.

[ripe latch]

Psyker feels odd cus I find it frustrating yet feel drawn to play it. Feels maybe the most feat dependent. Mostly just hoping we get a Biomancy Melee Psyker at some point.

[rapid ermine]

Low level psyker just simply feels like there is something missing. Like you are playing 1/4 of a character or something

Its really odd

[mighty gazelle]

What's the most useful weapon for a veteran to bring into heresy and damnation? I really like the MG XII to deal with lots of specialists from far away, and I never run out of ammo. But I've seen a lot of people prefer bolters or plasma guns for their ability to delete carapace armor.

[ripe latch]

The main thing is it feels like you are managing a resource that can kill you to break even in performance with other characters. Feats def help mind but its def… a bit clunky in implementation.

[stuck ridge]

It's Staves. Kinda makes sense, though, most classes don't really get their "good kit" to start with.

[ripe latch]

Sure but like

[vivid zealot]

depends on what you are trying to do. if you wanna focus on the tougher elites then plasma/bolt, if you want to focus on killing tons of shootas then bring a bolt/lasgun

[quasi trench]

psykers become so much more fun the higher level you are

probably applies to all classes tho

[ripe latch]

Yeah, it does its just

[vivid zealot]

if you wanna chunk bosses then use a plasma with the 50% more dmg lvl 30 feat

[ripe latch]

More striking with Psyker

[stuck ridge]

Yeah, though I have personally enjoyed Psyker at all levels. Then again, I was the person super happy to find out Plasma did infact blow you up if it overheated

[analog violet]

@ivory iron

[rapid ermine]

I imagine its kinda like zealot, where at start you are kinda sketchy and dont know what you can do. And as you gain levels and better gear you get to just bop and weave in and out of combat how the hell ever you feel like.

[split breach]

I feel the same way about psyker

[mighty gazelle]

If you had a vet on your team, which would you prefer they focused on?

[north wolf]

I mean.. if someone plays a psyker in my team, I don't even need or want them to ever use any of their weapons. it's cool if they do, but all they need to do for me is headpop specials. All day please. What gives with psykers in my team just... not popping?

[patent sapphire]

if you become good with the bolter you can take down specialists from very far away as well but the mg xii is very good so you wouldn’t be throwing if you chose it, your priority is just mainly killing the trash shooters with it and the ranged/unarmored specials, need to trust your team to help with armor

[ivory iron]

I'll try that out today because dealing with armored ogryns is getting kinda annoying

[quasi trench]

vets are just good at everything

[analog violet]

Cleaver - Rumbler

[hollow slate]

Gunners please! As azealot they are the bane of my existence

[ripe latch]

I feel, in terms of like gear and feat dependence for the ‘feel,’ its Psyker > Ogryn > Zealot > Veteran

[vivid zealot]

depends on the team really, if theres 2 vets then one should focus on ranged enemies and the other elites. if im the only vet on the team then i usually go bolter because its a good middle ground between dealing with ranged enemies and heavy elites

[silk willow]

Is this all crafted?

[ripe latch]

Not necessarily how GOOD they are, but the feel

[analog violet]

Three of them are drops - cleaver is crafted

[silk willow]

...DROPS?

[analog violet]

Yeah.

[silk willow]

the fuck

[analog violet]

I got three curio drops

[split breach]

I also just feel like psyker is behind the curve. Like special hunting? Ogryns can use good explosives and veterans just got way lower ttk. Horde melee is already on things like zealot and ogryn. The force staves can be good but they just get out performed. Force swords feel like worse chainswords and power swords

Idk but im also bad so lol

[quasi trench]

you can get the curio that gives you curios from drops yeah

[ripe latch]

I’m curious to see the rest of the unreleased weapons.

[quasi trench]

instead of weapons()

[analog violet]

Very useful when farming out mastercraft ones

[silk willow]

I did plenty t4, but only drop in this game higher than blue I had was on my ogryn alt, purple low level item.
95 hours in.

[analog violet]

Quickplay?

I've found a lot of drops on quickplay.

[silk willow]

quickplay increases amount of drops?

[mighty gazelle]

Yeah, my main concern is always if I am throwing by picking a las over heavier weapons, thank you

[analog violet]

I've never found a drop on a selected mission - only usually on quickplays

[onyx shuttle]

checked Melk and saw this, got no dockets

[vivid zealot]

you can do both ranged enemies and elites with a plasma but the boltgun does it better in terms of being all arounder. the plasma is more for focusing hard enemies like ogryns, bosses, etc.

[silk willow]

almost never did quickplay.

[median grail]

yo?

[patent sapphire]

good blessings low stats don’t feel too bad

[ripe latch]

But mostly, looking forward to future potential things like Crusader Zealot, Gun Lugger Ogryn, or Biomancy Psyker. Darktide thus far has made me pleased with what it is, warts and all, bit mostly hopeful about what it can be.

[analog violet]

@ivory iron IF you can. Try to get your cleaver like this.

[dull carbon]

Is there a writeup somewhere explaining the difference between different ripperguns?

[silk willow]

Yes, in their descriptions.

[stuck ridge]

Man I really want an Enginseer Class :)

[silk willow]

the highest Mk one is the most controllable.

[dull carbon]

Those are exceedingly vague

[ripe latch]

I’m not sure how to do a AdMech guy given setting, but it’d be neat.

[silk willow]

and afaik 2 ripperguns have their descriptions mixed up.

[analog violet]

Bias Opinion - I hate the ripper gun.

[ripe latch]

Its mag feels low for what it does

[old phoenix]

Is there an espionage mission yet?

[dull carbon]

I'm not a fan either but people swear by it.

[stuck ridge]

There's plenty of Machine God Adepts in Inquisitorial Service. I mean, it was a core class even in Dark Heresy

[dull carbon]

I prefer the stubber

[ivory iron]

Mines the butcher cleaver with +% elite damage, carapace damage I believe (might be different), then +power on multiple melee kill and the +150% cleave blessings. Kills everything. Just need to try out that bleed so I can handle carapace armor easier

[raw plover]

alright people, how do you rush 70 metres with the ogryn with bull rush?

[analog violet]

Bleed Ignores armor entirely.

It's really strong

[stuck ridge]

You could definitely be an "underperforming" agent of Hadron's

[north wolf]

On higher difficulties, other classes want to specialize in cleaning up large amounts of mobs, by then it is helpful to have a dedicated headpopper.

[ivory iron]

Yeah that seems best to use, already have to heavy attack carapace to damage it so may as well run a bleed build with it

[ripe latch]

Sure, but the plot is you’re a prisoner at first, core conceit. If I recall, Inquisition authority to do that to a Tech Priest would be shakey. But this is more a lore discussion.

[analog violet]

@ivory iron Look at each tick - this is on damnation difficulty hitting the shield

160 Damage per tick

[ivory iron]

That's ridiculous, you think bleeding is bugged/overtuned? Or working as intended?

[analog violet]

It changes depending on enemy.

[turbid dock]

just bleed doing bleed things to ogryns

[signal cipher]

Yee yee, I am really hoping they end up adding an Admech based class

[analog violet]

Crushers are more resistant to it. But you can SLAUGHTER ragers with this.

Full stacks on a mauler still does 30 damage per tick.

[stuck ridge]

Ehh..., it largely depends on who's there at the time and who controls the narrative. Though I get the concern. Personally, I think it would be cool to have Hadron be your superior rather than Zola.

[jolly quarry]

are those kill x amount of y weeklies shared? (not monstrosities but scabs/dregs)

[limpid ice]

yea

[weak kindle]

Bleed is only that strong on bullwarks though

[turbid dock]

and reapers

[analog violet]

And reapers.

[ivory iron]

Ok, yeah I'ma use that then because carapace enemies are literally the only thing I struggle with. Ogryn cleaver makes everything else far too easy with it's cleave so bleed is gonna be awesome to use. Thanks y'all

[weak kindle]

no, i caps at like 20dmg for reapers

[ripe latch]

If they do, it’d need to be a full sort of career expansion rather than just like a subclass.

[weak kindle]

or was it crushers? mb

[analog violet]

Nope.

[turbid dock]

no its also 160

[jolly quarry]

the bleed duration is just way too short for anyone but ogryns to properly use it, as zealot its near impossible to stack on your own

[turbid dock]

crusher are very resistant to bleed

[analog violet]

Damnation Difficulty

[weak kindle]

ye, sry I was confused with the names

[analog violet]

Crushers are resistant but 30 damage per tick while slugging them still adds up

[turbid dock]

no worries i keep calling crushers maulers as well lmao

[analog violet]

Remember - it's a very short tick rate.

[weak kindle]

true, it takes a while, but still pretty strong

[ivory iron]

How long does bleed last?

[analog violet]

5 seconds I believe?

But you can keep refreshing it

[turbid dock]

on heresy 4 heavies is enough to kill 1 reaper/bulwark

[analog violet]

It takes practice - but you will know someone is bleeding by the literal blood dripping off of them

[weak kindle]

on "+bleed stacks on non-weakspot hits" its refreshes itself indefinetely

[ebon fjord]

any of you know exactly when the serv are going down ? today or tomorow ? and what H ?

[limpid ice]

thats why im buying all the knifes and upgrading hoping to get th right bleed perk XD

[tired crown]

I've been doing the same with recon lasguns, lol

[mystic wyvern]

Possibly dumb question, but I notice sometimes when I tap the right click with the surge staff that it does an absurd amount of damage, and sometimes it basically does nothing at all. (This is with me not charging it up at all), is the damage variance just that high, or does holding down a button during the lighting zap increase the damage or something?

[turbid dock]

i think its better to wait for the full crafting suite to be out mats are precious

[mystic wyvern]

(I also notice sometimes the surge staff applies a dot, but im not sure if thats a bug or just a random chance proc thing)

[turbid dock]

sometimes you get crits

[mystic wyvern]

Are crits not indicated in yellow numbers?

[tired crown]

Holding the button down (charging) the secondary ability does make it do more damage but it's negligible with the surge staff.

[turbid dock]

yea yellow

[tired crown]

Do you have the brain burst on attack feat?

[mystic wyvern]

Ya im specifically referring to non-critical hits then, just white numbers

[fathom crag]

Did they fix the flamer bug not counting towards "firing a shot"

[turbid dock]

maybe its the auto brainburst

[tired crown]

I think so, yeah

[mystic wyvern]

No, sometimes it will instantly shred 5 enemies

And sometimes it will do 20% of their hp xD

[analog violet]

@ivory iron But this is true cleaver gaming

[limpid ice]

no

[dull carbon]

Don't, it's going to get nerfed, there's no chance it stays that way past launch

[turbid dock]

not related but sometimes i think you can condense the lightning dps by swapping weapons during the shock animation

[sour depot]

should i buy it?

[tired crown]

I just started my ogryn last night and I've got to say, I've spent so much time just slapping enemies.

[solemn parcel]

how do people play d4/d5 without shield as ogryn? is there just a shitload of hiding and shooting/waiting

[jagged olive]

game wont pick up my mic in-game, anyone know why?

[fathom crag]

I just played a malice with sword and flamer, didn't get the penance

[analog violet]

No - you get into the backline like a fat assassin and CAUSE HAVOC.

[turbid dock]

i think orange curios are a good buy regardless because you can reroll whatever is on it (eventually)

[rocky sierra]

Toughness is a pretty meh stat imo

[solemn parcel]

oh you take a flank route

[turbid dock]

having to upgrade curios from blue to purple to orange is a pain

[limpid ice]

zealot relies on bleed crit to use her ult

[raw plover]

how can one do the bull rush penance for ogryn? anyone done it yet?

[analog violet]

I remember one-time my friends were getting pinned by like 50 ranged and suddenly they saw me drop off the bridge and charge... and there was just RED

[limpid ice]

for cooldown

[solemn parcel]

what if there isnt one available like a big bridge with lots of shooter dudes

ah

[analog violet]

Find a path.

[mystic wyvern]

Oh interesting, I just tried this and you can completely skip the lightning animation and make the damage from the lighting happen instantly if you swap weapons after attacking with right click

[analog violet]

Forcing them into melee just ruins their whole existence.

[ivory iron]

Using your gun to clear out/thin out ranged enemies before going in and lots of sliding. Never felt I needed a shield on Heresy (4) difficulty especially not on malice difficulty

[turbid dock]

yea sometimes useful i guess

[limpid ice]

strange i did it yesterday

[solemn parcel]

just seems unnecessarily risky with the amount of gunners and the stunlock after toughness runs out

never used shield in malice either

[turbid dock]

optimal play seems to be sliding a hell of alot, back dodge into slide gives you so much distance

[solemn parcel]

hmm i definitely dont slide enough

[ivory iron]

Shield tbh feels like a huge crutch and I feel like it I used it often I'd develop very bad habits. It has its uses tho for sure, not trying to completely discredit it

[analog violet]

Slide Dodging as an ogryn is crazy strong

[limpid ice]

thoughness is for ranged builds in my opinion cause melee will chip health even though you have a shield

[analog violet]

With cleaver

[jagged vigil]

I started leveling Zealot after Psyker and I have to say that it is overall easier

[turbid dock]

toughness reduces chip damage

also you will get shot more by playing melee so toughness always good

[analog violet]

But if you want to be an effective assassin ogryn - get ABILITY cooldown. Seriously - you need that mobility and a short cooldown on your ult while people kill specials is a HUGE lifesaver in closing distance

[wet bloom]

I can see how many I did but not specifics unless im missing something

[limpid ice]

ranged attacks wont damage health but meleee will but just a little

[turbid dock]

just get enough to make it such that you dont get immediately toughness broken by 1 burst

[analog violet]

Yes

[jolly quarry]

that will change at higher difficulties

[solemn parcel]

what does it look like or how do you tend to slide dodge

[mystic wyvern]

Oh and since I didn't see it mentioned, but does anyone know what the random bleeds the surge staff applies are? Or is that a bug

[turbid dock]

run towards enemies, wait for them to notice you, slide before they can shoot you, then its melee time

[analog violet]

I time my swings with my slide - people just think that your swing stops at a certain distance. But you can actually DRAG swing in this game.

[robust pebble]

How did you do 'friends will be friends'? 3 friends that were glued to your ass the whole time?

[analog violet]

Drag your swings before they hit.

[analog violet]

Four Ogryns - Towering Presence.

[stuck fulcrum]

Do Autoguns just seem weak across the board or am I just not finding good ones?

[robust pebble]

It's one of the penances I'm least looking forward to attempting

[vivid zealot]

i didnt even think about that for the penance, thats smart af

[analog violet]

It was the most fun for us

[robust pebble]

Since pretty much all of the missions see you split apart by necessity

[ivory iron]

Ogryn has some really ammo efficient weapons for dealing with ranged like the grenadier gauntlet. Also stacking 3 max health curios with some corruption resistance (does this help with chip damage? I feel like it does but I can't tell) makes malice and heresy far more manageable

[solemn parcel]

huh, i just dodges the shots as i approach but that seems better

[analog violet]

We were all clenching our butts shooting every bomber we could

[robust pebble]

All it'd take is one mutant grabbing you, or a trapper, or ANYTHING and the whole run is fucked

[turbid dock]

they cant hit you at all while sliding you can try it

[analog violet]

That's why you have towering presence and we chase the ogryn who got caught

It was so funny

Someone got grabbed a mutant - we all charged the mutant

LMAO

[turbid dock]

just make sure you are at melee range at the end of the slide, or it will be an awkward moment before they light you up haha

[solemn parcel]

im gonna need to rebind my crouch then

[turbid dock]

yea i bind it to my mouse button

[robust pebble]

Imagine being the mutant and seeing three hulking brutes bearing down on you with murder in their eyes and shitter shovels in their hands

[ivory iron]

Man I need ogryn friends to do that with, that penance is so hard to do

[analog violet]

We did it too trappers too

[tired crown]

Some people like them but I think most find them underwhelming compared to good lasguns or the bolter.

[analog violet]

The funniest part was when we mobbed the beast of nurgle

[worn relic]

you can sprint to cancel as well, a little less work

[vivid zealot]

does the thunder hammer for preacher feel weaker than the eviscerator to anyone else?

[robust pebble]

At high level gameplay, most people are using the bolter (which is probably going to get nerfed into the ground,) very rarely a plasma gun, one of the accatrans or a MG XII.

[tired crown]

I've seen a ton of people say that, lol

[rapid ermine]

Imagine being beast of nurgle and bursting through a wall to be faced by 3 fanatical zealots wielding flamethrowers all yelling "BURN THE HERETIC" in sync

[analog violet]

They need to do the same balance patch they did for vermintide 2 near the end - the community patch

That shit made all WEAPONS viable and have their own specific spots

[ivory iron]

Plasma gun looks like it has ammo issues, or at least every vet I see with it is always low on ammo and complaining about being ammo starved

[vivid zealot]

true

[vivid zealot]

it does if you consistantly use it one things you shouldnt use it on

[robust pebble]

Bolter runs into the same problem because they'll mag dump on Crushers, Bulwarks or bosses.

And they tend to be unable to counter snipe anything more than five feet away.

[solemn parcel]

i miss my greataxe

[worn summit]

is there a bug for espionage missions? i cant seem to find any.

[analog violet]

Cough Let me handle the crushers and bulwarks

[ivory iron]

Oh ya that'll do it then lol. I don't blame them tho because plasma looks so fun to shoot

[analog violet]

I just tell my teams - Don't focus the other ogryns - I got it.

[robust pebble]

You can have 'em big man, I run the MG XII and deal with ranged trash and disablers.

[analog violet]

And I usually always win because I know how to duel those fucks.

[limpid ice]

wtf is this perk?

[analog violet]

Even plague ogryns

[analog violet]

That's really GOOD.

[solemn parcel]

doesnt cleaver do bad damage to crushers or are you running the feat for the damage

[analog violet]

Rending is GREAT.

[limpid ice]

bleed?

[jolly quarry]

pretty sure rending just reduces armor

[analog violet]

Bleed Damage.

[rapid ermine]

meanwhile the nerd with a gandalf staff just gives those 2 things their lifes worst AND last headache before the bolter kid can magdump with 20% accuracy

[robust pebble]

Rending reduces enemy armour, opening them up for far more damage from all other sources.

[tired crown]

Some vets are great with the bolter, even keeping enemy ranged units down. In general though I'll see them hip firing it into a horde then complaining about ammo 😦

[analog violet]

Cleaver does great damage surprisingly enough on heavies

[jolly quarry]

theres also one that straight up increases damage done instead of reducing armor which i think is better if you have other tools against crushers

[solemn parcel]

you running bleed feat + bleed perk or something?

[analog violet]

Yeah.

[limpid ice]

its on a knife though... im running bleed crit

[analog violet]

Bleed Build Ogryn.

[solemn parcel]

ah

[robust pebble]

The bolter is fantastic if you aren't getting so much as looked at by an enemy with a lasgun or autogun. If a bullet whizzes past your head your aim goes all to shit so you can't counter fire them.

[rapid ermine]

Anytime i see a vet mag dumping in to a horde makes me want to just shoot shotty at air so i can snatch all the ammo boxes before the vet can make it to em

[analog violet]

Stab them in the ass.

[ivory iron]

I hope the power maul had a good moveset. Really want a good weapon for that is light spam cleave like the butcher cleaver mk3 but has overheads with built in armor pen

[robust pebble]

Which is why I personally use the MG XII to pop heads reliably, even with the annoying suppression mechanic and a good F.

[solemn parcel]

the heavies deal like 80 damage when im using my cleaver but it's not an orange

against crushers

[analog violet]

Ain't got crits baby

[limpid ice]

compared to what im running now?

[tired crown]

Lol me too, same when I see people in heresy+ with a revolver. Like.. you grabbing an ammo box does so little versus a Kantrael XII!

[jolly quarry]

bolter is amazing for mag dumping into crushers and decent at onetapping specials/elites as long as youre not already being fired at

[silk willow]

Which patch was it?

[analog violet]

The overhaul of the entire game basically

[solemn parcel]

77 on crit

[tired crown]

Has it felt hit or miss with you? Sometimes I get suppressed if an enemy sneezes at me, other times I can continue shooting regardless. Maybe it's the camo feat?

[limpid ice]

@analog violet

[analog violet]

STab them in the ass

[silk willow]

I mean which number. Not the 4.6, right?
The one that killed Shade's CoM and implemented useless Hungry Wind and very questionable parry-dodge-stealth mechanic.
First thing google gave me.

[solemn parcel]

also the bleed maxes out at 20 for me against crushers

[analog violet]

Don't listen to em. I'm ogryn.

[solemn parcel]

im not seeing the benefit of it outside of an insanely rolled weapon

[onyx shuttle]

anyone seen alternative zealot headgear in the shop? i'd check but i got the penance bugged

[robust pebble]

I've experienced some weird things with the suppression stuff. Like, sometimes I can aim sorta okay and other times if I get struck by anything my character has a mild seizure and my aim is completely thrown off. Same with toughness breaking, but I think that's just emulating a 'stagger' on you more than anything else.

[jolly quarry]

bleed works nice if you have an ogryn with shield and a zealot with crit chance on bleed but its kinda situational, if only bleed lasted longer than 3s

[analog violet]

Wasn't that bad

[limpid ice]

yea one with bandana and then 3th with glasses..

[analog violet]

Plus Shade needed a NERF.

[robust pebble]

Basically if I start getting shot at I'll take cover and wait for whatever enemy was shooting at me to target someone else, so I can pop out and dome him, otherwise I'm just soaking up damage trying to fire blindly back at the guy.

[ivory iron]

Anyone know if corruption resistance on curio helps with overall corruption from chip damage that gets through toughness? Or is it strictly for being dealt straight corruption as from beast of Nurgle type stuff?

[silk willow]

a nerf, not a deletion of playstyle.
Rn I feel much better building handmaiden for general crit dps build than shade. lolworthy change.

[limpid ice]

straight for grims

[ivory iron]

Theres a separate one for grims tho

[analog violet]

@solemn parcel

132

[solemn parcel]

yeah must be power/weapon diff

[jolly quarry]

are you fr? ive only ever seen the cowl that turns you bald, made from different fabrics/leathers

[analog violet]

Just hit a 200 crit

[solemn parcel]

i only have a blue cleaver testing it against my other blue weapons

[jolly quarry]

crits are insane against armor

[solemn parcel]

it sucks compared to them

[robust pebble]

Grimoire resistance reduces the initial health drain you take ever so slightly, giving you more time before it leads to losing a wound. Corruption resistance is for other sources, like getting puked on by the beast or slapped around by the daemonhost etc.

[solemn parcel]

sure it does great against chaff and unarmored but 🤷 i can do so much more dps against everything else with club

[jolly quarry]

thats sadly still the cowl that turns you bald 😦

[silk willow]

any consensus on the best way to farm weapons with highest baseline stats?
For crafting afterwards.

[analog violet]

Is it a tier 3 cleaver?

[robust pebble]

Corruption resistance won't apply to grimoire and vice versa.

[analog violet]

What level are you?

[limpid ice]

dont know after that

[solemn parcel]

MK 3 cleaver is what you're talking about right

[analog violet]

No.

[inner steeple]

Yeah, check the shop every hour.

[analog violet]

I have a krourk MK IV

[robust pebble]

Acquire a good weapon you like now then wait until the 30th for when crafting is rolled out fully

[median grail]

i come to ask again, is this a decent chainsword worth grabbing?

[solemn parcel]

ah

[robust pebble]

I assume we'll be able to reroll the bars

[solemn parcel]

im level 30 with blues atm havent found a good orange/purple to buy yet

[inner steeple]

No

[jolly quarry]

yes, savage sweep is the second best trait

[solemn parcel]

and saving my mats for a good blue

[limpid ice]

only if you plan to sweep mobs

[tired crown]

Yeah I think that's the way to do it until they get suppression mechanics working as intended and (hopefully) take a look at stagger / player suppression.

[solemn parcel]

i am testing in comparison to the other weapons i have at the same power level

[jolly quarry]

also keep in mind if youre too close to your cover you will still get suppressed by the shots hitting said cover

[inner steeple]

To clarify, that weapon is 326 while being blue. Meaning it's not a level 30 weapon. Thus it will be 100% obsolete when you reach level 30.

[robust pebble]

To experience what I'm talking about as well, let a scab shotgunner shoot you. Your aim will be thrown downward, which is supposed to imply you were staggered by the hit and it goes through your ult too. I get the same thing on toughness break and occasionally while being suppressed by something

[limpid ice]

you want this

[jolly quarry]

i assumed it was in the basic shop, in which case its an easy buy

[silk willow]

original question was about acquiring weapon with good baseline stats.
that's the most important part of crafting, as far as I understand.

[limpid ice]

room for improvement

[analog violet]

Anyway if anyone needs ogryn tips - I'll give them

[robust pebble]

Oh shit really? I didn't know that. I thought it was specifically things close to you, rather than impacting whatever cover you're using, that's good to know

[inner steeple]

Only if you save it for the blessing so you can extract it later on.

[solemn parcel]

not sure what you mean by tier3 but the crit/armor damage on krourk4 is certainly better than mk3 but not by much and not good compared to club combined with bleed

[silk willow]

fml.
30 hours of only seeing 4-5 voidstrikes in the shop.
this time whole 3 have spawned.

[severe tartan]

Why is aim accelleration still on despite turning it off? Im playing on a deck and you can still feel the camera "speed up" when holding it in a direction...

[analog violet]

Club has a huge weakness compared to Cleaver - it's called cleave.

[robust pebble]

Waiting for the shop unfortunately, there's no reliable way to get weapon drops from missions afaik.

[jolly quarry]

upgrading stuff isnt that worth it yet since you cant reroll the traits you get

[analog violet]

You cannot cut through multiple enemies

[robust pebble]

I'd guess Flash missions will give us item rewards but be suitably difficult to complete and you'll only get one shot at them.

[analog violet]

Club is good - but it's not something you should use on a bleed build ogryn who needs to apply bleed to multiple enemies

Slab Shield is better for that

[tepid skiff]

gentlemen, i can't seem to do '50 shocked kills' penance. is there some trick to it? maybe menace diff isn't enough for it?

[jolly quarry]

wouldnt you want the shield instead in that case?

[analog violet]

Less damage but higher area of attack

But cleaver is higher damage and cleave

[jolly quarry]

not to mention an actual shield

[analog violet]

Shield produces horrible habiats for ogryns who think they need to be a shield.

[robust pebble]

Heresy. Use a bolter, go to one of the arena sections like the elevator on the smelter map, or the first realignment dish on the dusty one. Find a spot where the pox walkers will drop from above to clump up, toss two grenades at it, then mag dump.

That's how I got mine. The penance does not work on malice

[meager abyss]

Hi!
Can someone help me to get the Penance for Psyker to push 20 poxwalkers down a ledge?

[midnight aspen]

Is it currently better to save your mats until everything is out or if you have a good roll is it safe to consecrate?

[jolly quarry]

its never safe cause you get a random trait on top *id wait until we can reroll those

[analog violet]

I tried slab-shield.. But it's not something you wanna run in heresy or damnation. You will get grabbed by one mutant trying to cover your team or a hound or a trapper and that's it. You are dead. Stuck in one place trying to stop the ranged fire. You are far better off being a backline invader - constantly harassing enemy ranged into melee

[midnight aspen]

so just hope for a god roll legend drop?

[tepid skiff]

oh. but it says 'on malice'. that explains why it didn't work for me properly, thanks.

[boreal quarry]

Disagree on the slab shield, you shouldnt be planted all the time anyway, there is a time and place for that

[robust pebble]

I think the penance is either bugged or mislabelled. I'd killed 50+ on malice with no dice, but it updated on Heresy and Damnation.

[jolly quarry]

i found ogryns to be most useful 1. cc-ing stuff with grenade launcher and 2. soaking in fire so your team can pick off massed range without getting suppressed, you dont really have to be stationary while blocking

[analog violet]

Yeah - but a lot of people get that bad habiat and stick with it.

[boreal quarry]

Wielding a shield is not a 'bad habit' but you are entitled to your opinion

[analog violet]

And most ogryns try to charge into the range instead of slide dodging between cover to get to the enemy.

[midnight aspen]

slab shield is beast against daemonhost

[jolly quarry]

yeeah the shield special is a bit niche, walking and dodging with the shield up seems way better

[robust pebble]

Fucking this.

[rocky sierra]

My only problem with ogryns is them not listening for vet ults

[robust pebble]

As a veteran, stop running in front of me while I'm shooting at a mob of ranged enemies, or an elite

You aren't helping.

[analog violet]

A shield ogryn also can be a MASSIVE block for a veteran trying to lay down range fire.

[rocky sierra]

Ogryns popping their ultimate on one elite even tho vet can annihilate it with 2 shots

[analog violet]

I'm a cleaver ogryn - I always circle and backline so my veteran can do his job.

[rocky sierra]

And blocking u in the process

[jolly quarry]

tbh i get annoyed at this but ogryns dont have eyes in the back of their heads, if both players keep it in mind it can be reduced but you cant expect the ogryn to always be aware of your firing line at all times

[robust pebble]

Oh, I understand if I'm behind him and he doesn't realise it, but I've had Ogryns run THROUGH me to get to the enemy while I am firing at them.

[analog violet]

But the ogryn also shouldn't bring an item in a higher difficulty that they haven't had extensive practice with and block a dps class from doing damage.

[rocky sierra]

Ogryns can still hear the voicelines for ultimates

[boreal quarry]

It's a team, not ogryn and the others. Everyone needs to be aware

[analog violet]

I've seen so many bad ogryns pick up the slab shield and become a nunance for the team.

It makes bad habiats.

[gleaming topaz]

his best weapon is the knife imo

[stuck ridge]

Honestly the worst offenders for this imo are Zealots.

[jolly quarry]

the shield is not the issue here lol, its their overall hitbox. unless you are a psyker and fire voidstrike bolts through your allies lol

[eternal bone]

The mk3 cleaver is easily the best weapon on ogryn.

[boreal quarry]

ogryn without a shield can equally block, so its not the shield

[analog violet]

You think - I am shield. I am tank. I must be in the way of the fire.

[stuck ridge]

Somehow they manage to body block more of my shots than the friggin Ogryn does

[rocky sierra]

Shield makes better habits than knife ogryns trying to melee every elite

[lapis raven]

slashy cleaver (not stabby cleaver) is pretty fun

[analog violet]

Knife Ogryns should be going into the backline to shred them and don't doubt the knife. IT does crap ton of damage.

[rocky sierra]

It does but I rarely see ogryns position to help a vet

[jolly quarry]

with my zealot i have to cringe at that cause thats my job and ogryns should CC which is a role i cannot fill

[sharp apex]

If im blocking/shoving a horde, i try and only dodge backwards to avoid messing up lines of fire, but it happens

[torpid grotto]

Anyone also think that the weekly challenges kind of force you to pick and choose which character to commit time to? Juggling between four characters trying to complete challenges (especially the complete 15-25 missions contracts)... and average 25 minutes each mission (not speedrunning)... at minimum approximately 33 hours... at most... 42 hours PER week.

[analog violet]

Well you probably play in pubs with very little communication and assistance to the team.

[fathom crag]

Did they fix "just a flesh wound" too?

[jolly quarry]

you can easily do it with at least 2 chars and you can also roll for smaller challenges so you can complete all 5 instead of maxing payout with stuff like "do 25 missions"

[robust pebble]

You really should only be maining one or two classes at most. Realistically speaking, we're all going to have oranges by the time release comes out on our primary characters and the requisitorium will be a rare, once in a lifetime sorta deal if you spot something truly incredible. Or if they introduce red rarity weapons like in VT.

[analog violet]

And just because people think it's a one person job should know that anyone can kill any elite - but if its an ACTUAL danger - it needs to be put down regardless.

[rocky sierra]

I mean that's just a curse of pubs, + powersword doesn't make it the worst thing. Just a nuisance

Powersword infinite cleave is smth else

[robust pebble]

Like, I got two orange weapons on my veteran and it's highly unlikely I'll get any better

[jolly quarry]

true, but i still think ogryns can fill better roles than a frontline elite killer

[analog violet]

If they got the cleave to cut through the horde and the ELITE - who's to complain?

[jolly quarry]

all depends on team composition

[analog violet]

The elites dead - the hordes dead.

[robust pebble]

What was broken about it?

[jolly quarry]

well i dont think machete ogryn is better at horde PLUS elite than a zealot with an eviscerator

[late gull]

When do the missions rotate?

[jolly quarry]

better off enabling said zealot with a bunch of CC

[analog violet]

Surprisingly it is - the nerfs to toughness has put zealot in a bad place currently.

[eternal bone]

The ogryn is in melee, what are you complaining about?

[analog violet]

The zealot gets pumped by a shotgun hidden in the crowd and its over

[torpid grotto]

Honestly, I think the benchmark endgames for each class is gonna be completing all the penances within that specific class. I might just drop veteran sharpshooter all together once I completed all the penances for sharpshooter.

[steel kraken]

I'm happy with 1525 and not a single script or grim or sidemission required 😄

[jolly quarry]

i only struggle when my back isnt covered and i constantly get poked in the butt by sporadically trickling in horde mobs

[vivid zealot]

im jealous

[analog violet]

Spacial Awarness.

Do the spin slide dodge attack!

[jolly quarry]

or actual teamwork and covering each other so everyone can fulfill their roles

[steel kraken]

I'd share if I could

[fathom crag]

Being able to achieve it by dying under 10 minutes, whilst not actually completing the mission

[robust pebble]

No, that's still a viable cheese and in fact the ONLY strat to get it right now.

[rocky sierra]

I rarely see ppl slide even though it's strong asf

[robust pebble]

There is no mission that can be done in under 10 minutes.

[limpid ice]

untrue

[rich smelt]

I just rerolled the specific map and not sure if GG or not

Now it is 2025 + 1000 lol

[robust pebble]

"Complete" a mission does not mean "win" a mission.

[analog violet]

I always slide as my ogryn - I always spin around

[limpid ice]

assis 7 min 7esterday

[fathom crag]

I thought "Flash" missions could be the ones to achieve that

[jolly quarry]

very true, my fastest mission was a diff 1 assassination at 11 mins, theres no way you can complete difficulty 4 in less lol

[limpid ice]

knife run

[warped osprey]

Sliding is awesome, i do it all the time 😄

[fathom crag]

But, could you show me how to get that achievement or help me?

[eternal bone]

You will never get people actually committing to teamwork in pubs, and nor should they in most cases. Everyone can do everything, certain classes and setups are more optimized for certain things, but at the end of the day the objective is to kill everything in your path and get to the end of the mission without dying. Considering the average IQ of pubs, you should absolutely be trying your personal best and not trying to optimize what your team is doing.

[steel kraken]

Really don't like the grims, scripts can be ok.. but 25, sigh..
Side missions are much worse tho

[analog violet]

TRUE BROTHER - When I play pubs - I have to go hard carry at some points.

They might not like it - but we win right?

[robust pebble]

Go into a damnation mission and pack a bolter, shoot at barrels or something that'll down yourself while trying to avoid drawing enemy aggro. Get yourself to one wound left and lose some hp so you are not at full, then hide in a corner and pray.

[silk willow]

Is it same as what i heard about zealot's penance?
How does it work then?

[robust pebble]

see above.

[rich smelt]

Now it is increased from 1655 to 2025 lol

I really like to find scriptures, but 25 in a week will be a bit pain x' D

[analog violet]

25 Scriptures is easy

[jolly quarry]

you must be having bad luck with matchmaking my dude, i had little issues with most of my teams, then again im a zealot with eviscerator and bolter which is amazing vs elites, good against hordes and still at least ok against ranged

[analog violet]

I just run level 1's or 2's that have it and just scan the entire map

[rich smelt]

2025 points + 1000 from completion damn it

[robust pebble]

It usually takes 2-3 minutes to get yourself in the right spot for the penance, so you need to survive another 4.

[steel kraken]

its deffo a good amount of weekly points I'll give you that, and scripts aren't so bad, if only there were more missions with them at each difficulty

[fathom crag]

Does it work only on Damnation?

[robust pebble]

It works on Heresy as well, but Damnation lobby's will mostly be empty or full of zealots trying for the penance.

So you aren't being a massive detriment to your team.

(Which, all things considered, a fair number of the penances encourage.)

[robust pebble]

Just remember you have to be on ONE wound left and you must have LESS than full hp on that last little bar. I've seen a lot of zealots who don't realise this and think you just need to be below half health.

[jolly quarry]

most of them arent even possible without 3 other people enabling you specifically lol

[wispy fractal]

So two questions. Can the heavy stubber roll anything to give it rending and what armor type are mutants? I really love the thing overall but those two things will sometimes require literally 50 bullets to put down.

[spice sigil]

what are scabs/dregs

[steel kraken]

Watdoyamean ! psykers killing themselves are a good thing, then a demon won't come out of their forehead!

[robust pebble]

Scabs are traitor guardsmen with green eyes/night vision goggles. Dregs are the yellow ragged guys with autoguns.

[bleak maple]

I'm really confused with weapon perks for my lvl 30 vet , idk wat perks to go for , any guides?

[vivid zealot]

depends on which wep you are going for

[robust pebble]

err wrong quote

[steel kraken]

I'm guessing this was for @spice sigil

[jolly quarry]

dont forget their melee variants also count! scabs: spiky guardsmen, dregs: literal hiver dregs

[bleak maple]

bolt gun

[robust pebble]

Yeah lol, you messaged right as I was trying to reply to him

[steel kraken]

😄 lol

[signal cipher]

The more deamonhosts the better

[spice sigil]

thanks

[bleak maple]

using this right now

[cosmic wraith]

@spice sigil

[patent sapphire]

pinning fire and either rending or the toughness on elite kill

[jolly quarry]

try to find one with pinning fire

[steel kraken]

[unique forge]

For gear score, do I need to have higher level stuff in my inventory / equipped in order to roll higher in the Bardin Shop / Armory?

[limpid ice]

when max lv yes

[jolly quarry]

pinning fire is so op i love it *especially since it stacks even when shooting the same target several times for some reason

[vivid zealot]

Dmg, reload speed, anything with rending is always nice but the crit chance is a good one imo

[unique forge]

yes as in it needs to be in Inventory, or equipped?

[limpid ice]

upgrading does not count

[robust pebble]

I think this is effected by your gear that's equipped, your overall rank and maybe your penance score, but I'm not certain on that last part.

Definitely rank/gear related though

[unique forge]

gotcha, thanks

[fathom crag]

Yeah fair, I always aim for the 90% or so. But oof, I don't know if I'm miscalculating the timeframe, or getting just plain unlucky in deaths

[steel kraken]

@paper coral posted this the other day, so I guess its the best we got
For the rating it is based on :
o Mostly your character level
o A bit on your trait/perks amount (rarity)
o A bit on your trait/perks rank, so the quality

[unique forge]

I knew VT2 did this, but wasn't clear on whether it needed to be equipped or not

[limpid ice]

based on your stash

[unique forge]

ah i didnt realize they posted about it, thanks

[jolly quarry]

equipped or in inventory

[steel kraken]

Your guess is as good as mine

[unique forge]

classic fatshark vagaries

"+3% on hit." ...3% of WHAT?

[vivid zealot]

the 20% dmg ones are alright but the unarmoured enemies one is a little useless given you are gonna wipe 90% of things without armor in a shot or 2

[jolly quarry]

since perks and traits also add gear score depending on their rarity/amount its prolly safe to say go for higher gear score i guess

[steel kraken]

That would be my best guess yes

Higher rating and higher rarity

[robust pebble]

Plague Ogryns, Beasts of Nurgle and Daemonhosts aren't armoured as far as I know

[vivid zealot]

they count under unarmored?

[jolly quarry]

for the first two im decently sure its infested type

[uncut mantle]

For Preachers, what is the difference between uninterruptible (level 5 feat) and immune to getting stunned from melee attacks (level 20 feat) ?

[robust pebble]

I'd guess they're infested or classed as 'monstrosities' but I haven't seen that as a damage type yet

VT2 had something similar

[jolly quarry]

infested is what doggos and muties have

[steel kraken]

They are monstrosities, as thats what the weekly calls them

Plague orgyn and nurgle that is

[vivid zealot]

i mean if they count under unarmored then the unarmored dmg bonuses are great

[robust pebble]

Yeah but talking specifically about damage modifiers against them

They are technically unarmoured.

[steel kraken]

True, but I think unarmored is a mob type

[wispy fractal]

Far as I remember in VT2 at least you only had to have it drop at that power level for it to count as your new highest. Didn't even need to keep it at all iirc

[steel kraken]

and not, if it wears armor

[graceful escarp]

whats the top end GS for curios?

[robust pebble]

I'd know for sure if they were available in the meat grinder to test them

[vivid zealot]

ikr, its the one thing im waiting on

[shell cedar]

Uninterruptible (lv10 feat) allows ur heavy attacks charge not get disturbed by stuff hitting u in melee. The other one allows u to use range weapons without being poked at while ADS. Especially import for flamers

[jolly quarry]

they show up at rank 30, sadly not the monstrosities

[vivid zealot]

that and the captains as well

[robust pebble]

There's a whole section of enemy types that hasn't been revealed yet too

Right next to the ragers and the ... reaper? it's in that corner

[steel kraken]

Yeah true

[vale lava]

can i not reroll weekly missions once i started them?

[steel kraken]

So they still have time to add genestealers 😇

[hearty juniper]

Anyone, is it true that you can complete any penance on any class?

[jagged olive]

game keep crashing for people?

[robust pebble]

And there's still one dreg specialist I haven't killed, but I've damn well killed every single one of the buggers we have

[vale lava]

not for me

[jagged olive]

hrm

[jolly quarry]

no thats flamer, hound etc *sniper, trapper, mutie

[jagged olive]

ive been crash free all week, now I crash on mission score screen completion

[hearty juniper]

Anyone pls?

[jagged vigil]

there are specific class penances

[jolly quarry]

definitely not the class specific ones

[hearty juniper]

Argh too bad, just saw some post on reddit with people mentioning it. Got my hopes up for a sec. Thanks for the reply tho!

[rich smelt]

It is a very good amount of those wooden coins

[tired crown]

I got that today too, had maybe 3 crashes since the beta started.

[hearty juniper]

Thanks for the reply!

[jolly quarry]

oh i was wrong btw, mutie has the "dreg rager" defense type lol (which i think is called maniac elsewhere)

[jagged olive]

same, now i've crashed 3 mission completion in a row, tried validate but we'll see

[vivid zealot]

thats the unyielding type right?

[tired crown]

Let us know if it helps!

[jolly quarry]

no unyielding is unarmored ogryn spots (mainly reaper + bulwark head)

[jagged vigil]

Are there less psykers in 10-15lvl teams now? Have the class become unpopular? Haven't seen one in six games.

[jagged olive]

didnt, i validated, then played again, still crash

[robust pebble]

Oh wow, wtf. You're right Jav1k. I swear they weren't there last night when I went into the meat grinder.

The flamers and such

[steel kraken]

last section unlocks at level 30

[robust pebble]

Interestingly, the trapper counts as a 'dreg rager'

[bold bronze]

You unlock more things to hit as you level up.

[shell cedar]

Friendly PSA for rejects, pushing a leaping poxbuster will make them explode safely from a distance. You still need to move back or dodge backwards tho

[robust pebble]

armour wise

And the tox flamer

[jolly quarry]

your sample size is wayyy too small for such an assumption

[rapid widget]

Should i get this guys?

[river scaffold]

can anyone send a pic of the clothing/cosmetic store in darktide? im on ms store and we dont have it, and for some reason i dont see any vids that show it

[jolly quarry]

damn good to know, only knew that for hounds

[jagged vigil]

That's why I'm asking. Just was surprised.

[jolly quarry]

sadly all devils claws apart from mk I have a bad heavy moveset for horde clear

[robust pebble]

Also, there are locational damage points on some enemies. Try shooting a dreg shotgunner in the arm. It counts as 'unarmoured'.

[rapid widget]

oh ok

[steel kraken]

Ah dang, time to get more crafting mats!

[native rune]

can the same melee weapon type roll different movesets?

[jolly quarry]

all ranged weapons have a 75% mult on limbs tho

[hollow slate]

yea devils claw swords arent my cup of tea but its the highest gearscore ive seen

[subtle urchin]

is this evisc worth upgrading? i like the traits and the damage bar is good but not sure about upgrading system

[native rune]

or is the moveset weapon specific?

[vale lava]

no look for blues with atleast 415

[shell cedar]

There's also a penalty from shooting their limps. Arms and legs take only 75%damage

[jolly quarry]

moveset is weapon variant specific

[subtle urchin]

gotcha, thanks bestie

[robust pebble]

Sure, but with a 20% umarmoured bonus on a ranged weapon, that penalty is pretty much trivialised

[subtle urchin]

also i just realized the damage bonus is only on flak when i really want it to be on carapice/ragers

[jolly quarry]

true but id always recommend getting flak bonus on ranged weapons

[native rune]

so like Devil claw mk1 has one moveset and mk2 has another moveset?

[jolly quarry]

indeed *you wont know from the stat page either, that only tells you attack modifiers, not the moveset so you gotta buy one of each and try

[worldly flame]

so is the circle of trust 6 penance bugged? i dont have the access to the accessory

[quasi trench]

i feel like there should be like test weapons of all the differnt mk variants in the meatgrinder

[jagged vigil]

Yep, look at moveset icons when you inspect the weapon.

[robust pebble]

I'd kill for that, but again no rerolls as of yet

[tired crown]

Is it the little inquisitorial charm thing?

[jolly quarry]

nope, thats just damage/stagger/cleave/headshot multipliers, not the moveset

[worldly flame]

yes

[robust pebble]

This here's the best lasgun I've gotten so far.

[jagged vigil]

well, yes, but at least it gives general impression

[tired crown]

Open your inventory, click an equipped weapon, press C, and look for the charm icon on the upper left hand corner. It attaches to weapons.

Like a keychain!

[worldly flame]

ah that makes sense, thx

[jolly quarry]

yeah but it has nothing to do with the moveset, some are really illogical like assassin on a horizontal sweep and vanguard on vertical cuts so i wouldnt trust that at all

[tired crown]

That's a thing of beauty!

[shell cedar]

I wish dreg and scab shooters dont have such damn accurate shots....

[robust pebble]

Just aching to be able to reroll the perks to minmax the damage output potential on it

[jolly quarry]

you can dodge em 😛 if you see it coming

[tired crown]

How does it do on higher difficulties?

[jagged vigil]

Oh, I stand corrected then. I guess I haven't tested different melees extensively.
I just got Eviscerator, love the moveset.

[wet bloom]

raids are the ones where you kill demonic growths at the end right?

[tired crown]

I believe raid is ammunition stealing

[shell cedar]

Or perhaps longer pause between their shots. They shoot really fast on damnation.

[green hound]

Is it just me, or does Melk's shop refresh before the 24 hour timer often..

[robust pebble]

REALLY well. Heresy it can handle. Damnation it starts to fall off but then I've yet to get more than a few feet in a Damnation mission without everyone dying. The enemy spawn density is insane.

[tired crown]

And shutting down skyfire defenses on the newer map with the train yard

[wet bloom]

Know which one is demonic growths?

[jolly quarry]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890393386
this really helped me

[wet bloom]

Just did the silo one and want to write it down to remember for the penance

[vivid zealot]

strike

[limpid ice]

disruption

[river scaffold]

bro can anyone send a picture of the cosmetic store??? im on ms store and we dont have any of the beta updates

[wet bloom]

thank

[tired crown]

I can look in about five minutes, I know water supply corruption is one.

[limpid ice]

^^^^

[tired crown]

Oh there you go

[limpid ice]

the sand map as well

[shell cedar]

Also wished for mutants to have longer cool down between their grapple....it's almost impossible to deal with them if u get caught inside a horde

[jolly quarry]

smelter as well

[river scaffold]

pskyer lightning staff is basically the only mutant charge counter

and thats if u not getting grabbed lmaooo

[jolly quarry]

they can friggin grab you 3 times in a row with just 2 secs in between letting go and grabbing again, i hate it

[river scaffold]

u a real 1

[vivid zealot]

Smelter/silo cluster are strikes that have them. Relay station is a disruption that has them as well

[wet bloom]

Finally I can get a new lasgun, been waiting so long for one of this type

[shell cedar]

Not to mention...they are pretty tanky to kill...I emptied 5 revolver shots at it after being tossed and got charged again. Granted I miss the head which on a mutant....is not the same place as regular humans.....

[jolly quarry]

ogryn charge can interrupt them too but other than that its just dodge or kill

[limpid ice]

@river scaffold

[jagged vigil]

It is pretty meh, unless you really want different colors from red. Probably if you don't want to look like a tech-priest wannabe.

[river scaffold]

goated... im assuming the archetypes are based on penance?

[river scaffold]

is it based on your penance progress?

[jolly quarry]

no, i got the last zealot armor and havent seen any variation of that in the store

[sharp apex]

anyone else crashing on mission end screen when hitting spacebar?

[river scaffold]

theres literally like only 20 people who play on ms store 90% of the time im the last one

[jagged vigil]

pretty sure it isn't

[river scaffold]

ok thats good that it isnt then. cant get the last psyker penance for the life of me

[jolly quarry]

*also ive seen armors that i hadnt unlocked yet on a lower level char pop up

[river scaffold]

excellent

appreciate it guys

[limpid ice]

same hoping for a different color set or something not the basic stuff

[river scaffold]

we on ms store literally playing halftide

[jagged vigil]

Ahahaha, I gave up even on 'kamikaze 3 specials', can't do that one. Won't even consider heresy ones.

[river scaffold]

lol what i did was go to chasm logi then zapped a group of ragers twice, walked up and blew myself up

[coarse saffron]

Is there a way for me to see what mission types I've cleared on a certain difficulty?

[jolly quarry]

never buy anything in ms store, they think youre stupid and cant even be trusted to see the game files on your pc

[river scaffold]

the little cargo crate u can funnel specials

[river scaffold]

i did it because it saves progress between console and pc

my friends are gonna play on xbox

[robust pebble]

Have you experienced the rapid fire trapper yet?

I've seen it net three players in seconds.

[river scaffold]

plus nobody plays so theres a little benefit to it in beta

[lament raven]

is anyone willing to help a old pysker complete a penance

[river scaffold]

i can solo penances

[robust pebble]

I think it's latency/bug but damn did it fuck up a run

[jolly quarry]

no but ive seen 3 spawn at once inside of each other and immediately net 3 people in 1s after spawning (came out of a door right next to us, maybe 5m away)

[river scaffold]

but we have no updates

[rigid wasp]

Anyone else crashing at the end of mission screen?

[river scaffold]

0

[coarse saffron]

I'd like to see you solo ogryn penances xD

[vivid zealot]

i think its when you stagger them, it resets thier state with the reload to being loaded if they arent killed

[earnest lodge]

Can someone give me some gameplay tips for psyker, or point me to a youtube video or something? I'm level 21 and it still feels really clunky and off.

[vivid zealot]

ive hit one or two while they are reloading and when they get out of being staggered, they are already aiming at netting me

[lament raven]

psyker penances cannot be soloed to many variable cannot rely on randoms

[robust pebble]

It's hilarious to hear a character call out the trapper warning and then just have three !'s appear on your screen because three of us got grabbed by it. But not in a 'ha ha, that's funny' kinda hilarious.

[worn relic]

may i dm you?

[earnest lodge]

sure

[jolly quarry]

take voidstrike staff and mk I devils claw/chainsword, worked really well for me

[tired crown]

Strike missions also have corruption, btw

[rigid wasp]

Is there a way to know which type of missions I've done on malice already? I thought I done all but only 5/7 O.o

[jolly quarry]

or have 3 pox bursters come out of a door right next to you with no prior ticking noises

[jagged vigil]

I know that I could get it in theory, but this backwards approach kills my immersion and annoy me too much. Just pray to RNG for there to be three specials, then soften them up, then pray for teammates to not kill them, then pray to overload and explodiate before dying...
I think I will wait the release. Maybe there will be solo mode to do that without annoying random people by messing up their runs.

[robust pebble]

Your own memory, sadly. There's no in game tally system to let you know.

[solemn parcel]

the big thing that makes me sad in this game is the backstab sound happening at the same time you get hit

[robust pebble]

The best pox burster combo I've been in was one popping, which threw me into a second one, which threw me off of a fatal drop.

[outer bloom]

buy the hammer?

[robust pebble]

Like a god damned pinball

[karmic pecan]

Anyone wanna farm penances?

[limpid ice]

right perk is better

[jolly quarry]

try lfg chat

[limpid ice]

more dps\

[karmic pecan]

Oh yeah see it now, thanks

[robust pebble]

Also I wish more people were aware of the glaring weakness a burster has. If you melee shove them, they'll stumble back and then explode on their own. If you dodge backwards after the shove, you avoid damage all together.

[limpid ice]

hammer is more of a stay away from me weapon and through m on the ground

unless you see a elite then boom

[solemn parcel]

sometimes the burster jumps before i can do that though

which is very cool

[robust pebble]

You can melee shove them in the middle of the jump

Until they explode they're vulnerable to it

[solemn parcel]

oh it staggers them? i must have missed or something

[outer bloom]

its enough of a power boost that it should up my store drops so I bought it

[sharp apex]

bursters are vulnerable to bursting

[jolly quarry]

it pushes them back quite far so you can actually get out of explosion range

[solemn parcel]

i was just wondering whether you can interrupt their jump animation

[robust pebble]

You can. Though your mileage may vary with latency in the mix.

Granted, I've shoved bursters while playing with australian friends and I'm in ireland

[wispy fractal]

Glad I'm not the only one that struggles with mutants lol. Feels like they are wildly tanky and essentially never miss their charges.

[robust pebble]

Dodge to their right. I've found that to be far more reliable to avoid the grab than going to their left (where their arm is outstretched.)

[solemn parcel]

yeah the lag is strange sometimes in this game

[humble helm]

What's the difference between the two Lucius pattern lasguns? I mean in gameplay

[outer bloom]

slight variations

I think there's a guide on reddit hold on

[cyan wind]

anyone else constantly crashing after mission completion?

[crude talon]

general chat is spammed full so i ask here

[robust pebble]

Them being entirely subpar to the MG XII or Accatran.

[crude talon]

is there an admin online ?

or mod

there is someone in my chat who sends scam steam links

[robust pebble]

But in seriousness, the charge speed and visual differences in the models and iron sights.

[humble helm]

oh I dont look at stats. I use what's fun or looks good to me, with enough practice anythign can be great

[robust pebble]

As well as the melee attack on them. One is a stab, one is a cleave

[outer bloom]

I mean they are though.

[limpid ice]

<@&735928989146939404>

[humble helm]

oh nice ty!!

[tough epoch]

Yep just mesage one of us we'll handle it

[outer bloom]

The fact that the charged shot goes off rather than holding makes them difficult to use.

[pulsar tundra]

Will wardens also read me a bedtime story about the glory of Jaghatai Khan?

[robust pebble]

Yeah that. If that was added as a change I'd consider using one but... honestly, with weapon sway, enemy movements, player blocking/interrupting enemy animations, suppression and how clunky the ADS is, landing a full charged shot on a weakspot is such a hail mary that it isn't worth it.

[outer bloom]

I will read you a story later

[robust pebble]

You can cancel the charged shot if you swap to melee btw.

[tough epoch]

The only Primarch I like is Sanguinius so probably not

[outer bloom]

I mean without melee canceling, which is a bit muche

[pulsar tundra]

oh sure, go for the pretty boys witht he flashy transport

[robust pebble]

Not that I'd ever advise you to do that to warrant using the meme gun.

[crude talon]

i messaged you everything

[tough epoch]

Aaaand hes dust

[subtle laurel]

Any particular reason Endless Hoard has been on perma rotation more or less? Its getting a bit tedious.

[tough epoch]

[pulsar tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-gif-25006981

[robust pebble]

You should play Heresy. No matter what, they always have endless horde on them.

[subtle laurel]

i have been

[robust pebble]

It's a bug, but fuck me is it exhausting to go through a heresy map.

[subtle laurel]

or trying rather

[crude talon]

ty so much !

[formal ridge]

Anyone else crashing after every mission end screen today?

[jolly quarry]

is that a stellaris meme xD

[tough epoch]

[subtle laurel]

Have they mentioned and ETA on a fix for that bug and why theres just the endless hoard global modifier on permanently?

[strong jewel]

Alright. From what I understand.. this damage and the second trait are utter umgak, right?

[tulip star]

Can Warp Battery be earned on a higher difficulty than Malice, or is it just plain bugged?

[naive flame]

I was correct to buy this, yes?

[jolly quarry]

yes *momentum is S tier

[robust pebble]

What character/class is this on

[tulip star]

That's a godroll congrats

[naive flame]

Nice

[hollow mulch]

Hello,
I Have a cathachan combat blade with flesh tearer perk
but perk description missing
It says
bespoke_bleed_on_crit_melee_desc....

so i wonder, did it adding bleed on crits or something else

[limpid walrus]

The one time i do every Melk bounty and get enough to buy something
He sells only purples and they're all crap ;-;

[cursive talon]

try playing borderless fullscreen. i kept crashing too but now it has stopped when i changed that

[strong jewel]

Psyker. It's a force sword.

[robust pebble]

Oh right, I didn't see that.

[jolly quarry]

even tho the timer says like 12h it actually refreshes every hour

[shut crown]

how's this boi looking?

[jolly quarry]

no pinning fire, meh

[unreal falcon]

that rending though

[robust pebble]

Prooooobably shit? I haven't played Psyker yet so I can't weigh in on it. I'm not sure how vital stamina is to them.

[limpid walrus]

Kinetic Deflection makes stamina a thing of the past, so it doesn't really matter too much

[robust pebble]

That's a really, really good bolter.

[jolly quarry]

they have low stamina so unless you take stamina curios (which are pretty meh) you wont be blocking much with it

[half totem]

does the shred blessing only work when repeatedly hitting the SAME enemy or does "Repeated Hit" just mean rapid attacks on any?

[dreamy crest]

Any tips on knocking down 100 enemies with one Bull Rush? Not really focused on penances but I'm sure I've knocked down more than the 45 enemies it's telling me I have

[strong jewel]

Mostly keeping the sword for that "Block Ranged Attacks" perk. And I really like it.. but I have no reference of what a good Force Sword looks like. Stamina and damage-wise

[robust pebble]

Heresy/Damnation with a corridor and a pox walker horde pouring in and endless hordes active.

[shut crown]

i'm a little unsure if its better to have dmg vs Specialists or Elites, but good to know. Thanks!

[jolly quarry]

best is bonus vs flak

[tulip star]

Not orange, but this is what's been carrying my Veteran.

[shut crown]

makes sense

[dreamy crest]

Will give that a go, normally play malice because my buddies got the game later than me

[half totem]

higher difficulkties with the endless horde modifier and wait for a hallway and have the extended rush feat

[robust pebble]

You'll be mag dumping on them regardless, so that little extra bit of damage won't matter all that much unless you're playing on Damnation where minmaxing truly matters.

[shut crown]

fair enough

[dreamy crest]

Have that talent on, I'm sure I'll get it when I move up difficulties then :) Thanks fellas

[robust pebble]

While that blessing is great, that ammo is horrifically bad. If you see something better, take it immediately.

[half totem]

Does the "Shred" blessing only work when repeatedly hitting the SAME enemy or does "Repeated Hit" just mean rapid attacks on any?

[crude talon]

check dm , i am realy stupid

[jolly quarry]

tbh las guns are pretty ammo efficient already so its not the worst tradeoff

[robust pebble]

Repeated hit on the same target I'm pretty sure.

[half totem]

thats a shame

[tulip star]

I'm just hoping stat rerolls come soon, because yeah, the ammo ain't great, but I pop elites pretty good.

[half totem]

thought i finally found a good crit weapon but your answer saved me a lot of dockets, thanks

[dreamy crest]

Another question real quick, do Pox Hounds bounce off walls and catch me after I've dodged them? Feels like I get pounced sometimes a second later

[robust pebble]

You won't be hitting multiple targets long enough for it to matter that much, but if you're hitting a boss or a crusher or something it'll make a world of difference.

[robust pebble]

If a pox hound misses a pounce it'll take a moment to recover and typically run off a short distance before trying again.

[limpid ice]

best of both

[half totem]

the shop is so frustrating

[limpid ice]

yep

still waiting ona blue hammer

[hollow mulch]

Hi,
any ideas what this perk doing? applying bleed on crits?

[limpid ice]

or better

[shut crown]

i managed to snipe it form the bounty shop, i find the normal armory very lacky

[jolly quarry]

i had 3 rounds of only blue autoguns and heavy swords in a row as zealot

[limpid ice]

yes bleed on crit

[jovial elm]

Got my first 500 item rating today

[half totem]

I had to wait almost 4 days checking every hour while I was awake to see one eviscerator

[jolly quarry]

yeah i got my first one at rank 28 lol

[outer bloom]

is there a report player feature?

[half totem]

jesus

[outer bloom]

"StinkyRexicans" is being somewhat shockingly toxic

[jolly quarry]

but that was before they lowered all unlock requirements by what feels like 10 ranks lol

[hollow mulch]

thanks! do u now how much? cos there is also perk for bleed for general attack (Laceral)

[half totem]

oh ok

[limpid ice]

@hollow mulch check my dm

[robust pebble]

If you're in a mission with them, press escape and go to social. You can vote kick from there.

[rustic dirge]

Which blessing is better?

[jolly quarry]

bleed is kinda meh except on ogryns since it only lasts like 3s which makes it super hard to stack it reliably *i think its guaranteed 1 stack per crit

[robust pebble]

I would personally say thunderstrike, because killing things with weakspot kills with that weapon is not easy to pull off reliably, while staggering them is pretty much all the shield and club combo is for.

[rustic dirge]

I thought so, guess not worth buying that shield even though the rating is higher

[robust pebble]

Then again, deducing what 'hit mass' and 'impact' mean is something I can't comment on. I'd guess impact means they're more susceptible to stagger in general from all attacks

[nocturne oracle]

How much can bleed stack? Say you got a knife with +3 bleed on non-weakspot, if you light-spam thats 3 3 3 3 ... etc but does it actually stack well?

[robust pebble]

But... hit mass kinda means the same thing.

[shell cedar]

Whenever I see a zealot with dagger bleed build...I want to cry in a corner knowing that that zealot is going to be shit at killing stuff...

[robust pebble]

Or it means your weapon won't bounce off of them if they're heavily armoured?

[jolly quarry]

impact is staggering force and hitmass is what gets deducted from your cleave strenght per enemy hit *as in each enemy has a specific hit mass

[robust pebble]

Riiight, right.

[high cairn]

Max is 30 I think

[high cairn]

In 4+?

[honest ice]

so what's the difference between the various autoguns like braced, infantry, etc

[nocturne oracle]

You probably just saw bad players

[crimson olive]

So are lasguns good for sharpshooter at high levels? I love the way they play

[shell cedar]

Probably...haven't seen the proper bleed dagger builds on zealot on 4 and 5 yet

[jolly quarry]

braced doesnt have ADS but very low recoil when you "aim", all the others have ADS

[high cairn]

Yeah, I run bleed dagger on Zealot and I mince through the enemy

I literally just dodge dance around Reapers and murder them solo

[robust pebble]

The MG XII and Accatran are excellent on Heresy.

[jolly quarry]

and then theres single shot, full auto and burst (which sucks)

[verbal wyvern]

Does anyone know if anyone has made a sheet showing what perks do and what perks can max out at and what perks go on what weapons yet? If so, that would be so useful

[nocturne oracle]

It's all about knowing what moves to use on what enemies, same as every other weapon

[outer bloom]

Unsurprisingly the guy named "stinkyRexican" and the guy talking about "Riggers" failed the run.

seriously report player may need to be a thing

[nocturne oracle]

Yeesh

[shell cedar]

And with randos...u are more likely to get people not knowing how to use or properly build them

[nocturne oracle]

(Hahaaing the racism not the reply)

[outer bloom]

actually I think the dude straight up threw out the n-word at the end but it got bleeped by chat

[robust pebble]

Every major game will attract shitheels, no matter what kind of filters are in place. Best you can do is vote kick them and hope the rest of the team aren't his friends or unaware that you can boot a toxic player from the match.

[jolly quarry]

and then theres afk farmers who dont move from the spawn location hoping to get some scraps when you inevitably fail the mission

[outer bloom]

2 toxics in one game

so no option to vote kick

[peak crag]

The game dc'd me near the end of a mission...and I didnt get any xp..

[quiet wharf]

guys I am getting crashed at reward screen any idea?

[peak crag]

is this true? lol

[formal ridge]

I too have this problem, no idea

[outer bloom]

We had this happen to a guy and held the shuttle til we ran out of ammo hoping he would RC.

Sadly our bullets ran out first

[shell cedar]

Tzeentch has his gaze on you

[outer bloom]

so we left a man behind

[high cairn]

You have your blades

[peak crag]

T_T

[timber silo]

yo, anyone help me get a penance done for ogryn? Friends will be Friends?

[jolly quarry]

if your team isnt antisocial theyll wait at extraction for you to reconnect

[outer bloom]

today in "you will play 3 lvl 1 missions"

[jolly quarry]

try LFG chat

[peak crag]

To be honest they wiped when I reconnected. Guess who was the carry lolll

I was the glue T_T

but it was basically near the end

[outer bloom]

like I said, we held the shuttle til we ran out of ammo on one run, then we actually did have to bounce because SO MANY POXWALKERS

[shell cedar]

Friendly PSA on the mini boss fights on assassination missions....please stop using range on the dude when he has his shield up.... especially las weaponry deal very little damage. The shield is weak against melee

[outer bloom]

his shield is also weak against bolters

4 of them

it was glorious

[peak crag]

Is it true that ravagers shouldn't be shot at?

[outer bloom]

ragers you mean?

[peak crag]

ragers*

yes

[shell cedar]

No...they should be ranged. Melee with them is bad

[outer bloom]

they appear to respond negatively to bullets in my experienced

[high cairn]

Just axe them in the back of the head

[robust pebble]

To be honest with you, nobody should be shooting the assassination target. The shield takes very little damage from all ranged fire, while if all four people bully the bastard in melee he goes down in less than a minute.

[peak crag]

I heard one of the characters say "Don't shoot the ragers!!"

[shy dagger]

This is the most relevant thing to your request I know of: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons

[uncut verge]

The XII is top notch

[high cairn]

Ranged is really worthless vs the Captain bosses

[outer bloom]

dunno about 4 or 5 but IME just magdumping the boss through shields and health seems to work fine on 3

[sacred verge]

Any psykers here got tips for out with a bang?

[old phoenix]

Bolter shreds him once the shield is down tbf

[outer bloom]

bolter also shreds him when its up

[quaint crypt]

Has anyone tested the haymaker trait on the combat blade, against the assassination boss?

[shell cedar]

Anything shreds him when his shield is down. But stop ranging him when his shield is up

[verbal wyvern]

Hmm, thanks for the reply but not quite what im looking for. Cheers tho

[outer bloom]

bolter. It kills you.

[robust pebble]

his shield reactivates as soon as he takes a certain amount of health damage

[uncut verge]

You can shred boss shields with revved chainblades pretty quickly

[tired crown]

If you stack burns on him while it's down, they stay on and drain the shield pretty quickly.

[ebon fjord]

be lucky or 4 premade and play weirdly :/

[outer bloom]

I'm actually not sure about that. I've had lucky runs down him in 3 shields and bad ones down him in like 6

[high cairn]

That’s so inefficient. A chainsword/Evis will do more ina. Revved up attack than your whole mag

[jolly quarry]

this is false, one bolter shot does like 2% of his shield lol

[outer bloom]

i think its timed or health

[robust pebble]

Oh? Huh. I haven't seen an accatran with burn on crit yet so that's something I was unaware of

[tired crown]

Yeah the burn melts his shields, at least on heresy.

[uncut verge]

both. If you don't do enough damage fast enough, then his shield comes back anyways.

Other times he gets his shield back in 2s because your team just shredded 1/3 his health lol

[void plaza]

What is the highest grey bolter weapon power I should look for to upgrade to master crafted?

[tired crown]

Force sword is the best vs bosses imo, you take a HUGE chunk out.

[uncut verge]

The closer to 400 the better

[tired crown]

Can't wait for force great sword ^ ^

[jolly quarry]

https://youtu.be/9QlBkFN9RRw?t=1268 seems like penetration scales shield damage

[void plaza]

How high should a blue bolter be if I want to max out a blue one that has good stats?

[outer bloom]

Also we should be getting the melta gun sometime soon, it's in the game files

[jolly quarry]

btw this is the only out of like 6 breakdown videos i watched with ACTUAL research done and not speculation presented as facts

[shell cedar]

The boss get stunned if you burst his shield down. with M E L E E

[desert gazelle]

in release

[jolly quarry]

zealot with any chain weapon = hard counter to boss xD as long as someone keeps the specials off your butt

[high cairn]

^^

[outer bloom]

on release or slightly after I would guess.

[desert gazelle]

Best boss killers are thunder hammer and force blade with max dmg rolls

[outer bloom]

if they're trying to make it feel right

[shell cedar]

I had a tough time leveling my lowbie psyker on malice yesterday in a bunch of assassination mission to a point I avoid it

[jolly quarry]

theyre prolly better against the shield than chain weapons but with a charged chain heavy special you can completely skip a health phase

[wispy fractal]

J_sat is really great for super technical breakdowns. His vermintide stuff was extremely informative

[verbal wyvern]

What i did notice however, its missing perks. I have this perk, yet on the site its not there. I guess they didn't get round to finishing it?

[desert gazelle]

They actually do reduced to shield vs hp

[high cairn]

Opposite way around imo. They don’t fair well vs the shield but they smack hp

[desert gazelle]

I can 3 shot a herecy boss in assassination with my max roll force blade

it's kinda insane actually

[shy dagger]

Yeah, it's not the best, but it has a few things on there that help out. Perhaps its info can be used to compile a better resource.

[high cairn]

Really fulfilling Psyker being meant to be a huge single target damage role lol

[cerulean pelican]

What is mission site vault spireside?

[jolly quarry]

i love savage sweep so much, only thing better is momentum, ideally both

[shell cedar]

I had 1 zealot lv 25ish on malice using flamer on the boss when his shield is up. Thanks for blocking the view and doing nothing to his shield

[desert gazelle]

literally ONLY boss killer, it sucks on herecy and up vs everything else

[patent sapphire]

power cycler on the power sword seems insane

[tight shale]

Uh. Anyone else had their weapon skins disappear?

[desert gazelle]

I feel that lmao

[high cairn]

Ye that’s kinda why Evis is so popular. It’s good-great at almost everything

[jolly quarry]

on assassination bosses i usually went to clear adds as psyker since neither staff nor brain burst does anything significant to the boss

[high cairn]

Great Horde Clear, still decent vs bosses, great armor pen

[shell cedar]

Only thunderhammer deal more single target DMG. But that's is

[desert gazelle]

You can take out "to the boss" hahahhaa

Just in general

[verbal wyvern]

Would be nice if the site told you what the perks mean. e.g: what does "cleave" mean / do (not saying i dont know but for those who dont)

[jolly quarry]

naaah void staff is imba, especially in tight corridors, against anything safe for stuff with heavy armor

[high cairn]

Thunder hammer has fuck all in terms of cleave damage. It can CC but it doesn’t slice enemies up. Thunder hammer also is weak vs Armor since Evis can just ignore it with a rev up

[tight shale]

Everything else for Vet kinda sucks though. Anything that's good for dealing with a Rager eating your face is terrible into horde, and anything good at horde is pants at getting a Rager off you

[jolly quarry]

and that is considering evi is the worst out of all the chain weapons for the special attack lol

[shy dagger]

There was another site that kinda talked about those. Found it via Google randomly.

[verbal wyvern]

Do you by chance remember it?

[high cairn]

Best at horde clearing tho

[shell cedar]

On heresy and damnation. Thunderhammer shine more. Since at 4 and 5, teams needs to be more specialized and coordinated in order to have a chance...at 5

[shy dagger]

Looking for it. In class, so a touch difficult.

[verbal wyvern]

take ur time

[jolly quarry]

try chain sword, it can stunlock ragers with special, has crazy good horde clear with heavy attack spam (especially with savage sweep) and can still do amazing damage vs armored with special

[bitter trail]

Has anyone tested Ogryn's bleed DR talent to see if it benefits from other players' bleeds?

[shell cedar]

At the end, power sword wielding vets deal better with hordes

[humble helm]

I used both versions of the Lucius pattern lasgun and I'm not sure what the difference is other than looks, does anyone know?

[jolly quarry]

indeed, its amazing allround, just saying normal chainsword and especially chainaxe are even more insane with their special attack

[quaint crypt]

how so? On 4-5 difficulties you can have amazing cleave but vet has no real cc tools when you're getting swarmed

[sterile gate]

This look worth it?

Now sure how Power works

If its just damage or what

[tight shale]

You sure you're not thinking the Evis? Chainsword was pretty bad at hordeclear when I tried it

[quaint crypt]

best tool vet has for massive tides of enemies is camo expert in my expierence*

[jolly quarry]

it scales ALL stats, pinning fire is must have on bolters

[shell cedar]

Power swords have infinite cleave....u kill stuff... Leave the cc to ogryn

[sterile gate]

sweet

[bold bronze]

So...anyone have any idea why the braced autogun has the same-ish damage as the burst fire autogun....but the braced autogun has ~3x as much ammo...

[blazing kiln]

is random acquisition worth it now?

[jolly quarry]

i was using it for quite a while before they lowered evi rank requirement, it was pretty mind blowing back then (do keep in mind savage sweep perk)

[shell cedar]

At damnation, u need the proper team coordination in order to clear it with a good success chance

[tight shale]

Is Savage Sweep a weapon trait or a class perk?

[jolly quarry]

weapon trait, +150-200% cleave on multihit

[delicate ingot]

Do stats matter on power sword

I’ve upgraded from 250 to 400 or so it doesn’t rly feel that different

[shell cedar]

Arguably, even on heresy, one can still be uncoordinated and still clear. But on damnation. Lol...maybe if u r VT2 vet that solo cata+ deathwish....sure

[tight shale]

Noice. Hopefully that'll be a lot more viable once we get get specific traits on to weps

[quaint crypt]

that's my question tho, i keep hearing "vet op/vet can do everything" but alone in melee he has limited use if it's a full swarm on him. He still needs to play off team composition and Ogryn is better off in melee due to his massive health pool and low stagger.

[shell cedar]

That just Fatshark didn't understand the meta until we started flooding the servers

[shy dagger]

This is it: https://www.gamepressure.com/S013-amp.asp?ID=19759#NH2_2

Not the most informative, but a tiny bit of clarity.