gameplay-help

[ocean flower]

Just a regular flamer I think

I don’t think the zealot could wield a heavy flamer

[uncut tangle]

It's just a regular flamer, heavy would be insane

[golden hill]

can we get a heavy flamer for ogryn pls

[uncut tangle]

Most broken weapon we could get

[boreal quarry]

Fair enough hold the extra blessed napalm

[golden hill]

multimeltas exist lol

[ocean flower]

I’m not sure how they would balance a heavy flamer. Same way as the Bolter, I suppose? Make it super slow and limited ammo?

[pearl night]

Hey we already have the veteran outperforming us in melee, we don't need the ogryn outperforming our flamer :v

[uncut tangle]

They in darktide?

[boreal quarry]

balances will come in no doubt

[golden hill]

not yet, but eventually, hopefully. The more weapons the better :D

[uncut tangle]

And I'd say lascannon is better or assault cannon

I know meltas are supposed to be in

[pearl night]

I hope the melta is a zealot weapon

[golden hill]

I'm just hopeful to see a ranged ogryn subclass one day, the heavy weapons guy

or rather heavier weapons guy

[uncut tangle]

But how would they actually fire

[burnt sierra]

I'm rather hoping for 2H power sword, I assume melta would be vet

[uncut tangle]

And what use would they have tbh

[boreal quarry]

They mentioned three classes per archetype before beta, so I'll go out on a limb and say one of the three Ogryn ones will specialise more on range

[ocean flower]

There are ranged specialist ogryn

[uncut tangle]

Like space marine shotty , dow close range anti tank?

[golden hill]

lascannons, autocannons, grav cannons, other real heavy shit

which will probably take 30 seconds to reload...

[ocean flower]

If you mount it on a tank, you can probably mount it on an ogryn

[uncut tangle]

Ogryn is not getting any of that in a million years

[merry jacinth]

Best weapons for ogryn im currently lvl 8 atm (I heard a shield is good but I need help)

[uncut tangle]

They would break it before even firing a shot

[pearl night]

@uncut tangle probably like space marine with armor melting capabilities. That's the closest to the way its described in lore

[boreal quarry]

Shield is good for defense and crowd control. Just the way I like it 🙂

[golden hill]

true, but darktide ogryns are literally einsteins

[uncut tangle]

Grenade gauntlet, stubber and shield and club

[golden hill]

how else would we be able to send 4 ogryns into a mission with little to no supervision?!

[uncut tangle]

I know we are bone da heads

[pearl night]

Ogryns can operate data interrogators for God's sake

[merry jacinth]

when do you get a shield

[golden hill]

yes

[uncut tangle]

But I still wouldn't trust a ogryn with a lasgun

[golden hill]

with their massive fingers

[uncut tangle]

Lascannon*

Level 11

[golden hill]

how difficult that must be, huh?

[pearl night]

They are super geniuses

[uncut tangle]

I believe

[merry jacinth]

Aw 3 more lvls to go

[silk plover]

anyone know what the special action on the dueling saber for psyker does? I tried it on enemies, stabbing specials in the back seems like its just a regular light attack on a special button.

[merry jacinth]

wait if I get a shield do I only get 1 choice of melee or can I pick others

[uncut tangle]

Might be 9 and stubber is 11

You can use others but shield is great for team

[golden hill]

oh also plasma cannon sounds like an option, at least

[boreal quarry]

one choice, its the maul that comes with it

[uncut tangle]

Oh you meant off hand

It's only maul

[merry jacinth]

Ah I see, im currently using some auto shotgun thing is that good

[ocean flower]

Generally, if a melee weapon has a special attack it’s a very high stagger interrupt

[pale musk]

guys should i buy the knife? is it good?

[ocean flower]

Power level’s a bit on the low end, but it is good

[golden hill]

looks pretty darn good

[ocean flower]

Up to you I’d say

[uncut tangle]

Stats are very evenly distributed

[pale musk]

low end at nearly 450?

[ocean flower]

The cap seems to be roughly 500

[burnt sierra]

yea, they go above 500 lol

[uncut tangle]

Personally not a fan but I don't know the best perks on dagfer

[ocean flower]

Lacerate is ridiculous

[golden hill]

I dunno how strong bleed is, but if it's at least somewhat strong this seems like a fun roll

[uncut tangle]

Buy grays at 350 and upgrade

[burnt sierra]

haymaker + lacerate if you want to abuse bugs

[smoky sierra]

anyone who succeed in "friends will be friends" penance for ogryn ? i need some infos

[ocean flower]

If I ever got more than 2 on offer I’d consider it 🙃

[uncut tangle]

Thought they patched the dagger no?

[boreal quarry]

get better friends for that penance

[uncut tangle]

Mentioned in the patch notes at least

[merry jacinth]

Can anyone tell me how do i get this credit type, for I need it to upgrade weapons (the purple one)

[burnt sierra]

nah haymaker + lacerate can still oneshot entire hordes of elites with stun nade + heavy attack

[uncut tangle]

Blue glowing boxes on maps

[boreal quarry]

Blue boxes are on Malice and above i believe

[golden hill]

higher difficulty missions I think give quite a bit? (3+)

[zenith torrent]

Decisions, decisions...

[boreal quarry]

rarer then plasteel

[burnt sierra]

uprising* and above

and it's Diamantine

[merry jacinth]

damn I can only do uprising difficulty

[uncut tangle]

On tier 2 as well I believe

[merry jacinth]

oh cool

[golden hill]

yeah, tier 2 also has them, just so few it's not even funny

[ocean flower]

They’re significantly more common on Malice than Uprising, but they are there

[wary crescent]

any group doing consistant heresy runs?

[golden hill]

malice+ seems decent in terms of gains

[boreal quarry]

Absolutely no point to not having it on one then really

[burnt sierra]

no point, Damnation is easier because of EH bug

[uncut tangle]

Yea I get about 30-50 per match on malice

[wary crescent]

EH bug?

[uncut tangle]

But that's probably luck

[burnt sierra]

Endless Horde

[wary crescent]

ah ok

is that where all the people are at? lol

[uncut tangle]

Yea every tier 4 are endless for some reason

[burnt sierra]

Heresy always has EH active no matter what, so Damnation is far easier because of less Specialists & Elites

[wary crescent]

ok, well, anybody doing damnation runs that i can tag along in? 30 vet

[uncut tangle]

I'm still surprised that's not fixed

[golden hill]

holy shit is this the reason why I didn't have a successful heresy run yet? I always did quickplay and never noticed

[uncut tangle]

Was happening last night

[burnt sierra]

#vox-lfg-nasa #vox-lfg-emea #vox-lfg-apac

[plush schooner]

Could use some opinions here if i would grind to get this today

[fickle wagon]

anyone knows when the next lights out special condition will be?

[uncut tangle]

Yea did a heresy run and it was normal but after that every game was endless for some reason

[golden hill]

Disguting. Get it

[burnt sierra]

bad stats and horrible blessings

[ocean flower]

Sunder seems useless?

[boreal quarry]

Good for cleaving through unarmoured groups

[burnt sierra]

it's difficult, for sure

[ocean flower]

Energized attacks already have seemingly infinite cleave

[uncut tangle]

Perks are bad

[burnt sierra]

they do

[plush schooner]

yeah i was thinking the same orange tho

[uncut tangle]

I got a energized and it was weaker then slaughter and the other one

It could be great at launch tho

[golden hill]

yeah, like there are were insane situations. Like fucking trappers running in squads from your back with dogs spawning ahead and shit

it was nuts

[burnt sierra]

upgrade greys, better rolls and you can just exchange blessings with 1.0 crafting

[boreal quarry]

remember you can remove perks and put new ones on soon to

[uncut tangle]

I'm sure power sword will get nerfed

[golden hill]

all the while you get massaged by hordes of normals

[boreal quarry]

traits*

[uncut tangle]

I just lag around and get carried now

[plush schooner]

hmm feeling like i'm going to skip it then

[rugged wigeon]

I'll tell you what I want a mk3 dagger that doesn't look like I tried to use it to destroy a metal wall

[tight cedar]

the main blessing you'll want on a power sword is the one that allows you to get more attacks off before it powers down

[golden hill]

not in this economy

[uncut tangle]

What's that called?

Haven't seen that perk yet

[tight cedar]

cant remember the name

its pretty rare though

[burnt sierra]

unnecessary, the power-up is frame 1 and you can auto-cancel it with an attack, so there's 0 down-time, you want 2*power on hit

[boreal pine]

lets all disconnect at random times

[rugged wigeon]

Lets all disconnect rn.

[uncut tangle]

The one I have now has rampage which works really well but slaughter is also supposed to be great

[plush schooner]

yeah was hopeing it would have that one when i saw it in the shop

cool i know what to do now, thank you lads. emperor protects

[tight cedar]

ive yet to experience a full cancel that doesnt interrupt blocking or pushing plus you can easily have the charge interrupted by an enemy hitting you

[burnt sierra]

if you get hit, you gotta improve your dash-dancing and shoving game

[shut crown]

So basically, skill issue

[burnt sierra]

yep

[uncut tangle]

With how broken power sword is yup

[uncut tangle]

Is it infinite

[fair gust]

Hello lads .
I wanted to ask has anybody made a report on how to animation cancel with the battle shotgun

[dull pier]

Not exactly but 11 light chain attacks before power down

[uncut tangle]

Doesn't work for heavy?

[dull pier]

works

[burnt sierra]

why would you heavy on psword

[shut crown]

Why not

Its based

[uncut tangle]

Neat how many heavy hits?

[burnt sierra]

it's pretty redundant when it's powered up

[dull pier]

i can easily kill several maulers and crushers with 1 charge, so its good enough

[north wolf]

Which one of those should I take? Left seems to have a lower damage?

[uncut tangle]

Gotta look out for one then

[onyx schooner]

how do people do the flesh wound penance

[shut crown]

By seething and coping until you manage

[fair gust]

U can Chees it

U can start a mission

[shut crown]

[fair gust]

Go down and then survive for like 9:30 min

[onyx schooner]

do i have to go down once?

[fair gust]

Yes

[boreal quarry]

Left has more stagger power and ammo, the right has more innate damage and mobility (movement and dodge)

[onyx schooner]

do i need to lower my health first after the first down or is that it?

[fair gust]

U need to otherwise u are not on one wound

U need to go down so u take a wound

[north wolf]

I just need crit and I wish it would show that.

[fair gust]

Then survive for like 9 min with a squad

Then. All of u must die

[onyx schooner]

oh okay

[dull pier]

@north wolf dont take either lol, Look out for the same thing but on Torrent Recon Lasgun

Op AF

[tight cedar]

so it one shots on infinite cleave along with a perfectly horizontal swing

[fair gust]

The mission donst check if u actually made it

[onyx schooner]

so set a timer for 10 min, go down once, and survive the last 9 mins

[fair gust]

Yes

[onyx schooner]

ok thanks a lot!

[fair gust]

Start the timer at mission start

Then

[north wolf]

I have a recon lasgun, but my infantry procs like 5 crits a mag, and my recon rpocs 0-1

[uncut tangle]

Could you run and suicide at 9:30

Assuming your playing with boys

[fair gust]

Make sure ur friends help u up after beeing downed

[uncut tangle]

Bots

[fair gust]

Then last but not least make sure to not die till 9 min

[onyx schooner]

is there a way to set the mission to private

[fair gust]

Then kill ur squad

[dull pier]

@north wolf its on weak spot hit, Hit heads man xD Boss fights on weakspot hit burn like hell

[halcyon solar]

i need tips on psyker cliffhanger penance! i know about the spot in chasm and espionage but cant seem to get enuf mobs any tips?

[fair gust]

I suggest that u get a 4 man squad

[boreal quarry]

I'm assuming if the weapon doesnt state crit as a stat, it doesnt modify crit

[north wolf]

Weakspot hits are not crits. They're separate. Weak spot hits do not proc infernus.

[onyx schooner]

ah okay

[dull pier]

Hmm i need to check if i have somethin else then

[fair gust]

If u want can help u once I’m back from work

[onyx schooner]

also one more thing, im guessing it doesnt count if the game is already started right

[solemn locust]

hm, is this an upgrade to what I have equipped?

[burnt sierra]

yup, weakspot is usually the head, while crit is RNG

[onyx schooner]

that would be greatly appreciated haha

[fair gust]

What do u mean ?

The time starts at game start

[onyx schooner]

if i joined a mission rather than starting one

[fair gust]

It counts yes

U can complete the mission u joined under 10

It works

The game counts from u joining I belogt

Belive

[dawn cypress]

anyone know what causes "Unable to perform operation" with Hadron?

[burnt sierra]

are you consecrating a hammer?

[dawn cypress]

yes

[burnt sierra]

well, that explains it

[dawn cypress]

im guessing this is known then

[burnt sierra]

yup

[dawn cypress]

bet

[ocean flower]

It will do less damage, but have significantly more bullets, a longer range (spread, I assume?), and more suppression. If that’s what you want out of your gun, it’s an upgrade. If you just want damage, it’s a downgrade

[boreal quarry]

Range is how far before drop off happens

[little atlas]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/known-issue-thunder-hammer-cannot-be-consecrated/60998/52

[solemn locust]

hard to say really which is better for the role

since it was mostly the damage i was concerned about

[dawn cypress]

thamks

[solemn locust]

like, if it still does roughly enough then its fine but if it suddenly misses alot of breakpoints, its technically an ammo loss

[ocean flower]

You could just buy it and test

[solemn locust]

hah, youre right, thanks.

[ocean flower]

See how much of a difference the damage bar makes in the psykanium

[uncut tangle]

That happened when I tried to upgrade my thunder hammer

Thought it was just the weapon type

[glad spindle]

Punishing Salvo bugged right now? Says it adds 15% weakpoint damage to 2nd/3rd hits of a salvo, but it only bumps my damage from 162 to 164 (3 shots)

[boreal quarry]

Stability is the spread of the barrage and the recoil of the weapon

[glad spindle]

that's a 1.5% increase in the 2nd and 3rd shots

[ocean flower]

I honestly didn’t realize that there even was falloff

[glad spindle]

weirdly enough, some lasguns have reverse falloff

[ocean flower]

In every weapon I’ve tested, there hasn’t been any significant difference in damage over range

[solemn locust]

seems to functionally have little damage difference, but that might be due to it having a higher gear stat too.

[boreal quarry]

I believe its damage fall off, rather than bullets reaching targets. For example I can still hit something with the kickback at range, but do little damage

[ocean flower]

In that case, the new one is def an upgrade I think

[burnt sierra]

yes, power is part of damage calc

[solemn locust]

that explains it, thanks

[ocean flower]

I figured that that was just because the kickback is a pellet gun, and less pellets are hitting

I’ve heard tell of people shotgun-sniping snipers

[boreal quarry]

Interestingly the stagger/knock down still works for the kickback at range even if the damage doesnt do much

I use it to nullify the odd sniper

I'm also expecting that to be removed post release (because its a bit crazy)

Also side note. would love more 'stopping power' ranged ogryn weapons.

[craggy trout]

So question considering that cosmetics have no effect gameplay wise, will we see different armor eventually for each class like elysians, moridains, pratorians, catachans, and kriegers?

[burnt pendant]

There'll probably be different sub-classes, akin to VT2. I assume they'll also come with their own base aesthetic. That's why each class currently has two names - one's the base, the other is the specialization.

[burnt sierra]

I think #theorycrafting would be the better place to ask, other than that, not unlikely for a donation of a few dollars.

[uncut tangle]

What worries me is how long until we get sub classes

[jade pebble]

Does Martyrdom increase all damage or just melee damage? (and it's a flat amount yes?)

[rapid ermine]

All me thinks

[merry jacinth]

when they gonna fix error code 2007 and game crashes

[rapid ermine]

Shotgun goes BRRR

[uncut tangle]

Error 2001, 2004 and 2007 my old friends

I would be shocked if I didn't see them at least once per mission

[rapid ermine]

You playing on a smart fridge or something?

[burnt pendant]

I'm hoping they won't be aesthetically too different (maybe just 1 set of armour for a start) and thus could be implemented relatively quickly. I for one would take a new psyker with pretty much anything instead of Brain Burst. Same for most of his feats.

[little atlas]

• 2001: https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/known-issue-nonexisting-channel-error-code-2001/58565
• 2007: https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/known-issue-internal-error-error-code-2007/55447
  ... they are being investigated... all we can do now is provide them with more information and wait for them to find the faulty code

[uncut tangle]

Bless you beaker

Hopefully that fixes it

@burnt pendant Psyker honestly has the most potential for easy sub classes

[wet bloom]

I use vpn to pass them

weird that it works

[uncut tangle]

Like warp everything

Fire, water, air, earth and all that

[little atlas]

Abhumans are also potential for further expansion... like adding Ratlings.

[uncut tangle]

I know the salamander psykers use fire exclusively

The amount of dialogue for ratlings is grating, if they aren't added I would be shocked

[little atlas]

Ratlings are essentially reverse Ogryns

[uncut tangle]

Also a pretty easy class to implement I would think

Make them all about camo and their skill is like the invisibility from v2

[little atlas]

Well, biggest Problem with Ratlings is that they overlap with the Veteran quite a lot.

[uncut tangle]

Could make them snipers exclusively but yes would overlap regardless

Or assassins

We don't really have an assassin class

[burnt pendant]

If their past announcements are anything to go by, they will stick with the 4 main classes, and just add subclasses to those.

[ocean flower]

What role could fatshark add that wouldn’t overlap?

[little atlas]

Ratlings are fragile and don't have a lot of strength (giving them the opposite of the Ogryn's Stagger passive)

[uncut tangle]

Problem is this isnt fantasy where you can get wood elf, dark elf etc

[burnt pendant]

So f.Ex. an Ogryn gunlubber or a useful psyker, and as the current veteran is a sharpshooter, maybe something that's more 'go in and go full auto'?

[uncut tangle]

So you can only do so much with sub classes

[fallen turret]

hi guys, i can't seem to find 2 more mission modes. are espionage and investigation missions hard to come by?

[uncut tangle]

They aren't on rotation @fallen turret

What about preacher

[ocean flower]

Ogryn and psyker are cc, psyker and vet are ranged special/elite hunters, zealot and veteran are gunman hunters, zealot and ogryn are horde dps

[fallen turret]

is there a way to see which maps is on rotation?

[uncut tangle]

No it's kinda like the deep rock galactic system but worse

[fallen turret]

oof

[burnt pendant]

You can do enough. Psykers and Ogryns have sufficient options, and I'm sure they'll find a different variety of Astra Militarum soldier and religious nutjob.
An actual new class would require completely new armour, 6new voice packs, new pennances, etc. That's an enourmous amount of work for something that half the playerbase wouldn't even care for, with comparatively little effect on gameplay. Also, that'd be theorycrafting.

[glad spindle]

it's like DRG except imagine sometimes there are no mining missions. Or no egg missions. Or whatever missions drg have

[ocean flower]

It seems like each subclass has unique penances and likely armor regardless

Though the voicework and writing would be a major undertaking

Not just for the new class, but for everyone that has to have lines responding to them, too

[uncut tangle]

Commissar could be cool for the preacher

Imagine you just execute your vet for sucking

Boosting dps of everyone else

[ocean flower]

Wouldn’t commissar be for vet?

[boreal quarry]

nah commisar ogryn reportin for shootin, sah

[uncut tangle]

Commissar would never should his beestest buddy

It's 40k so it could be both

They are religious so either or

[ocean flower]

I wouldn’t describe commissars as being Zealots (like obv they are zealous, it’s 40k, but not to that degree)

[boreal quarry]

I was joking that the commissar would be the ogryn lol

[ocean flower]

Everyone is religious, it’s literally law

[uncut tangle]

I think it varies from commissar to commissar

Like yarric isn't religious at all

He's also dead but it happens

[shut crown]

not everyone is religious in the imperium

actually, most of the people aren't

[uncut tangle]

That's heresy talk right there

[boreal quarry]

my religion is littun's and rations

[uncut tangle]

Unless you are with blueman

[rare spruce]

fellas which is better

[shut crown]

oh lord

[uncut tangle]

The perk on 2 is so good but stats

[shut crown]

the left one

[uncut tangle]

That's rough

[boreal quarry]

right one doesnt really do as much cleave damage, targets so probably not that

[ocean flower]

I’d go with the right. My biggest struggle with the power sword is that it’s dodges are ass

[uncut tangle]

Right just because cleave targets don't matter

[shut crown]

+2 rending is juicy for flak and carapace

[uncut tangle]

On power sword

[shut crown]

bruh yes it does

[uncut tangle]

It's not that good

It's not the special has infinite cleave

[ocean flower]

Power sword has infinite cleave, why would you want more cleave targets

[rare spruce]

Rending is good but if energised hits then most flak targets die anyways, no?

[uncut tangle]

Yea special already does full dmg

So outside of cleave damage the right is better

[shut crown]

does it have infinite cleave?

[uncut tangle]

Yes

[boreal quarry]

supposedly 'cleave' adds to damage somewhat to, although how much is anyones guess

[burnt sierra]

that doesn't matter, Target-count affects damage calculations and the bar that increases "cleave targets" affects those calculations to an extent, and since mobility barely, if at all matters, especially due to powersliding, the left one will do more damage by default without blessings due to a. bars b. power c. crit chance

[little atlas]

Blessings aren't that important in the long run since you'll be able to transfer them. Base stats are better so I'd go with the left one as it has more cleave damage, too

[red stratus]

has anyone seen investigation or espionage in rotation recently?

[shut crown]

not recently

they took them out to give em a fix

[burnt sierra]

about 24ish hours ago

[red stratus]

sameish

[uncut tangle]

Ah ok

[red stratus]

guess they're out of the rotation then

[bright mural]

left

[uncut tangle]

So higher cleave targets effect the damage calculations good to know

[bright mural]

significantly better

[boreal quarry]

Yes apparently

[bright mural]

Cleave damage is busted

[burnt sierra]

yes, anything that increases: power, targets, damage, stagger or crit has an effect on damage

[uncut tangle]

I still dislike the left perk

[burnt sierra]

not to mention hitzones have a huge effect on damage, e.g. you only deal 35% of your damage if you don't hit the Beast of Nurgle's weakspot, despite weakspots usually increasing your damage over the regular 100% damage you do

[fickle lintel]

is it a new bug where picking up anything forces a reload?

[proven escarp]

Which ranged weapon is being used at T5 for ogryn?

[uncut tangle]

That's been there for a while

Cheers for info xil

[fickle lintel]

it just started today where picking up makes me reload

[burnt sierra]

I suggest checking j_sat's content on YT for more info on damage calculations and hitzones, lots of information, but it's worth the time

[burnt sierra]

gauntlet, by a long shot

[uncut tangle]

Will do, couldn't find many guides so was waiting for launch

[modest jungle]

someone know how to do the "just a flesh wound"penance?

[uncut tangle]

Teammate ogryn gauntlet was insane but stubber is still the most fun

We can change perks later on right

What about stats?

[burnt sierra]

perks as in blessings? yea.
and stats as well, yea

[merry jacinth]

best melee wep type for ogryn?

[uncut tangle]

Experimental branch did not work rip

[fickle lintel]

i use one of the cleavers with horizontal strikes

[burnt sierra]

well, the regular way would be to learn how to powerslide and, if possible, look for 3 likeminded people, then doing a Heresy/Damnation assassination on transit hub since that's by far the shortest map in the game atm, the other way is to exploit, tho you can easily find that information

[uncut tangle]

Not the best not the worst

[thorn imp]

pretty rough

[uncut tangle]

Will need to reroll alot

[waxen hemlock]

Could be worse.
Cries in Plasma gun

[burnt sierra]

you're better off upgrading a grey from scratch, 423 is very low

[uncut tangle]

Still works well on heresy but can't find many grays with better damage and stopping power

[thorn imp]

whats the highest lvl gray anybody has seen

[uncut tangle]

Yes but store has been rough

[burnt sierra]

same tho

[jade pebble]

Someone pleas explain this to me, significantly better DMG+PEN stats but 300 less damage. Does the 8% really make that much of a difference? (you'd think it actually meant 80% by the damage)

[uncut tangle]

352 I think

[waxen hemlock]

You should atleast keep it for the later crafting options.

[uncut tangle]

That was the versatile Las gun sadly

Had great stats but don't like it

[burnt sierra]

bugged, it's +80%, yw

[open cargo]

Out of curiosity, what would be a decent rating?

[uncut tangle]

I use it atm, wanted to switch to plasma but they are a joke

[burnt sierra]

for a yellow/orange? about 485+, I'd say

[open cargo]

I see

[jade pebble]

jfc, i assumed as much. what does yw mean?

[burnt sierra]

you're welcome lol

[thorn imp]

i wish this was higher ilvl

and that it was an evis instead

[burnt sierra]

but yea, any +% elite damage bonuses are bugged atm

[rich smelt]

ooh I like this weeklies 😛

1655 + 1000 for completion

[uncut tangle]

Tbh so long as you get good rolls the rating isn't too important but obviously you want the 500 gold

On a side note what are good perks for the bolter

[fickle lintel]

my blue bolter is 410 thats terrible

[burnt sierra]

cavalcade + pinning fire or shattering impact + pinning fire

[rare spruce]

rating is eh though

[uncut tangle]

Pinning is stagger on hit right

[fickle lintel]

unless youre like level 20

[craggy trout]

what are the 7 mission types?

[plain pike]

So I am playing on a rx 6700 xt and i5-13600kf with 32gb and a pcie 4.0 ssd on a z690 board. I am using 3440x1440p 21:9 as resolution and aspect ratio and get about 90-100fps with fsr 2.0 on quality/balanced but I drop fps to 60 or less, I mean sometimes I feel the drops. Any tips on how to reduce them?

[shut crown]

one has additional damage against elites

[craggy trout]

like raid,
assasination,
repair,
strike

[waxen hemlock]

Think its this for me, Decent Base for a weapon.

[final depot]

do i save a blaze away or an overpressure flamethrower for later crafting?

[uncut tangle]

Assassination, espionage, strike, raid, repair, disruption

[jade pebble]

Yes thank you, that really isn't a solid awnser though

[uncut tangle]

Investigation

[jade pebble]

But i already got my awnser

[waxen hemlock]

Both.

I have alot of gear ive kept just for the Traits on them

[boreal quarry]

is chained hit just a multiple target hit?

[warm snow]

are any of these worth getting?

[drifting harbor]

I wanna say 360, but aparently 400 is theoretically possible

[uncut tangle]

Both are nice

[drifting harbor]

bolter is decent I'd say

reload isnt maxed but thats fine its pretty minor

[uncut tangle]

Has anyone gotten a rending 4

[prisma anvil]

This has probably been answered before, but Feats that are listed as something like "+7.0% Toughness Damage Reduction (Allies in Coherency)" mean that you (and not allies) get an additional 7% damage reduction while you have toughness, right?

Or does it mean that your toughness takes 7% less damage?

[burnt sierra]

pinning is +power on stagger

[uncut tangle]

Ah cheers

[final depot]

yeah good point, just picking out what to buy this hour

[boreal quarry]

Can someone explain what the game means by 'chained hit' in terms of function please 🙂

[austere epoch]

succesful hits in a combo i believe

[prisma anvil]

I believe that "chained hit" is when you do multiple attacks in a row (a combo)

[boreal quarry]

so light attacks, or multiple heavy attacks?

[prisma anvil]

Each weapon has an at least 2-hit combo

Either

[austere epoch]

could also refer to cleaved hits?

[boreal quarry]

Thanks, looking into keeping that trait for slab shield

[prisma anvil]

Inspect the weapon and it will show you how its chains work

Or, how that weapon's chains work

[modest jungle]

Thx

[boreal quarry]

'heavy attacks ignore hit mass bonus' does that mean I could potentially stagger a big boy a long way?

[formal ocean]

how do I check which one I need for this, looked at the missions tab and it doesn't tell me what I ain't did on malice

[prisma anvil]

Still not sure about this... trying to decide if I would rather take additional toughness damage reduction ("Benediction" feat) or something that might provide more value ("Inspiring Excoriation" for example)

[prisma anvil]

I think at the moment you just kind a have to guess

Look for new ones

Ones that you don't recognize

[viscid vortex]

^

[formal ocean]

damn time to roll the dice

[boreal quarry]

Gurth I'ts probably espionage you ar emissing

[sullen prism]

whats the best staff for psyker?

[boreal quarry]

same as me

[formal ocean]

might be, I rarely seen those

[prisma anvil]

I think that's what that means

[boreal quarry]

Oh boy 🙂

[warm snow]

I also have this, is it worth getting the orange melk bolter or just upgrade this?

or is reload speed really such an important stat on it?

since it's kinda crap on this one lol

altho i'm a vet

so sustained fire does exist

[viscid vortex]

I was just about to ask that lol I love the flame staff but the lightning has good cc but the void one has really good damage and range

[prisma anvil]

Or perhaps something like... when I'm chaining swings with my thunder hammer, sometimes it stops on more armored guys

[uncut tangle]

The fix for 2001 sadly does not work

[prisma anvil]

I think maybe it would ignore in that case

[uncut tangle]

Hope they actually fix it

[agile nexus]

I have a request to pick up 12 scriptures. Do i have to pick up them personally or just have my team bring it up to the end of the mission?

[drifting harbor]

I#d prob get melk since it has nearly maxed reload, 320 isnt great rating wise on grey

but it aint bad

[uncut tangle]

Team

[drifting harbor]

would keep the grey to roll on it

[waxen hemlock]

That white plasma gun in your shop is making me angy.
Im still looking for a good base >:T

[uncut tangle]

Just run 4 scripture missions and get them

[agile nexus]

thanks

[inland pier]

Team mates count as well I was wondering this as well this morning

[boreal quarry]

Could be that to, I'm just trying to find good traits to put on a slab shield once I find a good one. I play more for crowd control and defence 🙂

[prisma anvil]

Is there someone I can ping about this?

[prisma anvil]

Yeah, definitely mass then!

I think it would be useful regardless 🙂

[boreal quarry]

Sending a big boy over the rails is my goal 🙂

[prisma anvil]

Oh dip

Yeah, you could probably stagger with that haha

[boreal quarry]

Still waiting on the 'this is sparta' ogryn kick 🙂

[prisma anvil]

I can stagger a bulwark or crusher with my charged thunder hammer, so I don't see why you couldn't haha

[worldly flame]

what gun with evis? flamer? for heresy with randoms

[craggy trout]

yo real talk wheres my melta

?

[boreal quarry]

melted?

[drifting harbor]

not in yet

thats where

[prisma anvil]

What is evis?

[waxen hemlock]

Melta is a type of gun yes.

[prisma anvil]

Which feat is better for Zealot, 'Purify in Blood' ("Replenish 50% more Toughness on Melee Kill") or 'Enemies Within, Enemies Without' ("Replenish 5.0% Toughness per second while within 5 metres of 3 enemies")?

[patent sapphire]

zealot 2 handed chain sword

[prisma anvil]

I'm not sure how much toughness is restored on melee kill

[prisma anvil]

Ah, thanks

[prisma anvil]

I find that the flamer is powerful but (in my experience) not so good with randos

[boreal quarry]

quickplay just chooses a random mission from the board you can see, at the desired difficulty?

[prisma anvil]

Might wants something a little more viable for close- to mid-range combat

[patent sapphire]

it fills you in to missions with bots/open spaces at the difficulty you select

[elfin ingot]

Ayooo pog. now if only the block efficiency wasnt there.

[prisma anvil]

Don't underestimate block!

Sometimes it's super useful to just stand and block for teammates

[patent sapphire]

do you need wrath on power sword? it gets basically infinite cleave when powered up

[prisma anvil]

How long does it stay powered?

[boreal quarry]

It still adds damage through cleave to some degree

[patent sapphire]

3 heavy swings

[prisma anvil]

Having Wrath would allow you to get similar cleave without having to power or do heavy swings

87.5% cleave is pretty good

[merry jacinth]

what does +1 wound(s) mean

[waxen hemlock]

The blocks your health is made of

so downs

[prisma anvil]

It means you can take an additional wound (go down one more time) before you die

[waxen hemlock]

Pretty useful to have one

[merry jacinth]

Ohh wait how many times can you go down before you die

[boreal quarry]

depends on health blocks

[prisma anvil]

I think 3 normally?

Generally

Most health bars are split into 3 or 4 blocks at first

[merry jacinth]

Ahh okay

I got 4 atm I think

since im an ogryn

[boreal quarry]

I do not think percentage health adds to blocks, just expands blocks also

[patent sapphire]

higher difficulties take one away

i think it starts at heresy

[prisma anvil]

Nice, yeah, that would give you an additional down. However, having an additional would on Ogryn is a bit less valuable since you already have more than the lil'uns

[boreal quarry]

Always protec tha litt'uns

[bitter grotto]

is any of these worth upgrading? I'm still puzzled by how this system works and what's "meta

• is it just my terrible luck or only one 400+ weapon popped up in my shop a.k.a. chances are extremely low?

[patent sapphire]

i don’t think anyone fully understands the system yet so hard to recommend spending resources yet but the power sword is good enough to keep

until we do figure everything out

[prisma anvil]

I agree with Local Man, I would hang onto all those until they do the update that gives transparent weapon information

(which... is that coming?)

[boreal quarry]

supposedly sooon (tm)

[patent sapphire]

they said weapons will have more in game info than just bars when it launches

[drifting harbor]

when in doubt, keep the mats

for now dont upgrade anything that doesnt have max damage rolls (max possible roll right now is what the shotgun has) as a general rule

[patent sapphire]

or something to that effect, but they didn’t say what exactly or when exactly

[alpine flicker]

My shop tells me something

[boreal quarry]

Every day you be shovellin

[bitter grotto]

btw does anyone know from experience what are the guesstimate good treshholds for different color-tiers?

[shut crown]

if only the damage didnt suck peanuts

[spare cedar]

Is using the plasma gun useless to my team?

[bitter grotto]

because from what I've seen so far consecrating gives anywhere from 10 to 25 rating

[boreal quarry]

Does it kill, then no? 🙂

[bitter grotto]

If I saw correctly (through all the gunk on the screen) it can overpen enemies creating nice and tidy corridors in hordes
a.k.a. I love the gun

[boreal quarry]

Plus it looks awesome

and sounds awesome

[bitter grotto]

and serves as a great heat source

[boreal quarry]

miss me eyebrows though, sah!

[rigid wasp]

3 lights

[bitter grotto]

should plasma-players go for giant scar on one side of the face to complete the look?

[spare cedar]

I love blowing my self up with it

[bitter grotto]

...and horde with it!

[boreal quarry]

sarge only shoot me cause he cares!

[spare cedar]

Oh yeah once it’s happening I rush into any enemy I can find

[supple kindle]

Im a zealot and wich weapon would be better for me can anyone help me ?

[prisma anvil]

The one with Lacerate

[tight cedar]

on difficulty 4+ yeah its not great, on 3 feel free to use what you want and bask in the glory that is the plasma guns cool factor

[prisma anvil]

And use the feat that gives you increased crit chance on bleed and the feat that give syou +75% toughness on crit

[bitter grotto]

but why is it not great?

[tight cedar]

as a vet your main job is to keep the ranged enemies from shredding your frontline and taking out specials but difficulty 4+ just spawns so much nonsense that the plasma gun cant keep up

its the same issue with most guns on 4+ its less the guns themselves and more the nature of how the difficulty scales

[bitter grotto]

oddly enough I just keep getting more multikills instead of not keeping up with spawnrates

[tight cedar]

well the problem becomes apparent when you end up running into groups of 20-30 ranged enemies that split up and form a firing line

then the plasma gun cant really do anything

[unborn jasper]

this is what I dream of at night atm

[tight cedar]

lul

[unborn jasper]

worst nightmare ive ever had

[tight cedar]

yeah its pretty awful sometimes, especially when its at longer range and they just aimbot you

[unborn jasper]

like I love the game's feel but GODDAMN those ranged guys

[bitter grotto]

from my experience - only in this case plasma is significantly weaker than bolter but otherwise I'll pick plasma (maybe it's just me)

[weak adder]

I would look better

[quaint gyro]

what graphics option do i have to fiddle with for textures to load in faster? im annoyed by my shield being blurry and then slowly getting a good resolution everytime i equip it.

[tight cedar]

i mean i cant argue with how cool the gun is so i dont blame you

[raw plover]

hey guys, are the twitch reward skins in-game yet?

[patent sapphire]

i got the sword in game

can’t check the ripper since i don’t play ogryn

[unborn jasper]

also is powersword veteran exclusive?

cause that thing is dope

[bitter grotto]

while playing with friends I was able to get rid of elites faster with plasma than with bolter

[patent sapphire]

yes

[raw plover]

i swear i claimed the ogryn one and i cant find it

[unborn jasper]

L

[patent sapphire]

same skins are coming around again

so you have another chance

[bleak maple]

wat are the best perks for vet weapons? wat should i look out for?

[prisma anvil]

Not sure, you might just try turning down your graphics settings until it doesn't do that anymore

[raw plover]

yeah, guess so, thanks

[prisma anvil]

It's really poorly optimized right now

[tight cedar]

yeah one shot as opposed to 2-3 but the bolter has far better ammo efficiency

[bleak maple]

plasma sucks , bolter rocks

[boreal laurel]

I have had way more success with the bolter than the plasma

[tight cedar]

imo the bolter is straight up better than plasma

[cerulean pelican]

Most are good, depends a little on the weapon. Everyone sharing vision on your ult is the best pick. Low difficulty 8m heal is fine for first perk.

[boreal laurel]

Is anyone in here able to lend a hand with the Long Bomb penance? It's all I need for Veteran and I'm really struggling

[bitter grotto]

that punchthrough tho...

[boreal laurel]

Please?

[supple kindle]

Is there a way to know if you get like emperor rewards after a mission or is it totaly random ?

[north wolf]

What level is a good idea to start queuing malice?

[patent sapphire]

whenever there’s a long hallway with a horde charging at you toss your grenade 45-50 degrees in the air and pray

there’s not much more to it than that

end of the smelter mission and the bridge midway through the train station assassination mission i think are good candidates

[boreal laurel]

the issue is that I keep doing this and it never gets kills

[tight cedar]

10+ ideally

[patent sapphire]

what diff are you trying it on

[boreal laurel]

1 and 2

[patent sapphire]

are you seeing it explode in the air?

[boreal laurel]

I get to these points and my team just end up abandoning me

[boreal laurel]

yes

[bitter grotto]

grab accatran lasgun and shoot the nade mid-air

[sharp apex]

is there anywhere i can find a guide listing what the all the cryptic "stikedown" and various stuff actually does?

[boreal laurel]

is that a thing you can do?

[bitter grotto]

if you don't believe it can be shot to explode, go to psychanium, throw it vertically and then shoot it

[boreal laurel]

I didn't say I don't believe you, I was just saying that I didn't know this was a thing

[bitter grotto]

it was for possible sceptics, not you 😛 I know you didn't say anything like that

[sharp apex]

nvm, just checked pinned

[twilit bough]

almost done every single penance for sharpshooter just need to do a few more games and will have the last helmet

[boreal laurel]

all I need is long bomb and I'll have it

[rigid wasp]

I'm crying at 0 melee damage. Those random no step sound queues are killing me

[burnt pendant]

I wonder if opening salvo works on a semi-auto?

[waxen hemlock]

3% at max heat, or Per 1% of heat?

[worthy ore]

is warp battery still not completable on malice?

[winter obsidian]

Is anyone able assist me with malleus monstonum by any chance, would be greatly appreciated

[winter obsidian]

Nope

[worthy ore]

okok thanks, then ill do heresy 😄

[burnt pendant]

3% total on 99% heat, it should be. Which sounds abysmal. The psyker staves have something similar, based on peril, but that stacks 5 times. I have no idea how it stacks.

[waxen hemlock]

damn thats awful,
Thanks for saving my money

[burnt pendant]

Always a pleasure. 😛

[peak valve]

What do you guys think about the fire staff for Psykers? I'm not sure how good it is after some testing in the meatgrinder

[dry hollow]

is there a cap on item power lvl?

[drowsy lake]

Anyone got tip for doing Going Bowling?

[north wolf]

Why is that desert mission twice as hard as any other map??

[lost shard]

I love the fire staff. The meatgrinder doesn't show off its full potential

[peak valve]

@lost shard What do you mean?

[wet bloom]

I did not shoot a shot on malice but didint get the penance?

[spiral goblet]

Less straight up damage than voidstrike, but much wider cc. The burn damage stacks up and it's good horde clear. If you enjoy it, it's totally viable, particularly if you are running soulblaze perks.

[spiral kelp]

Is mistery box worth it?

[lost shard]

@peak valve It's a horde clearing beast and the flame staggers enemies. It works really well in conjunction with the feat that has a 10% chance to give you a warp charge on hit.

[spiral goblet]

Almost never.

[lost shard]

@peak valve Also, the soulblaze effect works extremely well to tell which enemies are dead and which are just kocked on the ground but still alive

[winter obsidian]

No, I always get greys

[waxen hemlock]

I thinks its good, but for a weird reason.
Im colorblind, and its super hard to see enemies sometimes since the color of their armor and the shadows makes them invisble pretty much
But, if they are glowing white, much easier.

[white saffron]

bruh, there is one more mission not showing up, i swear i got itnto a map i never finished, i see Vets with that helment im trying to get

[austere epoch]

which helmet?

[sage glacier]

is chainsword ok on psyker?

[white saffron]

for the achievement

[austere epoch]

On Target?

[lost shard]

@sage glacier I prefer the force sword. The special attack is more powerful than chain sword in most situations. Of course you might like the chainsword if you tend to struggle with armored enemies.

[white saffron]

im not on right now, its at the bottom on Vet's class achievements

[austere epoch]

i think they have one mission type that cycles daily

[winter obsidian]

Force sword with deflect blessing chefs kiss

[austere epoch]

for me it disruption

[signal prism]

Yeah there is one Mission that spawns just every few hours or days its the disturbance mission

[white saffron]

ya, why?!

[austere epoch]

ah there ya go

[white saffron]

i hope mission selector will be a thing on the 30th

[boreal quarry]

They take some out of rotation if there is an issue with it also

[signal prism]

IDK i played and waited for this mission to spaw for the whole day i think

it would be better for the Achievement to say which mission is missing instead of 6/7

[boreal quarry]

That I can get behind

[lost shard]

100%

[rustic python]

Anyone managed to get the penance where you kill the mutant while charging

Do I have to be charging or the mutant have to be charging

Because I’ve done it both ways and still haven’t gotten it

[austere epoch]

id just entered a mission otherwise id check

[lost shard]

I still need the damn penance to kill 20 enemies within 2 seconds by knocking them off a ledge on my Psyker so I can get that sweet sweet hood. Why are the psyker penances so much more tedious than all the other classes?

[chilly palm]

Both you and the mutant have to be charging and you need your melee to kill during (not after) your charge.

Special action your thunder hammer, hold a heavy, charge at a charging mutant and release early so your swing makes contact.

[rustic python]

Both of us charging damn alright that’s gonna be a bitch competing with the damn witches popping heads left and right even if you say in chat pls don’t

[boreal quarry]

Because you smell of heresy! (honestly some masochist designed them)

[rustic python]

Don’t have the thunder hammer yet. Rocking the evicerator

[spare cedar]

Anyone got a word of advice on getting on overwatch

[chilly palm]

Charged thunder hammer can 1 shot the mutant up to Malice when I tested it.

[rustic python]

Guess I’m waiting on thunder hammer

[rigid wasp]

0 melee damage on sharpshooter is as tedious my brother

[chilly palm]

So you don't need too much prep and a lot of luck that it's targeting someone else and you have enough time/space to charge.

I'd wait for level 30 so you can hold onto one charge all the time.

[rustic python]

Last time I went for it I released and it should have connected but it caught me out of my charge

Then threw me off the map

I damn near snapped my keyboard

[chilly palm]

It's very tough to swing early enough that your weapons hitbox kills the mutant before it grabs you.

You'll have to hope it's targeting someone else.

[boreal quarry]

The inquisition does not supply replacement keyboards

[chilly palm]

Just use your servo skull, hope you can read imperial.

[signal prism]

you have to repair and maintain them otherwise you will may die

[midnight aspen]

Consecrating only adds new perks, it doesn't mess with stats?

[rustic python]

The Cheeto dust improves response time I swear

[chilly palm]

Consecrates upgrades the quality which adds a new random perk and blessing if applicable.

[unborn jasper]

my first yellow

[halcyon solar]

Hi i have a question about the Mind over matter penance, i checked my mission types and I have compelted all 7 at least once ( investigation and espionage only once) but it still says 6/7, what am i missing?

[boreal quarry]

I wouldnt mind that on my Ogryn

[dense temple]

that looks great

[chilly palm]

Mission types, not maps.

[dense temple]

stam regen too

[unborn jasper]

it seems good right?

btw my missions for this week UH

[chilly palm]

You might have just not done an investigation or a disruption.

[unborn jasper]

yum

[dense temple]

whats disruption?

[dense temple]

Skip[

[unborn jasper]

right

[chilly palm]

It's in the "hourglass" map.

[halcyon solar]

ive done disruption as well

[boreal quarry]

The sandy outdoors map

[unborn jasper]

+580 tho

[halcyon solar]

but investigation and esp i've only done once

[unborn jasper]

I only chose grim + script missions for extra rewards

[dense temple]

There is no way to check what missions Ive done so far riht

[unborn jasper]

achievements maybe

[boreal quarry]

I'm waiting here with my ogryn tuxedo waiting for espionage to come back on

[unborn jasper]

but no i dont think so

[rustic python]

Any tips for finding scripture/grims? I know the grims glow green

[signal prism]

will there be an option to trade Plasteel against diamant?

[patent sapphire]

25 scriptures contract is free melkcoins

[boreal quarry]

no idea

[rustic python]

You say that but fuck the little bastards never appear I swear to god I scour the maps

[chilly palm]

Use a zealot w/ 2x charge. It'll feel better than falling behind while scouring every damn corner of the map.

[boreal quarry]

If a mission says it has scriptures it should have them, somewhere 🙂

[rustic python]

I haven’t even played other classes yet I’m just having fun with zealot cleaving through hoards of enemies and barely taking damage

[unborn jasper]

this

but ranged mobs

[patent sapphire]

i don’t think there’s ever more than one per drop down area

[unborn jasper]

make me quiver

[signal prism]

just look for the tiny boxes with paper in it

[unborn jasper]

YES

[radiant mulch]

I have found 2 in one area multiple times

[unborn jasper]

I am addicted to searching for diamond and scrap parts LOL

[chilly palm]

That's been my theory, one per segment upto each event.

[rustic python]

My brother in omnisiah, that’s what the glorious bolter is for

[patent sapphire]

hmmmm

maybe thats why i miss some sometimes

[radiant mulch]

I have noticed it is rare, but I have found 2 quite close to each other several times

[rustic python]

I did see to grims back to back once

[radiant mulch]

On the outdoor map earlier today, found 2 literally within 10m of each other

[chilly palm]

It's certainly possible without looking under the hood of game.

[rustic python]

Like opposite side of the same room

[unborn jasper]

do you guys play in groups or solo

[signal prism]

they can even be right at the beginning and behind trashcans or inside dead corpses

[unborn jasper]

quickplay

[radiant mulch]

Best bet is next time you find one, stop and listen to the sound it makes. Then listen for that and you'll find a lot more

[rustic python]

I made my friends get the game after I streamed it in discord for them

[chilly palm]

I hate looking around for a scripture and it's at the trash can just before the elevator.

Like thanks you bums.

Generally people will enjoy the gameplay and get sucked in by the WH40kisms.

[rustic python]

I hate when your mission is going completely sideways and in the middle of you fighting for your life someone picks up the grim

[crimson fable]

Yo, laspistol is so nice lol, no recoil at all, like the lasgun should always been

[rustic python]

Bro wait until the fight is over

[boreal quarry]

Heresy is a callin

[fringe wren]

Is this not on for the day? Yet to see it pop on the map

[chilly palm]

I'm annoyed zealot doesn't get recon lasgun. Like it's a good short range weapon.

[north wolf]

The meatgrinder only unlocking enemies with levels is beyond stupid.

[radiant mulch]

best is assassination mission on sewer map. Some asshat picks up the grim behind the ascender just before you push the button

[rustic python]

Every time

[chilly palm]

Honestly, playing a lot of grim runs in VT/VT2 gets you comfortable with relying on your defenses (block/pushing/dodging).

[radiant mulch]

shredder pistol is king lol

[rustic python]

As a zealot it doesn’t bother me too much because I can stay alive usually but it’s my team that’s the issue

[chilly palm]

Recon lasgun goes pew pew pew.

[radiant mulch]

shredder autopistol actually has collatoral. Much better imo

[chilly palm]

The smol spread of recon makes for excellent headshotting from the hip.

[sharp locust]

When the lights out is coming back? I need to kill that "witch"

[rustic python]

Bolter go BRRRR until you run out in 6 seconds

[uncut tangle]

Did they just remove the witch

[radiant mulch]

6 seconds?

[chilly palm]

I want a zealot-only bolter pistol, for style.

[uncut tangle]

Thought she was on every nap now?

[radiant mulch]

you mean 2.5? lol

[uncut tangle]

Map*

[delicate estuary]

What's the maximum weapon power score?

[rustic python]

I still love it tho bolter absolutely melts heavies and bosses

[chilly palm]

The witch is on lights out condition maps.

[radiant mulch]

I haven't seen it since yesterday afternoon

[mighty sierra]

how many dodges do we have untill we get the "bad dodges" and how long untill we get the good ones back?

[rustic python]

I haven’t even seen a lights out map

[radiant mulch]

500 I think

[uncut tangle]

She was also on the desert map with endless

[chilly palm]

It was around yesterday. Check the global conditions for the next change over.

[delicate estuary]

Do you know highest number by quality?

[dense temple]

the thunder gammer is go-

[lost shard]

I reroll these missions to either kill X mobs, monstrosities, scriptures/grims or mission completions.

[mighty sierra]

could be 600 with crafting maybe?

[chilly palm]

I definitely saw the witch in the torrent lights out.

[radiant mulch]

I'm not sure if there are restrictions like that. I've seen blue gear at 400+ so idk

[patent sapphire]

you can get more than 500

[radiant mulch]

o rlly? I must be hella unlucky then

[delicate estuary]

The point of my questions is I want to know what to upgrade

[patent sapphire]

speculation right now is that highest base is a 400 grey item and then with max value traits and blessings you can get a 560 orange

i haven’t seen anything higher than a ~360 grey

[fringe wren]

Did that now.. It gave me pick up 12 Scriptures and 15 mission completes

[radiant mulch]

what makes that the estimate? Has someone made a vid or article on it showing it?

[delicate estuary]

My blues at that level haha no they are 400 on average

[mighty sierra]

thats better than the do six side quests on this random map that doesnt spawn

[jolly quarry]

anyone know how corruption resist works? the grims one is self explanatory but does the "normal" one affect grims or just other sources?

[lost shard]

I love the 25 scripture missions and the 25 mission completion missions because they reward a ton of the limited shop currency

[fringe wren]

Yeah I agree, but I already had a 12 scripture one that I'm almost done with 🙃

[oak palm]

does trust raise weapon level in shops/

?

[north wolf]

Darktide crashed and won't start any more. lolwat.

[mighty sierra]

i believe all sources. Like getting eaten by the big slime thing

[radiant mulch]

it is based off the min and max amount of possible corruption. The game then subtracts the %

[fringe wren]

Check Task Manager for a process

[patent sapphire]

maximum amount of rating you can add to a grey weapon is 160 from traits and blessings, people have higher than 350 grey weapons so speculation is that it would cap at 400 and not something random like 367

[jolly quarry]

yes but does the non-grim one affect grims

[patent sapphire]

basically pure speculation at this point but sort of an educated guess

[radiant mulch]

makes sense.

I have 3 classes to 30 and barely see stuff above 400 lmao

[delicate estuary]

So it's unknown yet if we will be able to get any weapon to max stats by crafting, itsn't it?

[radiant mulch]

141 hours in the game atm and still have trash gear

[mighty sierra]

guys does anybody have the table about dodging? like when you stop doing good dodges and when you get it back?

[sharp locust]

So, the witch only spawn during light out and we dont know when light out is coming back, correct?

[patent sapphire]

afaik there’s no announced way to modify the stats of a weapon

[jolly quarry]

also got to take into account that some stats affect the same things with a cap of 100% with a potential of waste

[modest geode]

no just full hp. i had some corruption from boomer dmg and got it

[delicate estuary]

350 grey is high as hell. My greys are below 320

[austere epoch]

think i just grabbed one at 302

[north wolf]

Nothing there.

[fringe wren]

Reboot steam, should work then

[patent sapphire]

my highest grey is 358 but they usually drop in low 300s from the shop

[delicate estuary]

There isn't a system that increases item minimum powel level by acquiring more gear like in VT2, right?

[oak palm]

When will night maps come back? they are the best

[north wolf]

Nope. Nothing.

[sharp locust]

Thats what im looking for, i would like to know me too

[radiant mulch]

whenever people stop complaining about them

[cold tiger]

Patch today?

[austere epoch]

just do a full restart Urz

[radiant mulch]

supposed to be

[cold tiger]

Swag

[oak palm]

People shouldnt play night maps at low level then maybe people would stop complaining

[austere epoch]

^

[north wolf]

I can start the .exe file and the game starts (but obviously can't log in), but starting trough steam shows me as in the game, then shows me as not playing anything again without a game opening.

[jolly quarry]

does corruption resist affect grims too or is it only corruption resist (grims) that does it

[radiant mulch]

quit out of steam then make sure the client bootstrapper in your task manager is also closed. Then start steam

[north wolf]

There is a stat that is specifical grim corruption resist. So far I've found that it's not really worth it. I ran one once, and the slower corrupting buildup wasn't really notiecable.

I think it's also generally understood that picking grims up in general is not worth it right now.

[austere epoch]

yea grims kinda suck

[radiant mulch]

since there are 2 different modifiers it is assumed 1 affects corruption applied from enemies, and the other from grims

[sterile trout]

any heresy threat level players looking to unlock the every shot count penance? I need a group

whoops, wrong place

[jolly quarry]

i dont care if its "worth it" i need it for weeklies

[north wolf]

Same issue, doesn't even start the launcher.

[jolly quarry]

i assumed that too but thats not a definitive answer

[north wolf]

Reroll those.

[patent sapphire]

just do grim contracts on diff 2 or 3

[jolly quarry]

nah mate good payout

[patent sapphire]

idk not a big deal and they seem to be worth a decent chunk

[jolly quarry]

has nobody properly tested this? cant find anything online either

[cerulean pelican]

How should i be playing the bleed resist damage ogre? I feel my heavies are too slow most of the time, or they just outright kill stuff so i don't get bleed anway. I've used the gauntlet to melee stuff, but that feels too cumbersome on high difficulty

[patent sapphire]

i’ve got a 25 mission one so i figure i’ll have both scriptures and grims done well before then

[north wolf]

I just rerolled until I got something like this, and that seemed good enough.

[radiant mulch]

did you already verify game files?

[patent sapphire]

tbh rerolled the no player death ones because low payout but yeah that’s basically what i got

[north wolf]

I'm doing that now. I left it for last because it can easily take 15 minutes or so.

[rustic python]

I don’t use the bolter because I think it’s better I use the bolter because it’s satisfying

[jolly quarry]

bolter has its place but i think its better on *an anti-elite zealot, vets prolly better fill the role of killing lots of ranged enemies fast

[rustic python]

I misread I am a zealot main

Bolter go brrrrt

I really wanna like the flamer but like it just feels like I’m using ammo for almost no effect

[patent sapphire]

with the lasgun you are almost helpless against crushers but it’s very nice against everything else

[rustic python]

Whereas bolter is instant gratification

[jolly quarry]

flamer is great but makes you completely helpless at long range, where the bolter is still functional

[spiral kelp]

How many rolls can we try on cintracts?

[rustic python]

Yeah that’s the other reason I don’t like it

[hollow slate]

I find the flamer is instrumental in keeping the poxwalkers off your squad during big horde rushes. Helps a ton doing objectives to be able to hold an entire side/angle

[peak valve]

The flamer is awesome for horde clear. Anytime your group is surrounded and under pressure it's clutch

[jolly quarry]

thats what you got your zealots for

[broken galleon]

Not sure if there's a limit, but 1st one free then each next one costs more and more

[jolly quarry]

cause we are completely helpless against massed spread out ranged

[patent sapphire]

well

apparently you can’t reroll past the 7500 cost

so you get 3, maybe 4 tries?

[rustic python]

Bolter eats crushers for breakfast and so does my eviscirator with armor damage

[broken galleon]

I've had 22,500 cost rerolls though

[hollow slate]

My flamer has the stagger modifier on it plus the zealot multihit feat for impact let's me stagger pretty much all elites and specials

[jolly quarry]

yes, each can be rerolled 3 times which is why its a big gamble if the challenge wasnt really bad to begin with

[radiant mulch]

eviscerators with high shredder statline FUCKS

[patent sapphire]

must be an intermittent bug then

[broken galleon]

Dang I got fleeced :P

[rustic python]

My friend got the game like an hour ago and he was so happy with me MELTING armored bullshit

[jolly quarry]

eviscerator is the worst of the chain weapons for shredding, better get high damage+cleave and must have is savage sweep for +200% cleave on multihit

[broken galleon]

IMO the only really bad ones are "do 2ndary objectives on this specific mission"

[jolly quarry]

anything with less than 250 payout id also call pretty bad, unless youre limited on playtime since not hitting all 5 of them is worse than 5 low payout challenges

[spiral kelp]

Last week i was able tô reroll 3 or 4 times, its risky tô get stuck with a bad contract

[radiant mulch]

I mean "no", but okay

[rigid wasp]

what should i run as third ogryn perk? i like the idea of Lead the Charge, but Bullfighter just seems better

[jolly quarry]

shredder is only for the special attack, even with a high stat youre gonna take 4 of em for a crusher (without zealot charge) while the axe only takes 2, so definitely "yes"

[radiant mulch]

I've only ever needed 2 max, but aight

[unborn jasper]

is exp even useful after getting to 30?

[tired wagon]

Hope to get Just a Flesh Wound for Zealot today. Anyone wanna help?

[radiant mulch]

bullfighter is great, towering presence also good for pugging

[jolly quarry]

go to the meatgrinder on heresy and tell me you two shot the crusher with eviscerator special without zealot charge lmao

[rigid wasp]

pugging?

[radiant mulch]

playing with randos

[rigid wasp]

ohhh

nah i dont need those randoms

[jolly quarry]

you sir are a straight up liar

[rigid wasp]

just gonna tank and hope i dont die lmfao

[verbal vine]

Its when you kick a pug and see how far it goes

[unborn jasper]

time to go nuts

[boreal quarry]

Ogryn.. don't need littuns? commissar

[rigid wasp]

i need em to take down that sniper 40 meters away

my double cannon aint doin SHIT at that range

[verbal vine]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PuG

[rigid wasp]

hey thanks the other guy already defined it

[jolly quarry]

i can just about do it in 2 fully charged heavy special attacks to the head with the axe, meanwhile eviscerator takes at least 5

[verbal vine]

No worries i just looked it up for the lulz

[unborn jasper]

wow player slang

[verbal vine]

I had no idea it originated from wow

I first heard it playing halo 3 on xbl back in the day

[rigid wasp]

honestly i always just said pubbing cuz tf2

shoulda figured as much

[verbal vine]

Yeah i heard pubbing from LoL

[split breach]

Wait so there is a build calculator, does it have listed builds of other players? I would like to try and fix up my psyker build and hopeful do more in a team as psyker feels a bit behind when in my hands lol

[jolly quarry]

not sure what youre talking about but to me most important was a way to keep stacks up, warp res scaling with stacks and a staff with good stats

[split breach]

I was wondering if peril presist was any good

I never really noticed when I took the talent and had some perks, but im also bad lol

I noticed that keeping stacks was useful a bit so I took the talents that gove 4% chance of gaining a stack on kill in coherency, as well as the feat that gives a 10% chance to brain burst enemies

[hollow slate]

Think this eviscartor rolled out ok? Or should i be trying to boost up a high level grey one?

[split breach]

Is there a specific build for psykers that out performs others on heresy+?

[limpid ice]

adding thoughness on multi hit would have been perfect

[jolly quarry]

i adore savage sweep on eviscerator but apart from not having that its pretty neat

[split breach]

Is that the first talent tree for psyker?

[limpid ice]

• talent yes

[split breach]

Oh I see okay

Thanks

[jolly quarry]

flak and unyielding is great, rampage is great, bloodletter is meh unless you go for bleed crit build

[split breach]

So I should put that perk on my melee?

[limpid ice]

if you get the chance

[split breach]

Gotcha, thanks. Also on that note, are force swords good?

[limpid ice]

the difference it notiable

yes

but power swords are the best (typo)

[craggy solar]

force sword attack chains might struggle a bit with hordes

but great for single target

[fathom bay]

Is soulblaze different from the staff flames?

[craggy solar]

soulblaze is basically warp dot

so from some feats and and flamethrower staff I think

[fathom bay]

Flamethrower staff is also soulblaze?

[quartz sluice]

hi any psyker with helmet can tell me how to get it with only 5 mission types available?

[craggy solar]

I think so ye

[hollow slate]

yea i agree that 175% cleave is insane. I was hoping the bleed on hit could use the bloodletting skill

[shell cedar]

Has anyone noticed that poxbusters....u can shove them as they leap towards u and they will explode safety beyond the blast radius??....granted that non of ur teammates are shooting at it while it leaps

[fathom bay]

Hit level 30 and buy one. Otherwise you have to wait for the cycle to go back around. Its annoying 😤

[quartz sluice]

so only way to get one is buy one?

[fathom bay]

Yes! People need to do that more😂

[fathom bay]

Right now without waiting a day or two yes

[hollow slate]

aha yea thats the trouble. I charge them as zealot to shove and the veteran just blows it up in my face

[shell cedar]

Somehow Fat shark doesn't tell us that. I found that out quite recently

[jolly quarry]

sadly bleed last sooo friggin short you wont be able to stack it with just crits 90% of the time

[quartz sluice]

aaah so missions cycle? (only playing sincee saturday)

[fathom bay]

Correct. I personally hate that system. I prefer the choice of difficulty and map on my terms so that I don’t have to wait like Vermintide did.

[quartz sluice]

thanks mate !

[fathom bay]

Np!

[tired crown]

You can't buy one unless you've unlocked it via penances. The only helmets in the shop are skins for helmets you already have 😦

[limpid ice]

im debating if i should invest in this weapon cause of the burn stack but how do i crit with this?

[craggy solar]

crits are random

[limpid ice]

i feel lasgun recon would suit better

[craggy solar]

yeah faster shooting lasguns work better for it

[tired crown]

If you're looking to go for the super strong infernus builds floating around you'll need a recon lasgun, the Kantrael with burn is good but not stupid strong like a lot of videos show

[limpid ice]

ofc its random but i have skils and other perks that give me a solid %

[craggy solar]

I think out of the normal lasgun family this one is the worst to have it on since slowest firing

[tired crown]

It's the high rate of fire on a recon lasgun with torrent that makes them so strong, you use the perk that gives +25% crit chance when aiming down sights and stack burn really quickly.

[limpid ice]

okay i was thinking kinda the same thank you been looking for a perk like this the last wef days... first time i got it

[alpine flicker]

Best weapons for Ogryn?

[limpid ice]

but thats for vet onnly

want it on my zealot

[tired crown]

If you find a decent grey recon lasgun you can upgrade it and hope for the infernus blessing! That gives more chances to find one.

[tame turtle]

any talks of shared inventory? need to know whether to refund or not

[hollow slate]

lol

[spiral kelp]

Best psyck staff for heresy and beyond

[tired crown]

Lightning staff for crowd control is super useful

[tame turtle]

voidstrike for fun and lightning for meta

[tired crown]

Lock down enemy ranged units as long as you can get close, and yeah void strike is a blast plus it clears hordes like nobody's business. It also does okay stagger to specials.

[pale musk]

guys is the lvl 30 vet feat coutnerfire still bugged?

[hoary oyster]

Yes

[tired crown]

It was as of last night, yeah

[pale musk]

preach ty

[rapid ermine]

As a 100% "solo queue" zealot (no friends). Would it be better to rock flamer/shotty for extra short range power or grab something like laz rifle or bolter to not be useless vs snipers and such?

[verbal vine]

Bolter 100%

[worn relic]

bolter

[tired crown]

Probably the latter if you don't want to rely on others

[quartz sluice]

thanks

[tired crown]

Sure, sorry to be the bearer of bad news

[rapid ermine]

Been loving the shotty/flamer gameplay but lately have been running in to situtation where a sniper out of my reach is 110% shutting me down and making me essentially a dead weight for a while

[limpid ice]

i took a RNG chance oof

[verbal vine]

Flamer is useless at long range and against minibosses, you become a liability to yourself for taking it when you dont have reliable teammates

[tired crown]

I thought flamer was really strong vs monstrosities?

(never played zealot fwiw)

[limpid ice]

no but anything else will stagger and then die slowly

[rapid stone]

Is there a guide to what enemies are named?

[verbal vine]

Everytime ive tried shooting a monstrosity with a flamer it just ignores it and hits me

[rapid ermine]

Anything not out of reach gets pretty much wtfpwnd by the charge -> rev up big chainsword -> purge the heretic combo. Flamer is super good at CCing a horde or 5 at the same time

[rapid stone]

What counts as monster?

[verbal vine]

Sure it does damage but you cant just sit there

[tired crown]

Plague ogryn and nurgle slug

[limpid ice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z2pn4t/enemy_breed_armour_types_and_locational_damage/

[tired crown]

And daemonhost, I think

[verbal vine]

Daemonhost as well

[tired crown]

Such a good post, thanks for linking it!

[rapid ermine]

I just show those "mini bosses" the eviscrator due to it absolute shitting on anything that thinks it can continue with its herecy within my presence

[spiral kelp]

What are The Best perks for lightining staff?

[limpid ice]

donbt forget to go through all the images ez to miss

[random shore]

Why can't I upgrade my Thunder Hammer with Hadron ? Is this a loophole or a glitch ?

[tired crown]

They're broken right now

[limpid ice]

bugged same here

[random shore]

Ouch