gameplay-help

[stuck ridge]

Like, when there's 2 or 3 Mutants and a horde, it's brutal

[visual jacinth]

Ogryn wish he could be on all missions to elp with muties

[stuck ridge]

Counterfire is supposed to work against all types of highlighted enemies, but it's broken and non-functional right now

[half lily]

Damn sounds good what do you guys think ?

[stuck ridge]

Nogryn :(

I want my Ogryn friends

[thin nymph]

Ogryn question: I can't seem to find a good reason to really swing around the battle maul and slab shield. It seems like there's no excuse to not have "Blood and Thunder" and "Bloodthirst" feats just melee with the grenade fist instead. Am I missing something, is there a situation where shield/mace meleeing is better?

[lime imp]

Best thing for muties is a psyker lighting staff

[strange spear]

ah opkay, thanks

[lime imp]

They never get to do anything

[visual jacinth]

You see zugzug you make sure to let him know you want big ogryn tower of protection

[edgy loom]

Is there some sort of timer in between Espionage maps? I saw a tier 5 earlier but none since then

[stuck ridge]

I always really appreciate when an Ogryn player is on the team.

[visual jacinth]

us ogryn will die for lil uns. Boss appy means bigger guns and more rations

[reef pulsar]

how good is this one ? im not sure if the two blessing work good with each other

[visual jacinth]

Well you have two perks working against each other here but that first perk is godlike

[patent sapphire]

limbsplitter does not seem good

[spiral vault]

anyone know any tips for the deadeye penance for vet?

[silver ridge]

does the scab shooters from counterfire count for deadeye?

[visual jacinth]

Nah, it's basically your first attack in your heavy or quick attack swimg combo gets the dmg boost and the rest is nerfed by 20%

I don't know if power actually contributes to dmg either

[reef pulsar]

but doesnt the first hit give also a 15% buff ? so only -5% and then the next one +15% again ?

[visual jacinth]

Yeah that's what I'm getting at the perks are fighting each other.

You could buy it and wait to reroll it in the future

[reef pulsar]

i already got it

[visual jacinth]

There you go

https://tenor.com/view/40k-gif-21394152

[reef pulsar]

i got the limbsplitter with upgrading it

[thorn imp]

is there a way to tell which mission types im missing for the penance?

[visual jacinth]

Not that I'm aware of and it irks me.

[verbal arrow]

Is the Investigation mission type gone for now? Its the last one I need for my helmet on Veteran :C

[thorn imp]

how do you know?!

[verbal arrow]

I did every other type

[visual jacinth]

Investigation is still in cycle

[verbal arrow]

Mh, past 6 hours I haven't seen it

[visual jacinth]

Now you have a lot more mission types to roll so it's harder to come by

[cursive torrent]

alright, seriously are mission rewards bugged? i havent gotten one since like the 3rd day of the beta.

[final depot]

Kill X dregs, Scabs etc, are those team bound or personal?

[thorn imp]

@bitter condor doesnt like you i think

[verbal arrow]

They aren't at the moment but I feel like they should be, I got my ''750 scab melee kills' while running with my boltgun yesterday night

I was not actively shooting when I got it

[cursive torrent]

idk... i feel like this goes beyond RNG. its been at least 80 missions since ive gotten anything. basically once i hit 30 its been dry

[final depot]

yeah thats painful

[tired crown]

I've gotten two since I hit 30 on my veteran on the second day of the beta. It's not very generous, it seems.

They were both grey weapons I don't like, too. Fwiw ^ ^

[cursive torrent]

yeah i got like 10 of them when leveling up but literally none since then

[tired crown]

I hope that mechanic is just a placeholder, even lower quality weapons have their uses if we can get them

[nova vapor]

does anyone know why i cant get a investigation mission to spawn?

[cursive torrent]

they just arent in the rotation right now

[tired crown]

Just unfortunate luck, it's random when they spawn.

I haven't seen them for a few days either, tbh

[signal flare]

Hammers arent upgradable ?

[tired crown]

No, they're currently bugged.

[signal flare]

big sad

[visual jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/criticalbard-wah-waluigi-funny-gif-19025571

[wooden sigil]

what exactly does the activate on power sword do?
is it just intrinsic ignore enemy mass and max cleave?

[rain dew]

it has infinite cleave on its charged heavies which is really nice, and it staggers everything. the only problem is that it does no damage whatsoever, so you're entirely dependent on your team to kill basically anything that isn't a dreg.

a lot of people will try to bully you into running one but i'd suggest you resist and learn how to chain dodges to avoid ranged attacks like everyone else. people will undoubtedly complain about how they can't cheese missions by standing behind you and spamming flamers to clear every room, but that's their problem

[bitter summit]

does this mean I do 50% more damage to weak spots?

[craggy solar]

on crits

crits that hit weak spots deal 50% more dmg

[bitter summit]

aha so it should be paired with a +critical% blessing?

[craggy solar]

yeah that would pair well with it

[lavish goblet]

question for everyone, is anyone else having issues with plasteel?

[azure cove]

I don't understand the boltgun. I just ran a malice with it and it was hell. High damage is literally the only thing it has going for it, was able to 1shot some elites and tear down a couple of mutants. After that it has almost no ammo and is wildly inaccurate. Couldn't hit a shotgunner with ADS at midrange cos the shots just went everywhere else but my ironsight. Didn't even work that much as a horde clearer because it fires so slowly even in FA hipfire, and I just ended up getting staggerstunned down once.

[proud jungle]

Does ogryn really get no new weapons past like level 17?

[lavish goblet]

what the frag

[bitter summit]

what difficulty do you play on?

[lavish goblet]

4 and 5

[safe fern]

i beat a malice mission with only my sword and Up Close And Personal Penance didnt unlock. what gives?

[bitter summit]

hmm

[whole nebula]

hands hurt

[spiral vault]

For deadeye

do scab shooters count? if u have counterfire?

or is it only specials?

[stuck ridge]

I really don't like On Overwatch :(

[stuck ridge]

They should but Counterfire doesn't work right now

[spiral vault]

wdym it doesnt work

[bitter summit]

do you think it's one of the better blessings or is it weak in general? this is on an Autogun

[hollow shuttle]

im sure its already been asked, but is investigation missions disabled atm?

[whole nebula]

play some heresy, you get very used to just not allowing melee to take place

[craggy solar]

depends on how it works in the end cuz what it says and how it actually works might be two different things lol

[stuck ridge]

What weapon do you recommend for it then?

[whole nebula]

make sure you've got a top tier power sword for hordes, then a panic gun, which for me was pic related

[bitter summit]

I guess I'll have to try it out once we get access to the full crafting system!

[craggy solar]

yeah

[odd badger]

what are wounds?

[stuck ridge]

Wounds divide your healthbar into sections. You lose a wound every time you go down.

So buffing your number of wounds is very useful

[odd badger]

thanks

[open lake]

how do i get good?

[thin nymph]

Well my problem is actually that I WANT to play with mace and shield more on top of using it for cover, but it seems just completely suboptimal compared to even just swinging the grenade fist around with the bleed feat. I guess crowd control is a good reason, though so far the grenade fist doesn't feel that much worse at it to justify losing the quick bleed+damage reduction.

[odd badger]

i see

[spiral vault]

did you use counterfire for deadeye? its literally the only penance i have left for vet rn lmfao

[stuck ridge]

Gonna have to be more specific than that haha. But ah, getting good at snapshotting heads will get you pretty far with all of the classes

[cursive torrent]

i dont know if its infinite cleave, but in a nutshell, yes. i think its more complicated than that though. ive noticed that it seems to almost give the sword a temporary buff of cleave that you can burn through or sustain depending on how you use it.

[odd badger]

best ogryn weapons and why? my fav so far is the cleaver knife and the stabby bolter

[stuck ridge]

Second thing to do to "Git Gud" is learn when to Dodge, Block, and Push. With the right weapons, you can really wreck house on a horde.

Dueling Sabre my beloved

[whole nebula]

yeah, though it felt like I shot six enemies when I did it? idk, some were deffo regular gun bois, though it was just a perfect situation that came up, I'd just play heresy as normal, and your chance will arrive

[rain dew]

mk3 and mk6 are the only good melee weapons. grenade gauntlet, thumper and ripper gun are all good imo

[open lake]

I play psycher and in difficulty 5 i keep getting chipped at by random grunts. no amount of blocking, pushing, or general flame throwing helps me

[stuck ridge]

I haven't been able to get Deadeye with Counterfire because I don't think Counterfire is working at all.

[odd badger]

thanks for reply

[stuck ridge]

Like, it highlights Scab Shooters, but it doesn't reset duration on kills and they don't seem to count

[silver ridge]

i think the reset doesnt work but they still count because im up to 4/5 for deadeye

[rain dew]

grenade gauntlet lets you snipe specials/gunners/etc, thumper gives you more horde clear and ripper gun is good for both but way mroe taxing on ammo. i normally run the grenade gauntlet in pubs and the thumper if i trust my team enough to kill specials

[bleak maple]

quick play in my region is bugged , all i get is bot in lobby , is there a way i can check my ping?

[thorn imp]

fav wpn for zealot. GO

[rain dew]

if you aren't axepilled on zealot don't talk to me

[stuck ridge]

For Psyker, my best recommendation is:

Stack Warp Charge through your Brain Burst at Range, then use a fast, light weapon with a predictable pattern to shred hordes when they get close. Also, don't feel obligated to take a staff, guns are decent at those levels as well.

The Dueling Sabre really is Bae.

[odd badger]

ye i have been thinking on trying the grenade launcher

looks way more easy and powerful

[rain dew]

axe on zealot is honestly such an insanely good weapon, i'm surprised more people don't use it

[stuck ridge]

Which axe?

[rain dew]

the one where you spam overhead charged attacks like you're here to execute french nobility

[stuck ridge]

Atrox tactical?

[robust pebble]

Can someone confirm for me that the weapon rating actually affects its stats outside of what the bars are telling you? On paper, the purple should be better than the orange, but the orange is performing far better than the purple in Heresy.

I know it was like that in VT2.

[rain dew]

probably? Idk the name off of the top of my head

[stuck ridge]

Rating is an aggregate of Stats, Perks, and Blessings

[robust pebble]

So yes then.

[stuck ridge]

Ye. It is generally better to have a hivher rating weapon, but not always

[patent sapphire]

take it into meat grinder and compare damage

[rapid ermine]

Am i delusional or is Ghost really fucking strong?

[robust pebble]

I did take into meat grinder and even there the numbers were barely worth the difference even with the crit chance on it

Which is why I'm questioning the rating

[dense temple]

Need some serious help. I just got this achievement without focussing on it, but now that I got it I REALLY want to secure the 15 winstreak one.
Where can I find some very solid players to help me out with this?
Also, what counts as "without being downed"?? Surely getting dogged/netted doesnt reset progress?

[shrewd pendant]

How come I keep getting backend error when trying to create a 3rd character? are there only 2 characters allowed? Anyone know of any issues that would cause this?

[patent sapphire]

also why are you saying on paper the purple should be better?

[little coyote]

does the name have dirty words in it

[robust pebble]

Stats and it's built towards more crit damage, which on a veteran is what you're putting out with the right feats

Veteran can be built as a crit machine

But as I've said, using the orange in Heresy has been far better than the purple

[patent sapphire]

how often are you actually critting with the purple vs the orange

[robust pebble]

As long as I have stamina, every two or three shots

[cursive torrent]

that 13% power on opening salvo is huge for the mg12, and unarmored targets are common as hell also, so the +20% on that is pretty decent too. the actual bars dont actually accound for a huge amount. i think a full bar only does 50% more damage than an empty one, and the diffference isnt very big between those two guns.

[full idol]

what is impact?

[patent sapphire]

i guess it’s not obvious to me that the purple is on paper better so

[robust pebble]

So you think the orange is just flat better than the purple? I don't want to blow crafting mats on it, even if it's got the potential to get 'Deadly Accurate' if I'm lucky on the roll

[cursive torrent]

honestly, yeah pretty much. in general i dont think crit builds are really a powerhouse for the mg12 in the first place. its not reliable enough for a powerful single shot gun. you achieve crit "reliability" through volume of fire in this game, i think. which is why Infernus Accatrans are so good.

not that that mg12 is even a great one, either, tbh

[velvet dagger]

So, quick question about these two, one says High Damage whereas the other says Versatile. Are they both considered the same damage or does the purple one actually have a higher innate damage even though the bar is the same?

[robust pebble]

Purple has armour piercing, blue does not. Test them in the meat grinder and shoot armoured targets

[velvet dagger]

Oooooh, okay, that's good to know

[patent sapphire]

they are also two different model weapons so i dont think you can directly compare their bars

[lime imp]

Also the dmg bar is specific to diff weps of the exact same type yea

[velvet dagger]

That's what I was curious about and wondered if anyone could clarify with it

I've been using the purple one and it's quite powerful, but wondered if I should use the blue one, but yeah i'll give it a test in the meat grinder

[dusty cypress]

Can someone explain how "Shock & Awe" works, because I'm not sure I understand how it works based on how it's worded.

[rich smelt]

Anyone has a picture of that Daemon boss thing?

[untold phoenix]

Can the Zealot get the power sword? I haven't seen anyone save Vets use it

[rich smelt]

Nope

[untold phoenix]

the Daemonhost?

[untold phoenix]

Shame

[full shell]

Got it from google, you can also search for videos

[raw sage]

What exactly does a Salvo count as when firing?

[rich smelt]

WTF It wasn't a female? With a lot of green on the screen?

[untold phoenix]

That is just art

Not a screenshot

[untold phoenix]

The in-game one has bigger horns and is female

[rich smelt]

This thing appeared to me like 4 times in the same map

[raw sage]

Like, does a Salvo count as pressing and holding fire key? Or is there a timer?

[untold phoenix]

Sometimes

[untold phoenix]

That's supposed to happen

Avoid if you can

[rich smelt]

On any map or that one with lights out?

[rose lily]

best mission to do make every shot count?

[hard goblet]

From my in game testing, there appears to be a window of roughly 1 second where if you fire again within that window it counts as part of the same salvo.

[untold phoenix]

Any map during the no light event I think

[rich smelt]

ahh perfect

[untold phoenix]

Even if the map itself has lights

[rich smelt]

That event just ends so fast

[raw sage]

Got it, thank you!

[untold phoenix]

I did the outside desert one and found the Host so it's not light sensitive it would seem

[grave raven]

man i wanna do this challenge to not take damage but i suck 😦

[untold phoenix]

With determination and time you will succeed

[dense temple]

Are there any solid players here that want to do me a solid and help me secure the last part of this achievement?

Not having a lot of success finding ppl on the LFG channel

[hot falcon]

yo guys - is this a thing one should buy? this seems pretty good

[oblique plank]

hey guys how do you sell stuff in this game?

[untold phoenix]

Go into your inventory and hold x on an item

It will be sold

[oblique plank]

ok i will try thanks

worked thanks

[dire ridge]

lmaoo me and my teammate started data interrogation at the same time and we were doing it coop

[ornate compass]

Looks pretty good to me. I’d take it and that’s coming from someone who can hardly pry themselves from their power sword.

[hot falcon]

what does "power" signify anyways, do you know?

[tacit fern]

Are there new missions yet? So you can do the 7 different mission-types penance. I've been moving to a house for the past few days and havent been able to play or keep up with updates.

[ebon fjord]

yes you can if the rng pool is with u

[rustic sky]

6th mission type repair came out a few days ago

i dunno about the 7th

[tacit fern]

Oh yeah 6 different types. Cheers!

[hot falcon]

you need flash missions still, probably comes out at release or something

[tacit fern]

Oh is it 7 mission-types? For the.penance?

[mystic haven]

are there red quality weapons or will there be in the release version? or is legendary the highest rarity?

[hot falcon]

yea, if you want the headpiece unfortunately

[sterile gate]

Is there a trick to the bolter I'm missing? It hits like a truck, no doubt, but it feels like such a pain in the ass to aim 😐

[tacit fern]

Dang ok

[hot falcon]

its just a few days away tho, all good ^^

[ornate compass]

The item levels of all your gear combined calculates the total of your power level. The higher your power level, the higher the chances you’ll stagger enemies and generally do more damage. That trait is very good.

[ebon fjord]

i'v seen someone with the second psyker's headpiece so ... just be lucky

[hot falcon]

hmm, interesting - i bought it! 🙂

lets see if it can drag me away from my chainsaw ^^

[ornate compass]

Headtaker, I could take it or leave it. Maybe see about swapping that out for something that can cause rending if you can later.

[hot falcon]

makes sense

[ornate compass]

Rending is very good.

[hot falcon]

since its just a 3.5s buff

[tacit fern]

Haha yeah.. I'll probably be done moving by then

[ebon fjord]

any tips for the "going with a bang" pennance of psyker ?

[dire ridge]

pretty sure flash is a modifier, not a mission type

[rustic sky]

do it on heresy, i did it by accident there.

cause so many specials and elites will pop up

[ebon fjord]

mhh ok so i will try .. never done it so far and i play heresie :(

[nimble orchid]

What are considered elite enemies?

[rustic sky]

try a mission that has the horde tag on it

[ebon fjord]

mauler rager everything that are not "special" ( doggo and such )

[ebon fjord]

k thanks :)

[nimble orchid]

Do squads and gunners count?

Trying to see if the Ogryn 15 perk for bullrush CD reduction is worth it

[ebon fjord]

gunner with machinegun yes , regular gunner , no

[rustic sky]

yeah they are classified as elites I believe

[dusk hemlock]

why i complete 6 mission in penances and mind over matter still tell me only complete 5

what happen

[amber cosmos]

Is this good for the Ogryn?

[heavy shuttle]

Depending on your veteran's feats, you may see yellow outlines of ranged common enemies as well.

[bleak maple]

quick play in my region is bugged , all i get is bots in lobby , is there a way i can check my ping?

[heavy shuttle]

The text for that feat 'Bio-Optic Targeting' reads elites/specialists but with the 'Counterfire' feat, the veteran can highlight ranged common enemies. Not taggable however and probably outside the scope of the question.

Cross-class synergy begins with information share though. 😄

[small prairie]

anyone know why im hearing people are playing dark maps but my map is only endless hordes?

[shell cedar]

RIP...i lost my prison garb

[normal tendon]

It’s good but I wouldn’t buy it

Like it’s fine but not amazing

[shell cedar]

now i cant be a 30 smurf wearing prisoner garb

[thorn imp]

anybody else not able to consecrate?

[whole nebula]

if its hammer its known about

[thorn imp]

ok ty. it is hammer

[heavy shuttle]

So much for that 2nd perk consecration 😠

[fading forge]

Hab Dreyko out of rotation again? need the mission type

[lucid cape]

:c anyone now hot to fix backend error with out using vpn

[shut oyster]

I need help choosing a female Zealot voice

Which one is fun?

[heavy shuttle]

The 'fanatic' I think? Cracks me up everytime.

[shut oyster]

Alright, thanks!

[shell cedar]

arghhhh why do people keep rushing and aggroing everything before clearing stuff out

[mellow sage]

does kneeling increase stability ?

[signal cipher]

That's the border line Khorne one isn't it?

[shut crown]

anyone knows how to get the "Make every shot count" penance done?

[untold phoenix]

Don't think so but the placebo effect sure helps

[signal cipher]

Make every shot count, aka hit all your shots

[shell cedar]

dont miss any shots....at least trying to get it the proper way

[shut oyster]

Thatst he five headshot one , right?

[untold phoenix]

And run out of ammo doing it

[signal cipher]

That's deadeye

[shell cedar]

no..its 100% accuracy with 0 ammo left

[shut oyster]

ah

[shut crown]

thing is

[shell cedar]

you can cheese if you want

[shut crown]

Sharpshooter's aura give you ammo whenever an elite dies

so it kinda never ends

[shell cedar]

yep...thats why its a challenge

[untold phoenix]

Lmao yeah that's what makes it so hard

[signal cipher]

Jokes aside join the plasma gun Club

[untold phoenix]

Good idea actually

[shell cedar]

if not i'll just find a crusher and dump all my ammo...and not take any ammos

[signal cipher]

Ok but plasma gun supremacy

[shell cedar]

you can see a bunch of veterans trying to cheese that penance when they run revolvers

[shut crown]

revolver sounds like the most sensible way

[shell cedar]

very rare....people choose revolvers as their main gun

[signal cipher]

Which is a shame I love the quickdraw

[shell cedar]

its easier because revolvers have little ammo pool

[patent sapphire]

i mean, fuck doing that penance with a lasgun

[shut crown]

yeah

[hoary sparrow]

revolver need some help, the gun is a good head popper

but.. the rest is bad xD

[shell cedar]

shotgun may be a good one too since you dont have to aim that much

[heavy shuttle]

I think so.

[shell cedar]

but still be wary of revolver veterans trying that penance...lolol

[shut crown]

its kinda hard alltogether. You already play at Heresy difficoulty, plus now your sharpshooter wont be shooting for most of the game

[signal cipher]

Unless you use a plasma gun

[shell cedar]

exactly

[signal cipher]

It's a personal fuck you to a target it's amazing

[hoary sparrow]

"personal fuck you"

xD

[shell cedar]

ehh...unless you headshot revolvers dmg is bad

i emptied the clip on a mutant and he didnt die

lol

[heavy shuttle]

The penance is doable for the team if you have two veterans on the team. One can pick up the ranged killing, the other brings a dedicated power sword to bear which is... very strong.

[shell cedar]

or you can just cheese that penance

LOL

[nova cipher]

Where did you guys get cliffhanger? I've been trying on the bridge in Chasm Logistratum, endless horde, but there's never a horde to do it, it seems

[shell cedar]

the metalfab is a good place

[mint jackal]

does the power go off randomly or does it appear as a special condition?

[shell cedar]

at the finale

[old phoenix]

Easiest mission to do it on is the final stand of the espionage mission, which seems to have been removed currently

[shell cedar]

I did mine on the smelter complex during the finale

[hot falcon]

pretty sure if you wait long enough a horde will spawn eventually

[shrewd pendant]

which ogryn voice lines call the veteran bossman instead of sah?

[heavy shuttle]

Don't diss the 'sah' 😦

[shrewd pendant]

i chose brawler because i thought he would say bossman wtf

[urban viper]

been trying to do that on chasm logistratum beginning but failing due to randoms

[old phoenix]

I've only heard bossman when you revive an ogryn

[summer cloud]

Why there are no espionage maps available?

[shrewd pendant]

im about to reroll my ogryn to something else, are you saying they all say Sah?

[shell cedar]

UGHHHH endless horde malice makes me so mad at randoms....but that dopamine when you get to group with good folks

[rigid wasp]

Anyone else wish we had the option for p2p servers like vermintide, a lot of the time the quality of the servers is actually worse than p2p, especially for hit detection etc.

[old phoenix]

I can only hope they're tweaking the mode because some now missions will release tomorrow

[green cipher]

Is Espionage still enabled as a mission time? Friend's last penance requires it and we haven't seen one in a hot minute

[hollow wharf]

For the warp battery penance does it have to be 300s overall or 300s strait

[old phoenix]

Not currently it seems

[summer cloud]

espionage is the last mission to get the hat for me 😦

[old phoenix]

Which is dumb because there are 12 mission slots on the board.
There should be 7 permanently locked to each mission type and then 5 that rotate

So we don't end up with 7 strike missions up at once

[amber dock]

Anyone got some good tips for pushing the 20 enemies by knocking them off as a Psyker? Either its not enough enemies or the rest of the random team just melts everything before I can :/

[rich smelt]

After the game I played, I definetly need a report button

[worldly flame]

is there a way to auto mute game when tabbed?

[sterile gate]

Which recon lasgun works best at higher difficulties?

[old phoenix]

Recon for hordes, the heavy hitting mark for specials

[winter obsidian]

300 straight

[hollow wharf]

how?

[sterile gate]

Right but like, which variation? The one that gives up stopping power for rate of fire, the base model, etc?

[cursive torrent]

Whatever one has Infernus, basically.

[winter obsidian]

Just keep popping heads with brain blast until you get the achievement

[cursive torrent]

But yeah the brown one does melt elites pretty good

[old phoenix]

Sorry mis read the question, the recon las is only really good for hordes, you need the regular lasgun for bosses

[hollow wharf]

but dont you die if you use another ability at 100?

[rare magnet]

Are Force Staves/Brain Burst considered ranged?

[winter obsidian]

Just cool down between blasts, each warp charge lasts for a good few seconds

[hollow wharf]

Is there a difference between 100% and max charges?

[rugged wigeon]

?/10?

[opaque fable]

warp charges and peril % are two different things

[winter obsidian]

Yes, one is your peril, the other is your warp charge

[hollow wharf]

oh ok I think I see are the charges at hte bottom of the UI?

[winter obsidian]

It’s a little icon bottom of your screen that looks like a screaming face

[opaque fable]

yes

[sterile gate]

Oh also, whats considered the best blessing for the Eviscerator?

Cleave? Power?

[timid kestrel]

anyone else having issues getting the game to go fullscreen?

[ebon fjord]

seeking 3 brave reject to help me with " going with a bang" penance , on heresy :)

[winter obsidian]

Me too so I’m in

[final depot]

HMM

i know heavy swords are not as great

but like

🤔

1595 is a bit expensive tho

[still vector]

that's less than 2600, nice deal

[cursive torrent]

So breakdown:

First off. They are all amazing with Infernus. That one thing is the biggest thing.

The fast blue one is really really good with it, though. It’s better at dealing with weak enemies, and without the right perks and blessings for it, it will struggle against elites.

The brown one is a batter all rounder. It doesn’t deal with hordes quite as good, but it is genuinely an elite melting machine regardless.

The green on is kind of a middle ground. It does boast a pretty outrageous ammo efficiency.

[still vector]

but I aint wasting weekly dollars on anything less than 400 power

[shrewd pendant]

anyone know which ogryn personality calls the veterans "bossman" instead of "sah"?

[final depot]

you can just upgrade it right?

[shrewd pendant]

This is very crucial to my ogryn and I need to recreate him since he keeps saying "sah" right now

[final depot]

cause, the level is only indicative of the bars

[cursive torrent]

Don’t fucking spend your weekly money before you are level 30. It’s a trap.

[final depot]

lmao

[cursive torrent]

Thank me later.

[final depot]

im aware of the increase via level

[cursive torrent]

You cannot upgrade it later.

[final depot]

my psyker and ogryn are both 30

[cursive torrent]

Then why are you even considering it? You should know damn well that 333 is really low for a mastercraft item.

That’s a full ~150 points of bars that you’ll never get out of that weapon.

[alpine flicker]

Hello!
Recommend me weapons to level up as Sharpshooter, please?
I have a really hard time hitting with laser rifles,
Perhaps sharpshooter is not for me at all?

[hoary sparrow]

Any team can help me, any Heresy difficulty mission except Assassination
(sorry if this is wrong place to ask this, idk where to ask yet)

[final depot]

because i dont really care about the levels at this point

[tired crown]

I can if you don't mind waiting a bit

[hoary sparrow]

sure thing!

[slow fog]

Thoughts on level 10 talent for vet?

They all seem good

[tired crown]

It kind of depends on your playstyle

That's the grenade Regen / more damage at range tree, right?

[cursive torrent]

Then get it I guess. It’s not even very good though, and you’ll kick yourself when you see some 3000 coin god weapon roll through the ship next week.

[final depot]

jeez i see the 'god roll' gang is in this game already

[tired crown]

If you're using bolter, tactical reload really helps. If using a lasgun for taking out enemy shooters, more damage helps since you'll try to keep your distance.

[knotty stratus]

anyone grinding out psyker cliffhanger penance?

[lapis raven]

infinite grenades are pretty useful for crowd clear

[cursive torrent]

Welcome to every game with random weapon stats ever for the last 30 years?

[glossy jacinth]

I'm trying but not really getting anywhere with cliffhanger yet

[final depot]

no but sure

[cursive torrent]

When did Diablo 2 release?

22 years I guess

[zinc aurora]

Hi here, i play a psyker, and i want to know what is the best perk for weapon to find, i play rapier and surge staff, can you advice me plz ?

[gilded flare]

Which one should I upgrade?

[still vector]

yeah but it seems like a waste of resources

the 420 rifle and hope it rolls 420

[fathom bay]

What are Dregs? I need to kill 750 of them with ranged attacks within 3 hours

[stone wing]

yellow bois

[limpid ice]

anyone else?

[still vector]

@fathom bay run endless hordes and it will end before you notice it

[fathom bay]

Are they the poxwalkers?

[clear sun]

Any tips on the zealot penance to kill a charging mutant?

[still vector]

I think they are the cultist gunners

but won't matter in endless horde, just kill everything

[fathom bay]

Thunderhammer and premade team willing to help if possible

[still vector]

it will randomly end

[clear sun]

Does it have to charge me, or somebody else? I managed ot hit it and kill it with charge, but probably at the very end of it.

[fathom bay]

You have to charge it. Doesnt matter if it is holding someone or if it is charging you

[clear sun]

And it's about using my ult to kill him, no?

WHAT.

[fathom bay]

You have to be moving from your ult WHILE you kill him. If you stop then the challenge wont work

[ocean flower]

That achievement feels super inconsistent to me. I got it immediately post-charge, I think it ran into a wall?

[clear sun]

How am I supposed to do that? Bloody hell. Is charging in 1 place, because I stop on mutant counting in?

[fathom bay]

I got it on my 20ish attempt. It is super inconsistent.

[fathom bay]

You have to be mid charge when you kill him. The only way I got it to work was swing THEN charge. Its BS. They need to make the challenge clearer to do.

[clear sun]

Ah, swing for a heavy?

[untold phoenix]

I got it by charging it right before it started to run, that counted as it charging as well apparently

[fathom bay]

Yeah turn the taser on the hammer and charge a heavy attack then swing and then charge. Thats how I did it anyway.

[untold phoenix]

It stomps the ground and shouts once before running so look out for that

[minor oxide]

Anyone know if "Damage Resistance (Gunners)" includes non-Special gunners?

[bold saffron]

so R4s are bugged to always be Endless hordes?

[fathom bay]

doubtful

[minor oxide]

Pretty sure it's intentional. They seem to cycle through conditions. Yesterday everything was lights out.

[untold phoenix]

It's just the heavy weapons gunners

The ones called gunners in the kill feed

[bold saffron]

I mean even When you get one with no Modifier its always the Current Modifier

[grave marsh]

Well the bosses eventually drop loot cubes like vernintide?

[untold phoenix]

Who knows, they might but currently they don't

[blissful bluff]

can we consecrate thunder hammers yet? or is it still bugged?

[rapid ermine]

dis be stun, ye?

[ebon fjord]

go on logistratum and bait the horde on the little bridge on the left of the starting bridge

[rapid ermine]

Impact is stun/stagger, right? That sounds kinda nutty for a hammer with super cleave attacks?

[shut crown]

what does this do?

[limpid walrus]

Either of these even worth grabbing for someone who runs force swords?

[boreal nacelle]

Anyone knows what +3 rending does?

[shut crown]

yeah i'd like to know

[limpid walrus]

I think Rending is more damage or smth

[steel kraken]

Armor penetration or sometrhing i think

[limpid walrus]

Yeah, armor removal i think

[azure nebula]

Rending used to refer to ignoring armor. It could mean anything from ignoring three targets hit, to better getting through Carapace armor or... FatShark only knows.

[slow fog]

OK so 11 is recon las for vet

[steel kraken]

idk if this is a good roll, but I think I like it

[slow fog]

This seems bad?

Like actively a debuff

[slow fog]

The crit makes it good. At the mo the best blessing for Evi is toughness on multi hit IMO

Still nice though

[steel kraken]

I've never even seen that one, pray for rerolls soon

[wind ridge]

Guy's what the seventh mission type

I've played fucking everything

[boreal nacelle]

Is + 40% critical dmg on weak spot hits gud? Got Dat on me lasgun

[wind ridge]

It won't give me the achievement

[boreal nacelle]

SoonTM

[split anvil]

Did you check the penance list?

It should say what mission you are missing

[wind ridge]

I'll have a look

[shrewd pendant]

What does the "Range" stat do?

[boreal nacelle]

The mission type we need isn't released yet I think

[split anvil]

Under the penance mission tab

[inland cipher]

Anyone mind helping me do the cliffhanger challenge?

[humble quail]

The relay station was the 7th type that was in at the beginning of the beta. It was recently readded

[wind ridge]

I am missing an investigation mission, are those available?

[boreal nacelle]

Yes

[split anvil]

Should be the scanning plague stuff

[boreal nacelle]

Ye

[slow fog]

OK so I have some genuinely interesting info

[wind ridge]

I swear I've done a ton of that

[split anvil]

On Malice?

[boreal nacelle]

On the right difficulty?

[wind ridge]

I think so

No matter I'll just do another one

[slow fog]

The shop resets based on when you arrive back in the Mourningstar. Meaning, if you level up and unlock a weapon and it's 5 past the hour, you can have it appear in the shop when you get back.

[steel kraken]

seems to update on the hour, every hour, I've been logging in during work for days to check

[split anvil]

I have to ask the shop hovering around 400 item score supposed to be the case right?

[full shell]

guys, if while doing matchmaking on the penances are people who also wanna do their penances, try to just stack as a group and keep doing it, trust me it's way better to be in a group dedicated to doing penances

[crimson stag]

Finally got this dumb penance. Way easier than with the Thunderhammer one shot

[full shell]

Proud of you, fam

[boreal nacelle]

It resets every full hour it even got a timer in the corner

[split anvil]

Bottom right corner

[slow fog]

@boreal nacelle
It does, but what I'm saying is, I just levelled up and unlocked a weapon and it was 10 past. When I got to the shop it was there

Meaning it resets on the hour

But it only rolls new weapons once youre actually there

[steel kraken]

hmm perhaps, I've never been that lucky

[winter hare]

what talent is generally considered best for lv25 ogryn

[steel kraken]

then again, I sat for maybe 50 resets before the first thunderhammer showed up

[boreal nacelle]

I can't really follow u the only thing I experienced was that if I leveled up and unlocked a new weapon type, that unlocked weapon type was in the vendor automatically to the next full hour and that was the case for every single new weapon type I unlocked so far after that first visit at the shop after unlocking it it was random again

Also saw that in a video dunno if it's true but u always wanna buy the highest rating weapon u can cuz the shop upon reset scales with ur highest gear

[unborn pilot]

Y_Y why is endless horde on again for another 12 hours

[steel kraken]

That's how it was in Vermintide, but Hedge posted something the other day, let me see if I can find it

[spiral thorn]

what level is the flame warp staff locked behind

[steel kraken]

For the rating it is based on :
o Mostly your character level
o A bit on your trait/perks amount (rarity)
o A bit on your trait/perks rank, so the quality

Now, what exactly is meant by train/perks, beats me

[livid swan]

anyone know the highest power for curios?

[steel kraken]

highest I've seen is a 121, but I guess they go higher

[crystal wave]

How often do Espionage missions show up?

[boreal nacelle]

Once per full moon

[burnt marten]

Anyone know how shop ilvl drops are calculated?

[boreal nacelle]

We literally talked about it 3min ago

[iron ledge]

Is the max stacks penance for psyker bugged?

[crystal wave]

has to be done on Heresy

its bugged

Malice doesnt work

[serene latch]

most don't give a shit about your penances

[silver citrus]

So why am I getting Teammate is not available for matchmaking if we played before ?

[iron ledge]

oooohhhhh ty

[sage glacier]

has anyone found a use for Trauma staff?

[quasi trench]

horde killer

[inland cipher]

Blowing up things standing in front of your ogryn

[crystal wave]

its just a worse version of the fire staffs horde clear atm

[quasi trench]

Nah

fire staff is bait trauma staff is way better imo

[burnt pendant]

It has a lot more range than a flamethrower, and basically the same use as other classes' grenades.

[crystal wave]

LOL no, not at all

[bright relic]

For some reason my Grimoire Contract didn't complete even though we left with a Grimoire. That a bug?

[sage glacier]

i think this is bait actually

[crystal wave]

yea

[quasi trench]

ok buddy 🙂

[burnt pendant]

Text chat doesn't seem to work anymore atm. 🤔

[crystal wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRw-eStsetk

[quasi trench]

Wow thats crazy

some guys video

[true sand]

Yo can someone help me with going out with a bang penance?

[crystal wave]

something tells me you are the bully at your middle school

[quasi trench]

no i was the background character

[winter obsidian]

I will

[true sand]

Thank you so much

[uncut mantle]

So with weapon crafting, is there any way to improve the base stats? Or just the traits and blessings?

[quasi trench]

they do improve when you consecrate it right

scale to ur lvl

[rigid wasp]

what do you guys think is the best weapon for the veteran 100% accuracy penance

[true sand]

Do you want to squad up on vc or just like chat?

[burnt sierra]

the latter, hence the recommendation to upgrade greys all the way to oranges/yellows, though replacing/rerolling them is not implemented yet

[rigid wasp]

I've seen people say revolver cause low ammo and shotgun cause of spread

[uncut mantle]

that's real annoying. thanks for the answer

[burnt sierra]

also make sure to hoard gear with good blessings for transfer when it is implemented!

[uncut mantle]

that takes a lot of wind out of my sails for buying a purple or blue

[worldly flame]

am i crazy or is achlys mk8 combat axe heavy rotation bugged - its supposed to be cleave -> strikedown -> strikedown, but after doing one cleave it only does strikedowns afterwards

this intended?

[slow fog]

Huh, I actually think I prefer the XII to the recon las

[burnt sierra]

pretty sure that's intended, there's a bunch of weapons that skip out on starting-attacks when you loop the combo

[sage glacier]

some weapons loop only 2nd and 3rd attack

[worldly flame]

thats wild

[sage glacier]

vermintide was like that too, i think

[full shell]

Sometimes i can be on one side or another, that was most for the people who want to do their penance but think that players are against them, when they are just wanna play the mission lols

[heavy vale]

Need help completing "ON OVERWATCH" Challange as veteran

[full shell]

I'll DM you

[whole nebula]

just keep playing heresy, eventually you'll get the perfect setup for it, and don't use the start of missions, it's a trap

[heavy vale]

its malice or higher

[cursive torrent]

Probably a shotgun with a very low ammo stat

[rare magnet]

Do force staves count as a ranged weapon not getting scab progress it seems

[sage glacier]

yes

[whole nebula]

oh if its not the kill one then its easy as and you should just be able to do it naturally lol

[sage glacier]

probably a new bug, if they don't now

[rare magnet]

Yes as in they are a ranged weapon?

[proper coral]

So, when are Investigation missions coming back into rotation?

[rigid wasp]

I've been trying to use it but its still like, near 80 shells to go through without missing once in addition to actually managing to complete the mission while gimping myself :(

[sage glacier]

yes, as in they are and they did count for me

[heavy vale]

its taking no melee damage

[burnt sierra]

over time, they have been available plenty of times over the course of the past 24h, just wait for 'em

[whole nebula]

again, practice heresy, you get used to not taking melee hits

[proper coral]

Awesome, I've been looking for them today but none have popped up on the map.

[whole nebula]

I think they're gone again, I deffo saw them today but nothing after and I've been looking for my second helmet pennence

[burnt sierra]

yea, hate the system, it usually takes about 6 to 8h for some of the missions to return, though espionage wasn't available for about 4 or 5 days before today and disruption not since release before yesterday

[burnt sierra]

yea, they aren't available right now though I did some earlier today

[unborn pilot]

has fatshark addressed why endless horde is back again forever?

[proper coral]

Disruption and Espionage were taken out because of some issues with those missions so they returned recently. They were around for a only a few days at the start.

[slow fog]

ooh this will be useful for 10 minute penance

[burnt sierra]

conditions rotate on a multi-hour basis

[unborn pilot]

12?

[burnt pendant]

How useful is warp nexus on a voidstrike staff? Never used one so far, but up to 3% crit x5 stacks sounds useful - only I have no idea how the stacks are generated.
I could instead take a white one and upgrade it - but then again, I'm not even close to top level, so I'll probably get better bases in the future for that.

[burnt sierra]

I think so, though I'm not sure

[slow fog]

Voidstrike is the best staff dype IMO

[burnt sierra]

nah, they're both available, disruption is right now and espionage was earlier today

[unborn pilot]

bah. we finally got something other than horde, and it came right back 😦

[steel kraken]

I know ?
I didn't even see the blackout

[burnt sierra]

I misread, disregard my recent message, you're right

[sage glacier]

it's ok, the quell on weak spot thing on it is more busted though

[burnt sierra]

was available from 12am CET to 12pm CET, I assume

[proper coral]

Its all good! Just trying to get that fancy hat. The things we do for hats.

[steel kraken]

I guess so, I just thought they would keep cycling them like they did in the beginning

[burnt pendant]

A lot of people say it's good. And in VT2 I mained Sienna and used a fireball for the longest time. But I haven't seen any argument but personal taste for individual staves. People also swear by the CC potential of the lightning staff, but I just dislike it mechanically.

[burnt sierra]

was finally able to get the final one yesterday after waiting for over a week lol

[burnt sierra]

they are! as I mentioned a few minutes ago, they cycle on a seemingly semi-daily basis

[burnt pendant]

But how likely is it I find that? I've yet to get a sword with bullet block, as well. There's plenty of options, and half the time the blessing doesn't even work on the weapon it's on. 🤷‍♂️

[gray geyser]

hah! all that for a gimp suit hat

[steel kraken]

Oh I missed that part 🙂

[torpid grotto]

I don't like how the Zealot is forced to be bald most of the time with this cosmetic.

[sage glacier]

it will be possible to craft at some point, i think

[steel kraken]

congratz! I'm struggling on the shocking one, with killing 50 stunned by grenades in 10 secs

[burnt sierra]

lore accuracy, though I don't mind it personally, especially considering that most leaked zealot cosmetics don't do that

[burnt pendant]

Yes. Certainly. But I think I'll wait until I hit level 30 before I save items for later crafting. ^^

[fallen geyser]

What are the different mission types

[burnt pendant]

Unless I find a purgatory staff with maxed out burn bar. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

[sage glacier]

well, you probably don't need the optimal weapon for now then

[burnt sierra]

bolter + damnation + endless horde will let you do both shocking stuff and there is nothing but the abyss at once, took me one mag to complete both of them

[worldly flame]

when i block strike with eviscerator and then follow with light, the light is a horizontal cleave that is 3rd in light rotation, is this part of the rotation skipping weirdness? or what is happening here

[torpid grotto]

Raid, strike, disruption, repair, espionage, investigation, assassination

[steel kraken]

Whats damnation

[torpid grotto]

difficulty type?

[steel kraken]

oh yes doh

[burnt pendant]

True. I don't. I'm just pondering if I buy a white staff and upgrade it once or twice, or buy the blue one, so I can at least test the voidstrike. I'm hoping we'll eventually get a bolt-staff equivalent, though.
After all, while the blue's obviously good, it's also expensive... you know, you're right. I'll just take the blue despite the cost, money comes quicker than materials. By level 30 it'll be a wash

[worldly flame]

get bleed trait, and spam 3 grenades, it applies the dot

will clear a horde

[unborn pilot]

whats up with matchmaking? it seems to tend to put the same classes together?

[steel kraken]

Ahh thats a clever way

[ocean flower]

question about Zealot feat choice: why use Honor the Martyr? 15 extra damage per hit doesn't seem anywhere near as worthwhile as 20% more

[shut crown]

having quite the hard time picking from these two

[sage glacier]

lightning staff is the only one that can CC all non-boss enemies reliably, with one cast, for very low peril, and you also don't have to aim. it does no damage to hordes though

the RPG staff and the fire staff are horde clear only pretty much, and the ground aoe one is terrible

^all tested both in missions and meat grinder

[hoary sparrow]

holy hell, I pulled a full run to earn Make Every Shot Count legit without using cheesy way with shotgun, my heart is pumping so hard

[torpid grotto]

buy it and save it for the crafting update

[burnt sierra]

never seen anyone use it, I personally run 212221 with a crit-chance stacking weapon to get DR, Bleed & CDR

[lunar isle]

anyone interested in helping me get the cliffhanger penance completed?

[shut crown]

what's your to go melee for bleed? i've seen lots with Claw swords

[slow fog]

Evidently the combat knife is the best weapon for zealot

[burnt sierra]

right one has a better stat-roll, keep it, put Pinning Fire on it (if you don't get it from consecrating) once full crafting is available and reroll the reload speed for carapace damage, 10/10 elite + specialist killer

[burnt sierra]

I use devil's claw as well, you could technically abuse combat blade with lacerate, but that is gonna get fixed eventually, so I suggest just opting for cleave + crit-stacking for single-target DPS, alternatively you can use eviscerator or chainaxe (spamming shove attack on chain-axe for cleave)

[ocean flower]

i've been having a grand ol time with the Antax Mk V axe. what weapon do you recommend (besides the dagger, i'm not playing zealot to live out my nonexistant prison shank fantasies) for crits?

[steel kraken]

This is a trait on a weapon yeah?

[burnt sierra]

read msg above, tl;dr devil's claw, evi or chaxe; taxe if you want high single-target DPS but sacrificing cleave

[worldly flame]

yes

[ocean flower]

which devil's claw, though

there's like four of them

[burnt sierra]

apologies, I use MK IV

Light > Heavy for Horde, Heavy > Heavy for mixed horde/elites

[spare tangle]

how did people complete the going out with a bang psyker penance??

[sage glacier]

by getting a premade to help you

[astral warren]

is there an ideal staff for psyker?

or all of them are okayish?

[vapid egret]

theyre all decent

[ebon fjord]

depend , i really like the void one for horde but a build is better with flame one

[vapid egret]

but people usually expect psykers to provide cc

and surge is the most reliable for cc

[lime imp]

Surge is bonkers

[sage glacier]

only trauma is bad

[torpid grotto]

An ideal staff is a zealot watching their back.

[spare tangle]

ah ok

[lime imp]

It ignores the entire stagger system

And just animation locks everything that isnt a monstrosity

[serene latch]

some just wanna farm gold or xp or scriptures or the currency

[plain harness]

Anyone know if I get an orange weapon if I'm able to increase the rating? don't want to waste dockets on a 391 weapon if shortly after I'm going to get a 450 item or something

[lime imp]

By default, no charge needed

[astral warren]

why is trauma bad?

[lime imp]

The other staffs do stuff that other classes are gonna do for you in a team

[sage glacier]

i don't see a use case for it

[astral warren]

surge is the lightning one right?

[lime imp]

Surge is something only the psyker can contribute

Yea

[sage glacier]

yes

[astral warren]

trauma is the one that launches an exploding sphere?

[sage glacier]

no, trauma is the ground aoe one

[astral warren]

oh, i hate that one

[sage glacier]

the sphere doesn't explode, it pierces

[ebon fjord]

it explode at some point

[ocean flower]

it does both

[astral warren]

it explodes when hits surfaces i think

[lapis raven]

fast charge trauma is good

[sage glacier]

the main feature about it is the piercing, not the explosion

[lapis raven]

has a lot of horde disrupt

[astral warren]

what about the flame staff? any good?

[lapis raven]

i've had a good time using it

[sage glacier]

yes, it's decent

very good vs hordes, can do some CC

[lapis raven]

there's a psyker build that pulls a lot of potential into it too, but that comes online at lvl 30

[ocean flower]

i've heard so, yeah. you're really gonna want someone to be paying attention to pox bursters, hounds, and mutants, though, since you can no longer stun them and BB is slow

[raw mango]

is emperors execution deal more dmg at close range

[sage glacier]

link?

[lapis raven]

it's mostly focused around the lvl 30 skill

[spiral goblet]

Flame staff is very fun, and good horde cc. Less strong cc than surge, but much more widespread.

[lapis raven]

there's one that's...

[sage glacier]

you can still stun hounds

[lapis raven]

10% chance of warp charge on soulblaze kill?

[vapid egret]

ascendant blaze?

[lapis raven]

the flame staff is soulblaze

aye that's the one i think

essentially just stack soulblaze stacks

do staff kills count as warp kills?

[sage glacier]

as far as i know, it's broken rn and it doesn't

[lapis raven]

is it intended to?

[sage glacier]

probably.

[ocean flower]

yes. otherwise, you just have one feat that is an immediately worse version of another feat on the same level

[lapis raven]

i know warp sword special counts as one

[vapid egret]

i think the purgatus build was warp absorption, psykinetics wrath, psychic communion, mind in motion, kinetic flayer and ascendant blaze

at least thats the purgatus build i remember

[sage glacier]

correct

[unborn jasper]

any zealot tips n tricks

and good melee weap

[sage glacier]

the cs go knife

[stone forum]

eviscirator. its super versatile and looks cool af

the knife with bleed on regular proc too

or is it only special attacks? whichever one turns your stun grenade into an aoe bleed Xd

[burnt sierra]

the good ol' exploiter shank build

[safe fern]

for the preacher penance Abhor the Mutant, what weapon should i use? having a lot of issues trying to complete this

[rigid wasp]

Real quick someone answer me this before I go away to take my damn math exam

has anyone seen Investigation or Espionage all day?

[safe fern]

nope

[burnt sierra]

yea, investigation and espionage were both available at about 12am to 10am today (CET)

[rigid wasp]

That was yesterday I mean today lol different time zones.

Yeah they were in the map yesterday then they got removed again

[valid sand]

while clearly having enough to consencrate, i get an error saying I can't?

[burnt sierra]

I mean, just because you are in a different timezone does not change the fact that it was today in fatshark time, so yea, they were available today since the day isn't over in CET yet

[worldly flame]

hammer crafting is bugged

[dense temple]

guys I got it!!!

[safe fern]

gg

[burnt sierra]

nice

[robust pebble]

Why the ever loving fuck is shocking stuff harder for me to get than flesh wound

I've been attempting this on Heresy and on Damnation to little avail

[burnt sierra]

what weapon are you using? I suggest bolter in a corridor, should take you less than a mag on endless horde

[robust pebble]

Bolter and flamer, neither've panned out for me yet

[little zinc]

any tips on the zealot penance "heal to 100% hp with dmg done during Holy Fervor?"

[verbal linden]

Does Psykinetic's Aura work on yourself?

[robust pebble]

Pox walker horde + something with great cleave

[frozen bloom]

how do you kill mutant during dodge? i load heavy attack, press ability and get the kill, but somehow i get the timing down wrong?

[burnt sierra]

same thing, bolter + endless horde in a corridor, disregard melee

[robust pebble]

The mutant specifically has to be in the middle of its charge if it's the penance I'm thinking of

[little zinc]

im at 95/100 but i keep getting corruption and cant heal to 100%

[deep sorrel]

question the overwatch quest to do a mission on malice or higher and take no damage. if i take toughness damage do i fail the quest?

[burnt sierra]

oh yea, you can't have corruption, gotta use corruption resistance, probably

[robust pebble]

What seriously, you have to actually have zero corruption? ... wow.

[frozen bloom]

thats skullcrusher and plague ogryn

[vital delta]

Hey are investigation missions disabled?

[robust pebble]

I thought it'd give it to you if you just healed to whatever your max hp was at that point

[grand flint]

I'm going to need to read a PhD thesis to understand all these fucking stats man wtf

[little zinc]

ive done it twice with a tiny bit of corruption but its always corruption from being attacked to "die" to trigger it

[deep sorrel]

thats fucking insane no damage at all. pain

[robust pebble]

No, it's also for the zealot's penance abhor the mutant

Where you have to kill it during a charge

That is, charge into it and kill it during ITS charge

[grand flint]

what exactly does power do? what does impact do? is a big chunk of first target better than a little damage overall? why do higher ilvl things sometimes have lower stats?

this is ridiculous

[sage glacier]

reading won't help, just use feeling bro, feel the stats bro

[uncut verge]

Rating is the # of points that can be distributed, but the stats can be distributed poorly

[shell cedar]

using flamers is a good way to get that penance

[bitter summit]

how exactly does this blessing work and is it any good?? I wanna know in case I should grab it just for the blessing

[uncut verge]

Traits take up like 15-25 and blessings 25-55 points each too

[burnt pendant]

Yes, higher rating doesn't make everything better, it just gives more points to be spread over the stats.

[fathom bay]

That seems to be correct

[midnight frigate]

Just buy cheep versions and use the meat grinder training room

[burnt pendant]

That's a +4 blessing, so... could be useful. Probably meant for burst-fire weapons, though it spawns on others.

[fathom bay]

Your second and third shots do more weak spot damage. it is decent but clunky

[grand flint]

full release better have some kind of "weapon tuning" with the stats or its just another ridiculous layer of rng

[bitter summit]

but what counts as a salvo? an entire clip? is it time based?

[grand flint]

ive found assassination missions to be the quickest, especially if everyone is on the same page with sanicing the level

[bitter summit]

I thought so too, but I'm not exactly sure what counts as salvo , was thinking of getting it only bcs of it being a 4

[burnt pendant]

Second and third shot on auto- or burst fire. So, f.Ex., a Headhunter Autorifle, which fires 3-round bursts. Also Ripper guns.

[reef pulsar]

how important is finesse and what exactly does it do

[burnt pendant]

Granted, you can currently get it on weapons where it makes no sense, like a staff, but it's probably intended only for burst-fire. Never tested if it actually works on full-auto weapons.

[bitter summit]

hmm, I guess I'll grab it for the +4 blessing, in case it turns out to be good later on

[rugged wigeon]

Decent club roll?

[burnt pendant]

Finesse is basically a bonus on weakspot hits (or backstab, if there was such a mechanic. I don't think it stacks with raking fire?). So good for, say, a stabbing knife.

[trim panther]

finesse also indirectly increases your attack speed by decreasing the attack interval lag on all your attacks, lesser end lag on your attacks

[reef pulsar]

so i want a lot of finesse on my knife

[stone eagle]

are the investigation missions out of rotation?

[reef pulsar]

is the knife i posted good then or not enough finesse

[burnt pendant]

Ideally, yes. I'd prefer damage over it, but it's a decent stat on weapons you often fight singular enemies with, or deal a lot of headshots with.

[spark tusk]

does item power even mean anything in darktide

[burnt pendant]

Well, that's up to taste, but more or less all stats on that except mobility are good for single-target attacks, and it has good damage. You can just bring it into the psykanium and test it out.

[patent sapphire]

just run the highest difficulty you can complete guaranteed, endless hordes mode adds 500 to diff 2

which makes it ~90% as much xp as diff 3

[echo sorrel]

Is there a way to see what missions you still need to complete for the Achievement?

[trim panther]

the item rating displayed on a weapon is its cumulative stat bars, property values, and blessing value. what this means is that your weapon can have an extremely low damage value but still have 450 item rating

[burnt pendant]

It fills the bars and pays for the weapon perks and blessings. What you see is what you get, at that point the rating has already been used to roll that weapon. So, no, a high rating by itself means nothing. There is no item power progression like in VT 2. Edit: I type too slow.

[little zinc]

nope

[echo sorrel]

Nice

Thanks FS

[golden hill]

Hey guys, can anyone tell me what are the pros of using a chainsword over, say, a power sword? I just tried to compare it to slightly lower rating power sword and mk V combat axe and it just doesn't feel like it excels at anything?

Single target against specials/ogryns is laughable compared to the axe, and horde clear is much worse than that of a power sword. Am I missing something?

[soft wing]

How's this look? Bought off servitor to save as fodder for later, but upgraded it once and got this...

[burnt pendant]

Many say that currently, the Power sword is just straight better than chain weapons (except the smol eviscerator).

[lapis raven]

power sword is overtuned rn and is likely to get a nerf

[patent sapphire]

which achievement? you can go into the penance list and choose missions to see which you have done, it won’t help you with figuring out which ones you need for “do 7 missions on x difficulty” though

[shrewd laurel]

It's kind of an allrounder

[wintry silo]

what specials can you easily kill with the psyker self kill?

[lapis raven]

most weapons don't stand up to it purely because of that

[echo sorrel]

Do all mission types

T2 one of that

[wintry silo]

trying the three specials on self kill penance

[golden hill]

Yeah, that makes sense, thanks

[wet bloom]

Hopefully

[patent sapphire]

yeah there’s nothing that tracks for the higher tiers of that

afaik

[echo sorrel]

F

[lapis raven]

id recommend just abstaining from power sword

it's what i've done

[wet bloom]

I play guardsman but god its too strong

[lapis raven]

it wont ruin all other weapons for you when it gets nerfed

[echo sorrel]

Ive found chainweapons to be really good. Maybe im just bad tho

[lapis raven]

general chat is likely to be filled in a few days by a lot of whining when it gets nerfed

[golden hill]

yeah, I'm really enjoying MK V axe atm, it's so fun to bonk everything on malice/heresy, feels very chonky

[echo sorrel]

the special is really good against armour I found

[lapis raven]

axe instakill a lot of basic guys yeah it's pretty fun

[wet bloom]

They are but compared to powersworx

[golden hill]

and it has a really good push attack which helps with hordes

[lapis raven]

i actually went back to the catachan knife recently

it's pretty good vs hordes in general

[zenith torrent]

What is that green rectangular logo on the right of the card, pray tell?

[fierce totem]

aesthetics

[spark tusk]

Background

[golden hill]

it also plows through crushers and reapers with the heavy attack, really good stuff

[little zinc]

2 more heresy missions... 😦

[zenith torrent]

It has no incidence?

[lapis raven]

the various axe types have different attack patterns

[fierce totem]

Not to my knowledge, no

[lapis raven]

im liking the one with diagonal-y strikes

[trim panther]

it is theorized that it guarantees an emperor's gift, but in my own experience it doesnt really do anything, so its all confirmation bias

[feral gust]

I've seen the thunderhammer being used in crowd control.... it needs timing right for quick-repeated-sweeps.?

[lapis raven]

yeah the heavies can be used for horde sweeping

like most heavies rn they're a bit on the side of slow imo

[spark tusk]

What does item power rating do?

[trim panther]

it displays the total amount of "points" the weapon used on all of its stats

[lapis raven]

^

[spark tusk]

Ohhh

[lapis raven]

perks and blessings cost preset amounts of points

it's why high rarity weapons have higher rating by default but could have worse stats

[spark tusk]

The. What does the stat finess affect for weapons?

[lapis raven]

crit chance

[spark tusk]

Wait

[feral gust]

chance to crit i think

[spark tusk]

What

[lapis raven]

its a few different things but apparently its

[spark tusk]

Lol I see

[lapis raven]

crit chance, bonus to weakpoints and i've heard it's also animation speed

[trim panther]

it most notably, as in new, decreases the chaining lag between attacks, an indirect attack speed increase

it sadly is not actual attack speed

[lapis raven]

chaining lag?

so like, the delay between tac-axe chains and such?

[trim panther]

mhm

[shut crown]

I'd love to use some helmets, but they make you bald for some reason

[novel ruin]

any vet strats on how to complete the 100% accuracy, no ammo penance?

[trim panther]

so an example: an ogryn club having low finesse will spam heavy 1 at the same exact speed as club with high finesse, but the low finesse club will flow into its attacks significantly worse

[wet bloom]

prevent clipping probably

[shut crown]

it looks really bad tho

[wet bloom]

So would clipping probably

[shut crown]

depends on the hairstyle i guess

[still glen]

Will Fatshark add an option to solo play? Some of the Psyker penances are incredibly hard with groups, even the knock down one is a pain.

[shut crown]

Yup

[trim panther]

supposedly will be possible when the game comes out

[still glen]

phew

[shut crown]

They'll add an option for bots only game

[wet bloom]

The lights got turned off because someone kept flicking the lights and someone got a seizure

[shut crown]

The ogryn turned off the wrong generator

[earnest pivot]

anyone knows what exactly are the "infested enemies"?

[green cipher]

Does Ogryn have any similar blessings to like...anyone else? Lasguns have an interesting burn stack on crit, staves have multiple uniques. The most I've seen is like...movement speed with dual snubber.

[stray arrow]

anyone here done the cliffhanger penance?

[wet bloom]

Dont miss and dont lag

I did no miss but I lag so shots dont reg from time to time

actually impossible

[fallen geyser]

shotgun or anything with low ammo

[earnest pivot]

imo find a boss use full ammo on him and then just finish the game

[tired crown]

Not at launch but in late December they'll had private games and solo games.

[shut crown]

If you go in the psykanum and start shooting enemies, it will tell you what you're hitting. Infested enemies are, for example, the pox hound

[golden hill]

just did one with a random who asked for help, he did it right away lol

[earnest pivot]

oh alright didnt know that

[wet bloom]

Any elites along the way will give boolet back

[rigid wasp]

with charged shots plasma gun has a very low ammo cap it might actually be the best for the 100% vet penance

[wet bloom]

and beating herasy with randos is hard enough without including no shooting

[shut crown]

Do an Assault or Raid in Chasm Station. There's a narrow bridge to the left side of the starting area

[tired crown]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons this shows all of the weapons and their possible blessings

[shut crown]

Might work, revolver has even less ammo, but you're practically playing without a sharpshooter at that point

[golden hill]

Couldn't recall what's the mission called, but that's exactly how we did it, yeah. The guy asked to wait for a horde and lead it to that bridge and just did it

[winter moss]

What would be considered the "best" blessings for sharpshooter lasguns?

[wet bloom]

revolver feels comically useless

Cant even one shot head shot the basic gun lads

[rigid wasp]

nah, revolver has more because the plasma can use up to 10 rounds of ammo in one shot, also yeah you basically are but I'm not the one who made the penance so take that up with fatshark

[tired crown]

Infernus for recon guns, their damage is pretty incredible.

[wet bloom]

on hearasy

[shut crown]

Yup, works best with an Ogryn and a Slab shield. Put the guy in the middle of the bridge, have the horde pile up to him and shove it all down in the nothingness

[lapis raven]

revolver is really good wut

instant unholster

hit vet f

unload into chest of some poor mauler

switch back to melee and keep slashing

the revolver's power comes in being a pocket damage burst

[shut crown]

Friend of mine has a blessing that procs 2 stacks of burn per critical hit. Works amazing with the sharpshooter volley

[winter moss]

Yeah that sounds really nice

[wet bloom]

dont have any trouble with maulers with shovel so na

[lapis raven]

rager then

[wet bloom]

also shotgun is insta unholster and actually does damage

[lapis raven]

shotty's a good one too, but you're sacrificing long range potential for that

if you're fine with that it's definitely better performing in close range pocket damage burst

[wet bloom]

Not at all imo

[tepid minnow]

whoo, got the 'Not even close' penance by complete chance xD

[lapis raven]

with vet F you can hipfire the revolver really easily at even mid range into whoever you want

[shut crown]

The solution to any problem is a thunder hammer

[rigid wasp]

revolver is amazing and if zealots or psykers are really mad about vets not being able to take out priority targets or snipe they should take it to become more self sufficient 2bh since it's not class locked iirc

[wet bloom]

Can one shot headshot from across the meatgrinder room well revolver cant even at close range

[sleek perch]

Anyone got a good and fun to play Zealot build?

[lapis haven]

I saw in the list of weapons leak a while back has anyone seen a Hotshot-lasgun yet?

[lapis raven]

do you have a blessing on the shotty and not on the revolver

[wet bloom]

Not one that would come up in that situation

[paper holly]

I run bolter or revolver or a precise rifle on my Zealot to pick up the specials slack

[lapis raven]

what ones do u have

[wet bloom]

more power in close range kill, similar damage stat

[shrewd laurel]

Is the zealot feat for heal during invincibility bugged? I only seem to heal very little amounts

[shut crown]

Bolter 💯

[lapis raven]

damage stat doesnt mean anything though cross-weapon

its extra damage on that specific weapon archetype, on top of base

[wet bloom]

I got work to go to now but revolver feels completely outclassed

[paper holly]

@sleek perch there's tons of great builds, what weapons do you have/enjoy playing with

[shut crown]

It just doesnt heal a lot. I suggest either emptying your shoota on the nearest fool, or charging up the strongest melee attack you can within your 5 sec of invulnerability

[wet bloom]

It comes up in this convo though to show revolvers weaker base damage

if I was saying low dmg shotgun was beating high damage rev it would be different

[lapis raven]

logically shotty would scale better due to multiple pellets, no?

[paper holly]

You have to remember though, revolver is one of the few ranged weapons that gets the non-0 Crit Mod bonus in damage Calculation

[lapis raven]

it does? that does explain some things

[shrewd laurel]

Well I special attacked a rager with my eviscerator and even that only healed like 40 health at best, no idea how you're supposed to do the penance

[lapis raven]

i think the shotty also suffers against flak and carapace whilst the revolver does fairly ok

obliterate a horde probably

[grand flint]

does the first target stat also apply when you only hit one target with a swing?

[sleek perch]

Ranged weapon doesn't matter too much for me, but i enjoy both the heavy evicerator/chainsword (of course) but thunder hammer or maybe the catachan combat blade can work as well

[grand flint]

so in theory its far more important than just raw damge?

[dapper turret]

Heya gameplay help, just doing some observations in the meatgrinder

[stray arrow]

what is the best staff for psyker

[lapis raven]

what are you looking for

CC? CC+damage?

horde clear?

[dapper turret]

just some tips

[shut crown]

On what difficulty? You dont heal more than the hp you take away from something.
For the penance, i suggest grabbing an auto gun, bolter or other fast shooter, get on low hp in the middle of a horde and then empty your magazine

[shut crown]

As far as i know yes

[paper holly]

@sleek perch then you probably want to play around Crit for chainsword or damage+ Survivability on the Heavy eviscerator. What level are you? There are a ton of builds on Reddit.

[dapper turret]

These sorts of guys count as "Unarmored"

[lapis raven]

rags and tshirts do be unarmored

[sleek perch]

Never thought about checking reddit, but i'm 26, thinking of doing a push towards 30 today

[shrewd laurel]

3

[stray arrow]

i like purgatas or whatever its call with the fire spray so i oike crowd controll the best but the void staff seemed to be good too just not as good at crowed control

[signal cipher]

It's endless endless horde

[hidden frigate]

@sleek perch dagger with lacaret, or axe with shred and you are good to go

[lapis raven]

void is good at CC but doesn't stun

[paper holly]

@grand flint it goes Damage > First Target + Pen

[signal cipher]

I'm kinda fed up with it

[lapis raven]

purgatus staggers the horde and also does damage

[dapper turret]

for refrence, these ones are "Infested"

[paper holly]

Here is damage equation from J_Sat

[lapis raven]

and you can wave your cursor around to spread the fire, which yknow, being fire, pierces infinitely

it's also good at armour due to that

[wanton girder]

Hey wanna ask a quick question
Been playing the last few days since i got the game
Ive been playing only psyker but i feel the class is useless
Pretty much every other class is better at doing everything else
CC- Ogryn, Marksman
Elites - Marksman, Zelot
Wanted to ask if someone else has felt this?

[dapper turret]

The infested ones actually, (at least on damnation) seem to take less damage and be more durable than the unarmored

[shut crown]

Wtf is this pyramid scheme

[paper holly]

J_Sat damage infographic xO

[lapis raven]

psyker can do everything at once @wanton girder tbf

ult can cc, as can a number of staffs

[dapper turret]

these ones have flak armor, but only in, well, armored spots

[lapis raven]

elites can be deleted by brain burst given enough time

[shut crown]

So finesse actually increases damage

[sage glacier]

try surge staff

[shut crown]

Huh

[dapper turret]

fun fact, enemy head armor actually does something

[wanton girder]

Yeah but Ogryn can CC better with one nade launcher
And marksman can kill an elite before you even cast BB

[stray arrow]

i really like psyker although there are some guns i would like to use do i have no problems with crowd control or elite-boss killing and the build i have is great at level 25 its pretty much finished

[wanton girder]

Tried all still feels like other classes just do everything better and faster

[lapis raven]

BB doesn't need LoS past the initial left click lockon

[sleek perch]

Yeah i saw it a little while ago, though i haven't been blessed for a dagger to pop up in shop

[lapis raven]

helps for the faster sort of enemies

[sage glacier]

it's the best cc in the game

[lapis raven]

and yeah ogryn can CC better but you can do everything

you can CC and elite kill

you don't have to sacrifice much if anything for it

(besides your hp count lol)

[stray arrow]

well u dont have to play pcyker play whatever you have the most fun with

[wanton girder]

Idk man by the time you cast BB one of your teammates has killed 2 elites
While you can do everything, you do it so slowly that other classes overall do it better

[shut crown]

Psykers have the advantage of not requiring any ammo, and they can dabble in a little of everything.
The lightning staff is an incredible cc, the force sword and brainpop deal mad damage, and most importantly your blitz ability can't be sucked up by an oblivious ogryn

[slow fog]

One more level until I can use this beauty

[lapis raven]

psykers dont need ammo either yeah that's another big thing

[signal cipher]

Yeah there is a thing called play styles

[lapis raven]

and you'll start locking BBs faster the more you play

plus as i said again you can ignore the enemy once the BB's locked

it gives really good situational awareness

[ruby depot]

Also BB has pretty damn good range

[shut crown]

Plus, psykers are great at dealing whith nasty ahh bulwarks

[paper holly]

@shut crown yes but if you notice it has some of the lowest priority for damage multipliers and is only applies to the Finesse Curve that is automatically generated per weapon type. This is information that J_Sat did not have access to at the time of his last info drop

[hidden frigate]

@wanton girder you are lvl 30? faster cast time, but actually, later on, you dont use brain burst, spam, surge or flame stuff, and steay in the orange zone, it wall cast it for you, if you skilled right

[dapper turret]

basic tips, armor on the models actually matters. While headshots still likely do more damage than bodyshots, enemies armor does actually matter for headshots when enemies have helmets...

[lapis raven]

psyker gets better as they level up too

[wanton girder]

Lightning staff is good for stuns but killing not so much
Overall while i cast my lightning at full the enemies get mowed down by someone with a gun

[lapis raven]

you tried the force sword?

[shut crown]

Oh i thought it went left to right. As in you apply all the math, and then modify everything with finesse

[lapis raven]

yeah don't use lightning at full

spam low-charge lightning

you're there for AOE not damage

[hidden frigate]

@wanton girder yeah thats great, its a team game, and not a kill competition

[wanton girder]

almost 30 that is why im starting to see the psyker as a very large downgrade compared to Fire wizard in Vermentide 2

[paper holly]

Nah, there's parenthesis and brackets @shut crown

[sleek perch]

Is anyone able to send me the reddit link for browsing builds?

[small badger]

what psyker staff of ur opinion is the best? (both dmg and aoe)

[shut crown]

Thats just an overlapping of roles. With the right team you'll find it really easy to do your jobs, which can vary a lot thanks to the psykers's wide arsenal

[lapis raven]

if you want damage + aoe, void

but you're missing out on horde stagger

[hidden frigate]

surge and flame, for stacks farming

[wanton girder]

Team game but isnt killing the most important?
Like yeah i can stun like 5-7 enemies, but other clasess can just kill the same ammount faster?

[paper holly]

So Damage, Pen, and First Target have the most impact, while Finesse is only augmenting the Crit Headshot part

[lapis raven]

what diff are you playing on

[slow fog]

Void does do stagger

It just doesnt do stun

[lapis raven]

stun and stagger gets more important as you go up

because enemies don't die to 1 hit

[shut crown]

Thanks for the explanation, i'm not sure i understand the graph even now

[lapis raven]

void stagger is inconsistent in my experience

[night mesa]

good or trash

[shut crown]

Pretty good for a sharpie

I find rending kinda sub optimal tho

[hidden frigate]

@wanton girder then play the flame stuff and go for an warp charge build, then you will kill more then your teammates

[night mesa]

literally second bolter i have ever seen in 40h of playtime 🤡

vetboi main btw

[wanton girder]

Yeah but i still dont see what role the psyker cannot be replaced in
Ive only heard that the class is most usefull at the highest difficulties, but tbh with randoms its almost impossible to get diff 3 done

[shut crown]

May the emperor bless you with many more

[hidden frigate]

@wanton girder but you will need, to maintain the warp charges on 6 stacks

[wanton girder]

Tried it
You need to go close range, by the time you do, teammates kill msot of the enemies
Only good if a horde is comming through a choke really

[signal cipher]

Again, play styles, yeah psyker's might not feel good for you as they aren't compatible with your play style,

It sounds like you exclusively que dps in overwatch so characters like the vet and zealot are probably more your style

[shut crown]

Das the truth. Psykers are essential on Heresy and Damnation.
I want you to imagine, a horde of 50 poxers walks up to the group, there's about 3 or 4 bulwarks in the middle.
The only ones that can kill them are etiher the psyker, who gives no fucks about their shield, or someone armed with a phenomenal boltgun

[hidden frigate]

i mean i love to have a psyker in my team, who gets rid of pox and sniper