gameplay-help

[raw plover]

hey guys, for curios thoughness or HP for ogryn?

[inland pier]

Holy shit Daemonhosts are tough lmao

[sudden axle]

daemonhosts are the witch equivalent

don't wake them up

[inland pier]

ah I see

Didn't know that

[boreal quarry]

Both HP and Toughness are useful. Guess it depends what feats you have though

[sudden axle]

if they kill two of the squad they will leave

[little atlas]

I would be surprised if they weren't.

[elfin ingot]

yeah. i feel like 4 Veterans with a shotgun using the special ability on them would make it easy or an Ogryn/3Veterans.

[sudden axle]

4 veterans dumping bolters can take a daemonhost, obv

but it takes coordination that you might not have in a fight with other shit

[raw plover]

on ogryn does "Smash 'Em Good!" work only if you hit a single enemy?

It's the one that replenishes 20% thoughness on heavy melee hit

[mellow sage]

is it just me or is Uprising not worth it compared to sedition difficulty ? its a increase of just 100exp ?

[sudden axle]

reaser

there's another one that is for single targets

in the same tier there's one for multiple and one for single

[raw plover]

i see but does the single hit one only work if you manage to hit a single enemy?

[sudden axle]

yes.

[fleet oriole]

we picked up 2 scriptures as a team for my weekly challenge, finished the mission with them but my total hasn't updated

Any ideas?

[raw plover]

thank you

🫡

[fleet oriole]

I'm on 9/12 which is the same as before we did the mission

[proven escarp]

damnit give me a shield game

[hot prism]

Has anyone figured out a way to do "Don't Stop Me Now" by chance?

[sudden axle]

take all the cooldown feats and the double length feat

do it, pop a bunch of elites, do it again

ez

[normal tendon]

You need to do it three time to get the length

Its requires a lot of coordination, annoying af to try to do. Also really need cooldown reduction curio drops.

[peak valve]

What's the appropriate level to start doing Heresy-level missions? Assuming I sort of know what I'm doing but I'm not an uber pro

[normal tendon]

15 minimum imo, maybe 20

Depends on how good you are.

And class and weapons you've gotten

[proven escarp]

what number is heresy?

[normal tendon]

3

[peak valve]

No heresy is level 4. I've been in enough Malice missions w/ a level 4 to know it's not good to go early lol

[proven escarp]

oh im doing fine at 3 at lvl 12

[normal tendon]

My teammates I keep getting stuck with who run off on their own and die and can't even clear basic hordes seem to think level 6 is fine for it so what do I know.

[mellow sage]

where do i see the weekly missions ?

[sour depot]

Are u lvl 11?

[mellow sage]

lv 10

[warm charm]

For the two penances for the zealot, the 50 kills against stunned enemies in 10 seconds and the full heal on death save. Is the flamer with the perk for increased range damage upclose how I do those?

[coral loom]

Highest power greys?

[honest linden]

does anyone know if the curios perk corruption resistance affects grimoires itself or only other sources of corruption?

[scarlet wigeon]

use a flamer

[warm charm]

The heavy flamer

I so want a melta gun

[drowsy lake]

Hans bring the flamer. The Heavy flamer

[scarlet wigeon]

The hardest part is you cant have any corruption

[warm charm]

I don't see how it's possible, corruption just seems to happen

[scarlet wigeon]

100 = 100% so whatever your health it has to be full not just 100 hp

corruption only happens when certian enemies and pox enemies melee you without and toughness

[warm charm]

So if I stand outside cover and get shot to get ym health low and then let a hoard activate my perk I should be good?

[scarlet wigeon]

yes or regular melee will also cause no corruption

[warm charm]

Oke

[coral loom]

I'm assuming the highest greys you can usually get are 350 in power?

[scarlet wigeon]

I got my by meme. I spawned into a game with a orgyn turtling in the corner against a bunch of flak enemies and I immed dropped to 1hp and just switched to flammer and lit the room and got it

[true dome]

Although I'm not sure if poxwalkers (the zombie horde with yellow eyes) cause corruption, so make sure its a horde of dregs or scabs

[warm charm]

I gotta figure out how go run manually with bots I feel like I'll be greifing trying some of these penances

[rigid wasp]

Current theory is up to 400 I think

[coral loom]

I'm just going to keep saving my dockets until 30 then, and buy some high power greys to craft with

[true dome]

Unless theres an artificial cap it would presumably be the sum of the highest value you can get on each of the 5 bars. Which would vary by weapon

[twin swallow]

So.... you unlock the curio slot at level 5, but can only equip your first curio at level 10...? Is that a bug and is there any way around it?

[true dome]

I think you unlock your first curio slot at level 8

[twin swallow]

Ok level 8

[ashen depot]

yeah lvl 8, you need to have two curious to equip one

its a bug

[twin swallow]

Ok that sucks...

[true dome]

Huh... that hasn't affected me

I've just been able to equip it

[twin swallow]

Leveled up my Vet and Psy over the weekend, encountered it for both

[true dome]

Might only be in the most recent patch. I think my zealot and psyker both levelled to 8 more than a few days ago

[tough cove]

How does one enter the experimental branch for extra logging on crashes? (its not listed in the steam betas)

My friend occasionally crashes and I told him to go on there, but its' not in the drop down
Edit: found it, it's code: cTYPtKTsfMDsLHAV

[ionic wigeon]

Blackout missions without flashlight sucks

[small locust]

someone achieved the Overwatch for Vet?

[rigid wasp]

My first run none of us had one. Somehow still cleared the mission after 2 daemonhosts too

My team immediately got lost the second after the mission start lol

[tight cedar]

yeah i got it legit

[small locust]

how?

[tight cedar]

just have to have a somewhat competent team and to keep your head on a swivel

[small locust]

meh

then I wait for the cosmetic to come out

competent team should be an achievement by itself

[tight cedar]

not wrong

[sly zealot]

This worth anything? I consecrated it by accident without looking at the damage bar (VT's system was so much simpler...)

[small locust]

rare master starts 480+

[sly zealot]

Hey gotta have a stopgap somewhere

[rigid wasp]

How much stamina do we actually have anyway? Tf does +3 stamina mean?

[small locust]

the highest I have seen here in DC was 501ish

[sly zealot]

Yeah

[bleak maple]

should i buy it?

[barren oar]

Emperor gives

[sly zealot]

are those stats acceptable though?

I didn't just throw away plasteel for nothing right

[small locust]

wait for your "the emperor takes" 😄

[barren oar]

Took already

[unreal falcon]

you'll be able to reroll that later

wound is still good

[barren oar]

Yeah i know 😛

[unreal falcon]

what sucks is when you get toughness on zealot/ogryn

[small locust]

if you low on plasteel than wait some days/weeks for better reroll

[sly zealot]

ah

[bleak maple]

Which one is better? i love bolt gun so far

[sly zealot]

do we know if we're gonna be able to reroll bars

[unreal falcon]

they havent said anything about that. That's why you're seeing everyone looking for high rated gray weapons with strong bars

[sly zealot]

Yup

I think I screwed up then

I remember buying this yesterday and then deciding not to consecrate it because it had low bars

and then I just forgot about all that this morning

[unreal falcon]

kinda, it'll do the job, but you do want to replace it with higher damage stat weapon

[sly zealot]

I already have a purple with higher dmg

[unreal falcon]

back to the plasteel grind then

[sly zealot]

yup

probably should have just consecrated this instead lmao

[proven escarp]

How important is defence for a shield?

[unreal falcon]

oh evisc has shred huh

[proven escarp]

is my first opportunity to buy one; which is 'better'?

[unreal falcon]

the first one

defense is probably more valuable at higher levels

but if your rating is 200-300 you probably want damage

[bleak maple]

253 blue

[mellow sage]

Sniper is the better lv 10 feat for veteran, right ?

[unreal falcon]

the grenade regen is crazy good too

30 grenades in a 30 min mission is insane

[proven escarp]

Any thoughts on Grenade launcher vs rumbler for the ogryn?

[little atlas]

The grenade gauntlet has a melee attack that automatically counts as a heavy.

[gilded pond]

So uh there’s not much reason to use any other Vet melee weapon other than the Power Sword from an efficiency standpoint, right?

[little atlas]

Played Magistrati Oublette, found 3 demon hosts, killed all of them.
Priest said to avoid them, I told him "Is demon. Needs killing"

[proven escarp]

cuz i see both as good; Which is an auto heavy?

Seems rumbler can do weird shit with angles, and can snipe snipers etc. GG has some melee and has multiple rounds to do more aoe but that aoe seems smaller.

[little atlas]

The Blastoom Mk3 Grenadier Gauntlet is the one with the automatically heavy melee

I run that on a bleed build (causing bleed on heavy and gaining damage mitigations for bleeding foes), very tanky

[proven escarp]

Sure; but which is the heavy melee? The left click, or the special attack before the explosion?

[little atlas]

The regular left click

[proven escarp]

Every hit?

[little atlas]

Yes, the entire 3-hit combo.

[normal tendon]

Grenade gauntlet unironically is one of the best special killers in the game

[vital relic]

is it just me or does the psyker feel underpowered?

[normal tendon]

It can one shot most of the backline specials on damnation with the right perks and damage, and it basically always one shots pox exploders.

Rumbler is pretty trash though imo.

[gilded pond]

General consensus is that BB falls off damage-wise into higher difficulties

[inland imp]

Does anyone have a spreadsheet or any info on the possible perks and blessings for weapon types?

[bitter summit]

Anyone got a favorite Autogun?

[rigid wasp]

Hey uh, just, dunno if this is the right spot but, anyone know what you're meant to do to deal with a daemonhost?

I managed to banish one in a group once, but later in the same mission another seemingly appeared

[bitter summit]

you're not meant to deal with it at all, avoid it at unless you got an Ogryn with a shield

[heavy shuttle]

walk past it while flipping it off

[rigid wasp]

least I have the achievement

[bitter summit]

that's all you need

it's basically a L4D witch, just avoid it

[rigid wasp]

alrighty

thanks for the information

[bitter summit]

ogryn with shield can tank it nonstop tho

[vital relic]

okay because i was doing the higher level stuff and i did feel like i was being out done by every other class except for killing specials

• side note losing charge on a brain blast because some one else got a kill sucks ( because i get my toughness trough that )

[gilded pond]

I haven’t personally leveled my Psyker, but I def do see others with similar complaints

[spice sigil]

dammnnnnn

[boreal musk]

LF penance help: ogryn bull rush 4 ogryn enemies

[spice sigil]

just consecrated that 2nd blessing in

[heavy shuttle]

thats a very nice flashlight

[boreal musk]

"Gone bowling" penance

[bleak maple]

is it worth buying?

[spice sigil]

Will there be a way to raise gear lvl of weps?

[gilded pond]

:0

[heavy shuttle]

cash or premium?

[slow crest]

Is the complete 25 missions contract bugged and uncompleteable?

Mine is stuck at 15/25 it seems.

[sharp root]

i finished mine this week

[slow crest]

Hmm weird, I'll do some more testing then before I re-roll. Cheers!

[west notch]

these are terrible lol

[spark elk]

I always pay to roll over those

[west notch]

i have 2 left so it's tempting to try but it's miserable tbh it makes me look at the map and wait for it to appear instead of play the game organically

[rigid wasp]

Is it just me that's havin backend errors?

[orchid cove]

Is there a bonus for killing Deamonhosts?

[late forge]

Mental trauma mostly

[west notch]

Pride and blessing of Big E

[orchid cove]

Thats all i need

[winter obsidian]

Hi guts is this the right plate to Ask for pennance aid?

*guys

[sturdy cargo]

what are your favourite psyker level 5 feats?

[fresh lion]

Hi is their anyway to transfer money or item between operative?

[winter obsidian]

No i dont think so

[gilded pond]

what's a scab?

[fresh lion]

crap ... that gonna be a lot of farm to get all 4 of them lvl and build if you want to be usefull with your friend ...

[west notch]

I played about 25h this week and managed to barely do 2

i'm almost done with 2nd one (see above 😄 😄 )

[winter obsidian]

They might bring in a stash system at somre point maybe

[fresh lion]

hope so , i all horde survival game you can exchange item and currency between you character (and in tide it was an all in one so...)

[winter obsidian]

I want the chest for the monstrum psyker pennance but it is impossible unless a solo run becomes available

[little atlas]

Today I've learned that the demon host will cause corruption even if you don't take any damage.

[west notch]

Solo will be available at launch or shortly thereafter according to patch notes 1.0.6 🙂

[winter obsidian]

Oh great

[west notch]

Private lobby (with 1 2 or 3 friends) shortly after, current target end of dec (yes with 3 friends you don't need a private lobby but whatevs lol)

[winter obsidian]

I suppose id have to kill the bots somehow though haha

Unless their damage dosent count

[bleak maple]

premium

[charred turret]

An achievement and a penance completion for your first one.

[cobalt salmon]

does flamer dmg stack or it makes sense for only one per team?

[orchid cove]

no exp bonus or something per kill?

10% chance of Gift from the big E

[nocturne thicket]

Lmao what the fuck is the deal with the Daemonhost? That thing is actually fucking busted.

[uncut tangle]

It's those rapid attacks

And for some reason randoms always attack it

[nocturne thicket]

A boss that can't be staggered or interrupted who also teleports

[cobalt salmon]

get Ogryn with shield
let him tank

[dense moat]

wow you got lucky

[uncut tangle]

Like why, had to fight 2 of the HR 3 we saw a few games ago

[nocturne thicket]

Yeah that sure helps me while I am in a mission without one.

I had to fight 2 of them back to back as well

Barely managed to take out the first one only to have the second one come out a minute later

[uncut tangle]

If there was a reward like loot dice I get it but when you can just avoid them it's tilting

Since theory crafting isn't very helpful atm, what prefixs should I be looking out for a bolter and recon

[heavy shuttle]

pass, looking for better perks

[sudden axle]

what mission type am I mising if I've done raid, assassination, strike, espionage, repair, and disruption

[uncut tangle]

Investigation

[winter obsidian]

The Scanner ikon one

[sudden axle]

damn i don't recall ever even seeing one of those

[uncut tangle]

Should see a the scan symbol

Kinda like the aliens scanner

[tired crown]

They'll show up again, there are two maps with it.

I think two, I know investigate the new plague strain is one.

[uncut tangle]

In water town for both I believe

[ivory kettle]

is it just me or is the cliffhanger penance needlessly annoying?

[winter obsidian]

I did it solo with bots luckily

[tired crown]

I think a lot of them are needlessly annoying, lol

[uncut tangle]

Some feel tedious and hinders the team while others make sensr

[winter obsidian]

Assassination mission had the bots try and follow me over this gap and they fall, then waited for a horde and pushed them

[tired crown]

They just need to be revisited

[uncut tangle]

Like the kill 5 elites in 1 volly fire or 100% accuracy are great

But I hate the ogryn and psyker ones

Like who wants to suicide to kill 3 elites

[winter obsidian]

Psyker ones are a sod ^

[patent sapphire]

kill a monstrosity with only brain burst damage is actual insanity

[vital relic]

im giving up on playing as psyker is the soldier class any good ?

[heavy shuttle]

100% accuracy often times as the vet using their melee only and then at the end expending all ammo at dropship

[molten pawn]

sharpshooter is busted if you are good at the game

[winter obsidian]

That’s the one I’m after haha

[tired crown]

Yeah it's great, incredibly strong.

[heavy shuttle]

Perhaps one the strongest

[uncut tangle]

Oh really I just used the plasma gun and killed elites exclusively

[sour flower]

is investigation disabled?

[vital relic]

😁 thank you ill try him/her out

[winter obsidian]

They’re on a rotation I think

[vital relic]

👍

[sour flower]

whats the rotation?

[cedar egret]

You know the strat for clear the veteran 3 kill no bing bong grenade ?

[molten pawn]

if you can melee well and create space to use any of the 3 meta weapons its gg

[grave ocean]

Malice is medium difficulty right?

[uncut tangle]

Do it on long maps

[little atlas]

Yes. Malice is 3 of 5

[uncut tangle]

Aim about 90 degrees up and tap the key

Don't hold

[heavy shuttle]

Ive played veteran exclusively... never heard of a bing bong grenade

[grave ocean]

Cheers, gonna try so that one in the chamber penance

[winter obsidian]

I’m not sure, I didn’t get the espionage one until last night…

[sour flower]

dangit

[gilded pond]

There's lots of wide open space and crowds at the start of missions. Its just some trial and error to learn where it explodes from there

[cedar egret]

dam lot of fun

[uncut tangle]

Wasn't to bad once I got the angle right and got the right map

[austere epoch]

@cedar egret I got mine at the end of missions, standing near the extraction plane and just long chucking grenades at the hordes running after us.

dont remember the exact mission

[cedar egret]

Mh ok thanks

[uncut tangle]

@cedar egret also don't hold key just tap it

Makes it a half throw and lob

[cedar egret]

Just lauch no scop?

[austere epoch]

i held mine tbh

[rapid ermine]

Welp thats one cleave machine

[cedar egret]

For me is really cool

[lyric yarrow]

Same question as above, traits/blessings good?

should be alright?

[cedar egret]

Really cool

What is the power max ?

[lyric yarrow]

no idea

[cedar egret]

I think 500🤔

[patent sapphire]

it's more than 500

[cedar egret]

Ah

[patent sapphire]

not known for sure yet afaik

[winter obsidian]

Out of curiosity is it only psyker that has a solo damage penance?

[patent sapphire]

i've seen like 507

in screenshots here

[cedar egret]

Maybe 510?

[winter obsidian]

507 Jesus

[cedar egret]

And every maj ad 10

Like destiny

[winter obsidian]

skiddooosh gimme those delicious points

[rapid ermine]

Why in hell are your mission so easy!?`!?!

[winter obsidian]

😂

[cedar egret]

WTF

[winter obsidian]

Luck I guess

[cedar egret]

My mission is fucking hell and you its easy pisy

[rapid ermine]

Meanwhile my missions are pretty much on the level of me looking at them and just going "Yeah, fuck those points. I aint even bothering with this shit"

[cedar egret]

I have mission its dont get you toutch by ennemis wtf

[winter obsidian]

I’m a psyker though so nothing of interest for me to nab yet..

[spice sigil]

Any group wanna help me with 100% acc penance? best done on lights out because no endless hordes

[sudden axle]

i full cleared a vet and ogryn this 'week'. haven't rolled a zealot or psyker yet

[winter obsidian]

Thanks bollocks

*thats

[cedar egret]

Bollocks ?

[winter obsidian]

Bullshit

Haha

[cedar egret]

Ah yes of cours

[hardy temple]

Emperor's Gift, that just random or?

[sudden axle]

im hoping melk rolls me up a mastercrafted power sword

wouldn't that be nice..

[winter obsidian]

Very

[cedar egret]

I think is for the best player of the game

[sudden axle]

a good bolter or an infernus accatrans would be nice too

[rapid ermine]

Doubt that, or i am being grouped with absolute smooth brains

[cedar egret]

You too smart dude

[rapid ermine]

I am zealot that is brainlessly charging in to melee with my big ass chainsword with the fully thought out tactic of "CHAINSWORD GOES WRRRR" and i am getting those gifts

[hardy temple]

Yeah, doubt that, was carrying 3 of my level 1 friends, in haz 2 for like 10 games in a row yesterday and none of us got any gifts at all, then today I got 3 in a row.

[gilded pond]

They're called Ogryns sir!

[cedar egret]

Maybe reward for play

Like first play gift 5 play gift 10 play gift etc

[rapid ermine]

My quess is that the reward is just something like small % chance to get it every match

[rustic dirge]

what stat do I want on a shield as the big lad?

[little atlas]

Big numbers. Big Numbers good.

[neat robin]

anyone need help getting the "make every shot cout" ?

[cedar egret]

[rapid ermine]

IMO every stat should just be some alien symbols for ogryns.

[hardy temple]

Aye

[rustic dirge]

Yes, but what about the "ability"

[umbral glade]

what is this..."flash" mission?

[cedar egret]

For ogryn everything is mele weapon

[winter obsidian]

Appears in rotation for very short time?

[little atlas]

That's why Ogryns don't get Plasma Weapons. Ogryn would use it to bash things, resulting in "big boom"

[normal tendon]

Not in the game yet

[pure ravine]

Yeah guys ! Do you know what to do against demonic host ? He's just killin' 2 of us and leave and we dont know how to deal with

[normal tendon]

Don't fucking attack it

[cedar egret]

Big boom is cool but big boom boom is better

[rapid ermine]

the fuck is a demonic host?

[cedar egret]

[storm talon]

Is there a list of how good/ Best to worse for Blessings on weapons?

[little atlas]

Easy. Let the Ogryn pull and tank it. Everyone else just does Dps.

[normal tendon]

If you do, melt it when it grabs people.

Ogryn nades to the head melt the fuck out of it.

[little atlas]

You'll see soon enough.

[pure ravine]

Okay we'll try ! Thx guys

[signal cipher]

Your also not meant to fight it

[normal tendon]

Well, sometimes

There's a few cases where it can't be skipped.

[little atlas]

Is Demon, needs killing.

[rapid ermine]

doubt it as my playstyle is to close my eyes and go "LA LA LA LA" while swinging a chainsword around everything that makes a noise

[reef basin]

is there a reason I am unable to upgrade a weapon when I have the required resources?

[normal tendon]

Post picture

Might be a bug though, I think white weapons can't be right now or something?

[signal cipher]

Agreed, I adore that it's lore accurate,

If the demon gets nerfed other lore accurate things like the bolter need to be nerfed

[reef basin]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198042614892/screenshots/

[little atlas]

Well, the Demonhost is a "special" enemy akin to the Witch in L2D... you recognize it by the edges of your screen freezing and a loud whispering... and if you wake it... then the fun begins.

[reef basin]

.....moment..

[normal tendon]

Well I mean, lore accurate Beast of Nurgle should end us all instantly

Lore accurate las weapons shouldn't be able to be tanked by us like we do.

[reef basin]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2894212582

[normal tendon]

Might just be a bug

[little atlas]

It's a known bug.

[normal tendon]

I've heard there's some issues

[reef basin]

alright. didn't know if it was a bug or not since was getting the same error on my blue flamer

[signal cipher]

You need to appease the machine spirit

[reef basin]

thought might've been an 'amount of times an item can be upgraded' thing

[feral gust]

I tried chaging the FOV (im new at this setting), it doesn't seem to do anything ... is this only 'in-game'?

[little atlas]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/upgrading-thunder-hammer-error/60347

[twin swallow]

Are there any options to turn off the Peril effects around the screen? Kind of distracting to have that on screen like 90% of the time in missions...

[little atlas]

Also https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/known-issue-thunder-hammer-cannot-be-consecrated/60998

[signal cipher]

You can turn them off by playing any other class

[twin swallow]

Yeah sure, or not playing the game at all

[little atlas]

Similarly you can turn off the "freezing edge of the screen" effect by killing the Demonhost.

[signal cipher]

True!

[twin swallow]

You can do even better by ripping the HDMI cable out of your monitor

Won't have to see anything

[feral gust]

some people are crabby today

[little atlas]

I'd love it if instead of exploding, the Psyker would turn into a Demonhost of Tzeentch upon going over Critical Peril.

[grave ocean]

What guns have like 0 ammo in their magazine

[winter obsidian]

Fists

[grave ocean]

Im doing the last clip kill penance

[tired crown]

Revolver has 6

[grave ocean]

Oooo ye

[little atlas]

Uhm.... the Flamer? Does that have Ammo?

[tired crown]

And only 32 rounds spare iirc

[rigid wasp]

@reef basin it's doing you a favor, save your resources for something worth using them on

[tight shale]

Is there any way to actually see which missions you have and haven't done on Heresy+?

[signal cipher]

Jokes aside you can't, most psyker stuff has big aoe or auto aim so there isn't really a downside but it's important to note that the effects exist to help people with less then ideal levels of grey matter, gauge how close they are go becoming a victim brain burst

[old phoenix]

Not directly, you can see how many of each mission you’ve completed and figure it out from there

[tight shale]

Doesn't that lump all difficulties of each mission together?

[bleak maple]

can i check my ping in the game?

[manic dune]

besides lowering every setting in video graphics as low as i can, is there anything else i can do to boost my FPS in darktide?

i have a low end pc

[old phoenix]

Yeah but if you count the number then hit quick play on malice you can cross reference after a few games to check what you’ve completed

[manic dune]

i know this must be a common question

[tight shale]

Ah, that makes sense

[signal cipher]

Try reading
There are three tiers one for in general, Malice, and heresy

[old phoenix]

Or do what I’m doing and write down which missions you’ve selected on a post it note XD

[blazing igloo]

After the departure from the game, the achievement "The Emperor protects" broke down for me. No matter how I tried to perform it after the crash of the game, it is broken. Writes 600/600 seconds and that's it. Has anyone had a similar trouble?

[signal cipher]

Oh btw Guradaman#24152, your profile picture is cute

[tight shale]

Bruh. They just tell you how many out of the seven mission types. They don't say which ones.

[old phoenix]

Lol

Ty

[tight shale]

Try reading

[old phoenix]

You can farm this by tanking hits from the new daemonhost.
But if it’s bugged you’ll need to report it to the devs

[blazing igloo]

@old phoenixI tried to feed on it - the achievement doesn't work anyway.

[old phoenix]

Damn

[signal cipher]

Probably just bugged then

[sage glacier]

what's a good level and equipment power to start difficulty 4?

[blazing igloo]

@old phoenixIt seems only through a report

[old phoenix]

Hopefully you get it later on when the game catches up

[heavy shuttle]

28-30 Trust level. You want your weapons as close to 400 as you can. Curios around 100

[tired crown]

I didn't start level 4 until I was level 30 with decent gear, 400 items and around 100 curios

[sage glacier]

is 400 max level for blues?

[tired crown]

It gives you a good base to work with so your damage and survivability is about as good as it can get. I've had a few heresy missions that were downright easy thanks to good teamwork, others a nightmare because people weren't ready to work together

[uncut tangle]

Blues can go above 400

[signal cipher]

I'd say 20 and, whatever your comfortable with for equipment, your always going to do better with stuff you like more.

Sure bolter and power sword are meta, but I adore the quickdraw and enjoy the clutch gaming

[uncut tangle]

From what I heard its best to get 350 grays and upgrade them

[little atlas]

Oranges can go over 500

[old phoenix]

Oh and try to get curios with wounds bonuses, you’ll live longer

[thorn imp]

i have a blue 410

[tired crown]

We had a level 7 in our heresy game last night, at first I thought they were max level but with basic clothes but they showed me.

[signal cipher]

Also this is a lie it has five, don't disrespect the quickdraw like this

[old phoenix]

Yeah they loosened the matchmaking last week to compensate for errors

[sage glacier]

i'm level 23 psyker rn, and difficulty 3 is very easy, should i still hold off until 30?

[edgy loom]

So I finally see an espionage map but its Damnation level, I saw the same thing yesterday too. Are there ever espionage maps not at that difficulty? I need that to finally complete my penance

[winter obsidian]

Yes

[tired crown]

If you're comfortable trying, go for it! If 3 is too easy then your skill level can help make up for lack of actual level

[little atlas]

Yeah, probably a good idea to hold off. Heresy is spicy because it has "infinite hordes" passively.

[sage glacier]

i don't even know what infinite hordes do tbh, seems the same

[tired crown]

But brain burst doesn't 1shot a lot of things in heresy like it does malice

[old phoenix]

In theory it should change difficulty when it times out.
But yesterday it disappeared after one showing so I’m not 100% sure

[errant hinge]

anyone know a good built for psyker? i want to focus on playing support with the thunder/electric staff :p

[little atlas]

In short: things spawn faster than you can headpop them.... and even faster than your Lightning, warpfire, etc... it's just lots and lots of enemies.

[sage glacier]

i've been only using staff lately, no BB at all, is that wrong?

[tired crown]

You'll be ready for heresy then, lol.

[uncut tangle]

Brainburat helps but depends on stafd

[tired crown]

BB keeps up your buffs but it loses efficacy on latter difficulties

[thorn imp]

what is coherancy

[tired crown]

But you can get passives to generate buffs without relying on it

[errant hinge]

No one? ^^

[light flume]

Staying close to teammates

[thorn imp]

ty

[sage glacier]

ye that's what i'm doing

[signal cipher]

Are you having fun with it? If so go for it luv

Nothing is really bad in the game

[errant hinge]

That wasn't my question. ^^

[light flume]

No thinking or experimenting internet advice only

[signal cipher]

My answer was basically everything works well enough

[little atlas]

Each class has an "Aura" of Bonus... and if you are near your team-mates, you get their Bonuses too. Additionally, being close to your teammates increases your Toughness-regeneration passively.
For example, if you're near an Ogryn, your Heavy Attacks will do more damage. If you're near a Psyker, you will do more damage to Elites... etc.

[heavy shuttle]

no sir

[sharp root]

That's what I've been running for surge/thunder psyker

[errant hinge]

I kinda mean the Feats thing haha

[normal tendon]

I have a 425 blue

Or 427

[errant hinge]

this staff right?

[sharp root]

Yup.

[errant hinge]

thanks, i'll check it out 😄

[winter obsidian]

There’s a sedition level espionage on right now if someone needs it

[rustic dirge]

How is this shield?

[sharp root]

If it helps, this is the staff i've landed on for it currently. I spam electric quickly for stuns, and stay high peril when I can. Then, use Psykinetics Wrath when I overheat (hit 100%) or need to spam more.

[real raft]

Still gettin' the backend error here, even with the experimental beta.

[heavy shuttle]

error 2007? or just flat backend error?

[real raft]

Flat backend, no error code showing up.

[peak valve]

IMO they need to gate the difficulty levels more. You run into way too many level 4's in Malice and so forth

[real raft]

It's a little frustrating, have tried VPN's, changing my DNS, reinstalling, etc.

[tiny granite]

are different versions of weapons (MKII, MKV, etc.) tell weapon tier, or they're different weapons entirely?

[little atlas]

Not bad at low/mid level... but I would look for something with higher itemrating at level 30

[little atlas]

They're different PATTERNS of the same weapon category. But if that makes it easier for you, think of them as different weapons

[heavy shuttle]

checked the fat shark forums? they have some good shit on there

[real raft]

Yup

tried it all

[old phoenix]

They loosened the matchmaking to compensate for the joining game errors.
Hopefully it will get better once the errors go away

[tiny granite]

ic, thx

[old phoenix]

The different patterns behave differently as well.
With the helbore the lowest pattern fires fastest but does least damage, and they get slower but more powerful from there

[silent beacon]

man I feel like malic got harder I am in a party with 20s and up and we are getting demolished. I was crushing these with parties of 15s Tuesday

[warped osprey]

Man, using Voidstaff and the Blessing that loses peril when you headshot feels so good

[sleek light]

Malice have gotten easier so I'm not sure, maybe you're just having bad groups?

[stuck ridge]

now I'm jealous lmao

[crude radish]

How have we gotten 2 deamonhosts in 1 level

Wtf

[mighty seal]

Anyone got any ideas why I get this?

[old phoenix]

You can get 4

[warped osprey]

When wiping a horde with headshots you basically never get high peril

[stuck ridge]

Certain Maps are harder on Malice than others. Malice on the Disruption Map was REALLY hard when I did it the other day with Vet.

[little atlas]

I got 8 demonhosts over 2 levels (in malice)... killed 7 of them.

[crude radish]

They are OP as is so why in Gods name would there be more than 1

[heavy shuttle]

nurgle likes to share his toys

[old phoenix]

You’re supposed to avoid them unless absolutely necessary

[storm talon]

What does this mean? more power

[silent beacon]

huh yeah must be bad groups i guess

[little atlas]

They are not op. They can be avoided if you're really terrified of them... but you can also kill them with relative ease if you know what you're doing.

[crude radish]

Kinda hard to they just stand in the way

[silent beacon]

2 of my fails have been on the surface desert looking map

[little atlas]

If you find one that can't be avoided... would you mind posting a screenshot of them (so we can see the map and location)?

[old phoenix]

They’re the witch in L4D.
Avoid if you can, only engage when everyone is ready.
If you accidentally trigger one it’s gonna hurt

[crude radish]

I mean it was a dark map so idk brother

[crude radish]

Yup we got wiped

[little atlas]

As Shield-Ogryn I pull them, I tank them, my party kills them. Doesn't seem so hard for Ogryn.

[tiny granite]

the firerate/damage you mentioned, this is separates with the weapon stat bars right?
as far as I know so far, stat bars are meant to compare only the weapon with the exact same name, so what you said is the base stat of the pattern, then randomize stat bars apply. correct?

[storm talon]

Is there aggro ingame?

[little atlas]

The DH is aggro-locked to whoever pulled/woke them.

[sage glacier]

yes

[old phoenix]

What mindblower said, the other bosses agro on whoever is doing the most damage

[thorn imp]

feels pointless doing herasy w randoms

[verbal wagon]

Was just playing with a full group of friends, we killed like 6 witches...ogryn just face tanks with shield and it's easy...w/o shield ogryn could be very tough.

[old phoenix]

It’s just how the charge behaves on the helbore, I’m not sure how the stat bars work

[old phoenix]

I managed to tank one for almost a minute as a vet

[sour flower]

is there a specific rotation? i need to do investigation but i havent seen it in two whole days

[little atlas]

For Melee Weapons, the Patterns separate Movesets. The Dueling Sword have Mk2, mk4, mk5 in the game and the light- and heavy-attack swings are different.

[verbal wagon]

yeah forsure, but I bet you need to move around a lot? Shield ogy can just back against a wall and lock them in place.

[sharp root]

I feel like I should of realized this 90 hours ago, as this explains a lot

[cold tiger]

is there any point in using trauma over voidstrike?

[old phoenix]

I was pinned against a wall by the boss and a horde, I was managing to block most hits in a flurry except the last one so it was killing me just slower

[little atlas]

The biggest Problem about Demonhosts is that they will cause CORRUPTION on you even if you take Zero actual damage. So it's a bit of a DPS-Race

[old phoenix]

Yeah I died eventually cause no one was shooting the host

[verbal wagon]

oh really? But wouldn't you lose all your stamina super fast? @old phoenix

[sharp root]

ogryns can plant shield

[little atlas]

Ogryn Shield's Special doesn't consume Stamina while blocking.

[old phoenix]

Yeah, it was regenerating just fast enough to keep me from getting wrecked

[white saffron]

oops caps

[little zinc]

cant wait for trait crafting.. lol

[tiny granite]

ah that explains why one of my combat axe swings first two attacks faster than the rest

[plush galleon]

you think this new one (left) is worth replacing my old one (right) with? fewer cleave targets, but more cleave damage and wrath seems cool

[rain dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/179924045796605952/1046449399531843656/image.png

:)

[hollow slate]

nice perks on that one!

[glad radish]

Speaking about Demonhosts, This has to be a visual bug correct?

Achievement/ Penance Spoiler BTW

[hollow slate]

i have one with 20% damage on multiple hit and +3 bleed stacks at 454

[hollow slate]

only thing that sucks is the super low mobility

[little zinc]

no... people are literally getting squad wiped by these things... im telling you...

[plush galleon]

I do wish I knew what all these weapon stats meant- what does Collateral mean on my recon lasgun?

[old phoenix]

Not sure, I haven’t killed one yet

[rain dew]

yeah can't have it all tho, sadge

[old phoenix]

And it might be that only the person who gets the kill gets the achievement?

[rustic dirge]

Cheers, I am 20 so it should do

[little atlas]

That's super outdated. Steam caches those numbers. See the one from the "Global Comparison screen" instead.

[glad radish]

As long as you did damage on it I don't think so, i didn't get the kill either, but I definitely hit it...

[patent sapphire]

yes if you check the global achievement stats it has the correct number

[old phoenix]

Ah there you go.
Good old steam XD

[silent beacon]

bro can the malice director chill just lost another one with lights out director sent 2 trappers a horde 2 dogs 4 maulers 2 flamers and 2 snipers at the same time against 2 psykers and 2 bots

[wary horizon]

daemonhost only comes out in malice or higher?

[little atlas]

I think it's possible on all difficulties... just fewer on lower settings. On Malice I've see 4 per map.

[old phoenix]

Yeah malice does seem to randomly spam specials occasionally

[shrewd pendant]

is there an excel sheet or something with all possible perks and blessings weapons can have?

what does mobility do on melee weapons, faster running speed with the weapon out?

[inland imp]

Can ogryns get a slab shield with momentum on it?

[little atlas]

it affects Sprinting and dodging iirc

As in "faster acceleration to max speed", "slower stamina drain", "slower dodge DR", "dodge further", etc

[stuck ridge]

I think Daemonhosts are a cool concept, but they need to have their "Kill a Downed Enemy" ability Interruptable somehow.

[finite vine]

Yeah, ogryn charge or something

[tired crown]

@inland imp https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/lasgun-infantry/kantrael-mg-xii-infantry-lasgun

That shows every weapon with every potential blessing / trait

[stuck ridge]

Like I've had fun fighting the two I have so far, but man, like, X amount of Weakspot Damage within X seconds, or Ogryn Charge, or Psyker Ability should interrupt their ability channel.

[spice sigil]

Apparently 10% accuracy cheese no longer works? anyone confirm or deny?

[inland imp]

I love you

[spice sigil]

100%

[tired crown]

I love you too

[sudden axle]

It's interruptable by killing the daemonhost.

[little atlas]

Even with the L30 Talent, Ogryns can not charge through Monstrosities. And the DH seems to be more than just a little monstrous

[sudden axle]

Pop vet's talent and unload a full bolter clip into their head while they're staying still force choking someone

You will do a great deal of damage 🙂

[tired crown]

They're clearly just hungry, feed them a bolter magazine.

[little atlas]

Or let them Nom-nom on the ogryn's shield

[tired crown]

I haven't had an ogryn teammate with a shield since they were introduced 😦

Just a lasgun and a power sword, gotta go full Hammer of The Emperor on em

[stuck ridge]

Well duh. But their health is such that they can't easily be killed before they down someone

[rain dew]

don't need one

[sharp root]

You gotta have the moves and keep blocking, ogryn isn't needed but helpful.

[sudden axle]

yeah, ogryn with shield is straight up immune to dhosts

[little atlas]

Everyone should have an Ogryn.

[sudden axle]

plant the tower in a corner and just let it wail on you forever while your teammates kill it

[neon aurora]

I'm wondering if she could be the perfect target for the psyker penance

[little atlas]

Not really, just VERY resilient... as the DH will cause corruption even if the Ogryn doesn't actually take damage.

[rain dew]

i dont disagree, i'm just saying that the people that think ogryn need to use a shield to be useful because they personally don't know how to dodge need to stop talking

[white saffron]

im missing one more mission to get a helmet for my sharpshooter, is maybe it isn't out until release?

[west notch]

is it me or the servers are a bit under strain today? 🙂 🙂

(i would say it's a gud thing it more people are playing ^^)

[little atlas]

Not sure I agree with the recent Dodge-Nerfs... but hey, it's a valid opinion to have.

But you're right... Ogryns have more options for support than just to be reduced to shield-bearer.

The upside of the shield is that you can be immune to both melee and ranged damage.. the downside is that the shield has the lowest push-distance of all weapons - which means the Ogryn effectively loses the power to "make space" for the group

[formal tendon]

Does cliffhanger need to be on Heresy like Warp Battery?

[tired crown]

There have been all mission types available at one point or another but since they rotate randomly you won't see them all at once

[stuck ridge]

I love Ogryns. I wanna hug them.

[rain dew]

i've failed missions because my veteran didn't bring a mk xii on heresy/damnation than i have because i didn't bring a shield, but i've never heard people try and verbally bully a veteran into changing their loadout like i have on multiple occasions about not having a shield in this disc, lol

[heavy shuttle]

its becoming more common

[stuck ridge]

What did mankind do to deserve Ogryns 😔

[tired crown]

Lost contact with human colonies on barren, frozen worlds for thousands of years?

[west notch]

we won!

[stuck ridge]

That's how they came around, but Ogryns deserve better than the Imperium. They're just, Good Lads.

[tired crown]

I'd argue everyone deserves better than The Imperium, honestly.

[heavy shuttle]

mission refresh. another wave approach-th

[little atlas]

Well... not be "that" xenophobic. I mean, The Imperium tolerates several abhuman types, be it Ogryns or Ratlings...

[west notch]

to be fair anyone deserves better than the imperium haha

[rigid wasp]

the xenos, heretics, and daemons sure don't...

[stuck ridge]

I dunno, seems like a perfect fit for Inquisitor Darkhammer. Bitch deserves to fuckin die.

[feral gust]

Are there any advantages to using melee vs chain-melee-of-same-type?
(basically, why are heavy swords still a thing at higher levels?)

[stuck ridge]

Inquisitor Horst: Based, Cool, Genuinely treats Chaos as a Threat to Mankind and will sacrifice himself if necessary

Inquistor Darkhammer: Cringe, treats Chaos either like something to be eradicated or whatever justifies his next budget inflation, legitimately has no clue how to do his fucking job

[west notch]

you have a book to recommend? i'm a book fan first ^^

[little atlas]

Reading any Dan Abnett Books is a great idea... given that Dan is the Principle Writer for Darktide

[west notch]

i meant specifically for darkhammer

[mighty seal]

Any good Zealot weapon combos, I'm currently running hammer and flamer

[lyric bramble]

K

I've seen a guy run around with revolver and knife which seemed interesting

[narrow hill]

thats what I'm using too and it is fun as hell imo

[stuck ridge]

I haven't read many of the Books themselves, haha. They are Long....

But, Horst and Darkhammer are the two Inquisitors who feature in the two Battlefleet Gothic games. Horst also gets some time to shine in one of the Greyfax books, where he basically ||sacrifices himself to contain a Daemon in the Warp, and then lures Grefax there so she kills him, destroying it for good||

[mighty seal]

I also saw one running a knife

[mighty seal]

For sure

[lyric bramble]

Their both very satisfying weapons tbh

[narrow hill]

I honestly dont like the revolver all too.much , but thats also because I am ass at hitting heads

[west notch]

it wreally depends on your team because of the many enemy types... coordinate if you are weak against elite switch to bolter. Flamer is insane vs bosses mostly but slow vs elites imo

[mighty seal]

Keep getting "unable to preform operation" when trying to upgrade my hammer to purple

[narrow hill]

saaame here. was about to ask about that

[mighty seal]

I mostly run pubs, as I don't really have any friends that play

[lyric bramble]

Ah man i'm aweful at hitting heads. Atleast it has less muzzle sway which is what forced me to drop the Lucius

[mighty seal]

So I think Hammer and Flamer is pretty decent to fit in with most teams

[stuck ridge]

Oddly enough, I really like the Accatran Recon for this purpose. It has low recoil and a massive magazine so you have time to sight in on heads

[rain dew]

as long as they aren't about women lol

[lyric bramble]

women 🤮

[west notch]

?

[lyric bramble]

I here that his Gaunts Ghosts books have interesting female characers

but the early books just kinda have the sexy fem-fatale

[west notch]

yes

[lyric bramble]

early books meaning eisenhorn and ravenor

[west notch]

his astartes at the start were horrible too super week

weak

[stuck ridge]

Honestly sometimes it's funny to see a writer go from mediocre fanboy to actually solid writer

[rain dew]

astartes would be way cooler if they were more explicitly knightly

[stuck ridge]

Oh, funniest thing about Warhammer 40k Lore: Writers have no sense of scale for Mass.

[steady kernel]

so true, some of the descriptions of planetary warfare is basicly ww2 battles.

[lyric bramble]

Which I kinda understand. GRRM is also bad at that kinda stuff

[stuck ridge]

Like, Battle Titans are rated at around 2,500 Tons, which is stupidly light. It also means that MGRR Raiden could juggle them.

[lyric bramble]

better to just not reference numbers and leave it vague

because some sweaty nerd will 'um actually' at you

[steady kernel]

your like "Oh yeah see this is basicly a skirmish on the east front all these descriptions are getting a bit bothersome"

[stuck ridge]

Honestly they should have given them Destroyer or Cruiser level Mass

[steady kernel]

but it is a pet peeve.

[stuck ridge]

Because they're more akin to Warships than anything else

[lyric bramble]

go into all the number things and just add a 0 to the end

hundreds become thousands
thousands millions
millions billions

[worldly flame]

anyone else not getting Rosette Inquisitorius from the Path of Trust threshold 6 penance?

[stuck ridge]

So, by point of comparison, the Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers Displace, when fully loaded, 9,700 tons. Meaning there's almost 4 Battle Titans per Arleigh Burke

USS Gerald R Ford displaces about 100,000 tons under full load.

[rain dew]

grrm is bad at a lot of things. it's like he took every bad lesson learned from tolkien and made that his entire style

[lyric bramble]

to bad his pros is so good

[bold bronze]

Is that water displacement, or does that include the amount of displacement they would have if they were fully submerged? Because I imagine it's them 'on top of the water', so it would be even more displacement potentially if they were water-tight.

[lyric bramble]

pink mast and dysentery not withstanding

[stuck ridge]

A ship's Water Displacement is a measure of the weight. It's the mass of the water the ship displaces, and by measuring that mass you get the mass of the ship

[vale walrus]

Is there a button for flashlight on the weapon? Otherwise mine just bugged for a game

[stuck ridge]

If you were to fully submerge the ship, you would be measuring the Volume

[stuck ridge]

M3

[bold token]

Some guns don't come with flashlights

[stuck ridge]

Also this

[vale walrus]

ogryn fleshripper ?

[smoky sierra]

some people for penance run ?

[bold token]

No Ogryn guns have flashlights, all of them have special melee attacks.

[bold bronze]

I guess I just find it confusing because like half the ship is above water...so its hard to understand how the 'half' the ship displaces the whole ship's weight.

[vale walrus]

First time it was so friggin dark on the same map i've had no issues with before

[bold token]

The gravity pulling down on the ship is being equalised by the water repelling it, hence the equivalent mass displacement.

[feral gust]

still missing 1 dreg kill 7/8 (can't believe I havent sighted him/her yet)

[finite vine]

It's a very sneaky one

[spice sigil]

how does tis make sense

[lyric bramble]

same I think

[feral gust]

they're behind me aren't they ... they're ALWAYS behind me

[crystal snow]

Does anyone know if the initial flame hits of the Purgatus Staff can crit

[whole nebula]

Anyone got tips for abhor the mutant on zealot?

feels like I'm doing it over and over but it ain't counting

[patent cedar]

What's a secondary action?

[bold token]

Aiming

[whole nebula]

aim

[patent cedar]

thx

[old phoenix]

It’s aiming, they just don’t say that cause certain guns don’t actually have ADS

[spiral basalt]

I had the mutant charge one of my friends while I revved and heavy attacked with an evi. Clear the horde before killing the mutant and then try to find an open space. Might take a couple attempts.

[whole nebula]

thx dad

[stuck ridge]

To explain it better, uh, no one makes a scale big enough to weigh a boat, but it turns out how we measure weight is the same. Just how much mass it takes to equal the mass of something else.

[naive summit]

do we know what the max item rating is on a white item?

[stuck ridge]

So like, a Balance measures how many metal cubes it takes to equal one unknown item

[wraith nexus]

what is the best skill for level 10

for zealot

i tried looking for a zealot build some of the skills are changed

in those 10 days

[spice sigil]

try em out

[wraith nexus]

alright

[little zinc]

FYI. anyone trying to do the Serial Killer Penance (20 Headshot Kill Consecutively). Go-to weapon is Heavy LasPistol.

[astral comet]

Why so?

[oak palm]

Is the knife any good at high levels?

[little zinc]

my main weapon.

[little zinc]

deadly accurate, steady, and has reticle vs iron sights.

[ornate vector]

On level 4 difficulty. Are the players meant to have less wounds than normal and is it also designed to be endless horde always on?

[little zinc]

yes.

[ornate vector]

cheers

[little zinc]

not endless horde... that changes with different events

[stuck ridge]

Basically, uh, it's pretty much how a Scale works, just you measure it with Water instead of a Spring.

A traditional Scale you stand on measures how much you compress a spring when it is known how much that spring resists being compressed.

Because Water is almost incompressible, it basically works as a giant liquid Spring. You measure how much water gets pushed out of the way and what the weight of that water is, and that is how much the boat (or other object) weighs.

Do Daemonhosts only show up on Power Interruption maps?

[strange spear]

anyone here can confirm that counterfire worked on their deadeye penance this build?

[stuck ridge]

haven't tried it yet

[warped flint]

anybody know what levels have scabs on them? I'm trying to complete a contract

[signal cipher]

They are just far more likely

[stuck ridge]

Scabs I have found are more common on Malice and higher difficulties

[warped flint]

ah thanks

[ornate vector]

2 lvl 4 in a row we got endless horde modifier even if the mission board said no endless horde

So I'll chalk that up to a bug then

[outer bloom]

does anyone know what exactly the alt attack on the turtle sword is?

Also what the point of the turtle sword is

[little zinc]

did you queue as quickplay?

[ornate vector]

4 man queue

[signal cipher]

Turtle sword??? You best send a screen shot

[little zinc]

a specific mission or quickplay? might be worth reporting.

ive had that happen to me. i hit Tab and it says endless horde

could be a tooltip/UI bug

[ornate vector]

2 different ones that weren't marked. as soon as we loaded in we saw endless horde after pressing tab

[outer bloom]

turtlovsky sword

zealot unique weapon

[signal cipher]

Oh

[little zinc]

heavy swords are straight trash bro

[outer bloom]

turtle sword

[zinc brook]

wait does the cube gem max out at 100?

[signal cipher]

Lots of cleave

[little zinc]

good for cleave, but does absolutely no damage. youre better off with the other Sword imo

[outer bloom]

which other sowrd

[little zinc]

one sec let me find it

[outer bloom]

the devil claw?

[little zinc]

yes!

[signal cipher]

The alt does a big chuck of stagger

[little zinc]

devil claw is actually alot better

[outer bloom]

alright that's what that is

I was just not getting the thunder hammer

[signal cipher]

Personally I like the heavy swords

[outer bloom]

loads of single target but struggled with crowds

the eviscerator was alright but I haven't seen one in the shop since ilvl 200

[little zinc]

once you get you THammer, you may not like it. youd imagine it does a lot of cleave but you need to do heavy attacks with it, all the while taking a shit ton of dmg if youre not careful

[outer bloom]

I used the hammer

[signal cipher]

Try heavy attacks instead of spamming lights

[outer bloom]

I didn't like it

[little zinc]

yeah a lot of people dont

[cursive torrent]

is damnation bugged like heresy is?

[outer bloom]

Sweeping heavies you mean

[little zinc]

feels very underwhelming

[feral gust]

why? activated chain does more damage.
I don't know better, I haven't tried heavy

[outer bloom]

weaving an activation into your combo is extra time you may not have

[little zinc]

my go-to melee's are Evis, ChainAxe, Devil Claw, Comb Knife, and Chain Sword

[outer bloom]

also would be nice if other power and chain weapons worked like the power sword and gave you a full combo worth of charge

[signal cipher]

They have some nasty combos if you are comfortable with the weapon

[outer bloom]

weaving an activation into block push activate heavy attack block push activate heavy attack is an extra thing

compared to potentially just block push heavy heavy

[feral gust]

true - but I oneshot dregs(and some normals) and I ONLY ACTIVATE on specials
(chainaxe)

• bullwarks and ogryns-gunners go down in 3
• everthing else goes down in two.

[little zinc]

with the Eviscerator, you can literally hold Block+ Left Click spam and does nonstop sweeping attacks if you have the cleave perk that gives toughness on cleave

[signal cipher]

Sounds like they just don't lend themselves to your play style

[slate pawn]

Guys do i go for Toughness or Health on my Curios for the Zealot?

[little zinc]

im going health

[slate pawn]

Yeah thats what im running now but i wanted to be sure

[little zinc]

i have about 330hp right now. feels good tbh, my Toughness doesnt really go low unless i get fk'd rom behind

[eager zenith]

whats this guys ? Is it in the game ? No scripts or grimoars, but relics ?

[outer bloom]

honestly I have a bolter for specials

[feral gust]

.. yeah that works too

[little zinc]

if you get a lacerate knife, this is what i run. nonstop crits

[tired crown]

Not seen that before, maybe it's a new thing?

[little zinc]

75% toughness dmg reduction up 100%

[tired crown]

I've read about this build, how do you like it? Is it as strong as people have suggested?

[little zinc]

its broken tbh. so insane

youu get chastise up in a matter of seconds with all the crits from hitting targets with bleed

[tired crown]

And body shots too, not even head shots.

[little zinc]

yup!

the bleed on monsters/bosses are nice too

[hollow slate]

yea that must work wonders keeping your toughness constantly buffed

[tired crown]

I'm glad you zealots got something to work with, I know a lot of people have complained about it being an underperforming class.

[little zinc]

it does tbh. you dont take barely any dmg.

[granite panther]

Any reason I can't consecrate craft my blue hammer?

[hollow slate]

i dont really like playing with dagger though. I prefer eviscerator for crowd CC as thats the zealots primary responsibility

[little zinc]

hammers are bugged rn

no one can

[spiral basalt]

Nws son

[granite panther]

Aww

[tired crown]

@little zinc going to start pinging you here when people ask zealot questions ^ ^

[open cargo]

Can you equip this on your character somehow? 😛

[little zinc]

hell yeah. i dont mind helping out. ive tested all the damn weapons haha

[placid hornet]

Yooo which one is better pretty please help?

[little zinc]

i dont think so. i have a few unlocked

[open cargo]

Ah. I see

[tired crown]

Equip it to your weapons, hit C (or V?) and select the charm tab, top left

[little zinc]

first one imo. the mobility is nice

[tired crown]

They dangle from your weapons, showcasing even further your devotion to The God Emperor.

[open cargo]

Oooh, noice. Thanks!

[placid hornet]

Thanks! Had like 20 seconds left for the new batch of items and couldn't decide xd

Worth upgrading now through the Hadron?

Or wait for something with more power?

Cause statlines are truly good

[little zinc]

dont upgrade blues til they are 400+

[placid hornet]

Okay, makes sense

[little zinc]

otherwise you lose out of tons of mats

[placid hornet]

Thanks again

[little zinc]

np enjoy!

[jovial lake]

Anyone got tips for the Cliffhanger Penance? Been trying the smelter complex mission on malice with endless horde but can't seem to get enough

[sleek light]

I can't decide, is this a Boltor worth upgrading?

[pallid basin]

If Im reading these correctly these synergies really well right?

[little zinc]

absolutely. one of the best weapons out there right now.

[sleek light]

Yeah but I mean with these rolls on it

[little zinc]

go to Chasm Logistratum. first area, off to the left is a break in the bridge. gather as many as you can and try to push them off

[little zinc]

i'd say so. bolters are your best friend in heresey and Damnation. Also a faster reload speed never hurts

they already take ages to reload

[signal flare]

Can the Thunder Hammer not be upgraded? Just gives me an error saying "Unable to perform operation"..?

[little zinc]

sick!

[jovial lake]

I'll give it a go!

[feral gust]

Has anyone deliberately done a 'lights-out' mission without a Lasgun/Autogun?

[burnt pendant]

On a burst fire weapon, that looks like a legitimately superfluous blessing.

[little zinc]

my thoughts exactly.

[verbal vine]

Reload speed on boltgun is nice

Not a perfect weapon but still nice

[little zinc]

eventually we will be able to reroll traits and such

and blessings

worth keeping imo

[sleek light]

Just going to be difficult to replace my Recon Lasgun with Infernus on it

[burnt pendant]

Sure, but be already had all that (see above). The only thing he got for the upgrade was the second blessing, and the blessing he got was effectively 3% crit chance on the second shot when hip firing. The weapon's great, but the upgrade was bad luck.

[sleek light]

Absolutely melts bosses

[sleek light]

Yeah, the second crit roll was unlucky

They kind of work against each other

[burnt pendant]

Well, I suppose it's better than sustained fire on a staff, or crucian roulette on a rifle. 🤷‍♂️ Oh, right, the two blessings also exclude each other. Double unlucky. Well, it's a great base weapon. You'll live. 😉

[rigid wasp]

The first one but you're going to be replacing a 303 rating pretty quick

[sleek light]

what do people here consider a good roll on melee weapons?

[burnt pendant]

I believe that depends very much on the weapon?

[sleek light]

perhaps, but I notice some seem to always prefer power on their weapons and such

[keen cedar]

does attack speed affect charge attacks?

[eternal apex]

6 people xd

[timid tundra]

YOOOOOOO 8 player sessions when?

[rigid wasp]

it would be cool to have like, a for fun obviously unbalanced mode with more than 4 players, no penances or xp from it or anything

[stuck ridge]

lmao

[strong bridge]

anyone know how many more years we must wait for the hourglass mission to be a t5? 😢

[stuck ridge]

Also my favorite Melee weapon for Psyker might just very well be the Dueling Sabre

It's so fast, it deals good headshot damage with a decent swipe attack on chain, and it blocks really well

Plus it's super funny to just flex on a Scab by dodging around and doing the Thrust Special into his head a bunch

"Boop, got your nose!"

"Boop, did it again!"

[grave burrow]

i feel that dueling sabre has to be parry special attack tho

not that katachan metal scrap

[strong bridge]

Does anyone have a link to a list of what weps can get what traits/blessings? Thanks

[agile musk]

hey guys how does charmed reload work? I assumed it was just headshots but is itonly on special spots like nurgle beasts back or does it not work/have a different proc?

[eternal apex]

ots a big idk how to make it happen again

[glad radish]

Honest Question, but am i just using the Heavy Eviscerator wrong or is it just worse than the Chainsword and Axe in almost every manner?

Because for me it doesn't really deal more damage, it's just slower with a bit more range and a worse combo...

[grave burrow]

you are using it wrong

[rapid ermine]

Deffo using it wrong

[grave burrow]

your evis has to be 400 lvl gold, tho

use heavy attack, and push attacks more

stop spamming lmb

[rapid ermine]

regular chainsword feels like a dagger after using evis for a while

[hollow slate]

absolutely love the eviscerator for huge cleaves into hordes

[rapid ermine]

charged attacks and push attacks are so good with it

[grave burrow]

Psychic swords with proper blessing can Deflect Bullets

[rapid ermine]

Also the fact that you can 1hit specials with it on lower difficulties feels so good

"oh a mauler? Lemme just charge in to rev attack and its gone"

[turbid valve]

What are The best perks for kantrael XII?

[humble helm]

any tips for using the Lucius pattern lasgun? I feel like I suck with it or dont do much damage. Should I always fully charge?

[burnt pendant]

Very hard to get that blessing, however. Or rather, random.

[lapis raven]

yeah and if you get the perk that makes force sword with deflector use peril instead of stamina it gets really good at it

[minor bison]

Its supposed to be a kinda sniper dmr lasgun

Aim for heads or body shots of elites/specials and delete them

Its an exotic flavor of lasgun that requires a bit of skill to not be a burden

[stuck ridge]

I want one

[cold estuary]

Has anyone tested the interaction between the 10% brain burst level 25 psyker feat and the force lightning staff?

[rocky sierra]

uhhh how does he have this?

[nocturne thicket]

He shot real good

[rocky sierra]

Not the chestpiece

the mask

[cursive citrus]

Easily?

It's a penance

[stuck ridge]

The On Target mission is actually a chain, unlocking different helmets each time

[cursive citrus]

After you get the first helmet the second penance shows up

And same for the second and third

[rocky sierra]

Ah

[stuck ridge]

Is the Inner Tranquility Feat not working? I am not noticing anything that really feels like 6-24% Perils Resistance

[proper coral]

Is anyone else having issues with Counterfire for not working reliably?

[abstract maple]

yup it's busted

[smoky rampart]

can a spyker pm me for 3-4 noob questions, google havent givent me a late november update answer on plz?:D

[lone vigil]

Has it been explained how the gear score of available shop items is calculated? Is it your current score + n? Item score (primary, secondary) + n? Does it just go off of a range for each current level?

[proper coral]

Sustained fire, here we go

[raw arrow]

ive became a saber psyker recently myself. the force sword's slow. plus half the time when i used its special, a mob ran in the way. the few chances i cleave down some armored guys in a row with the force sword, im able to dance and handle mobs like a barber and a haircut with the saber instead, and im still killing most of the elites the same. mostly.

[dawn leaf]

hey how do you do this penance https://gyazo.com/bf9b4a3a9f7ea2064b2ade9a7597fdc4

[stuck ridge]

Sure send 'em

[smoky rampart]

@stuck ridge thx omw

[cursive torrent]

are damnation missions always endless horde?

[azure cove]

bruh I unplugged my wireless adapter and never lost my internet during extraction phase.

[cursive torrent]

id like to try one that wont kill me for looking at it wrong

[azure cove]

Like my computer was like "no cheese for you"

[leaden venture]

Anyone have any gearing tips for sharpshooter? things I should try to get?

[keen cedar]

bolter power sword

[cursive torrent]

theres a few places that its doable. you have to herd a horde into the right places. i suggest looking it up on youtube.

[final depot]

Where do dregs show up the most again?

[cursive torrent]

are you level 30 yet?

[leaden venture]

22

[cursive torrent]

most people like Bolters, Recon Lasguns, or the MGXII lasgun

[dawn leaf]

okay i go see

[cursive torrent]

and power sword. ive seen some people use the chainsword too, but thats not my preference

[leaden venture]

havent seen much on the guns too use but did see people talking on the power sword

[cursive torrent]

yeah at level 22 im not even completely sure you can get bolters or power swords yet. i didnt see any myself until about 25.

[dreamy steeple]

Really worried Fatshark is more into nerfing popular weapons than they will be buffing the underpowered ones. It's a common dev issue.

[azure cove]

I got a power sword at like 20, they're definetly there

[pure marsh]

Dont the recon lasguns depend on your rolls though to be viable in higher difficulties tho

[cursive torrent]

yeah

[errant lake]

got it on the first sword I upgraded kek

[pure marsh]

Yeah ive been running a bolter while ive been waiting for a decenft one

[vale prawn]

any experienced psykers got some tips for me on how to complete the "Going out with a bang" penance? I feel like smashing my head against a brickwall. I could swear that i have killed 3 elites with the explosion several times by now

[signal cipher]

As if it almost always being endless horde wasn't bad enough it has wormed it's way into matches that are listed of having no condition.

Hersey and Hersey endless horde are wildly different

[pure marsh]

I need to hit 20 so i can get a thunder hammer tho too

[dreamy skiff]

So how are soulblaze builds on the whole? Worth the investment?

[lone vigil]

I can't get this bouncing grenade penance for the life of me

[sick briar]

Is anyone willing to group up to help me get Malleus Monstonum penance?

[cursive torrent]

gonna be honest im not sure there is a trick to that one lol. i dont really complain about the penances much but if there is one that needs a rework its that one.

all the other ones at least incentivize you to play in a somewhat positive, skillful way.

[random sparrow]

Do the ammunition reloading mission, at the end stand next to the box where you were loading the ammo and toss grenades at the pad where you hopped down from after coming through the door to the loading area.

[pure marsh]

I got ot in that one assanation whith the church in it you can attract a horde before you drop down and get it easy by underhand toeesung it up and letting it fall down while they try to climb

[lone vigil]

those are both enormous brain

[lone vigil]

the room with the medicae and the dog always spawning?

[dreamy skiff]

I should start actually going for my own penances. But that requires the courage to step into malice difficulty and higher

Which unless if I have my friend, ain’t gonna happen

[lethal dawn]

how to farm dregs

ive been at 0 for like 4 missions

[random sparrow]

Yep, where you are looking out the windows before you pull the lever and have to run get the ammo

[pure marsh]

Tbh its not that bad once you learn how to manage hordes

[cursive torrent]

finesse is attack speed, yeah?

[patent sapphire]

got a grey 358

[pure marsh]

I think its crit chance

[cursive torrent]

ah, then dump stat for some weapons. good to know

[lethal dawn]

how to farm dregs
ive been at 0 for like 4 missions

[onyx shuttle]

which one?

[verbal vine]

Arent dregs super common?

[outer bloom]

just get the higher power one

you aint keeping it long

[jagged scaffold]

good or nah? on zealot

[verbal vine]

If you arent making progress, your contract might be bugged

[onyx shuttle]

tru ig

[earnest pivot]

kinda easy

[winter obsidian]

Lol

[pure marsh]

What qualifies as a critucal hit and how can you get more crit chance

Mainly messing with bleed on preacher

[cursive torrent]

you are low level. both of those are dog and you wont keep them. also they are almost the same, so dont spend money and just keep the one you have.

[burnt pendant]

Is it just me, or is "up to +3% power, scaling with peril" a rather abysmal blessing?

[stuck ridge]

Oh hey just ping me in them here haha, my Discord DM setup is strange

[stuck ridge]

Hmm, Power is a Good Stat, but also it does seem kidna bad

*kinda

Now, uh, the Executor Perk says, "+2% on Repeated Weak Spot Hit"

+2% what?

[elder rapids]

when are they gonna fix the trapper shot sound?

[patent sapphire]

what is a flash mission?

[cursive torrent]

nobody knows yet

[patent sapphire]

i see, thanks

[green totem]

what lvl 5 talent is best for veteran?

[stuck ridge]

Level 5? That's the first Feats, right?

[green totem]

yes

[tired crown]

I like toughness on elite kill, since you aim for them a lot anyway.

Plus it's 50% and when you get stuck in against a bunch of maulers/ragers and slash them to bits, you get toughness back

[bleak vessel]

This hood is the third unlock for kinetic killer, right? Cause if so Physical pain

[stuck ridge]

I... actually like it

[tired crown]

Yeah that looks great imo

[stuck ridge]

I think it looks cool hehe

[bleak vessel]

Its sooooo cooooool, right? I so badly want it

Its the same with the masked veteran helm

[stuck ridge]

Toughness on Elite Kill is generally my go to

[tired crown]

The long range 5%/sec is also nice if you're not much of a melee person, sitting back and sniping enemy shooters will make you a favorite of every team ever.

[tired crown]

I've got the cloth mask veteran helm, almost the rebreather one. I need it!

[bleak vessel]

Your doing the heresy penances?

I wish you luck!

[past shale]

when do i unlock the bolter as zealot?

[tired crown]

Thank you! The Emperor may yet smile upon me.

[full shell]

Does anyone knows what are the 7 missions for Vantage Point?

[bleak vessel]

I thinkkkkkk level 15-17?

[full shell]

Good luck brother, may the emperor protects you

[patent sapphire]

raid, assassination, investigation, disruption, strike, espionage, and repair

[tired crown]

You're a champ

[patent sapphire]

you can find the list in the penance menu under missions

[tired crown]

Yeah but you actually did it, most don't ^ ^

[burnt pendant]

The one I currently have shows +13% for 2 seconds on kill.
Thats just a so much higher number...

[gilded flare]

Either of these good? with those perks

[tired crown]

The helbore seems pretty good if you like that one, would be a fast shooting heavy hitter

[rigid wasp]

what does the sword and ripper gun camo skins look like?

I got the drops, but dont have the game yet, so I cant really see for myself

[slate quiver]

Cliffhanger on psyker is such a pain

[onyx schooner]

how are people getting the hats? is there new missions giving us the hat penance?

[stuck ridge]

The Class-Specific Penances give Hats

On Target for Veteran

[rigid wasp]

I think hats are the last ones you get

reward for finishing the other major ones for your class

[stuck ridge]

But yeah they usually entail completing other missions

[rigid wasp]

yeah thats what I mean

for me its finish 25 missions as one penance

which works towards my cool hat penance

[stuck ridge]

Hat penance :)

[silver ridge]

Has anyone bought a hat from the cosmetic shop, does it apply to all the tiers of the hat or just the base one?

[rigid wasp]

havent seen a hat yet

just gun hand armor in different colors and some pants

[hollow slate]

Any reason the purgation flamer is marked as sold when i never bought it?

[silver ridge]

you have to unlock the hat to see the cosmetics @rigid wasp

[hollow slate]

i purchased an eviscerator yesterday in the top slot but since then anything there has been marked as sold

[visual jacinth]

Sometimes it rerolls and if you bought a weapon in that slot it'll just label it over the new weaponm

[silver ridge]

im just not sure if the hat applies to 2nd tier and up also or just the 1st one

[rigid wasp]

oh wow

[hollow slate]

oh ok its just a known bug, gotcha

[rigid wasp]

need my goggles helm drip

[strange spear]

Do the veteran lvl 30 talents only gran their special bonus against the new highlighted enemy categories or all types of enemy?

[stuck ridge]

Mutant Spam is really rough to deal with at middle levels without an Ogryn