gameplay-help

[kindred prism]

no, it requires all players to be in coherence with ogryn

[polar sandal]

once a day. the exact time seems to be a little variable right now—was 11am EST for a bit, but it's been at different times the last few days I think

[soft wing]

not sure if I should go warp battery or kinetic flayer 🤔

[stoic heath]

so is there any hope of this game not being horribly buggy at some point? my experiance ahs been alright but ive heard a good number of people describe it as unplayable

[warm snow]

it's far from unplayable

I have had a few crashes one day

and some disconnects

but otherwise my performance was good and only bugs I found were funny ones

[stoic heath]

yeah but it seems like a ton of talents and penaces are bugged

[warm snow]

and slightly annoying such as grimoires stuck in the environment

[unreal oar]

I like how the description doesn't tel you that shooting cost extra stam aswell.

I hate the lack and the misinformation in this game 🥲

[warm snow]

so just use diff feats till they fix em

sadly not much you can do there

[stoic heath]

but im worried they will never be fixed

[warm snow]

why wouldn't they lol

they are very much aware

[stoic heath]

cuz of corperate incomptence and greed

[polar sandal]

lol

[slate inlet]

So far the reception of Fatshark has been extremely on point

[azure cove]

Which level 10 feat for vet should I have? The 20% damage for distance or the grenade refresh?

[polar sandal]

no, there's no hope—the game is going to be unplayable buggy forever, I'm sorry. they're going to patch more bugs into it every day. i don't know why they're going to do that, but it's what they're gonna do

[stoic heath]

okay ill refund it then

[polar sandal]

and boom, quickplay just got a little nicer

[azure cove]

don't listen to the naysayers >_>

[warm snow]

also have they mentioned crafting resources being rewarded from stuff other than just finding them around the map?

[random mauve]

Bye

[stoic heath]

?

[vale prawn]

does anyone have tipps for the on Overwatch penance?

[blissful python]

Is there any way to check which missions I've done on Malice or no?

[long plover]

Is holy revenant or faith restores all better for level 20 zealot?

[kindred prism]

lol I love it when the twitch guys constantly crap on Darktide for being buggy then proceeds to suck Overwatch 2 off

[molten osprey]

anyone else stuck at 9/10 monstrosities killed on the contracts? When I kill one on a mission I get the contract completed pop-up, but when I go back to the morningstar after it's always back at 9/10 and I don't get the rewards. we're finishing the missions successfully

[warm snow]

happened to me with missions completed

it randomly stopped counting missions

but eventually it fixed itself

[civic spade]

has anyone been able to fix this? I've obviously beaten every mission type on malice or higher but it doesn't count my inquisitorial recruit or vantage point achievements because I earned it during the start of a server outage

[charred galleon]

anyone else having the issue not seing chat?

[glad bramble]

Anybody know if someone is compiling a list of all perks and uh. What's the new Darktide term for Traits?

[polar sandal]

you can look at the thread on the Technical Issues forum—the gist is that we're supposed to complete the penance over again (which hasn't been possible yet because of mission rotations, so not confirmed that it actually works) and they're trying to find a way to fix it on their end, but it's unclear if that's actually possible

[glad bramble]

Vermintide's list was very useful for building a build.

I also wish they gave us a number for what a given roll for a stat was.

[clever hare]

better?

[sour forum]

Any tips for increasing fps without saccrificing too much of visual eye candy? Like what settings use the most of ur cpu/gpu and such and can be turned down or shut off completely?

[burnt pendant]

Anyone know what "Executor" does?

[royal rock]

dose a head count as a weak spot ?

[slate inlet]

Literally even with bots, the coherency penance is stupid hard

because the bots are stupid and randomly walk away

[glad bramble]

If I'm not mistaken, the power level is the combined totals of all rolled values, so a higher power means a greater overall distribution. But if there's a single value that's higher that you prefer, feel free to go for that.

[burnt pendant]

Usually, yes.

[slow fog]

Max ragdolls is probably the best cpu saver

[royal rock]

what is carapace armor ?

[burnt pendant]

Heavy armour

As far as I know, it's unarmoured, flak armour, carapace armour.

[shrewd pendant]

Is it actually possible for the damage bar to be filled all the way to the end?

[burnt pendant]

Maulers (with the chain axes) have carapace armour on chest and head.

[river ibex]

What is a Flash Mission? I have yet to find an answer but I have seen people mention it and ask the same question

[glad bramble]

Carapace armor is heavier armor, I think that's what Crushers and the hotshot volley gun scav gunners have. You can see in the Meat Grinder in the Psykanium, which is VERY useful.

[kindred prism]

big metal armor that the maulers and crushers wear

[sharp skiff]

Here this'll answer everything https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z50j5p/base_rating_what_is_it_where_is_it_and_why_does/ Again you go for a 350 GREY then you upgrade it to orange thats how you get real god rolls.

[glad bramble]

Theoretically, but practically I doubt it. Unless there's a rarity higher than golden. In Vermintide 2, Veteran (red) items were top-tier and automatically had max power, and property (perk) values, but Darktide goldens don't seem to do that.

[mellow sage]

is it just me or is Uprising not worth it compared to sedition difficulty ? its a increase of just 100exp ?

[charred galleon]

hit or miss?

the experience is sort of meh..

[cunning rivet]

which is better?

high pen or high first target

[molten osprey]

god i hate this shit so much lmao

not you or your weapons

the whole weapon stats system

[cunning rivet]

its shit

[stoic heath]

yeah the fact that we dont get raw numbers is awful

[molten osprey]

i have no idea which is better why does it has to be so hard

[cunning rivet]

never had to do this in rat game

[stoic heath]

or good explienations of things'

[charred galleon]

because you dont have the base stats of the weapons to begin with

which makes it hard to decide

[molten osprey]

there's not even any explanation in game for what stuff like "finesse" means

[charred galleon]

and those bars dont help a lot to begin with

[cunning rivet]

im gonna skip out on it

i feel like pen in more valuable i guess

i also dont have enough 🤣

just realized

[clear lynx]

how good are these traits on a devils claw

[charred galleon]

are those single target perks on a cleave weapon?

ah nvm

is trauma only on one enemy? or does it count for the entire swing

[royal rock]

miss

[charred galleon]

yea i assumed so

i just saw yellwo and wend WOAA

[clear lynx]

im not entirely sure, thats why i asked before i spend my tokens

[charred galleon]

the wording is weird on it

[wintry harness]

which stats should I look for as a veteran with curios?

[slow fog]

Bah I dont know what mission type im missing on my zealot

[rain dew]

what's everyone running for zealot

perk wise

[molten osprey]

there's currently no way to play a mission alone with 3 bots right

[crystal barn]

so, besides the rating system do we just have Mk versions that are the same thing but better

[clear lynx]

the last mission type hasnt been released

[slow fog]

It has

Disruption is in the rotation

[tepid pumice]

Do you need to have the weapon out to benefit from the bonuses?

[clear lynx]

nvm then

[slow fog]

I have the penance helmet on my psyker, not sure which type im missing on my zealot

[clear lynx]

only if the perk/bonus says you have to have it out, otherwise its alwayas active

[tepid pumice]

So if I had: "Immune to ranged attack for 0.5 seconds on close range kill" on a gun, it'd work with my melee?

[clear lynx]

the traits only count for that specific weapon

so only on gun

[tepid pumice]

kk, thanks

[spiral vault]

did darktide tweet about power outage earlier or am i going insane i swear there was a tweet or something

the special mission effect i mean

[tough cove]

That?

[spiral vault]

yes

[tough cove]

Global condition updates in 1 hour and 5 minutes

so it probably happens even earlier than the showcased time

Sorry I can't count

1 hour 45 is correct

lol

[weary sequoia]

hello, I have a question regarding the "making every shot count" penance for veteran, if you hit a bulwark's shield, does it still count as a hit?

and what about allies?

[hollow flame]

I have a question about rating increases for weapons

Is the droppable range determined by weapon slot?

For example, would having a higher rating melee weapon increase the likelihood of a higher rating ranged weapon?

[sharp skiff]

Use revolver, melee the whole match, magdump into assassination boss' shield and don't kill any elites at the end then profit.

[hollow flame]

Is it from the average?

[somber pewter]

is abhor the mutant broken?

[weary sequoia]

thanks for the tip, I"m playing as a zealot myself but I'm sure it'll come in handy for my friend

still curious about the ogryn shield thing thou

[feral sentinel]

nope it works you have to charge him with your ability while he charges and kill him

[odd light]

So anyone know how to fix the game after they're update its just constantly crashing.

[hollow flame]

Lower your worker threads

I haven't had a crash in days, and I've been playing lots

[somber pewter]

instead of doing that just shoot normally dc with some ammo left near the end and come back and dont miss easy peasy

[odd light]

I have and it still crashes

[hollow flame]

verify files, update drivers

[odd light]

Thats been done as well

[subtle urchin]

this any good? idk what max power level is

[odd light]

I even uninstalled steam so it deleted all of my games and reinstalled Darktide and still nothing

[hollow flame]

Reinstall windows

[subtle urchin]

is the bleed useful and do things like reapers count as unarmored?

[hollow flame]

I'm having no crashes.

[rigid wasp]

Cool disruption is back

All we're missing now is for them to bring back the 7th mode

and the rest of us can get our veteran helmets

[slate inlet]

reapers and bulwarks are unyielding armor class where unarmored

[hollow flame]

Use DDU in safe mode, to uninstall grapihcs

[subtle urchin]

thanks, still not sure if the evisc is worth getting

[odd light]

Did that as well

[subtle urchin]

too low power level?

[odd light]

Everysingle game works Execpt darktide

[hollow flame]

Run the game on low

That'll use less tech

[slate inlet]

you should be able to do all types right now

[rigid wasp]

I haven't seen espionage all week

[odd light]

Already tested that lol and my computer can handle games on high np last night Darktide was running like nothing was wrong then today its having issues

[rigid wasp]

So unless they re-added it today and it hasn't shown up for me

[winter hare]

how can i get the heavyweight champion penance for ogie relatively easy

[rigid wasp]

Espionage is the mode I'm missing

[slate inlet]

oh no you right, hab dreyko is disabled

[slate inlet]

Go into a level 5 mission with endless hordes and hope you immediately run into ogryns

also have the level 30 feat to run through them

[hollow flame]

What graphics card do you use

[winter hare]

alright, noted

how should i go about getting friends will be friends penance?

[warm charm]

whats agood way to get the 50 kills from stun grenades penance? rarely feels that there is that many in a horde all grouped up

[slate inlet]

you gonna need friends lol, Im working on it right now

add me and we can do it together

[warm charm]

I'm friend shaped, but also only like lv 12

[stable whale]

Have anyone done "make every shot count" Veteran penaces (Solo) as in with random group or do i really need find friends?

[odd light]

No idea haven't checked

[slate inlet]

Any ogryn friends wanting to get shiny armors, add me on steam (Garfieldgaming.tv)

[odd light]

I think nivida no idea lol

[hollow flame]

If you don't know what graphics card you have, how did you even install drivers. This seems suspicious.

[royal rock]

the game will be down ?

[clear lynx]

if you have nvidia card just get the geforce experience app

[hoary oyster]

What's the best way to get in to a solo run at the moment?

[odd light]

I got that and I use it lol

[fluid dust]

anyone know if "unable to perform operation" with the crafting is a bug rn?

[slow fog]

Thunder hammer? yes

[fluid dust]

getting that error no matter what atm, wanna upgrade thunder hammer

[pastel fern]

How all this traits works ?

1. Hammerblow
   +15-20% Impact for 1.5 seconds on Hit. Stacks 5 times.
   (What is "Impact"?)
2. Slaughterer
   +13-15% Power for 3.5 seconds on kill. Stacks 5 times.
   (What is "Power"?)
3. Thrust
   Up to +5% scaling with Charge Time (Heavy Attack). Stacks 5 times.
   (What is "scaling"?)
4. Skullcrusher
   Target receives 5 Stacks of 100% Damage on Stagger. Lasts 3s.

[fluid dust]

ahhh lol

[cobalt garnet]

No its the next modifier, levels will be much darker basically.

[clear lynx]

should i be getting hp or toughness as a zealot (didnt mean to reply)

[hollow flame]

I think toughness

[high cairn]

Should I grab this or no

I wanna try doing the crit bleed build on Zealot but I don't know if this is viable for it

[abstract jolt]

Why I can't play solo

Without ppl

[little zinc]

just cant

[keen veldt]

server based/sided

[grave briar]

Stupid question, I was awarded the twitch drop skins for last week and this week, but they're not in game

Do they get added at full release?

[dusk hemlock]

how to keep 1 wound in it just a flesh woud guy

[spice sigil]

This penance hurts i missed 1 shot!

[keen veldt]

anyone can quick-play join or join you if say you have steam "on" not "invisible"

[clear lynx]

feel like this is off to a good start

[hollow flame]

Okay, I've tried asking a few times now, without response.

I know the rating of drops is dependent on the rating of items you already have

But... is that per slot, is it averaged, or is it the highest overall?

[idle kite]

whats this?

[heady plover]

Yes, all things cosmetic that was previously mentioned, e.g. deluxe is all after release FS stated.

[mellow sage]

so is uprising just a meagre 100 exp more than sedition ? whats the point then :E

[tough cove]

@idle kite it's event

right now all missions have nothing or endless

after global event change

it will be low light event

[pure gull]

Should I get a thunder hammer or stay with heavy eviscerator?

[clear lynx]

there was a reduce vision event early at some point, was super annoying

[little zinc]

hell yeah

[dry wind]

Heavy eviscerator

[little zinc]

remind me of the game GTFO

[tough cove]

That was vent exhaust or soemthing, fog mission

[rigid wasp]

Probably server maintenance time?

6pm est starting

[high cairn]

Isn't that the black out modifier

Like it's dark af

I remember in the closed beta that was a modifier right?

[rigid wasp]

Wait so it's only from 23;00 to 3 am ?

I can't play tonight

No

[heady plover]

If VT and VT2 has taught me anything about how looot works (keep in mind I'm still not sure about Dark Tide) but I think it's on average. So for instance if you had stuff around 40-50's, you'd get on average items around 41-56 because your gear is around that, until you got something above that.

[rigid wasp]

2300 = 6pm

300 = 10pm

[grave ocean]

How tf do I tell which mission type I haven't done

[rigid wasp]

It's a 4hr maintenance time probably bug fixes? Maybe re-adding the mission game mode Espionage stuff like that

[rigid wasp]

You are most likely missing Espionage as it isn't in the game yet got pulled out for bugs

[grave ocean]

Bruu

No helmet for me why live

[rigid wasp]

I would not be surprised

To see the mode put back in tonight if it's fixed

In this 4hr maintenance window

[dry wind]

Use a pen and paper 🫡

[high cairn]

I take Rising

[whole nebula]

I fucking did it, make every shot count, I fucking did it omfg I'm so happy omfg

Legit can't stop smiling my god

[grave ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer40k-vraks-siege-of-vraks-death-korps-gif-20931228

[heavy shuttle]

They are reseting progress tonight during downtime, dude

[grave ocean]

good job guardsman

[heavy shuttle]

kidding

[whole nebula]

already seen the tweet you evil bastard lmao

[heavy shuttle]

XD

[frosty thistle]

May you share how lol. And gj.

[heavy shuttle]

good job man

[rapid ermine]

Admit it, your heart skipped a beat or two

[grave ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-maclean-doug-maclean-its-a-clown-look-its-a-clown-gif-26139672

[runic void]

okay, so. Is psyker's signature force sword super meh, or what. What's a fun melee for him

[high cairn]

Aight last call, take or no? My shop resets in 4 min

It's like 2300 Tokens

[dry wind]

Force sword is fun if you use it properly

[little zinc]

no save

[runic void]

I don't like it's moveset, that is all

[little zinc]

axe is trash compared to knife, Evis, Power Sword etc

[rapid ermine]

Aint psykers job to just insta gib specials before they get to do anything until at the higher difficulties psyker is just a useless sharpshooter? 😄

[dry wind]

Lame

[frozen bloom]

not as fun as rapier dancing around

[dry wind]

Power sword is literally the best Vet melee

[dry wind]

I'll give you that one, you got me there

[high cairn]

Power Sword isn't an option on Zealot tho, trying to do the crit build and Axes come with Crit Bonus as a roll

[runic void]

I don't know. Game hasn't been out long enough for me to get to what would be cata difficulty in vt2, I'm not about that meta yet

[high cairn]

I just don't know how much base crit and how much crit bonus works on Axe

[whole nebula]

okay, heed my words of wisdom, shotgun, its your second best friend, your first? a 484 power sword, learn to melee better than any zealot, let everyone know what you're doing, make sure you ain't letting the team down without your gun, it is doable, and I can confirm I did it with randos, make sure you're level 30, thats about it I think.

[half isle]

https://tenor.com/view/proud-of-you-gif-24968958

[crimson fable]

So, the armour is nice?

[dusk hedge]

Is the drivers out yet for the game on nvidia

[whole nebula]

it's aight

more just excited to actually play the game now

[dry wind]

Isnt it just the "on overwatch" armor but black and with a different necklace

[crimson fable]

Ah, the true words that show that such penance is badly designed

[high cairn]

You get the bullets on your shoulder too right?

[frosty thistle]

wait so shotgun pellets don't count as a miss as long as you hit one thing?

[raw mango]

do I need to do something extra cause i'm level 20 zealot and i haven't unlocked neither the bolt or the evis

[dry wind]

Considering how Vet gets ammo randomly, its a badly designed penance tbh

[grave ocean]

i dont get the "and run out of ammo" part

just require a 100% hit rate

[dry wind]

Yeah the "run out of ammo" part is pretty team griefy

Remove it FS pls ty

[bright relic]

Oh yeah. How do you work around that?

[grave ocean]

wait does it count if you shoot your teammates lmao

[dry wind]

Carefully

[grave ocean]

i shoulda been an ogryn this veteran shit is painful

[burnt pendant]

Ok, so, weapon blessings(traits):
"Executor: +2% on repeated Weak Spot Hit" +2% of what?"
"Warp Nexus: +Critical Chance based on current Peril. Up to +3% Critical Chance. Stacks up to 5 times." So how does one get stacks, and is the limit per stack or total?
"Decimator: +10% Power on Hit. Stacks 5 times" How long?

[robust pebble]

A lot of the penances are actual cancer to teamwork, as they promote selfish behaviour or constrained tactics to accommodate them.

[dry wind]

I think just making sure at the very end to not miss with your random extra 2 or 3 bullets on the final horde

[grave ocean]

psyker 1v1 a team boss

?

[robust pebble]

Yup

[crimson fable]

Not randomly, it is when an elite get killed and you are either the one killing or in cohesion with the guy killing it... So, use all ammo hitting stuff, then remain out of cohesion when killing elites... Better yet, kill yourself and then don't get ever rescued... That might work too lololololol

[dry wind]

Worst penance in the entire game

[frozen bloom]

yes, yes, some time

[grave ocean]

ive seen lots of people complain about long bomb

[robust pebble]

Or the guardsman being entirely out of ammo for a map, which is entirely gimping his whole purpose

[shy dagger]

I'm hearing that one can be invited to join an in-game Strike Team via Discord somehow. Is this a thing?

[grave ocean]

which is weird because i got long bomb like second mission by accident

[dry wind]

Long bomb is doable in that one assasination mission with the square staircase going down, with a medicae at the top

[high cairn]

Class?

[dry wind]

Underhand throw the grenade at the highest part, aiming for the lowest

[burnt pendant]

Also, how do rending stacks differ from brittle stacks? I guess the former are on me or smth?

[grave ocean]

you know the mission with the crappy bridge holdout

i just waiting for the horde to spawn and chucked

bam, got it

[high cairn]

Honestly, neither

[dry wind]

Didnt do it that way

[frozen bloom]

just aim at horizon so your view is level with the bottom, aim 1.5 charactrer sizes above, quick throw, done

[dry wind]

I used the square staircase

[raw mango]

do I need to do something special to get the evis and bolt cause im level 20 and i can't see either of them in shop

[dry wind]

Higher level

[high cairn]

Kinda like that I think, so it only increases the amount of damage you do to armor where as Brittleness will let allies smack them harder too

[robust pebble]

For long bomb, practice in the meat grinder to get the angle and timing down.

[raw mango]

i thought it was 18 for evis

[robust pebble]

Do not hold the button for the arc, quick toss it.

[signal flare]

im convinced knocking 20 enemies off at once is impossible. Done all my Heresy challenges and I literally cannot do this basic one.

[high cairn]

Whether they show up in the store is RNG, you're just not lucky

[frozen bloom]

endless horde + tiny bridges that are in multiple missions

[signal flare]

Tried on soooo many choke points and small ledges

[worthy ore]

did they fix so u can do the blowing up urself thingy for psyker on malice?

[signal flare]

Tried having a teammate kite a bunch passed an edge too

[frozen bloom]

just search darktide cliffhanger on YT

[signal flare]

the force push is so weak

[worthy ore]

do it with force sword instead

[signal flare]

I tried using the force sword to follow up

no dice

[robust pebble]

Perseverance is key. That’s how I got flesh wound on zealot via damnation cheese

[worthy ore]

you know on that one map with the bridge, and u ujump down, go into the wood thingy to the right and do it

[high cairn]

I mean, people have done it so

It's not impossible XD

[robust pebble]

Same for the ogryn penance requiring you to bowling ball 4 ogryns

Some of them just need luck and a stubborn attitude

[signal flare]

Almost all maps have a bridge lol

[robust pebble]

Honestly it might be best to pair up with an ogryn using the slab shield special to become an immovable and invulnerable obstacle during a pox walker horde. That’ll bunch up 20 easy

[signal flare]

Ya I think it basically requires a group effort lol

[simple basalt]

Has anyone figured out a good way to use the Purgatus Force Staff?

[signal flare]

such a dumb penance

The heresy ones were 100% easier

[high cairn]

Hm

Worth taking?

Limbsplitter is eh but Shred, Crit Damage, and decent Crit Bonus

[honest ice]

how many enemies can a boltgun piece through

[high cairn]

It doesn't

But it explodes 😄

[polar gale]

what's the seal icon next to the avatar in the ready screen? what does it mean?

[tough cove]

I honestly have no idea, don't even know why I"m getting them for

You mean the ones like this yes?

I think they're just penance rewards

[high cairn]

Oh insignias, they're just Penance rewards ye

[rigid wasp]

what does infested mean?

[high cairn]

Look at the enemies, which ones do you think look infested

It should be quite obvious

[grave briar]

Thanks, I figured, but was checking

[honest ice]

when I was testing it in the grinder, the boltgun went through one group of normals and hit somebody in the next group

[tough cove]

yea bolter defintely penetrates unarmored

dunno how many though

[clear lynx]

does this replenish your own toughness or only allies toughness

[high cairn]

Does it? I assumed it was the explosion splash

Only allies IIRC

[tough cove]

Also, I'd have to test it again, been a while since I bolted

[stable whale]

Solo with randoms or group? :O

[crisp widget]

What psyker staff do people prefer? I am thinking of lighting or flamer

[whole nebula]

Solo with randoms! Its doable!

[high cairn]

People like Force

[high cairn]

You're a masochist XD

[crisp widget]

rly the aoe circle one?

[tough cove]

I liek the explodey magic rocket one and chain lighting one

[stable whale]

Haha ye i just saw, I had scroll down. That's sick my dude

Gz

[high cairn]

It's good CC. Lightning is cool too. I just know Flame is considered really weak

[crisp widget]

Is lighting good against hordes?

[upper radish]

chain lightning is most useful later on. stun stick

[tough cove]

That bad part about is that it has limited targets

while aoe one and magic missile one can penetrate so much stuff

[upper radish]

lock down the front line whole everyone else goes whirrrr vroom

[odd light]

Bro I have uninstalled the game and reinstalling it and it's telling me it's taking 3days to validate wtf?

[tough cove]

This is also why I like chain, it's very flexibile

stops enemies dead in their tracks

great from preventing them from hitting your friends

[crisp widget]

HMm arite thanks guys :)

[high cairn]

Crispy

Without the fire

[hollow flame]

So we're just not sure if it's highest per slot, or an average of the weapon's highest

[tough cove]

Crsipy dead ragers, teh best kind of ragers

[stable whale]

U did it with shotgun. Did u all ur pellet or aslong u hit ur target counted u didnt miss?

[hasty spade]

Got a huge upgrade 😮

[azure cove]

What does the "collateral" stat do? Is that like, more friendly fire damage?

[hollow flame]

Hmm... I'm not sure if I should buy stronger melee weapons I don't want, just for rating, if I have a higher rating range weapon...

[warped glen]

so is the plasma gun not worth running

[tough cove]

Depends on your playstyle

[upper radish]

CC is underrrated errybody can hordeclear, even veterans (screams in power sword).

Hard Horde CC is pretty psyker (and club ogryn but who clubs) unique

[royal rock]

dose this count as headshots ?

[tough cove]

any weakspot

headshots are a weakspot

[warped glen]

what would be the best playstyle for the plasma gun

[frigid sluice]

does that apply to monstrosities?

[tough cove]

ogryn and nurgle beast take headshot dmg

nurgle better shootweakspot on back

[tough cove]

lots of melee, very aggresive, dump plasma when you need something gone

that way you conserver/refill ammo, but have gigantic burst

[chrome thunder]

i think i completed all types of mission but its still 6 out of 7

[bold saffron]

@chrome thunder Disruption

Is back

[chrome thunder]

so i need play disruption again?

because i finished it 1 time but reconnected i think

[bold saffron]

Maybe

[modest geode]

trying to get zealot penace the abyss done, any recommendations?

[dire ridge]

what do y'all think is the shortest mission? is it torrent assassination?

[tough cove]

@warped glen for example I don't use sniper nor camo

[rigid wasp]

Meh I prefer mk 4

[spice sigil]

i think so yeah

[sharp fossil]

Does anyone have or know of a list of all blessings that are obtainable on melee / ranged / curios?

[gilded flare]

is there a way to see which type of missions I've never done before? I'm at 5/7 for the vantage point pennace but as far as I kow I've done each type before

[spice sigil]

espionage was the one i didnt do, also the disruption mission is out today so mabye those are the one your missing?

[gilded flare]

So we can't complete it yet?

How do some people have the helmet then on veteran?

[robust pebble]

I'm a guardsman main and lemme tell you, the MG XII is simply in a league of its own in the lasgun category. The Lucuis is such a pain in the ass to use due to weapon sway, flailing enemies, being hit by random pox walkers and having other players impact the target that makes them flinch and throws your aim off, while the las-hose accatran does do a great deal of DPS, it can't do anything against hard armour.

The MG XII penetrates all armour types, does consistent damage and it packs a punch as well. It's like a marksman's rifle, and if your aim is solid you can pick off elites and specials before they ever become a danger to you or your team.

[rigid wasp]

It's not a rotation thing

Espionage was removed because it's bugged

[gilded flare]

ah oke

[robust pebble]

If you try it and use it for a while you'll never use any other lasgun.

[gilded flare]

MG IV gang

[rigid wasp]

Veteran Bolter gang

[stone wing]

I miss all my shots so melee gang

[crimson fable]

Autogun gang

[bold saffron]

Power sword gang

[burnt pendant]

So what's going on when strike teams can't be merged because of version conflicts? I mean, those people played together before.

[gilded flare]

Am I wrong for considering this to be good?

[bold saffron]

thats really good

with that Headsht bonus

how to get the Rare Crafting bit easily?

[serene latch]

farm diff 4?

[spice sigil]

dmg little lower than youd hope but check how it performs

[tough cove]

My favorite mark of the kantrael too

[gilded flare]

Yea dmg could've been higher indeed

[rigid wasp]

espionage didn't seem bugged when I played it, I'm betting that they're rotating it to artificially extend the amount of time it takes for people to max out their progression

[unreal aurora]

Its good, but the rating is real low for a militarum level, itll cap out at 415-430 no?

[rigid wasp]

Nah trust me it was removed because of a bug

disruption was supposedly removed because of a bug

[gilded flare]

caps out at 450

[spice sigil]

I feel the same about these endless endless hordes

[rigid wasp]

they put it back in just when they take others out?

Espionage, Disruption, and Investigation were all removed out of a bug

seems very coincedental

They haven't taken any out

[unreal aurora]

Thats not bad

[rigid wasp]

what was the bug and where was the patch where they removed it for that purpose

The only ones they took out were the bugged ones

[gilded flare]

Does the ''Refine item'' in the crafting stations that's currently locked allow you to refine the rating of the weapon?

[rigid wasp]

We've had the same missions in rotation since the beta started. Assasination - Strike - Raid - Repair. And on day one of the beta we had the other 3 but they got taken out for bugs.

[spice sigil]

Is there a reveal today? heard smth about it in general

[royal rock]

is there a list which enemies are unyealding ?

[royal rock]

what reweal ?

[rigid wasp]

They're adding them back in now and not removing any of the current modes.

So now we have Assasination - Strike - Raid - Repair - Disruption - Investigation

[carmine valve]

If u look in #📢news-bulletin and scroll up a little there is a crafting system post on I think everything

[spice sigil]

what was wrong with espionage do you know?

[rigid wasp]

No clue it was only open for a short time and I didn't get to try it.

[onyx shuttle]

does brain burst damage scale somehow or does it just fall off on higher difficulties?

[green totem]

do we know what the max level is for items yet?

[green totem]

it does not currently

[dire ridge]

which one was espionage?

[carmine valve]

The highest I seen was a 510 I think

[pastel kayak]

do we have any information on shared crafting materials and inventory?

[frosty star]

ahhhhh done with all my penances

[bright relic]

The symbol is a guy holding binoculars

[sly axle]

is wrath or savage sweep better? for chainswords/eviscerator?

[frosty star]

does anyone know for zealot healing penance does corruption interfere with that or no?

[chrome thunder]

ty it worked

[dire ridge]

what did u have to do on those missions i cant recall lol

[bright relic]

No idea. Haven't done one yet

[rose raptor]

completely new i downloaded and started yesterday any tips?

[tough cove]

Anyone else sometimes see this artifecting?

[wintry harness]

ye, its something with the light effect

[bright relic]

Drop Medpacks when you can if you and/or your team are low on health. Don't wait for a Medacate Station

[ocean flower]

I believe that’s the one where you auspex scan dead guys, then upload false data on a thing (hold a position, occasional interrupt for minigame), then enter the central spire thing and do it again

[bold saffron]

I hate Trappers I hate Trappers I hate Trappers

[wintry harness]

before picking up ammo, look if your members need it more

[bright relic]

What he said. You can tell cause it'll show a Ammo Icon near the Group Ui

[ocean flower]

Enemies make an evil whooshing sound when they’re about to hit you, and a similar one when they’re about to shoot you. Train yourself to dodge on cue to those sounds and you will get surprise whacked less

[bright relic]

It'll turn from White -> Yellow -> Orange -> Red

[bold saffron]

Trappers are the Litteral worst thing to run into in a Horde

[bright relic]

The whoosing sound seems to only happen if they are behind you.

[tough cove]

IT also happens on weapons where I have the inquisiter insignia on

[bright relic]

Also for grenades, it doesn't show a icon like ammo, so you'll just have to guess

[tough cove]

Also happening with light off 😦

[ocean flower]

Yeah just try to keep vague track of how many ‘nades your allies are tossing

[bright relic]

That, or you can probably ask in Chat

[wintry harness]

turn light quality to low in options, its just busted and known

[shut crown]

Anyone knows what Impact is?

[tough cove]

oh light quality

I tohught the flashlight XD

[ocean flower]

I think Impact is the stagger enemies suffer when you hit em

[terse pond]

when precisely do weeklies reset? it just says one day

[rose raptor]

Can i sell my old item?

[ocean flower]

I think grays and greens are safe to sell

(Discard = sell)

Blues you may want to keep, because you’ll be able to peel off their fancy blessings, upgrade them, and apply em to other weapons

[tiny cipher]

Should I upgrade the rarity of my 394 Power Sword or wait for another one to drop/buy with higher Power Score? 🤔

[ocean hinge]

Any ideas on how to do the On Overwatch penance? im using The Camo feat and its still a challenge

[thin nebula]

anyone else notice the small pack of enemies that will charge in chanting "rise! rise! rise! rise!" together? I love them.

[ocean flower]

I think they might be saying flies? It’s hard to tell lol

[thin nebula]

oh, well. Still love em

[feral gust]

ive seen players block ranged with their axes

[spice sigil]

Are (gunners) every type of ranged enemy or only the heavy gunners with glowing eyes

[chrome thunder]

nvm

[upper jacinth]

I NEEED A squad do zealot challenge we can glitch it n do challenge

[jagged bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rstah95DQ8s

[feral gust]

Does the AI trigger a mob elite horde when one-player dies? (game lvl3+)

[jagged bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/472407264700006420/779416447734382633/image0-1-3.gif

[upper jacinth]

Anyone in?

[azure cove]

Was there a patch just now while I was at dinner or something?

[upper jacinth]

squad whoses in

[cold tiger]

daemonhost BABY

[thin nebula]

spooky

[cold tiger]

i wanna watch the vedio but i also want to experience it for myself dammit

[rigid wasp]

daemonhost

who got daemonhost on the darktide bingo?

[crystal barn]

So, besides the rating system do we just have Mk versions that are the same thing but better

[rigid wasp]

There is supposed to be a power outage from 6pm to 10pm it is now 6pm so idk

[ocean flower]

the mk versions are not the same thing but better

[crystal barn]

Got a bit confused cause they only implemented the proper gear progression recently

[ocean flower]

they're different variations of the same thing

[rigid wasp]

Look at that

[azure cove]

Ah. just wondering how youtubers got access to that stuff

[burnt pendant]

The marks denote similar, but different weapons. F.Ex. different brands of combat knife have different combos. F.ex. one has swipe, overhead, swipe, another has diagonal, swipe, stab.

[upper jacinth]

wheres my squad challenges

[rigid wasp]

I called it at 6pm Espionage would return

[upper jacinth]

pen?

[crystal barn]

Some yes, but for example the Infantry Autogun MkI and VIII I think are like mostly the same

[terse orbit]

they probably have slightly different properties

[crystal barn]

They have the same desc text

[terse orbit]

ogryns have 3 different cleavers for instance

[spice sigil]

This worth all my money? never tried plasma

[rigid wasp]

You veterans can now get your helmet

[crystal barn]

Those are indeed different with their attack patterns and such

[rigid wasp]

all 3 of the bugged game modes are finally back, the last one just got put in at 6pm

[crystal barn]

But the Autogun I mentioned seems like pretty much the same thing with a fancier skin

[terse orbit]

do the autoguns shoot differently?

[spice sigil]

Im yet to see espionage again

[azure cove]

I see Espionage but it's a t4 which I'm afraid of trying

[spice sigil]

oh nice

[terse orbit]

what about their special button?

[crystal barn]

Different versions like the Braced and Headhunter do but I am not sure about this Infantry one

[random wadi]

what is unyealding enemies

[terse orbit]

chungi like reapers and bulwark flesh

[crystal barn]

Even the mag size is mostly the same

[terse orbit]

hmm, possibly the V special button

[burnt pendant]

The autoguns and lasguns differentiate in firerate, recoil, and damage ever so slightly, and have different skins, potentially reticles, and maybe specials (like a bayonet attack). None of them is supposed to be inherently better than another, though of course balance hasn't yet been achieved everywhere.

[terse orbit]

other than that i wouldnt know

[brittle marsh]

How do I go about unlocking this? I know its worth 0 but all my characters seemingly have it but its still greyd out.. Do I just need to make a new char or something?

[clear lynx]

demonghost kinda spooky

[cerulean pelican]

tips for the bolter? hits like a truck, but not sure how to play around the slow reload and innacuracy at a distance

[crimson stag]

Teamwork makes the dream work

[azure cove]

I wish I knew. People swear by it but it's so unwieldy, prefer the long range and accurate stuff. I guess the idea is... get closer.

[terse orbit]

Emperor's been giving me orange curios lately

2/3 so far

[tranquil grove]

Bruh even with new conditions all heresy is still endless horde lol

[crimson stag]

The tip is you don't rely on it as your main weapon. You pull it out and mow down a wave when you see a crusher and 3 maulers advancing menacingly in your general direction

[grand flint]

Anyone been able to do Abhor the Mutant, I've done it like three times now and not gotten credit, is the wording not to be taken literally?

[crystal barn]

Still a flashlight

[cerulean pelican]

so more like an ogryn I guess. Probably works better on certain maps.

[terse orbit]

there's probably some kind of miniscule difference or not

bolter seems like a grenade gauntlet with more rounds in it

probably best used just like it

[slow fog]

Jesus christ

[lone otter]

I'm too lazy to scroll up but does anyone have any good strategies for dealing with Gunners or large packs of gundregs as a Zealot on Difficulty 4 and up?

[slow fog]

I just dodged a hound, it immediately turned 180, jumped onto a door about 3 metres away, 180d off of that and pounced me

[frosty star]

OK so just fought a daemonhost

[azure cove]

Is it a patch or some kind of live hot-update that's just in the game now?

[mortal wasp]

Daemon Hose just squad wiped my team on malice XD

[lone otter]

You need to melee kill the Mutant while in the middle of the Zealot's dash.

[crystal barn]

Nothing except the Mk VII has better stats.

I just find it weird to have both the rating system and straight upgraded versions of the same weapon.

I guess I'd just test it properly next time

[grand flint]

yeah and I've done that three times now, there are videos on youtube saying you have to hold down f to target and release it while continuing to hold down right click, but I can't get it to register

[tough cove]

I find it just doesn't register, I also killed 2 mid dash for sure, 1 I'm pretty sure, but none of them counted

[burnt pendant]

Well, the different marks of lasgun do have different stats. F.Ex. bigger recoil and damage (not to be confused with the bars, those only compare to identical bases). However, higher roman numerals do not, in any way, shape, or form, make any weapon "better". Case in point, the headhunter autoguns. One of them is semiauto, with better accuracy and damage. That's a rather pronounced difference.

[frosty star]

no clue

[lone otter]

My most consistent way has been a charged Thunder Hammer Heavy attack. It can be while the mutant grabbed someone or while it's veering off after a dodge. The holding is to target the Mutie - which is likely a requirement. I don't know about right click since that's just blocking or aiming though.

[crimson stag]

Pretty straight forward

[crystal barn]

Yea that's not my problem, I am aware, stuff like the Braced Autogun or Headhunter have clear differences, the Mk I and VIII Infantry Autogun do not.

Except the bars ofc

[slow fog]

tfw you finally find a group for diff 4 and both of them are below level 20

[lone otter]

Have a wonderful die.

[slow fog]

I just left haha

[next lantern]

SO this witch style demon monster that just kills everbody? is it supposed to come back when you get those captured people back?

or was that bad luck?

[lone otter]

This is terrible news, actually.

[grand flint]

not holding right click sorry, I meant holding for a power attack and not releasing

[crimson stag]

Look at my video, the only important thing is taht you attack before you stop moving

thats literally the only condition

as longa s hit marker shows up before you stop charging you're good

[burnt pendant]

🤷‍♂️ Not much experience with the regular autoguns. Using one is probably already a mistake. But I did notice them having different recoil characteristics. Though balance on some types is whacky, I would believe they haven't found their own yet.

[shrewd python]

Ay new boss

[crimson stag]

What map is that

[shrewd python]

Almost killed him, he escaped

[lone otter]

Yeah. What Fanta said. Try not to move left or right while dashing. Especially don't hit back or you'll stop preemptively. You also can't collide with the Mutie or it won't count as 'while dashing'.

[shrewd python]

This @crimson stag

[crystal barn]

They're fine but you're better off using the other variants tbh, I'll come back with a comparison if I remember

[burnt pendant]

Is 20 the magical level where dif 4 becomes easily doable?

[royal rock]

wtf

[crimson stag]

So it can randomly spawn on any map with pwoer outage condition then?

[lone otter]

Haha.

Depends.

Gearscore 400ish and level 30 to easily "meet" requirements.

[shrewd python]

kinda

[bright relic]

I just got 2 of those in one mission

[deep sapphire]

yeah i got 2 in one as well

but i think you can just walk past them, they sleeping in the dark

[crystal barn]

I noticed the same thing with the Ogryn's Ripper Gun but I have yet to test it, I think the Mk II and VI

[lone otter]

Definitely doable, though. Just more frustrating than need be sometimes.

[crystal barn]

Do they have any big differences?

Oh right, one had a different symbol lol

[burnt pendant]

Huh. Haven't even yet found a mk2.

[minor bison]

Heu

Can we talk about the fuck the daemonhost

[crimson stag]

No amount of gear makes any difficulty "easily doable". It takes good awareness and positioning to do things "easily". I've seen maxed out dudes hop into a Heresy mission and get clapped cause they think you can just overgear content. Doesn't work like that in Tide games. Being 30 and having access to your full build is obviously important, but there's no magical breakpoint. You can do Heresy at level 1 with a good enough group.

[minor bison]

Like this miniboss is just plain insane

[crystal barn]

Apparently that one has a two round normal fire and a three round alt fire

[rare jungle]

Hey guys how do you deal with Daemonhosts?

[spice sigil]

Are we free from endless hordes?

[crystal barn]

I'd like to see that

[burnt pendant]

Well, that's generally what I assume. But if someone apparently sees people under level 20 in dif 4 and decides this must be a bad joke, one ponders if maybe that's a relevant breakpoint, somehow.
I do remember I was berated for a length of time when I joined a dif 3 mission on level 7 or so. I still don't understand why.

[signal cipher]

I hate cliffhanger 😦

[lone otter]

Have you tried hitting it really hard with your bonkin' apparatus? Or maybe shooting it really hard with your pewing devices?

[tepid minnow]

thunder hammer with fully charged heavy attack and thunder effect charged.
but that was at Sedition(1) level.

[crystal barn]

Hell is a Daemonhost

[signal cipher]

What's it sounds like

[next lantern]

yeah might as well just fucking alt f4 if you see this dude

[rare jungle]

The problem we had is we couldn't interrupt it finishing people off and it's attacks are -nasty-

[tepid minnow]

exactly what it soulds like
cultist posessed/playing host to a daemon

[minor bison]

The Daemonhost is based off ravager style enemy its absurd

You cant defend
You cant dodge
The ads or any mobs around will delay you until the berzerk daemon kills you

[spice sigil]

In lore would we be killed after seeing it?

[next lantern]

we killed it and it just came back

[crystal barn]

And here I thought it might be a 40k monster I haven't heard about

[tepid minnow]

since we work with an inquisitor, not necessarily

[rigid wasp]

why does the plasma gun look so fucking cool

I love the look of it

watching the dudes video

and plasma is mwah

I love it

[fallen rock]

I mean in lore def would be killed / or mind wiped

[rigid wasp]

daemonhosts exist, the first ever daemonhosts are the Gal Vorbak, of the Word Bearers legion

[tepid minnow]

depends on the inquisitor, ultimately
some inquisitors use daemonhosts as weapons

[rigid wasp]

this is the first of the dameonhosts

[bold saffron]

Soooo

I just ran into my first Demon host

[rigid wasp]

I hate how people refuse to play as a team in this ame

[bold saffron]

It sucks

[rigid wasp]

at higher diffs

It's always Zealots too

but the ones we're seeing are cultists

[wet bloom]

Finally espionage and I lose

[bold saffron]

Ye they are Taken Cultists iirc

[wet bloom]

sad

[crystal barn]

So DoW Possesed squads

[slow fog]

Is there a way to interrupt the daemonhost eating downed people?

[bold saffron]

No?

[minor bison]

Dont blame game

Blame people who are too dumb to understand it

[signal cipher]

Depends on who needs to be called in to kill it, lore wise we are working for the people in charge of killing this kinda stuff so we are kinda sorta in the clear

[tepid minnow]

kill them faster, maybe?

[next lantern]

he's literally talking about people lol

[crystal barn]

Wdym you don't enjoy people that do their own thing somewhere else

[next lantern]

I mean, how do you kill it fast enough? It has a ton of health it's very difficult to range

[rigid wasp]

You press F as a veteran

and use a bolter

15 rounds of 0 recoil bolter can pretty much chunk anything

[next lantern]

even a thing with a healthbar? Like the nurgle boss thing?

[signal cipher]

It's lore accurate

[rigid wasp]

Yep I was just on a Heresy mission

And beast of nurgle each bolter mag just took big chunks out of his hp

[next lantern]

That's my point it's really difficult and "well play the overpowered thing that chunks it" I mean might as well just ask us to shut up or something

[ocean flower]

let someone die, activate your sharpshooter ability, ez headshots

[tepid minnow]

I bonked it with a electric fully charged heavy attack from my thunderhammer

[feral gust]

Does GameLVL3 diffuculty mean -** 'medium difficulty for player'** or is it recommended for lvl 10 players?

[next lantern]

The best thing I got is my chainsaw axe and it wasn't going down very quickly at all

[pastel canyon]

oh great a boss that needs all 4 players to focus it in a gamer where 2-3 people always ignore ths boss saying "my teammates will handle it i wanna go swing at this horde instead"

[tepid minnow]

kinda niche to manage to get it to all work out like that though

[next lantern]

do the deamonhosts keep coming back throughout the map? because the second people got our downed people back up another daemonhost spawned immediately

[tired crown]

I'd say 10 might even be a bit low if you're new to tide games.

[tired crown]

Did you kill it before it escaped?

[next lantern]

apparently not!

So if it escapes it shows up with what all it's health back or something?

[tired crown]

We just had one down two of us and vanish, I managed to kill it when it showed up again then it was all quiet on the Tertian front.

[ocean flower]

Malice difficulty has significantly more specials/elites, bigger hordes, and higher hp enemies than difficulties 1 and 2. if you're new to 'tide games, i'd say level 20 or so would make it "average" difficulty. if you're an old hand, level ~10 should have you pulling your weight

[next lantern]

when it showed up again it didn't even have a health bar so I was pretty confused

[wide swift]

Do NOT get downed by the daemonhost

[tepid minnow]

Malice(3) is more reccomended for 15+ players, or that's what I've seen others say

[serene ibex]

how do you get someone out of a demonhost grasp

two of us just got choked to death

[ocean flower]

shoot the daemonhost big lots

[next lantern]

Honestly like, I don't know if I'm getting trolled here but when someone asks questions and the answers are "do more damage" "don't die" etc it's like

[ocean flower]

until it dies

[tired crown]

Ours did but I didn't check, it was feasting on my ogryn so I just saw red.

[next lantern]

just call me a piece of shit, lol

[feral gust]

I feel so much better
absolutely new to tide games - and on a crappy graphics card... ... recommended player-lvl for Tide-noob?

[tepid minnow]

20+

[silver glade]

Jesus he was scary

[next lantern]

like these endless non-answers when I'm trying to get GAMEPLAY HELP I don't get it. Have I done something wrong, is this not the channel to ask questions?

[tired crown]

Those people aren't worth your time, just block and move on. I see quite a few -blocked message- notifications in this channel.

[ocean flower]

i don't think there really are tips for dealing with a deamonhost. one person just can't do it, it's too aggressive and unpredictable. you just have to rely on your team to pour as much damage into it as possible before it fully kills someone

[next lantern]

We had most of the team there I dunno maybe we were too low or just had bad luck

I think our psyker wasn't helping but I couldn't tell

[tired crown]

I'd say give it a go at 12-15 and see how you feel? It's like a trial by fire thing, malice and higher forces you to get better but the interim can be tough!

[silver glade]

we managed to kill it on malice, it was a bullet sponge

[grand flint]

mission i just did had 4 daemonhosts, we skipped the first one and killed the second one then skipped the last 2, doesn't seem to be any reason to kill them if you can avoid them, I'm guessing they're supposed to be similar to witches from l4d2

[feral gust]

I've been attempting this for a while: Feels like I've been reponsible for more PartyKills than Khorne

[next lantern]

yeah it seemed like a witch to me but somebody shot it

[tired crown]

Good info, thank you. We had one on heresy with no lights and 3 vets, one of whom had a revolver 😬

[next lantern]

alright well it's good to know. I thought it was like a mission thing or something

[ocean flower]

i was on a difficulty 2 mission and we saw two daemonhosts, both times it downed someone. you don't get jack shit for killing them, and i thiink they only aggro if you hurt them, so just like... don't do that

[pastel canyon]

demonhost is the worst boss for playing solo since half the team ignores the boss when it spawns leading to a guaranteed death or 2

[crimson stag]

Recommended level for a tide noob is any level, as long as you're running on comms with 3 other people who know what they're doing who can point out what you're doing wrong

You will literally never improve if you don't know why you're dying

[silver glade]

if the demonhost sucks the soul of 2 players, it buggers off

[elder lagoon]

hey guys, did you kill Deamonhost already ?

[tired crown]

Yeah. Just did on heresy

[silver glade]

just isnt fun if it spawns with 2 ogyrns and 2 maulers

[grand flint]

as long as you dont touch it you can get pretty close to it it seems, i was on difficulty 2 and it was still rough, it maxed out someones corruption almost instantly, I can see them being an instant wipe on 4 or 5

[elder lagoon]

@tired crown any way to knock him when hes eating soul ?

[ocean flower]

yeah i'd say to just treat them like L4D Witches

don't fuck with them and they won't fuck you

[tired crown]

Not that I know of, just stick your bolter in his mouth and feed him that instead.

[azure cove]

Ran into a daemonhost, half health and it just fucked off.

[silver glade]

its so much harder as i needed a flashligh lasgun and dont have an infernus recon yet

[ocean flower]

otherwise, get the flamer. the HEAVY flamer

[feral gust]

PlayerComms - you have to be on a 'clan/StrikeTeam' right? (not total strangers)

[next lantern]

are there any 'not worth it feats' for zealot tier 1 and tier 2?

[silver glade]

No Brother, the HEAVIEST flamer.

[grand flint]

they're very hard to kill with ranged, they move fast and teleport all over the place

[pastel canyon]

unkitable, unblockable, unsolokillable, what a mix

[tired crown]

That's what I got him down with, half health with power sword other half with fire lasgun

[tepid minnow]

no, you can use VC with PuG, but iirc voice is off in the settings by default

[ocean flower]

they're basically a dps race, yeah

[crimson stag]

No, just hop into a voice channel in this discord, plenty of knowledgeable people here on comms. The biggest piece of advice any new player needs is to learn positionnig and foot work. It's not a hack and slash. Push shoving, block countering, and dodging will save your life 9 times out of 10

[blissful python]

How often will they rotate missions out? I'm apparently missing some stuff on malice

[ocean flower]

"can you kill this before it kills two people"

[silver glade]

thankfully i have a decent kantral but damn

[silver glade]

every 10 minutes

[tired crown]

It was brutal, Im just starting to step into level 4 missions (no friends that play, only pugs) and the daemonhost was a fun discovery.

[tepid minnow]

apparently lvl 4 is bugged anyway, endless horde is apparently ALWAYS on

[crimson stag]

#vox-lfg-nasa or whatever region you're in

[silver glade]

find some guys to play on comms with, its worth it. did a few damnations yesterday at level 20-24

[rigid wasp]

the darkness mechanic honestly makes the flamer more useful to have

as a source of light

[tired crown]

It's not with the new modifier! Night time level 4 isn't endless horde.

[thin nebula]

endless horse, yeehaw

[silver glade]

thats some big brain shit there

[tired crown]

Yeah, been trying to make friends in game but the system is clunky as hell. Plus I have no mic so I just deal.

[tepid minnow]

good to know
@thin nebula dammit, hoped I'd fixed that before anyone saw xD

[ocean flower]

you know, i bet a shield ogryn can cheese a daemonhost

[silver glade]

buy one, seriously amazon it for like £10

[tough cove]

jus tmanaged to tank one on my zealot on malice

dodge and block, rest of team kills

ez pz

[slow fog]

Yeah OK FS, WTF is up with daemonhost

[tired crown]

Well my play time is also when the 2 year old is asleep in the next room, hah.

[shrewd python]

U can, but he still stacks up trauma a little

[silver glade]

well if you let poeple know you can just listen to comms

[tired crown]

What difficulty? Ours spawned with a bunch of crushers and maulers.

[slow fog]

It is straight up busted. It will kill you in two hits, uninterruptably finish you off, do the same to another party member, then vanish and come back at full health later

[tired crown]

That's a good idea, I usually don't have much to say anyway.

[formal atlas]

What's up with the new daemon enemy? That enemy is brutal

[tired crown]

You can also just not fight it

...which I didn't know, we smashed through the mission with zero grace.

[patent sapphire]

does it target the first person to damage them?

[chrome thunder]

is there way to see which type of missions you completed

[tepid minnow]

like 99% of us xD

[shrewd python]

Seems like it

[tired crown]

It's the way The Emprah intended!

[patent sapphire]

that explains why i had to tank one 3 times

[tired crown]

He didn't* make Astartes to be sneaky.

[tough cove]

last word in the sentence 😛

we have a 2nd one infront of us already 😦

[tired crown]

Shhh, I'm tired. Shhhhhh

[ocean flower]

eh it's hardly that hard. you can hardly do so indefinitely, but you can dodge and block it for a while, and if you fall to it then it sits still for half an hour for your team to pour lasfire into its head

[tired crown]

You've got this friend, your commitment to enforcing His will is admirable.

[ocean flower]

if you have a team that cooperates, its definitely a beatable foe

[slow fog]

Yeah no that's not what's happened

[dull garden]

God I hope we get a checklist for missions we need to do for penances and such

[silver glade]

unfortunately no

[slow fog]

That is so disingenuous lmao

They can legitimately take off 3/4 of our health in 2 seconds

[ocean flower]

yeah, that's why you block and dodge

[slow fog]

Oh shut up

That is clearly busted

[silver glade]

because its a challange?

[slow fog]

Literally nothing in the game has anywhere near that damage

[dull garden]

It really isn't, cooperate with your team, block and dodge, it's doable

[patent sapphire]

if someone pops the witch daemonhost before everyone is ready it will be a pain in the ass but if you're coordinated i feel like you can kill it without anyone going down

[silver glade]

we killed it all 3 times on malice. with a bot. wasnt too hard

[ocean flower]

it is definitely a tough foe, and one that you can't just waltz into willy-nilly

[kind flicker]

Does the daemonhost prioritize psykers?

[ocean flower]

but i've seen greater nonsense before

[errant shale]

exactly what i thought, its a l4d witch basically

[slow fog]

The amount of akshuly going on haha

[ocean flower]

i don't think so? it seems like it might aggro on to the one who triggers it

[slow fog]

Yes it is killable, but it is clearly overtuned

[minor bison]

Daemonhost = Witch of L4D

Dont startled the witch guys you can dodge it if you want

Can be killed but clearly the boss will just pound you into warp dust

[ocean flower]

well, you can generally dodge it. sometimes they show up in hallways

[patent sapphire]

idk, it is the first time i've been downed in an uprising mission in probably 30 hours

[slow fog]

Do they only spawn in darkness missions?

[patent sapphire]

i believe so

[ocean flower]

it seems like it, based on youtube coverage, but i haven't exactly thoroughly tested

[slow fog]

I was on Malice with three veterans, all level 20+ with penance helmets

cant say wooped in caps?

[silver glade]

the reason you got whooped before the admin attacks you, was because you had no block

[ocean flower]

i think there was just too high a percentage of caps? idk, that's the first i've seen that bot

[slow fog]

Maybe, I just said got WOOPED

and it got deleted haha

[slow fog]

You dont know that

[patent sapphire]

that bot is the replacement for slow mode

[slow fog]

I did block

[next lantern]

do I really have to wait a whole week until daemonhosts are no longer in the matches?

[patent sapphire]

if you type too many messages too quickly or all caps or other disruptive stuff you get deleted

[slow fog]

The amount of gitguddery mein gott

[silver glade]

honestly 3 vets is too much for anything above malice

you just dont get the benefits of a balanced team

[next lantern]

I've had daemonhost in every match I've done so far

[slow fog]

Thank you oh wise one for advice I didnt ask for and already knew

[silver glade]

especially if the vets are rocking recon las without infurnus

[slow fog]

It was a pug

[finite vine]

Alright, so I never found a daemonhost until today, safely say do not look forward to it

[silver glade]

jesus you are a NaCl man.... shame you are in the gameplay help section you know 🤷

[tough cove]

It's okay, we just killed the 2nd on malice, I again tanked as zealot, I think all you need is a zealot or ogryn with shield

[next lantern]

yeah like I guess they're just in every match you play for this week, which I really don't think is fun at all It'd be one thing if they were random or something

[silver glade]

just for the darkness event

[minor flower]

We just had four in one malice run

[next lantern]

I'm getting darkness every quick queue I do

[slate moon]

BY ALL THAT IS HOLY

Demon host is bloody scary

It's a witch from L4D

[next lantern]

It's a bit worse than that really

[slate moon]

Yeah, witch you can in fact kill

This thing tho....

[next lantern]

it's more like if they combined the witch and the tank

[slate moon]

It also bloody finishes up people. If it wasn't evil enough

[next lantern]

Also it can teleport away and reappear

[bleak ether]

Can anyone suggest the best way to pass this achievement ?

[finite vine]

The fact there is multiple on a mission is terrifying

[elder lagoon]

guys how we need to use ogryn shield please ?

just stay behind ogryn ? he needs to use special ? or just shield in hand ?

[slate moon]

If it's the same one over and over, THAT's much scarier IMHO

[slate moon]

Plasma, I guess. Hard to miss. Quite low on ammo

[finite vine]

Oh yeah

[cold tiger]

does the surge (lightning) staff sometimes proc a dot that stuns enemies?

[bleak ether]

Tried plasma and stub revolver. But it doesn't work :D

[obtuse smelt]

that was pretty easy

and spooky

[elder lagoon]

@obtuse smelt yeh

Just did it with randoms on low lvls 😄

[bitter summit]

lets gooo

[crimson stag]

Use a Revolver. Get to the end of a mission on Endless Horde + Heresy. Don't fire any shots until you get there. During the Evac portion, wait for mobs to funnel towards you. Aim center mass, dont go for headshots.

Hab Dreyco is a great mission for it

[wide swift]

can you just avoid the daemonhost?

[crimson stag]

Smelter is another good levle

[tough cove]

On the power core mission, in 1 spot yes, the other no

[livid marsh]

yes, mostly

sometimes they'll be in a spot you have to go through

[tepid minnow]

yeah, just don't trigger it by injuring it

[tough cove]

it also triggers if you get too close

we didn't shoot it and she woke up

[livid marsh]

btw, zealots hammer absolutely chunks monstrosities, including daemon host

[tepid minnow]

ahhh, i must've managed to avoid getting too close, despite being pretty close then

[cursive citrus]

oh my, is relay station finally back?

[bitter summit]

yea 😄

[sweet tangle]

I have received YON HAMMER

[bitter summit]

one of my fave maps

[cursive citrus]

finally. so what's this daemon host thing im hearing about and what it do

can i kill it with a bolter

[sweet tangle]

it's actually quite cool on the lights out modifier

[tepid minnow]

easy to spot them on lights out xD

[sweet tangle]

the previous lights out was super foggy, but this one is really nice and dark

[formal atlas]

The flames from a Purgatus Force staff, are they considered to be the same as soul-blaze fire?

[tepid minnow]

that wasn't lights out though, that was 'reduced visibility' because they were purging the ventilation system

[proper coral]

Dude, that daemonhost about made me need to change my pants. Thing straight up wiped my group in short order with the dark even going on.

[sweet tangle]

oh

moral of the story is fog sucks, lights out is awesome

[tepid minnow]

what difficulty?

[desert solstice]

my dudes, why is my mind over matter penance stuck at 6/7 when ive done every mission type? Ive even got the inquisitorial recruit penance!

[proper coral]

Simply Malice, but not everyone had lights.

[sweet tangle]

disruption came back today, play that

[desert solstice]

Ive done it.

ive done them all.

[sweet tangle]

I had done them all too

but had to do disruption on malice again

[desert solstice]

i have the penance that gives you a border that only completes when you do one of every mission type

[sweet tangle]

maybe espionage idk

[tepid minnow]

i havn't played malice in lights out yet
although, I run flamer and Hammer, so I'm one of those with no light xD

[sweet tangle]

Hammer kills new boss in like 2 charges and 3 swings

[wintry harness]

flamer=light

[tepid minnow]

until your fuel runs out becasue the veterans steal all the ammo xD

[sweet tangle]

any other zealots find the hitbox for charging beast of nurgle is kind of broken?

at least from behind

[wintry harness]

ye its a common problem I recently witnessed, just snagging ammo without any real need

[cold tiger]

has there been a patch or is it just daemonhost and the new warning?

[civic spade]

uh oh I just got vantage point 2 but didn't get vantage point 1 complete

[spiral gale]

Havent rlly taken a look so im not sure, but is there a way to party up wif friends?

[rigid wasp]

social tab, invite to strike team

(yes)

[spiral gale]

Nice thanks!

[jagged olive]

Espionage just came up too, it's been gone for a week

[bleak ether]

Thank you, I will try it)

[tepid minnow]

no patch, just daemonhost and lights out mode
so they must've been in the last patch

[rigid wasp]

decent?

[patent cedar]

What counts as (infested enemies)?

[rigid wasp]

poxwalkers generally i think

[haughty umbra]

Dogs and poxwalkers, you can see in the meat grinder if you just decide to bonk them

[eager zenith]

Anybody having same issues ?

[tepid minnow]

apparently hammers are the only weapon that can't be upgraded currently

[desert solstice]

@jagged olive ive done all the mission types including the new ones

[eager zenith]

ty, will wait then, just trying to "craft" something good

[spiral gale]

Also, has the crashing on startup been fixed?

My friend faced it previously when the beta first started, so he refunded the game but now wants to get it again

[lost shard]

anyone available to help me complete the "Cliffhanger" penance on my Psyker? (kill 20 enemies within 2 seconds by pushing them off a ledge). It's the last penance I need for my helm.

[cold moon]

that depends on each person's computer and the programs installed on it

[tepid minnow]

not sure, but from what i've seen other people say the refundign doesn't lock out until after full release anyway
so your friend could get it and try again and if it doesn't work try again on full launch

(in 3-4 days)

[proper coral]

Is there a way to change the colour of the highlight from the Veterans ability so I can see past people running flamers?

[zealous pollen]

Until Death bugged at the moment? Can't get it to proc

[bright relic]

I've been having issues where the game just crashes randomly and I can't tell what causes it. Keeps getting more frequent and I'm starting to get very pissed about it.

[uncut tangle]

Had the same issue, it's usually at the end of the match as well.

[bright relic]

For me, it's mostly during fights with hoards.

[tepid minnow]

I've had a few crashes myself, for me it always seems to be when I zealot charge a special or boss

[bright relic]

But I have had it crashed during the end too.

[tepid minnow]

but lots of disconnects here

[feral gust]

holy heck - the dark/demon is horrible without a flashlight

[stoic heath]

is this braced grey autogun a good buy to upgrade, or should I try to get one in the 300+ range?

[uncut tangle]

I would look at stats over the rating

On my ogryn I still use a 280 rating stubber over a 368 due to the damage and range stat

[lost shard]

So it's better to buy a grey and upgrade it?

[dry wind]

Im gonna bust

[bold bronze]

Green is 10-25 item score "better" than grey, so that means that "at worst" the 301 has a "grey score" of 276. So technically it should have higher baseline stats.

Also, the two guns you are showing are completely different weapons, so their stats don't really compare.

[dry wind]

Upgraded my power sword into this

[uncut tangle]

Oh on the store run?

[stoic heath]

you buy high tier ones with good blessings to rip off and put on other weapons, and you buy greys with high base stats

[uncut tangle]

Need to upgrade my power sword as well can't find one better then the 330 one I have

[stuck patrol]

So, what are the 'meta' weapons for zealot right now? I'm currently rocking a knife and then my ranged weapon i just bounce between bolter, flamer and Autogun

[uncut tangle]

Personally I use a flamer if I have a good vet on my team

[thin nebula]

I was pretty disappointed with thunder hammer

[verbal vine]

Bolter, melee is kind of dealers choice

Flamer is great if you have reliable team mates

[stuck patrol]

playing completely pugs, so no reliable there

[uncut tangle]

The special is so satisfying on the thunder hammer but was also kinda dissapointed

[verbal vine]

Problem is you cant contribute against mini bosses if you have the flamer, cant deal with gunners, snipers

[bold bronze]

Lots of people swear by the 2h chainsword. I found the 1h chainsword works nicely as well.

As for ranged...I'm not loving the flamer, so I'm mostly using shotgun or braced-autogun and I'm tempted to run the revolver for mobility (the mobility on the laspistol is also nice, but the damage output is hilariously bad).

[burnt sierra]

finally got the Tier 3 Hat for zealot after 123h, waiting for Disruption and Espionage to come back was so annoying

[uncut tangle]

Yes bolter is better then, half the time your teammates don't even kill the scab shooters or specials so you end up having to do it.

[proper coral]

Also, flamers kinda neuter the Vets Special ability because the high light is orange.

[stuck patrol]

Only complaint i have with the bolter is it takes so damn long before you can fire the thing after pulling it out

[uncut tangle]

Is espionage back on

[thin nebula]

disruption is back

[pastel canyon]

why is it so hard to comprehend that the boss is more important than a group of 5 poxwalkers, how are people so fucking braindead

[bright relic]

Considering it can one shot some Dregs, I think it's a fair trade

[burnt sierra]

espionage was available about 1 or 2 hours ago

[uncut tangle]

Cheers, will run it later tonight.

[lapis bramble]

I am only missing one mission for Penance

and I don't know which one is.

[uncut tangle]

What you can so with the bolter is reload and switch after you put in the Mag.

[gaunt oracle]

how r we supposed to beat the new daimon host? he spawned on 4 consecutive missions. if we beat him, he can spawn again, eventually resulting in a team wipe. 4 missions. 4 complete wipes.

[uncut tangle]

The animation is quicker then when you normally switch to it

[shrewd laurel]

Don't activate it

[nova fractal]

You don't have to fight it. It's kind of like the witch from L4D

[gaunt oracle]

what do u mean activate it?

what activates it

[thin nebula]

avoid it

[gaunt oracle]

u mean just run away when it spawns?

[nova fractal]

don't attack it or get near it

[light flume]

attacking it

[grave briar]

Don't piss it off by shooting it or getting close

[uncut tangle]

Basically just go around it

Like in L4D

[hollow spear]

How do you do the while dashing kill a mutant penance?

[gaunt oracle]

okay, 2 of those missions we could not go around

[thin nebula]

it needs to be charging too I think

[gaunt oracle]

I am sorry, I never played L4D, there were better games at the time :p

[nova fractal]

😮 how dare you

[gaunt oracle]

okay, good advice, thx

[grave briar]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547

[gaunt oracle]

but can u interrupt its stun lock?

[burnt sierra]

as it seems both you and the mutant have to be charging, also your attack has to be during the charge, not at the very end, so make sure to dash past the mutant to get a surefire way of obtaining it

[light flume]

You can get close to it, just don't attack it or flashlight it up close. It's inactive when you first see it every time.

[uncut tangle]

Use special on a power hammer and prep heavy attack and use your charge

[nova fractal]

just gotta block a few hits and dodge

[gaunt oracle]

oh, it was lights out missions everytime. guess we couldnt help but wake it up accidentally then

good point

[bright relic]

At one point it started attacking me, but never did any damage

[gaunt oracle]

and is the daimon host now on every mission type? or only some?

[tough cove]

daemonhost also appears in missions that don't have the power outage modifier

[light flume]

Well, you can definitely hear it too.

[wintry sequoia]

I'm struggling with something, think you could help me.. what does the consumption of a grimoire do ?

[uncut tangle]

Lights out only from what I heard

[bright relic]

Gets rid of it

[burnt sierra]

it destroys the grim

[tough cove]

I'm saying it because that's not the case 😛

[gaunt oracle]

we also had it on the desert map, so definitely not exclusive to power outage

[sonic quail]

Consumption? You mean « using » it?
It will only destroy it lmao

[wintry sequoia]

Ok, so the effects of the grimoire go off

[sonic quail]

Yup

[bright relic]

Yes

[wintry sequoia]

Understood, thanks !

[uncut tangle]

Oh neat cheers, don't like lights out tbh

[sonic quail]

But you also lose the second objective of the mission ofc

[tough cove]

I like it, but wish the boss' attention would swap between teammates

[feral gust]

is there a flashlight in the game (without the gun)

[uncut tangle]

Do we have a list of the prefixs on guns

Like shattering impact etx

[wintry sequoia]

Got 4 demonic possession in one single game (with lights outs), hopefully in level 3 difficulty