gameplay-help

[tight cedar]

yeah the blues in the shop dont generally go above 400

[latent sorrel]

dumb question but how do i stop dying so quickly when theres a horde?

[craggy solar]

push and dodge

[normal tendon]

Need more info

[jagged vigil]

what class/lvl?

[normal tendon]

What class are you playing, what level, what difficulty?

What weapons?

[latent sorrel]

psyker and lvl 8 and difficulty 2-3 with a force sword and the staff that makes big boom

[craggy solar]

if you are newer to the tide series i would recommed a horde clear melee weapon

[latent sorrel]

wait sorry i have the axe

[lilac talon]

Try and dodge to manipulate enemies to funnel from one direction. Then blow them up

[rigid wasp]

which axe

[tough prism]

Any one know why disrupt isn't showing up anymore? it's been an hour... emperor please I need this

[robust moat]

dodging, blocking, push attack during blocks (some weapons need you to reset your dodge or it gets slow, push block can work for that)

[tight cedar]

well in an ideal world your team would keep the horde off you

[jagged vigil]

in general - hide behind backs of your team and use staff from safe place. If enemies come close block-push them while moving backwards and slash at heads, also try to dodge toward your team to reaggro cultist-chans on them

[rigid wasp]

Ideal team is just you (veteran) and 3 other veterans

[tight cedar]

lul

not wrong

[lilac talon]

Veteran w/ Camouflage says hi

[sour flower]

are some missions rarer than others? all my missions are just strikes

[jagged vigil]

chaos forces are on a strike (sorry, couldn't resist)

[grave ocean]

am i winning

i got my first bolter :D

[latent sorrel]

dumb question is block realyl that usefull?

[sour flower]

dodging is better

[worldly flame]

ive been lvl 30 for a few days, still havent seen a single bolter, thoughts?

[jagged vigil]

I'm at lvl 21 and still haven't got bolter

[marble hinge]

several have been disabled, some are deffo rare, like Investigation is still up but is the least common. Might be related to available levels/missions for those levels right now, I don't know the reason.

[latent sorrel]

most of the times im being fought into a corner so i cant dodge-

[robust moat]

dodging is best, blocking is still needed, and for some weapons push block attack is really good

[latent sorrel]

or surrounded

[sour flower]

which ones? i need investigation and espionage

[robust moat]

it takes practice, but you gotta dodge while avoiding that being cornered basically

[marble hinge]

haven't seen espionage in days, possibly not since day 2

[sour flower]

yeah me neither

[serene latch]

keep killing the flanks so you don't get pushed into the corner

[latent sorrel]

problem is

they dont die

i hit them but they stay alive

[sour flower]

cant wait to finally see espionage again and it not even being on malice

[serene latch]

get better weapon? reduce difficulty?

[robust moat]

weapons you choose, which attacks to use with them, and of course.. aim for the head,even in melee

[latent sorrel]

what weapons?

i use a blue axe

[robust moat]

stay at lvl 1/2 until you get the hang of it more since it is far more forgiving

[arctic kelp]

are specialists like the shotgunners, or are those elites?

[serene latch]

there's like 30 variants of axes dude, get the one with 0 cleavage

one that headshots

you'll pick them out 1 by 1

[cerulean pelican]

which ogryn melee has the best horde clear heavy?

[latent sorrel]

imma look once im out of mission

[cerulean pelican]

Like a sweeping attack

[serene latch]

VIII combat axe iirc

[robust moat]

some,if not all, the axes have great block push attacks for hordes

while also dodging,lol.. still gotta dodge

[serene latch]

oh def, also prioritise the enemies that are about to hit you

don't attack enemies you just pushed

push-attack-dodge-attack-attack-push-dogde

[sour flower]

🥹

[serene latch]

and you gotta dodge towards the side where least enemies are

you should be able to clean a horde by yourself really on diff 2-4 depends how good your push-dodge is

[verbal echo]

what is rending?

[spice sigil]

think it lowers enemy armour

[robust moat]

i think rend is bleed, and shredder is armor reduction?

[serene latch]

i thought render is staggering for range?

[spice sigil]

If only there was tooltips haha

[verbal echo]

im guessing its something to do with armour

as i have bleed on my chainsword and that says 2 stacks of bleed etc

[serene latch]

have they confirmed tooltips/guides for the stats?

[verbal echo]

they are working on it iirc

[robust moat]

I mean, i didnt think so but im definitely not 100% either

[serene latch]

i rly wish they would make currencies account-wide

[robust moat]

that would be great, lol

[serene latch]

there's no way you gonna have 4 different classes all high end tierd

dumb af

[verbal echo]

you and everyone else :p

its the same amount of grind but it lets you play what you want

[robust moat]

lucky for me, not a completionist lol, ill be okay without maxing everyone

[verbal echo]

Like i dunno vermintide 2 did? ;p

[robust moat]

yes

verm2, was account wide

[verbal echo]

i like playing all classes i did in vt so nothing be shared suuuucks 😦

[robust moat]

the currencies*

[patent sapphire]

which lasgun do you want infernus on? the accatran?

[verbal echo]

elf and sienna was my main but played all

i guess accatran as it shoots faster so more procs?

[deep sapphire]

Anyone playing on a 5600X and RTX 3070 here? I would like to know your performance.

[robust moat]

dwarf,senna, then kerrigan for me in verm2

[verbal echo]

im on a rtx 3070 and other than crashes its working good

[patent sapphire]

3070 here, works well

[verbal echo]

stability is the main problem im getting

[robust moat]

i have better cpu/gpu than that and the game is wildly flucuating tbh,lol

stability is FS side, and it is def lacking atm

[sour flower]

love getting level 10's in my heresy lobbies ❤️

[robust moat]

also fps is not stable, half the stuff you change doesnt seem to impact aanything, and opening and closing options every game is an fps boost,lol

[patent sapphire]

i just turned off raytracing and now i have basically no fps drops ever

kinda sucks but it worked for me

[sour flower]

exactly what i did

[past shale]

also if you use nvidia

[robust moat]

mine is just random missions decide to be fps drop, even if its the same mission back to back.. one fine, one wonky

even with raytracing off

[past shale]

go to control panel > power management > Adaptive or Max Performance, i keep it adaptive as to not waste power when not needed but ingame it goes max power

aslo

control panel > threaded optimization > on

[hoary oyster]

Is there much strategy to beast of nurgle other than try and shoot it in its weakspot? Feels like that's one of the things that gives groups more trouble on dif 3. I'm usually playing a zealot with a bolter as the ranged option.

[past shale]

@hoary oyster i just started zealot i wish i can help you

[tight cedar]

nope just walk away from it while shooting

[past shale]

nurgle is that monster that charges?

[robust moat]

dodge his grab to eat you
dodge his spew and kite as ppl smack his butt,lol

[past shale]

or the boss

i just dodge and shoot

think of it like this, its similar to vermintide

so when i play markus kruber merc

i save the range weapon for elites, range enemies, and bosses that you can't afford to be close to hit them

here i just dodge and shoot, i am glad animations are so much smoother its so easier to play

feels like the player hit boxes are a little big bigger then they should be

[tight cedar]

tbh the only real threat from the big slug is if it eats you and decides to spit you off the map

otherwise its a pretty pointless creature

[past shale]

ye doesnt even deal that much dmg

[hoary oyster]

Yeah okay so not missing anything with it, thanks

[serene latch]

dude this game is vermintide with 40k skin mod on, it has that shitty ass vermintide rush rat crap, where they "slide" super fast to hit you if you dogde alot

have you not noticed it?

[robust moat]

hm, has way way less of that then verm2 imo

[latent sorrel]

ok well im back from my mission now i do have those weapons and idk how to survive hordes-

[tight cedar]

yeah its definitely still a thing in darktide although not nearly as bad as vermin

still some phantom range too but thats also not as bad as vermin

[serene latch]

cause people don't dogdge that much in darktide, you shoot alot and the % wise you dodge and do that shit in this vt clone way less

so you don't notice it

play melee only on high diffs, you'll notice it quite quickly

[foggy dome]

anyone found where to change input mic? ive set it to push to talk but it still wont work for me xD

[hoary oyster]

Ragers feel like they have the most of this

[unborn jasper]

is stacking + power and martyr stacks on zealot a good choice?

i mean +35 dmg is NOTHING

not even % dmg

[robust moat]

martyrdom seems weak overall

so imo, no i wouldnt stack it,
that same feat line has % dmg bonus's that seems much better

[rigid wasp]

Is the scripture/grim guide on steam removed?

nvm I'm dum

[tight shale]

Is there any way to see which missions you've completed on X difficulty or higher? (such as figuring out what's missing for doing all missions on Malice)

[marble hinge]

Level 1 disruption mission just appeared 😮

[grave heart]

just read the steam post, so crafting won't let us reroll stat bars?

[raw mango]

do zealots have a base level of crit chance or do we only get crit from modifiers

[spiral gale]

How do u get the long bomb penance?

Everytime a horde appears i try to long throw the bomb, but it always hits smth then detonates 😑

[grave heart]

from what i understand, most weapons have a 5% crit chance with things like combat knives and duelling swords having a higher base crit.

[spiral gale]

Also isit me or is chainsword just better than power sword lol

[dreamy carbon]

Still no fix for these?

[shrewd pendant]

How can you tell if your weapon rolled on the high end of dmg without comparing it to tons of other weapons?

[bleak maple]

should i upgrade my bolt gun to purple or use crafting materials for something else?

[grave heart]

just you. powersword is broken unless they nerfed it and i didn't notice

[mystic wyvern]

I have a surge staff with 227 rating doing 750 damage to enemies in the meat grinder, and a 308 rating surge staff (with higher attribute bars on literally every stat) hitting for 480 damage on average on max charge, is this a bug or normal? (Regardless of what enemy I attacked, there was always a 250-300 damage disparity, with the 227 weapon hitting that much harder and yes this is at 0 peril and not including crits which the 308 still did less critical damage xD)

[spiral grail]

is psykinetic's wrath worth it over warp resistance?

[spiral gale]

Hmmm. Idk i just felt i was doin more dmg wif the chainsword lol. N since it can kinda one shot elites n specials while powerswords cant.

[sage glacier]

you should probably report this

[green cipher]

So is it confirmed the Ogryn dont stop me now penance is impossible? Since they changed the 30 feat. The only way I can see it done is with insane bull rush CDR

[mystic wyvern]

Okay so this isn't me going crazy, and the stats are USUALLY reliable?

I've been scared to play because i dont want to continue to buy gear that looks better but isn't. It's demoralizing lol.

[sour flower]

can you still get cosmetics from the limited time store?

[green cipher]

Rating = How many 'substat' points are on the weapon
Bars show how many of those points are in to that stat with a cap of 350

if you find something obscenely broken its probably because ranged damage to elites is broken

any damage to elites is broken and is 10x effective

[shrewd pendant]

Has anyone else had the issue where your bank account is wiped out? I lost 150k+ after a random mission yesterday

[mystic wyvern]

Yee I'm aware of how the rating and bars work. It's just this weapon made me question all of the research I've done 😅

[green cipher]

it has ranged damage elites

its doing +40% damage

[mystic wyvern]

I see, so the staff is only worst because of that bug, that would make sense. Thanks for the heads up!

[inland pier]

For the weekly contracts, Can you only equip one at a time?

[shrewd pendant]

No you do them all

[craggy solar]

they are all active at the same time dont think you can equip em

[inland pier]

ahhh I see I see

I just need to read better lmao

thank you

[long moth]

I can’t consecrate my thunder hammer it keeps saying “unable to perform operation” 😦

[cobalt sonnet]

could anyone tell me what mission im missing for the "complete at least one mission of each type" achievement? i just did a disruption mission and im now at 6/7

[graceful escarp]

disruption is back on rotation

[cobalt sonnet]

yeah i just did that one so i wonder what i'm missing

[sour flower]

espionage probably

[cobalt sonnet]

that one is probably not in rotation?

you mean the fog map stuff right?

[stuck ridge]

I have noticed that there is a bit of input lag on swapping weapons. Sometimes this can really mess you up, but I'm not quite sure what, exactly, is causing this. There's some amount of not taking inputs while in an animation, but sometimes the input ignoring can last longer than the actual animation.

[outer meadow]

Is this a gun for countering enemy ranged, essentially?

[vagrant palm]

Is anyone know how to get spy mission? I need to make achievement for 7 types of psykenetick missions to get helmet and this is the last type

[stuck ridge]

It's a Horde Clearer. It'll do well against Scabs (Traitor Guardsmen) and Poxwalkers.

[keen linden]

just wait till you find it on the board

[sour flower]

it is but its really rare apparently

[storm laurel]

mg xii isn't great at horde clear

[outer meadow]

this lasgun isn't a rapid firing one though?

[sour flower]

?

[vagrant palm]

3d hour waiting😅👍

[shrewd pendant]

why not horde clear with melee weapon?

[keen linden]

yyup... hate how mission types can be out for a week at times...

[vagrant palm]

Yeah

[rigid wasp]

Why don't I see the buyable helm in the shop?

[stuck ridge]

I mean, all lasguns are rapid-firing (but not the one that can slam-fire), but that's what your damage is targeted towards. If you absolutely want to minmax, you could wait until transfer comes online and then transfer the perks, but the way that weapon works is Flak Armored enemies (Scabs, certain spots on Ogryn Elites, Scab Specialists) and Infested Enemies (Poxwalkers, Zombies)

[elder lagoon]

yeah i wonder when Sharks decide to totaly butcher Veteran, Power Swords and Bolters actually

[shrewd pendant]

Power sword > chain sword > combat axe. i'd just move on to the next thing and wouldnt think much of it tbh

I'm not really sure why game companies think its good to nerf stuff in a pve game instead of buffing everything that's weak and creating harder missions

[stuck ridge]

Probably not. Bolters have really low ammo already, and Power Swords seem to be operating at where they're supposed to for high level encounters.

[snow folio]

I've incounter an issue where my weekly mission complete 15 missions has climb up to 13 and now wont update when i finish a mission, Ive tried the usual cloing and reopening the game any ideas?

[stuck ridge]

You can't just buff everything, though, otherwise you end up with Inquisitor: Martyr levels of Bullet Sponging.

[neon swift]

So I've noticed that using my staff ability and killing enemies, does not generate toughness with Warp Absorption. Using the staff generates peril and is literally warp-fire. This is a bug right?

"Replenish 10% toughness when you kill an enemy with a warp attack" Staff generates peril, so it's a warp attack right?!

[stuck ridge]

Probably. I know some of the Vet Feats aren't fully working yet, like Counterfire not refreshing duration on kills

[grave heart]

yeah

[neon swift]

ok. Yeah kinda messing with me atm. hopefully it'll get fixed

That or they need to change the description of the ability.

[zealous summit]

hello, spy missions bugged?

[torpid grotto]

There really needs to be a progress checklist for the types of missions penances.

[grave heart]

it's called 'balance'
if one thing is too good you take power away from it and give it to a not so good thing

[sour flower]

?

[heavy shuttle]

Reminder: Twitch drops today for sword skin and ripper gun skin

[cold current]

Like, why is this good? The bars seems to be exactly the same? :S

[grave ocean]

New perk

[cold current]

thats all?

[heavy shuttle]

From my testing, it doesnt look like it buffs the stats. Simply adds a new perk or trait.

[polar sandal]

Consecration does not change stats, there’s no way of changing stats in the game right now

it adds a new Blessing (and a new slot for that Blessing)—which is very good, but you want to find a weapon with good base stats to upgrade

[cold current]

ah ok

[frosty star]

Question for "make every shot count" for sharpshooter it says complete do you have to beat the mission or no? Because there is the one zealot mission you have to do in under ten minutes and it says complete but the cheese was is to just die

And it still procs saying you "completed" it

[whole nebula]

that "cheese" is patched

[spice sigil]

For that penance can anyone confirm shotguns work?

[whole nebula]

or it at least doesn't work on that challenge

and sure but its still easier with bolter/revolver

[heavy shuttle]

I can confirm that a revolver works.

[spice sigil]

Ive been trying todo that penance for a while but now im proper lvl its endless horde permanently

[heavy shuttle]

Not necessarily a bad thing having a good blob to fire into.

[elder lagoon]

Guys hows Psyker doing on 4/5 difficulties compared to others ?
Non-staff play viable or its just burdening the team cuz of ammo consumption and less cc ?

[spice sigil]

Its too hard for randoms, I struggle anyway at that level currently

[whole nebula]

I feel like if not for endless horde I'd be finishing heresy a lot more and would've completed that challeneg by doing assassination

[frosty star]

Oh they patched the cheese for that one?

[heavy shuttle]

Have you tried using the discord lfg? Some pretty cool folks there.

[spice sigil]

Ye asked a few times

[whole nebula]

I'd say deffo get to 30 first, you need to be able to reliably complete heresy prior to that challenge

well, as reliable as you can rn anyways

[shrewd pendant]

Rate this 1-10

[spice sigil]

ye lvl 27 rn

[heavy shuttle]

8 but only because it doesnt have pinning fire

[patent sapphire]

seems good

[shrewd pendant]

Isn't that an extremely low damage roll?

[spice sigil]

Made it to the end a few time (missed shots throughout tho) always end up dieing at the end haha

[shrewd pendant]

I thought it was trash tbh, you can't use it before reblessing is released because there's no Pinning Fire and even after you can rebless it, the damage rolled so low you're better off upgrading a different one

[hazy holly]

what does the number impact on the items?

the rating i mean

[frosty star]

They patched the 100% Ammo cheese?

[shrewd pendant]

Rating is the combination of all the stat bars that you see

[patent sapphire]

it's a pool of that fills up the stat bars and perks and blessings are worth a certain amount

[whole nebula]

at least by completing it by dying

[hazy holly]

and whats the max rating?

[whole nebula]

also be careful talking about this stuff, it is against the rules, I can say, "this is fixed" but not what isn't fixed

[shrewd pendant]

Anyone got that video explaining dmg in detail? I need to watch it again to see how they figure out if their weapon rolled high or low based on the bar

[unreal oar]

What does pinning fire do ?

[errant palm]

Check my car out

[unreal oar]

Oh ok

[errant palm]

Really good stat rolls

[hazy holly]

looks like the only good thing is the rarity? i dont understand

[shrewd pendant]

See now that's an amazing boltgun, you can reroll the perks later but they're useful enough for now

[high fable]

What does Shredder pertain to on Chainaxes?

[errant palm]

Prob gonna reroll infested enemies to carapace

[unreal oar]

+17% power is what ? Damage ?

[stuck ridge]

Power is a universal stat buff.

[high fable]

I beleive so? If the same rules from Vermintide 2 translate a bit

[stuck ridge]

So you increase every stat by 17%.

Mind you, this can't increase over the maximum, and it also doesn't necessarily translate to everything being exactly 17% better, a lot of the stats interact very strangely.

For example, "Damage" is actually a lot of stats put together in a very context-specific manner.

[unreal oar]

I just want description for everything tbf

[stuck ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QlBkFN9RRw Don't expect an official one for a while, but here's a very good, very in-depth breakdown of the various stats.

It's a 30 minute video and that's the condensed version

(Computer Programming is intense for games like this lmao)

[rapid ermine]

whats the difference between 2 different types of chainswords?

[high fable]

Like the model?

[rapid ermine]

chainsword and heavy eviscrator

[high fable]

1 hand vs 2 hand I beleive

[rapid ermine]

So swing type?

[high fable]

Most likely, you can inspect it as well to see what kind of attacks it does

[rapid ermine]

tbh as someone who never played the rat games, inspecting weapon and it telling me that the light attack is "vanguard" tells me absofuckinglutely nothing

[stuck ridge]

yooooo disruption is back!!

[high fable]

Heres a good pinned picture for ya

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1043973471060901888/Weapon_Icons.png

Hope that helps

Doesnt explain it really but explains what it is good for

[stuck ridge]

It's because the way of conveying stats still needs work. There's, ah, a lot of stats.

[kindred beacon]

is there a way for me to make a private match so i can try to do penances?

[rapid ermine]

Its not even about the stats or numbers. Its about how some things are explained. "Yeah this weapon has ASDFGNADFG attack compared to this another weapons AFDSKNGFADH attack"

"ok thanks..."

[high fable]

Not until after release at some point

[polar sandal]

that is a very bad mobility roll, don't spend on this if you haven't already!

[drowsy zealot]

Hey so im trying to get the "on overwatch" achievement, any advice on how best to get this? I've been trying all day but it seems even getting clipped by a passing hound invalidates the challenge

[wet bloom]

Dont get clipped by a passing hound

👍

[rapid ermine]

"just dodge bro"

[wet bloom]

"just parry"

[patent sapphire]

to get the on overwatch penance you can't let anything do melee damage to you

hope this helps

[drowsy zealot]

I was more hoping if there was anything I can do to make it easier to avoid taking melee damage

[patent sapphire]

do you have the camo perk on?

[drowsy zealot]

I do, and sometimes it helps, but I still end up getting mobbed

[bitter gust]

for a bolt, the infested damage is unlucky

[patent sapphire]

basically camo + playing very passively and making your teammates carry you + have the power sword for if you do get mobbed

and hope

[drowsy zealot]

I will see about getting a powersword

Im currently using a chain axe, so hopefully the power sword is better for dealing with hordes

[patent sapphire]

well, the power sword is the best melee weapon for vet and chain axe is really only for doing a crapload of damage to a boss

and struggles in hordes

[elfin hill]

is this good

[robust willow]

the power sword is THE best melee weapon

and its exclusive for the "ranged" class

[errant palm]

I’m glad I dident get mobility roll, I play preacher so I only gonna use bolter for clutch/elites

[mellow cedar]

does the rating level on a curio matter?

[errant palm]

Gonna reroll to either armored or carapace dmg

Then it’s a real solid bolt gun

[austere epoch]

man i havent come across another MG XII lasgun since trust lvl 10ish. can you upgrade stats? or do you just get perks and whatnot.

[silent compass]

Does Benediction on Zealot stack, making a 22% reduction, or does it replace the current aura, making it just 15%

[high fable]

Just upgrades perks and power I believe atm. Shop rng is sometimes poop

[spice sigil]

So no espionage?

havent seen one yet

[honest crater]

is the last 3 twitch drops just the same skin?

[mellow cedar]

i don't get it lol. so would a curio that gives 10% toughness and +1 wound at level 50 be worse than one that does the same thing at level 80?

[heavy shuttle]

No sir.

[honest crater]

ty sah

[mellow cedar]

and do we know if item rating does anything?

[patent sapphire]

i assume lower rated curios can't roll combinations of the more expensive perks

[mellow cedar]

is it like vermintide

guess we gotta wait for an update

[patent sapphire]

supposedly there's going to be way more in game info about stats on launch

at least more info than bars on the items

[mellow cedar]

yeah

that's fine

[tribal dew]

You can already see some of that in the meatgrinder where you get DPS calculations and enemy types displayed, adding it to the UI in the inventory will be nice

[heavy shuttle]

Just make sure to not switch your weapons while in the meat grinder for most accurate testing. Been hearing alot of people complain about bugs in the math when they switch weapons while in meat grinder instead of leaving-coming back.

[boreal river]

There are only six mission types atm, right?

[hazy rose]

dis gud?

[heavy shuttle]

Theres enough to get the second tier helmet? They keep rotating maps in and out without notice. 🤔

[burnt pendant]

I think one mission type is still disabled. Hoping it'll come back at launch.

[patent sapphire]

espionage is still out i think

[polar sandal]

yeah

[boreal river]

I just want my bloody helmet.

[inner minnow]

Is it possible to finish 100% accuracy punishment for sharpshooter in some easy way? All I got myself to is to use shotgun, but it still is almost uncompletable due to non-registered shots from time to time

[heavy shuttle]

Have you tried it with revolver?

[inner minnow]

Even worse. It's harder to shoot someone if comparing to a shotgun

and very long reload

[heavy shuttle]

I just expended all the ammunition on the revolver very early on to run power sword the rest of the way.

[wet bloom]

I heard any class can get it

[lapis raven]

most missions have big hordes to push you to extract

[wet bloom]

so you go zelot with the flamer (for some reason flamer doesnt count to losing accuracy) and get it ezpz

[fiery wagon]

finally getting around playing ogryn after getting others to 30, what's the best level 5 talent?

[lapis raven]

don't worry about firing all your rounds until that end horde

tell your allies you're trying to do that penance and hope they help you

should be good

[inner minnow]

Well, the perk which gives you ammo in elite kill still works. Especially with 1 other sharpshooter in a team. I get all my ammo depleted in the beginning, and in the end I have almost full ammo again

[jade venture]

You might as well just empty out a revolver at the end of the level for that penance

[lapis raven]

don't use it up until the end horde

[cursive citrus]

just do a mission with an extraction, and stop before the shuttle and unload there

[lapis raven]

^

[cursive citrus]

aka NOT an assassination mission

[wet bloom]

assassination mission my beloved

[calm elk]

Oddly enough Assassination Mission is where I got mine lol

Just spammed on the boss during a stun and got it praise be

[strange cosmos]

Anyone got a good spot to do cliffhanger? Tried a few places on the raid mission in Chasm but horde isn't grouping up enough

[cursive citrus]

assassination misions are my least favorite

getting shot by an invincible boss is never fun

[wet bloom]

I like destroying the boss

[calm elk]

The bosses feel a little samey to me and don't have a lot of personality

[wet bloom]

Just enter melee

then he melee

[cursive citrus]

bosses dont care sometimes and just point blank plasma pistol you

[calm elk]

Facts

[jade venture]

I got mine in one of the assassination missions before dropping had a horde a level under me and underhand threw into the air for or

[wet bloom]

Not once have I seen that and I almost only run them

[calm elk]

I've seen it a few times

Sometimes ranged enemies don't care and shoot point blank, bosses included

[final depot]

friend of mine wants to get the 3rd helmet for his veteran, what gun is good for the 100% accuracy achievement? i thouyght plasma because low mag

let him empty his gun on hordes and then force him to melee until we leave

[cursive citrus]

plasma is bad, huge hitbox can get stuck on terrain so misses

[final depot]

but, if you hit only hordes it doesnt matter does it?

[heavy shuttle]

revolver. Some folks have been saying shotty

[wet bloom]

only time I had trouble with other ranged enemies were when they were shooting for friends behind me, ive had them stop mid shot to switch to melee once I was close enough

[final depot]

Gotcha

[calm elk]

They're supposed to stop and go into melee but sometimes they just don't

[final depot]

yeah

ik

[wet bloom]

someone should always stick right beside the boss so he doesnt switch over as he alway prioritzes melee

[final depot]

okay that was my plan to make him empty his gun and allow him to kill things with melee

[rose lily]

Does anyone have any tips for the 100% accuracy veteran penance

[austere epoch]

@rose lily Ive heard revolvers seem to be the go to.

[spice sigil]

revolver/plasma

Although I wonder if shotguns would be good, depends on whether each pellet counts

[rose lily]

OK thanks heresy is such a pain when I'm trying so hard to not whiff

[spice sigil]

Be careful though, elites give you ammo when killed

[whole nebula]

I think I've stopped trying tbh, I've had a good look at the cosmetic and it ain't worth it next to whats coming on release

[rose lily]

Ik it's just you need it for the 3rd stage helmet unlock

[austere epoch]

anyone tried for the mystery acquisitions? debating if i wanna chance a gamble

[whole nebula]

ah.... well I dind't know that lovely bit of info....

[heavy shuttle]

Ive always been disappointed.

[spice sigil]

I did and got nothing, then I was 100 off a god roll gun lol

[final depot]

yeah we made a plan

[austere epoch]

sounds like 2 reasons not to go for it

[rose lily]

Ik it's actually pain when I realised I was going to avoid doing it till I realised

[rigid wasp]

I know this isn’t gameplay help, but is there a Cadian outfit for veteran?

[austere epoch]

wait, is there already an established meta? if there are god rolls then there must be a meta

[rose lily]

Don't really like doing it makes me feel like I'm playing selfish when going for it lol

[heavy shuttle]

not yet. Some cosmetic stuff on vender that looks 'close' but nothing official yet

[spice sigil]

Hyperbole, it looked liked it fit the bill

[whole nebula]

vet meta is bolter/powersword

[spice sigil]

I think lasguns are better tbh

[polar sandal]

XII/powersword is a little more favored at high difficulty I think, but both are very good

[austere epoch]

i do not enjoy the bolter, been loving the hell out of my MG XII las

[whole nebula]

though it does have it's exceptions

[austere epoch]

and cahin axe 😛

[gray geyser]

you meming?

[austere epoch]

chain*

[polar sandal]

and the comp meta is 3 sharpshooters and an ogryn

[whole nebula]

here we go!

[heavy shuttle]

I think thats inverse. Bolters are favored in higher difficulties because of all the damn carapace armor swarm.

[north vine]

the new mission and map lvl3 with endless hordes is fucking BS

[polar sandal]

honestly, if we're talking meta, I'd probably have at least 2 sharpshooters on the team, one with bolter one with XII

[heavy shuttle]

That would be ideal yes.

[gray geyser]

what is ogryn meta?

[spice sigil]

Do purples ever show up in shop, Ive been seeing blues forever now

[austere epoch]

think i saw one but it was a las pistol, so meh

[robust willow]

what does punishment do (zealot level 10 skill)

[final depot]

Okay my friend isnt after the lvl 3 helmet, hes after the one with the gasmask from the trailer

[tiny socket]

Does anyone have the gas mask from the main menu for veteran?

[final depot]

has anyone encountered it?>

[heavy shuttle]

not yet

[stuck ridge]

Bolters and Plasmas are good, imo. Accatrans are amazing in the right hands at higher difficulties, but they aren't the easy mode they were at medium difficulties. Kantraels do good work, though IMO you want the one with slower firing and higher damage.

Autoguns, in general, are lacking, they have too little ammo. Shotguns are fun but again, limited by the ammo you can carry.

[heavy shuttle]

Plasmas are terrible 🤔

[polar sandal]

from the docket shop? they do not, but you would almost definitely not want to spend money on a purple anyway

[stuck ridge]

They deal big damage to bosses, pierce on standard shots, and deal much more pierce and damage on Overcharge, and can even penetrate standard cover.

They also explode on impact with a solid surface, much like a Bolter (though, unlike a bolter, not on an enemy). Their only limitation is Heat, and you have 3 methods of managing that.

[frosty star]

I have only seen one person with a 2nd tier helmet no 3rd tiers yet and it has the gasmask which is what I want

[quick veldt]

Still needs a slight buff. Bolter is still more useful. If I can’t one hit a mutant (last time I used it it didn’t one hit) with a charged shot that’s very disappointing.

Also, how’s plasma going to fair if we get a melta?

[stuck ridge]

I have 1-hit Mutants with a Charged Shot Headshot on Malice (not much experience on Heresy+ because every time I play the team, for some reason, disappears off into corners and all die on the first encounter), but I agree they should probably have a damage buff.

And Meltas are probably going to be very short range and not pierce, which would be in line with their lore purpose, but will probably benefit from much higher damage and penetrate armor (hopefully, they also penetrate Bulwark shields).

Additionally, the Charged Plasma Shot should stun Bulwarks for a lot longer than it does, considering it's kinda meant to counter them in lore.

[quick veldt]

Yeah, I definitely need to try it again.

[unborn pilot]

yay the desert place is back

[ocean flax]

where is the most reliable place to knock 20 off a ledge as psyker?

[old phoenix]

The fact that most people either cheese or cheat to complete penance challenges should tell fatshark that they need changing....

[rapid ermine]

the furnace place might work quite nicely

[unborn pilot]

also. have they talked about decreasing the global condition duration? a week of endless hordes is... unfun

[rapid ermine]

As a newb playing at difficulty 1 and 2, endless horde is fun

[stuck ridge]

While I agree with this sentiment, I do generally think that the issues they are focusing on right now (IIRC, the Disconnect and Empty Ticket error) are higher priority haha.

[ocean flax]

i like endless horde, but i would like to see other options too. i'm sure they'll be adding some. vermintide had a lot of special conditions you could run

[tiny socket]

@paper coral Is the veteran gas mask from the menu is actually obtainable right now? Or is it available on release?

[unborn pilot]

it's fine. but i'd rather it change at least every day or two

[leaden venture]

I bought the Imperial edition where would the extra stuff I get be at

[heavy shuttle]

Curious, had anyone actually done the 100% accuracy with shotgun? Does it count the pellets?

[rapid ermine]

If endless horde gives bonus xp/moneyz, does the counter of it give reduced rewards?

[tiny socket]

We get it on release

[heavy shuttle]

on full release. Its in the pins

[stuck ridge]

Not sure. I just got the 1st On Target Helmet and found out there's a chain there

[bright relic]

What kind of Curios should Veterans use?

[leaden venture]

Thank you <#

[leaden venture]

Thank you ❤️

[stuck ridge]

I, personally, like curios that give extra stamina and wounds, they are very, very useful.

As for perks, damage to specialists is always good

[bright relic]

Thx

[dire ridge]

close enough

[austere epoch]

meh i didnt spend time on making a face only to cover it with a helmet

[rigid wasp]

I want krieg mask

[rapid ermine]

aint that pretty much herecy?

[dire ridge]

guys does anyone have the T3 helmet? maybe there's a t4 too

[rigid wasp]

Lemme be a death Korps

[final depot]

no

illegal

[austere rivet]

how the hell do people get the "make every shot count" penance?

[dire ridge]

shotgun + camp near the extraction site

[dreamy steeple]

Question, more to do with lore than anything.
Those campaign-bolts in the head space Marines get. Do Guardsmen also get them, or are their lifespans too short to justify it?

[final depot]

get a shotgun or a revolver, empty the fucker into a crowd, go melee

[dreamy steeple]

Beasts of nurgle are also great, shoot their weakpoint 4 times.

[austere rivet]

cant even get a Heresy level complete...

[tired crown]

Don't shoot the entire mission until the "escape" phase at the end or else you'll get ammo from killing elites.

[final depot]

simple; dont kill elites

[vale walrus]

Worth gambling on buying Sir Melks mysterium for 200 or just keep saving?

[final depot]

just save it up tbh

[dire ridge]

boyz any tips for winning 100 games without hating the game?

[unreal oar]

Mystery is a scam

[austere rivet]

How do i unlock this?

[lapis raven]

play the game and over time you'll get 100 game wins?

[dire ridge]

where'd ufind that

[austere rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pdb1yhpDNM&t=403s

[bright spoke]

Is there any way to acquire specific weapon types other than "Get lucky"?
I unlocked a new Force Staff like 3 levels ago and I have yet to have it drop or show up in the armory.

[bronze goblet]

Pretty much get lucky

[bright spoke]

Delightful.

[whole nebula]

tips for every shot?

[austere rivet]

i think its going to be one of the last "Throgh the mud" Penances, but not sure

[dire ridge]

get a shotgun, shoot into the hordes as much as you can and at the end camp near the extraction zone until you're out of bullets

[dire ridge]

maybe, that's the only one i'm missing... winning 50 more games on higher difficulties will take a lot of time and winning 50 games on low difficulties is super boring x)

[unreal oar]

Marked for death penance is a pain in the ass for me omg

[uncut coyote]

I've been testing this effect (Terrifying Barrage) and it honestly feels quite useless. It seems it only suppresses ranged enemies, which are typically well at range, while doing nothing to the enemies at close range trying to melee you. Am I missing something here?

[daring briar]

They really need to rework some penances

[unreal oar]

If only the vet level 30 feat counterfire worked as intended

[rapid ermine]

Can you even suppress close range enemies? Dont they just swap to melee and try to bonk you instead of diving for cover?

[austere rivet]

do it works if only hits a few pellets?

[uncut coyote]

At very close range they'll swap to melee but there is a gap where they can get hit by this effect and still use ranged weapons.

[dire ridge]

yup, not sure if you can hit teammates and armors tho

[whole nebula]

I honestly think their going to just change the description for counterfire to mention gunner don't refresh it, it'd be v, v strong otherwise

[unreal oar]

I think as long you get an hit marker when shooting, your pretty much good

[unreal oar]

150 gunners is strong against us, so i don't see the problem lmao

[dire ridge]

just make it only refresh on headshots

[whole nebula]

I ain't saying it'd be my solution, just I think that's how they#re gonna do it

[whole nebula]

that could be good

[unreal oar]

And why would they change it ? The feat works fine in the meat grinder

[dire ridge]

headshots are very underutilized, that's like the most skillful thing you can do with a gun and there's no traits or rewards for it

and for like half the enemies shooting legs does more damage

[final depot]

Vault Spireside, which one is that?

[unreal oar]

Headshot are underutilize because center mass is better overall, just like irl. Still you do more damage with them

Its better to hit center mass than missing a headshot

[feral gust]

I am converted from the chainsword to the chainaxe.
At lvl3 even basic poxwalkers take two hits.

• when someone goes down - the AI triggers a swarm (plus 2-3 specials poxflamer, bullwark, mauler, burster)
• you can dance around as much as you want - but you need to put them down quick

[little zinc]

got that new head piece 🙂

[rigid wasp]

Does the ogryn have any upper body cosmetic that's not a shirt?

[pale musk]

so guys lvl 4 and 5 have instant hordes on it now? or is that just a bug

[fathom kite]

is espionage live?

[burnt pendant]

"Executor. +2% on repeated Weak Spot Hit" +2% of what?

[dire ridge]

is that tier 2?

[little zinc]

yessir

[dire ridge]

i wonder if tier 4 exists

[pale musk]

why does it make you look like a gimp tho

[little zinc]

T3

[little zinc]

no clue i wish i had my hair tbh

[pale musk]

t3 is even more gimp lmao

[burnt pendant]

So looks like disruption is online again, yes? I certainly got an achievement for that today

[tired crown]

Yeah but what's your safe word?

Congrats ^ ^

[austere epoch]

slaanesh influence detected

[prime sierra]

can someone help me when i start the game and go into the caracter creator it just freeze and then crashes on me i know this may not be the right place but i cant get my game to wotk i have tried to vvalidate my game in steam and i have tried to restart it multiple times

[tired crown]

Just need those shoulder pads with candles on them for the hot wax.

[little zinc]

safe word is "faster"

[unreal aurora]

what are the list of mission types? trying to rack my brain on which one im missing since im 6/7

[wet bloom]

The safe word is police brutality

[inner flax]

will i not see espionage at all currently? confused

[stuck ridge]

Probably either Disruption, which is available today, or Espionage, which is not in the rotation right now.

[wet bloom]

Im waiting on espionage too, ping me if you see it

[tired crown]

It's that dust map from day 1 for disruption, such a good map.

[pale musk]

is investigation up?

[inner flax]

is that what that timer is in the top left?

[hazy holly]

how to get gift from the emperor? is it random?

[stuck ridge]

Servicing the Emperor, of cour-- blam

[pale musk]

commisar this one over here

[tired crown]

Hey, the emperor requires 1000 psykers a day to service him.

[bright relic]

How often do Espionage Missions appear?

[tired crown]

Judging by my suicidal team comps today, we're already halfway there.

[tired crown]

I've not seen one yet, I don't think they're out.

[pale musk]

incompetence does not certifie as a sacrifice

[stuck ridge]

They were in rotation for a few days earlier this week, the rotation has changed every day, though.

[tired crown]

Oh were they? Cool, good to know.

[daring briar]

I haven't seen em since I started playing

[stuck ridge]

So I'm assuming either tomorrow or the next day. Maybe

[bright relic]

I have yet to see a single one, so I guess I have to wait.

[stuck ridge]

There was a time on, I think, Tuesday? Where they were basically taking up all of the missions lmao.

I love how, in the Imperium of Man, it's a selling point for Barbers to be able to cut ears

[bright relic]

And just MAKE Scars

[stuck ridge]

Scarring? Ay, maet, I can do that, cost ya extra tho

[bright relic]

Also has anyone else experienced random crashes during missions? I have yet to figure out the source of the issue.

[torpid grotto]

Turn off anti-aliasing and mess with some of the video settings (prioritizing performance).

[stuck ridge]

I think my favorite class is Psyker right now. Nothing against the other classes, but I think the Psyker loop is pretty fun.

[stuck ridge]

IIRC there's a Beta Branch Build (through Steam) that is performing additional logging on this issue, so if you're having trouble you might try enabling that to help them fix it

[bright relic]

Oddly enough, probably my least favorite. I wanna like them, but that stupid Peril keeps bugging me.

[stuck ridge]

The only problem I have with Peril is that the key to quell Peril is R.

The key to quell Plasma Heat, without Reloading, is M3 (or just standard attack at full heat). And the two confuse me all the time.

[proper coral]

Do the missions types rotate with the warzone conditions?

[tough cove]

Do we know if they'll ever fix strike team merging?

So many times I've wanted to use it already

I figure that should be fixed before launched no?

[stuck ridge]

I mean, will they ever? Almost definitely. When? I dunno.

[bright relic]

You know if Nvidia Reflex Low Latency might have anything to do with crashes?

[stuck ridge]

I have heard Nvidia cards have been having much more problems with crashing. I haven't had many crashes at all, and I'm using an RX 570, so I wouldn't know for certain.

[junior moat]

So contracts not completing properly, is that a known issue? I've gotten the pop-up saying that I've completed the kill dregs contract but when I check, it's still incomplete

[pliant willow]

When do I unlock bolt gun?

[stuck ridge]

Yes this has been reported a few times. Doing it again should resolve it as, iirc, most of the issues have just been individual enemies not counting for some reason.

[dim wind]

What Does +2 Rending (Armored Enemies) Mean?

[junior moat]

Okay

[bright relic]

More damage towards Armored Targets?

[dim wind]

Yeah That Sounds Plausable.

[stuck ridge]

IIRC, Rending is a stack that reduces Armor for your attacks temporarily. There is also Brittle, which reduces Armor on an enemy for all allied attacks temporarily

[elder spire]

rending basically decreases enemy's armor protection values

[dim wind]

Yeah Okay, Thanks Guys.

[raw plover]

hey guys, got 2 questions:

• anyone's gotten a 500+ rated item yet? Is 500 the absolute max?

• what does rating do on Curious'?

🤔

[bright relic]

On Curious?

[subtle urchin]

whats the most efficient way to increase my power level to max? at level 30 seeing lvl 380ish stuff

[spice sigil]

Any group of chads wanna help me get 100% acc penance. I struggle with these endless hordes.

[stuck ridge]

500 is not the max, screencaps have been posted of higher.

Rating is a measure of Perk Value, Blessing, and Stats. It's a combined metric.

[whole nebula]

just did make every shot perfectly on assassination with 1 shell left after he died and no fucking enemy spawns 🙂

[spice sigil]

Oh my

[dire ridge]

yee assassination is a big no no

[whole nebula]

it is now lmao

[proper smelt]

Depends on class

[grave stump]

Has anybody else had a bug wherein 1 of their weeklies cannot be completed or reset at all?

[stuck ridge]

Someone reported something like that last night.

[grave stump]

😦

[raw plover]

how do people get there? i bought my Stubber at 405 as a blue and it went up to 475. I barely get anything above 400 in the store. is it just extremely low chance or am i missing something?

[bright relic]

Have you checked that Contract guy for Purple weapons?

Other than that, try to upgrade your Blue to Purple.

[unreal aurora]

are all your items above 400? you need to raise your average gear score before you start to see higher items, but I think blues cap out at 405 in the store cause its the highest ive seen

[proper smelt]

I think 400 is the cap for grays anyway

[raw plover]

maybe my trinkets arent high enough rating. both my guns are 471 rated legendaries

but i only see greens at like 360 rating unfortunately

[azure lily]

do you need one high lvl curio or all 3 of them

[raw plover]

yeah, havent seen anything higher at the weapons vendor

[cerulean crown]

...lol

lmao

Thanks Emprah

+20% damage against enemies immune to this weapon is just perfect

[cerulean crown]

I've got a 411 from the store, but I don't think it goes meaningfully* higher than that

[fathom crag]

For the Last Bullet in the Chamber achievement, is it possible to do with the BOLTER?

Or does the Pierce count against the accuracy?
Can you chainsword people in the meantime, or is it strictly no melee?

[raw plover]

i think only 1. but i have a 135 rated Curio and items (blue and green) dont show above 410 anyways

so what do i know

[elfin hill]

i got 416 in shop

[raw plover]

might be extremely low chance

[dire ridge]

429 blue gun is my record

[stuck ridge]

Melee doesn't count towards the not shooting

[raw plover]

what does that equate to in legendary. can you roll it 500+?

[azure lily]

my 420 blue can roll 495 with legendary upgrade so yes

[minor flower]

Is a way to see which mission I have completed on a specific difficulty?

[raw plover]

no, JUST remember it

🙂

[minor flower]

[daring briar]

When can we expect private lobbies? Doing penances with randoms it's such a pain. Good lord.

[grave ocean]

First purple

[raw plover]

nice profile picture

[heavy shuttle]

Devs said they were working on it. No release date yet.

[craggy bluff]

hey guys is there any way endless horde condition will finally change, because i really hate it on diff 4 maps when they are not supposed to have it

[coral badger]

bro how does your game look like that 💀

[hollow birch]

How do i get armor or when

[bitter halo]

Question: Is the ilvl of gear you find based on your trust level, or your item level?

[spring creek]

Is there any consensus to the most effective melee weapon for zealot on difficulties 4 and 5? Is it basically just lacerate knife build. Hammer is meh and Evi animation lock seems to get you killed on 5 hordes

[grave ocean]

I'm running on a toaster

[craggy bluff]

i guess he has fsr on ultra performance

[grave ocean]

Yes

[jagged phoenix]

Where can we find an explanation of what everything does like defences on a weapon, etc

[jagged vigil]

yay, my first purple gun, not sure if I should use it though

[hollow birch]

So how do you get armor?

[raw plover]

you cant 🙂

[tired crown]

Congrats @grave ocean

[jagged phoenix]

Quality gameplay

[pliant willow]

Veteran. I am lvl 25 but still bo bolt gun

[grave ocean]

Woo

[heavy shuttle]

Recons are fun, pretty decent.

[stuck ridge]

Right now, there's no in-game explanation.

Why? Well, one reason is there are a LOT of stats. Here's a condensed video discussing them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QlBkFN9RRw

[heavy shuttle]

Penances.

[jagged vigil]

yes, but I'm psyker

[hollow birch]

Thank you for responding

[south vessel]

did enemies within enemies without get fixed?

[hollow birch]

Raare mensen hier man

[heavy shuttle]

Then that'll be a huge ammo drain. 🙃

[quasi pelican]

So is Espionage in the game right now? It's the only mission type I have left to complete before I get the penance for doing all of them

[stuck ridge]

@raw plover Link for you as well.

[dire ridge]

i upgraded it to 499

[peak crag]

Is there any reason to do Endless Hordes if they just give the same completion rewards as a normal?

[dire ridge]

they give more exp and gold

[peak crag]

ah ok ty

[stuck ridge]

They don't! They give better rewards, it's under the "Mission Condition" modifier IIRC. The Secondary Mission modifier shares a similar name, so it can be a bit confusing haha.

[jagged vigil]

are "less hordes" missions gone?

[heavy shuttle]

still around

[azure lily]

havent seen any since the patch

[raw plover]

They just dont show up for you coz you are just simply too skilled and overgeared for them

[craggy bluff]

yeah its always endless horde

[stuck ridge]

Conditions and Similar change periodically. I'm not certain if Fewer Hordes has been removed or just isn't rotating in as much, but I do know that Ventilation Purge and Power Disruption aren't in the rotation right now.

I suspect that the frequency of Endless Hordes is to try and ensure stress testing, especially since the focus right now seems to be on the Crashes and Disconnects issue.

[raw plover]

so close lad

[snow girder]

any advices with wich feats, what map, with whom this could be done, i dont really have high tier friends playing :I

[craggy bluff]

depends which weapon u play

[little zinc]

play ranged and in the very back dont even get close to melee mobs

[little zinc]

you need to play super passive

[craggy bluff]

or u can just alt F4 before end of mission and reconnect to game, it resets your dmg taken, simple

[snow girder]

should i take that camo feat?

[random wadi]

does this seem good?

[icy hawk]

and be kinda paranoid cause enemies be spawning from everywhere while you walking

[heavy shuttle]

fixed, I heard

[heavy shuttle]

It can help, yes.

[craggy bluff]

rly? Then i am glad i am already done with this

[snow girder]

also does that taking dmg mean even toughness dmg?

[warm snow]

you should take it regardless tbh

[raw plover]

yep , let it rip

[little zinc]

you just cant get melee'd once

[warm snow]

no you just cant take dmg from melee

[snow girder]

ok

[warm snow]

which chips your health anyway

[dreamy skiff]

So what exactly are the mechanics behind peril overload? Because sometimes I have a bit of time I can usey ability with, and sometimes I just instantly detonate

[stuck ridge]

That one has been frustrating me haha, taunting me even (I managed to fill those conditions.... with Psyker ).

My current concept for how you could accomplish it is:
1.) Camo Expert Feat (basically a necessity)
2.) A map with lots of walls to put your back against
3.) Either a rapid fire horde-clearer like the Accatran, or something that deals solid damage and fires pretty quickly like the Kantrael (I don't remember which Mk number, but you want the one that doesn't slam fire).

The Camo Expert Feat is really good, even without the constraints of this mission haha.

Also, you can't take melee damage at all. Unfortunately, Melee always applies a portion of damage to your Health as Chip Damage.

[warm snow]

yeah camo is insane

it's especially good on higher difficulties

can literally stand still for a second and as long as you got someone near you you can watch as enemies just swap targets lol

[snow girder]

well il usually run with that dodge thingy

[stuck ridge]

You want a lot of walls to prevent the issue I always have of enemies spawning behind you as soon as you turn around.

[warm snow]

the toughness dmg reduction one might be a good contender if counterfire is fixed

[stuck ridge]

Counterfire would be so good if it worked

[snow girder]

but anway thanks for tips... ill just try it out 😄

[warm snow]

it's still good tbh

marking all the shooters is nice +headshot dmg

[heavy shuttle]

Ive found that on diff 4+ camo doesnt work enough for the sheer number of enemies running in from multiple angles.

[warm snow]

I dunno I ran endless horde heresy and it worked fine there

[latent wadi]

What does this mission icon mean? I havent noticed it before

[storm laurel]

just some background detail

[stuck ridge]

Dodging Melee strikes with a ranged weapon is borderline impossible. The game is designed so that you aren't supposed to be able to do it anyway, which translates to, IIRC, increasing the hit range of a melee attack if the target tries to dodge away.

In the Psykhanium Tutorial, Sefoni warns you that you can't dodge melee attacks while you have a ranged weapon equipped.

[hollow slate]

What are the best modifiers for an eviscerator?

[warm snow]

so that's why all the crackheads have the reach of a spear

[hollow slate]

I have 175% cleave on multi hit for eviscerator but wondering what else would work well

[storm laurel]

you can

just smaller timing

because ranged tends to have smaller dodges

[stuck ridge]

Yeah, hence borderline impossible lol.

I have done it, but it's by no means reliable especially against a horde.

[storm laurel]

with a las pistol or autopistol you can dodge easy tho

got huge dodges

[stuck ridge]

Hmm, I didn't realize pistols buffed your dodge range, but neat! Makes sense

[snow girder]

so i should ditch my plasmagun :D, hmm kinda need to hunt new weapon then. 😄

[storm laurel]

honestly insane the range you have on the pistol dodges

[warm snow]

plasma is rather underwhelming atm

[storm laurel]

paired with slide dodges you can be wherever you want in a skirmish

[weak venture]

heresy is impossible with randos

[twin sinew]

did it work?

[warm snow]

I recommend a bolter vs elites and either an accatran or kantrael vs everything else

[warm snow]

it's a hit or miss but it's not impossible lol

i've done more than a few heresy missions with randos

I dunno about damnation though since no one on eu at least matchmakes for it lol

[stuck ridge]

Definitely don't ditch plasma. People treat it as underwhelming, but I really love it.

• All shots pierce
• All shots explode on contact with a Surface (ie, hard obstacle)
  ++ Overcharged Shots deal massive damage
  ++ Overcharged Shots penetrate light Cover
  ++ Overcharged Shots get unlimited Pierce

On Malice, kills Crushers in ~2 hits

[weak venture]

Every time I've tried everyone dies within 2 minutes

[stuck ridge]

But it's not the best for this mission

[warm snow]

and i'll prolly just wait for my friends to reach 30 before farming it

[warm snow]

I mean compared to other options it is kinda underwhelming

a bolter can shred multiple elites much faster

I dont want it nerfed tho

[snow girder]

i oneshot crushers in tier 4 😛

[warm snow]

rather I want plasma buff

[storm laurel]

ok but slow to charge for high damage, huge heat build which can only be vented by taking chip damage to health, and like 9 second reload

[warm snow]

since both bolter and plasma are rather crap for dealing with chaff

[stuck ridge]

I mean, the only comparable weapon is the Bolter, but the Bolter tends to have much lower ammunition.

Plasma definitely needs a buff, but it's a solid and workable weapon.

[storm laurel]

bolter is amazing at clearing hordes

[warm snow]

eh you will run out of ammo very quickly if you use it for that

[snow girder]

hmm what if i kill myself at the start of the map. with plasma gun... and let the other 3 complete run?

[warm snow]

a lasgun does the job while also having a crazy good ammo economy

[stuck ridge]

Heat can be vented via:

• Standard Shots (deals Chip Damage, reduces heat by 20%)
• Venting (less chip damage, reduces heat quickly)
• Reloading (not available on low ammo, but removes heat entirely and deals no damage)

[storm laurel]

yeah it's not great use of it but it can do it well

[slate inlet]

Ogryn dodge good with ripper gun

[heavy shuttle]

Plus its great for ranged scab clear. Best case, if I run a bolter, buddy runs a MK12. Or vice versa

[whole nebula]

it did not

[twin sinew]

rip, thanks for the response though

[storm laurel]

yeah your options are take chip damage or watch this dude manhandle this giant gun for 2 years

[unreal aurora]

I got disconnected during an end of a run, reconnected right before they hopped on the Valk and got it. Hard to do legitimately I think cause enemies will quite literally spawn 2m behind you.

[storm laurel]

the reload alone makes the plasma gun iffy

[snow girder]

ive run plasma for like 4 days now... and nothing else 😄

[stuck ridge]

The Plasma should get a damage buff and, IMO, charged shots should ignore Bulwark Shields.

But it's by no means unworkable. It's a pretty solid weapon choice on balance. I wouldn't even call it Iffy. I'd put it at B-tier with the caveat that, being a high level vet exclusive weapon, it should be buffed up to A-tier at least.

Like, the only ranged weapons I think really qualify for C and Lower Tier are the Autoguns and the Slam-Fire Kantrael.

[shut sphinx]

Worth?

or should I wait for level 30 to really buy stuff?

[storm laurel]

if it didn't do chip damage on venting it would be a bit better

[heavy shuttle]

Nah, Id hold off.

[storm laurel]

me making myself vulnerable should be enough of a trade off

[shut sphinx]

Alright thanks

[storm laurel]

don't need to throw in some more goofy chip damage

[shut sphinx]

I feel liek I should wait till 30 on my classes to actually buy from Requisatorium

[stuck ridge]

Yeah, or, at least, the M3 Vent option. I can see the Standard Shot Vent dealing Chip Damage as an acceptable trade-off for a pretty fast 20% reduction.

[shut sphinx]

Since it's limited

[gleaming cobalt]

Does anyone know where i can find info on Mission: Excise Vault Spireside-13?

[storm laurel]

yeah for the shot I can get that

[heavy shuttle]

I wish I had... Points are hard to get.

[storm laurel]

but for the proper vent no

[stuck ridge]

Don't be like me and accidentally buy a Vraks Headhunter

God, that weapon desperately needs a buff. Like, much higher weakpoint damage or something.

(I was trying to buy a Curio because decent Curios weren't showing up in the regular shop and I rather needed a second Curio)

[heavy shuttle]

Autoguns in general are very underwhelming

[rapid ermine]

Is this actually usable or am i just delusional?

[warm snow]

also what feat do most vets use till counterfire is fixed?

[heavy shuttle]

top one.

[warm snow]

I feel like the anti ogryn one is better than sustained for non bolters

unless that's also not working

[heavy shuttle]

situational, better to get that insta reload and toughness on demand

[austere rivet]

anyone knows the max power level for gear?

[blissful python]

Is there any way to know which missions I've completed on Malice or do I just need to go off memory / yolo it?

[tired crown]

Wait, what's wrong with counterfire?

[normal tendon]

I wouldn’t, the exp bonus alone makes it very meh and a wasted slot.

[warm snow]

it doesnt refresh on shooter kills

works fine on elites like the others

[tired crown]

Ohh, yeah. That sucks

[stuck ridge]

I think a Weakspot Damage Buff and Recoil Reduction would be very good for the Headhunter series, and the Infantry Autoguns should have a lot more ammo and penetration.

Headhunters feel like they're supposed to be a high skill, high reward weapon, but they don't reward good aim nearly enough to offset how much they punish bad aim. Plus, it fits as far as the physics go, what with shells bouncing around inside the target's body and armor.

[tired crown]

I still use it solely to highlight them but refreshing on scab kill would be great

[hollow slate]

Think its worth my precious space bucks?

[warm snow]

also now that I remember I think the weakspot dmg doesn't work as well

[hollow slate]

not a fan of the thrust but decimator is dope

[warm snow]

on counterfire

[stuck ridge]

Refresh functioning isn't working properly, it doesn't seem to be counting Scab Kills for the Achievement, and while the shooter highlighting is nice, it's not a 30th level Feat.

[native escarp]

is there a looking for group on this server? I need a couple bros to help me get cliffhanger penance

[warm snow]

only thing they fixed in this patch is that shooters are now consistently marked

[hollow slate]

yup checkout #vox-lfg-nasa

[tired crown]

I'll use the reload + toughness perk if I'm rocking bolter, but @heavy shuttle convinced me to give the XII another shot and it's fantastic.

[heavy shuttle]

Power level is a bit low for an orange but otherwise... ive seen combat axes fuck up some shit.

[midnight aspen]

What would be recommended as far as the staves go? I feel like voidstrike seems to be the strongest so far

[stuck ridge]

Stacks Power Pretty well, it has good stats, too. You could always buy it and swap the Blessings and Perks out later when that becomes available.

[tired crown]

Lightning is so good for crowd control, you can lockdown big groups of shooters as you approach them

[spice sigil]

Covering fire feat worth it? Im debating switching from bio optics

[hollow slate]

welp i backed out of the shop then looked again and its gone lolo

[tired crown]

But lightning lacks good horde clearing, so if you have a team that reliably clears hordes lightning is great. It stuns all specials and even bursters mid air

[austere rivet]

how do i rise the max power level past level 30?

[hollow slate]

limited time indeed. They seem to reset constantly for me

[heavy shuttle]

Bio optics is good for a multi vet team. Covering fire is meh.

[hollow slate]

Havent seen an orange eviscerator yet

[tired crown]

Void strike does good damage to everything except carapace and excels at clearing hordes, plus you can snipe enemies behind cover since it explodes nearby targets instead of only direct hits. But it's crowd control isn't as good as lightning

[honest ice]

should i go wrath or momentum for eviscerator

[stuck ridge]

Didn't realize it stunned all specials lmao. That's brilliant.

I've also heard good things about the Flame Staff. DoT ignores Armor Checks and it also hits a big area, but IIRC it builds Peril quickly.

[agile nexus]

What couns as scab and dregs for the contracts?

[tired crown]

Yeah the flame staff is a lot of fun, it CCs everything you hit (I think) but has zero long range potential.

[midnight aspen]

Flame staff is literally like staring into the sun

[tired crown]

It's hard to find a group where you can put the flame staff to good use.

My maximum try hard is a force sword that deflects ranged attacks and the lightning staff so I can Jedi my way up to groups of shooters then sith them into submission.

[midnight aspen]

Yeah I noticed psyker in general is very built around not being able to be fully utilized in quickplay

[honest ice]

we need to give our fire weapons the sheer fps killing power of the deathwing flamers

[stuck ridge]

Scabs are the Traitor Guardsmen. They wear Flak and Carapace, and typically have both Ranged and Melee variants.

Dregs are the Yellow Cultisty dudes. They wear Yellow cloth and are usually Ranged Enemies unless you get close. I don't think the Shirtless Ones are Dregs, I think they count as Maniacs.

[tired crown]

Hopefully that helps, I know psyker is most dependent on decent teammates but also absurdly strong

[agile nexus]

thanks

[earnest pivot]

what curios are u guys using on psyker? not really sure what i should aim for

[chrome crescent]

Need little help guys is the low damage big deal? Other stats are amazing.

[granite rose]

given i mostly pug it i've gone stamina and resistances - gonna get 1 shot from behind sometimes .... @earnest pivot

[sharp skiff]

Actually you want to be buying a 350 grey then upgrading it for maximum effect.

[worldly flame]

do i get full rewards if i join mid-game?

[heavy shuttle]

With the right perks and trait rolls I agree, until we can get access to full crafting station

Edit: Which I think is a really cool idea. From garbage to god smasher

[sharp skiff]

Basically, For The Emperor !!!

[heavy shuttle]

As it stands, theres just too much RNG jesus to justify the resource grind

[dusk hemlock]

cliffhanger and out with a bang too hard i cant find any team help me

[heavy shuttle]

Discord has LFG channel with voice coms you can get some folks to help.

[hollow slate]

Great for CC on large hordes but yea the damage being that low sucks

[hollow slate]

If you use the right traites you will be essentially impossible to kill as the bleeding from bloodletter with the bloodletting skill is amazing

Use:

Feats:
Faith Restored, Bloodletting, Benediction, Holy Revenant, Rising Convitoins and Incovation of death

on crit against bleeding enemies you get 97% toughness damage reduction

just have to crit a bleeding enemy and only specials can really hurt you and not much at that

[supple prairie]

Having an Issue where my game randomly crashes, any advice?

[chrome crescent]

Will try that, thanks

[hollow slate]

I am still trying to get an eviscerator with bloodletting for this exact build

[plush galleon]

does consecrating improve weapon stats

or does it just add traits (it makes the weapon's rating go up)

[spiral goblet]

This.

[sharp skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z50j5p/base_rating_what_is_it_where_is_it_and_why_does/ this is a good read to better understand

[minor flower]

Keep getting free masterwork curios

[plush galleon]

right now i'm trying to compare two power swords. On the one hand, this new one has some big damage and has higher stats in every way compared to my other one, except in cleave damage
i use the power sword primarily for cleaving through huge groups of enemies in melee

[tame turtle]

any way to track this?

[plush galleon]

i think the one on the left is just better

but i've been using the one on the right

[sharp skiff]

Neither again you want a 350 grey with what you want then you upgrade it.

[royal rock]

when will this be unlocked ?

[plush galleon]

the one on the left was a grey, i bought it and decided to roll the traits on it

[sharp skiff]

then keep the left

[unborn pilot]

350 is the cap for grey?

[plush galleon]

slaughterer and +10% dmg on unarmored enemies and more cleave targets
or big stats, +8% damage on elites, and supercharge

[tame turtle]

soon

[plush galleon]

™️

[potent epoch]

Is Thunder hammer still broken in terms of upgrading it?

[potent epoch]

Yes, still bugged.

[covert thistle]

Do vets just have only max 3 health bars or can you get another one?

[heavy shuttle]

You can have more with +wound stats

[covert thistle]

Are there curios for that?

[heavy shuttle]

si

[covert thistle]

Ta, nice

[raven meadow]

quick question, have the dev say any plans on share inventory like verm or is having another character is basically a fresh account?

[coral tide]

so is there a way to spot the weak points on enemies or do i just have to press f and spray and pray till i get lucky?

[heavy shuttle]

Metal grinder helps to test where the weak points are in each enemy and where you have to aim.

Generally... aim for the head. (Except maulers and crushers.)

[coral tide]

wtf

do hordes not count?

[rapid ermine]

are the bosses like beast of nurgle ever coming to the meat grinder?

[boreal quarry]

Smells of heresy

[coral tide]

they must not count for it or i guess poxwalkers dont have weak points

[smoky sierra]

some people interested in bowling penance for ogryn ?

[spiral kindle]

They have to be marked, highlighted from your ability

[boreal quarry]

Probably on release, or the next few days. Noone knows for sure unfortunately

[craggy bluff]

guys do know whats best to complete this? I read that you can do it with zealot and flamer, but i guess they already fixed that

[clear lynx]

they fixed the dreg gunners being called scab gunners but now theres 7/8 dregs for the penance ;-;

[coral tide]

ahhhh. if the penance had said that i would not have been struggling with it like i have been. thanks

[raven basin]

Having the same problem

[boreal quarry]

It's the 007 dreg on espionage lol

Suppression is the act of firing a weapon at enemies and making them run to cover

[azure cove]

I'm at 6/7 and I have no idea what my vet hasn't done yet. I'm thinking it might be disruption but I don't know.

[coral tide]

whats the color for a weakpoint hit? orange wasnt it

[open cargo]

I'm kinda annoyed by the slow progression weapon wise. I'm lvl 25 Zealot and have purple weapons that I had to upgrade from blue by grinding crafting materials since they don't seem to spawn in the shop. You can buy some at Sire Melk's I've seen but is also super slow since it's a different currency based on weekly challenges.

[storm laurel]

yeah

[boreal quarry]

Not sure if enemies have same loss of movement that we do if suppressed

[polar sandal]

you should try not to spend crafting materials on weapons before you're at level cap

[clear lynx]

the 7th mission type hasnt been released yet

[azure cove]

Ah.

[polar sandal]

weapon prog really does not matter much while you're leveling

[slow fog]

I think part of it is they're trying to set the game to have long term replayability

[coral tide]

so if the weak point hit color is orange, then the mauler weak point is their head

[slow fog]

It is technically, but they also have a different, heavier type of armour there

[polar sandal]

the mauler's head is technically their weak point, but it's much heavier armoured

[coral tide]

ye

[open cargo]

True, but I also wanna progress difficulty wise. Kinda sucks with weapons that don't do enough damage.

[slow fog]

Alright just logging in, pray I can replace my evisc I have had for the last 8 levels for me

[coral tide]

but i just have to hit 4 targets in the weak point not kill them for this penance

[polar sandal]

upgrading a weapon at level 25 isn't really going to make the difference between being able to run malice and heresy, tbh. you should save your mats

[spiral trail]

how in the hell do you do malice or higher with no melee damage taken

[slow fog]

Oh that one? I went for a Crusher

Literally just pop pop pop pop done

[boreal quarry]

Sounds like half a job, soldier

[coral tide]

it can be 4 on the same target?

[slow fog]

Marked for Death? Yeah

[storm laurel]

many attempts

[slow fog]

At least I'm pretty sure

[rigid wasp]

be an absolutely paranoid rat

[slow fog]

I'm like 99% sure thats how I got it

[coral tide]

fuck this penance needs a rewrite lol

[spiral trail]

its a damn horde game. its not like behind is clear either

[storm laurel]

true

[coral tide]

wallhug like a mofo

also. dont try it with a pug

[storm laurel]

try and grab a knife with high mobility and stam and get curios with stam

[boreal quarry]

They can come out of vents above and doors in walls lol

[slow fog]

Goddamit vendor servitor, where are the eviscirators

[sage glacier]

is there a guide on dealing with ragers in melee anywhere? the attack pattern, maybe? it's a bit rough

[mossy frost]

Not just that, but put on guard duty so a bomber or barrel doesn’t interfere

[vital violet]

Comrades what this 7th mission type? And why i never seen one..... Does it appears after some level?

[iron zodiac]

where do dregs normaly spawn?

[bitter summit]

what exactly does Cleave do? Allow me to cleave through more targets or something?

[little zinc]

i couldnt

[iron zodiac]

go to your penances and select missions tab. you can find out which one youre missing cuz it will say 0 out of 50 done

[mossy frost]

Your cleave value is how many targets you hit during a swing

[cerulean pelican]

the infantry autogun feels worse than the lazgun, am I missing something?

[polar sandal]

no

[patent sapphire]

it sucks

[cerulean pelican]

Well.... mystery solved

[next lantern]

Does Sharpshooter have some sprint boost or something?

[robust pebble]

Since I've seen a fair few people asking what's up with Shocking Stuff, here's the down low: The Penance is either currently bugged or mislabelled, you must attempt it on Heresy+. You do not need to be the one to get the kills, as teammate kills count towards the total. Wait for a pox walker horde to spawn and hope there's enough in them to nab you the penance.

[half lily]

What's better ?

[tired crown]

I'd say the 374

[robust pebble]

The former for sheer damage potential. The latter for staggering enemies hit by it and for reducing their armour/defence against other attacks. Though if you're mag dumping a bolter on anything below Damnation it's unlikely that it's gonna live long enough for rending to matter.

[ocean raft]

Hey guys small question how do it get my bolter to be full auto?

[tired crown]

The toughness on elite kill would be a nice little addition to you having to sometimes unload on a group of maulers.

[tired crown]

Hip fire it

[inner river]

Hip-fire. It says it's burst but it isn't

[ocean raft]

when i hip fire its its burst

[rain dew]

is it even possible to do There Nothing but the Abyss right now

[patent sapphire]

hold the trigger

[half lily]

Hmm great points thanks for the help 🌹

[ocean raft]

okay works now weird

thanks

[slate inlet]

God save me, trying to do the coherency penance for Ogryn is pain

[robust pebble]

You need three friends and/or other Ogryns who'll basically crawl through the map with you. You'll never get that in public servers.

[jade canyon]

How does this force sword look so far

[robust pebble]

Or bots, but you'll also never get those in a game below Damnation. Damnation lobby's are mostly empty or people doing cheese strats for various penances.

[slate inlet]

Yeah literally been trying to get lucky and not get joined on

isnt panning out

[dusk hemlock]

so stress for doing penances no one help when my mic have problem and public is alway have player join

[robust pebble]

You'll also have to pray you don't get a boss.

[karmic skiff]

Does parry on melee weapons do an attack infront of the user if you activate it?

[slate inlet]

and somehow getting 4 ogryns together is harder than doing the penance itself

[robust pebble]

Yes, it's a quick slash but it's kinda not worth it if you're being attacked by anything heavy hitting. Ragers will rip you a new one and if there's a horde on you, you're going to take damage during the counter swipe.

[inner steeple]

What's the best melee for Ogryn?

[karmic skiff]

Yeah it seems like if you’re being swarmed you should just shield bash

[karmic skiff]

Probably shield at higher tiers

[robust pebble]

Slab Shield or Latrine shovel seem to be the go-to for most people.

Shield is invaluable if you use the special attack on it. You're invulnerable and things can't pass you.

Aside from disabler specials.

[karmic skiff]

It’s almost too useful tbh

[robust pebble]

The number of times I've had an Ogryn plant his shield down and I've shot my flamer up his ass to ruin a horde

Best cover.

[karmic skiff]

Lmao

It gets toasty down in the hive

[inner steeple]

Shield feels absolute garbage for killing anything.

[robust pebble]

Shield isn't meant for killing. You're meant to protect and draw aggro.

[karmic skiff]

Not for killing but crowd control and team support

[inner steeple]

Bruh I have to carry. I can't sit on my ass blocking.

[slate inlet]

get toughness on hit for shield and it all comes together

[karmic skiff]

Lmao true

[kindred prism]

As @robust pebble said, shovels are the best go to option. Tho I would say the cleavers are a close second. Mainly because the blunt melee weapons (like slab shields and clubs) are great for crowd control but horrible for 1v1 and dps

[lilac phoenix]

is there ANY WAY how to get zealots bleed crit talent to work?
even on 4 normal mobs die on crit and to rely that there will be something left that you can hit again to stack the bleed is ... just a very bad minigame
Only thing that semi worked what a knife with "bleed on NONweakpoint hit (which is something you DONT want to do with a finesse weapon)

[kindred prism]

Tho if you team mostly consists of either Psykers or Guardsmen, I would say to take the shield, its great for mobile cover for your allies

[elder lagoon]

Guys two questions.
They probably will add later heigh/voice change into the barber shop right ?
And second one, gonna start playing with my buddy who wants to play as Ogryn, will Vet be okay for duo together or zealot would pair better ?
Thaaanks for tips.

[boreal river]

So, is it true that you can get the veteran never miss penance if you play as the zealot with a flamer?

[kindred prism]

Ogryns and Guardsmen synergise really well. Can't tell if that was on purpose or not, but if it was it would be a great nod to the IG lore on the developers part

[dusk hedge]

when can I get different clothes?

[kindred prism]

this is becaue Zelots are melee focused while Guardsmen are range focused

[thin flint]

Hi, i have problem with penances. I playing preacher and 2 of them are bugged. 1st one is "praise the god-emperor" (7/7 done) and its not done for me i was trying to reinstall game but its still buged. 2nd one is "abhor the mutant" i was trying on every single difficult, and with eviserator or hammer and its not coplited yet. Im hoppless

[dusk hedge]

The axe feels really bad when lots of enemies

[kindred prism]

Check the penance tab in the menu and look at the challenges for your class, they reward different clothing for completing certain challenges, thou would suggest getting a group together cause it's hard to complete the achievement when playing with randos

[dusk hedge]

I just play quick play atm

[kindred prism]

ah, then maybe ask them for help via text chat?

sometimes works

[dusk hedge]

only played gamef or an hour so far XD

[kindred prism]

oh, in that case play until you get to lvl 15 before you attempt anything

[dusk hedge]

trying to find a ranged weapon I can use rapid but has enough ammo

[kindred prism]

what class do you play?

[random zealot]

Help me figure it out, I can't figure out who Corruptor is and what he looks like.

[slow fog]

Demon eyeball that appears after killing the three nodules

[dusk hedge]

sharpshooter

[whole nebula]

eyeball

[kindred prism]

it's those big guys with the tenticles and eyes you find during the "clear the corruption" missions

[random zealot]

tnx

[jagged phoenix]

what does bleed do?

[kindred prism]

would suggust the auto pistol, but you get access to a fully automatic Elysium/Harkoni Lasgun which are basically LMG's at lvl 10, i think

[cobalt needle]

Is anyone else having problems with Matchmaking? I just get thrown into an empty lobby and then it launches me with bots every single mission.

[dusk hedge]

thanks!

[royal rock]

what is sway reducation ?

[whole nebula]

I'm in such a god damn loop, I try make every shot count for hours, fail, distract myself, look up help, see someone say the same advice I've been using for three days and call it "pretty simple" and then just do it all over again.

[storm laurel]

reduction of sway

[royal rock]

yes . what dose that mean

[storm laurel]

sway is reduced

[little zinc]

the reducing of swayness

[royal rock]

ok what dose that mean

[little zinc]

swaying being lessened by the reduction and reducing of sway

[royal rock]

i dont get it

what is sway

[whole nebula]

Swayn't

[polar sandal]

weapon sway is how much your weapon/aim will sway around while you're ADSing. sway reduction reduces that movement

[little zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZM-5SYr2Yk&themeRefresh=1

Sway

[royal rock]

dose this still work when i run out of stamina

[proper coral]

Nope.

When do the missions available rotate? Is it going to be random or mission types changing every few days?

[raw plover]

is the coherence penance on ogryn bugged?