gameplay-help

[silent dome]

god I cannot get a single fucking win

[uncut verge]

I get the ready up queue about half the time... I also select which mission to run

[sturdy sandal]

how come? bad luck?

[uncut verge]

when I don't, 80 percent of the time they're at the beginning still

[silent dome]

bad luck and I keep getting people level 6 and below joining up to play Malice endless horde missions

[uncut verge]

only 10% of my queues do I join a game where they've started combat

[silent dome]

I literally ran through half a mission with 2000 enemies on my ass to revive everyone and it still wasnt enough

[sturdy sandal]

oof, I can already solo Malice now xD, with bots ofc

[silent dome]

game through a boss at me and everything

[silent dome]

bots would probably be more useful than some of these people

[sturdy sandal]

true

[silent dome]

literal dead weight

[sturdy sandal]

not even cap.

[silent dome]

the one mission today I actually completed was just because I had competent teammates

I hate playing with randos

[sturdy sandal]

that said tho, I dont like soloing :/

I'd rather play with bad teammates than solo with bots

[tight cedar]

yeah playing with bots in pyjamas sucks

[uncut verge]

my lobbies have been mostly fair

[silent dome]

its either im carrying or being carried, I wouldnt mind if it was the latter but its always the former

[silent dome]

6 failed runs in a row

[uncut verge]

What diff?

[tight cedar]

yikes

[silent dome]

i am not in a good mood

[fluid magnet]

I know how you feel

[silent dome]

malice, 3/5 whatever its called

[uncut verge]

And Endless or not?

[fluid magnet]

some folks are just charging in

[silent dome]

over half of them endless

[fluid magnet]

not deploying their medpacks or ammo

[uncut verge]

Endless Malice is a high fail rate

[fluid magnet]

just ended up getting people killed

[uncut verge]

regular malice is mostly wins

[silent dome]

I dont choose I just quickplay

how come no quickplay bonus, vermintide had that

[gray geyser]

are we gonna be able to play with our "own" bots after 30 nov?

[uncut verge]

Oh, well... don't do that lol

[dark spindle]

the game on their way to throw every trapper and flamer in existence at once

[uncut verge]

match into the non endless Malice runs

[silent dome]

I can quickplay on vermintide and have a good time

not here apparently

[tight cedar]

no idea

[silent dome]

so many people whove played at most 3 missions joining up to do quickplay malice

why

[dark spindle]

dunno

[silent dome]

ridiculous

[uncut verge]

Are you doing weeklies?

[dark spindle]

incredibly under geared people seem to gravitate to malice for some odd reason

[silent dome]

I wanna tell them to fuck off and play lower difficulties but I'd feel mean, then we get wiped anyways

[uncut verge]

I don't recommend quick play. There's only a couple options per difficulty, pick the one you'd rather play

[silent dome]

people seem to be under the impression this is like DRG, where Hazard 3 can be done by anyone

instead this is more like payday 2 when it launched, where middle of the road and above should be played by people with some experience

[balmy basin]

It just depends on who you get really

[silent dome]

or, well, like vermintide

[tight cedar]

well the problem is how difficulty 1 and 2 are very similar then the jump from 2 to 3 is insane

[dark spindle]

my main gripe is when you get a sharpshooter with no anti armor nor have the capability to horde run off and eat all the ammo on the map

[tight cedar]

so newer players ace 2 then jump into 3 expecting a small step up

[dark spindle]

and then proceed to get mauled to death by a poxhound

[uncut verge]

And 3 Endless is absolutely bonkers

[silent dome]

I only eat all the ammo when I see my teammates ammo is still white and because I use the columnus and mag dump into hordes and specials

[gray geyser]

and here i am playing uprising all day with level 15-25 teammates doing weekly quests

[balmy basin]

Had a level 2 Psyker jump straight into Malice. They did pretty good, never went down

[silent dome]

I just want some moni

[tight cedar]

i did all my weeklies on the first day of the week now i just get to sit here and look at all the cool guns i cant afford till next week

[silent dome]

since malice gives double the amount of money uprising gives

[uncut verge]

I've only done I think 3 Malice Endless runs, and each of them had 2 minibosses each, with hordes and non-stop specials during the minibosses

Barely limped through once

[dark spindle]

simple solution

[verbal magnet]

Same. I want that Bolter they got for the Vet in there right now. It's got armor rending which makes it even better AA.

[dark spindle]

bolter/plasma mag dump it to death

[silent dome]

endless is honestly insanely ridiculous

[uncut verge]

oh wait, 4... I forgot the hilariously short run we got mobbed by specials hella early and all got pinned/downed

[silent dome]

I feel like it and grimoires should give a much bigger reward than they have right now

especially grims, grims are not worth it at all unless youre doing weeklies

[uncut verge]

And then you run grim on Uprising lol

[tight cedar]

i tried a difficulty 5 endless earlier in the sewer level and we wiped at the very first drop down where the mission starts because we got trapped in a corner by a swarm of poxies, 3 crushers a few gunners and then a plague ogryn about 15 seconds later

its just insane

[dark spindle]

that was my experience today but it was like 4 crushers and a flamer

[uncut verge]

Endless Grim on Uprising.... haven't lost yet.

Endless OR Grim on Malice..... have only won once lol

[dark spindle]

straight up spawn camping

[tight cedar]

yeah the drop downs and level starts are 100% RNG as to whether it causes you to wipe

[vocal nacelle]

2 crusher 2 bulwark and dozen armoured rager

[tight cedar]

instant choke point into a horde and theres nothing you can do

[dark spindle]

no amount of panic tossing grenades and mag dumping saved us that day, only getting stunlocked then nuked

tis a tragedy

[silent dome]

guess I gotta go down to uprising I guess

[uncut verge]

Director just be like...

[silent dome]

cant do malice unless I gotta 4 man or something

[uncut verge]

Again, just pick non Grim/Endless Malice missions and don't QP it

[vocal nacelle]

anyone got a guide for ranged weapon? whats the difference in MK II, IV, V, VI

[silent dome]

the one malice I got that went fine was with fellow 20s and a level 30 and we shredded it

[balmy basin]

Boggled by the fact people are losing on malice

[rigid wasp]

^ this

I can barely find teammates that can handle malice like dude it's not that hard

[silent dome]

like 6 in a row all losses

[silent dome]

give me your luck then

[rigid wasp]

the only thing that kills me in malice is a sniper if I don't react fast enough or I'm looking the wrong way

[dark spindle]

you must consider these are the same blokes that can't sidestep specials

[real portal]

All fair if you aren't man enough for the job, but improving your skill will make you win malice with ease even with nutjobs for rejects

[balmy basin]

I haven't lost a malice mission as of yet

[silent dome]

everyone I find is like level 6 "I just started playing 10 minutes ago"

[vocal nacelle]

lvl 6 newbs full squad malice, low level smurf doable

[silent dome]

ok big man

[rigid wasp]

I had a full team of 20s and they couldn't handle one big horde

[silent dome]

now thats ridiculous

[rigid wasp]

I got doinked by a sniper when I wasn't looking and the moment I got kiled by it they just fell apart

2 vets zealot and psyker

[tight cedar]

even if you're good at the game malice is the point where you still need some teamwork

[rigid wasp]

flamer bolter 2 lasgun

[tight cedar]

you dont need a huge amount but some support is needed

but theres plenty of people who suck at even that

[silent dome]

also the games jank getting in your way

[real portal]

I've seen 30 teams going down in malice because of overestimation and rushing too fast, simple trapper+sniper and dog combo can kill a jacked out squad.

[dark spindle]

my baseline requirement at this point is for the backline to at the very least stagger/kill the specials when im killing the horde

[silent dome]

like the poor hit reg and disablers still hitting you cause of lag or bad hitboxes

[balmy basin]

You sure it's not your PC?

[tight cedar]

nah the servers are still pretty rough

[silent dome]

apparently lots of people are having issues with hitreg

[dark spindle]

to be fair those dogs have magnets in their paws or something

[uncut verge]

Gotta love the games pathfinding on special pounces...

Mutant charging. Dodge too soon, but doge behind cover so it can't charge me anyways, runs past, instant 180 and grab

[tight cedar]

hit detection is wonky sometimes

[dark spindle]

or when a dog/muti jumpscares you through fire and mauls you to death

[uncut verge]

Try to dodge, body blocked by enemy that just dropped from ceiling in front of your dodge. Flamer immediately shows up and burns you to death in 2s while pinned

[dark spindle]

derivative scenario: dodge first trapper that spawns but get hit by the other trapper that was conveniently behind you, flamer burns you to death

[silent dome]

I actually dont have a huge issue with the dogs

[uncut verge]

Hah, near same happened to me, dodged and came in hard melee to kill trapper... another to side nailed me

[rapid ermine]

What herecy is this? Dont you guys enjoy pushing against a horde in a corner just to be instantly face slapped by a trapper + pox flamer combo BEHIND THE CORNER AND THE HORDE

[uncut verge]

I usually don't but there are times you just get fucked

[balmy basin]

Should've heard it coming

[uncut verge]

Like body blocked, or a "little busy" fighting 3 ravagers

[balmy basin]

[tight cedar]

the best is when you're walking past one of the spawn doors and it immediately opens and a burster blasts you across the room with no counterplay

[dark spindle]

oh yes those are great as well

[tight cedar]

ive had them double up too and nearly one shot me

[dark spindle]

my other favorite is when a monstrocity spawns in one of those tight corridor areas

those really get me going

[uncut verge]

I had a burster that was behind a wall of pox walkers with 4 ravagers making a shield wall between me and it

I can deal with packs of elites. I can deal with pinners. I can even take them in mix. But when they're full packs of both it gets pretty hairy, and that shouldn't be happening on bloody Malice lmao

[outer bloom]

You can def do malice with a 4 man quickplay. I think around 250-300 weapon level it stopped matching me down with lvl 2s with no gear.

[tight cedar]

yeah malice will sometimes just decide its had enough of you and will act like a heresy mission

[outer bloom]

Oh hey they turned off the slow chat

Yeah the biggest wall I ran into on malice was just getting endlessly downmatched with low level players. They should probably have the unlock be gear level rather than level locked because holy crap is it not doable with bad gear.

It's not a skill issue or a gatekeeping thing. your level 150 chainsword is going to need several hits to down a generic mob. I'm sure king dark of tide mountain could do it but not me.

[tight cedar]

yeah new players coming into malice with their starting sword that takes 2-3 headshots to kill the normal walkers is a big yikes

[uncut verge]

As long as they allow any difficulty for private matches (when those are added) then I think they should absolutely increase the minimums for public matching

[outer bloom]

Yeah again it should really be gear level locked in pub play just like it was in vermintide. Meanwhile the game unlocks malice missions for you at like level 5.

Totally unrelated question. How does the flamer work exactly. do I have to hold it on target for a certain period for burn to proc?

[uncut verge]

taking on high diff with shit gear and no feats is a thing some maniacs do with Tide

[rapid ermine]

the 2 matches i tried it, you "poof" it and something happens or you m2 and then holdm1 and it does long "poof" and you cant see shit and move slowly af

[uncut verge]

but public matches should be protected and better focused

[rapid ermine]

then i went back to chainswording shit to death

[outer bloom]

I actually changed my statement to say "public matchmaking" exactly because I don't think those maniacs should be locked out of maniacing. May not have been clear enough there.

Specifically if you wanna go into the matchmaker and just do mission with randos for prog low gear level becomes a form of inadvertent griefing.

Especially since darktide doesn't list a recommended gearscore either so new players may be confuese

[rapid ermine]

Also super "fun" to be a new player with starting gear on difficulty1 mission to have some random lvl25+ Zealot be there and soloing everything 2 checkpoints ahead of everyone else

[silent dome]

Im at the 300 gear level and I still get matched with low level players

but yeah they should either up the level requirement for malice or change it to a gear requirement

[uncut verge]

I didn't see you say the word "public" at all, and "matchmaking" was part of your explanation of the problem, not part of the change, but we're still thinking the same thing

[silent dome]

I thought V2's level requirement for unlocking difficulties was also way too lenient

[uncut verge]

Really just needs to have a higher limit put on public games and no limit on private

that way everyone can be happy.

Even if you're great, I don't really want you in my Heresy game with white gear and no talents

[silent dome]

yeah

[rapid ermine]

You should be able to setup the gear range you want to be matched with...

[uncut verge]

why make it complicated

[rapid ermine]

It can be complicated or unplayble really

[silent dome]

I think for specials the most dangerous to me are the pox burster, the sniper, the trapper and the bomber. The bomber cause he always likes to sit behind cover and lob those damn things at the perfect moment to separate us or trap us in a corner.

[uncut verge]

or it can be simple?

[astral trench]

So are all 7 mission types available currently? I haven't seen the other two in rotation

[uncut verge]

you just need to be higher level to play higher diff?

[shell cedar]

what does rending do?

[outer bloom]

Yeah its purely a level thing

[uncut verge]

debuff to reduce their armor value

[tired crown]

One was only available on the first day and has been removed from the rotation. You should hopefully be able to get them all at launch.

[outer bloom]

you can put on your starting white gear and pop into heresy QP

[silent dome]

its not really malice most of those losses happened on anyways, it was malice endless

[uncut verge]

Going from 2 to 3 was a pretty big step.

Going from 3 to Endless 3 was even bigger lol

[silent dome]

the difference between a normal mission and an endless mission is a lot more than I'd think, tho it does also depend on how the AI director feels, which in this game is always not angry

[tired crown]

That's spot on, sometimes you'll get absolutely shredded by the director. Other times it feels much more even keeled.

I've had games where I've checked multiple times to make sure it wasn't endless horde, just a jerk of an AI director.

[silent dome]

the only mission ive lost on malice endless where I actually had good teammates was just cause the final area was throwing literal non stop hordes at us with like 5 specials every 2 seconds, not much we could do when we all ran out of ammo

[tight cedar]

the jump from 3-4 is also huge

[tired crown]

How do you find rank 4 games that aren't endless horde? I only ever get those.

[outer bloom]

rank 4 is the first "probably find some buddies" rank

[tired crown]

I don't even try 4s anymore because of it. Never found a team close to good enough.

[tight cedar]

i find 4 without endless is harder than 3 with endless

[silent dome]

I think ive actually noticed they have a color scheme convention for weapon variants

[outer bloom]

Also endless horde is um.... can we have another variant condition please?

[tight cedar]

4 with endless is pretty nuts

[tired crown]

I agree, it would take some time to get lucky with pugs.

[silent dome]

for all weapons, the brown colored one is usually the slowest to fire and has the highest damage per shot, the green is middle of the road and the blue is highest firerate and lowest damage per shot

for anyone confused on what weapon to buy this might help

[outer bloom]

not really worth it since you're probably pubbing for creds or xp or both.

[tired crown]

At this point just crafting mats

[rapid ermine]

Does endless horde missions have some extra reward?

[tight cedar]

endless gives more money and xp

difficulty 4 is also loaded with crafting mats

real juicy

[tired crown]

Bah, of course it is. Lol

[green hound]

Do recon las guns have a sort of auto target to the head with hipfire..?

[rapid ermine]

Every gun has some sort of auto aim towards ogryns and zealots IMO

[green hound]

I mean towards everything

[tight cedar]

i know the recons tend to have really good hipfire for about 30 rounds but idk about auto targeting

havent used one in a while though

[outer bloom]

Cra

So whats the point of crafting mats right now?

Just upgrading rarity?

[dark spindle]

pretty much

[outer bloom]

but eventually rerolling talents and upping the gear score?

[dark spindle]

other functionalities will be added eventually

[cursive torrent]

It kinda feels that way, doesn’t it? I can wade through shooters poppin in the head from the hip with a recon but give me a normal lasgun and I’ll miss 9/10 point blank shots lol.

[outer bloom]

rerolling talents is gonna be the big money sink

[turbid dock]

Mg12 has horrible hipfire accuracy lol

[outer bloom]

get the exact right gun, then spend all your mats rerolling traits to worse traits in pursuit of good traits

[stone wing]

the enemies 3ft away from me would tend to disagree sir

[soft wing]

What exactly does charging the Surge staff do? Increase in damage? Duration? Number of Targets?

[turbid dock]

The blog said something about scrapping 3 parts with the same blessing to apply it to any weapon

[outer bloom]

Recon lasgun also produces quite literally 3-5 times as many individual bullets as the regular one (the torrent one is nuts) so king statistics takes over

[cursive torrent]

I mean it also just does hipfire a lot more accurately. I rarely miss at all with the recon when hipfiring.

Im not even sure aiming does anything to their accuracy tbh

[outer bloom]

I never hipfire the recon so I wouldnt know

I like knowing where im shooting

also I like that lasguns don't have bullet rise in this game because laser.

[unreal aurora]

Anyone know what the alt swing for the axe does? It’s like an uppercut?

[cursive torrent]

I… I don’t know. I used it before, but it seems pretty much useless?

[outer bloom]

which axe?

[tight cedar]

it has higher stagger

[green hound]

Also, does anyone using the deadshot perk know if it only crits while you have stamina?

[cursive torrent]

Maybe it shield breaks bulwarks?

[tight cedar]

good for ragers and such

[turbid dock]

Yea maulers too

[outer bloom]

The tac axe whacks em with the back end. I think it has higher armor pen

[bold token]

Deadshot requires stamina to be active.

[outer bloom]

I don't really feel deadshot since I spend 70% of my combat time with aim down sights on.

[green hound]

So a recon las gun build is pointless with deadshot because you can only fire a few rounds XD

[outer bloom]

I guess it would synergize well with the bolter or plasma

[ocean sand]

Anyone have listed the all 7 types of missions?

[outer bloom]

Recon las def doesnt synergize with deadshot due to the charge time though.

I think recon las could use a buff to let you hold it at max charge

or at least cancel out without weapon swap

[balmy basin]

Assassination, Investigation, Raid, Strike, Disruption, Espionage, and Repair

Also I just finished an Endless Malice. Okay I see what you guys were talking about, a bit nutty

[ocean sand]

Thank you!

[balmy basin]

Felt like Heresy with all the elites

[outer bloom]

endless can sometimes just ruin your team by throwing 3 trappers and 2 dogs at you and your entire team gets stunlocked

or you get 2 trappers and a tox flamer

[tall shadow]

Sardine works well, strike assassination, repair, disruption, investigation, Nraid, espionage

[rapid ermine]

Dont you enjoy being in a trapper net inside a sea of green fuck you?

[outer bloom]

No. Not particularly.

[rapid ermine]

Tough luck, get used to it 😄

[outer bloom]

better than getting dogged and fired honestly

[stone wing]

why sardine, it's not even right

you could go RAIDERS

[blissful python]

Honestly the current iteration of heresy where it' just perma endless is kinda fun if you get a good team

[quasi spade]

ingame or...?

[rapid ermine]

It feels like sometimes the AI absolutely punishes you for pushing too fast. You get pinned and a random flamer spawns in between you and your team, effectively CCing you away from teams help

[tall shadow]

That works much better lol

[rapid ermine]

I have been forced to just watch as a guy gets trapper netted and kicked to death by a horde because a random flamer just spew bullshit between me and the ally in trouble

[tough cove]

That's kinda the job of specials though, to split the team or to at least put stress on team synergy, at least they give great audio cues and marking them lets you easily identify them even amidst the chaos.

[rapid ermine]

Ye i get that, it just feels horrible when the flamer is comboing with another special that pins someone

[tight cedar]

the trapper into a bomber yeeting a nade across the map on top of you is my favourite

[rapid ermine]

It would be great if it like split the team in to 2 groups of 2 and threw a horde at both of them or something, instead of going "fuck you in particular" and flaming over a pinned ally

[tight cedar]

guaranteed death

[tough cove]

I think part of the problem is a lot of times people don't mark things, 90% of the time I'm the only one marking everything, I rebounded it to Q and also to me it's a second nature as I used to mark everything in gears of war as well

[tough cove]

That depends on your team, that's very achieveable, 1 guy is seperated by fire and in trouble? Zealot can go through the fire, lose shield, then ult to regain shield, boom, now you're not alone

[rapid ermine]

I want the ability to mark multiple enemies so badly... So many times where i have to decide do i want to mark the trapper or another special that is about to ruin someone's day

[tough cove]

You also don't need to kill the special, just even staggering him will prevent him from spraying fire and buying those 1-2 seconds you might need to regroup

[tough cove]

Yes, honestly I feel like this should be some classes passive ability, like veteran or psyker

like psyker can feel them, veteran something in targetting systems, can mark up to 4 targets

but I think they didn't do that because they want the whole team to use the marking system

[rapid ermine]

Zealot/ogryn... Let the frontlines shout out kill orders to the ranged special killers!

[tough cove]

No they're they ones keeping the horde at bay 😛
Psyker and vet are the ones looking out for specials and elites, or should be.

The only exception I can think of is ogryn and toxburster

[rapid ermine]

Most of the time when i play zealot, i get area denied by a sniper until i mark it and sharpshooter or psyker kills it. And it wont fucking die until i mark it because its in a position that the ranged babies cannot see

[outer bloom]

I can never seem to manage to mark the things

I do not have half a second to find it while I am being murdered by 2 hordes and 5 maulers

[tough cove]

Just mark the general area with the social wheel and enemy mark

The system is smart enough that if there is an enemy in that area, it will also mark the enemy

Like if I spammed Q and it didn't work, I mark it "enemy" and move on, maye someone will kill when they can

Luckily they also have very clear sound cues and visuals for every shot, very easy to dodge or to hear where it's coming from

[fathom crag]

Wtf, I got the Dream Team achievement in game for 100 missions without anyone being downed, but it didn't trigger on Steam

[tough cove]

RIP, if it still doesn't unlock after a few more matches, maybe report it as a bug

[outer bloom]

Forgiveness is a sin punishable by death!

Destroy them for their failure to mark your achievement.

[fathom crag]

Also is Hadron considered the Shrine of the Omnissiah?

[outer bloom]

Seriously though I love the loading screen quips

[empty path]

are there any use for the old weapons in your inventory, or can you just discard them?

[fathom crag]

Because I don't have that achievement either :/

[silent dome]

welp another malice run lost at the last second

I really need to stop playing with pubs

[outer bloom]

maybe deconstructing them later? now, no.

[silent dome]

anyone here open

[tough cove]

Sell them, unless they have a perk on them you'd like to keep in the future

[silent dome]

im tired of losing

[solemn yew]

veteran power or chainsaw sword and why?

[outer bloom]

power definitely. more armor pen

[tough cove]

Power sword until it gets nerfed seems to be the popular opinion rn

Enjoy it while you can

[silent dome]

maybe instead of nerfing the power sword they can do the fun thing and just buff everything else

[outer bloom]

power sword is a bit broken. You will keep up with bad zealots.

[empty path]

okay so discard is equal to sell, sorry for being noob 😄

[silent dome]

is there a LFG channel in this server

im done playing with pubs this shit aint working

[tough cove]

#vox-lfg-emea

[dark spindle]

sitting in a voice channel and waiting does wonders

[tame turtle]

is this good?

[tough cove]

Quel speed is a bit low, but has perk to compensate

so why not

I personally value quell speed a lot

[lapis vapor]

you doing heresy or something?

[silent dome]

no

literally just malice

but my teammates are just...

[tough cove]

Probably lvl 8s with their first character figure they gonna join malice

[silent dome]

yes

[dark spindle]

he's been getting ye olde brain rotted teamates

[silent dome]

this has happened 7 times in a row now

I am losing my mind

[tough cove]

Protip: you don't even need a full team, just get a reliable friend and you 2 can carry the game, on malice at least

[outer bloom]

Are zealots actually just supposed to beat on monstrosities with melee?

[silent dome]

I'm not even that good at this game I should not be the one carrying, I dont know why they got rid of end-game stat sheets cause im quite confident the green circles would all be o nme

[tough cove]

Melee does the most damage, so yes, if they know the animations and know when to dodge and block, it's the best way to kill a bos

[dark spindle]

don't forget commiting acts of arson on occasion

[rigid wasp]

Do not buy an lucius mk 1

[outer bloom]

the beast seems to just surround itself with a poop trail

[rigid wasp]

It’s just not good

[tough cove]

Kek 💩

[worn relic]

use dodge to get past it faster

[dark spindle]

going into melee into beasts of nurgle is just asking to get ate

[tough cove]

That's why you don't melee it head on

[dark spindle]

be a respectable gentlemen and mag dump it with your lads

[tough cove]

Only if you're gonna hit the weakspot

[outer bloom]

I've gotten pretty good at spinny death dodge but the poop trail is hell

[tough cove]

https://preview.redd.it/ae2nucclgp1a1.jpg?width=510&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0a8bd580cbb32b8ba79742679c584aff2c5489b

You only do 35% ranged dmg if you're not hititng the weakspot

[outer bloom]

I think you can break unyeilding

[tough cove]

Break? You mean shred? Then you'd need a weapon that shreds

it's not a penetration modifier

[outer bloom]

so a ripper or a torrent gun

[tough cove]

it's a damage modifier

doesn't matter if you have 1 pen or 1000 pen

[outer bloom]

I thought it was like a a stance

[tough cove]

No, it's an armor type

[outer bloom]

but I was testing with a torrent las

[lapis vapor]

woulda say drop down to diff 2 and level up if youre still struggling, i cant say much anymore because i dont even use brain power on dif 3 to clear it now.

[outer bloom]

yeah but leveling past 20 tops becomes hell on diff 2

[silent dome]

diff 2 is too easy

im level 21 I swear it aint me

[dark spindle]

you should be doing malice by the time you are at 20 anyways

granted you have one or two friends with you to lighten the load

[outer bloom]

I would say it's more a question of gear score but your gearscore should be decent by then.

[silent dome]

gearscore is fine

I know this sounds hard to believe but you need teammates to play a team game, and again I keep getting people who are level 10 and below

[gray geyser]

what gear score is decent for malice?

[outer bloom]

Part of the problem is the time of day

250 if you're good?

[silent dome]

yea im gearscore 300 at this point

[outer bloom]

300 otherwise.

[silent dome]

its just hard cause every match ive joined

the moment I slip up once the entire team folds

[outer bloom]

also a whole team of 300s should be solid but going in at 250 you're betting on getting 3 dudes at 300.

[gray geyser]

weapons are both 300+ but trinkets are under 100. is that fine?

[dark spindle]

trinkets don't go that high anyways

[outer bloom]

instead of getting matched with a drooling idiot, call of duty mcgee and level 2 hi I just started playing.

[gray geyser]

thx guys

[outer bloom]

yeah trinkets don't really matter as much. weapon score effects your damage.

Also its like 2am to 5am on a friday night for the US playerbase so finding teams might be hard.

[dusk hemlock]

can i stack kill enemy on cliffhaner or i need push them out all in 1 mission

[grand flint]

is Abhor the Mutant bugged? I've done it like 3 times now and not gotten credit

or is it worded incorrectly and can't be taken literally

[frosty star]

I have watched Italian Spartacus video on cosmetics and penances
Where do you get the kill shots punishment uniform and kantrael mark 4 warden helm? The shop?

[rapid ermine]

Where as others go "PEW PEW" the MG-Ia goes "PEW PEW PEW".

I honestly cannot tell the difference between the ones i have tried 😄

All i know that if the gun doesnt have flashlight, it sucks balls

[outer bloom]

good god do these fuckers literally not understand "Going forward"?

[rapid ermine]

Almost like randoms have 2 modes of movement. Too slow or too fast. There is nothing in between those 2

[frosty star]

It's their rate of fire I forgot which is which I know the bluish one is faster fire rate

[outer bloom]

Like why am I turning around, checking, my team are all threre. I leap into a mob of dudes and suddenly Im dead and the rando 8 in this malice has run BACKWARDS and the two idiots have followed him

[rapid ermine]

Aint Ia the semi auto that is super accurate even when fired as fast as possible? Using like 2 rounds per shot

a.k.a "THE headshot pew pew"

[dark spindle]

torch

[scarlet wigeon]

How does "Ranged Critical Hit" effect flamers, if at all?

[rapid ermine]

Aint flamer crit a stagger?

[scarlet wigeon]

Thats a good question I cant pretend to know

[rapid ermine]

The flamer felt nice to use, even while i dont even understand how it works. The short "pfft" of regular firing seemed to randomly stagger enemies so i quess that was crits or something like that

[outer bloom]

there are 3 lasguns. Lucius, Kantrel and Accatrans. Then there are about 3-4 mks of each with slightly variant propertiews

same with most everything I think

[zinc brook]

whats the rarest color?

[outer bloom]

orange

[scarlet wigeon]

so far gold "master-crafted"

[zinc brook]

<blue<purple<orange?

[outer bloom]

is it actually called gold?

its a sort of orangey yellow

Link that, sounds useful

[scarlet wigeon]

Like this

[zinc brook]

is it worth buying green or just wait for blue?

[outer bloom]

you can upgrade greens to blue pretty cheap

[scarlet wigeon]

Focus on the type of weapon in the early game

[odd light]

anyone else been having trouble? My game is constantly crashing now and won't start up, I checked the files reinstalled the game and updated my computer it self and still nothing

[outer bloom]

I cranked down the settings unreasonably low and suddenly my game stopped gpu hanging

[silent dome]

which braced autogun is the best

[outer bloom]

very annoying

[silent dome]

ive been using the columnus but there's a high stat graia mk IV here in the shop

[elder spire]

Technically rarity doesnt matter in the sense that it does not directly affect the base stats shown for the weapon. You could have a grey weapon with a similar powerlevel and stats like a orange one and it would have similar performance

[outer bloom]

but no perks, which can be pretty ludicrous (or worthless)

[elder spire]

but the perks and blessings are nice to have, jf you get some decent ones

its rng, so its whatever

Sometimes its good sometimes not

[outer bloom]

something like a 5% reload speed is absolutely worth having.

Any of the perks that say they proc "5% of the time" or whatever seem pretty much bugged to uselless

[elder spire]

I'd ditch that unless its like 10%+

[rapid ermine]

Then again something like +10% dmg on first attack of chain / -10% dmg on concecutive attacks in a chain on a melee weapon feels so bad to get

[elder spire]

Feels like most of the perks are just too weak to be worth it

Idk why its like that

[silent dome]

oh man am I glad I got this, the graia is an objective improvement over the one I had

[whole nebula]

my child

[full loom]

Just updated to the latest patch for Windows 11 and now my game shits itself in the Mourningstar. CTDs consistently

[rapid ermine]

thats windows11 for you

[outer bloom]

"Windows 11" Well there's your problem"

[elder spire]

@full loom using windows 11 was your first mistake

[full loom]

I've had windows 11 for a full year and had zero issues

[lapis bramble]

Someone explain me please how to make the bomb achievement because it seems to be I am an absolute retard at throwing grenades.

[odd light]

Game is in beta but once in full verison it shouldn't have a lot of issues

[scarlet wigeon]

Longbomb?

[full loom]

Aim up and tap left click. Don't hold it

you do a way less powerful lob
should make it easier

[silent dome]

look for a zone with a high ceiling and some patrolling shooters or a standing horde

aim up and yeet by tapping left click

[dense pecan]

Helps against the smell!

No recolor variants in the shop after unlock

[tall shadow]

What does the tier 3 helmet look like?

[outer bloom]

I think there's only the 1 helmet?

[near sapphire]

is disruption mission type out yet

[full loom]

sand map is back yea

[tall shadow]

There is at least 2 I assume 3

[lapis bramble]

I'll try because I am crazy. I always aim instead of just throwing.

[full loom]

covid times

[lapis bramble]

yes, long bomb. I am tired of throwing bombs at large distance with diferent curvatures etc.

[rapid ermine]

Fitting for a stroll at the bottom of a hive

[scarlet wigeon]

I have a setup for you 1 second

[outer bloom]

god I wish I could get long bomb to work

[full loom]

Just rebooted. Gonna see if my game still crashes. Devs are probably aware of the windows 11 issues

[outer bloom]

I'm pretty sure i could get long bomb in a second if the game allowed private lobbies

Just stop the randos screaming into mobs at top speed

[scarlet wigeon]

Go here and arc your grenade so that you see the green trail stop mid air, get it just above head level. When you see there heads reaching up to climb up lob to grenades you'll get it

[outer bloom]

The issue with long bomb is that the grenade has like a 4 second timer and isn't allowed to touch the fucking ground

[lapis bramble]

I'll try. I am desperated hahaha

[scarlet wigeon]

I got it on my second try with this set

[elder spire]

At least Vet penances are still possible to do... How about psyker penances? Cant fucking advance past the first hat cosmetic :D

[rapid ermine]

Just get the habit of doing random max range yeets on missions, you will eventually get it

[coral loom]

What weps are folks favourites on Zealot

[scarlet wigeon]

FLAMER!

[outer bloom]

Just solo a beast of nurgle on heresy. Whats the issue?

[rapid ermine]

chainsword + shotgun or flamer

Which is actually better for bosses/beasts? Flamer or shitgun?

[outer bloom]

probably an autogun

or a las

[scarlet wigeon]

Bosses? Thats what the chainsword is for

[outer bloom]

flamer is for clearing hordes

[rapid ermine]

So shotty then

[scarlet wigeon]

FYI you can you chastie to boost the damage of the flamer to absurd levels

[elder spire]

Yknow, this is manageable with a coordinated squad. But i have to kill 3 elites at once with my peril overload explosion at malice or higher

[dark spindle]

oh boy make everyshot count

that's gonna be real fun

[outer bloom]

yep malice difficulty and the sniper got highlighted, then 30 seconds later its still there and half the squad is dead

[full loom]

update; I rebooted my PC and have been in the mourningstar for more than 5 minutes now.

[outer bloom]

I think im calling it for the night

[pallid echo]

is error 2007 a feature?

[scarlet wigeon]

I mean if your getting enjoyment out of it, they should of charged you extra.

[fringe quiver]

Stupid question probably, but do grimoires reduce health more over time?

[tall shadow]

Yes

[shut crown]

anyone has any tips to complete the Just a Flesh Wound penance?

[scarlet wigeon]

I wierdly got this from join a mission mid game and staying alive with 1 hp and then failing under 10 minute mark. I think it was a bug

[silent dome]

another loss, this time I had two 13s and a 4

a fucking 4

[fringe quiver]

Ok, thanks, than I wasn't imagining it last night, was pretty tired and not sure^^ guess there's stats to help with that. can you negate it completely or only slow it down?

[silent dome]

why are these people playing malice

stop it

[mossy helm]

I feel like a couple of the veteran penances are really hard compared to the other classes. I've been stuck on the "On Overwatch" mission for days and its the only one I need besides the play 50 missions and play each mission type on malice

[silent dome]

I really should just leave next time this happens and save myself the time

[dark spindle]

your plight saddens me

[silent dome]

I dont understand the mentality of these people

[scenic pollen]

@silent dome you should man, some matches are doomed from the start, just leave and go for a new one

[tall shadow]

I am unsure what all “corruption resistance” affects if it’s just the initial affect or also the over time part

[silent dome]

its actually driving me insane

I have no clue what these people are doing or thinking

and of course

[scarlet wigeon]

It comes from the idea that Game lets me do it so I should be ready to do it. A lot of game devs in the past baby there players

[silent dome]

of course

[mossy helm]

I'll be honest I tried to play malice when I started playing at early lvls because I thought my Vermintide knowledge would carry me. I thought wrong lol.

[silent dome]

when I search for a fucking 2/5 difficulty quickplay ,I get level 20, 18 and 30

what is happening

why are people like this

[shut crown]

so i just need to loose a mission within 10 minutes?

[scarlet wigeon]

People probably just trying to get missions done

[scenic pollen]

Yeah funny thing, I actually think when you first unlock heresy it automatically puts it as your difficulty for quick match, at least it did for me on my zealot

[silent dome]

your vermintide knowledge wouldve told you gear is everything dude

come on

thats like the basics of both of these games

[scenic pollen]

so I guess same happens with malice

[silent dome]

your gear and your feats are everything

[mossy helm]

Eh, I was cocky.

[scarlet wigeon]

Not sure I read the text in the pen as you have to win in 10 minutes but I got mine for losing. You also need to be at 1 wound for majority of the time. Again I think it is/was a bug

[shut crown]

is it even possible to finish a Heresy mission in less than 10 minutes?

[scarlet wigeon]

I dont think so

[scenic pollen]

probably just haven't found the right map/strat yet

[tawny cove]

Anyone else had a problem with upgrading weapons? I cant get my blue to go purp even tho I got the mats

[frail comet]

hey, I'm trying to do Freinds will be freinds penance for ogryn, the coherency one if someone want to join

[gray geyser]

in which situation is the flamer any good?

[tawny cove]

Hordes and bosses

[scenic pollen]

hordes, it's really good but you lose all range then so it's a big tradeoff

[tall shadow]

Is it the hammer

[scarlet wigeon]

All situations under 20m and not invloving heavy crusher or bulwarks

[tawny cove]

Yes let me guess its only the hammer its bugged in?

[tall shadow]

Yes

[tawny cove]

Even good against bulwarks, cus it bypasses its shield

Has none, Flamer is great

[scenic pollen]

I really like the stub pistol on zealot to deal with the pesky snipers etc

[scarlet wigeon]

Stub is good early but might as well get a bolter

[tawny cove]

So whats Evisorator vs Thunder like cus ive heard people saying Evis is better than hammer

[scarlet wigeon]

I dont like the hammer because of the power sing is left/right and you will often hit small mobs if you going in for a big target

[fringe quiver]

Friend said hammer has nice single target damage, but not good against multiple enemies. also weapon special might throw your rhythm off

[dark spindle]

counterpoint

[tawny cove]

I mean heavy spam tears through hordes pretty well

[dark spindle]

big hammer

[scarlet wigeon]

Heavy swings of the hammer cleave enemies

[tawny coyote]

true and with the thing that gives you toughtness its great for hordes

[tawny cove]

One lvl 10 perk for Zealot also makes it waaaaay better, the multi hit one (dont recall its name)

[fringe quiver]

Just reapeting his feeling, didn't play zealot myelf

[scarlet wigeon]

Punishment. I use that on my twohand chainsword

[fringe quiver]

My buddy mains zealot since the beginning and his go to is Evi and flamer, sometimes bolter

[tawny cove]

Im running hammer flamer and its effective, played Zel from the first beta and still loving it

[gray geyser]

the kill 750 dregs (or scabs) with melee/ranged. do i need to kill them, or does my teammates kills count for me also?

[gusty thorn]

does the mutant specifically have to charge at me for the Abhor the Mutant penance?

[tawny cove]

Nope just has to be charging

[scarlet wigeon]

pretty sure you have to

[tawny coyote]

you need to

[gusty thorn]

Alright, thanks

[tawny cove]

Ngl I used a freak as bait to bonk it and get that one done

[arctic plover]

Fyi there is a tier 3 disruption mission live right now

go get your helmets gents

[echo root]

Wrong. Team kills count for you too

[gray geyser]

yeah i thought so, but i just earned it, didnt feel like all kills where mine

[gusty thorn]

yeah I'm waiting for my witch friend then

[scarlet wigeon]

I never got this PEN until i switched tried the hammer. I think the chainsword might take to long or not count when doing.

[tawny coyote]

really

[gusty thorn]

Also trying it with the hammer now, but I've been playing with it anyways. love that weapon

[tawny coyote]

i had two melee quest and i didnt think so

[scarlet wigeon]

I dont think it does either. I had mine done before my friend and we started at the same time

[echo root]

Asnogryn there is no way I have killed 750 scabs and dregs with range using only the gauntlet yet I was getting 100 kills for both per match.

[turbid dock]

I remember getting a completion when staring a medical so I think so

[scarlet wigeon]

maybe coherency counts toward it?

[echo root]

And I was playing with friends and we always got the same numbers on our kill contracts

[fringe quiver]

maybe tagging them counts, too?
I mean damaging

[echo root]

I just think it is shared

It us a co op game. It would be stupid if it isn't

I always play with 2 to 3 people I know tho so always in a strike team

[lofty bolt]

scabs and dregs make up most of the enemies you fight, it seems possible

[severe river]

"Warp Absorption
Replenish 10% Toughness when you kill an enemy with a Warp attack"

Ok wtf is a "Warp attack" ? I know theres force weapons and brain burst, but is warp attack just a category of these things?

[lofty bolt]

pretty sure it's any attack that generates warp charge

[echo root]

Well I doubt I would have the same numbers on ranged considering how many I don't get to dmg. I don't tend to hoot the gauntlet into hordes

[rapid ermine]

inb4 its just the psyker "grenade" 😄

[severe river]

fml

Its just bad wording imo

[lofty bolt]

not really

any attack that uses the warp

[tough cove]

The Surge Force staff is the palapatine power staff yes?

[vestal furnace]

Any attack that is warp based, in other words staves, BB, Force sword

[gray roost]

i guess i am in a bit of a situation, anyone knows how to fix this?

[full loom]

Sick. CTD'd halfway through a mission again and couldn't reconnect after.

[jagged scaffold]

never seen this trait on something thats not a revolver, intended?

[full loom]

Guess I'll wait till next patch before attempting another.

[pulsar egret]

2 same perks. Is it even work?

[scarlet wigeon]

1 type of mission "disruption" is currently not in rotation yet so its not possible to unlock this

[pulsar egret]

oh it's not the same srry

[gray roost]

it is in rotation

[tawny coyote]

its not same perk 1 give damage and one impact

[gray roost]

and i have finished 1 and 2 of it

[full loom]

Sand map is back in as of today

[robust pebble]

For "Just a Flesh Wound" is it specifically having LESS than one wound remaining (as in, having a little corruption on your last life bar,) or can you get it if you just go down once and then hide?

[tough cove]

Yes cause thunder hammer knocks everything down, 30%+ dmg everytime you knock em with the heavy charged

dmg bar kinda low actually

[pulsar egret]

is it worth buying with that low dmg tho

[scarlet wigeon]

Awesome didnt know that im going to go jump into one

[ocean osprey]

i've been converted to the MG XII

[tough cove]

I'd rather restore toughness on heavy or multiple hit

[pulsar egret]

ok

[worldly flame]

is there a way to see my ping to the server in-game?

[jagged scaffold]

doesn't seem to work, testing in training area

[finite vine]

Basically it's function is to deal with hordes for a good period of time, as long you can have your team taking care of other sides or if the horde is coming from just one way, they pretty much don't stand a chance unless there is ranged or full armored units supporting them.

[robust pebble]

Kills from teammates count. I’ve had eliminate contracts via ranged complete as a zealot who never fired a shot.

[jagged scaffold]

can confirm

[pallid echo]

do the rating on curios matter?

[gray geyser]

@finite vine@robust pebble ty for info

[proven hill]

@pallid echo I believe having a higher rating curios as well as other items like weapons, contribute to your overall rating. Your overall rating determines what rating loot you can get, wether from the store or getting lucky and getting a weapon from a mission. Good example would be the higher the rating of items in your inventory, the higher rating stuff in the store will be.

[pallid echo]

Ty, i didn't know that overall rating affects loot and store

[proven hill]

@pallid echo no problem, my buddies asked the other day so I had to do some research, glad I did cause I wasn’t sure before that tbh lol

[forest agate]

is it just me or is the cleaver the only decent attacking weapon for the ogryn (at least the only good one i've unlocked)

[burnt pendant]

Warp Flurry: "+-6% charge Rate on Chained Secondary Attack". Which is it? Or does it randomly modify the charge rate?

[orchid cove]

Whats the highest gearscore ?

[burnt pendant]

Some poeple swear by the shovel. Others say the shield is the only relevant weapon. Again others mock those people. It seems to be in a pretty good place, relative to each other, in which everything is kind of underwhelming.

[burnt pendant]

We can't be sure, but the best I've seen posted is 475 for an orange.

[orchid cove]

Ty bud

[frosty star]

I have watched Italian Spartacus video on cosmetics and penances
Where do you get the kill shots punishment uniform and kantrael mark 4 warden helm? The shop?

[worldly flame]

are ragers elite or specialists?

[cursive torrent]

elite

[sly fable]

highest theoretical possible is 560. highest ive seen is 506 tho.

[cursive torrent]

specialists are (i think) enemies like shooters

might be trappers/mutants/dogs as well

im not really sure

[cold moon]

The white part of your last health bar segment needs to be less than the outline shown for that segment. Going down then being revived will recover half your health. You want your toughness to break then let Zealot automatically use his feat to protect the remaining 1 HP which is when you hide for some minutes like 4-5. Then after that amount of time you can fight to death or suicide from falling over a ledge.

[cursive torrent]

these might be the specialists.

[spiral gale]

Is boltgun or lasgun better btw?

[silent dome]

depends what you want

[robust pebble]

Okay so if I’m understanding it right, you do not need to have corruption on your last wound, you just need to have less health than max on the final one? The penance made me think the corruption on the last bar was necessary

[silent dome]

lasgun is quicker on the draw, quicker reload, way more ammo, better for long range shooting, boltgun mulches crowds and tears down heavier targets up close, but is slow to take out and slow to reload with a small magazine size

[lofty bolt]

high str vs high dex

[cursive torrent]

yeah they are just different, lasguns are more efficient and kill most enemies just as well as bolters do. bolters are ammo hungry but there are no enemies it cant handle.

[lofty bolt]

especially against armour

[cold moon]

Corruption not needed. Just make the white color of your health bar decrease.

[robust pebble]

I’ll give it my best shot when I get home from work, thank you so much for clearing it up for me!

[inland pier]

Hey eveyone how long does it take for the weapon vendor to refresh?

[worldly flame]

dont you actually need to finish the mission (in less than 10 mins)?

[tawny coyote]

1 hour

[lofty bolt]

should say under the selection

[cold moon]

Nope, mission can be either on a loss or win.

[worldly flame]

ah so i need to convince other people to die with me?

[inland pier]

@lofty bolt @tawny coyote Thank you both 🤝

[cold moon]

@worldly flame @robust pebble If you want to cheese the penance: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z2i48a/is_the_just_a_flesh_wound_penance_possible/ixgjxsk/

[worldly flame]

god emperor protect me from temptation

[random mauve]

Did you figure out if it works. I tried it and couldn’t find a difference in my testing.

[bold bronze]

Anyone know if there are other melee weapons (than the blaze force) for Psyker that can quell?

[lucid arrow]

anyone got a malice disruption mission on their list of missions? been trying to get one from the timing out of current table missions

but its been rare

[bold bronze]

My understanding of it is that it was removed the first day of the beta because it was crashing really bad.

[lucid arrow]

I just did one a momment ago, and failed, its been re-added I believe

[tight cedar]

for difficulty 3 id lean towards the bolter, for difficulty 4 definitely the lasgun

[lucid arrow]

speak of the devil, I got one

[frosty star]

For the "make every shot count" penance it needs to be no ammo at all yes so no in clip and none in reserve

[tight cedar]

unless you're zealot in which case always bolter

[robust pebble]

If that’s the veteran one to have 100% accuracy and no ammunition remaining then yes, you can’t have any in reserve.

[cold moon]

Something about 1 pellet hitting a target is considered 100% accuracy so using a shotgun would give a guaranteed 100% accuracy regardless

[cerulean pelican]

The scanning hab mission seems considerably harder then the other missions, is it just me?

[silent dome]

who thought this was a good idea when your class literally regenerates ammo constantly

[bold bronze]

Just hit all your shots and also don't melee anything. No big deal.

[silent dome]

[normal tendon]

Oh boy it looks sick

[boreal quarry]

Just did relay station and there were snipers round every corner lol

[silent dome]

especially with the buggy hitreg, this challenge should prolly be nerfed a bit or something

[cold moon]

New head cosmetics in the game already?

[bold bronze]

Oh, lol, its 'if anyone kills an elite' within your coherency....nevermind, you're fucked.

[silent dome]

yep

[quick veldt]

Does zealot flamethrower still unlock Make Every Shot Count?

[cold moon]

oh shiii

[silent dome]

doesnt the challenge say "As a Sharpshooter," tho

[torn vector]

Why can’t we ping whilst captured, that’s a dumb mechanic to remove

[quick veldt]

No.

[torn vector]

Might as well give us something to do or the ability to tell them our position

[robust pebble]

Flamethrower is zealot exclusive. That’s a veteran penance

[quick veldt]

I know, but people were unlocking it on zealot.

Didn't know if it was patched yet. Probably is.

[silent dome]

o shit

then maybe yeah you could do it as a zealot with a flamer or shotgun/stub revolver

[quick veldt]

I'm going to try it now.

[silent dome]

how tf is accuracy calculated with the flamer though

[bold bronze]

Flamer is so ammo efficient though if you are tap firing...and if you don't tap fire then the spray will potentially "miss" by killing everything. I don't think it would be good even if it was an option.

[frosty star]

No clue lol it's the only one I got left to do so was just making sure I understood it correctly

[silent dome]

oh for the one where you hit 5 special enemy weakspots on heresy, when it says "designated enemies" if you have the perk that marks stuff like scab shooters do they count

[sleek light]

I feel like that's half the point with the penance personally

[pseudo rock]

any clue anyone?

[frosty star]

Yes they do

[silent dome]

oh wow

thats good then

once I get to level 30 ill be able to get that penance done in literally 5 seconds

[sleek light]

Not sure what you're asking exactly but I wouldn't upgrade anything until I've hit level 30 since you'll need the mats more then

[frosty star]

Yeah it's actually pretty easy one of the balanced ones TBH, that being said the 100% ammo one says complete a mission but not win. So if I hit all my shots then my team just loses that should count yeah?

Cause it works that way for the zealot one where you complete it in under ten minutes

[sleek light]

You go through weapons left and right anyway up until that point so I would say it's more worth to save the mats

[pseudo rock]

it wont upgrade.. it keeps saying unable to perform operation

[sleek light]

Ah, I heard some other people having this issue with the hammer yesterday so it might be related to that

[finite vine]

Thunderhammer apparently is the only weapon currently bugged for that system 🥹

[silent dome]

doesnt complete a mission mean well... completing the mission?

I mean we can test this out if you want

[pseudo rock]

😭

[spice sigil]

This worth keeping?

[silent dome]

fuck man been looking for one exactly like this

yea I'd keep that

[spice sigil]

sprint eff bit of a dead stat but otherwise this a good roll then?

[robust pebble]

The stopping power is a little slacking but that blessing is top tier

[silent dome]

high damage best +40% weak spot damage is nuts

[spice sigil]

What is stopping power exactly

[boreal quarry]

youll be able to change that once the blessing thing gets put in

[robust pebble]

Literally provided the best one you can have on that if paired with a veteran

[frosty star]

Funnily enough for the zealot one it doesn't it says complete a mission in under ten minutes on malice plus which is basically impossible

So you meet all the reqs in under ten minutes then just have the team lose and it procs it for the zealot

[silent dome]

lmao

I mean I'd be down to try it for ya right now

if you help me get the no melee damage taken one (where I just dc right before extract and come back

[frosty star]

I'm at work RN so not gonna be possible sorry

[spice sigil]

Sprint eff is a perk though the bottom ones are the blessings. do we know if we will be able to change the perks

[cerulean pelican]

I think it's stagger chance

[silent dome]

damn, rip

[boreal quarry]

Ah you are correct, well at least when upgrading youll get new ones 🙂

Plus running always good, can outrun a sploder lol

[spice sigil]

damn sploders. bane of my grimoire runs

[boreal quarry]

As shieldgryn, trappers are my bane

[shadow sluice]

is there a way to not crash every 2 minutes during the disruption mission?

[boreal quarry]

the sneaky ones who come round a corner, or huddle ina pack while I'm holding things at bay

[fringe pagoda]

Is it just me, or is the level 30 trait to designate scab gunners as specials not . . . working? at least its not granting the duration reset on kills?

[spice sigil]

wait disruption is here??

[boreal quarry]

yeah one mission is on

I did the endless horde malice and had about 40 snipers to beware

[spice sigil]

niceee, just need espionage back now for my helmet

[spice sigil]

oh damn

[silent dome]

wait seriously? thats messed up

[full loom]

So Windows has put out a notice about their latest patch for Windows 11 stating they are aware the latest patch has caused performance issues in games and game-related apps.

"Some games and apps might experience lower than expected performance or stuttering on Windows 11, version 22H2. Affected games and apps are inadvertently enabling GPU performance debugging features not meant to be used by consumers."

Good old Windows....

[limpid walrus]

Any psykers wanna team up for Out With A Bang?

[open cargo]

Damn

Thanks to the Disruption mission I guess

[whole nebula]

yeah I've noticed that, are you also trying it for the penance?

[fringe pagoda]

Yeah, it's been a nightmare.

[whole nebula]

I've gotten 4, honestly I'm just expecting to accidentally do it the amount of heresy I've been doing

still trying my darndest to do make every shot count

[grizzled ocean]

Okay this is the last one I have to do but like... any tips. I'm using a plasgun but would there be a better weapon, or is there any strat that might help?

[fringe pagoda]

I think I need to move back down Malice. Heresy is still kicking my ass.

[grizzled ocean]

It does work

the cooldown doesn't reset tho

but the headshots do count towards the penance

[fringe pagoda]

Well then I'm just a terrible terrible aim.

[nocturne condor]

go with a premade, use a revolver for the lowest ammo, shoot all shots as fast as possible, everyone jump off the side to end mission, completed

[grizzled ocean]

cause it's how I just did it a bit ago. Yeah the weak points are.. wacky

[bold bronze]

People have apparently been cheesing it with a premade lobby, where you alt+f4 at the end of the mission with 1 ammo left and just reconnect instantly giving you a reset accuracy--hit the last shot and you win.

[whole nebula]

no way you can die and that counts right?

[grizzled ocean]

wait.. fr..?

[nocturne condor]

completed mission includes failing it

[grizzled ocean]

like this one makes sense but..

wait shit no way..

[whole nebula]

@grizzled ocean do you fancy trying it with me?

[grizzled ocean]

YES

[open cargo]

Where would be the best map for this one? I've been trying for days

[nocturne condor]

hell I'll join you too

[tight cedar]

im up for the attempt as well lul

[fringe pagoda]

Do you have a gun you recommend for the 5 headshots one?

[whole nebula]

strike team 11?

[grizzled ocean]

I used the Krieg gun

[grizzled ocean]

pog

[swift nova]

Anyone got any tips on how to get the "Just a Flesh Wound" penance for preacher? Gotta complete heresy or higher and be at 1 wound for more than 75% of the game

[nocturne condor]

same as the one for the sharpshooter

get hurt, wait, and then wipe

[spice sigil]

Train station boss, at the elevator before boss room. hope a sniper spawns then chuck from elevator

[chrome thunder]

did i just didn't complete 1 type of mission or there is only 6 in beta

[fringe pagoda]

Thanks, that's one of my favorites. Did yout ake the trait that drains stam for reduced sway and crit change? I'm starting to suspect that one might be a bit of a trap?

[silent dome]

is it possible to host a private lobby

[fringe pagoda]

chance* not change.

[spice sigil]

espionage, i need it too

Is the constant endless horde on heresy fixed yet?

[fringe pagoda]

The espionage mission is back in the rotation. Saw it earlier this morning.

[swift nova]

U sure that's a bug? 😅

[fringe pagoda]

Although it's not up right at this moemnt.

[spice sigil]

cheers, ill keep an eye out

[spice sigil]

beginning to believe its to slow progress in beta

[arctic kelp]

anyone know what's defined as a salvo? https://gyazo.com/20be058e6d63d6fa6ed0a079aa3b087c

[swift nova]

Wow
That's a gun

[spice sigil]

think iys just your mag

[arctic kelp]

Just the first shot in the mag, huh?

[elfin hill]

this any good?

[inland imp]

Disruption mission i back?

[spice sigil]

yup

[swift nova]

No no it's terrible, so terrible in fact, you should just give it to me

[inland imp]

I dont see any :c

[open cargo]

Yup. For a brief moment at least

[elfin hill]

@swift nova lmao

[spice sigil]

I just did it so itll be back round

[inland imp]

Okay, what does the symbol look like?

[keen cedar]

what exactly is power

[ornate gazelle]

What does rending do on weapons?

[elfin hill]

is espionage back aswell?

[open cargo]

Like this

[inland imp]

Nice, thanks!

[normal tendon]

Honestly its just luck, just play on higher difficulties if you can, preferably with a pre made who know you're doing it.

The smelter final event is really nice for it.

[grave ocean]

Just got my first power sword as a veteran

What does this baby do

[bold bronze]

Theres 2 forms. Theres the "baseline" power...think of it as the power of a grey rarity item. This power acts as points that are split up between the different bars to determine the capabilities of the weapon. Then there are "enchantments" power...every property or 'blessing' on the weapon adds to the item power count, so it can be hard to tell what "baseline" power a blue or purple item might have.

[rare cliff]

Is espionage back today?

I dont see it on the mission screen

[spiral gale]

Between the 3 lasgun types, which is rhe best?
Lucius, kantrael or accatran?

I rlly like mowing stuff down wif accatran but is there anyway to up its dmg?

[keen cedar]

ok i have pinning fire on my bolter it says +17.5% power on stagger is that more damage

[spice sigil]

This accuracy penance is hard enough without the damn endless hordes

[grave ocean]

Spend all ammo?

[bold bronze]

You can go into the Meatgrinder to test it out. Basically, its a normal-ish sword until you hit the zappy button...then you can get ~2 swings of way more power at the expense of being a bit vulnerable while you are activating it.

[spice sigil]

Ive been told its an all around buff to dmg, stopping power etc>

[spice sigil]

yup

[fathom crag]

Are Flash missions ever coming back?

[mighty seal]

Did they make it so you can't use the flamer during the preacher penance "up close and personal"?

[bold bronze]

My bad on that--its really hard to tell which "power" people are talking about sometimes since theres like 3 different potential uses.

[silent dome]

damn I just cleaved so many enemies the game crashed

nice

[full loom]

cleaved your game

[silent dome]

cleaved right through the engine itself

is there any way to reconnect

[spice sigil]

ye

[keen cedar]

so like tldr is more damage

[silent dome]

oh good

[full loom]

there should be, though I couldn't after I crashed to desktop

[silent dome]

I ctd'd but the prompt came up

[spice sigil]

should be first thing you see in operater selection

[silent dome]

thats nice

[frosty star]

Does anyone know if you do "make every shot count" do you have to beat the mission or no.

Because it says complete and it makes me think to the zealot one where it says complete in under ten minutes but you don't actually have to beat it.

So if I meet the requirements then the team just loses will it count?

[inland imp]

Disruption mission up.

[bold bronze]

For ranged weapons...yea, basically just damage and maybe some stagger. For melee it should be able to also affect cleave and definitely stagger.

[strong jewel]

Does it make any sense to upgrade weapons before hitting level 30?

[chrome thunder]

is this mission out yet?

[bold bronze]

Its more like "before getting to max item power".

[fleet garden]

does anyone know what the special for vets shotgun does? All it does it load one shell

[sick warren]

Explosive round

[fleet garden]

ahh ty

[sick warren]

Ye np

Wondering that too when I first loaded it xd

[strong jewel]

Alright, let's put it the other way around.
When should one start upgrading their weapons, without it being a waste of materials?)

[cerulean pelican]

Anyone know what shredding armour does numbers wise

[sterile beacon]

The special shot shoots in a horizontal line instead of a cone.

[spice sigil]

yup its in rotation

[pallid echo]

How are plasma guns? I have yet to use one yet

[open cargo]

Is consecration working as it should? I read something about it being bugged for certain classes

[sick warren]

From what I've seen, they're strong but can overheat

[cursive torrent]

ludicrously powerful, but kind of hard to use well

[spice sigil]

Is % cleave on hit cleave targets or dmg?

or both

[sick warren]

Might be both

[normal tendon]

honestly hard to say right now

[silent dome]

ok I really need to stop pug-ing

[sick warren]

Would make sense for it be both

[normal tendon]

We know so little of the mechanics of the game

[silent dome]

these are some of the worst pugs I've ever had in any game ever

I'd rather play with bots but the game wont let me do that for some reason

[spice sigil]

this has been ridiculously good, keeping it until i find a higher with same blessing

[sick warren]

Yea

That's pretty strong

I want to use thunder hammer but has no cleave on it :C

[spice sigil]

sprint eff always finds its way into my weps tho haha

[frosty star]

Do we have all types of missions now? And if so what are they

[vital relic]

is there a way to get more precision out of the sensitive setting ? (instead of going for 0.3 to 0.4 i want 0.33

[cursive torrent]

im happy with mine so far. i just hope like hel it gets another decent blessing.

slaughterer would be insane

[spice sigil]

Strike, raid, espionage, investigation, assassination erm i cant remember the rest

[sick warren]

Disruption just came out

[spice sigil]

With slaughterer that would be godly

[cursive torrent]

disruption and the scanning one

[sick warren]

Investigation

[cursive torrent]

oh he said that

[sick warren]

Repair

[cursive torrent]

yeup

[spice sigil]

repair! yeah

[cursive torrent]

and the as yet unseen Flash mission

[sick warren]

And I believe there should be more missions coming this week

[cursive torrent]

which i hope is just a "go in and kill em all" mission tbh

we need some of those

[frosty star]

So we are just missing flash then?

[little coyote]

Ogryn bleed feat is pretty funny

[sudden finch]

Hey anyone know if loading my account on another PC will have my dudes on there?

[arctic kelp]

https://gyazo.com/6bb9fd9a163ca4214e646d6fa4539103
God. Damnit.

[sudden finch]

I'm assuming stuff is account bound, right?
(Not PC bound)

[sick warren]

AY VYX

[arctic kelp]

I cant afford it :C

I have no way of affording it, that feels really bad

[sick warren]

Oh

rip

Now if that was a chain sword

Put that on a heavy evis and we golden

[loud egret]

anyone got zealot build advice?

[cursive torrent]

thats gnarly. the rating is a bit low but those blessings make up for it completely

i had this one in melks shop a few days ago

[arctic kelp]

yeah, it'd be perfect for vet, clearing hordes is what that sword is for, purely

[sick warren]

Do you want single target or mult Crab?

[loud egret]

errrrr idl?

idk even

[sick warren]

Think I'm using 3-2-2-2-2-3

[loud egret]

I know i want to use the Evis

because big chainsword go brrr

[sick warren]

I'm using heavy evis

My man

[slender juniper]

yo is that mission only on malice or higher?
i've been waiting for a while for it to be on uprising or something

[vital relic]

is there a file where i can edit the sensitivity to my liking ?

[sick warren]

Build would be even better if zealot charge wasn't bugged

[loud egret]

oof, its bugged?

[sick warren]

Yea

The tooltip says it refills all of your toughness

But it only restores half

Or 50?

[sullen flame]

Really wish they would fix "Up Close and Personal" you shouldn't have to rng getting into a completely fresh lobby

[dire ridge]

tooltip is outdated

[sick warren]

Oh rip

It won't refill full bar then?

[long wolf]

anyone know how to do the 70 metres in bull rush? i have the double distance skill but it still doesnt work

[topaz condor]

So I just started a Psyker yesterday and want to start tackling the penances, what's the best ways to get the pox hound one and the cliff hanger penances?

[topaz dawn]

valkyres are driven by ghosts? XD

[loud egret]

I think you need the talent that gives you bonus recharge speed

and you basically need 2 charges in that timeframe

so you need your team to be whalloping elites

[long wolf]

that's gonna be a pain

[loud egret]

i.e. charge, they kill elites, charge again

yeah

gigapain

[limpid walrus]

Anyone down to help me out with Out With a Bang?

[cerulean pelican]

Build a social life from scratch and make your friends help you whilst having a couple of beers

[dire ridge]

modern problems require modern solutions

[topaz condor]

Getting a group is not as much of an problem, I'm mostly asking the WAY you're supposed to do it, like how do I push 20 peeps off a cliff? The ultimate ability? Or a specific staff?

With pox hound I'm unsure the exact timing, is it when it jumps at someone?

Like mid air?

[patent sapphire]

so I've got a 409 blue melee and a 420 blue ranged weapon but all the stuff in my shop is not coming in above 400, have i hit a soft cap or a bug or am i supposed to do something different to get higher rated stuff now?

[rare cliff]

Heresy still bugged?

[dire ridge]

i think it's just random

[slender epoch]

any way to cheese friends will be friends penance for Ogryn?

[vital obsidian]

Is there a difference between scab and tox flamers

Other than the color of flame

[cerulean pelican]

Yeah, one of them is 10x more dangerous because you think it's a friendly zealot

[lone flower]

Is there a possibility to disable the intro videos...i have so much crashes per map it would increase the rejoin speed

[dire ridge]

you can skip them with esc

[lone flower]

i know, but its annoying and is additional time

[patent sapphire]

dang, it's been a few resets since i've seen anything above 400

[limpid walrus]

Anyone have tips for out with a bang?

[tough cove]

what does soulblaze do?

pretty useless tooltip if I'm not told what soulblaze does

[sullen flame]

It does soulblaze obvs

[cerulean pelican]

It blazes their souls.

[little coyote]

dot damage

[tough cove]

like 420 style?

[tough cove]

Like bleed or stronger / longer?

[cerulean pelican]

Warhammer 420K

[little coyote]

afaik it's a decently powerful but not too long

[dire ridge]

can't you just test that in the psykhanium?

[shrewd pendant]

420 is probably the max for blues

[little coyote]

I think it kills poxwalkers with the burn

[slender epoch]

is it just to play or is it like actually new shit in there

[solid snow]

Is there any certainty as to what a "maniac" is for weapon damage?

[little coyote]

ragers

[cerulean pelican]

Struggling to find a reason not o use the shield and the grenadier gauntlet as ogryn. The guns great and the melee attacks count as heavy for bleed, and the shield just negates any risky ranged shit. Any reason to use anything else?

[dire ridge]

ragers flamers trappers

[solid snow]

thnx

[patent sapphire]

they are asking people with specific crashes and errors to play it because they have extra logging in it

[sonic quail]

How does bleed works?
I feel like it could be a good support feat as ogryn

[slender epoch]

aye, Cleaver is best for horde clearing, ripper gun for killin n' surpressing

[lapis raven]

rumbler is fun too

i've been killing snipers with just the projectile impact

never mind the stagger the rumbler puts out

[little coyote]

the ogryn's bleed is pretty powrful against bulwarks and other unyielding enemies, decent against monsters too I think

[dire ridge]

boiz do we know when more content is coming?

[sonic quail]

Thanks for the confirmation, I felt like 50% less damage was good but the toughness boost is already doing good ig

[pale musk]

just got the on overwatch archivement the dumbest way possible

[sonic quail]

Thanks!

[lapis raven]

do all the weapon-swing attacks count as heavy melee?

[little coyote]

that's on Heresy difficulty without much thinking put into the build

[dire ridge]

so daemonhost is probably today or tomorrow

[little coyote]

seems like it

[wild gazelle]

Looking for 3 mates for Cliffhanger penance

[lapis raven]

that's really good to know, ogryn ranged weapon swings are pretty good

[tawny cove]

Does anyone know if the cheese for "just a fleshwound" still works or did they patch it?

[misty marten]

Is there a push to talk key for controller?

[vital relic]

is there any way to add a second decibel number in the games sensitivity settings after 0.3?

[pale musk]

guys when im doing randommission, does it give me one of the available ones i can already see or one truly random mission?

[past shale]

What exactly does the emperor protects from?

[pale musk]

furries

[flint stone]

Does anyone know if the really bad currency system will change to where it shares across characters?

[sage glacier]

is Voidstrike staff only good vs hordes?

[marble hinge]

Has anyone who got the Twitch drop Lasgun skin been able to use it in game? If so which las gun were you able to put it on?

[wanton tapir]

I recall them saying those would be available on the 30th

Like the other stuff from the imperial edition

[tacit hull]

does the "up close and personal" penance still work with the flamethrower? Or do I need to do the mission from the beginning to the end (not quickplay, not disconnect)

(preacher, complete a mission on malice without firing a shot)

[past tree]

does anyone else get the error 2003 every 5 minutes?

[thorny whale]

Do chain weapons proc bleed? Is there a list of all the things that cause bleed?

[tacit hull]

nope

[tacit hull]

I did

[marble hinge]

You have the skin in game? Which las gun does it work on?

[mental relic]

2003, 2007, internal error, lobby error, you name it. ive seen it

[past tree]

in 41st millenium there is only connection errors

[tacit hull]

Kantrael MG Ia Infantry Lasgun

at least on that model

[marble hinge]

That's odd, I have the drop according to Twitch, but don't have anything in game.

[worldly flame]

any idea why my preachers Until Death activates when a bot goes to 1 hp? this gotta be a bug right?

[jagged vigil]

questions

[tacit hull]

Demon possession, chaos gods and such. If you mind if filled with only the emperor, there is nothing left for the demon to get into

[jagged vigil]

It is good vs hordes and deals reasonable damage and stagger vs specials, if you spam it. Also it has some sort of auto-aim or AoE explosion range, so it is relatively easy to hit stationary far enemies (snipers).
Not sure how it works on higher difficulties, as I haven't played on heresy and further.

[elfin hill]

got a full set of orange curio now

[jagged vigil]

I hope devs would buff Trauma staff, as I like how it works visually, but it is very weak in comparison to others.

[tiny granite]

how do you wave clear with combat knife

[worn relic]

[rigid wasp]

With your flamer

[tiny granite]

fair nuff

[floral quail]

Horde clearing ranged weapons

🤮

Where's your Ogryn?

[rigid wasp]

All you need is 4 veterans spamming 60 second grenades

my items seem to have capped out at like 419/413 and now everything in the shop for the last 4 days have been like 405 or lower. Why isn't it going any higher?

Because you need to get grey items and craft the shit out of them

Get a 350-400 grey

It's diablo 2 all over