gameplay-help

[unreal aurora]

The first one, bodyguard I believe

[fresh void]

Thank you very much ^^

[heavy shuttle]

I do, from time to time.

[queen moth]

whats the point of doing heresy at max?

[formal atlas]

Nice, good to know😁

[lone flower]

i have every 2nd map ....

[spiral thorn]

The combat blade has either higher innate crit rate or attacks so fast it doesnt matter as i was able to keep almost 100 percent uptime of the zealots level 5 talent that activates on crit with zero crit related perks

[heavy shuttle]

Difficulty 4 and 5?

[queen moth]

4

[heavy shuttle]

Better mat drop, more of a challenge. Best xp grind is still 1s and 2s.

[feral gust]

TIL The boltgun isn't for long range targets. ... ... I suppose I'm not Astartes.

[heavy shuttle]

What class?

[bitter summit]

same reason why you play diff 2 instead of 1 , or 3 instead of 2

[feral gust]

sharpshooter and zealot

[heavy shuttle]

Anyone but veteran tends to ditch the bolter. Vet gets some nice feats to stabilize. I haven't had any difficulty pulling off long shots from a crouched position.

'Deadshot'.

[spice sigil]

What is impact on melee weps?

[heavy shuttle]

I hear flamer for zealots is a fun time.

[balmy basin]

Flamer is really good

[zenith scroll]

hey all, has anybody have any idea how to fix problem 2007?

[feral gust]

I mean, will it hit a 1.5 millimeter moving "bomber" across a bridge the other side of the map?
Lasguns will.

[heavy shuttle]

Its a known issue for devs. Folks have been getting great results by using a VPN.

[zenith scroll]

any known free vpn? 🙂

[heavy shuttle]

I can help you out with vet's but thats about it. Im a one trick pony.

[spice sigil]

nah

[lime imp]

Meta doesnt matter while leveling

[balmy basin]

Free VPNs have data limit

[heavy shuttle]

I dont know if NordVPN is free but its one that I've used with good results.

[lime imp]

Unless ur doin 4man speed stuff

[balmy basin]

It's not relevant until endgame anyways

With weapon passives

[sour flower]

easiest way to get the 100% accuracy with no ammo left penance?

[teal kernel]

chainaxe enjoyers out here

[heavy shuttle]

Low ammo count weapons like plasma or revolver. Go full zealot afterward.

[smoky ferry]

For weapon perks, what constitutes a maniac?

[sour flower]

alright thank you

[heavy shuttle]

Ragers, I think?

[smoky ferry]

Cool, that's what I'm hoping for

[balmy basin]

Range can be whatever but we get Thunder Hammer and Eviscerator

[thorn imp]

thunder hammer blows

[balmy basin]

I go with Thunder Hammer

[heavy shuttle]

Moving bomber? Yeah probably with shot 2 or 3. But I would just wait for that bomber to stop moving when he goes to throw.

[teal kernel]

i mean 1/4 healthing a plague ogryn's pretty baller

[balmy basin]

Yeah, Thunder Hammer almost does 50% of a Plague Ogryn's health

[heavy shuttle]

Theres some lead/lag with ranged for moving targets. Dont know if thats a lag issue or a built in thing.

[balmy basin]

With Chastise the Wicked

[thorn imp]

its got no cleave though

[balmy basin]

Huh?

It does cleave

[thorn imp]

does the chargeup cleave?

[balmy basin]

Yes

[thorn imp]

mustve gotten fixed since 2 days ago

[cursive torrent]

I think the mutants count as well. When you shoot them the hitbox type is listed as “dreg rager”. Possibly to make this perk work on them?

[feral gust]

PoxWalkers are Cyberpunk2077-Cops in a previous life: teleporting behind you in an open map

[little stream]

who cares it's not a chain axe

[thorn imp]

theres even posts about it online not cleaving and being a total letdown

[balmy basin]

Interesting

I got mine two days ago

[heavy shuttle]

Huh. Didnt know mutants counted for that, interesting. Further testing is required on my end.

[feral gust]

Chainsword > Thunderhammer: only disdvantage is it can't defeat a shield-ogryn

[little stream]

axe you git

[balmy basin]

Eviscerator has too long of an animation

[heavy shuttle]

Does the chainsword lock the zealot in place as it does the vet?

[balmy basin]

Yeah

[storm laurel]

you don't need to wait for the activation animation

[feral gust]

true: but soo much more damage

[heavy shuttle]

Yikes, when I see yall in the mosh pit yall are usually in, I would want to be as mobile as possible.

[balmy basin]

Does it do more damage? I've yet to test it on the Psykhanium

[storm laurel]

the only thing that you can't attack during the startup is the thunder hammer

[little stream]

axe does more damage than both

[rich smelt]

It is bigger, you know

[storm laurel]

against hordes 100%

activated heavy can cut a few in half

[feral gust]

thunderhammer should have been given AOE stagger

[little stream]

if i see you with a thunder hammer in heresy i just assume you're going to die to a horde at some point

[balmy basin]

I mean for elite

[storm laurel]

activated thunderhammer should just get insane amounts of cleave

[storm laurel]

it's a chain weapon so yeah it's really good at that

heavies always get a bit of tearing in them

so you don't always need to activate

[restive tulip]

a picture of the boarding party helm as someone requested

[storm laurel]

but it's very quick to activate

[balmy basin]

I'll see if I can one shot

[long imp]

Oh, like, in-game

[wide granite]

I don't know about hammer but this oneshots Crushers on Malice on charge crit

[storm laurel]

none of the helmets are showing up for me

[restive tulip]

oh i'm too poor lmao

[wide granite]

Or just two revved up hits

[storm laurel]

got damn

[long imp]

oooof, understnadable

[restive tulip]

are you trying to go for the guardsman color scheme too?

[heavy shuttle]

I thought it was easier to do the achievement than to grind up all the cash for store sold helms.

[severe river]

Is there any reason why i cant upgrade my weapon at the smith?

[storm laurel]

need materials

[long imp]

Yup, I am

[severe river]

Just says "unable to perform action"

I have 4x the materials

[potent epoch]

Let me guess, Thunder Hanmer?

[severe river]

Yup

[daring zephyr]

best way to get ogryn heavyweight penance?

[potent epoch]

Bugged rn, not a single TH can be upgraded

[severe river]

fml

[uncut verge]

Which T3 Vet Feat do people take?

[fading orbit]

is there a trick to the surge staff or is it just underwhelming?

[storm laurel]

bio optic

grenade on kill is bugged I think and the other one is lacking

[heavy shuttle]

They generally suck.

Bio-optics doesn't really work out well for me, unless Im in a multi-vet team. Situational.

Demolition Team is worded wrong. Its after 20 elite kills you get a grenade from what people were saying. That.... sucks.

Covering Fire- 10% toughness for allies in melee range is what I use. Its nice for helping out with horde clearing with lasgun.

[umbral glade]

hers a question for those that play diff 4 and 5... what's the typical/max amount of diamante yall find on those difficulties?
diff 3 is mostly 45 diamante consists of 1 large and 2 smol

[queen moth]

what lvl do u get power sword and auto lasgun?

[rich smelt]

#theorycrafting message

[storm laurel]

got my power sword at 18

[heavy shuttle]

I got PS around 25ish. Recon dropped at around 10ish.

[whole nebula]

don't suppose there's any kind souls who could give me a hand with make every shot?

[rich smelt]

That reminds me that I've seen a Zealot wearing a Thunder Hammer at 12 while I unlocked it at 25+

[dapper turret]

Also, heads up, your voice chat is disabled by default

you can enable it in the audio options.

[somber pewter]

i am living in hell trying to get 100 acc

[heavy shuttle]

Have you tried using a low ammo count weapon like plasma or revolver?

[somber pewter]

wont show up in the shop lmao

[feral gust]

powersword ; pretty early on.. 8? It's random
lasgun immediately.

[somber pewter]

so im using a shotty

[blissful python]

Does shooting your team mate count for accuracy or no?

[lone flower]

3 crashes in 1 mission, new record....

[balmy basin]

3 is generous

[blissful python]

The answer is no

team mates don't count for hits

sadge

[junior oriole]

Had a fellow Ogryn that I assume kept crashing cos they left and rejoined 3 or 4 times. We waited right at the end lift, holding off the horde until they rejoined

[nimble kettle]

Has anyone run into an issue where requisitorium tasks don’t register progress?

[storm laurel]

is there a prerequisite to get helmets in the shop

[balmy basin]

Nope

[storm laurel]

just getting unlucky then

none have showed up

[balmy basin]

What's your trust level?

[storm laurel]

25

[balmy basin]

Unlucky then

[storm laurel]

maybe they only show up at 30

[somber pewter]

i hate zealots that use fire also

cant see nothing

[rich smelt]

I got my helmet at 29, also you have to unlock the helmet to see it

[slow fog]

I think you need a helmet first?

[balmy basin]

Don't be in front of the fire then

[junior oriole]

Ogryn born with noggin for elmet

[somber pewter]

their always in the back so i have to be in the front

[hidden burrow]

it wont let me upgrade, am i missing something?

[balmy basin]

They shouldn't be playing zealot if they're gonna be in the backline

[balmy basin]

Bugged

[inland cipher]

No. Fatshark is aware and fixing

[balmy basin]

Thunder Hammer cannot be upgraded

[hidden burrow]

ty

[dense moat]

tis broken, sire

[rich smelt]

Known bug with Thunder Hammer

[balmy basin]

Alright but seriously, does anyone how the HP gained is calculated for the Holy Revenant perk?

[inland cipher]

Anyone else tryng to get the less than 10 minute zealot shirt?

[balmy basin]

Feels like it's bugged

[lone flower]

aaaaand 4th crash in 1 mission

[balmy basin]

See if you can beat my record

[lone flower]

which is?

[balmy basin]

7

[lone flower]

oh wow

good pc?

[balmy basin]

Yeah

Although they stopped recently

[rare cliff]

Are boxes capped at 750??

[somber pewter]

hitting an ally means no 100 accuracy right?

[balmy basin]

Pretty much

[somber pewter]

this is cancer

[inland cipher]

If the round went through the ally and hit something. you're still good

[somber pewter]

using a shot gun so no chance

[inland cipher]

Best option is revolver

[somber pewter]

if only they appeared to me in the shop

[inland cipher]

Yes

[tight shale]

Yes.

[jagged plover]

what are clasified as Elites

[balmy basin]

Enemies that you can tag

[jagged plover]

alright ty

[plush kayak]

What is Enemy hit mass? there is a bunch of perks that specify ignoring it

[somber pewter]

not true

elites are like gunners and ogryns

[balmy basin]

You can tag those

[somber pewter]

because theres also specialists

not shooters the heavy gunner guys

[umbral glade]

ehhh which of the zelot have the line "skull for the throne"?

[jagged plover]

so boys without CC

[hot vector]

I can't even login because of a backend error

[balmy basin]

"Skull for the golden throne" is from Judge

[inland cipher]

The very Scottish one

[somber pewter]

i dont really remember but if you go into the training thing you can look at them

[balmy basin]

Oh nvm

The Fanatic

Then

Yeah that adds up

[sleek light]

is there any way I can check what mission I'm missing when I have 6/7 on the penance?

[balmy basin]

You're missing Investigation

It was a mission type that was removed

[sleek light]

I did it before so I doubt it

[balmy basin]

Oh

You did the sand map?

Wait not investigation

[uncut verge]

Not Investigation, we have that one

[balmy basin]

Sorry, Disruption

Brain farted

[sleek light]

Hm, could be that one

[balmy basin]

Disruption was only available on day one

[uncut verge]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-fart-gif-24394770

[spice sigil]

can someone list the 7 mission types for my, Im stuck at 5/7 I know disruption isnt in but i cant think wha the 6th is

[lilac talon]

You guys think this is worth it?

[somber pewter]

follow up, does shooting bulwarks shield count as missing???

[sleek light]

Assassination, Strike, Raid, Repair, Investigation, Disruption and some other I don't recall

[balmy basin]

Disruption, Assassination, Investigation, Raid, Strike, Espionage, and Repair

[spice sigil]

ahh espionage!

thats not in rotation right now either is it

[wet magnet]

I can’t play the game because of error 2001

😃

[balmy basin]

Nope, haven't seen it

[somber pewter]

but its 2022

[balmy basin]

VPN heard it fixes it

[spiral thorn]

When we start getting new careers for our lovable goon squad, what 40k lore would people like to see pulled from?

[inland cipher]

I still need Disruption and Investigation

[somber pewter]

id love to see a tanith ghost or a kaserkin

for vet

[inland cipher]

Catachan wannabe\

[spiral thorn]

Tanith with a legit sniper rifle would be cool

[restive tulip]

does anyone know if the Kantrael MG XII lasgun has any penetration through enemies? can't find one to test

[spice sigil]

Will the Lucius skins change the iron sights anyone know?

[bitter summit]

does chainswords apply bleed?

[spiral thorn]

Catachan is so popular its practically not allowed to not be in the game

[full loom]

Hi all, just wondering if there's a way I can get my weapon power up, without using the forge. I'm a level 30 Vet, my highest scoring weapon is a purple Tactical Axe with 427 power, but all shop scores are <390 95% of the time

[inland cipher]

Thats the power creep. Blues can't go too high

[spice sigil]

weekly shop mabye

[balmy basin]

Melk's Acquisitions are your best bet

[spice sigil]

well daily shop, weekly currency

[inland cipher]

Sometimes you'll get lucky and see a couple in the 410 range

[full loom]

Aight bet

[jaunty panther]

Is the 15 mission completion quest but ? i'm sure i did at least 6 of them and got awarded only 2

[brazen shoal]

guys what different type of lasguns are there?

[spiral thorn]

Bullgryn is an easy pick, give ogryn an alternate slab shield that pairs with the gauntlet, a smaller shield and some aggro related skill. Id assume its base skills would include a block related skill

[inland cipher]

Charge up with bayonet, Rapid fire, and semi auto

[brazen shoal]

thx

[stable thistle]

is diamantine also a random drop in missions? and is there a difficulty requirement to see em?

[long imp]

Asking again: But does anyone own the Navis Imperialis Boarding Party Helmet?

[quasi pelican]

Is there any reason not to overcharge the plasma gun? I'm in the meat grinder so I don't know if that protects me from damage

[restive tulip]

Semi-auto Kantrael lasguns (3 variants in Fast, Medium, and Heavy)
Charge-shot bayonet Lucius lasguns (also 3 variants)
Full-auto bullpup Accatran lasguns (also 3 variants)
and 1 Laspistol :)

[somber pewter]

you get a 399 or maybe higher with perks you like and take it to the forge

[long imp]

And can anyone post a pic of it, very curious

[quasi pelican]

Does the overheat hurt you?

[blissful python]

yeah

[brazen shoal]

thank you!

[blissful python]

like plasma venting you mean

[arctic plover]

overcharge can kill you and the Venting** does do damage in a live game if you hold the button.

[quasi pelican]

Ok

[full loom]

I did that last night. Funniest way to kill 3 ragers

[quasi pelican]

So avoid it in a live game unless you'll die anyways?

[spiral thorn]

What weapons overheat?

[whole nebula]

If no one answers: It probably means no.

[arctic plover]

you can hit 100% just dont try to push it past that, you can hit the wep special ability to start the venting process quicker before you switch to melee if you got the time. Also I beleive the only one that has the mechanic is the plasma gun.

[full loom]

It's the same helmet as the one you get from the first Vet penance set, but green

for 110,000

[clear lynx]

is crafting broken right now? anytime i try to upgrade my weapon it says unable to perform operation

[spiral thorn]

A biomancy psyker would be dope

[long imp]

Bollocks, you always gotta ask a few more times just to be sure.

[spiral thorn]

They gave sienna a melee tank class, make it happen fatshark

[sour flower]

wish i could buy it

[jaunty panther]

Is the 15 mission completion quest bugged ? i'm sure i did at least 6 of them and got awarded only 2

[wet bloom]

Do power swords have armor pen?

[tranquil grove]

Seems like my crashing issues have been resolved since the update

[full loom]

Save up your weekly tokens, blue power swords will appear in the armory with a higher level than that

[balmy basin]

Likewise

[cosmic raft]

Anyone familiar with this perk? Is it permanent for the mission or is there a timer on how long it's active and they just forgot to add?

[balmy basin]

Doesn't need a timer

Can't have one

[wet bloom]

Its probably just regen I imagine

[umbral stream]

would this be worth it?

[full loom]

It's a micro-transaction to have a timer, sorry

[cosmic raft]

Makes sense

[balmy basin]

Considering it's for cleaving, yeah

[clear lynx]

are thunder hammers not upgradable? i could upgrade my bolt gun but cant on my hammer

[balmy basin]

Thunder Hammer is bugged currently

Can't upgrade it

[clear lynx]

damn

[wet bloom]

Do power swords have armor pen? I do fine clearing with my chainsword but if they are better and can go through the metal bois ill probably switch

otherwise I need something to deal with metal

[balmy basin]

Go test it in the Psykhanium

[wet bloom]

Im asking because I havent bought one yet

[full loom]

They are fantastic

[wet bloom]

and it costs 14k for the one in store now but the stats are good

[uncut verge]

Power Swords are generally considered OP

[full loom]

Hit the special and it'll 2-hit a mauler at Malice difficulty

[wet bloom]

ok thank

ill buy then though ill miss chainsword

shovel feels the best but it also feels useless considered to chainsword

[hollow flame]

Is rating increase based off the highest weapon you have in a given slot, or highest weapon overall?

[modern orbit]

What exactly does the cleave stat do? i got a cleave blessing but i dont really notice a difference?

[hollow flame]

More targets hit with secondary cleave damage

[clear lynx]

for "shocking stuff" penance, do all 50 have to be within 10 seconds or is it cumulative across the mission

[modern orbit]

so on the mk1 sword its pretty useless since it already cleaves everything?

[hollow flame]

There is a limit to the number

[balmy basin]

Within 10s

It's really easy to do if you're solo. So you just need to only throw one grenade at a horse and clear it with a flamer

[modern orbit]

I there a source where i can find the cleave number on each weapon?

[full loom]

I'd throw grenades at horses all day if I was able

[clear lynx]

i figured flamer would be the way to do it, ill have to wait for private lobbies

[balmy basin]

I did it on Heresy. Nobody does things there, let the AIs die and waited for a horde

And cleared it

Preferably on a section of the map with tight and closed spaces

[slate moon]

Alrite, so what I figured, guide for guns for snoiper:

1. Standard lasgun - good snoiper waepon. Nuff said
2. Standard assault rifle - here and there, surprisingly ammo efficient
3. Charged lasgun - perfect snoiper weapon
4. Revolver - near perfect snoiper weapon, but reload sucks
5. DMR assault rifle - very good snoiper
6. Laser pistol/SMG - if you wanna torture yourself
7. Automatic laser - very good weapon. Both for headshots and for clearing hordes
8. Braced autogun (SAW) - very good snoiper weapon, spray is very tight in special mode
9. Bolter - if you have the patience to wait 1 second between shots to regain control of the weapon - very good snoiper
10. Plasma. Absolutely insanely perfect snoiper weapon. Cuts through the trash and allows you to deliver those long range pain inducing shots even when enemy is behind the horde of the trash. Reload is slow, heat is a pain, but you gotta pay for the piercing death plasma beam.

Right, but it lacks that pierce of the plasma if enemy is hiding among the trash

Plasma gun under perfect condition can clear a corridor of trash in one non-charged shot

[full loom]

I find bolter is best overall, stagger for ogryns and kills elites fast

[bold saffron]

Bolter/Plasma is good

[slate moon]

Yep, plus that lore effect of venting the heat straight in your fucking face

[edgy salmon]

Just a quick question because I'm drawing a blank. Trying to figure out what the 7 mission types are for the sharpshooter achievement. I have 6 and I figure the 7th isn't out yet, but I can't remember all 6. I know we have:

1. Assasination
2. Investigation
3. Strike
4. Raid
5. Repair
   But what is the 6th?

[somber pewter]

full auto boltering a mauler is best feeling

[balmy basin]

Disruption

[edgy salmon]

Ah that was it! Thank you fam

[slate moon]

No doubt about that

[balmy basin]

And Espionage

[edgy salmon]

Espionage isn't out yet right?

[balmy basin]

We had it

Out of rotation

[slate moon]

Its out. I got myself a hat at some point

[balmy basin]

Disruption hasn't been on the rotation. was only on day one

[hollow flame]

Not that I'm aware of. Check youtube?

[edgy salmon]

Ah that was the one I'm missing then

So I have espionage, but need disruption

[full loom]

Day 1 had the deserty planet surface map, but it's bugged so they pulled it

[edgy salmon]

Right, that was the one in the desert or whatever?

Right

[balmy basin]

Yeah

[little stream]

yep

[balmy basin]

So gonna have to wait for release on that one

[edgy salmon]

[balmy basin]

It is what it is

[feral gust]

There's a massive skill jump from lvl2-lvl3.
i rule on lvl2, I kill my team on lvl3

[somber pewter]

do colats mean i can miss shots for the 100 accuarcy?

[wild temple]

anyone wanna group for psyker penance cliffhanger?

[drowsy lake]

I'm desperately trying to get this too and I think that the raid mission is best spot? But yeah i second this

[torpid epoch]

Can anyone help me do the zealot armor penance

[pastel kayak]

Is there a Source out there listing all weapon Perks/Mods?

[stoic heath]

same, and I feel like I will never get better at this game

[somber pewter]

just need better gear

[spiral gale]

Are there different types of lucius lasguns? Like the kantrael?

N any tips for it? I cant land my shots lol. By the time i fully charge up a shot, the enemy im aiming for is dead XD. Unless its a boss or ogryn elite.

[somber pewter]

dont feel like you have to charge every time is a good tip

[hallow pebble]

What's the max power level for weapons?

[rigid wasp]

how good is the warpflame staff? I should've asked this in here cause general chat is a bit clustered

[somber pewter]

dont do it

vets will hate you

[silver ridge]

is disruption mode not in the game right now still

[balmy basin]

Nope

[edgy salmon]

Nah I asked that just before

[stoic heath]

for me its not that I dont have good gear, I do, its that I suck ass at melee

[rigid wasp]

the warpflame? vets would hate me? that makes me wanna use it more

[somber pewter]

toxic

[rigid wasp]

I like shooting fire

[cosmic raft]

Screw the vets, its fun to use give it a try

[slow fog]

Warpflame is OK - Voidstrike and Lightning are almost universally considered the best

[rigid wasp]

blasting warpfire out of my hands sounds really cool

[stoic heath]

I dont understand why vets would hate it, and I play vet

[rigid wasp]

voidstrike I saw, that one looks cool

[signal cipher]

I prefer it to lighting

[bold bronze]

Gray items cap at 400 as far as I understand, and then the different rarities push past that. Someone earlier did the math and said the max possible is 560, but you don't 'need' it to be maxed out to be a good weapon.

[rigid wasp]

I prefer flames over lightning too, it just looks much cooler

[signal cipher]

From my testing it's a little less effective then a flamer BUT you have unlimited ammo so

[slow fog]

So that teaser looks like a great unclean one yeah?

[cyan iris]

Does anyone else have the "unable to perform operation" when trying to consecrate?

I have the materials

[slow fog]

If its a thunder hammer upgrades are bugged for it

[rigid wasp]

what teaser?

[cyan iris]

ah beans

[signal cipher]

OH GOD NO, I haven't seen it yet but if it's a great unclean one the hive city is likely fucked

[rigid wasp]

hey, that makes it at least pretty nice to have

[somber pewter]

if you mean the early teaser i think it was a beast of nurgle

[cyan iris]

A great unclean one wouldn't fit on the map, it's more likely to be nurglings

[slow fog]

#📢news-bulletin message

[proud bluff]

can i unlock anyhead gear for vet rn, or is that bugged?

[echo root]

Teaser reveals we get a scuffed Illidan Stormrage tie-in

[rigid wasp]

what's the teaser?

[slow fog]

This basically

[rigid wasp]

oooh

[rustic harbor]

what about the great clean one?

[slow fog]

Could just be a sorcerer looking like a GUO

But yeah those horns definitely suggest GUO

[rigid wasp]

I'm going to check games workshop nurgle models rn

just to see

[echo root]

I saw somebody mention it being a deamonhost I think

[vapid kindle]

Whast a GUO? not too keen on 40k lore

[slow fog]

Oh yeah thats a better fit for our powerlevel

Great Unclean One - Greater demon of Nurgle

[warm snow]

what's the difficulty from heresy to damnation like?

[slow fog]

Basically waaaaaay beyond our power level

[vapid kindle]

Oh, so the teaser was for a new boss, not an additional race to fight?

[uncut verge]

Damnation is hell

[warm snow]

I assume a great unclean one would be the final boss

[rigid wasp]

this is a great unclean one

[warm snow]

at least for the base game

[dreamy carbon]

Waaaaay out of the cast's paycheck

[signal cipher]

Yeahhhh

[rigid wasp]

yeah, great unclean one is too big

[warm snow]

you say that but 40k is the same universe where the biggest badasses die to random bullshit

[rigid wasp]

I'd say it's a psyker

a nurgle psyker

[full loom]

might be a daemon prince or a possessed something something

[echo root]

Maybe if they would have misions with multiple teams and stuff a great unclean one could be possible

[slow fog]

Great Unclean One is the equivalent of like a Baneblade or something, or like dozens of Space Marines

[sharp fossil]

Not enough Tokens NOOO

[vapid kindle]

The head shown in the teaser reminds me a bit of the trolls head in VT 2, so I thought it was gonna use his skeleton

[rigid wasp]

here's a model size comparison

for those wondering

[slow fog]

Daemonhost sounds a lot more reasonable. Although in Eisenhorn, those bad bois are NO JOKE

[rigid wasp]

a space marine is equivalent to an ogryn size

[dire ridge]

there's prolly not gonna be any major bosses on release

[rigid wasp]

so think of that space marine as an ogryn

and the great unclean one is that big

[storm laurel]

it would need to be a map specific boss

[signal cipher]

A great unclean one can wipe out a company of space Marines, we are losing the war to chaos guard and hive gangers

At best we might get a mission with a deathguard boss

[rigid wasp]

I highly doubt death guard are there to begin with

[sleek nebula]

Can one or two lvl 30 ppl paste their sire melk shop real quick? I'm trying to work something out.

[rigid wasp]

if the chaos guard and hive gangers are already winning, the death guard would see no purpose in interfering

[drowsy lake]

I highly doubt any death guard. They have made their intention clear regarding marines

[rigid wasp]

and since Nurgles corruption has already gotten out of hand, the death guard see it as a victory

even if the imperium is trying to cleanse the city

[signal cipher]

You know Ogryn are like 2 feet bigger right

[storm laurel]

closest thing to that we'd see is some dude in some regular human power armor

[rigid wasp]

Ogryn are slightly bigger, but you gotta take into account their hunch

[bold saffron]

Termies are about as Big as the Average Ogryn iirc

[rigid wasp]

because of them being hunched over, they are the same height, otherwise if they didnt have bad back problems

then they would be taller

[sleek nebula]

have you ever seen a greater power on there than 475?

[rigid wasp]

or as tall as a primaris

[signal cipher]

Yeah true, orks are that way

[jagged plover]

no, but i reached 30 today

[rigid wasp]

orks are tall if they arent hunched over

[sleek nebula]

ah fair so that's your shop for <30 still?

[rigid wasp]

unhunched ogryns are insanely tall

[jagged plover]

idk, how usually does it refresh? is it daily? then this is lvl 30

stock

[rigid wasp]

but they got that gamer shrimp posture

[sleek nebula]

it's every 24 hours

[jagged plover]

then its lvl 30 stock, it will refresh in 23 hours

[storm laurel]

I dunno if you can really call that a hunch

it's more an enormous mass of back and shoulder muscle

[dreamy carbon]

That's kind of their natural posture due to their evolution in super high gravity planets.

[storm laurel]

don't think they'd be physically capable of straightening their back

[rigid wasp]

it's just the models for bullgryns have less of a hunch compared to ogryns

[signal cipher]

Not without help

[rigid wasp]

making them tower over space marines easily

[vapid kindle]

So... was the teaser that was showne earlier today a GUO? and its meant to be the 3rd bos of the game? i think thats what im gathering

[rigid wasp]

we doubt it's a GUO

for the sheer size of the beast it would be

and GUO's are insanely powerful

I believe it's a psyker

[vapid kindle]

Whaat are peopels best guesses then? I would hope another fightable race

[slow fog]

Daemonhost probably

[spiral thorn]

Any GD would feel insane to fight

[signal cipher]

Part of me hopes it's a deathguard

[slow fog]

Its not

[spiral thorn]

Some people think a marine is too much of a boss

[vapid kindle]

arent deathguard just... pox space marines?

[spiral thorn]

...

[rigid wasp]

I think fatshark said no space marines ever

[slow fog]

They've outright said no space marines multiple times

[rigid wasp]

way more than that

[vapid kindle]

like I said earlier im not keen on 40k lore, thats just what i saw on the gist

[warm hill]

Any tips on the Over watch challenge for vet? it is a struggle for sure i tend to get hit by a single random grunt that i never hear sneaking up on me.

[vapid kindle]

Get to the end, alt f4, then load back in and hop on the valkyrie lol

[spiral thorn]

Is it cuz they are too strong? Cuz a beast if nurgle is definitely a more powerful opponent then a marine

[rigid wasp]

it's alright, they are a space marine legion corrupted by Nurgle to be basically unkillable and resilient as hell, un-staggering and ever so inexorable

[grave ocean]

Why does the headhunter feel so bad to hae

It's like a gun pretending to be a sniper

[warm hill]

that really works?

[slow fog]

Dunno. Probably more thematic reasons

[vapid kindle]

Thats what I figured when I saw them, im like oh space marines, but for nurgle

[vapid kindle]

Thats how I did it, so yeah it should lol

[kind zephyr]

Can someone tell me the point of the Force Sword?

I don't get what the Push-Follow up attack does differently to the Push itself. Why it's worth gaining Peril to do it.

[rigid wasp]

are beasts of nurgle more power than marines?

[warm hill]

that can be a last resort thing i guess.

[grave ocean]

Beasts of nurgle are literal daemons

[hollow pendant]

Did anyone know that Zealots can equip Bolters?

[vapid kindle]

Basically if you wanna be legit, you gotta keep everything at bay for the entirety of the mission, cause if just one thing melees you, you take 1hp, which voids the challenge

[rigid wasp]

eh, just looked up their tabletop stats, they are indeed stronger than a marine, but weaker in forms of attacks

[warm hill]

yeah i have been trying the challenge since i was lvl 14 and i am 30 now because my passive perception is 0

[rigid wasp]

space marines are tactical, strong, and never really come just by themselves unless it's a really strong marine

[sacred shadow]

Is there a way to see which mission types you've done or not for Penance?

[drifting vigil]

anyone a tipp which ranged weapon for veteran i could use on malice and higher? i dont like bolter or plasma too much but everything else seems to weak

[rigid wasp]

an ogryn is equivalent to a space marine in strength, but space marines being smarter is what makes them better

[spiral thorn]

Their corruption being nurgle based certianly supports seeing a similarity to a death guard plague marine and a poxwalker. And in terms of theme they are similar as well. Alot of nurgle related models mix themes of life and death into them. Plague marines are described as looking like bloated corpses, so while definitely dead looking arent zombies like poxwalkers are. Poxwalkers are humans infected by a very specific disease while death guard house a plethora of illnesses in them as they are the chosen mortals of their god. In fact the disease that makes poxwalkers was invented by a death guard marine named typhus

[grave ocean]

Look in #40k-minis-and-armies for an example of what a daemon actually is

Daemons are fucking horrific

[spiral thorn]

You mean sexy as hell

[misty meadow]

quick question for the zealot penance complete a mission with out firing a shot dose that apply to the team or just you?

[urban mango]

Just you

[misty meadow]

sick

thanks bro

[spiral thorn]

I own about 2k worth of daemons

[grave ocean]

5k guardsmen and 5k chaos combined

[spiral thorn]

And a 2k possessed list for csm

[grave ocean]

Darktide was built specifically for me

[spiral thorn]

And like 3 k of daemon engines

[rigid wasp]

I only own daemons of tzeentch and tsons for chaos related things

[spiral thorn]

And another 3k of AOS chaos

[north ridge]

What's the power cap on weapons? I've seen it go past 400, but I'm not sure where they max out.

[spiral thorn]

Then another 2 k of nurgle chaos AOS

[torn wigeon]

Seen someone post one as high as 454.

[spiral thorn]

Maybe 500 is the cap

Feels like a good number

[young pelican]

the 1st push just staggers enemies, the second can actually make them slip, even maulers and ragers. Plus, with the feat that increases your dmg on power weapons based on peril, it also helps you to deal with them

[spiral thorn]

Have anyone been able to dodge a chaos puppers bite

[storm laurel]

yeah

[dire ridge]

i've seen 509

[earnest vapor]

Quite often actually

[spiral thorn]

The timing feels harder then dodging a hook rat for me haha

[vivid oxide]

the dogs? i think i slided under one once

[spiral thorn]

Having been able to get it yet

[split anvil]

Hmm, there is a bit of a slow down on the item score at 400+ right?

[storm laurel]

the timing is fucky but just try to dodge just before the sound cue

it doesn't telegraph at all and it bounces all over the place so not something you can do 100%

[dire ridge]

btw does anyone know what the second number means?

[lilac talon]

The range of potential rating.

[storm laurel]

the game really hates solo play

[torn wigeon]

In the rating? It's the highest 'possible' rating that you can get when you upgrade.

[grave ocean]

Then get some friends

[spiral thorn]

I feel as tho darktide is a much more coop feeling game. In the sense that i could play vermintide practically solo at times but here i feel like that would be harder

[dire ridge]

i'm pretty sure each upgrade is just a flat +25 increase

[storm laurel]

I don't mean solo play like that

[dire ridge]

stats don't change, only the trait gets added and that's +25

[storm laurel]

the game seems to hate and actively discourage clutching

if you're alone it wants you dead

[grave ocean]

Save your friends

Stick close to them

[spiral thorn]

Which tbf its supposed too feel like that

[grave ocean]

You shouldn't fall behind or wander off

The hounds will getcha

[spiral thorn]

Vermintide however had some design choices that made clutching super easy

[rigid wasp]

this game is meant for multiplayer right? team work? it seems with all the passives classes get it seems that way

[grave ocean]

It's made for you to stick with your fire team

Wandering off is risky but gets you extra loot and a dog

[storm laurel]

oops team died and spawned halfway across the map

[rigid wasp]

to stick with my Kill Team™️

[wraith elbow]

is zealot penance still cheesable

[spiral thorn]

Like for instance, a well set up kruber playing grail knight could one shot monsters. Idk if darktide will see anything that crazy

[ashen depot]

I dont think that was intentional though

the game is a team game

[dusk hemlock]

anyone know how can i know what map i complete to do challenge complete 7 map ?

[icy hawk]

any ways to reduce the particles more?

everytime there's a psyker my game goes to shit

[storm laurel]

yeah and it works great when the team is working together on things

[spiral thorn]

There is no way it wasnt. It wasnt an exploit it was just how they designed his ult

[storm laurel]

but when things go bad, the disabler timings suck

and when you don't have the safety net of a team it's annoying as piss to get grabbed by something you knew you should've dodged

[split anvil]

If you check your penances you can look look at what types of missions you haven't completed

[spiral thorn]

I had a vet get shot vy a trapper as we all jumped down a hole. So they were just stuck alone in a place we could no longer reach lol

Timing was impeccable by that trapper

[dusk hemlock]

where to look that i check in there and they only tell me complete 5 map and what is 2 map last they dont showup

[dense moat]

gotta try to figure it out on the Missions Penances

not the character ones

[vale quiver]

have a quick question, i know some names are just flat out wrong to be used in your character name, but would it be bad if i named my lil imperial solider E. Rex Shaun?

[vague vale]

When are they bringing back the 7th mission type?

[split anvil]

Go to penances and then go to Missions

And scroll downwards

[slow fog]

lmao just got flamed for saying
"Drop health"
at the final horde, when two people were carrying them

[dusk hemlock]

oh i see thanks

[vale quiver]

Maybe Dr E Rex Shaun...might be ok...right?

[slow fog]

imagine being that fragile

[tall shadow]

It was causing crashes not sure when

[vague vale]

so sad only people who got lucky day 1 got the hoods now

[tall shadow]

You can buy them in the shop

[dense moat]

you can buy hoods in the shop when you get to ~28

[vague vale]

yea but they arent the same

and you cant get the tier 2 helmets without it either

[icy hawk]

if you crash/disconnect from a game and your team still wins do you still get the rewards or nah?

[spiral thorn]

Man i know itll never happen but i would love to get a career that has a kit focussed on buffing team mates. Psyker alternate career with a G key spell that buffs a team mate and rewards you for it could be cool. Ogryn is the closest we got to a support class atm i think

[tall shadow]

Not true I can buy a tier 2 helmet and I don’t have it unlocked

[cerulean crown]

Sometimes.

[spiral thorn]

In vermintide saltzpyre was the closest i can think of as a support with his priest dlc class

Witch hunter also had support abilities

Omg is ogryn gonna get a heavy bolter

Coukd you imagine? That thing would cut everything in half haha

[grave ocean]

Plasma cannon

Overheats instantly

[spiral thorn]

Plasma is too complicated for an ogryn haha

[grave ocean]

How

Pull trigger

Plasma plas

[spiral thorn]

The "dont explode part" is what gets them

[rigid wasp]

hey, if a servitor can use a plasma cannon

then an ogryn can too

[icy hawk]

when it overheats he throws it at them because it's too hot and get another one from his back

[grave ocean]

Robot arm weapon when

[torpid epoch]

anyone know how to do the flesh wound penance been trying forever

[uncut verge]

Play Borderlands? Those guns that reload by tossing them like grenades lol

[tall shadow]

You can cheese it

[spiral thorn]

In the lore ogryn ripper guns have built in systems to prevent ogryns from expending all their ammo in the first 30 seconds of an engagement

Every ogryn would overheat and blow their arm off

[torpid epoch]

@tall shadowyeah ive tried think i need help

[grave ocean]

Burst limiters

[spiral thorn]

Any gun requiring control is something an ogryn shouldnt wield

[torpid epoch]

@tall shadowbeen looking for a team to try and help me get it

[tall shadow]

You need to be down to 1 wound for 75% of the time, so if it takes you 2 minutes to get down to that much then you need to survive for longer and you can’t go down need to be the last one to die

[torpid epoch]

@tall shadowbeen trying in matchmaking with no luck

[tall shadow]

Go into damnation by yourself and do it

[rustic harbor]

Anybody know if Reds are in the game or are Oranges the highest?

[spiral thorn]

Wait did fatshark ever confirm we are getting more careers

[torpid epoch]

@tall shadowtried a hundred times

[grave ocean]

Me want commisar

And ratling

[torpid epoch]

@tall shadowit brings in people and it never unlocks when i die

[spiral thorn]

Only if the commisar can execute team mates

Imagine how much issues that would cause lol

[tired crown]

I'd definitely play the commisar, do my best Saltzpyre impression over voice.

[kind zephyr]

Clearly they shoudl revive from afar.

[grave ocean]

Execute a teammate to gain +75% permanent health boost

[somber pewter]

lmaooo

id prefer the gaunt route

[grave ocean]

Only Weapons are pistols and swords

Like a plasma pistol and power sword

[spiral thorn]

Yeah gaunt or yarrick

[tired crown]

Yeah that actually makes sense, berate and threaten them into submission

[spiral thorn]

One of the ones famous for not shooting to improve morale

[kind zephyr]

Their ult is a targetted verbal barrage.

[grave ocean]

Ciaphas cain

[tired crown]

The dialogue between commisar and psyker would be fantastic

[kind zephyr]

It either revives a downed teammate, or debuffs an enemy.

[grave ocean]

Commissars have an imposter syndrome meter

[vale quiver]

I keep getting name validation failed

[spiral thorn]

They would prolly make execution a skill. Smth like overwatches auto aim abilities

[spiral thorn]

Thats happened to me too even when i follow all the rules

[light flume]

No spaces allowed afaik

[spiral thorn]

Prometheus was a name i tried

[vale quiver]

not using spaces

[spiral thorn]

That and Ba'al

[vale quiver]

NurgleMahboobeh ERexShaun and Mahboobeh doesnt seem to work

[spiral thorn]

Yeah its a bug where the game cant recognize the name is valid

[grave ocean]

Boob?

[sleek nebula]

If anyone here is level 30 and figured out how to push your weapon rating to 500 please do let me know.

[vale quiver]

doesnt explainERexShaun

[spiral thorn]

Okay boob makes sense why it was blocked but the other 2 seem fine

[vale quiver]

ahh i left s space after Shaun

[patent sapphire]

i suggest growing a better sense of humor

[light flume]

Told ya

[vale quiver]

but it lets me use ERexShaun..wonder if ill get in trouble with this name

[spiral thorn]

Ur aware what your discord name is right

Jk

[somber pewter]

bahah i got it finally

i am free from veteran

[patent sapphire]

[vale quiver]

tempted to go with the name but not sure if a dev will look at it without humor lol

[delicate crypt]

does cavalcade work on bolters, i tested for the last five minutes with volley fire refill, and it doesnt seem like the last few rounds are critting at all

does it count it as separate instances of bursts, or one continuous fire

[dense moat]

not all ranged weapons can crit

[shrewd pendant]

yo i just lost like 100k+ of cash, anyone had that happen?

[spiral thorn]

Bolter with crits would be too powerful

[delicate crypt]

i think bolter can crit, let me check that out

will return

[dense moat]

try relogging

[delicate crypt]

you may be right about bolters not critting

[shrewd pendant]

relogging didnt work, i straight up just had 150k deleted from my account

[dense moat]

every time I lost my money it loaded back eventually

hopefully it will do the same for you

[burnt pendant]

Ok, so I've gathered that suppression is a bit iffy and usually doesn't actually work (on enemies, they suppress us just fine).
But now I just got a flame staff that says "suppress enemies within 5 meters on kill", and that suppresses just about anything that can be suppressed. Without killing anything.
What am I seeing here? Does the staff actually have godlike suppression, or does it work because I did, some uncounted minutes in the past, actually kill something in CQC, or is the "on kill" trigger simply always on or a faulty description?

[dense lark]

Anyone know if orange is going to be the highest item tier, or are they bringing back reds?

[modern orbit]

the staff itself has godlike cc

[uncut verge]

Haven’t heard or seen anything about reds but they might need coming and just held back

[slate moon]

Oddly, lore says theese guys aren't really aggressive unless you piss one off. They speak to you like a good grandpa would, in a good tone and gentle manner, and surprsingly able to compromise unlike other demons. That of course implies you have a gas mask on and won't puke when approaching closer than half a kilometer to one

[rigid wasp]

oh yeah

you wouldnt be able to be in a miles proximity

because of the stench

[slate moon]

• Ah, welcome to my little domain. Please feel yourself at home. Help yourselves however you would like. How may I help you, sweet travellers?
• Either retching or Pyro from TF2 noises

[storm laurel]

nurgle demons are just the happiest jolliest fellas

[burnt pendant]

I assume that one trait is responsible for lasguns using 3 ammo per shot.

[last totem]

so i just crafted this and i'm very happy with it, but testing the staff some more in the meatgrinder i noticed it does significantly more damage against armoured enemies compared to unarmoured ones, so i'm thinking about replacing the traits with bonuses vs armored guys to really amp up the damage on them. even with the current traits it out-dpses the brain burst against them. thoughts?

[rigid wasp]

what does surge do?

[rare shadow]

does zealot need buffs?

[slate moon]

I know right? That's what I like about the Gw universe. Gods of chaos are just a summary of human souls. Fucked up as they are. Something tells me if 40K wouldn't be such a grim dark place to live in, ruinous powers wouldn't nearly be as ruinous

[last totem]

basically a chain lightning, it stuns enemies for a moment, and does decent-ish damage (MUCH more vs armoured targets)

[rigid wasp]

OOOH that's the lightning one!

[dense moat]

surge is like force lighting, it zaps 3-4 enemies in front of you stunning with a small dot and then a larger damage finisher

[last totem]

i was a little shocked testing it more in depth comparing the damage difference between a mauler and a dog/mutant for example. i found out the surge staff has very poor damage on dogs and muties, although it does stun them which is really nice. but on maulers, and other armoured types the damage output is legit

[slow fog]

God twitch UI is so bad, where do I check for drops? I assume there are no new ones since the lasgun camo?

[last totem]

it makes sense since i guess it's supposed to be "realistic" aka metal conducts electricity = big ouchie

[slow fog]

Ah OK no, next unlock is in two days

[dense moat]

drops & rewards under your account (click your portrait on the top right of Twitch), and no new ones afaik

there are some other ones listed but not sure if they're active

[slow fog]

Cheers m8

[signal cipher]

Ehhhhh, maybe a small increase to cleave

The only class I feel needs love is Ogryn, and even then he is mostly fine, also

Female Ogryn when?

[dark spoke]

I feel super dumb but: Why when I try to join strike teams in game does it never work?

[slow fog]

Zealot I've found is good but you REALLY need to understand your melee weapon

Eviscirator rules, but you need the right combo

Heavy, light pushstab

[rare shadow]

i find i do no damage

using that

[signal cipher]

Thunder hammer is more for cc then anything

[slow fog]

If you want evi tips, I can stream

[signal cipher]

It has "fuck you" attacks tho

[rare shadow]

if i want damage can i go axe?

[slow fog]

standard axe is legit

[lunar ferry]

is this worth buying? I love trying to compare bars next to each other 🥲

[rare shadow]

god now i now why i made vetran over zealot

[lilac talon]

Voidstrike Staff looks better.

Tbh idk if Terrifying Barrage does anything

They'll be supressed either way since Coruscation Staff is a high rate of fire weapon

My bad, I meant the left one looks better.

[lunar ferry]

they're both voidstrike

[verbal magnet]

So, I've been trying to get the 12 dodges in a row achievement and the 20 headshot kills in a row. Any advice on how to make that easier?

Also, while asking for help, what counts as Melee damage?

[lilac talon]

I didn't look at the name, only looks lol

[lunar ferry]

Yeah the statlines just seem better

[dense moat]

dodge during horde attacks so you're dodging multiple enemies at the same time - it only takes 3-4 dodges that way

[verbal magnet]

... Why the heck didn't I think of that before. Good thought.

[dense moat]

also brainburst 20 non-elites in a row for easy "headshots"

[verbal magnet]

Just do it with a Psyker lol

Makes sense. I was gonna make a Psyker anyway.

[delicate halo]

Hammerblow impact? Assuming increased stagger?

or maybe cleave?

[verbal magnet]

Nah, it would say if it gave better cleave.

I bet it's stagger.

[slow fog]

Hmm toughness or cleave

[verbal magnet]

Both eventually when you can combine them in the future.

But I'd pick the Cleave personally.

[normal tendon]

Idk toughness in that one looks better

Plus the damage to maniacs

[delicate halo]

whoops capslock. me too I agree

[normal tendon]

Which are your main threat as Zealot in my experience, or a major one

[spiral thorn]

How effective are ogryn guns melee alternate attacks? So far ive only used the kickback and its bash seems super good compared to the bashes and bayonet strikes ive used on weapons from other classes.

[normal tendon]

The gauntlet one is really sick

[slow fog]

Yeah I've tried it and I honestly dont notice the cleave increase

[spiral thorn]

Like it almost feels like you could easily gun only on ogryn

[normal tendon]

Maybe on like

Difficulty 2

[delicate halo]

I wouldnt waste your resources on that personally. I just bought a 458 with 1900 and my armoury gives stuff that is around that power level rating.

[normal tendon]

Gauntlet is your best bet if you want to do that

[spiral thorn]

Doesnt the gauntlet have a point blank grenade punch

[normal tendon]

Since it functions like a proper weapon

[vale quiver]

im seeing alot of "darktide partners" what is this? are they just posting it or they are partnered with the company?

[normal tendon]

Yeah it’s alt fire, you punch and detonate the nade on them

It’s pretty cool, mostly good for clearing groups, it’s not super useful but it is fun.

[spiral thorn]

I only used the kickback on hordes tbf, it has some good stagger values and so even if the pox walkers werent dying very fast its not like they were able to ever get up and swing at me either

[heavy shuttle]

As a vet I rely on ogryn to deal with large swarms and provide a shield (from melee rushes and as cover as needed)

If an ogryn was a range build I would be curious what role it would fill instead of the aforementioned critical areas.

[spiral thorn]

Ogryns stagger in this game in general feels super strong. In vermintide kruber had a stagger based class but it was sorta lame as in higher difficulties you didnt really reach any useful stagger thresholds on him and shield weapons that liked the skill werent very amazing

[lilac talon]

Horde thinner

[vale quiver]

wonder if the orgyn will get the Auto cannon

[spiral thorn]

Heavy stubber go burrrrrrrr

[heavy shuttle]

Isnt that already filled by mace and shield?

[bold bronze]

Pretty good at clearing out ranged enemies hiding behind cover too...at least, with the grenade launcher thing.

[sleek light]

anyone done the Ogryn penance called "Friends Will be Friends"? Just attempted it twice on Malice but didn't get it. Just wondering if the tooltip is wrong or something

[spiral thorn]

That fact its mace and shield and not gauntlet and shield saddens me

[heavy shuttle]

I always considered that a veteran function. At least, a half way decent one.

[mossy helm]

anyone got any tips to getting the "On Overwatch" challenge done for Veteran? Out of all the Malice missions ive done ive never been able to get through one without getting snuck up on by a melee enemy or swarmed by a horde that got too close

[lilac talon]

Suppression is still pretty janky though. I had my Heavy Stubber kept firing on a group of ranged enemies and about two of them (out in the open) still aimed and shot at me.

[dapper turret]

What does error code 2006 mean

[spiral thorn]

Ive had enemies in melee range pull guns on me at times haha

[normal tendon]

The coherency one?

[sleek light]

Yes

[lilac talon]

It was worse a few days ago lol

They tweaked the melee swap range a bit.

[normal tendon]

I guess all I can say is, did everyone stay in coherency the full time?

[sleek light]

Yeah, we literally moved a meter at a time staying inside of each other both times

[normal tendon]

I did it in the one hab mission with the auspex scanners

[spiral thorn]

Is towering presence noticeable

[normal tendon]

Not sure what could happened. I’ve heard of other people having similar issues

[normal tendon]

Which one is that?

[spiral thorn]

I havent super payed attention to coherency

Its 50 percent boost to coherency range talent ogryn gets

[sleek light]

And you did it on Malice?

[normal tendon]

Yeah

[spiral thorn]

Is the shield and mace any good?

[lilac talon]

Yep

[normal tendon]

Yes, it’s basically the end Ogryn weapon for 4/5 diff

[spiral thorn]

Okay thats actually great to hear considering how poor shield weapons were in vermintide

I mean they werent horrible, but definitely not top tier picks

[heavy shuttle]

MG XII is a great sniper lasgun.

[normal tendon]

Shields were fine but they weren’t needed

[spiral thorn]

Although some variants were exceptions. The elf had a good shield sword option

[dapper turret]

What is error code 2006

[heavy shuttle]

Just make sure you pack a good melee weapon for horde

[normal tendon]

In this game being able to stunlock 29 elites indefinitely for your team is huge

[dapper turret]

WHat. Does error code 2006. mean

[heavy shuttle]

Ammo efficiency on the MG XII isnt a concern unless you're absolutely cranking it.

[chrome sonnet]

My cursor gets stuck on screen sometimes and it means I cant turn around without moving my mouse to another monitor. Any idea how to fix it?

[lilac talon]

Literally just had to restart my game for that

[heavy shuttle]

use chat bar then exit chat bar

[chrome sonnet]

Nevermind, I got it. Open chat and close it

[heavy shuttle]

Yes different 'kind' of lasgun.

[vale quiver]

anyone know about this partnership thing on Lurkit? seems stuck at step 1 of 5

[spiral thorn]

The hit you would take to damage in vermintide for grabbing a shield version of a weapon always felt bad. And the one handed versions had better dodges which felt more useful at higher levels in my experience

[upbeat cipher]

+4.5% what lol

[patent sapphire]

4.5%

[spiral thorn]

Drip

[patent sapphire]

just a general percentage increase to

[spiral thorn]

Flex on the heretics

[tardy wigeon]

Apparently the knife is very good for heresy and damnation on Ogryn, I heard guys in general chat talking about a streamer who was hard carrying with a knife build

[spiral thorn]

Can the slab shield block bosses and monsters without instantly losing all your stamina

[heavy shuttle]

For instance, MG XII is slower firing semi auto lasgun but stronger/stabilized weapon platform. MG IV is a faster firing semi auto. Recon is fully automatic but there are trade offs

[gleaming sentinel]

I had a question about the dream team penance. Does going down mean needing to be revived? Does it include being trapped by a trapper?

[chrome sonnet]

I would love to know how this stacks. Does it stack up each time I land a hit? Does it just go up to 60% the longer I hold a charge?

[spiral thorn]

When they said ignorance was the best defence against heresy i didnt think they meant they wouldnt properly describe weapons stats and skills

[unborn pilot]

have we heard anything about potential increases in loot drops at the end of missions, this 1 thing every 20+ missions is less than exciting

[heavy shuttle]

There is a MG XIII? Im only aware of the MG XII

[gleaming sentinel]

I miss the boxes from vermintide two

[spiral kite]

Is it just the thunder hammer that can’t be consecrated?

[spiral thorn]

It made it super easy to find weapons for a class. I liked that you could like build up a collection and then change character and open a bunch to try and increase that characters arsenal.

[heavy shuttle]

No worries. I'd recommend trying out the various types of lasguns to see which one fits your groove. Im stuck in the bolter bandwagon until they fix the lasguns with some penetration or scopes or... something

[heavy shuttle]

From what the folks here have been saying, yes

[spiral kite]

I sad 😢

[heavy shuttle]

Shark fix soon.

[gleaming sentinel]

I miss that a lot too. I agree. Very sad

[spiral thorn]

Slower progression can help a games longevity, maybe itll be better in the long run

[tropic ruin]

Just me or did they change melee combat without a patch note? (stamina not recharging during dodges so you cant effectively chain the two)

[spiral thorn]

Man i really hope we get a dedicated support, smth similar to saltspyres dlc class would make me happy

Watching someone get dummied by 5 chaos warriors and then instant rezzing them with full health felt godly

[twin swallow]

Did they change the Emperor's Gift drop rate somehow with the latest patch? I am seeing a drop every 2~3 runs while leveling my Vet as opposed to like 1 every 10 when I was leveling my Fanatic pre-patch

And a lot more purples and blues at level 10-ish on the Veteran, as opposed to whites still dropping when 20+ on the Fanatic

[heavy shuttle]

Hrm... I think a Sisters of Battle Hospitalice (sp) would be cool. The healing would have to be very carefully done as it could break these kind of horde-survival games.

[cerulean crown]

Is there a wiki or guide yet with details on like, all the differences in weapons types?

[spiral thorn]

I think due to how chip damage works healing in this game is generally weaker as a mechanic then in vermintide. Perhaps tho it would be better to instrad focus on wound related and down related abilities for a medic. No healing but faster rezzes and negating wounds would still feel like a medic without even giving them a single heal

Their ult could even be an adrenaline shot that buffs someones damage

[twin swallow]

Something like this? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons

[heavy shuttle]

Maybe corruption cleansing? That could be a thing?

[pulsar tundra]

This is one of the big gripes on Reddit - the UI being janky and weapons stats not being deliberate\tooltips. The answer provided by devs is that its a amalamation of alot of different stats and calculations so the bar is more "descriptive"

[cerulean crown]

Their Blitz ability could give temp HP that fades away and uses nade charges, like a small barrier against chip.

[heavy shuttle]

Plus a repentus cosmetic... for scientific reasons...

[dusty ruin]

hmmm whatcha guys think of this one, think i should get it?

[spiral thorn]

Yes, lots of ways to implement healing abilities without straight up health replenishment

[pulsar tundra]

bullpup lasgun -that heresy if i've ever seent it

[spiral thorn]

Also a medicae drill as a weapon would lowkey be decent

[verbal magnet]

Technically canon for what a Hotshot Lasgun looks like... it's a freakin' FAMAS!

[heavy shuttle]

Unfortunately for the lasguns, they plink off heavy carapace

[verbal magnet]

I like it, great for swarms.

[mellow mason]

the zealot stuff that gives "tougness damage reduction - allies in coherency" - does this apply to the zealot too? Cause if the veterans also get that they are 100% tankier than the zealot

[verbal magnet]

Also decently good at dealing with unarmored or flak armored enemies.

[pulsar tundra]

yeah, but the whole point of bull-pup designs is to shorten it - that thing looks just as chonky as the standard issue long bois

[spiral thorn]

They could even have smth super experimental. Like perhaps they get charges that work like a medicae station but never replenish. Also make the ability take a bit to pull off so mid combat its unwieldy

[pulsar tundra]

medicae gauntlent on a tech priest\skitari character would be fire

[spiral thorn]

Im not sure how often medicaes are found in higher difficulties

Ive only played on level 2 atm, as i feel uncomfortable until i get some talents under me

[heavy shuttle]

Its not too bad. Just getting to them alive is a chore.

[spiral thorn]

So having the ability to act as a medicae wouldnt be op if the charges were low and they never replenished

[heavy shuttle]

When the team has used up our second wind three times, and 12 of our nine lives to see the medicae station only has 1 charge...

[stone wing]

yeah sorry my teams always have those full medicae stations

[spiral thorn]

Smth that feels weird is that every class has a 30 second cd on their skill

[stone wing]

you can't have them

[spiral thorn]

Sorry

Blitz

Psyker and zealot feel like the best choices for going full support with the right "career"

[raw sage]

It's existed for a loooong time.

[spiral thorn]

Psyker is an obvious one since thats how 90 percent of them act on the table top anyways

[raw sage]

Like, almost 20 years.

[winter gust]

what does the special ammo do exactly for shotgungs

[pulsar tundra]

I think "support" would come more from the feat selection - but honestly the fact that there aren't any real support options bums me out

honestly - the game doesnt' seem to require teamwork as much as it would seem

[spiral thorn]

I was thinking smth like a reverse brain burst. Charge on a friendly and cast to give them a stack of a damage buff

[uncut verge]

Changes the pellet pattern for the next shot to be a horizontal line, perfect to hit oncoming horde with at head level

[heavy shuttle]

When I hear dog howls, I crawl up our friendly ogryns ass.

[pulsar tundra]

Thats about the extent of teamwork

that and everyone doing their job

[spiral thorn]

Then have talents so players can either build towards full support or opt out of it like how current psyker can create builds where they rarely brain burst

[pulsar tundra]

Calling out elites - ammo - medicae - carrying healthpacks

[heavy shuttle]

I think thats pretty good teamwork. Everyones profession handling their business.

[tired crown]

On psyker I try to CC ranged enemies so our zealot/ogryn can move in and deal with them before we get turned into swiss cheese

[pulsar tundra]

sure, but it doesn't build synergies or provide for more nuanced game play

[mossy helm]

anyone willing to help me with "On Overwatch" for veteran? or anyone willing to help me cheese it lol

[tired crown]

In fact I'd say making buddies with your resident ogryn is some good teamwork from start to finish. Always watching each other's backs especially during endless horde missions.

[pulsar tundra]

I Think thats largely the only aspect of support that is actually going to exist. Like the guardsmans grenade regen feat or ammo regen feats

[karmic dragon]

There anyway to get in a lobby with just bots?

[uncut verge]

Not presently

[tired crown]

What about during scan events?

[heavy shuttle]

Not at the moment but they are working on it.

[tired crown]

That's some pretty necessary teamwork

[spiral thorn]

Smth i find funny is some people hear certian suggestions for mire classes and say they are too strong when darktide has a psyker and an ogryn as playable. When they announced ogryn i remember so many people being wowed at it since on the table chaos spawn are the same weight class and yet chaos spawn is a boss in vermintide.

[uncut verge]

Is there confirmation they are adding private lobbies? Last I saw it was undecided

[tired crown]

Yeah they said they are in December

[pulsar tundra]

Honeslty - I've never not been let down by that. Start scanning - get my asskicked in while my team farts around across teh other side of the map instead of forming up

[sour lotus]

I thought they added a way to skip the tutorial on alt characters? I cant seem to find any skip button.

[heavy shuttle]

Its in one of the blog posts. They are for sure adding it

[uncut verge]

Good, figured they would but glad for confirmation

[tired crown]

I've had my fair share of getting gibbed while scanning too, but also teams that will make a phalanx around me while doing whatever task

[pulsar tundra]

spent 10 minutes on one map trying to run the auspex for dna samples and ended up team wiping because nobody could buy a clue

[uncut verge]

Very important for Dune of these penances especially, but also just playing with only 1-2 friends and not wanting a random

[spiral thorn]

I dont even know how the scanner mini game works lol

[pulsar tundra]

there are a few - which ones?

[uncut verge]

Really?

[tired crown]

Idk, I'd say there is a fair amount of teamwork required in the game. Whether or not people choose to engage in it is another matter, but it's there.

[spiral thorn]

The mission that had valdron insult you while you try and reroute a train

[pulsar tundra]

haven't done it yet

[uncut verge]

Click on the box to fix investigator.

For investigating clues, the dots point towards the clue. Get close enough and aim at object to turn green with lmb

[heavy shuttle]

Yeah... Ive noticed that in alot of teams. Not everyone needs their scanner out. Same thing with carrying ammo/energy cells, if a guy is on it, Im pulling cover-his-ass duty.

[uncut verge]

Oh, just click when the moving box goes over the highlighted icon

Click early not late

[spiral thorn]

I clicked it once, realized it was a mini game and also that i didnt know the controls so instead of playing around with it i immediately opted to back out lol

[uncut verge]

When it’s halfway over, click

[spiral thorn]

Just left click?

[uncut verge]

Clicking when it’s halfway off will fail

[long citrus]

Is consecrate bugged? Or am I missing something obvious.

[spiral thorn]

Sounds easy enough

[uncut verge]

Yeah

[pulsar tundra]

I agree - but if I get to it first... I'd like to think people can figure out to cover my ass. I have yet to experience that

[spiral thorn]

It would be super funny if they made it so that ogryns got a harder mini game to represent them being dumb

[uncut verge]

It’s really simple, just try not to panic

[spiral thorn]

Simulate the stupid

[keen cedar]

can you get the the vetern helmet yet?

[uncut verge]

Actually it’s easier for them since they can’t be interrupted (unless pinned)

[heavy shuttle]

The first one (no mask) yes. Masked helmet no

[spiral thorn]

Wait their revive passive functions on scanner mini games

Why tho

[uncut verge]

They don’t get distracted by a little pain

[humble heart]

So fav weapon as zealot in diff 4+?

[pulsar tundra]

hot take - I'd honestly make it so they can't do the auspex. They aren boneheads so its dubious they'd be able to run that

but they shuld also be able to carry two powercells

[uncut verge]

Evis + Bolter

[spiral thorn]

I guess but seeing the description for that passive id never guess it would effect that

[pulsar tundra]

or carry a cell and still fire

[uncut verge]

They can carry one full speed, advantage enough

[spiral thorn]

Yeah ogryn has alot of liberties to make it fair

[humble heart]

Used to play that, but loving rashad axe + flamer atm

[pulsar tundra]

never noticed

[silent dome]

hey so what guns are good for veteran, I've been trying out all kinds for 20+ hours now and I've only found 2 that aren't completely useless

[heavy shuttle]

I always thought that the techpriest had made it stupid easy enough for a group of convicts and ogryns to use... like a kid phone with 1 or 2 bright colored buttons

[spiral thorn]

I always do the throw pick up throw tactic

[humble heart]

Evis feels weak outside rev

[uncut verge]

That’s same speed as just walking it really, but you can take shortcuts at the right spots

[verbal magnet]

Depends on what you like shooting honestly.

The basic Lasgun is great, the Hotshot/Auto Lasgun is also awesome, the Bolter is fucking amazing and I love the Stubber Revolver.

[heavy shuttle]

Bolter/Power sword combo with pinning fire on bolter is very good atm.

So good it's probably getting changed.

[verbal magnet]

I also think the Plasma Rifle is cool, and basically any of the stubber rifles are also pretty fun.

[silent dome]

really? I had a really hard time with the bolter, could barely hit anything and it killed specials slower than my lasgun

[humble heart]

X12 has to be the answer

[heavy shuttle]

Plasma Rifle is pretty trash atm 🤔

[coral tide]

so is there a trick to marked for death? cause i just cant find the weak points on most of the enemies and im not sure if the hordes even count for it

[silent dome]

the recon lasgun? I tried it out it does like 0 damage

[uncut verge]

I’ve heard a lot of “power sword op” So I expect some tweaking there.

Bolter I’m guessing they’ll just limit ammo even more on

[silent dome]

I chewed through all my ammo almost immediately

[verbal magnet]

You must have gotten one with pretty weak damage. I felt like it's great for chewing through large hoards.

[gleaming sentinel]

coming back to repeat question. For Dream Team penance, does getting attacked by a poxhound or trapped count as going down?

[heavy shuttle]

Prioritize targets to elites/ogryns. Power sword for hordes.

[silent dome]

it was halfway on the damage stat

[uncut verge]

Recon is only 1 energy per shot, so it can shoot a lot. Still want weak points though

[humble heart]

X12+powersword prolly the strongest loadout

[unborn pilot]

yea i hate the bolter. not enough ammo and never feel like i can hit specials at range reliably

[silent dome]

would be real fucking nice if the game gave me hard stats instead of bars that dont mean anything

[verbal magnet]

That's really weird then, I dunno what to tell you.

[heavy shuttle]

X12 plinks off carapace.

[uncut verge]

Fire the recon in bursts at head level and wreck

[silent dome]

can shoot a lot doesnt mean anything if it takes half a year to kill anything

[silent dome]

I dumped like 12 rounds into a shotgunners head and he didnt die on 3/5 difficulty

[humble heart]

Veterans job is to kill rangeds and elites. Let zealots and psykers delete carapace

[silent dome]

the only gun I've found do literally anything of substance is the Kantrael MG XII Lasgun

the one with slower firerate but high damage

tons of ammo, kills specials in 2-3 shots

[uncut verge]

XII is great

[heavy shuttle]

Bolter can do both very well. The faster crushers/bulwarks are off the field the better.

[uncut verge]

Chain or power sword for hordes and carapace

[silent dome]

the only other gun ive found to be remotely useful is the Columnus Mk II braced autogun, the only downside is no range, it also has a metric truckload of ammo and chews through hordes and specials

[heavy shuttle]

I'd rather be at mid range with auto bolter into large ogryn than get into melee dance with crusher.

[uncut verge]

Braced is a lot of fun but the lack of range hurts

Recon is like between braced and XII

[humble heart]

Rather have a veteran deal with the swathes of rangeds than carapace

[silent dome]

hence why I was hyped for it but man

the damage is so bad

are any of its variants good?

for the recon lasgun

cause the default one you get the Mk II is shit

[humble heart]

As a zealot main carapace and armor is cake

[balmy basin]

I get you

[uncut verge]

I think that’s what I’m using at the moment (level 19 Malice)

[balmy basin]

That's what Psykers and Veteran are for

[heavy shuttle]

Why limit to one when we can do both? Meh, different flavors of play.

[uncut verge]

Haven’t tried Bolter yet.

[raw sage]

It also comes down to your team comp

Having a vet with a bolter is fine if you have another vet with lasgun

[humble heart]

Bolters are nice, just prefer having a x12 that can outperform bolter in ranged

[silent dome]

bolter is cool but it takes half a year to pull it up, its only got 15 shots and then takes half a year to reload

[humble heart]

True

[lime imp]

Unfortunately w/o swappable classes each has to lean into what they are uniquely good at

[raw sage]

Kinda wish we can swap operatives in ready room easier

[silent dome]

yea on malice the gun cant kill anything

[raw sage]

To compensate for the matchmaking haha

[silent dome]

it takes like 10 shots to kill a single shooter

[pulsar tundra]

or just change loadouts

[heavy shuttle]

For comparison, I was a hard X12 guy. Then I tried bolter and realized I could pull long 1/2 shots on most specialists to elites.

[uncut verge]

Use it like a XII with 3 ring burst at heads and it works pretty well.

[lime imp]

And vet can clear a room of shooters v easily compared to others

[heavy shuttle]

It does the same thing as X12 but has the armor penetration lasguns lack... for now, hopefully it gets reworked a bit.

[humble heart]

Same thing, except slower mobility, draw, reload, ammo cap, mag

[silent dome]

except the XII just one shot bodyshots most things so I dont even have to aim for the head

[humble heart]

Bolter is good tho

[uncut verge]

Yeah, kinda think XII is a better lasgun, but I need another in the store

[slow fog]

Goddamit shop, I dont want axes and autoguns, stop offering me axes and autoguns ALWAYS

[silent dome]

I just wish I had more options, most of the autoguns do pitiful damage, have insanely long reloads, very little reserve ammo and have only like 20 bullets in the mag

[humble heart]

Class?

[slow fog]

Zealot

[uncut verge]

Yeah, braced is fun with enough ammo to go ham, but it lacks at range badly

[humble heart]

Dont sleep on axes as zealot

[tame kite]

from here on if i see any players leave downed team mates to focus on objectives and leaving people behind im leaving

gods the players in Darktide

no sense of team play

[silent dome]

I think im just getting really tired of this game already, I've tried dozens of guns and have no clue what im getting cause the stats dont tell me anything, theres no 'try before you buy', theres no 'default gun' for each slot that you can craft in a forge or use in the training room to try stuff out