gameplay-help

[finite vine]

Void + one straight hallway + horde = maximum power fantasy

[tough cove]

Yea both my friends who main psyker use void, but I like the performance I saw from some lightning staff users

[cerulean crown]

Yeah when the enemies are just lining up for you and you launch that missile at head level is just

[tough cove]

That's what I saw, the CC seemed nuts

[patent sapphire]

is the left an upgrade? i'm going to buy it anyway for the higher rating just to keep but wondering if i should use it, damage bar seems low

[lilac phoenix]

Is zealots lvl 10 talent bloodletting not working?
hitting bleeding enemies onyl gives stacks VERY randomly and applying bleed on crit is also working onyl soemtimes

[cursive torrent]

You can shoot the grenade. I suggest the blue recon lasgun to do this and just pray. Took me a few missions of hunting down good hordes to attempt it on.

[boreal quarry]

It can be yes, now that I understand stats a bit better I am sure it's possible to heighten the amount of stun/stagger it does

[tough cove]

I would keep u sing your existing

[tough cove]

You need a weapon with high finesse if you're goign to use that feat, otherwise it's barely ever goign to proc, and the buff is multiplicateive, multiplying barely anything is still barely anything

[winter moss]

Has anyone had or heard of someone from Fatshark fixing glitches / bugs for specific players? I've got a contract for a map that got removed, and can't re-roll it due to another bug of not being able to re-roll past the cost of 7,500. I'll be pretty disappointed if I miss out on my 1,000 weekly bonus for completing all contracts 😦

[lilac phoenix]

Not waht I mean, I stack 25% crit on eviscerator in testing
I crit with evis
Thing starts to bleed
next hit MAYBE applies the buff
next hits (he is still bleeding btw) no

[tough cove]

Oh that way, I misunderstood, apologies

[lone shell]

how do i report a bug when the forum Post topic button is greyed out?

[cerulean crown]

Are you logged in?

[lone shell]

yes, i see my profile on top right corner

[dreamy steeple]

Anyone else encountering this, "Unable to perform operation" bug when trying to consecrate?

[lilac phoenix]

I have a 210 knife that has bleed on hitting NOT weakspots
and it is the only thing that can stack that fucking talent
BUT ONLY on bigger things
zealot talents are horrendously bad lol ..

[fathom crag]

Is it just me, or does the Ogryn feel a bit underwhelming?

[lilac phoenix]

not just you, zealot is the same

[lone shell]

but theres a bug where if you stack 50% change of recieving curio as mission reward, you will stop getting mission reward drops

even if you remove the stacks to 0%, you still no longer get mission rewards

im 21 runs in without a drop

[mossy frost]

Same, was wondering if the hype was true, and by god I have a new favorite weapon

[tough cove]

meanwhile 70% damage resistance ogryn carrying games

[lilac phoenix]

its not about that, plus that resistance kicks in only when someone is down
Not that it is bad, but considering that things has fucking STR 5 on tabletop
ye they are underwhelming

[tough cove]

I'm talking about the bleed resistance build, which applies as long as you're fighting, which is the only time you need it

[lilac phoenix]

But still not AS BAD as zealots are, who got fucked royally after the chip dmg and beta nerfs and dodge nerf

[tough cove]

Dodge nerf? they got buffed

[lilac phoenix]

dodge was nerfed in general, then zealots got a little buff

but the real problem is fuckign chip damage

[tough cove]

Which was good because before you could endlessly kite way to easy

[lilac phoenix]

with 2 weapons in the game

[dreamy steeple]

As a zealot main I concur. The chip damage is pure agony. The higher you go the worse it gets.

[tough cove]

chip damage is needed otherwise you can never die, you are granted tools to deal with it, immunity + ult allows you to use the window to get out of the problem if required or regain your health if you so spec it, I've onyl brought my zealot into heresy though, not damnation.

[tired crown]

All of the others have their place but the void staff just melts so many things.

[lilac phoenix]

Plus this whole endless kitting, there arent MANY spots where you have the room to kite for any long period
plus you cant dodge through enemies, so one bad flank and all that kitting is gone

[wheat sable]

So are some missions not available rn?

[dreamy steeple]

There are better alternatives to chip damage. Toughness damage resist is already a feature that can be tweaked, same with toughness recharge.

[tired crown]

Correct, they'll release more over time + there was one only available the first day but removed because it was buggy.

[tough cove]

That's kinda where situational awareness comes in, you can always just go to the last room if it's easier to fight in, also while blocking and back dodging you can quickly look around with a mouse flick and check if you're being flanked, if not you're free to push and kill
Map knowledge also pays off with that

[mossy frost]

I agree, but I still have trouble with the trauma secondary; I can aim it fine, but it takes longer since there’s no clear arc like with grenades

[lilac phoenix]

Ult gets stoped by being grazed by a bullet in 4+ so no
Chip damage fundamentaly fucks over zealots because of their "supposed" low hp playstyle
THIS ISNT vermintide with 98% enemies melee
Here ranged enemies 2 meters away from you still SHOOT YOU instead of going into melee AS THEY SHOULD
Playing zealot is pure ass

[lilac talon]

I love getting wombo combo'd by a Mutant, chip away all my health.

[cerulean pelican]

doesn't ranged damage not do chip?

[lilac phoenix]

Doesnt matter since it fuckign staggers you and you have fuckall to deal with it

[dire ridge]

can consecration ever increase stats?

[heavy shuttle]

I havent seen the boost, myself.

[cerulean pelican]

a gun?

[fathom crag]

I'm trying to get a hang of the Ogryn, I'm only level 18 with a Shield and grenade launcher

[lilac phoenix]

ye sure, you mean that one which should supress enemies but it doesnt so you loose 50% healthpool just by playing the game

cuz the melee range i bugged

[fathom crag]

Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it feels like I can't ever get toughness up proper

[dreamy steeple]

Yup, you can easily get locked in place by enemies. I understand not being able to push forward, that's the point, but being unable to move at all isn't fun.
Any time, in any game, where you feel like you might as well just set the controls down and go have a snack while the enemy holds you there, is a sign of poor design/balance.

[tired crown]

I agree, the range is pretty poor too. I feel like the void staff outshines the disruption and horde clearing of the trauma

[tough cove]

Don't ult straight into them then, you're not an ogryn, dodge to get into them, in zig zag because when you dodge IF they shoot they'll shoot the position where you started your dodge, you literally won't get hit if you zig zag, ult is for quick displacement and relocation, not closing the distance, even ogryn can't blindly rush in unless he's sure he'll reach them before they start shooting.
And again, chip damage is needed, otherwise you might as well remove, health and wounds from teh game.

[spiral thorn]

I was testing void staff out in the psykanium place, are my eyes decieving me or does it do a little AOE everytime it passes through an enemy

[lilac phoenix]

THis

[tired crown]

It does, yeah. Shooting into a long line of enemies can just delete them.

[lilac phoenix]

Jesus I fucking HATE when people assume that ohter people who have criticism are 5IQ brainlets who hold W all the time

[mossy frost]

I’d be fine with the trauma secondary if I wasn’t so exposed while charging and aiming

[lilac phoenix]

Idk if you played 4+ but 2 shots graze you ther and bam you are staggered

[tired crown]

Have you tried a staff with the trait "can't be interrupted while performing secondary"?

[lilac phoenix]

what do you do? ofc you dodge adn zig zag
oh what is that more shots coming you way that stagger you?
guess what more free dmg

[mossy frost]

Only got a purgatus with that, but it’s certainly useful

[tired crown]

Oh man that'd be nice on purgatus

[spiral thorn]

Its certianly the strangest to aim staff, but sienna had the same thing in vermintide and once people got used to it people thought it was fine

[dreamy steeple]

Damage can interrupt the player's attacks and halts attempts to dodge, so if you get, say, a rager, you're locked down and basically dead already unless a friend can shoot them away from you or manages to get a good heavy swing/stagger in.

[tough cove]

Alright, continue complaining then 🤷‍♂️
Won't give advise, as I said just a few replies above, I only played heresy highest with my zealot and it's literally no issue, damnation maybe I can imagine, but you sound to me like one of those people who undervalues dodge and proper positioning, instad just want health immuntiy and say that ranged is bad.

[tired crown]

Trauma just needs some love or maybe I need a better rolled one

[cerulean pelican]

I think it just forced them to run into cover

[halcyon carbon]

How are people getting "Cliffhangar" penance on the Psyker done?

[lilac phoenix]

I had a gun which had the incread supression perk, didnt do fuckall they just dontiunue shooting

[mossy frost]

If I played sienna more, I might be more comfortable, but I’m a victor basic bitch

[tired crown]

Lol me too.

[dreamy steeple]

The forge area isn't bad, right near the end with that big smelter pit at the middle. There's also that espionage mission ending, the 3 bridges.

[spiral thorn]

Anyone find the zealots death passive to be super lame due to chip damage existing

[lilac phoenix]

That is not advice that is patronizing, Iam not playing lvl 1 running headlong into a gunline and then bitch that I died

[bold saffron]

How do I fix the DCing issues cause I dc'd like 8 times on a Endless 3

[spiral thorn]

Im thinking with the revenant skill itll be super good but im still low level on zealot

[lilac phoenix]

and his suppsoed "low hp" playstyle which doesnt exist since ANY melee dmg even on full toughness deals 10% of its value (not jsut backtabs)

[tough cove]

The reason I'm assuming that is because you're complaining about chip damage, when pushing, dodging and blocking exist which nullify that

[lapis raven]

you don't have to play that low health lol

[lilac phoenix]

No doding and blocking exists to nullify dmg, chip dmg is cheap mechanic that THE TUTORIAL ITSELF doesnt acknowledge exists

[lapis raven]

it caps out at like 45 lost health or something like that

[spiral thorn]

Yeah his low health stacks are actually fine, i just feel the death passive is wasted till you get revenant

[lapis raven]

death-ward passive is fine, it just saves you more than you think

[lilac phoenix]

= they made the game withotut chip dmg
they deisgned the classes without chip dmg
and now a week before launch they introduce a mechanic that fucks over zealots playstyle royally

[heavy shuttle]

Ive talked with/debated/traded ideas with @tough cove for a few days now. Never known him to be patronizing, I genuinely think hes just trying to help

[strange spear]

Can anyone confirm if the Counterfire trait does count for the deadye challenge?

[tough cove]

chip damage is damage

"No doding and blocking exists to nullify dmg,"
So that includes chip damage..

[lapis raven]

my man chip damage was in the closed beta

[dreamy steeple]

No it wasn't.

[lapis raven]

it was

[spiral thorn]

I find its not really saving me, since after it ends even if i replenish my toughness a single mistake downs me

[lilac phoenix]

Yes and holding W makes you go forward, any other excelent ideas I never heard about?

[lapis raven]

@spiral thorn yeah but you survived a single mistake already, you shouldn't be making another one

[dreamy steeple]

I played it for 21 hours and can say with absolute certainty, it wasn't there. If it was, then the stun you get when taking said damage was definitely not there.

[tough cove]

If you're such a know it all, then why are you having issues?

[dreamy steeple]

The stun is the main reason it's so miserable.

[lilac phoenix]

But dont you know, holding RMB solves all these problems!

[lapis raven]

from melee? just dodge and the slowdown will have worn off

[silver ridge]

How do you clear with the chain axe? Or do you just not and pray for teammates. Heavies don’t seem very good

[lapis raven]

but also yeah just block and push more if you're getting hit

[lilac phoenix]

spam light attacks, heavies are shit on anything
push attack also good

[tough cove]

Imagine coming to help chat, complaining about things, getting legit tactics, then shitting on the people trying to help you

[silver ridge]

Ok cool so I’m not playing it wrong. Just been spamming lights and shove attacks

[spiral thorn]

Vermintide had the exact same ability but due to not having the chip damage mechanic it didnt have the same issue. I feel like its a poor passive when compared to saltspyres zealot class

[dreamy steeple]

You can't dodge if you took a hit for a second, does nothing. Block is instantly broken by more than a few enemies. Push is wildly variant depending on weapon, usually ineffective against any but the lightest enemies.

[heavy shuttle]

Heavy with sweeping attacks like catachan and power sword are very good at clearing hordes.

[lapis raven]

don't compare it to saltz zealot, they're different games??

with different core punishing mechanisms and combat loops?

[lilac phoenix]

"legit tactic"
"Did you try to hold block and dodge in melee? "

[silver ridge]

Yeah I know for those weapons but the chain axe has a diagonal heavy. Guess I’ll just shove attack and spam lights with it

[dreamy steeple]

The best strategy I have for right now is just wide sweeps and dodging back and forth, praying a stray, single enemy doesn't come up from behind and hit me, causing my stunlock and death.

[tough cove]

You literally gave an example of yourself trying to ult through firing enemies mate

[lilac phoenix]

no, they are slow for that and they also dont kill then either

[shy dagger]

So, how do I send messages to my Strike Team instead of the entire Mourningstar?

[dreamy steeple]

Sadly not a feature yet. :C

[lapis raven]

there's sfx for people attacking from out of view, keep an ear out for it @dreamy steeple

[heavy shuttle]

on diff 4-5 they do. Aim for the head zone.

[lilac phoenix]

NO :D LOL
I said that on 4+ you get grazed by a bullet and your toughness is bye bye which stops the charge
Read wht I write

[dreamy steeple]

They get drowned out by all the enemies in front, sounds the same.

[lapis raven]

they don't

ears out; listen harder

[dreamy steeple]

It's that woosh sound effect

"Listen harder?" ...bruh

[lapis raven]

literally listen harder

[spiral thorn]

Different games but same exact theme. So salt feels like an actual zealot who can survive death itself and can be played on the edge while the 40k zealot cannot despite having the exact same theme. Its not a question of balance its a question of whether a different skill shouldve filled the slot

[tired crown]

I hear it over the sounds of everything else, but it feels like it's built in now.

[lilac phoenix]

Chainaxe heavies dont on 3 not to mention 4+ :D
I had an axe which had bonus dmg on the longer you hold the heavy and it still did fuckall

[heavy shuttle]

Havent really heard great things about chain axe. If you need good horde clear, Id recommend one of the two weapons like catachan/powersword

[tough cove]

Your attitude isn't helping, and yes, that's exactly what I described.... stopping the charge, by getting "grazed" aka not all shooting enemies are tied up and you're out in the open.

[dreamy steeple]

turns the knob on side of the head There we go

[lapis raven]

it's genuinely just practice man

it's not easy don't get me wrong

shit's hard to hear if you're getting distracted by the 9000 other things the game has

[lilac phoenix]

as in vermintide 2 that sound is reliable 70% of the time

mayeb even less

[heavy shuttle]

Not talking about chainaxes. Talking about catachans and powerswords

[lilac phoenix]

ooh mea culpa

[dreamy steeple]

It's annoying as piss. One single poxwalker can condemn you to death if it slips past the team and you're facing a hoard or ragers.

[lapis raven]

it doesn't condemn you my man

turn around, push 'em, dodge past

[dreamy steeple]

Get hit that once, that half second stun is all it takes for the lock to start.

[lilac phoenix]

it does since it fucks your melee combo, does chip dmg AND corruption :)

[lapis raven]

push

clear space

[lilac phoenix]

oh yes WHY didnt I think of that
oh w8

[dreamy steeple]

Push doesn't stop them but for a split second, and again, won't work if you just took a hit.

[spiral thorn]

Does stun last longer on higher difficulties?

[lapis raven]

it will, because you can dodge

which is a speedy direction zoom

actually, which weapons are you using?

[dreamy steeple]

I'm not sure. I think there's just more enemies so it's more likely you take another hit.

[lapis raven]

some of the heavier ones have awful dodges

[lilac phoenix]

@dreamy steeple dont bother its pointless people will simp for bad mechanics :D

[lapis raven]

and you need to be backed up by someone who can create space to use them effectively in large hordes

[lilac phoenix]

Ignore the fact the forum MOST active posts are about chip dmg being terribad

[lapis raven]

it's part of those type of weapons' damage

[lilac phoenix]

in v2 they have a perfect melee formula, darktide is harder by design since there are WAY MORE RANGED enemies

[dreamy steeple]

I've tried em all at this point. The dodge-types are nice for staying alive but won't whittle hordes fast enough to move the battle forward. The hammer is best for me personally because of the cleave and the optional thunder-slam for armored or elite targets.

[lapis raven]

v2 melee formula is comically forgiving

[rare torrent]

What diffculity i do warp battery on ?

[weak yarrow]

Is the accatran recon lasgun a bit buggy? Sometimes it bugs my quick swap. So if i try to quick swap weapons it double taps back to the weapon I had in hand before lol

[lilac phoenix]

this game DOES NOT need a dmg on top f dmg mechanic lol

[dreamy steeple]

Nothing felt better then sending a rager to mars with one swing

[tired halo]

do the ordo docket curio bonuses stack

[lapis raven]

haven't got the hammer yet; it looks good but sad to hear it's got a slow dodge. what's your team comp look like normally?

[dreamy steeple]

Varies p wildly.

Randoms n all

[boreal quarry]

I like staggering those buggers with the slab shield

[lapis raven]

random matchmaking, aye fair

[tired crown]

I don't think it's the accatran itself, on psyker I've had that issue with swapping between sword, staff, and brain burst.

[lapis raven]

what's your secondary?

the pistol type secondaries have good escape dodges

[dreamy steeple]

I find a good CC-centric orgyn is the best bro a zealot can have.

[lilac phoenix]

when you get a good eviscerator try it, imo its just better than hammer in every way including big dick single target dmg

[lapis raven]

revolver/autopistol/laspistol

[lilac phoenix]

but you cant dodge melee with ranged so you get hit anyway

[dreamy steeple]

Wait do ranged weapons have variant dodges? I assumed they were mostly similar, ranged weapons n all

[lapis raven]

they have variant dodges yeah

[weak yarrow]

I only encountered that during switching from staff to brain burst. Need to spam my brain burst button to switch to it from staff. But with lasgun its completely bugging my weapon quick swap.

[lapis raven]

and that got removed apparently @lilac phoenix

[dreamy steeple]

I'll need to keep that in mind then.

[lapis raven]

they also have variant move speeds

all weapons do, actually

[lilac phoenix]

when? because I know for a fact with rifles you cant dodge

[lapis raven]

you can

i've done it myself

[dreamy steeple]

Huh, I hadn't noticed a very big difference

[lilac phoenix]

I mean you can press the button and move

[lapis raven]

it's a shit dodge but it does exist

[dreamy steeple]

My braced rifle has a smallish dodge, but can work

[heavy shuttle]

You can dodge with ranged

[lilac phoenix]

but it does not dodge a melee hit

[lapis raven]

it does

i've literally used it in melee to dodge back and braced autorifle brrt a horde

[tired crown]

Maybe file a bug report? I should do the same, it's like the quick swap hotkey doesn't take priority over the staff and sounds like it's a totally separate problem with the accatran.

[lapis raven]

it's very timing specific because it's a small dodge though

[dreamy steeple]

You have to hope it gets far enough is the main thing. Ranged dodge for me is usually to dodge a sniper bullet, a volley, or to just get clear and pull melee

[rigid wasp]

so what is ogryn like in the higher levels? i'm 12 rn

[dreamy steeple]

Glorious

[heavy shuttle]

Critical.

[rigid wasp]

yes, sah.

[lapis raven]

ogryn w/ the heavy stubber is great ngl

[tired crown]

And wholesome.

[lapis raven]

i run club + stubber

[cerulean crown]

I haven't ever seen a melee attack incoming that didn't start with less clearance than my total dodge range on a medium gun unless it wasn't targeted at me

[lilac phoenix]

some of his weapons are really good

[rigid wasp]

For the Emprah, Sah.

[dreamy steeple]

Ogryn might be the most fun class in the game.

[tired crown]

"More scars to show the Emprah!"

[lilac phoenix]

but on 4+ you are proly just shield+mace

[lapis raven]

nah you can do 4 at least without it; i do

[rigid wasp]

ong i cant imagine playing the cod class when i can just hold m1 and release every now and again and be basically invincible

[tired crown]

I've had a few stand in front of me with shield while I lob void bolts through them.

[lilac phoenix]

can do yes
is it fun to be perma shot at cuz of the hitbox and absurd amount of ranged enemies? no

[lapis raven]

psyker powers going through people is mad ngl

that's what the stubber's for, silly

suppress those hostiles

[rigid wasp]

right now i got the shield and the massive twin cannons

loving em

[lilac phoenix]

that is the usual combo

[dreamy steeple]

I really want a big bullgryn club, 2 handed, big cleave with stagger. Knock hordes around.

[tired crown]

Better than popping vet ability and seeing the ogryn dive in front of you to soak them up ^ ^

[dreamy steeple]

The krumpin stick

[tired crown]

"Those are my bolts, sah!"

[rigid wasp]

hey i got heavy attacks to throw out i aint got time to clear the sightline

[pale musk]

ok guys so im nearly lvl 30. For what weapon score should i look for atleast for legendarys in the weekly shop

[weak yarrow]

checked forums and someone reported a bug which lets inputs go off multiple times and its acknowledge by devs. Guess thats my issue with the lasgun. Staff to brain burst seems to be awhole other problem ye

[tired crown]

I never mind honestly, every time I'm lucky enough to have an ogryn on my team he's my best friend and I stay right by him.

[rigid wasp]

so how should i be playing him in higher difficulties? rn i just ad clear with heavy attacks

[tired crown]

Oh that's good to know, especially that it's acknowledged.

My solution with staff to brain burst is to just swear at my PC and blame team mates.

[rare shadow]

wow this boss is hard vs vetran

[tired crown]

You're still lower level with vet, right?

[rare shadow]

level 20

[boreal quarry]

Still rocking the lorenz kickback atm, love the ability to sit an elite on their rear before they do something. That said am thinking of changing

[tired crown]

You try the power sword against him? Lock him in melee

[lapis raven]

grenade gauntlet's pretty good at that too tbh

[rigid wasp]

yeah i tried out the club initially but i much prefer the satisfaction of cutting heretics in twain

[lilac phoenix]

Quick question is chainsword bugged for you too
Its nigh impossible to hit headshtots with it, it always stops on the arms or shoulders, and you have to be hugging enemies + aim a head above them for it to hit it sometimes

no other weapon has this issues that i tested

[rich smelt]

Zealot with Catachan Mk 4 is enough to kill elites/specials?

[dreamy steeple]

I mean I want a 2-handed version. Twice the bonk

[tough cove]

gauntlet can also snipe far cause it's accurate, if you can aim, insta gib bursters, also explosive damage for beast of nurgle

[rigid wasp]

ogryn needs a two handed melee option

he could use a claymore like a toothpick so it'd be MASSIVE

[dreamy steeple]

Yeah, I can imagine a big club, and some ogryn steel knuckles for a speedier weapon

[lapis raven]

we're still missing some weapons from this preorder beta so we might get something like that on the "week3" release, or full game release

[dreamy steeple]

Punch the heretics

[bold bronze]

That's kinda the problem with designing a 2h weapon for him...

[lapis raven]

unironically i want brass knuckles for the ogryn

[tepid minnow]

all ogryns should play shield to protect the lil'uns

[rigid wasp]

for a bit i just used the grenade gauntlets and spammed m1

[lapis raven]

the uppercut that one of the melee weapons gets as a special is funny af

[rigid wasp]

used m2 when necessary

[rigid wasp]

bro the club is literally a slap

[lapis raven]

yeah

it stuns pretty much all enemies too

[storm laurel]

can we just give the ogryn a big ass chainsword

just for fun

[rigid wasp]

give him one of those space marine chainswords

[storm laurel]

far too small

[lapis raven]

on the topic of ogryn

[rigid wasp]

scale it

simple

[lapis raven]

i've been liking the change they made to the lvl 10 talent that makes the box open up when you hit peeps

and now there's two boxes, there's a fair bit of explosion

[rigid wasp]

yeah i thought that'd be pog but the bleed on heavy is so nice

[lapis raven]

originally it was a bit meh because it was carapace only

from what i can tell it's now just like, anything that isn't unarmored

flak, carapace, unyielding

[rigid wasp]

them big ass shield bearers aint gonna know what hit em

[lapis raven]

mach 3 grenade box straight to the skull

[wet bloom]

I got a chainsword that has a perk to increase crits on multiple hits, so does shredding work with that?

[bold bronze]

I always read that as cleaving multiple enemies.

[unborn pilot]

once you hit 30, is there any reason at all to look for/pickup grimoires or scriptures?

[brazen shoal]

New zealot, any tips?

[tough cove]

Weeklies, that's it

[uncut verge]

Weeklies

[unborn pilot]

thats.. sad

[stone wing]

hit the enemy really hard with your melee weapon when they are close

if they aren't close enough
shoot them until they are

[robust minnow]

Anyone have a group that can help me out with doing the heresy penances for veteran??

[brazen shoal]

What else

[stone wing]

don't die

[brazen shoal]

Anything else

[stone wing]

if about to die
use grenade

[bold bronze]

Don't forget we don't know the entirety of the game yet...might be that it becomes a crafting resource for the locked pieces.

[grave ocean]

How to change text channels

[brazen shoal]

Does zealot crit after ult get wasted if the attack doesn't hit an enemy

[tough cove]

or when you want to revive an ally

[grave ocean]

Im in Morningstar and I want to go to stroke team

[stone wing]

ok no questionmarks good to know

[brazen shoal]

Or answers

[stone wing]

love when people throw their zealot nades at random groups of enemies that are literally just standing there
like wtf are you doing

[grave ocean]

Does no one know

[stuck ridge]

New Map 👀

[brazen shoal]

Apparently no one knows my question either

[tired crown]

I wish zealots I see would use their grenades on ranged enemies, would make life so much easier.

[brazen shoal]

They're too busy telling you how to play the game while blocking your fire

[tough cove]

You can't, also no team voice chat in the hub

[grave ocean]

Grgrjg

[junior oriole]

Does endless horde mode give you any extra rewards?

[tired crown]

New map?!

[tough cove]

Xp, so only worth doing for fun / extra challenge after 30

[tired crown]

And money, right?

[junior oriole]

Ah many thanks 🙂

[tired crown]

I thought it gave money.

[tough cove]

Oh it gives money too? I thought it only gave xp

because in the xp listing it says special condition

[tired crown]

I could be 100% wrong, haha

[tough cove]

I also don't know for sure atm, I'd have to do a mission with it

[fathom python]

I think it gives slightly more money

[tired crown]

I can go try one and see

[fathom python]

Like only 10% or something

[tired crown]

Yeah if it does give any extra it's a paltry amount for the headache you get. Especially in public games.

[junior oriole]

I just wondered if it gave extra anything. The other things like 'collect grimoires' show you the extra stuff you'd get so I wasn't sure

[grim mauve]

When will the missions cycle through? I have 2 more mission types to complete for Vantage Point 2

[uncut verge]

Monday should have another patch bringing more mission content, dunno if the ones you need will come back though

[tough cove]

I think that's part of an ongoign thing, because the events aren't very balanced, for example fewer hordes, which makes the game even easier than a vanilla match, still gives bonus xp 🤷‍♂️

and just a bit of fog gives same xp as having bigger hordes and special spam

[uncut verge]

Only modifier active right now is endless horde

[tired crown]

Did they take out fewer hordes? I haven't seen them for a bit

[tough cove]

Right now yes, but it wasn't the past week

[grim mauve]

Yea they thought it was to east

Easy

[uncut verge]

Yeah I know. The fog was cool

[tired crown]

Or is that part of the rotation of modifiers?

Oh okay, they weren't wrong. Lol

[tough cove]

Agreed, and fewer hordes was good for my friends with older PCs

because they'd have much better performance in those matches

[tired crown]

Oh I'm sure, plus it helped with leveling quickly.

[tough cove]

yeap, easy xp lol

xp bonus + done faster, I don't understand why they would REWARD xp for making the mission easier

[tired crown]

The endless hordes have been a nightmare for me in pubs, we always get whittled down.

The Emperor sees all, it is not our duty to question His plans.

[dreamy steeple]

As a Zealot. the best feeling is when you see a ranged enemy section, stun nade the lot, then charge a heavy attack as you use your ability to storm in and thunder-hammer their biggest guy in one go, before turning and slapping the rest that were in cover around before they can recover and open up on you.

[tough cove]

Yep, the problem is the snowballing, there's always 1 guy either not paying attention to his surroundings, not utilizing block/dodge or aggroign patrols across the maps so they're aware and shooting us, then when he goes down it's 3, then when one gets trapped/dogged thre's only 2 left standing.

[tired crown]

That's exactly right, you've described every endless horde game I've played just about.

[dreamy steeple]

The bane of team-play is how there's always that one sharpshooter that doesn't understand he's a ranged class, charging ahead of the team with his chain sword and getting wrecked, needing to be saved constantly.

[spiral thorn]

Me when i see a patrol a million miles away but wanna keep my stacks as psyker

[tough cove]

Yep, tis the sad reality of pubs, even having just 1 friend on the team increases chances of winning so much

[tough cove]

Fffffff (wow, bot didn't remove my reply)

[tired crown]

Oh I'm sure. On one hand I've been getting better at carrying, on the other I don't like having to sweat so much each game ^ ^

[spiral thorn]

Coop games will always feel bad to a degree when not playing with friends or randoms who use mikes and relay info well

[tough cove]

Exactly, I can pick up some slack, but it gets tiring and sometimes it's just nice if people can at least carry their own weight

[spiral thorn]

If fat shark didnt want me to do it, then brain burst wouldnt have infinite range XD

[tough cove]

Like, sometimes if I only have 6hp, I let myself get downed during an opertune time, so I can have basically full health minus 1 wound for the rst of the map

[cerulean pelican]

Nothing wrong with a bit of bloodlust, private.

[tough cove]

Be me, by zealot / ogryn trying to get to ranged patrol, closing distance before they shoot my face off, see 1 las shot wizz by, whole patrol awakens and starts blasting me because I'm closest to them and the veteran probably has camo

[dreamy steeple]

I wouldn't mind if he were good. ;p

I've actually seen some really good sharpshooters too, ones who know how to use their guns efficiently and don't need to be babysat.

[rapid ermine]

Zealot trying to charge in to close the distance before dying just to see a head start glowing blue 2 packs down the line. "quess ill just die then"

[cerulean pelican]

Ah that is going to be a thing in high play, isn't it

[junior oriole]

I've been wondering that. As Ogryn, shouldn't Vet's let me deal with trash mobs to save on their ammo or does it not matter cos there's always gonna be enough ammo?

[weak yarrow]

As long as they are good in melee, but switch back to ranged if needed im totally fine with that. Was the same in V2 with more ranged classes

[spiral thorn]

Do coherency abilities effect me as well or just my team

[tough cove]

On my Ogryn I like stacking wounds and health, it really helps because then you don't go down when the team needs you the most, just be like "guys, please let this trash guy down me and then revive me so I can have health again"

[spiral thorn]

Curious about the ogryns level 5 double toughness gain passive

[dreamy steeple]

Yeah
In this game coherency makes sticking closer more important, yet some folks are just overconfident or paid 0 attention in the tutorial

[blissful flower]

While YOU are also in coherency yes. No effect if solo and seperated

[cerulean pelican]

I was told it doubles every type of gain, which seems really good

[shadow hollow]

What's the difference between both?

[cerulean pelican]

Three fiddy

[shadow hollow]

huh?

[bold bronze]

They are memeing.

[blissful bluff]

Whats more important for flamer thrower, Burn or Damage?

[shadow hollow]

I see.

[edgy monolith]

what exactly is a blessing? Is it the little numerical bonuses on a weapon/curio?

[bold saffron]

It’s the one with the icon

[spiral thorn]

Okay, so im not just giving up a toughness gain skill to buff my team, i also get the effect when i stay in coherency. If so then 100 percent boost to toughness replenishment seems bonkers

[edgy monolith]

ah, so a perk is the numerical one?

[junior oriole]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/dev-blog-performance

[shadow hollow]

thx

[edgy monolith]

also, I can't seem to find an 8th mission type in order to complete one of my penances, is it not in the game yet or smth?

[tough cove]

I was looking for that, I knew I saw that somewhere

[blissful flower]

"Disruption" was pulled after Day 1 of "Beta" for causing crashes/bugs, it'll reappear at some point

[spiral thorn]

I keep saying skill but i mean talent

[stone wing]

all these fancy new technologies and still no HDR support
I cri every time

[spiral thorn]

Its called lynchpin

[edgy monolith]

ah that's rough, thanks

[cerulean crown]

Is the only way to single shot the bolter to ADS? like, it always no matter how fast you release the trigger, is going to fire at least two shots?

[junior oriole]

I put HDR on anyway

[blissful flower]

Pretty certain you can single shot in ADS

[bold bronze]

I've gotten it to single shot in hipfire before...but its pretty random.

[tough cove]

It's kind of a support feat, versus a gain for yourself feat, because meleeing with your ranged weapon counts as heavy, so when you're spamming bleeds with your gauntlet and building resist, you're also giving yourself 20 toughness with the feat on heavy hit

If you like to plant shield and sit then it's proably better to take that, but if you're like me and like to get in and tie ranged enemies up so they aren't shooting the team, then you're better off giving yourself toughness as you're already indirectly decreasing damage to teh team

[cerulean crown]

I don't mean to be rude here but I think you misread the question.

[jagged vigil]

What are good modifiers on force staves?

[blissful flower]

Oh in Hipfire the count seems to be at least 2+, kinda like the Rippergun for Ogryns

[weak yarrow]

Ive also seen the other type. People hold S while shooting at enemies that are right in front of their face pummeling them to death lol. No dodge or no melee weapon to block lmao

[dreamy steeple]

Yup, those people also likely paid 0 attention in the tutorial

[cerulean crown]

Damage is always good, Charge Speed is usually good, after that it really depends on the staff. Which are you looking at in particular?

[jagged vigil]

oh, oops, I actually meant traits

[tough cove]

Blessings?

[cerulean crown]

Ah! Uh, for traits I like damage against elites personally

[bold bronze]

Fair is fair...if you get hit without blocking, the you will likely be stunlocked out of dodging anyways. So its not like you know they were dodging.

[junior oriole]

Ogryn not kno wut dodge

[cerulean crown]

and for blessings I like uninterrupted charges and uhhh

[jagged vigil]

maybe, like Warp flurry and such

[cerulean crown]

Suppression on close range kill

[bold bronze]

+% Cleave on mulit-hit or +% Cleave on repeated hits are pretty good.

[tough cove]

just text under the stats = property (such as damage against elites)
Seperate section below that with icon = blessing so yea, blessing 😛

[rapid ermine]

Got a axe with +%dmg on first hit of chain / -%dmg on concecutive hits. Time to only do charged attacks?

[cerulean crown]

Game refers to the text under the stats as perks:

[bleak maple]

daam plasma gun is so bad , i love bolt gun

[proper smelt]

Same

[tough cove]

but it's also under the option that says to change blessing

[proper smelt]

I think the plasma gun handles very weridly

[bleak maple]

its migraine to use plasma gun

[bold bronze]

Its bad, but it also might just be that there are some trait combos that make it amazing.

[tough cove]

It's not so bad, use it with insta reload feat and you can unload 2 charged shots, then 2 more with ult active in the span of like 5 seconds

[cerulean crown]

Plasma requires more building around than other guns, but also rewards more building around than other guns

I still don't like it personally, but I wouldn't say it's bad. Just niche.

[tough cove]

Yea exactly, it's not amazing, but it's not bad, just needs to be played around

[twin oasis]

what curios should I look for at Veteran Sharpshooter? wounds toughness and hp?

[stone wing]

weapons have both perks and blessings

blessings are the bottom section and cost 25-55 rating
perks are above blessings and cost 10-25

[tough cove]

I take 1x wound, 2x toughness on veteran

[bold bronze]

I've been rocking 2 +2 stamina and 1x wound and it feels great.

[twin oasis]

toughness regen good too?

[wintry harness]

is there a way to see, if we fight scabs or dregs on the mission screen, that I did not see yet?

[low phoenix]

scabs and dregs are not exclusive

[tough cove]

Depends on your regen feat I think

for example I use the regen on 8m away from enemy, which is a percentage of total toughness

so having more total toughness means you regen more per second, then I'd rather just have more toughness than faster regen
Kinda wish there was a property on curio that reduced toughness regen delay

[bleak maple]

should i upgrade bolt gun to purple? lvl 30 vet , thats the only weapon i love so far

[wintry harness]

so far I witnessed mostly separated factions, except the last mission where it was somewhat both factions, but I guess its random then?

[bold bronze]

Upgrading to purple just gives a property, not a blessing, so its not that useful.

[stuck ridge]

It's a new mission on the Metalfab location, but it appears to be over half new locations.

[nova cipher]

What are some good blessings to look out for on a surge (lightning) staff?

[tough cove]

Probably the heat ones, cause it's mostly for CC, so being able to spam it faster and more, gives more breathing room to team

Kinda depends on what you'd want to do with it I guess

Same could be argued for the bolt shooty one

[stuck ridge]

I kinda hope we get a Plasma variant that shoots an exploding shot on Charged rather than Piercing.

Also, Specialist Ammunition for Bolters.

[tough cove]

Realizing that Charged shots had piercing made plasma worth more to me than I originally thought it would be

At first I just thought it was as shittier bolter

[stone wing]

apparently it can shoot through walls
according to my vet fren

[stuck ridge]

I do really love the Plasma Gun. I just wish there was a variant that worked more like a HEAP RPG.

[tough cove]

Well it's a plasma gun, not a plasma cannon, the plasma cannon does what you're asking

Perhaps Ogryn can carry plasma cannon 🙂

[stuck ridge]

I haven't gotten it to do this yet, but it does explode when it hits most hard obstacles even on the non-charged shot.

[tough cove]

Can you imagine 4 ogryns with plasma cannons

with full friendly fire?

XDDDD

[lapis raven]

plasma def can shoot through cover at least; a friend of mine realised it

[stone wing]

imagine melee friendly fire

[tough cove]

Mate XD

[stone wing]

everyone spamming LMB

chivalry 1 PTSD

[tough cove]

Whenever I think of plasma cannon FF I think of spacehulk deathwing

[stuck ridge]

Also, a Plasma Caliver would be fun. Full Auto Plasma, but you have to watch the heat.

👀 M...maybe Hadron can give Skitarii weapons, either through quests or maybe you trade weapons to her for them or something.

[tough cove]

I was hoping for a mechanicus 5th class, support class, ult calls in a shooting servo skull or something lol, having skitarii weapons indeed

[stone wing]

5th class
literally just the emperor

big memes

[tough cove]

Final DLC I bet, the last DLC you'll ever need.

[stone wing]

remember kids
upgrade your curio ratings

[stuck ridge]

Maybe their ability teleports a Tarantula Turret

[tired crown]

"Class objective: sit in chair"

[tough cove]

Or a minefield 😮

[tough cove]

Eat 1000 psykers per day.

[cobalt sonnet]

"Team objective: sacrifice the psyker to progress to the next stage"

[stone wing]

Class objective: Watch the Imperium go to shit

[tough cove]

Let Guilliman do teh hard work

[tired crown]

That'd be every objective, I think.

"Trying new emp class, LF 3 psyker teammates"

[fading orbit]

I cannot wait for them to like ultra buff the psyker so I can have more fun than I already am

[tough cove]

I feel like a good psyker player is already OP as fuck, I'm not one of them, but I've seen some whom are just nuts

[fading orbit]

I won't lie that psyker's BB needs like more speed charge or sumn but other than that psyk's pretty sick imo

[tough cove]

I think the slow charge is BB's balance, otherwise nobody would use anything else (like in the open beta)

[tired crown]

I just played difficulty 2 on my psyker and it was so, so boring. Getting used to dodging/meleeing right after that clutch brain burst hits has gotten me really aware of my surroundings to the point of paranoia

[stone wing]

shout out to haha head glow blue psyker ability
I don't mean to shoot those guys
but it's like the psyker and the rest of the team aim at the same thing every time

shoot one target
switch to the next, psyker starts turning that target into a blueberry just before you start shooting

[fading orbit]

I guess? But honestly when the hell am I supposed to find time to do that especially when I could just use the force sword which does more damage in less time, like I'd even take a warp nerf just to get out more BBs

[stuck ridge]

Yeah. It was a bit annoying when I was trying to kill Bombers in Melee and the Psyker kept blowing them up. But also, I appreciate the Psykers paying attention

[tired crown]

But.. that's our job..

[tough cove]

But it's a snipe ability that ignores armor with unlimited range and ammo

[stuck ridge]

Psyker Veteran

"Fuck that specialist in particular"

[tough cove]

For a moment I thought you meant bursters and was gonna ask how you kill them in melee without taking damage

[jagged vigil]

Psykers unemployment is a big thing on higher difficulties

[fading orbit]

I guess? Vet existing kinda makes that null and void imo like yes ammo and sometimes range comes into account but ehhhhhhhh

[stone wing]

real talk
can't psyker yeet targets with no LOS as long as they're spotted?

[stuck ridge]

At higher levels, Psykers become legitimately scary, though. They really start being able to handle so much.

[fading orbit]

this is true this is epic

[tough cove]

Whenever I see a psyker BBing a bulwark or crusher, I'm happy, cause I don't need to spend my ammo or go into melee with it and then just cool down and chain lightning / flamethrower the entire horde infront of me

[fading orbit]

best thing about bb hands down

[stone wing]

so what you're telling me

zealot charge into flank
spot all specials out of LOS of the psyker

murder trash in cover to reduce shooters

[clear lynx]

anyone know the 8 types of dreg enemy? ive got 7/8 and cant figure out the last one, think its a specialist cause im also "kill 3 of each dreg specialist 2/3"

[stone wing]

vet covers the zealot from things like doggo and football player

also net

[fading orbit]

yes.

net is so annoying for the boys gotta love vet for taking care of those

[twin oasis]

progress carry confirmed to release!

[jagged vigil]

Zealot charges in, kills everyone, then run ahead around the corner. The team turns around and sees slowpoke Psyker among corpses. Then everyone yell: "Psykers OP!"

[stone wing]

mfw I'm just hanging out in the flank and a trapper literally falls from the sky and insta nets me

bro please

[fading orbit]

honestly I think the best setup is probably still all classes but I deffo think psyker's niche is a little too amorphous for right now

maybe just a dmg instead of a speed buff

on bb

[stone wing]

where psyker with RNG manipulation capabilties

lower the accuracy of enemies aiming at allies
add bullet magnetism to ally weapons

as long as you don't nuke your own brain doing it

[jade canyon]

i enjoy psyker a lot- ive been using headpop a lot more since i hit 30

[rapid ermine]

give mind control psyker shit. Make dat rager target anything close to him or some shit like that

[fading orbit]

how is there no galaxy brain emote about psyker in this server yet

[jade canyon]

Just waiting for a damn force sword to appear in the shop its been so long man christ 😔

[broken tangle]

anyone know if hte up close and personal penance for preacher is bugged? I only used my chainsword the entire mission but didnt get it. It was a malice level threat mission as well.

or is it hte entire team tha tneeds to use melee only?

[tough cove]

Earn Blessing

You may also choose to surrender a weapon to Hadron in exchange for a Votive Offering dedicated to one of the weapon’s Blessings. This allows you to extract the Blessings you are interested in from weapons you no longer want, and collect them for use with the Combine or Re-Bless actions.

PSA: Start collecting weapons with blessing you'll want to use on future weapons, so you can sacrifice them when the time comes

[clear lynx]

its not bugged, i got it. if you dc at any point or join half way through a mission it doesnt count

[broken tangle]

oh

thats why i guess

cause fucking error 2007

[clear lynx]

even if you rejoin and the ai didnt shoot it still doesnt count, cost me a good 2 hours just to get

[obtuse owl]

p sure they're adding more

[blissful flower]

Might be a Dreg Monstrosity planned

[mellow sage]

how long does efficency buff last ?

[obtuse owl]

imagine it's just the dreg rager but scaled up 3x lol

[broken tangle]

we need a skinny monstrosity

[onyx iron]

There's no way to get Requisitorium tokens outside of weeklies, right?

[clear lynx]

is plague ogryn not a dreg monster?

[blissful flower]

Honestly a ranged-focused Monster would be neat, idk about design but it'd complement the Plague Ogryn (Melee Tank) and Beast of Nurgle (Area Denial, anti-melee)

[obtuse owl]

idk, maybe could throw in a nurgle space marine but idk if it'd fit with the theme

[pearl night]

Do effects that trigger on repeated hits count a chain weapon special as one hit, or each tick as a hit?

[signal cipher]

Considering that it's nurgle, this is unlikely, unless it's like a nurgeling horde ig?

[broken tangle]

how aobut a bunch of skinny guys balled up into one

so hes still fat

[obtuse owl]

i think it's each tick, which makes them really effective

[cerulean crown]

Dear mother of god I really wish the requirement for challenge 2 was like, level 10

at least not straight up level 1 please

[heavy shuttle]

The assassination boss has ranged and dear god it hurts... Im good with just melee monsters thanks

[obtuse owl]

wym, Uprising difficulty?

[broken tangle]

a sniperboss with full autro snipoer

[cerulean crown]

Whatever the second difficulty is

I don't remember the names

it's just difficulty 2

[tough cove]

funny that lvl 6 is the requirement for malice no? 😛
Endless horde malice, as a lvl 6 XD

[signal cipher]

Weak

[obtuse owl]

the 2nd difficulty isn't particularly far from lvl 1

if people know what they're doing they'll be fine

[fading orbit]

yeah I think a 10 cap on like 3 would be reasonable maybe 8 or something cuz 3 is laughable

[jagged vigil]

Endless horde malice, as a lvl 6 - sounds like a survival horror

[obtuse owl]

yeah lol

[clear lynx]

11 cap for malice, have at least 1 curio

[fading orbit]

maybe but I'd only use that on a dev end to stop people from ruining matches by overestimating themselves

which tbf does happen

[tough cove]

That's why they had the power rating system in vermintide

which was properly tuned

here the level requirements are undertuned

[fading orbit]

yeah I think they're just trying to be good to the players who are legit pretty good at tide games at this point and want more exp

[heavy shuttle]

That crafting post from fatshark had me thinking that the other options had been unlocked.... 😭😭

[tough cove]

as a lvl 6 on malice, you don't have a curio, even as a level 8 you don't have good blue curios, let alone weapons, and only have your first feat

[tough cove]

Not yet, but you can do prep work

[unborn pilot]

is there a limit to how many items you can have?

[lapis raven]

malice at sub level 10 is completely doable lol

[heavy shuttle]

Yes. I enjoy harvesting mats while pox hounds snack on my team 😈

[tough cove]

and weapons

[fading orbit]

imo it's not about how "doable" it is it's just about balancing lobbies

[loud egret]

So... I'm grinding to level 30. I'm trying really hard because I want to try and grind for the chestpiece

[lilac talon]

Full crafting won't even be out on release. Man.

[loud egret]

I do kinda feel like its hella RNG based though 😦

[lilac talon]

That's just a kick in the nuts.

[fading orbit]

better they fix the crashes than make your toys nicer if you can't use em

[sour flower]

wow

but yeah what haalf said

id rather have crash fixes and preventions than a crafting system

[fading orbit]

kinda sad that's the way it is but still it seems like their priorities are straight enough

[tough cove]

The guys working on the crafting system probably aren't teh same guys trying to find (and fix) the cause of the crashes

[fading orbit]

well I doubt they have so many people that they don't divide work

[sour flower]

you realize you have to code a crafting system

and bugs are found in the code

[proper smelt]

There should be a new range dmonster that's just a machine gun in sandbags lol

[sour flower]

why yes i do think they have people who fix stuff and also add stuff

but like

Byeah

[tough cove]

No need to be a smartass, I'm just saying, someone designign the UI isn't going to help fix the random crashes

[unique harbor]

when yo do the abhor the mutant penance for zealot does it need to charge or it also counts when it grabs someone?

[fading orbit]

this may or may not be true, depends on the skillsets of the employees there and we'll probably never know that

If I were a smaller studio I'd hire multi talented people for each job so I could divide work easier

sort of like valve does

[sour flower]

if only they did that for tf2...

[tough cove]

It's pretty easy to assume they won't, people get hired to do a job, that they are hired for and paid for and skilled in, someone 3D modeling or making user interfaces doesn't suddenly know how to python, especially not at the level of a senior developer, who probably doesn't want inexperienced hands working on it in the first place.

[fading orbit]

well that's actually the reason tf2 doesn't get updates because valve has a weird motto of not making their employees work on any one thing for a long time because of like burnout and stuff

it's weird but there's a lot of documentation on that

[sour flower]

letting your employees choose on what they work on is an upside and a downside

but yeah

unrelated

[fading orbit]

I'm basically just saying this about programmers and not like ux/ui people and stuff, but yes I agree that it's probably not many people being split if any

but even one extra is worth it imo

[tough cove]

Fatshark isn't an inexperienced studio, as I'm sure you're aware, nor are they a self-centered company whom doesn't care about their product, I'm sure they're doing what they can.

Let's say this is caused by nvidia drivers, then they're also at the mercy of nvidia's investigation and prioritizing, it's not just "Put more hands on crashes now"

[fading orbit]

Like I said I agree with you all I'm saying is that focus is important and that they are being focused?

[rapid ermine]

There a way to switch my hairstyle?

[fading orbit]

barber right?

is there a lvl req on that?

[stuck ridge]

I think there's a bug for the Counterfire Perk. 1.) Highlighted Scab Shooters aren't counting as designated targets, and 2) Ranged Kills aren't refreshing the duration.

[blissful flower]

Barber is to the left of the shop, in a room in the wall

[fringe panther]

I just did 2 missions of scriptures with 3 + 3, ended up not registering any and its stuck at 15 😦

Is there a bug with this issue right now?

[tough cove]

I'm sure they are, have faith ^^

[fading orbit]

Yeah, not sure why people specifically in this discord are so doomer about this game considering vt2 exists? Like it might take a bit that's kinda all. Not like they're abandoning the game anytime soon

[paper holly]

[stuck ridge]

It isn't even released yet and people act like it's abandoned

[tough cove]

That's what I'm telling my friends as well, if you're so worried that there's not enough content to satisfy you, just wait a year or so, like VT2 wasn't perfect on launch either, but after a bit of polish and refinement it was solid, and after extra content was added it became a pure gem.

[hard hollow]

Because they didn't play VT2 and are going in with the same expectations held that other studios so.

[fading orbit]

you'd think people invested enough to join a server about a game would like, care lol

[hard hollow]

Spite goes very far unfortunately. They join out of spite.

[mellow ruin]

swear to god #general-chat is the saltiest of saltmines i have seen in a long time

[fading orbit]

gameplay help is general for intellectuals

[fading orbit]

jk don't fill it up with non advice

[quick swift]

Well

[gray elk]

did you try restarting the game yet

[fringe panther]

Hmm i crashed enough times as reset i guess, still didnt register the last 2 missions

[gray elk]

weird, might wanna check forums for if anyone else isn't gaining progress on weeklies

[tough cove]

Yes I never go there anymore, this channel is for good feels

[cerulean crown]

This is the first time I've felt burning jealousy

[tired crown]

I've had the same problem, currently stuck at 24/25 missions completed.

[fringe panther]

Yeah my complete 25 missions are stick at 23/25 as well

[tired crown]

Glad it's not just me

[fringe panther]

I hate scripture runs so this really sucks to know my last few missions didnt count

[tired crown]

Same, I don't want to have to reroll these when they're so close to completion.

[tough cove]

If I only use 1 charge, will the other already start recharging or do I need to expend the 2nd charge as well before it starts recharging?

[tough cove]

What's wrong with scriptures, at least it's not grimoires and usually the team doesn't need 3 medkits and an ammocrate anyway, unless it's heresy/damnation maybe, but I wouldn't be bothering with script runs there anyway honestly, if you're farming that just go to malice or uprising

[fringe panther]

Ah it just slows down the run a lot by having to comb through the map

[junior portal]

Each charge is on its own separate cooldown.

[coral badger]

Are mission types comepletely random? I cant get "Espionage" type mission

[tall shadow]

Does anyone have the second helmet from penance for pysker? I’m trying to see what the 3rd one looks like

[spark tusk]

how do you get this helmet?

[unreal aurora]

Is there a button vent plasma gun or do I just have to let it cool down naturally

[unborn pilot]

it vents when you reload

[coral badger]

mouse 5

[wet bloom]

How important is power? I have a las gun I really like but its low power.

[cursive torrent]

what braced autogun is the one everyone seems to like?

should i be buying this based jst on the fact that its a 423 blue with a decent blessing?

[gray elk]

more power just means your weapon has more points to distribute amongst the stats, if it's a large difference in power it's pretty important, but it really depends on what stats you need and if the weapon distributed them how you want

[quiet wharf]

my completed penances still bugged... any ideas to get them or...?

[craggy vale]

so anyone else having a problem with a black screen after the ready check

[bitter summit]

which one? 🤔

[craggy vale]

unstable peril if you like to shake hands with danger

[thorn imp]

cant get the 50 kills after flashbang to save my life

[rapid ermine]

Jesus christ why does heavy sword feel like absolute garbage after getting used to axe

"lemme just slowly swing this big piece of shit while doing absolutely nothing, when i could be just smacking heads off in single swings with my trusty axe."

[severe bridge]

is this any good?

[pulsar tundra]

phbbtt... shovel supremacy will win in the end

[severe bridge]

would rather wait for an eviscerator tho

[pastel canyon]

Ranged units changing to melee when ur in their face has to be more consistent jesus christ man, i turn my back away from 3-4 enemies because my teammate is literally attacking them with their sword and 3 of them within 2 feet of the teammate dont switch to melee, its so inconsistent.

[rapid ermine]

Its best when there is 2-3 ranged dudes standing in a row. You charge in and cleave ALL of them. The middle one slowly swaps to melee while the other 2 just go " BRRRRRRRRR BITCH" with their rifles

[tough cove]

I think it is yes, I'd buy it, especially with the high mobility and finesse, good perks to supplement the special as well

[cold tiger]

not really gameplay help, but are there any more weapons coming with launch?

[tough cove]

Yes apparently, do I know which ones? No sorry.

[rare cliff]

When is disruption coming back??

[severe bridge]

tempted but i really wanna wait for an eviscerator

[cold tiger]

nice

thx

[severe bridge]

thanks for the advice : )
\

[rich smelt]

Helmet unlocked. Desire to purify infidels increased.

[tough cove]

Yea evis also pretty gud, I find the faster reaction time and flexibility of the chainsword to be more to my liking, but evis is great too.
If I were in your shoes though I'd buy simply because I'd be afraid that the RNG gods would only give me trash the next 20 shop refreshes

[tough cove]

I really don't like the zealot helmet XD

[rich smelt]

and who does?

[tough cove]

Good point

Perhaps it instill discomfort into the heretics?

[topaz abyss]

I also desire helmer

Someday ...

[upper karma]

How did u get into a disruption mission? Havent seen them spawn

[tough cove]

They were in the beta for a bit on the first day before being removed

My only character that qualifies is my veteran 🙂

[upper karma]

Oh i see, damn i missed it by a day :/

[dim wind]

Hello Veteran Players, Is there an easy way to beat a mission without taking melee damage?

[rapid ermine]

dodge

😄

[gleaming topaz]

curio wounds or max health for ogryn ?

[tough cove]

Both

Not even kidding

[gleaming topaz]

what's wounds anyway i dont get it

[maiden burrow]

Do blue items cap out at around 400ish?

[wet bloom]

splits your hp bar into more chunks

[wintry silo]

Is the penance "warp battery" for psyker bugged right now? I've maintained max warp charges forever and never got it

[gleaming topaz]

and what's the use of this

[wet bloom]

The more bars you have that arent purple the more times you can be downed

[heavy shuttle]

More times to go down. Each down takes a wound.

[gleaming topaz]

what if i rarely go down tho

[wet bloom]

and the more hp you keep after a down

[wet bloom]

then simply go for something else

[white oasis]

could someone take a bolter as a veteran and use the Perk sniper and tell me if the Damage actually went down instead of up?

[thick kernel]

Warp Absorption
Wrack and Ruin
Psychic Communium
Kinetic Shield
Kinetic Flayer
Ascendant Blaze

Opinions on my Psyker build?

[gleaming topaz]

i mean in 20 matches i didnt go down once

lol

[spiral zinc]

What's the best anti ranged suppression squad weapon for the veteran?

[clear plover]

Run the police station assassination mission with the camouflage perk. Stay in the back and be sure to stand still as much as possible so the perk activates, this includes during hoards and bossfights. Feel free to shoot, it doesn't break your camo and be sure to have your head on a swivel the whole time.

[stoic heath]

so can anyone give me a general guide on how to do movement in melee so I dont get hit? also does dodge give you melee invincibility frames?

[wet bloom]

If you mean yo dont get suppressed, shotgun and recon feel like suppresion doesnt matter

[wet bloom]

It does not which is why you typically want to keep dodging in the same direction

[spiral zinc]

mainly I'm trying to cover my team but pushing into high ground ranged squads is rough

[upper mountain]

are shop cosmetics only reskins of what we already have?

[spiral zinc]

and I'm not always in control of what my other teammates are doing

[wet bloom]

easiest way is to circle the enemy if possible, if your not able to then you have to be keeping an eye out so you dont dodge into attacks, and if you do just make sure to block

[upper karma]

Boltgun is nice for covering teammates long reload tho

[wet bloom]

Thats my main goal and I just use shotgun, as long as your hitting head shots it can one shot all the basic shooters from suprisingly far, taking the sniper perk makes it even farther though I prefer gernades regen so I can take out a squad with them

[grand coral]

I'm level 25, Should I buy a legendary sword or wait till level 30?

[spiral zinc]

I do have a decent shotgun but that single shell reload felt bad...can give it another go...and I'm still looking for a decent bolter

[wet bloom]

Could use the perk to get 20% faster when the clip isint empty, after first shell it gets the buff which is nice

[regal agate]

anyone found settings that don't have the game crash multiple times every single mission? this latest patch has made the game functionally unplayable

[tough cove]

Trader has nothing?

[spark tusk]

same

[primal osprey]

Just give it a bit

[rapid ermine]

everything on max has not crashed once so far. Update your drivers if possible

last patch i got some random lag spikes until i updated gpu drivers. after that has been smooth sailing again

[tough cove]

Still hasn't loaded 😛

[bold bronze]

Yea, this hour might just be fucked.

[crimson stag]

Malice Endless Horde assassination speed runs be wild

[tough cove]

yea, it's loaded now and when I try to buy something it takes like 30 secodns to process

[lone flower]

Are there already informations about the criteria for unlocking the insignia?

[crimson stag]

Chaos doesn't care about 6 inches of reinforced plasteel

[dim prairie]

What's better on a flamer, more burn or more flat damage

[dull carbon]

I've been trying to make the ripper work but after getting a good stubber I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would use the ripper. How are people getting the ripper to actually work for them? The special attack feels weak as hell and it feels like it runs out of ammo way too fast, while the stubber I can literally run for an entire mission

[bold bronze]

Good shout--I brought it up and just tabbed out for a minute and it finally showed up.

[slow fog]

Ripper can kill a mauler in a couple of left clicks on difficulty 3

[lofty bolt]

it's a shotgun, use it for hoards

[dull carbon]

Yeah but the stubber does that better

[regal agate]

i'll give that a shot, just annoying because it was fine until yesterday

[dull carbon]

Way better

I can delete an entire horde in half a stubber mag

[lofty bolt]

idk it also staggers elites

[crimson stag]

Burn. Dots are strong as fuck in this game

[dull carbon]

So does my melee

[regal agate]

dammit i already have the latest drivers

[dull carbon]

Hell stubber staggers most elites too

[dim prairie]

👍 thanks

[slender epoch]

how to do friends will be friends penance?

[dull carbon]

With friends

[slender epoch]

u gotta be

[astral peak]

after ten game with multiple crash ,they gon do me dirty like this

precongnition is probably , if not ,one of the worst bless

[rich smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jr1cv0EyHM

What is this they posted on #📢news-bulletin

Boss? Class?

[lilac talon]

Yes, Heretic Class.

You want it?

[lilac talon]

I literally was going to bring up the same picture if had said yes

lmao

[lyric yarrow]

Random question, how do I take on a Crusher as Vet lol. My shots ping off no matter where, there aint no weakpoint xD

[worldly flame]

what does "less than one Wound" in Just a Flesh Wound preacher penance mean? do all the other wounds need to be purple or just missing health is enough?

[surreal kiln]

Two questions: 1. Should I save up my gold or just spend it on whatever I like in the shop? I just started playing. 2. Is there any tricks to leveling up quicker? I know higher difficulty increases exp gained but my gear is garbage so I can only spam the lowest tier difficulty

[burnt sierra]

the latter and you have to have less than one bar remaining

[astral peak]

That's the neat part, you dont
unless you have bolter or plasma

[crimson stag]

Likely the Daemon Host, last Horror we haven't seen yet.

[dire ridge]

power sword fucks him up

[astral peak]

other wise just melee

[lyric yarrow]

Aight, so i know to ignore them as target.

[hard hollow]

What is the recommended worker thread number to use?

[burnt sierra]

1. spend it on high-roll greys/greens/blues and gear with good Blessings on them, since you will be able to transfer them to other gear when they fully implement crafting
2. just speedrun difficulty 2s, takes about 15 to 20h for one character to go from 1 to 30 if you rush it

[toxic gulch]

Does anyone know if the full release is gonna be better optimised?

[hard hollow]

I've been putting it to max but I've also heard to not do that.

[lyric yarrow]

Nah I am doing my job properly, targeting everything ranged+specials. Small or melee stuff comes only afterwards ^^

[dire ridge]

theoretically more = better, but not all of them

[astral peak]

1 if you can stand low fps

[hard hollow]

Mine goes up to 18 able to be used.

[astral peak]

i've tried 1-18 ,above 2 i just constantly crash lol

[dire ridge]

17 should be good then

[fast roost]

How does stamina work? Like I have a dagger with 3 bars and a large axe with 6. Whats teh difference, and is it drain rate or what?

[mental juniper]

so what's easier between current bugged endless heresy and damnation

[gentle gyro]

What is +2 Rending on weapons?

[burnt sierra]

armor shredding (reduction) basically, +2 just means that it will do 2 stacks of armor-shred per hit

[blissful bluff]

guys should i buy this shottie?

The stats are pretty nasty

[dire ridge]

looks good

buy if its regular coins

[blissful bluff]

its not regular coins

its 1.5k

[dire ridge]

personally i wouldn't, go for it if u like shotties tho

[blissful bluff]

i use flamethowers but it looks so good

[hushed raptor]

Hey, does the update this morning in Service-updates confirm that beta progress will not reset?

[slow fog]

yes

[brave wagon]

Sorry for the dumb question. cant find any info on how many meters the bullrush ability move with the unstoppable perk?

[tepid minnow]

is it bad that I'm thinking about deleting and releveling my lvl 30 Zealot?
I think it'll feel better to grind Plasteel and Diamantite that way rather than just grinding for it with no other progress to measure xD

[slow fog]

Does up close and personal have the correct difficulty listed?

The 100% melee penance

[tight shale]

Imo no. You get a lot more mats in higher difficulties

[lone flower]

Are all 7 Mission Types aviable in Beta? Just saw 5 of them until now

[clear lynx]

back again, is there only 6 mission types currently available? cause i have 6/7 done for "praise the god emperor"

[heavy shuttle]

correct

[clear lynx]

cool i can stop worrying about it then

[tepid minnow]

yeah.. I tried Heretic(4) difficulty and got flattened hard
so I'm been stickign with malice

but sometimes it feels like even malice got tougher

[burnt sierra]

yea, it does, though you can use a flamer if you want, it doesn't count towards "bullets fired"

[tepid minnow]

apparently that was patched

[rich cobalt]

correct, people have hats because for the first six hours of the preorder beta the 7th was available before they had to pull it for map issues (it was possible to get stuck and render it incompletable or something) so they got the one you were missing back then

[burnt sierra]

well, scratch that then, not that it matters since 3 is very easy when compared to bugged 4 and regular 5

[stone wing]

blues should be that rating, not purples
ie it's a low rating

[hard hollow]

One of my constant and main complaints rn is that the matchmaking once you hit 30 is still broken.

[burnt sierra]

anyone gotten the 'Indefatigable' frame yet, tho?

[hollow portal]

Question, for the Vantage Point Penace im Missing 2 Missions, but i just dont know which these are. Like i have checked and it seems like that i didnt manage to complete an espionage and an Disruption Mission. Are they already ingame?

[tight shale]

No idea why they still haven't fixed Heresy being stuck on Endless Horde. It makes the jump to that from Malice absolutely miserable.

[burnt sierra]

disruption was only available for the first few hours since the map it is/was on was causing crashes/issues and espionage is not on rotation right now, but they exist, yes

[hollow portal]

So i assume i just have to wait until i can finish the penace right?

[burnt sierra]

correct

[dire ridge]

in what way

[lone flower]

Can anybody tell me how to get Insignia? Do i need to ask the Emperor for them?

[tight shale]

Same for me. I missed Disruption the first day. Just waiting for that to come back to get my hat.

[burnt sierra]

penances, e.g. killing 5k scabs iirc is one of them and completing 50 missions as Veteran, Zealot, Psyker or Ogryn

[dire ridge]

penances

[tight shale]

For which I need Disruption to come back, yes.

[hard hollow]

It like puts you into a queue where you will only get other level 30 players.

So it takes forever.

[lone flower]

So penances are the only way?

[dire ridge]

lmao i replied to the wrong dude

[burnt sierra]

that is just how the matchmaking in this game works, as it seems, it prefers players close to your level over different levels, then searches for varying ones and if it doesn't find any within about 30s you get put into a lobby with bots until someone joins

[burnt sierra]

correct

[lone flower]

Seems like until now there are just 6of7 mission types released yet

[lone flower]

ty

[dire ridge]

true but it's still pretty easy to find games except for damnation

[burnt sierra]

all 7 have been released, 1 is just not available because the map was causing issues and another because it's not in rotation right now

[dire ridge]

damnation is almost impossible to find in pubs

[lone flower]

ok, but same result: not aviable 😄

[burnt sierra]

yea, I was just clarifying since you said 'released'

[hard hollow]

Yeah, and that should be changed lol. That is an issue. It shouldn't just be level 30s. A buffer should be in place, sure, but not ONLY level 30s

[tranquil lark]

Hello, i'm looking for a concrete answer on gearscore. anyone know what cap is? and does it take into account gear in your inventory? so if I have a 350 gun the store wont drop above a 375 or w/e.
I havent seen anything above 408 but ive been told people have gear well above 500. around 550+
is it just rng or what?

[forest island]

Anyone know what error code 9999 is?

[lone flower]

Is there a possibility to force playing with bots only?

[crimson stag]

on launch there is

[burnt sierra]

cap? no idea.
no. Hedge said it is based on your level, the stats and the tier (quality) of the perks.
if you heard someone say 550+ they were most likely lying, 500 is doable, but I've never seen anything above 507 so far on the entire discord.
yes, it's rng.

[worldly flame]

"mission aborted" at the post-mission briefing screen wtf

[tranquil lark]

so it's just perks quality? is that damage, stability, mobility, the +20 % damage to blah blah and the others on the bottom or both?
also want to know if i can get higher damage and whatnot on some weapons or if they are what they are

i did see we can use crafting to up the blessings

[bold bronze]

All you have to do is take an item of each upgradeable quality (grey/green/blue/purple) and see the maximum possible bonus-then add it all together, then add on top of the seemingly 400 max grey item power.

[burnt sierra]

well, to clarify by perks I meant 'Blessings' they are the max 2 squares you can have at the bottom of your weaponry, they have Tiers indicated by the lines on the sides (I to IV) and by stats I mean the bars, the sum of them contributes towards power

regarding crafting you should check the latest post they made, I'll attach the picture for you

[hybrid wren]

So question, the penance vantage point for sharpshooter is there anyway to track which missions you've done? I'm still stuck on 6/7 and I already see people running around with their penance helmets

[burnt sierra]

to track them you have to remember or write them down
and to answer your possible question, that is because they played during the first few hours of PBT when disruption was still available

[hybrid wren]

Ah okay fair I was not able to play till the day after the pbt launched.

[stone wing]

560 is likely the theoretical cap for a mastercrafted weapon
there are multiple reports of grays of 370-390 meaning the cap for a gray is likely 400
the maximum gap between gray and mastercrafted is 160 if every perk and blessing rolls as high as it can

[bold bronze]

Wow...so...the random BS properties system of VT2 is still here, but now with ever increasing costs if you don't get what you want. Way to fuck that part up even harder.

[fading tree]

actually it's best if im here

alright so how do I check what server im on? is it the launcher menu?

[terse pond]

what autoguns should i be looking for on vet, if any?

[storm laurel]

braced if you wanna melt hordes, otherwise they suck

[paper holly]

autoguns suck overall, doesnt do anything well

[spice sigil]

burst one is aight

[bold bronze]

Braced autoguns are pretty fun. I found the aimed ones to be too jumpy to be able to aim them properly.

[cerulean crown]

How bad is this going to hurt on the downgrading the raw damage?

[fading tree]

huh for some reason I was doing a lot better with autoguns than lasguns for a long while

[blazing kiln]

so, how exactly is it possible to get that zealot "just a flesh wound" penance without using an exploit? how can you complete a heresy or above in 10 minutes?

[terse pond]

ive been loving the las ever since i got the helbore mk1

[dire ridge]

not bad at all thanks to slaughterer

[slow fog]

OK well

[lilac talon]

Does Shred work on different targets? or only the same target?

[burnt sierra]

look for autoguns with great blessings on them so you can transfer them to your boltgun/plasmagun/melta (when it releases)/etc. once they fully implement crafting

[fading tree]

speaking of penances-

I did the melee only penance

like 3 times

[rigid wasp]

Anyone else getting mission aborted error today at the result screen? Happened twice

[slow fog]

Whoever told me the no shooting penance has the right difficulty either was wrong, or my game bugged

[fading tree]

without drawing my shooting weapon

on malice-

[turbid moon]

Are we going to be able to recycle weapon for scraps in the future?

[fading tree]

why does it still not count as completed?

[slow fog]

You must need to do it on Heresy Raptor

[burnt sierra]

well, it worked for me, and I haven't done a single melee only run on Heresy+ so idk

[fading tree]

it says "malice and above" for me

huh odd

but alrighty

[bold bronze]

You can currently scrap it for gold, and later you'll be able to scrap them to keep their blessings. That's probably all we'll be seeing.

[restive tulip]

With a gear rating jump that big, you'll probably end dealing even more damage than before, and your lightsaber mode is probably gonna kill trash mobs in 1 hit anyway

[slow fog]

There are multiple penances that have the wrong difficulty listed

[fading tree]

thanks-

[rigid wasp]

It works on malice @fading tree

I did it

[minor flower]

I got from a malice mat farm, so it's free real estate.

[fading tree]

wait so why does it not work for me-

[cerulean crown]

Gear rating only affects your stats to distribute into the weapon

[rigid wasp]

Games buggy as shit @fading tree

[slow fog]

I literally just did it on malice and didnt get it

[rigid wasp]

See above

[fading tree]

does throwing grenades count as shooting?

[rich smelt]

oof this looks pretty good

[rigid wasp]

Idr if I used any

[fading tree]

true true

[hollow flame]

That's kind of... good

[fading tree]

also how do I check what server im in?

[minor flower]

I already have wack uptime on my ability as a horde clearing sharpshooter

[tough cove]

kek

[minor flower]

edge harder

[fading tree]

I assume there isn't a way to

alright so I have lowered the graphics to the lowest possible setting

stopped ragdolls and turned off gore

yet im still sliding around like the floor has just been mopped on

need help-

[torpid grotto]

Anyone know which difficulty and map is best for mat farming?

[minor flower]

update your drivers?

[tough cove]

I'd say Malice cause it has a high success chance even in pubs and higher difficulties are more likely to give large stashes instead of small ones

[coarse sable]

trying in upgrade my thunderhammer and it is not working am i doing something wrong or is it just buggy/not active ?

[fading tree]

Ccleaner says my drivers are updated

[minor flower]

That and hersey seems to be buged with endless hordes

[rose hedge]

uhh so is the vantage point penance even possible to complete

[fading tree]

however

im no tech savy thingy

[burnt sierra]

3/4 assassination on transit hub or whatever it's called 15ish min run for 45 Diamantine (on Malice, dunno how much exactly it was on Heresy), if that's not available I run Strikes, they take a little longer tho

[fading tree]

I assume I'll have to buy some new graphics cards or stuff

I don't get this-

[burnt sierra]

yes, if you played during the first few hours of PBT or you wait until they make Disruption available again

[mellow sage]

how long does the efficiency buff last ?

[fading tree]

I feel like a grandpa

[clear lynx]

is there a key or something that shows what all the icons means? (example, the different icons weapons have for light and heavy attacks)

[dull carbon]

Is it just me or do some mission victories not seem to be counting for weeklies?

[smoky hinge]

Im getting disconnected with a error 2007

Can anyone help?

[dull carbon]

#technical-support

[fading tree]

alright im gonna be embarassed to ask but

how do I update my drivers / which ones do I update?

[dull carbon]

GPU drivers, go to your manufacturer website

*graphics card

[clear lynx]

if you have an nvidia card, get the gforce experience app, itll let you update your drivers through that so you dont have to go searching

[fading tree]

thanks-

[spice radish]

does difficulty matter for getting crafting materials?

[river ibex]

Is it better to just stack health now since toughness is kinda useless with the bleedthrough?

[sudden phoenix]

Toughness is still good, it just works different than health

[rigid wasp]

is this good for my psyker?

or should i wait to see if theres a force sword

the rolls look really tasty

[robust willow]

am I missing something? how are that good rolls?

[hard goblet]

A reminder this exists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QlBkFN9RRw

[bitter halo]

For some reason, I have yet to see a single gold item.

[rigid wasp]

ill give this a watch

[stone wing]

if it's not above 460 when mastercrafted, it's not worth milk coins

you could argue it never is

[bitter halo]

bout to watch it myself. Noticed I got 2 lightning staves with vastly different charge rates... but they seem to both charge up at the same rate

[balmy basin]

For the fellow Zealots, does anyone know how Holy Revenant is calculated?

[soft wing]

from what I gathered so far, surge staff is great for cc, while the voidstrike staff is for the large high damage piercing projectile?

[dense solstice]

Can someone help me in achieving a penance?

[hasty nebula]

This worth it?

[dire ridge]

probably not

[fading tree]

alright am I doing the update driver thingy correctly?

[rigid wasp]

if you don't like the playstyle, I'd say no. only really worth getting stuff you like the playstyle of tbh.

[dire ridge]

yup

[fading tree]

thank you all-

[rigid wasp]

Yeah that's it. Gluck have fun

[fading tree]

I'd give you high fives if I could but

unfortunately I ate my hands

[slow fog]

Got it. On Malice - game is just buggy

Grenades dont count

[unreal torrent]

whats the strat to get the kill for dashing on a mutant?

[feral gust]

why do they call it endless horde instead of just incrementing the level by +1?
isn't endless horde just the next level up

[open jewel]

having the same with my thunderhammer right now

[balmy basin]

Thunder Hammer

[teal kernel]

for the mutant one, you need to have good timing-ish. Make sure that you hit mutant without stopping

[bold scaffold]

I'm the one who done ( I think) every mission/map but still have 6/7 Penitance ?

[clear lynx]

there isnt a 7th mission type yet, i was confused about that one for a while too

[sudden phoenix]

Raising difficulty increases the health values of enemies in addition to spawning more of them, so it doesn't exactly make it strictly the next difficulty higher

[teal kernel]

anyone done the "just a flesh wound" preacher penance raw yet?

without cheese

[unreal torrent]

So does the f ability for the preacher count as a dodge?

[clear lynx]

you can cheese it? how

[teal kernel]

apparently queuing into a lobby, getting to 1 wound and waiting for like 4-5 mins depending, then wiping

says "completing the mission" not successfully

[balmy basin]

Assassination, low horde. Get three other people to speedrun

[uncut verge]

Other “complete the mission” tasks require success (like weeklies)

So it might be a bug that gets fixed

[teal kernel]

probs'll get patched ye

karkin brutal tho

[uncut verge]

Though I can’t imagine ever succeeding with that

[teal kernel]

cheers! will try

[balmy basin]

Sewer assassination variant. The other one has an Interrogator section

And that wastes time

The sewer only has an elevator waiting section

That said if you do get a Plague Ogryn or another mini-boss just restart

Ogryn and other zealots are better for the speedrun

[uncut verge]

Also, “Fewer Enemies” isn’t currently in rotation

[balmy basin]

RNG is frustrating with it

[uncut verge]

They’re “fixing” The modifiers right now so only Endless is showing up

Hopefully patch on Monday brings back other modifiers

Sick of endless lol

[balmy basin]

There's Nothing But the Abyss has been a bit more frustrating to me

[uncut verge]

And there’s 5-6 modified missions every rotation. Often on top of secondary missions too.

Really annoying

[balmy basin]

I'm not sure how the perk's healing is calculated

[teal kernel]

does downing mess with the timer?

[balmy basin]

No

[quick veldt]

So when can we expect disruption to come back? Release?

[balmy basin]

You just need to be below one wound before the 2:30 min mark

[uncut verge]

Only in the time it takes to get health back down

[queen moth]

any recommendations for long bomb

[uncut verge]

At the latest, maaaaybe Monday

[uncut verge]

Practice the quick toss in meat grinder

[balmy basin]

It feels like there's an integer overflow going on with the Holy Revenant perk or could be bugged

[uncut verge]

Get a feel for the angle and distance. For me I found, on level ground, that looking up so their heads just disappear at, IDK, 30-40m? (This is what you need to get a feel for) worked best

And then try bombing static unengaged enemies and incoming hordes where there’s enough clearance and distance

I got mine against a horde

[tight shale]

Tfw you're certain you're about to get the 100% accuracy penance...but apparently missed a shot somewhere

[gritty prism]

I have a few questions. 1 I thought toughness was a stagger/effect counter. once depleted, you get staggered and all. no? 2 If the Zealot has no more invulnerability what is the point in the zealot anymore?

[stable prairie]

how do you reach the various threshold pips on your Circle of Trust & Class Missions?

[lilac talon]

is Hab Dreyko still bugged?

[balmy basin]

Thy Wrath Be Swift exists

No longer staggered

[dense solstice]

Are we gonna get private lobbies eventually? Trying to do Penances in Public is just very stressing and annoying

[ocean flower]

Yes

[heavy shuttle]

Dev's have talked about it, its coming just slowly.

[bitter summit]

what are some of the best Autoguns?

[fresh void]

Anyone know what Ogryn Personality calls Zealots "Shouty"?

[formal atlas]

Has anyone seen some perks that actually affect character abilities/stats and not weapon attacks?

[heavy shuttle]

There is a 'refresh character ability' perk.

[lone flower]

You also have so many crashes?