gameplay-help

[sterile yarrow]

They should give the Ogryn way more toughness tbh, should have 200 like the vet gets.

[uncut verge]

Las guns don’t suppress at all. Auto guns do better at suppressing

[echo root]

Ogryn would be OP with more toughness

Just stack +% health

With 100 toughness I am most of the times the one with most HP when we get to healing

[bold saffron]

+% HP and Wounds

[heavy shuttle]

Veteran Sharpshooter question:

Counterfire Feat lvl 30 slot
Volley Fire now Designates All Scab Shooters as Priority Targets

Killing a Designated Enemy during Volley Fire refreshes its duration.

My question is, if killing a designated enemy should refresh Volley Fires duration, why does killing scabs not refresh its duration?

[coral umbra]

The problem is suppressing isn't really worth it when the XII lasgun can just one tap enemies in the same shots autoguns can suppress with

[dire ridge]

bugged

[heavy shuttle]

Known?

[echo root]

And if you are standing around as Ogryn doing nothing. You are playing wrong, not your team

[dire ridge]

ye

[heavy shuttle]

KK, thanks.

[sterile yarrow]

Ogryn gets shredded on upper difficulties. Slab shield is basically mandatory.

[uncut verge]

Yeah, lasguns hill at range. Auto suppresses

[coral umbra]

Well yes, but if I'm dead I also am not doing anything * wrong reply

[lapis raven]

when'd you try out ogryn? enemies not swapping to melee got fixed mostly

[stoic heath]

yup

[lapis raven]

also nah shield isn't mandatory (although i can only speak for diff4), you just need to have good enough teammates

[full zephyr]

good idea, cheers

[coral umbra]

Before the wave of patches, I just haven't gone back

[uncut verge]

The swap to make helps a lot

[nova cipher]

What is the Collateral stat for on the heavy bolter?

[elfin hill]

When will the two deactivated mission types be re-added into the game so i can do my penance?

[lapis raven]

yeah def try again; personally i struggled a bit with enjoying ogryn until i realised my entire point isnt to get kills but to disrupt

[frosty summit]

What do reticle/ hit marker color changes mean? White/ Red/ Orange/ Blue is what I've seen

[cursive citrus]

Enemies swap to melee if you have melee I've found

[lapis raven]

btw as a useful strat, whenever someone gets grabbed or eaten your ogryn F will distrupt that and kick 'em out of the animation

[coral umbra]

Yeah, I just found on higher difficulties that a shock staff or honestly just power swords focusing on melee kills were creating more space than ogryns

[cursive citrus]

If I close with a lasgun, they keep blasting away until I swap

[lapis raven]

white = damage, orange = crit, blue = blocked by armour iirc @frosty summit

[sterile yarrow]

How many enemies in a row it can pen through.

[uncut verge]

White is hit. Red is kill. Yellow is crit/weak point. Blue is hitting over shields/doing nothing/hitting allies

@frosty summit

[velvet yarrow]

worth or wait for a better reroll?

[rigid wasp]

Personally, I've seen ogryns shore up and save teams more often than zealots or sharpshooters, though perhaps zealots and sharpshooters are better at keeping that situation from happening? I wouldn't say so but I dunno, they seem powerful to me

[coral umbra]

So I feel that at a hypothetical top level where the ogryn's buffed revive doesn't come up, they don't feel as powerful

[lapis raven]

power sword's op rn so don't really consider it fully tbh

[stoic heath]

red means kill, orange means a crit or headshot/weakspot hit, white means a normal hit, and blue means your hitting an ally or armor is blocking your damage

[south vessel]

is it normal for the heavy eviscerator to stop to do what's essentially a rev'd hit on heavy attacks?

[coral umbra]

Yeah, I think that's fair, zealot and vet are notably stronger classes atm and do need to be tuned.

[sonic quail]

Colorblind check
If one day it’s all grey, well, you’re Colorblind

[cerulean crown]

I think Ogryn and Psyker need to be brought up to Zealot and Vet's level

[lapis raven]

nah honestly zealot and vet aren't super strong it's just a few weapons that are overtuned

psyker and ogryn are fine as is

[coral umbra]

Idk, I do run 300 toughness atm, with the easiest toughness generation

[stoic heath]

you will also hear a metaic crunching sound when you head a headshot or weakspothit

metalic

[rigid wasp]

I wouldn't say zealot and vet are noticeably stronger, they do have some nice weapons though

[lapis raven]

psyker could maybe do with a small damage boost on brainburst alongside a peril increase too; at least that's what i'd like personally, but it's not fully required

[dire ridge]

vet is absolutely broken rn, will be even stronger when his bugs get fixed

[lapis raven]

toughness is useless in melee though

[uncut verge]

But I want power creep

[frosty summit]

Can you get multiple crit/ headhits with a melee horizontal swing?

[lapis raven]

chip damage will go through anyway even if you have toughness

[stoic heath]

yes

[uncut verge]

It reduces damage by 90% on first hit, wdym

[stoic heath]

just not on the same target

[lapis raven]

still taking chip damage though

just don't get hit instead 9head

[coral umbra]

Yeah but not enough ime to matter. Healing is plentiful and vet has a few solid melee weapons that create space

[uncut verge]

Yeah, you’re supposed to avoid taking melee damage

[dire ridge]

you can tank the chip damage without any problems

[lapis raven]

vet weapons don't create enough space, especially on diff 3/4

(besides like, power sword)

[stoic heath]

thats what nades are for

[coral umbra]

I found the chain sword did a solid job getting me out of melee mobs

[lapis raven]

true the infinite nade build is pretty fun, but that's on a 60 second delay now

[coral umbra]

And yeah, that also barely happens

[lapis raven]

chain sword's good but you need someone to take the pressure off

[uncut verge]

I just got my first chain sword

[coral umbra]

Idk, on 4 I've not ever struggled with melee pressure as vet

[uncut verge]

Is fun

[signal cipher]

Tbh I agree, I only find joy using the charge to gap close and the kickback of all things

[slow fog]

I got my first chainaxe for zealot but I have to level up before I can use it. Got a chain axe before a chain sword lmao

[crystal barn]

do the Ogryn cleavers actually differ in any way or nah?

[lapis raven]

playing ogryn i've smashed so many larger armoured guys to the side so the vet and whatnot could break off and pull out a bolter or something to delete people

they do yeah @crystal barn their attack patterns are different

[rigid wasp]

what is broken about vet, if I may ask? the only thing I can think of is that he gets exclusive access to the powersword which is really powerful but I'm hard pressed to think of anything else

[dire ridge]

the only thing vet struggles with are shield ogryns

[lapis raven]

i mean, discounting the power sword, eeh?

[rigid wasp]

shield ogryns are dealt with by bolters very easily but I still think bolter is more suited to zealot than vet tbh

[lapis raven]

the more powerful ranged weapons need someone else taking pressure off you to actually pull them out and blast someone

[crystal barn]

guess I didn't notice properly

[stoic heath]

vet struggles hard with dudes that have a lot of super armor, you need brainburst for that

[sage glacier]

grenades, a lot of ammo, gun do big damage

[slow fog]

Psyker stronk

[coral umbra]

They get to stack toughness, have a fairly strong and regenerating grenade, and their dps output is gnarly with the XII , along with yeah the power sword is insane, and one of the easiest toughness regenerations

[lapis raven]

i've seen enough peeps complaining about the bolter's equip time lol

[dire ridge]

powersword is the best melee weapon, kantrael xii is the best ranged weapon, your traits make you almost immune to ranged fire and 200 base toughness (300 with curios) makes you amazing at melee

[lapis raven]

"if you use these weapons that are obviously going to get nerfed"

cmon man there's a reason we're leaving those out of the equation

[coral umbra]

I mean, ime psyker's power also is rooted in their class weapons as well

[lapis raven]

those are innately balanced though

[dire ridge]

powersword and chain sword/axe specials do great against armor

[lapis raven]

power sword overshadows all other melee options

can't speak for the kantrael, havent used it

[signal cipher]

It makes sense, it's a weapon made for something at least 3 feet taller then you

[stoic heath]

I didnt say it was impossible but its not where he thrives

[slow fog]

imagine thinking the powersword overshadows the force sword

[lapis raven]

i think an astartes pattern bolter would shatter your shoulder; stander bois get downscaled patterns

[coral umbra]

It one shots basic enemies with a body shot and can kill a reaper with accurate headshots in maybe a second, Specifically referring to the XII

[lapis raven]

@slow fog it absolutely does lol

i've used the force sword and it suffers in horde clear by having barely any wide swing attacks

[stoic heath]

which kantrel pattern speaificly

[rigid wasp]

I gotta get a kantrael I guess

[lapis raven]

it's really good at anti-elite but that's about it

[coral umbra]

The XII

[dire ridge]

ye he's prolly not the best at it, but you still absolutely destroy em (except shield ogryn)

[slow fog]

FS also is one of two weapons that lets you block ranged fire and has arguably the best push in the game

[lapis raven]

don't get me wrong, cool force sword is great and i love the fact it can get a deflects-bullets trait

if you get the trait yeah it lets you block ranged fire

[stoic heath]

if you can get a chain or power sword to drop that is, unlike me

[lapis raven]

plus the thing that lets psykers use peril instead of stam?

im looking forward to getting a trait like that and having some jedi lookin ass moments

[slow fog]

Yeah dude, FS rules. I'm sure powersword also rules tbh I just don't think it overshadows the FS haha

[dire ridge]

got a pretty good one at like level 22 iirc, haven't seen anything better since x)

[slow fog]

Two swords that rule

[raven dove]

anyone else having issues with contracts not accurately counting dreg kills?

[signal cipher]

Oh yeah it probably would, but if you read the weapon descriptions you learn that the spearhead is an old outdated Astartes bolter

It's also not impossible for a normal person to use a bolter, sisters of battle fucking love bolters

[azure cove]

That's sexy

[lapis raven]

power sword does sadly @slow fog it's got massive horde clear and cleave with wide swipes and can be powered up to do loads of penetration with barely any loss of damage

[azure cove]

368 at 22? Damn

[slow fog]

The slaughter blessing is busteeeddd

[rigid wasp]

shield ogryn isn't that hard to deal with if you have a power sword and the bolter makes him flinch and easily get shots on his body, though it's alot harder with the other guns if trying to engage him at range as vet

[lapis raven]

oh that's neat lore @signal cipher . aren't SoB kinda buffed up to astartes tier strength due to their special power armour

[raven dove]

Are Melks contracts not fully active yet? none of them are tracking my progress after the first game

[coral umbra]

You also just kinda learn how to dodge his swings and hit him after 1v1-ing him enough times

[dire ridge]

the bolter absolutely fucks them up, power sword takes too long to kill tho

[coral umbra]

Cause my team has absolutely ditched me while fighting them more times than I can count

[rigid wasp]

I feel like a samurai when I dodge and heavy swing at the same time and he falls in two pieces behind me

[signal cipher]

It was simply outclassed by newer models, it's important to note that the spearhead is a BOLT GUN not a Bolter

[lapis raven]

shield ogryns are pretty easy to fight yeah; it's even easier as an ogryn

ill be entirely honest what's the difference @signal cipher

[coral umbra]

Yeah, just overall rn I think vet is equipped to solo, which feels wrong to me

[signal cipher]

They are basically the same the main difference being magazine size

[coral umbra]

Right now I feel like I take longer to deal with armor but don't struggle to deal with it, or hordes, or specials and elites

[lapis raven]

what's your melee though

[coral umbra]

I swap between knife, chain sword, and power sword

[lapis raven]

id hope you mean power sword

[rigid wasp]

Maybe I have a different spearhead but mine says it's adeptus arbites issue not adeptus astartes

[coral umbra]

Yeah lmao, I struggle to keep the names right

[lapis raven]

unless someone's glitched force sword onto vet in which case gimme

knife is pretty fun ngl; chain is good vs armour definitely but again is one of those weapons that usually needs space to use the anti armour hit

and iirc unlike the force sword doesn't have a big range powerful push to clear that space

[coral umbra]

The knife is currently the most broken of them all

[signal cipher]

Fear the old in a profession where men die young

[lapis raven]

knife is just fun tbh; dodging at the speed of sound

[coral umbra]

Cause the bleed bug

[dire ridge]

has anyone figured out how the powersword special works? sometimes it lets me hit 5 times, sometimes it's just two

[real prism]

what the best setting to not getting crashes

[coral umbra]

Afaik it's time since your first hit after activating it, with misses not counting for activating

[rigid wasp]

yeah I like chain but the only times I have had melee engagements clean enough to make use of its special, I could have just backed off and let someone else take care of it, when I'm being backed into a corner knife and powersword and even axe(the armor piercing ones anyways dunno about the assassin ones they seem weird) all seem a lot more versatile

[slow fog]

Im like 2% annoyed that crafting materials have only turned up now AFTER I levelled my psyker to 30 haha

[raw moss]

Do we know if knife has any bleed on attacks, or do you need bleed from grenades etc to make it work?

[lapis raven]

it would assume it's something to do with the total cleave value or something

[sweet turret]

What weapons are good for high level Psyker play? I'm still a noob, but I'm trying to break into higher risk levels.

[lapis raven]

you can get a weapon perk called lacerate that's broken rn and the knife attacks super quick

[uncut verge]

Some people have had success by limiting frames to 120 (or lower perhaps if you don’t have a top end rig…. I only know it worked for people with top end systems)

[coral umbra]

The chain really relies on a pattern of shove, dodge, heavy sweep ime

[sour flower]

just completed "on overwatch" again and didnt get the penance ahaha...

[uncut verge]

If that doesn’t work you can try limiting threads

[dense moat]

are crafting resource pick-ups shared now or not?

[slow fog]

Voidstrike staff is my fav, lightning is the other community favourite, flamer staff is OK, groundpound is bad.
Force sword with ranged damage block is almost definitely the best melee option

[dire ridge]

what difficulty are u playing on

[sour flower]

malice

[rigid wasp]

Am I not supposed to use the special attack with it though, cause that's what it feels like

[lapis raven]

i havent had a force sword appear in ages tbh, waiting for the ranged block perk

[coral umbra]

No, you aren't really. That's for armor

[bold saffron]

Good autogun or Scrap pile it?

[exotic glacier]

Crafting resources are shared, no fighting over them like in the previous beta

[coral umbra]

It takes too long to get stuck on an enemy and be tearing it up when you're in a horde

[lapis raven]

braced autoguns are based autoguns

[dense moat]

ok ty

[uncut verge]

You mean on chain sword? Use it to shred heavier targets

[raw moss]

knoif

[slow fog]

Imo force sword should just have range block as part of its kit, shouldn't need to use a blessing slot

[coral umbra]

But chained heavies on the chain sword are big head level sweeps back and forth

[sweet turret]

Hmm. I have the Voidstrike currently. I wanted to try the flamer since it would build my warp charges more reliably, but I don't know if that's worth it.

[bold saffron]

Chain weapons ingeneral Murder heavy single units

[spice whale]

which one is better? the stat bars and power rating keeps confusing me since ir seems like 196 is better then 202

[bold saffron]

Power Swords do better

[exotic glacier]

Reload speed, bolter is slow

[signal cipher]

Yeahhhhhh

[rigid wasp]

I get what you're saying, I'm saying that there's never a clean enough situation where you'd want to engage armor like that, usually I encounter armor within hordes, if I'm using power sword I can just cleave through regardless, if I'm using knife I can quick punch and heavy attack and keep dodging around, if I'm using an axe I'm just hacking and dodging regardless and it'll do damage regardless

[lapis raven]

honestly when i first saw the big field it gives you i thought it blocked ranged

[cerulean crown]

So there's a bug that seems to be wiping out all of my crafting materials but I cannot seem to place what's triggering it, just a heads up for other people.

[rigid wasp]

the special seems useful for like, a 1v1 situation that doesn't exist

[coral umbra]

Yeah, agreed, the chainsword's biggest cost is time

[cerulean crown]

Yeah, it feels like it should.

[signal cipher]

Depends on what you prefer, I'd say get the one you think you'll like more if not both

[coral umbra]

But since it does well against hordes as well, I don't think it's inherently flawed to have that weapon and in case you do get body blocked or screwed by armor to bust out that special

Obviously power sword will bring more general utility but that doesn't make chainsword bad

[sweet turret]

I might try to get a combat knife until I manage to find a force sword with deflection. I played with it a bit once, and it felt pretty good. I keep getting mobbed pretty hard, though, so I dunno. Most deaths are either because I get separated and swarmed with no space to maneuver, or I get caught out by a pox burster.

[uncut verge]

I’ve special attacked chain sword into armor mid horde

[lapis raven]

power sword is just better rn but i refuse to use it

[coral umbra]

Lmao we know

[bold saffron]

I never got along with Autoguns lol I was a Lucious main till Bolter and plasma

[lapis raven]

if they nerf it ill probly pick it up again because it's fun

[cerulean crown]

Heck yeah

[lapis raven]

energised sweep is neat

[rigid wasp]

I have as well and it's very, very iffy, would rather just keep heavy swinging

[lapis raven]

@bold saffron autoguns are great, honestly, they're really adaptable and quick to ready

[uncut verge]

Depends if you have allies at your side

[lapis raven]

they have armour pierce and can cut through flak and stagger really well

[coral umbra]

In general, I think it's only there for when you don't have a psyker and you clear a horde and still have armor left to clean up

[cobalt knoll]

Damn, that's nice
Also should I go for HP% bonuses over toughness %+ for curios as an Ogryn?

[lapis raven]

braced ones specifically just have loads of ammo too

[rigid wasp]

It doesn't have to be good at anti-armor I just think it's special attack is comparatively not very good, though I guess some of the special attacks are kinda questionable in general, like I still don't really get what the jab or the underswing on the hatchets are for

[coral umbra]

Because ogryn can CC armor but it takes forever to kill it

[lapis raven]

they're for stunning or knockback @rigid wasp

[next pilot]

Hello, I got some issue with the weekly contract, I need to finish 6 secondary objectives within the mission relay station TRS-150, but I can't find it anywhere??

[coral umbra]

Yeah this

[sour flower]

are these melk's weapons??? how are people this lucky???

[coral umbra]

The knife punch is a bully move lmao

[lapis raven]

knife punch has a special left click follow up attack

[rigid wasp]

the knife punch is amazing and I love it

[lapis raven]

ogryn uppercut or slap is fun too ngl

it actually stuns even the bigger ogryn guys

[coral umbra]

I love the ogryn punch a lot

[cerulean crown]

Buddy this is the first force sword I've gotten in the last 20 hours of play, my last one was from a random emprah's gift. I don't know if I'd call it luck when it just took this much time

[coral umbra]

It's the highlight of the class for me

[lapis raven]

i had a triple ogryn run with randoms once; we just slapped a guy to death in a corner

[limpid walrus]

Tbh i feel like the power sword is the best melee weapon for basically everything except boss damage, which is thunder hammer.
It's not like the Chainsword where the armor penetration is punished by single target damage over time or the force sword which costs peril to activate and takes time to do it's thing, it's just pop it and swing into everything. Which is funny when you consider it's exclusive to the "ranged" class.

[rigid wasp]

I don't know if it's actually easier to use a knife punch into heavy than just charging a knife heavy but it sure feels like it is, cause it seems like the punch may stutter an enemy into not hitting you where you'd need to dodge with a normal charging

[sour flower]

havent even seen one in the armory, melk or as a drop

[pale musk]

guys so whats like the highest weapon score youve seen at lvl 30?

[dense moat]

475ish

[sour flower]

this is the first bolter ive gotten

so yes i would call it luck

[coral umbra]

So I'm a brainlet... are there 7 mission types in the game since launch yet?

I can't remember

[pale musk]

from the weekyl shop i assume?

[lapis raven]

there are yeah, we're missing disruption rn

[wintry harness]

are grimoir malice upwards only or do I just have bad luck with the rotation?

[lapis raven]

the map they were testing it on had some issues so it's been removed for a while now

[cerulean crown]

Haz 2 upwards

[coral umbra]

Yeah the desert

[wintry harness]

ah, so just bad luck but thank you @cerulean crown

[pale musk]

thats why i cant get my helmet, just gimme disruption

[uncut verge]

We’re all have the same missions at the same time

[coral umbra]

See, here's the problem I'm having

I played that one before it was removed

[wintry harness]

oh, didn't know

[coral umbra]

and still am at 6/7

[uncut verge]

How else would MM work? lol

[lapis raven]

you done repair? @coral umbra

[signal cipher]

Oh dear Lord I hope that we aren't still stuck with endless horde

[pale musk]

now that sucks

[wintry harness]

that you don't show everyone the same pool of map conditions

[uncut verge]

Freaking every secondary mission has come with endless horde for some reason

[cursive grove]

I got the second vet helmet working on the third but it’s suffering

[spiral vault]

anyone here done the make every shot count penance for Sharpshooter? if so any tips? lmfao

[coral umbra]

I believe I did yesterday, but I'm gonna run it again just in case lmao

[lapis raven]

revolver and unload it into the ending horde on most missions @spiral vault

[pale musk]

na i need that too

[lapis raven]

tell your team what you're doing at start and it'll usually be fine

[signal cipher]

Endless horde is fun but fucking hell man my fingers hurt

[dire ridge]

use low ammo guns (revolver, plasma and shotgun, shotgun best imo since it's the easiest to hit), play missions with extraction endings so your passive doesn't ruin your run, don't pick up ammo and mostly shoot chonky targets so they don't accidentally die/move, otherwise cosplay a zealot and fight melee, don't bother with regular veteran stuff like killing shooters

[signal cipher]

Don't miss

[minor mountain]

I love doing endless hordes as Ogryn

[rigid wasp]

does it count as 100% accuracy with the shotgun even if not every pellet makes it to the target?

cause I would be worried about the scatter

[uncut verge]

Maaaybe but they should all be the same.

If there’s enough players to have more options, give us more shared options

[rare shadow]

god why does this gun feel so crap and slow and unaccrate

[lapis raven]

it's a boltgun held by a human; they're not the most wieldy things

[dire ridge]

yup

[rigid wasp]

yeah the way people were talking it up I expected more, it does make people explode though which is nice

[dire ridge]

i wonder how accuracy works with hitting shields/allies tho

[rare shadow]

do they get stronger and better late or does the same theme feel throughout? unaccurate and slow?

[signal cipher]

It's only meant for people roughly twice your size

[rare shadow]

so are they not viable weapons?

[spiral vault]

good question

[rare shadow]

if they arnt used by normal humans

who uses them then

[signal cipher]

For normal people nope

[minor mountain]

I’ve seen people kick ass with them

[rare shadow]

a diff class or what

[signal cipher]

Space Marines

[dire ridge]

it's great vs multiple chonkers at low range

[rare shadow]

so theyre not good on vetrans?

[signal cipher]

Do you not... Read...

[cursive grove]

They’re good on vet

[rare shadow]

im a vet not space marine

[cursive grove]

Just have to get used to it

Good to fire into a hoard filled with ragers and ogryns

[rigid wasp]

It says in its description it was meant for arbites, which are normal humans, albeit well trained ones

[cursive grove]

Also easy to dump a mutant

[rare shadow]

what gun is good all around vs all types of enemies with good pen accuracy and damage for vet

[dire ridge]

i think bolter is bugged, ADS aim is a bit off

[dire ridge]

kantrael mk xii is the best gun, doesn't have penetration tho

[signal cipher]

🤔ᴴᴹᴹ I'd say any braced autogun

[rare shadow]

so that means my damage is useless vs armored people?

[rigid wasp]

people here were saying the kantrael mk xii is the best, I really like the mk viii braced autogun though and the revolver has good armor pen, damage, and accuracy if you can deal with the low ammo capacity

[rare shadow]

ima just

stick with bolt gun honestly it has power and pen but just has poor aim

lol

[twin oasis]

does +% xp stack on multiple curios?

[uncut verge]

First shot is accurate

[dire ridge]

the only real armored dude is the ogryn crusher with a hammer and most guns are useless against him

[rare shadow]

is e ogryn crusher the one with the big hammer?

[signal cipher]

Maulers

[rare shadow]

and shields

kantrael mk xii

can I use that low level?

[uncut verge]

Yes

[dire ridge]

yup its one of the first guns

[dire ridge]

maulers only have head armor

flak armor is fake

[bold saffron]

Eh Still not sold on Autoguns

That purp i has is alright but eh

[uncut verge]

I just switched off the Mk XII to braced auto Gun which is fun but no good at long range

[bold saffron]

I prefer Recon Plasma and Bolter over autoguns

[uncut verge]

I’m at 15 so it’s good for malice. That and chain sword is fun

[signal cipher]

People amaze me. I see questions that would be answered in moments if the person bothered to read lol

[rigid wasp]

The ads autoguns seem kinda not good but I haven't tried all of them, is there any that people would recommend?

[tight cliff]

I'm not gonna lie fellas, I just started early access , and it feels way harder than closed beta?

[uncut verge]

Did you try since the 1.07 patch?

[tight cliff]

I'm trying to keep playing zealot

[twin oasis]

anyone have any info on this?

[tight cliff]

and it feels like a struggle even trying to kill pox walkers

[uncut verge]

I’m going to try the burst fire one at some point

[opal rover]

hi hi people, what the heck is a secondary action for a gun

[dire ridge]

ADS, zoom in with right click

[rigid wasp]

Are plasteel pickups shared?

[ocean egret]

Should I hoard my weapons for a scrapping (I swear it was a thing in the CBT) or just discard them for coins?

[tight cliff]

Theres alot of different things

[opal rover]

got it, thanks 👍

[topaz dawn]

and it is done 🙂

[uncut verge]

I’m going to wait until the full crafting system is released just in case

But it looks like we might only be able to sell them

[ocean egret]

Same

[rigid wasp]

yes, compared to the braced, they always disappoint me, they don't seem to have the same ammo capacity or power while hipfiring and they're too unstable while ads to be noticeably more accurate than a braced, in my experience

[unborn jasper]

where can I discard stuff?

i just saw someone talking about that

[opal rover]

in your inventory, select item

there's discard prompt on the bottom

[uncut verge]

Yeah I think I’m going to keep to braced, but I’ll try one eventually lol

Not while my braced holds up though. Unless I get a free one

Mk XII is great for ranged but sucks in close, a chain or power sword alleviates that weakness

[unborn jasper]

thanks steven

[rigid wasp]

I mean I wouldn't even say all the braced are good either, it's just the Agripinaa Mk VIII that I swear by

[uncut verge]

Braced is just fun though

[signal cipher]

Yeah you get the most out of them firing in bursts as full auto gets out of hand very fast

[rigid wasp]

that's what I do! it's still very bouncy, recoil heavy while still feeling as if it lacks power? I'll give them another shot tho

[cobalt knoll]

As an Ogyrn which curios should I focus on?
I read that HP focused curios are the best?

[signal cipher]

You can do some chunky dammy but overall they do kinda blow

[signal cipher]

Well think about it for a second luv. You have the highest hp pool out of any class and curios are ℅based

[cerulean crown]

So two of these stats are great but unfortunately it rolled experience on the third...

[cobalt knoll]

heh

[slim zinc]

go for +wounds and corruption res, helps with Grims and you can be downed more times before captured

otherwise coin and xp buffs

[graceful atlas]

HP, stamina efficiency are good.

[signal cipher]

Depends on what you prefer at the end of the day

[rocky oyster]

i think my task are bugged and wont count the objective anymore

[signal cipher]

Like I like the kickback, I've been bullied for using it lmao

[cobalt knoll]

nods nods

[slim zinc]

jeez who would bully anyone for beta gameplay....

[graceful atlas]

The kickback is fine.

[uncut verge]

These are really only needed for grim missions. Stacking HP and stamina is better otherwise

[unborn jasper]

that thing is sick

[slim zinc]

depends on a team and difficulty

[unborn jasper]

Should I go run heresy at lvl 23

i feel confident but mess up sometimes still

[slim zinc]

remember on higher diffs you have - wounds by default

[signal cipher]

Wait for 25 tbh

[unborn jasper]

alright

[uncut verge]

Will probably be able to do that trait with full crafting release

[burnt pendant]

So I see two weapon choices, one with "+13% power on kill for 2 seconds", one with "+10% power on hit". Both max 5 stacks, but the former has 2 pins (so a higher level trait). But, honestly, isn't 10% power on hit far better than 13% power on kill? It doesn't say any duration, though.

[dire ridge]

better vs elites, worse vs hordes

[uncut verge]

True… getting one +wound at least is good unless you almost never go down on the harder diff

[signal cipher]

Simply don't die

[icy harness]

I cannot find any scriptures ingame since 1.0.8, am I the only one ?

[uncut verge]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-point-gif-23257114

[burnt pendant]

How long does the "on hit" even last? I mean, the 2 seconds on kill pretty much only ever stacks against a horde, and the force sword isn't really my prime choice for that.
The power on hit is on an axe, though, so that fits.
Or will that bonus last until a miss?

[cobalt knoll]

Hrm alright. I'll stack on HP+Stamina ones

[coral umbra]

Okay I found it in the menu, I have done espionage but not disruption

[dire ridge]

btw how many helmets are from penances? is it two?

[signal cipher]

I can't explain how badly I want this

[soft wing]

For the evis enjoyers out there, what feats do you run?

[signal cipher]

Dark tide lacks a real support class

[coral umbra]

I think ogryn is the most supportive class atm

[graceful atlas]

Ogryn kinda fills that, of an odd variety.

[rigid wasp]

I saw someone post a t3 helmet penance

[coral umbra]

With their buff traits and buffed revives

[signal cipher]

As a tank yeah

[rigid wasp]

It was a guardsman helmet with one of the cadian style gas masks some of the guys on the ship have

[graceful atlas]

Uninterrupted revives, larger coherency with a talent, can carry objectives quicker.

[coral umbra]

I wish people would let ogryn carry things

[dire ridge]

poggers, wonder if u have to do damnation or heresy for it

[coral umbra]

They are SO much faster

[signal cipher]

But like, a tech priest throwing out buffs and maybe even small heals would be rad

Or it's at least what I want lol

[graceful atlas]

I'd bet veteran will get an officer class with Kruber or Saltz's buff shouts.

[signal cipher]

But, tech priest 😭

[coral umbra]

I doubt tech priest would be what showed up. More likely one of their skitarii

[burnt pendant]

Is the "power on hit" from Decimator on a single target? As in, I hit it twice, then if it dies, no bonus on the next?

[signal cipher]

Yeah if we get any admech class it's most likely gonna be a skitarii, but damn do I wanna be a support tech priest

[cursive grove]

It’s heresy

[rain dew]

has anyone tried using ogryn on heresy/damnation without the slab shield

[coral umbra]

I just want any funny xeno race personally

[graceful atlas]

Craklax on twitch mostly runs knife ogryn on damnation.

[dire ridge]

guess ill just wait for disruption and get all 3 at once then..

[signal cipher]

Heresy

[graceful atlas]

Though he's like top .1% of player skill.

[coral umbra]

Oh and some catachan cosmetics or a catachan class

[coral umbra]

Oh yeah lmao, I've never played SM in my life and only play IG because they have the funniest artillery

[cursive grove]

You have to do all of the penances for the third one (including 100 veteran matches)

[barren hull]

where do I craft weapons now?

[dire ridge]

i got the penances, not the 100 matches tho, that kinda sucks

[graceful atlas]

Can't craft them raw just yet, only upgrade.

[signal cipher]

RAW

[uncut verge]

IDK that we’ll ever get raw crafting, but we’ll see what all the options are

[coral umbra]

Wow the cosmetics are uh... expensive for a pallet swap

[uncut verge]

Cash will become a huge resource eventually

[signal cipher]

Kind of the point

[coral umbra]

Yeah, but 55k for a green undershirt lmao

[bold saffron]

Can I ask Should I swap this current Sword for the Newer one or keep the old one

[graceful atlas]

I plan on using my Imperial Edition bandana and just the basic, simple pants and tops from penances

[uncut verge]

When you have 200k you won’t care

[signal cipher]

There is in game banter about it lmao it's meant to be that way

[coral umbra]

I doubt I ever will, I don't grind, I have better things to do with my time

[uncut verge]

Well it’s a cash sink since there isn’t much else to do with it eventually

[coral umbra]

I've put 45 hours in playing with friends and happened to get to level 30 but like...

Idk I can't imagine playing this game solo just to play it

And especially not for a green shirt

[torpid grotto]

You're kind of forced to play with friends with some of the challenges and penances available. Getting randoms to listen is a coin flip.

[uncut verge]

Depends if you go into full end game of crafting resources to perfect weapons or not .

Anyone who does will collect a lot of cash with little other use than maybe buying a new base weapon to upgrade

[graceful atlas]

Say,is there an option to remap slide but not crouch?

[coral umbra]

I think by level 30 you're already past cash tbh, at that point most good weapons are in the weekly quest shop

[uncut verge]

I have crouch and slide on Ctrl (which is a third mouse thumb button for me)

[tight cliff]

Question lads, did they fix the zealot bugs yet? Do the feats work now?

[coral umbra]

I just don't get the pallet swaps being so expensive

They're the lowest importance of cosmetic

[uncut verge]

If you see a great stat roll on a weapon type you want, you can upgrade it to get exactly what you want

[coral umbra]

Yeah, that's just uncommon in my experience

Maybe others have better shop luck though. I never saw a bolter in there the entire time, I got it from the weekly

[graceful atlas]

Away from my home so i can't check, but can I at least set multiple buttons for one action? Like have both ctrl and mouse 4 work for slides and crouches.

[uncut verge]

Highest rating whites and blues will be good bases for upgrading

[coral umbra]

And only ever saw one power sword across 40 hours

[uncut verge]

Yes, that’s what mine does

[graceful atlas]

Nice.

[uncut verge]

You slide and crouch with the same button and never accidentally hop

[sullen portal]

'm guessing deadshot stops applying if your ads with no stam but your stam still doesnt regen? Anyone know?

[uncut verge]

Also makes your dodges duck too

[pale musk]

ah yes 9 out of my 10 missions are endless horde

ty fatshark

[uncut verge]

Way too much endless horde RN for some reason

Been that way all morning

Haven’t seen any other modifiers either

Think something is bugged with mission assignment

[shrewd laurel]

I also had a diff 3 mission with endless hordes where the special spawn was just off the charts

We made it tho

[coral umbra]

I would love to see better randomization in missions, because it feels like often it's the same mission 4 times at different difficulty levels

[pale musk]

bro same today

like 5 bursters running at us from different sides

i felt like i was in hell

[shrewd laurel]

Yeah and the horde was over but there was literally a special coming every 30 seconds

[uncut verge]

Same, did a malice 3 run and had 2 boss spawns with full hordes and specials, and just never ending maulers, bombers, etc.

We failed

[coral umbra]

So I realized, despite playing the map before it was removed one day one, I did espionage rather than disruption on it so I can't get my dumb brain bucket

[shrewd laurel]

We luckily didn't have boss

[pale musk]

oh yea i had 2 bosses spawn last mission, didnt even know that was possible

[shrewd laurel]

But now I have tinnitus from the bomber grenades

[uncut verge]

It’ll be back, you don’t need everything done before release

[wintry silo]

Is the shotgun good for the 100% accuracy penance or do missed pellets hurt it?

[coral umbra]

Ha, uh yeah bad new there lmao

[heavy shuttle]

I thought I was the only dude repping the XII lasgun... Heh small world

[coral umbra]

I have most things already done for vet

[uncut verge]

Shotgun is what I’ve seen suggested the most. Revolver also solid.

[wintry silo]

I've been trying revolver but keep missing one

[uncut verge]

XII is solid

[pale musk]

wait we dont, but how we gonna feel validated???

[wheat elm]

Is there a way to see what Missions I have completed? I am currently 6/7 and can't find the last Mission i need to complete for the penance

[pale musk]

its probably disruption

the one who has an X as a sign

[wheat elm]

thanks!

[uncut verge]

Ouch lol. I haven’t done it (only 15) but I’ve seen most suggest shotgun with none refuting it

[pale musk]

You won't find it now tho it's been removed for now cause problems

[covert thistle]

I’ve been running into a bug where my cursor moves along the screen while I play and since I have dual monitors, it interferes with my gameplay, anyone encounter this?

[heavy shuttle]

XII and Power sword is what Im using, with the anti-suppressant trait

[spice vector]

does bleed work for the sharpshooters Long Bomb challenge or does it have to be just the initial damage?

[wheat elm]

oh dang. thanks though!

[pale musk]

Initial for me

I used it on the logistratum mission at the end when u go to the ship

Just throw a grenade at the coming horde

[coral umbra]

I used the long hallway on the assassination mission

At the train station

[pale musk]

Ah nice spot too

[tepid minnow]

damn, just tried my first heretic difficulty mission, feels a whole lot different from malice

[uncut verge]

I keep missing or not getting a kill

[slow fog]

We almost need a pin in here for people trying to get long bomb

[pale musk]

I'm happy I got that shit quick

[slow fog]

The tips for getting long bomb are:
Use the non-aimed quick throw, it has a shorter fuse which makes it far simpler to use
Go practice in the psykhanium, once you get an idea of the range and angle, it is surprisingly easy

[pale musk]

What I'm more worried about is on overwatch

No melee dmg on heresy

[uncut verge]

Does it have a difficulty minimum? Malice? Heresy?

[pale musk]

Na u can do it on lvl 1

[somber folio]

has anyone been able to upgrade weapons? I just get an error

[uncut verge]

Yeah that’s gonna be a tough one.

There’s a stealth perk or trait that supposedly helps a lot

[sullen portal]

Camo is OP af

[pale musk]

The lvl 20 one when when u stand still

[slow fog]

pin pls lmao

[pale musk]

But still that shits is basically so hard

[uncut verge]

Ah yes, not 20 yet (and not playing heresy either lol)

[pale musk]

Yea I'm not playing heresy either at lvl 26 rn

[uncut verge]

You can do it on uprising??

[spice vector]

yeah I've just had some rough luck getting it because either my friends mow down the group I am aiming to kill with the throw, or the grenade dinks one in the head and it goes off 3 seconds later on the ground

[tepid minnow]

i got flattened in heresy at lvl 30

[unborn jasper]

I will switch at level 25 since I get a BIG power up

[pale musk]

Yep

[unborn jasper]

but your team has to work together

[rigid wasp]

How does deadshot work? I tested it out in the meat grinder and it doesn't change my DPS at all

[uncut verge]

Oh well shit

[unborn jasper]

it'd be best to use voice chat and call target prio for each individual person in the beginning

[formal atlas]

What does this perk do exactly?

[uncut verge]

I hear so few on VoIP

[unborn jasper]

I always talk

[uncut verge]

Really should default to PTT, not off

[pale musk]

I try to say hello

[unborn jasper]

i got told to stfu by some groups tho

[rigid wasp]

I didnt even know there was voice chat in game

[unborn jasper]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[uncut verge]

Also Alt is a better default than V IMO

[unborn jasper]

2. mouse button

😉

[pale musk]

Haven't got someone to talk yet tho

But they listen to calls atleast

[warped osprey]

You'll fire the secondary faster if you chain it

[uncut verge]

For people with spare, sure… I have extra buttons but they’re all mapped to actions. I set to Alt though

[uncut verge]

“Grug, get back here… healing.”

[void lotus]

Did they nerf the xp curios?

[formal atlas]

I'm stupid, I get it now. Thanks

[pale musk]

More like : guys I need defence while slicing
...

[uncut verge]

Been getting lucky in the teammate department there

[fast mesa]

How hard is abhor the mutant penance?

[tepid garnet]

Fellow psyker mains, When you use your ult does having more peril pushes more enemies and enemies further.

[uncut verge]

“Let the ogre carry the damn cell” is another common call out though

[pale musk]

Lmao

Idk what elite I hate more: dog, bomber or pox burster

[uncut verge]

Bursters sometimes

When there’s no good sight lines for their approach

[pale musk]

Bursters when they just open a door behind u

[uncut verge]

Bombers ARE obnoxious

[pale musk]

"Bonjour"

[queen garnet]

looking for group to help me Get Psyker helmet

[uncut verge]

Dogs aren’t a big deal usually

[pale musk]

Dogs are just annoying

And fast

[uncut verge]

Mutants and dogs I’ve gottena lot better at O’LAYing

[cerulean crown]

I'm perfectly fine at yeeting dogs so they're not as much of a threat to me anymore

[uncut verge]

Saw that

[pale musk]

No one saw that

That was bait by her

[cerulean crown]

There was no message in ba sing se

[pale musk]

There are no bursters in ba sing se

[azure cove]

Worth buying or should I do the common sense thing and hold these for level 30?

[uncut verge]

Common sense thing

[pale musk]

I wait for lvl 30

[azure cove]

I figured.

[vague shore]

do you need level 25 feat warp battery to do the Warp battery penance?

[pale musk]

The temptation is great tho

[uncut verge]

It’s only 299 stat points

[slow fog]

No, you have to do it on difficulty 4+ not 3+ though

[azure cove]

It is because it's basically just a much better version of the thing I've been using for like 4 entire levels

[uncut verge]

That currency is vital though

[pale musk]

Giving me table top vibes herw

Yea at lvl 30 we can buy legends

[azure cove]

Yeah I totally get that.

[slow fog]

gimme dat 2+ inv save pls

[pale musk]

As a custodes player

I agree

[uncut verge]

But then all the elites would get good saves too

[slow fog]

Nah, just me

[pale musk]

The infantryman with 2+ invul

Nt

[hard prairie]

i think

[rigid wasp]

I wish the bolter did not need constant racking reee

[hard prairie]

i think the scripture tracker for the weeklys is broken sir

i got 3 and it dint count them

[half lily]

Anyone having problems finding players in missions ? I just can't find 1 full game its just full of bots

[burnt pendant]

3/4 times, the mission I get is the one with the smelter. Players are in them, though

[azure cove]

Randoms getting more reliable on t3. Love to see it.

[azure cove]

is your steam set on some like off-country?

[half lily]

Yeah! please don't tell me...

[azure cove]

I'm not a techy or anything but that might affect your pool of players

Cos I only deal with a single bot for all of 20 seconds before someone fills the last bit

[keen thorn]

What are y’all’s opinion on the plasma gun for veteran?

[azure cove]

I've yet to find a passable one on the vendor. It's gonna be hard for me to get rid of my Agrip tho

No idea how they handle. I just bought and tested a blue bolter in the meat grinder and it was awful compared to my Agrip

Like 0 accuracy

[snow ivy]

i need help getting the over watch penance done

[tired crown]

I'm not a big fan, it doesn't offer anything that the bolter can't do and it's a lot less convenient. But I haven't played with it much, so I could be doing it wrong.

[half lily]

Oh wow yeah but its was fine before the update i was able to join people, well I think ill just wait for the next update.

[keen thorn]

I think I would like the plasma gun more if it pierced like the voidstrike staff from psyker

[tired crown]

Yeah, me too. The void strike is downright addicting.

[wooden sigil]

right so mission types are strike, assassination, repair, etc. right?
keep hearing people say that it means the level (smelter, train station etc)

[azure cove]

Yeah I'm locked at 5/7 myself

And I've played my Vet plenty

[tired crown]

Yeah each level has specific missions attached, but there are some mission types that are duplicates like the assassination mission. Two levels but the same overall goal.

[keen thorn]

No, it’s the first part. Repair was just brought in but another went away in its place.

[azure cove]

considering I don't see helmets around yet

I don't think they're "out"

[wooden sigil]

right that's what i thought it was, i think i need espionage and the disruption mission again

[tired crown]

I've got one, they are.

[azure cove]

...Oh

[keen thorn]

I saw a helmet yesterday.

[azure cove]

then what the hell.

[tired crown]

There was one mission only available on the first day, unfortunately

[keen thorn]

Saw a psyker hood earlier

[tired crown]

But you can buy them now!

[thick kernel]

Warp Absorption
Wrack and Ruin
Psychic Communium
Mind in motion
Kinetic Flair
Ascendants Blaze

Opinions on my Psyker build?

[tired crown]

Go to the weapons vendor, they have an option for character cosmetics and weapon cosmetics.

[half lily]

Buy helmets ?

[tired crown]

Yes, for the dockets we get on missions.

[thin nebula]

Yeah, armoury has cosmetics now too. Heads up, they're pricey

[azure cove]

They're not on mine.

[wooden sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353794957170966529/1045459876958195722/image.png?width=1202&height=676

[tired crown]

It's randomized hourly

[sterile gate]

If I'm wanting to play a melee-centric character, am I better going off Preacher or Ogryn for higher difficulties? Ogryn seems fun, but also seems like it practically begs to take friendly fire >.>

[azure cove]

Ogryn is not necessarily melee-only

[coral umbra]

Oh I thought the cosmetics were just based off what you unlocked already

[azure cove]

Might be, no helmets in my shop

[coral umbra]

Same, but color swaps of all the penance cosmetics I've already unlocked

[thin nebula]

my operative cosmetic shop has 28 items. I feel like that might be every single one of em.

[sweet summit]

I've got helmets in my shop and I haven't unlocked it by penance yet.

[silver nest]

About what level should I be before I try to take on Malice level missions?

15?

[hidden dune]

what is a maniac? a weapon i got has 20% dmg against maniacs

[keen sonnet]

I assumed it was ragers and the like

[storm laurel]

ragers probably

[thin nebula]

Ragers

[storm laurel]

might also mean the melee scabs/dregs

[rigid wasp]

Guarsdman with a power sword :^)

[keen thorn]

Power sword is quite fun

[wooden sigil]

luv me power sword
luv me recon las

[silver nest]

I'm having fun with Chainsword

[rigid wasp]

How is the eviscerator

[coral umbra]

Fingers crossed they just nerf its shove and mobility when they do get around to it, nerfing the power sword

[hidden dune]

they need to add like a bestiary or thing you can look up status effects and debuffs and enemy types

[silver nest]

They added the Psychanium or whatever it is

You can go there and when you shoot the targets it tells you what type of material your hitting

[keen thorn]

It’s divine

[hidden dune]

ye but i just want to look up what falls under maniac

[coral umbra]

Cause rn my big problem with power sword is it's offensively insane and still has such solid dodges and shoves

[bold saffron]

Never seen this one before

[fiery rampart]

where is the "shrine of the emperor" the darktide comms mentioned? i cant find it in the hub

[bold saffron]

Super charge

[keen thorn]

Right side past the psykarium

There a tech priest working on something there

[fiery rampart]

its not giving me a pop-up...

also i think that techpriest might be Hadron

[odd light]

So how to fix voice chat mine doesn't work

[silver nest]

Why should the Veteran ever equip the Revovler?

[pulsar tundra]

newbie question - is there any sort of tooltips or dictionary for all the random icons on gear and currency\crafting items?

like I'm just guessing at most of this stuff

[silver nest]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z3db8g/i_made_a_sloppy_icon_and_stat_sheet_for_myself/

[pulsar tundra]

that sheet is just copied from here https://www.pcgamer.com/darktide-weapon-symbols-stats-icons/

[silver nest]

As for currency, there's really only 3, Ordo coins, which you use to purchase most everything, and Plasteel and Diamonite, which are common / rare mats for crafting, which hasn't been fully implemented yet

[pulsar tundra]

I'm more curious about if there are ingame tooltips so I dn't have to constantly reference external resources anytime I want to compare weapons

[final willow]

$

[junior portal]

You can easily do it by 6.

[pulsar tundra]

I've bought a number of weapons that were distinctly worse than what I already had because I thought they were better lol

[oak maple]

Nope

[scarlet skiff]

yeah i think helmets are more just because the ones you unlock through challenges are also harder to obtain

[pulsar tundra]

becaue its hard to someimes compare

[oak maple]

There is no in game tooltips or explainations

[silver nest]

You underestimate how bad I am at the game

[junior portal]

But technically you can do Malice by as low as 3, you'll just have to play safe and ensure that you're not actively hindering your team.

[pulsar tundra]

me and you both homie

Side not - do weapon patterns have consistent qualities. I've rocked to Graia autoguns at the past and they make me happy

[wintry quartz]

Is the zealot lasgun good ?

[elder rapids]

Can i get the "don't stop me now" achievement for the Ogryn solo?

[storm laurel]

same as the other lasguns, so yeah

[rigid wasp]

question, im deciding between classes and id rather not pick something that everyone else has -- buttt at the same time i really wanna be a guardsman lol and i enjoy ranged combat. are most characters Veterans?

[wintry quartz]

It's pretty balanced

[oak maple]

Channel Freddie Mercury

[storm laurel]

I mostly see zealots

[minor flower]

Good melee weapon for vet?

[rigid wasp]

okay, tight, so i'm cool going Vet?

psyker is my second choice

[odd light]

anyone know how to fix voice chat mine is not working

[nova cipher]

it's default set to off in the settings

[sterile gate]

So its basically (loosely)
Psyker - Ranged AOE
Veteran - Ranged Single Target
Ogryn - Melee AOE
Zealot - Melee Single Target
?

[wintry quartz]

Yea

[rigid wasp]

psyker doesnt exactly feel AOE

[burnt pendant]

So what does one do, as a Psyker, when the game suddenly spawns 30+ ranged enemies in a crowded hallway with cover? Assuming I've foolishly brought a staff.
I do lack a suppressive option.

[rigid wasp]

but i might be tirpping

[heavy shuttle]

Kantrael MG XII - Infernus perk any good?

[odd light]

Yeah but I changed mine push to talk and it's not working even tried the voice activated thing

[wintry quartz]

Psyker is a ranged sniper sort of

It can delete most monsters and even elites

[heavy shuttle]

Scream for your veteran

[jagged lava]

just got the game diving in today lol

[sterile gate]

Gotta get the staffs. Starts feeling single target, but the time it takes to brain burst a good veteran is gonna already have shot whatever you're bursting in the head.

[minor flower]

Psyker is anti-doge unit

[nova cipher]

If you have it on ptt, check your keybinding for what your ptt is maybe?

[wintry quartz]

It's fun @jagged lava

[rigid wasp]

heard

so what's the point of Brain Burst?

definitely feels outclassed by a lasgun

[odd light]

already did as I said doesn't work

[wintry quartz]

Psyker should be the person killing dogs and snipers and anything charging your team that is big and hard to kill

[pulsar tundra]

and hope they know how to do the job

[wintry quartz]

That's their main priority

[burnt pendant]

Ok, so basically, there's no good option in that case. Oh well. Maybe I should go back to bringing a gun.

[wintry quartz]

But they weave other combat outside of doing that

[nova cipher]

apologies, just covering basics ... never know

[odd light]

nah its cool I understand

[heavy shuttle]

Very true. Vets leave the hordes for the ogryn/zealot and look for those range bastards

Firing into the mob is fun but...

[jagged lava]

now wich class do i want to play? whats everyone playing?

[sterile gate]

I get annoyed when people use guns on fodder, lol. Such a waste of ammo

Just pull out your melee and wail my guy

[wintry quartz]

Team composition matters because each class can fill different kinds of roles with different loadouts

[heavy shuttle]

Especially low ammo count weapons. There are better options like Power Sword for horde clear.

[pulsar tundra]

the biggest problem with this is I've found 1) Most Ogryns suck a their jobs 2) Most zealots suck too.
I'm constantly fighting to get ahead of the party to keep ammo from getting gobbled up.

[rigid wasp]

Regarding the challenge for veteran for 100% accuracy does it work with the Plasma gun? Problem I’m having is I always have to much ranged ammo as I focus ranged and specials only with my ranged option.

[burnt pendant]

BB is definitely useful at killing enemy snipers, but ... meh. Feels like a chore instead of a perk.
Hoping for a future psyker subclass that replaces BB with... anything else. And extra durability perks so I can wield that force sword.

[odd light]

so anyone know how to get it to work?

[heavy shuttle]

Yeah... I feel your pain as a vet main. I haven't run into that problem much in Diff 4's. Usually the opposite the higher up in levels I go. I often times have teammates marking ammo for me. But thats because they know what I do with it i.e. focus ranged targets

When an orgyn plants himself as cover for me in an open area, I want to french kiss him

[north wolf]

Can you not dodge these chargers any more? I usually wait till they're close and hit left(or right) + space and they miss me. But last match, they just chain grabbed me every time.

[pulsar tundra]

Also - frontlines that don't mark elites then gripe about it when they get hit

[minor flower]

I ran with a group of 4 vets. Myself and one more each had an Attacan lasgun, and the other two had a bolter and a plasma gun. Pretty cheese.

[keen thorn]

With my voidstike staff a good Ogden defender is gold

[pulsar tundra]

dodge got nerfe down - you don't go as far anymore

[minor flower]

Shit was basically walls

[heavy shuttle]

Crossfire bug fix needs to happen. That will allow us to blast those gunners with refresh

[north wolf]

Well if you can't dodge a charging enemy anymore, they nerfed it too hard.

[slow fog]

Yeah psyker is probably the easiest to do new classes for. A biomamcer with iron arm etc to turn them into a melee wreckingball would be fun

[rigid wasp]

i just want tech priest

[pulsar tundra]

it'll get way easier when the supression mechanisms actually work - now I just lob nades into back lines

[heavy shuttle]

When they iron out supression for enemies, it'll be so nice... chef kiss

[pulsar tundra]

or hit the barrels - to splode

[sterile gate]

From my experience, every Ogryn thinks its their job to body block specials so they can't be shot >.>

[keen thorn]

I wonder if we could get a power gauntlet as a weapon.

[pulsar tundra]

Would be really nice if we weren't stuck with iron sites or acog depending on pattern

[sterile gate]

My guess is that we're going to see a lot of the other traditional 40k weapons open up with new subclasses.

[keen thorn]

Neat, I am pretty excited.

[sterile gate]

Probably gonna get a Heavy Bolter subclass for the Ogryn, Power Gauntlet for the Preacher, Lascannon for the Guard, and I dunno what for the Psyker?

If I had to just spitball

[heavy shuttle]

I had my frusterating time with new ogryns... but I really think that more experienced ogryn players know our struggle/learning how to provide us shots. I haven't run into that nearly as much as in the closed beta

[odd light]

How do you fix your vhoice chat?

[pulsar tundra]

BIG FACTS - or ADADADADADA spam and block literally everything from the back lines

[heavy shuttle]

I would rather have that repeater gun.... Hrm... not sure what its called from my memory. The heavy machine gun thing.

[sterile gate]

Heavy Machine Gun is essentially what a heavy bolter is, lol

[slow fog]

Twin linked heavy stubber?

[sterile gate]

Backpack fed belt and so much dakka

[heavy shuttle]

Also, map knowledge of where to nest up with camo expert really helps with ogryns and melee teammates too.

[heavy shuttle]

Do guardsmen have heavy bolters?

[slow fog]

Technically yes

[sterile gate]

Guardsmen no, but I think Ogryn could handle them

[burnt pendant]

Probably a new subclass each - which is really just new feats, grenade, active - then we could definitely have a more gun-focussed ogryn, f.Ex.

[heavy shuttle]

I know that Guardsman have flamers in the lore which still sucks that we cant use it in DT

It looks so lovely.

[sterile gate]

Class identity gotta ident @.@

[burnt pendant]

It absolutely kills my frames. But needs must

[slow fog]

They do but I believe they would be used as a weapon team

[heavy shuttle]

I'll trade the power sword to zealot, if zealot gives us guardsmen their flamers

[heavy shuttle]

Co-op weapons when?

Like Helldivers.

[pulsar tundra]

absolute blasphemy

power sword is bae

[topaz condor]

Okay so a question for Zealot knowers, the more I use the eviscerator, the more scuffed it feels to use What's the mindset behind the weapon? Like I really love it aesthetically and what it does (sort of), but I have a feeling I'm misusing it somehow

[jade venture]

Zealot with power sword would be cracked

[heavy shuttle]

I agree, it is awesome. But it sucks that for a 'ranged' class, our best horde clear is a melee weapon

Its all I use in melee.

[quartz spoke]

Is there a list with effects descriptions like Impact, **Power **or Brittleness?

[coral umbra]

Right, but we don't want to horde clear with out ranged

[sterile gate]

tbf I'm pretty sure melee is the intended method of horde clear for everyone but the Psyker

[mighty helm]

Not that I've found

[coral umbra]

We want to take out ranged enemies with it

[sterile gate]

With ranged being intended for clearing specials?

[spiral thorn]

What counts as death for the zealots ability

[heavy shuttle]

I want my cake and to eat it too

lol

[mighty helm]

My flamer disagrees 😛

[proven escarp]

How do i get the clothes from Ogrynn stopping a plague ogrynn charge with my charge? It runs through them. It doesnt stop them. Is it bugged?

[coral umbra]

Right, but you're a zealot lmao

[mighty helm]

Perma stun!

[heavy shuttle]

Zealot seems like a fun class. I heard they were having big pains with temp health (toughness)

[finite vine]

I do love when the game explodes by me as syker and a zealot use flamers crashed hard on that one hahahaha

[coral umbra]

Vets are built for special and elite clear, so to take a flamer instead of a long range weapon limits that pretty hard

[wide granite]

Flamer destroys hordes

[sterile gate]

Less with toughness and more with health damage bleedthrough, I think?

[heavy shuttle]

Agree, even though I dont like it

[coral umbra]

Like flamers are funny but they're not really useful to the vet trait kit

[sterile gate]

Doesn't matter if you can regen all your toughness if getting tapped still hurts your health @.@

[heavy shuttle]

Yeah the bleedthrough has alot of folks tilted

[storm laurel]

true

[wide granite]

The only issue with flamer is that you have no real range and rely on teammates to pick snipers and such

[finite vine]

It got better after they fixed the tough regen feat, isn't perfect but it does it's job.

[storm laurel]

dumbass mechanic they should get rid of it

[coral umbra]

Yes, but at the same time, without it vet stomps

[mighty helm]

I'd like to see a vet gun with high pierce and they just aim at head height and kill like 5+ enemies on weakspot each shot

[proven escarp]

why tilt over a video game

[coral umbra]

I run 300 toughness, I would take no damage ever

[keen thorn]

That’s what I feel plasma gun should have been

[heavy shuttle]

glad to hear yall got some love. On the FS forums there was alot of pain last weekend

[grave heart]

revolver

[mighty helm]

Sounds good

[slow fog]

Toughness bleed through is fine, they should adjust how zealot ability works, not the other way around

[mighty helm]

Maybe make zealot ignore bleedthrough?

[spiral thorn]

What counts as death for the zealots ability

[mighty helm]

A barrel does :p

[heavy shuttle]

Whats that one personality with zealot? the one who is super hyped for the emperor

[slow fog]

Yeah maybe below 50%, health ignore bleedthrough

[grave heart]

change a lvl30 perk to add an ability to not die while you have toughness remaining?

[coral umbra]

Yeah, cause if they got rid of it, they'd need to nerf vet toughness, which in turn would make them less effective in shootouts

[finite vine]

I cooouuuuld kinda see the 25% damage recover feat turned in something around that.

[normal tendon]

Uh…all of them?

[pliant oak]

Can anyone tell me what the combat shotgun special is good for?

[tender quail]

is chasm logistratum the only place that really works for the psykers Cliffhanger penance?

[mighty helm]

Yea that would be good

[heavy shuttle]

There is one that is straight psycho-gf for big E

[slow fog]

It shoots a horizontal spread shot rather than a circular spread

[heavy shuttle]

Voice lines crack me up everytime

[pliant oak]

Oh ok!

[slow fog]

Go shoot a wall at close range and look at the bullet impacts

[mighty helm]

ooohg so aoe headshots :p

[exotic glacier]

The penaces are stupid

[proven escarp]

How do i get the clothes from Ogrynn stopping a plague ogrynn charge with my charge? It runs through them. It doesnt stop them. Is it bugged?

[slow fog]

Yes

[grave heart]

The Most Holy God-Emperor of Mankind, my Beloved

[coral umbra]

I want to be done fishing for no melee damage because I feel like it makes me less helpful to the team

[slow fog]

The special shot rules, it literally cuts enemies in half

[coral umbra]

But every single time I've gone for it, my team has ditched me to clear a horde and I drop the ball

[proven escarp]

Yes to me?

[slow fog]

No

[pliant oak]

Cheers!

[jade canyon]

Nearly at T30 Psyker, want to know what I should play next. Just trying to decide between Ogryn and Sharpshooter

[heavy shuttle]

Vet is strong atm

[proven escarp]

Why you say that? Cosmetics are why i play games, fuck power

[jade canyon]

Powersword looks great

[exotic glacier]

Kill 50 enemies in 10 seconds that are stunned by your grenade as preacher, fucking dumb

[heavy shuttle]

Its the only way to fly atm. (IMO of course))

[hazy gale]

Vet so you know what a good elite killer feels like

[slow fog]

Probably ogryn to rinse the ranged heavy play out of your mouth. I'm doing zealot now and its beautiful

[mighty helm]

Horde + flamer :p

[exotic glacier]

I'm doing that in Heresy dumbass, you think I havent tried?

[heavy shuttle]

Kantrael MG XII is strong for vet too. Alot of folks like the bolter though, I can see why.

[mighty helm]

But I guess you'd need to organise it with your team 😛

[coral umbra]

I want to like ogryn so bad but I just... don't

[hazy gale]

Wow toxic. Sounding like the skill issue is getting to you

[spiral thorn]

Rude ;-;

[pulsar tundra]

swear to god - zealots not throwing out Stumm Grenades like they are party favors is my biggest gripe

[hazy gale]

Too busy charging a stacked gunline for utility items

[heavy shuttle]

When they fix the grenade production perk for Vet feat lvl 10. It'll be bonkers

[pulsar tundra]

have you tried... getting good?

[sick spruce]

hey guys is the psyker push back related to peril level? Im tryna get cliffhanger but they just get pushed like 2 cm

[azure cove]

Fix? Is it broke? I love that perk :<

[pulsar tundra]

yes

[slow fog]

I've not specifically tested it but I think not

[heavy shuttle]

I haven't tested it out myself but on the forums the overwhelming consensus is that its broke.

Same as Crossfire 😦

But let's be honest, the ability to refresh duration on volley fire with scab gunners is.... nuts

[hazy gale]

Sometimes I've noticed enemies just not giving a shit about the push

[proven escarp]

i think more people need to play deep rock galactic to learn what a good community is. Bruv above angry and spewin shit

[north wolf]

Do items have hidden "levels"? like, should I wait with buying weapons for contract points till level 30?

[hazy gale]

Probably just frustrated

[coral umbra]

I mean, they have power level but I wouldn't call that hidden

[heavy shuttle]

My biggest hope when this game was coming out was that it would pull alot of players from DRG. Not to hurt DRG mind you, but to bring the same relaxed community here to DT

[north wolf]

But is that power level tied to trust level?

[burnt pendant]

DRG definitely seems more relaxed.

[coral umbra]

No, it's tied to power level, it is it's own standalone power metric for weapons

Power level affects overall damage, cleave, etc like light level in destiny

[north wolf]

So theoretically, a sword I got at level 11, might be carried all the way to max level and be useful?

[uncut verge]

But what determines the power level for sale in the stores is the question.

[proven escarp]

Ey, people can play both games, but DRG has such an amazing community that really keeps the game running forever. Great devs, but its really held up by how well everyone works together and does their best to be a team and have fun tbh.

[pulsar tundra]

yeah... honestly some of the VT2 Grognards need to go back to kindergarten. my first game I literally got left behind trying to learn the map, eatin by a hound, they didn't even bother to rescue me after being taken captive

[uncut verge]

Nope. Not directly

[coral umbra]

Your highest power level weapon+level, it's a mix of both from what we've seen

[proven escarp]

Ive only seen a few times where someone is kicked in like 300h of play.

[uncut verge]

Power rating is the stats to distribute.

[iron zephyr]

If it's the same as VT2 in a way, your level has its own power as well as the weapons. You get stronger weapons the higher that combined power is if I remember correctly.

[coral umbra]

I mean, that doesn't make what I said not true, I just wasn't going into the micro

[north wolf]

Getting a top tier community is gonna be hard in Darktide. 40k attracts a lot of edgelord weirdos.

[uncut verge]

Well in destiny and Vermintide, power rating IS directly correlated to damage

[coral umbra]

Probably not, weapons do get stronger at higher levels, including the weapons you unlock at high levels like power swords and such. And like others just mentioned, power does affect the weapon stats. A weapon with 400 power just has higher stats than a 100

[heavy shuttle]

Kicking people in DT beta is bad voodo imo. Folks are just trying to learn

[proven escarp]

Thats fair; or people that want the optimal builds for everyone like their lists.

[sterile yarrow]

Is impact stagger? Or is impact something else?

Also does this feat work on ranged or just melee?

[uncut verge]

Here, the stats that affect damage and the traits it has determines damage, so more power rating often does, but not always, do more damage

[mighty helm]

I feel like the power level is more like, has better odds of getting higher overall stats.

[vague shore]

can test this by testing damage with different curios

[heavy shuttle]

Agreed, unfortunately I see that alot on the FS forums

[slow fog]

Literally any game with an ounce of competitiveness will attract big boi tuff gamerz

[pulsar tundra]

Its honestly one of the most openly hostile communities I've ever encountered - I love 40k, rand a Dark Heresy campaign for years, enjoy everything abotu the lore - you couldn't pay me to actually go play the table top.

[uncut verge]

The damage formulas have been data mined. Power rating doesn’t factor

[proven escarp]

Usually its because t heyre being a dick in voice or typing, because bad behavior deserves a dwarf paddlin

[burnt pendant]

Weapon rating is the currency with which the "bars" in a weapon display are filled, and perks and traits bought. Perks cost up to 10 points, traits 25.
A weapon with a higher rating isn't inherently better, but it's probably better at something, and you can easily see what exactly by looking at the bars

[coral umbra]

Yeah, I play on tabletop sim because of it

[heavy shuttle]

I can see that.

[slow fog]

Yeah its one of the reasons I am hanging out in here rather than General Chat. It is all whinging and arguing up there haha

[pulsar tundra]

I have whole collection and could field a nightlords army tomorrow... haven't owned a codex in 20 years.

[uncut verge]

General is a 💩 show. Only god for eating popcorn

[coral umbra]

Being very visibly not cis... even going into most gameshops to get models is a nightmare

[mighty helm]

You couldn't link that could you?

[uncut verge]

[heavy shuttle]

Ork player with big army myself, community made me box it up.

[uncut verge]

It’s a video on YT. On mobile now so don’t feel like the hassle

[proven escarp]

I cant. I cant get into it, much like we did dnd after vaccines came out in person.

Half of 40k to me is the social interaction, the hype of rolling dice together, ordering food, catching up on shit etc. I dont need to win to have fun; I want to have a fun and (hopefully) competitive game.

EDIT: also Trying to keep my cat off the middle of the table because hes an asshole. And seeing how people paint stuff; my best are the ones my wife painted lol. She doesnt even play.

[mighty helm]

lol fair enough

[north wolf]

Yeah, but 40k is always gonna be a bit worse on top because it's like.. space facism, and there's a bunch of people who unironically like the fascism aspect.

[uncut verge]

If you search for videos on this channel you’ll find it. Was posted earlier today again

[slow fog]

this is true

[mighty helm]

Seems to be this https://youtu.be/9QlBkFN9RRw

[jagged lava]

ok yall what class should i pick to start

[uncut verge]

That’s the one

[coral umbra]

Honestly I haven't had fun at an in person game in... years? The moment I started transitioning it was just constant harassment

[mighty helm]

Cheers 😛

[pulsar tundra]

zealot or sharpshooter

[burnt pendant]

Now that I think about it, with my lack of suppressive fire on a zealot, I think I really miss the bolt staff from VT2. Specifically, its primary fire.

[pulsar tundra]

zealot or sharpshooter - the other classes will be easier once you pick up the basics of melee and ranged support

[tired crown]

I started with the veteran and it's a blast. Very straightforward (as straightforward as Darktide can be)

[spiral thorn]

40k is more feudal but in the future then fascism

[coral umbra]

And convincing non-toxic people to get into 40k is hard because it's so expensive and has such a bad reputation

[heavy shuttle]

Also, not to break up the convo but is Infernus good on the Kantrael XII? Slow(er) firing lasgun meant for sniper

[spiral thorn]

Im looking forward to vashtorr on the table top

[uncut verge]

40k universe is ripe with fascism satire

[slow fog]

Zealot is a melee brawler
Sharpshooter is a gun and grenade boi
Ogryn is the only dedicated "support class" - he's a tank
Psyker is a specialist, with a priority role of killing specials

[coral umbra]

Well... "satire" it kinda stopped being too satirical for a bit there

[tired crown]

Crap wrong gun! Sorry. Bad advice!

[hallow cave]

Is it better to go for curios with wounds or with hp?

[proven escarp]

fr? I host someone every month (sometimes twice); i have a FB that doesnt have my name or identity and I meet people. Theres been some epic games, theres been some slaughters, but ive always had fun. I make good enough lists (not optimal) but really focus on having fun and relaxing. The ups and downs of random dice rolls and crazy shit are just stories to make the battle more fun imo. Aint no thing if someone gets fucked up (most people lighten up a bit w/strategy if its really bad) but tbh i cant remember t he last time ive had a bad interaction.

I got sodas, 2 tiny dogs, a nice cat, an asshole cat, and it coo. Can throw music or something on the TV

[slow fog]

It was always satire, just not haha satire.

[burnt pendant]

Warhammer in general is ridiculously expensive. Then again, if you're playing privately, I heard you can just 3d-print your models.
Anyways, on the actual topic of this channel: Will Voidstrike staff blast radius deal damage through cover?

[uncut verge]

Some of the fans ignored the satire part of it, but the makers have always intended it to be

[keen thorn]

No, cover blocks it.

[pulsar tundra]

yeah, space fascism is a bit much. Trying to link the community to actual fascists is cringe and lazy intellectually. Its just one of the oldest and most competitive games so its got a long history and a very devout fanbase..

[jagged lava]

@slow fogleaning towards psyker or sharpershooter

[tired crown]

I think it might, but I know that it does work well against enemies behind cover. It explodes when hitting solids though.

[uncut verge]

Yeah this

[coral umbra]

It's mostly outside of games. A lot of the players I've met will go out of their way to make sure trans people know they're not welcome

[uncut verge]

Satire commentary, not satire comedy

[tired crown]

Yeah sorry! The Kantrael is my favorite las gun tbh, very good for removing enemy gunners and specials with the veteran ability.

[keen thorn]

For voidstrike you can aim at the sides of the cover to have it detonate and stagger that group.

[slow fog]

Psyker is probably the sweatiest of them. It also has a bit of a ramp up before you get strong, as the first two staffs aren't that good. Once you hit around level 20 though you become a (squishy) wreckingball

[burnt pendant]

I miss a bolt-staff-a-like, but anything that helps against distant enemies in cover in too great quantities to just BB them is good in my book.
Besides just picking a rifle, of course, though I just might. But then, why play psyker. The class is a bit underwhelming.

[heavy shuttle]

No worries. Its becoming my favorite as well. Strong agree with everything you said.

[pulsar tundra]

Get off the cross - Europe needs the wood...

[tired crown]

I've used it reliably in difficulties 3-4 and though I always come back to the bolter, it's a solid side grade if the slowly firing (compared to recon, for example) but harder hitting is your jam.

[pulsar tundra]

The whole community and price tag rejects most people

[tired crown]

Plus just oodles of ammo.

[spiral thorn]

Warhammer is about as pricey as gaming if you play a variety of video games. I own about 4 2k or larger armies and have friends who own game collections pricier then my plastic crack

[slow fog]

Sucks to hear that - I hope you find a cool group to play with 🏳️‍⚧️

[heavy shuttle]

Does a Critical Hit count as a weak point hit or am I crossing the two up?

[keen thorn]

Psykers don’t use ammo and can target specials a lot easier in some ways. It also has amazing CC ability too with lightning staffs.

[uncut verge]

My Steam library is “worth” a boat load, but it’s inflated from what I spent because of humble bundle, free games, and Steam sales

[jagged lava]

umm does it matter for psyker what home world i choose?

[coral umbra]

I'm slowly teaching people over tabletop sim, and now if I can just teach them to paint I'm in business

[uncut verge]

It doesn’t

[slow fog]

Backstory is 100% cosmetic

[uncut verge]

Mostly not even cosmetic. Unless you’re cadian and pick casual exclusive eyes/voice all the back story has no impact and nobody can even tell

[keen thorn]

The only way specific is cadia homeworld gets a couple more eye colors.

[slow fog]

Yeah I mean cosmetic in the non-gameplay related sense

[subtle urchin]

question, how does this shred bonus work? off of cleave multi hits or revved hits? also how long does it last?

[tired crown]

@heavy shuttle they're different, you'll do extra damage on crits or weak point hits (in general) and extra+extra damage on both.

[slow fog]

also a specific voice

[uncut verge]

Cosmetic usually means others can tell some way, somehow.

But there’s absolutely nothing beyond your own head cannon

[heavy shuttle]

So to answer my own question, Infernus perk gets overshadowed by weak point dmg perks for veteran

[spiral thorn]

Do you live in canada or elsewhere? It might be the place you live rather then the community as a whole. At the very least ive never felt ostracised despite dressing in feminine clothing as a man. Not the same thing but viewed similarly by the groups that dislike us

[coral umbra]

I'm in the states, so definitely location is a large factor. There's a lot of directed media attention towards us lately

[pulsar tundra]

You'd think a chainsword would have less damage against flak armor - flak armor being things like kevlar, which is actually used in safety gear for big chainsaws and logging equipment...

[spiral thorn]

Stop using logic jeez

[tired crown]

@heavy shuttle I'm sorry man. I misread your question earlier. Is infernus the burning trait?

[heavy shuttle]

yessir

[keen thorn]

The teeth are made from some kind of super material or something, idk. Lol

[uncut verge]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-your-mouth-shut-stop-gif-8131170

[tired crown]

I can't imagine it would be too helpful unless against monstrosities, mainly because you want to delete your target quickly.

[pulsar tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/columbus-day-christopher-columbus-gif-6093567

Seems I've angered the natives

[heavy shuttle]

Very true

[plain nimbus]

because in 40k canon, the chainsword chipping off thing at molecular level. so in a sense everything will just evaporate against it

[obtuse kite]

is heresy bugged? i ran a couple the other day and now we get downed by a sniper in every room.

[shrewd pendant]

do you have to buy the higher rated item to find other items that are higher rated or is simply discovering it good enough?

[spiral thorn]

Damage is mostly based on game balance rather then logic. Kind of like how in some FPS games melee does more damage then guns but its cuz its harder to melee then to shoot someone so they reward you with lots of damage to balance the approaches

[shrewd pendant]

seems like this game has a system like New World if anyone knows about that

[slow fog]

As a fresh 30, I found a 475 item in the contract shop. I think its just random

[uncut verge]

Based on highest power rating you’ve ever had in inventory

[heavy shuttle]

Hrm. But add the 'weak point' 'headshot' factor in there and it balances out and even pushes past melee in DT

[shrewd pendant]

is there a post about that?

[uncut verge]

Just how Tide series has always worked

[shrewd pendant]

is it different per piece or can i just buy highest rated guns

[uncut verge]

Not by piece. Overall

[shrewd pendant]

i guess curios have a hidden thing since they're 100 and not 500 base

[uncut verge]

Trinkets and weapons have different scale but are related by some math

[spiral thorn]

Was mostly thinking of other FPS games rather then darktide. Like in COD or halo where melee can basically one shot people due to the difficulty of pulling off melee kills. In darktide shooting and melee are rather even due to the focus of switching between them mid combat. But my point was sometimes logic is dropped for balance or at least an attempt at balance for a games sake

[uncut verge]

I mean, they could be separated here, I don’t know that it was data mined. Curios goes up slower either way

[spiral thorn]

Like in the lore ogryns are much tougher then just 50 percent or double a human. Lasguns should basically not even damage him lol

[pulsar tundra]

That doesn't wash - cutting still requires tension. Tension in a chainsword is generated by rotational force fromt he driving action. Kevlar doesn't stop a chainsaw by stoping it from cutting - its stops it by literally jaming the rotational mechanism. The chainsaw cuts through plenty of kevlar fibers...

[spiral thorn]

And he is stronger then a space marine

[slow fog]

Its science fantasy

Stop trying to use real world logic to unpick minutia