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I assume CD reduction Feat and the lvl 30 Feat that doubles range, but it seems overtuned
idk man, even with no enemies around and just chilling waiting for someone to get back from the toilet, grims were corrupting 1 hp every 10 or so seconds
So my main issue with the stubber is I feel like the gauntlet does all those thing except horde clear, much faster, more accurately, and efficiently.
When I see a nade dude, sniper, or trapper in a horde or in the distance I don’t want to have to lug out a big gun and slowly aim, I want to be able to swap in half a second and take the shot and end it there. And all the way of up Damnation, even less than perfect gauntlets can do that perfectly. It also reloads much faster and kills reapers and other Ogryns much quicker. There’s a few areas where the stubber is better, mostly horde clear and suppression, but overall I think the gauntlet is way more versatile in the ways that matter for an Ogryn.
You don’t really need to horde clear as an Ogryn with your ranged weapon, and the gauntlet lets you stun enemies then close the gap and finish them.
And the fast swap speed is huge for heresy and Damnation where you have to swap and take some rounds to deal with an immediate special or elite threat.
any tips for getting Zealot's "Just a flesh wound" penance (one wound remaining challange)
Yeah u do need the unstoppable feat at level 30 for it to work and that’s about it for feats. Otherwise just jump into damnation missions and hope that they are 4 ogryns in the beginning.
I totally see that, I just frankly dislike the Gauntlet haha, so many times I try to take out a Rager in a mixed group of melee, only for the contact damage to go into some Scab infantry, or trying to bean a sniper/gunner behind a railing, only for my shots to either overshoot or hit the fencing and only knock them down. You can caulk it up to skill issue.
Also idk if I just got terrible rolls, but requiring multiple nades to take out Elites makes it feel not great to me, since the second shot is now harder to land (due to the knockdown of the first shot)
half cover wont work if you crouch they snipe the top of your head and chain gunners can make you slow to where you no longer move and this can stack with the inaccuracy effect
What type of mission is the best type to try to get Overwatch?
What do people recommend for veteran's lv 30 feat?
does the no melee damage penance for vet include toughness damage or just health?
anyone found out what's the top item pwr?
if it worked properly Counterfire would be the most generally useful, but it is very inconsistent right now. I've used the boss/ogryn one woth the bolter and it's very fun, the toughness restore is pretty decent too
The reload one is good too with bolters for that double salvo
What’s the best way to play ogryn on higher difficulty’s with tons of ranged enemies? I can dance through anything in melee but ranged dudes just rip me apart
Any tips for leveling a bit quicker?
get a squad maybe?
play malice but you need a decent squad
I found the same. It took me a moment to appreciate the gauntlets uses but on heresy it's so useful. Very versatile cc, special sniper, quick switch, good single target damage. Can easily deal with huge waves with shield so it's lack of horde killing ability isn't an issue.
Also the downward heavy is very satisfying that it can knock down all ogryn variants.
what are generally preferred curios for ogryn?
I have no friends.
Probably health given their toughness
I like to add a wound or two and gunner resistance plus health
Health gets multiplied a shitton by their already massive health pool so you get a lot of bang for your Buck with it
dont know if its a bug or not but all melee attacks for ogryn ranged weapons cause bleed, very useful if you have the damage resist from bleeding enemies feat
hold on to your different curios, swap them in and out depending on mission etc
I second health increases, even with low level curios you can add a whole other character worth of hp to your ogryn.
I keep on attempting to do the Warp Battery penance for Psyker but I feel as if it's bugged and won't let it register that I did it
Question, do Lynchpin and Diehard apply to the flat toughness regen you get from kills or solely the passive regen from coherency?
Anyone know how the decimator trait works for axes? Just says x% power on hit (stacks 5 times) but I've been testing and it seemingly does nothing
anyone know when the Thunder Hammer and Eviscerator unlock?
got eviscerator at 21, haven't been playing super close attention though
yeah i still haven't seen an eviscerator or thunder hammer and i'm level 17, started getting flamers in the mix at 14
how do you sell weaponsd?
"Discard" -> gives you currency.
Do you get anything for finishing missions? loot?
Sometimes.... rarely.
From what I understand, it requires a difficulty higher than Malice... so 4 or 5.
I wonder if there will be a bit more gear in the final game. just weapons and the 3 slots seems a bit meager.
What do you mean? It's all about "equippables that grant us stats to customize our character / playstyle"... you don't need lots of gear for that. VT2 doesn't have more than that 
Bodyarmor is "looks only"
Make sure you walk in front of veteran gunfire for good measure. Those are your kills
actually glad it aint more than vt had. there's enough variety already that you have to sift through a lot of equip before a build potentially comes together. will be easier once crafting comes in but we all know the real grind is pushing that GS to max and then getting the good rolls to iterate on
So does anyone know why the lower rating staff does more damage in 100% of the cases on all enemies in the psykhanium. Its about 25% more damage
i have found that Shield + high Stamina recovery is really good. I draw aggro on all gunners while other teammates kill everyone.
for hordes i get my machine gun out and blast everything
I think "plus ranged damage" is busted, it does way more damage overall, not only elites.
Yeah, has to be a bug related to that
Ill wait until i get another one with the stat. It's really weird
Is there a way to make the psykers head pop just happen on a button press? Switching to "hands" and then holding mouse feels odd and wrong.
I had two XII lasguns that are more or less the same except one has damage bar over half and the other - like a sixth of it. The lower damage has +4% ranged damage "elites" and it indeed did more damage (around 10% more than the big bar gun)
It's bugged, multiple reports of people checking it with a chrono on the side - me included - say it doesn't register properly. Don't waste your time with it for now.
Is the pick up scriptures contract bugged? Just finished a mission where we got all 3 scriptures and I was one of the people that picked one up but I got no progress on it, am I doing something wrong?
Is the reapers gun ingame or do ogryns have to wait for launch for that?
its a long shot but is anyone up to help me get 'On Overwatch' Penance, i'm about to hang myself
any zealot wants to get the Just a fleshwound penenance cosmetic?
Ogryn has a twin-linked stubber, but you don't see it til around lvl 25
Does anybody know if they fixed the zealot bugs yet? I heared like 3-4 cruicial parts of their kit are not working as intendet.
Of thats a late unlock
Today I learned what the difference between the Duelling Swords is:
- Mk2 has slash > slash > slash > slash as light attack and stab > slash as heavy
- Mk4 has slash > slash > slash > slash as light attack and stab > stab as heavy
- Mk5 has slash > slash > overhead as light attack and overhead > overhead as heavy
are weapon stats broken? my 301 force sword with lower bars on everything does 5 more points of damage in the test area against all mobs versus a 334 with significantly higher bars all over. exactly the same weapon pattern and the traits it rolled with are non-damage.
Itemlevel is also a stat 
From what I understand, the bars are merely an indication of how much of the stat scales with itemlevel.
I feel like there's gonna be a lot of confusion in the future with how items are done. :D
It's also kinda hard to tell when you should go up in difficulty.
Anybody here know how to get that long bomb thing done for the sharpshooter? I have tried so many times and cant get it at all.
I thought so too. So shouldn't it be the case that the 301 with lower bars does LESS damage than a 334 with significantly higher bars?
This is confusing af. Fatshark pls explain. 😕
It's also not super clear to me when you should increase difficulty in this game.
I assume for leveling
it's more or less the same with vt2: assuming you've been progressing your gear, move up a difficulty if your current one becomes ez. if you can't cut it, go back and practice some more.
That's so hard to judge because: "am I doing enough, or is the team carrying".
Sounds like the game needs a scoreboard…..
Keep count on elite and special kills and criticize your survivability skills in missions, do you get downed once? twice? thrice? Did you do a lot of damage to Beasts of Nurgle or Plague Ogryns? etc
<@&735928989146939404> I don't think we currently need 2min slow mode in this channel.
You know, I always wondered what an Ogryns job was... And I played one. I loved keeping Monstrosities and other Ogryn units staggered and at bay as the team just erases them
Ah, Good advice, but I do play psyker so that skews elite kills a bit.
I don't need a scoreboard, but I would like to see my own stats after a game. Just my own.
thanks to the devs not giving us a scoreboard, we're forced to evaluate ourselves instead. am i getting hit a lot due to lack of dodge/push? am i actively tagging elites/specials?
the more you play the more you'll end up seeing if any aspects of your gameplay are lacking
In my experience, scoreboards tend to make a lot of toxic players, however, this isn't the fault of the scoreboards. I personally use them to try to improve in area's I lack in, I've just seen others use it in a toxic manner.
So criticize your survivability skills and the amount how useful you were to the team depending on how well they survived with you being a psyker, a CC/single target class I’m a psyker aswell
Any tips on killin a monstrosity in 5 seconds or less for the 3rd Penance? Is it just overgearing on a low mission or are there weapons that do a ton of damage to em regardless? (also them spawning way out in the wild sometimes messes with it... unless it counts from first damage taken?)
There was a lot of toxicity in Vermintide 1-2 and Darktide does show it little bit aswell which sucks
To be honest, I haven't felt super useful yet in any mission, but I'm still low level. Feels like other classes a mowing enemies, and I'm just kinda pea-shooting around.
And the head-pop skill takes so long, half the times the targets I have die before it goes off. Heck, even on elites it feels that by the time the headpop casts trough, someone could have just shot it to death.
If you have force lightning staff, youll become an insane cc bot.
toxic people don't need tools to be a-holes, they'll be toxic with or without a scoreboard. people who want to improve their gameplay on the other hand would benefit greatly from having one and be negatively impacted by having none.
Darktide has the downside of being a 40k game as well, and sadly 40k attracts a lot of wannabe fascists. So it's likely gonna be a bit worse than regular warhammer.
Is Heresy+ not fun?
Been trying it out and overall it just a bit unenjoyable experince in any way it’s very slow and boring to keep getting stuck on elites one after another after another, then followed by the ranged units. Am I just playing the difficulty wrong or is it just poor gameplay experience on the 2 hardest modes?
I’ve not fealt that at all, it seems that a there are quite a few who have this same thought as you do, it depends on if your team knows how psyker works, what it does and doesn’t kill instantly. Untill you get your first staff you never go autogun imo, staying on heavy laspistol, stub pistol or lasgun is a good choise for ammo and damage sense
@flint stone It's a different kind of fun. It's more methodical and slow when progressing through the level, and way more frenetic when it kicks off. But it's also massively more satisfying when you work as a team to make that happen. Malice in comparison you can just happily mow your way through without much thought, which is a more chilled type of fun, but less gratifying when you succeed.
There’s currently a bug where Heresy has Endless Hordes as a condition always if Fewer Hordes isn’t active, you can check this when you hold tab during a mission and only then if the mission intentionally doesn’t have Endless/Fewer Hordes
Well for me it's just a first impression. I'm quite early in on psyker. I'm also not really sure when to use the gun. It's been a lot of headpops into melee honestly.
Why not autogun? That's another thing that's honestly quite difficult to figure out: Why pick any gun over another? What does psyker have synergy with?
Im ogryn so trying to farm the 100rush/ multi rush….
@graceful steppe spawns feel bad / ranged units always everywhere making a lot of the gameplay just not fun.
I see it like this. Malice is not a threat any more, therefore there's no great chance of failure, meaning its not very exciting. I'd rather sweat myself through a room and fail than do a smooth boring run.
I guess it's subjective and I'm also a bit of a VT die hard so that's my bias.
Autogun has little reserves, mag sizes are stupid and the damage doesn’t balance it out with the recoil very little amount of precision. You use a melee when you see an enemy next to you, you use BB when you see a special/elite or when you need warp charges later in the game when you level up, you use your range/staff when you don’t need to do the things I listed. Lasgun imo works good with Psyker because it’s precise, does decent damage and reserves aren’t garbage
@north wolf if we're talking guns, the autogun in my experience is the worst. it has low mag capacity, extreme recoil, and damage is bad. my Kantrael MG XII Infantry lasgun on the other hand one tap body shots ranged mobs. and in higher difficulties, those ranged mobs will be the death of your squad if left unchecked.
They need more difficulties cause the shift is to big especially with challenges locked like this…
Pups become near impossible
Alright thanks fellas. I'll take that into account but I'll go sleep for now.
Yeah I've yet to get that one myself. Currently managed 66/100 with my best charge.
Thoughts on the heavy las pistol?
seems to pierce flak armor better than the lasguns
there are 4 diffferent autoguns, 1 is low mag, then a med mag and a med mag with burst and a big magazine one, the bigger the magazine the more reserve ammo going from 13 rounds up to 48 Rounds... Braced variants eshews ADS but have even more ammo. A Columnus Braced has more effective ammo than any lasgun. The Dakka is strong with that one.
So like end point in 1/2/3 good scaling good gameplay … 4/5 poor scaling which makes gameplay poor yet the gameplay is still good.
the phyker challenge on heresy is nuts
The autoguns aren't too bad they just require adjusting your playstyle.
With burst or automatic guns you should hip fire most of the time unless you're going for a longer range target, then your should aim low and let the recoil pull your aim up to the head
Oh one last issue I have before I go: Everything is so dark and same looking in this game, I have REAL trouble making out elites.
Never had that issue in vermintide, those were always easy to spot. But in Darktide? Most of the time I go: "Is that an elite? I think so, maybe, not sure" and can only really tell when they're right in my face.
Which one
Increase gamma
just spam ping if you have troubles or increase gamma
most of the elites have green glows about them. Compared to VT2's monks for example, ragers are an easy spot.
Are the Cleavers or clubs better in the beginning for an Ogryn? I want to end up with a shield, just trying to think what to use while I get there
What level are you? I should say my heresy experience has been level 22-25 so I imagine with max level and better gear it'll feel more like malice+
I hope at least!
27 even then it’s not dmg is the issue or like lack of it’s …. Enemy ai spawns in the rear at a constant rate so there is always someone behind you no matter what, the elites just infinitely spawn like there candy….. with the way melee works ranged units will still shoot you Until you stand on top of them and the then you just take extra dmg since you have no way to avoid dmg at range.
We did have 4 muties spawn at once. That was hilarious.
From my testing I'm positive if you place meat between yourself and the shooter, they won't shoot their friends in the back
Ogryns make that near impossible to much bashing. Shield works but then your hit in the back…. Am I just not using ranged enough…. It’s reverse vermintide yet I’m still playing like vermintide…..
You will die if you play as vermintide, also having enemies hit you in the back is you placing yourself poorly,
You take out ranged enemies preferably at range, if you play ogryn or zealot with flamer, you'll have to learn to time dodges, sprinting sideways (these dodge bullets) in order to flank.
You want to use enough ammo so you're always happy to find ammo.
Also if your sharpshooter is doing his job, he'll shoot ranged enemies as you bash (again, hide behind meat to not get shot, I crouch even) or dodge sideways.
Also !
There's suppressing fire - if you throw bullets in direction of shooter boys, they'll run to hide and take cover and won't shoot back
As shield ogryn - less bashing ahead, more protecting your team's shooters (and bash the trash coming close)
Ogryns have most hp and least toughness, they're made for horde clearing or bodyguarding as of right now to my taste
Just shoot more though that doesn’t fix the issue with heresy scaling in just wild manners with almost double spawns over malice….
malice already spawns a ton more specials and elites, I never played past that difficulty
how bad is it on heresy
can you ask for anything better?
You want to be leveled up for Heresy,
Instead of a knife for a horde, your zealot has a flamethrower,
Instead of hoping for your sharpshooter to shoot the sniper, you've a heavy stubber, taking down elites in seconds,
Your veteran just pops specials with 2 bolter shots
There's a reason an achievement asks you to tackle 4 ogryn specials with one charge
replace the corruption resistance with extra xp
no
Imo, Ogryns should try to Control the tide for their team, trying to wade through it will leave you battered and bruised before drowning you
how can i get wepons over 410? (without using the Requisitorium) since 2 days im hardstuck at the same tarsh weapons D:
Ye Ogryns are crowd control rn, bodyguards, bouncers type,
More focus on stunning the ragers in the horde rather than damaging them.
Zealot is the close range damage specialist
Not even Tier 4-5 Missions drop weapons over 410 :/
I’ll be honest ogryn heavy tank anti wave control with the twin linked for taking down ranged when no one else is doing it have me drained so bad …. Idk how any other class plays was stuck at 26 for 2 days due to the servers sooo it’s not I’m bad it’s just I’m drained and also heresy sucks as a scaling up from malic as the playstyle is different and pubs do not know that but it shows.
back in my day you could play as any character and excel both in combat and their subrole 
Did anyone else discover the dodge slide exploit?
Could be less your style, I find myself in Heresy using 200% of my brain sometimes, flanking and planning moves instead of just paying attention and pewpew,
Try to play Zealot!
Yeah, it's crazy , trivialised heresy missions basically
Sadly next on my list at 30 is sharpshooter already started and hyped to live out my gaurdsmen dream.
If you're not enjoying Ogryn rn just move on, you don't win the game at 30, go do something fun, I thought you'd prefer Zealot
As far as i know you can only use it with high mobility weapons,i mainly used the tactical axe but i think it can be done with the little combat knife
I was kidding I've no idea what exploit you mean
I'm realizing more and more that an Ogryn does a lot better of a job keeping large Elites/Specialists at bay. Keeping a Horde at bay is just hard for me, unless Im doing something incorrectly
What melee weapon?
Well, Im only level 5, so I have a Bully club or cleavers.
What do you do with this? I cant seem to find it anywhere in cosmetics.
Setup should I be aiming for on Vet for moving in to T4+
Charm for waepon
toughness and toughness regen
Howdy friends. Is Brain Burst the psyker's default G ability that makes heads pop? I've killed maybe 5-6 pox hounds with it and i have yet to get this penance reward. Am I doing something wrong?
Well Bully Club has tons of stagger and cleave so it should be good at Hordes unless you're doing something odd.
Cleavers have a bunch of variations that have different movesets that slightly specialize in different things, but they all should have a wide sweep.
If you're finding yourself surrounded, remember that you can Block and Push to control the horde
They need to be in midair. It will take a little luck/timing
P.S: I just read the key word "pouncing" 🤦♂️
Is it just me or is the grenadier gauntlet an absolute beast for an ammo/ result perspective? I absolutely love that thing. it kills half of specials in one shot, the ones it doesn't it stumbles/ knocks on it's arse
How do I use it?
I'm having issues upgrading my gear. Both weapons and curios. L30 Psyker. I never get anything good from the Armory anymore. And the stuff from the weekly is not even related to Psykers. Is it possible that I'm doing something wrong?
I think the most difficult thing for me is that I'm used to my power sword on my vet having cleaves on demand. I guess I'm not sure which combo I'm looking for for cleaving. The cleaver I got just keeps stabbing foward or does an overhead slash like a club
Does Weapon Rating even mater?
In eq choose waepon to see and under one of keybinds there is option to view and customize
You can Inspect [v] weapons to get a (not super clear) overview of the combos they have. Sounds like you have the Cleaver that goes Slash -> Stab -> Stab. It's the single target variant of the Cleaver
Combo symbols:
"Impact/Explosion" symbol -> Single Target, Armor Piercing (Overheads/Stabs)
"Sword Slash" -> Cleaving slashes
"3-way Arrows" -> Stagger/Knockback based strike, width/cleave depends on weapon
"Sword Point" -> Fast Crit Anti-flesh/weakpoint
That would definitely explain a lot then. I'll take a look at new cleavers and clubs when I get another chance. Thanks
Not just you, I love it
When you get Level 10 I think you start getting shield and club show up, that one slaps the horde around really easily. huge cleave on normal attacks with the club and heavy attacks with the shield.
I wasn't much a fan of the cleavers and mainly used the club until I got the shield
is this worth grabbing for Psyker?
Yea, I'm excited for the shield. I'm just trying my best to get to it. I just found myself struggling with hordes with my current weapon. I'm so used to Vet all I did was shoot. Never checked combos
When you're getting pushed by so many specials and elites the gren gaunt just handles things so well.
What is Power, is that Rating?
The Latrine Shovel (Yes, Ogryns have a poop scoop as a weapon) is a good combination of Anti-Horde and Single Target Heavy, very easy to use
Uncanny Strike is awesome... but personally I'm not a Fan of the Mk2 Moveset
Right? I thought it was just me. I used the ripper but you use quite a bit of ammo for not much result. the auto cannon is nice but that gauntlet is so good. Holding off the horde with shield, crusher appears? spot it and knock it on it's arse with the gauntlet for your humble pupper zealot to snack on
finally got sith lightning and fuck to the yesssss
Stat totals of the bars actually Sorry, Rating is stat totals. Power is an unknown modifer, but if it's like Vermintide, it's a general multiplier to everything
It really cements ogryn as cc King and let's you deal with difficult foes like snipers or bursters running through hordes.
So king CC and always move forward in a horde when properly equipped?
It looks great but isn't that good later. It only zapps 3-4 Enemies even when fully charged. So depending on Group Composition you might want to go more for AoE damage.... that said, the "Zap" actually stuns/staggers so that's not too bad
Ogryn shield with bleed on heavy absolutely minces hordes. The heavy shield backhand has infinite cleave, large sweeping arc and knockdown to the side.
Ogryns should control the tide for their team, not wade through it. Pushing forward constantly leaves you surrounded by enemies, move as a group
Yeah, it's horde management.
And the Shield heavy has insane IMPACT... can even Stun/Stagger the super-heavy Enemies
Pushing Crushers off a cliff is funny
full charge stuns 6 enemies
But only the regular Trash. Less so if there's Elites in the group. Elites seem to lower the number of affected enemies.
How do you manage the tide of a horde? I've never seen any ogryns while leveling my vet, so I'm just used to taking the brunt with a sword
Every fucking time I go for the no shoot penance I disconnect and that means you can't get fucking penances
if it's all elites it's 4 yeah. Permastunning 4 elites is pretty good
sometimes I get 5 or 6 though on all elites with no charge in the Psykanium randomly. It doesn't make much sense
Enemies in great numbers approaching, what are the threats? Just Poxwalkers? Become an anchor and stop the swarm. Are Ragers/Maulers/Crushers/Bulwarks approaching? If so, are my teammates occupied by a swarm or can they help me kill the specials while I CC them? Am I seperated? Time to go towards the team
actually it looks like I almost always get 5 or 6 regardless of charge and regardless of number of elites, at least in the Psykanium. Idk
Depends on a lot of factors. You need to balance being a blocker between the enemy and your team without blocking line of sight. Consistency is key. I want my allies to know if they need a sec to reload, brain burst etc that I am a safezone. Keep your cc consistent and predictable.
Stick to a side, don't dance in the middle blocking shots and managing two directions
The goal is to let ranged teammates decide if they want to bang bang or swish swish, that means preventing them from being swarmed, while also allowing them to shoot past you (don't stand in the middle of the lane, avoid crossing the sight lines ect.)
yes but my other option is the trauma staff and i hate that one
Keep on leveling, at about L24 you get the BOOM-Stick
Do we know what the finesse stat does on swords?
also with the lightning or void or flamerstaffs do i want the quell toughness gain or the warp kill toughness gain? also i really wish there were more ways to get warp kills in melee, as the normal strikes from a force sword don't count for that.
I appreciate the advice with Ogryns. I'll see what I can get my hands on when I get back on
You can get "some" via Team-Member kills or with the L25 Talent... but BB is still your best option
I can continue to write little quips about being the anchor for the team, but in general, my thought process is one question: "How do I make the enemy do less damage to the team in this situation?":
Moving in ways that causes friendly fire means that enemies aren't dying instead, ranged players getting swarmed means they get hurt, the Zealot charging in means they need backup. ect.
Ogryns arn't really tanks and they're really vulnerable to ranged fire. It's 100% legit to not wade into a massive horde and instead use corners and cover.
A lot of the problems I see while playing ogryn is players zelot yeeting into the swarm and into the open like they're playing vermintide. This isn't vermintide and the addition of ranged mobs makes zelot yeeting really stupid and the higher the difficulty the more obvious that is. Don't be afraid to hang back in a better spot if you're teammates are playing like idiots. ogryn will just die in the open to ranged fire.
Before I got the shield I used the club or shovel, don't use heavy attacks because you'll basically take a lot of punishment inbetween swings. for me, I handle the horde with fast swings and pushes. I gather a bit of space when elites are coming with a push, and either kill/ stumble the elite with 1 shot from my grenadier gauntlet after spotting it. The psyker/ sharpshooter can do the lords work while it tries to figure out why it's arse is now where it's head was.
I had a really fun game where I could swear every time I deployed my shield I had the sharpshooter come and couch by my leg, using me as cover to fire. ahhh, gots to protec the lil'uns
u can charge yolo in groups u just need the right weapon and build
- Toughness on Chained Hit is an amazing trait for Ogryn Blue/Purple/Gold weapons and I would never take a weapon without it anymore lol
It makes you so tanky in melee
Doing that on Heresy or Damnation surely needs a death-wish... or just LOTS of faith in the emperor
at what level will i see the heavy stubber start showing up for my ogryn?
Around 20
doing it all the time 😄
Big-E seems to like you.
I don't really feel that, I play a lot on malice and their are absolutely situations to charge in but the higher the difficulty it just becomes less and less viable. Ranged fire will SHRED the ogryn, a burst from a normal guardsman nearly takes all my toughness off. I preferer to inch forward, deploying the shield as I go to attract as much fire as I can
does the flamer not count as ranged weapon?
im lvl 30 and still feel unprepared for Heresy let alone Damnation
People say it doesn't count against the challenge.
Logically, does the Flamer fire a "shot"? 😛
It shoots fire 🥲
Got a feeling that might be bugged
the difficulty spike from malice to heresy is crazy
It's honestly pretty thematically appropriate
It could be bugged
oooor it's a dev being pedantic (the challenge specifies firing a shot, not prohibiting the use of your ranged weapon)
....it's probably a bug 🤣
the spike between 2-3 is crazy. you go from, hey this is nice to holy shit is that a crusher and 2 rippers I see? Why is my health going down, who are these 3 green fellas with dual axes knocking at front door? are these space Mormons?
i figure by time you're consistently completing Malice you're level 30, then you jump into Heresy and get stomped within the first 10mins
3 gets pretty manageable after 20
Working as intended. I don't see the need for Damnation+ mods any time soon 
Around 20 you have enough experience and Feats/gear then Malice becomes consistent (assuming you don't get saddled with low levels that have no situational awareness)
maybe i just got unlucky with loot, at 20-25 I was consistently completing 2s and warming up to 3s
I had a go at heresy for the first time at 22. we failed (had a level 7 and a level 11).
Oddly enough we actually got past the mid point in the mission. No idea how that happened. Really enjoyed it. I really like the more methodical and slower approach you take on the higher difficulties
You just gotta move at a steady pace and try to maintain cohesion.
everytime i jump into heresy there's an army of elites right at the beginning
Does anyone know if the chainsword has been improved since the last beta? The impression was it was okay for armored enemies but bad for hordes which your fighting 90% of the time
last time i did heresy on the map where you have the guards surrounding the area you run through, we had elites spawning behind us where the guards were, and they just watched us get slaughtered from both sides
That really does seem to happen a lot but after that initial big fight in heresy things spread out more
it would have been cool to see the guards shoot at the heretics, but they just watched in silence
You mean the Assassination Mission where the Target arrives by Train... where your first enemies are on that big bridge?
that starts happening on malice. Humbles me at the very beginning haha
And now we wait for the "Tzeentchian Twins" Modifier 
tbh the mission types blend together for me but i believe so. it's the map that has all the guards and the tank
My friends tried a 5 and actually got surprisingly far given none of us were 30. Got to the unfolding staircase in the prison assassination
its builds I think
the map on Heresy where you run through the sewer before you drop down into the first area where you start fighting, there's always an army of elites standing right there where you drop down ready to slap you silly
just when you start feeling strong, Heresy is there to humble you
Ah yeah I remember dropping down the sewer at the start during CBT, only to see a Crusher and 2 Maulers
"Damnation" is a pretty appropriate name for the highest difficulty 
Was there any input from Fatshark regarding the crafting on the release?
i imagine in damnation there's just snipers shooting at you the entire time
speaking of snipers, in Heresy i got combo'd by a mutant and a sniper, after the mutant grabbed me and threw me a sniper shot me mid air
Any ogrym out there that have gotten the bootiful pants yet? or is that not possible right now? heard something about ogrym bullrush distance was nerfed before beta, but they never changed the achieve for it?
I loved and hated the "deploy fake intel" map for that reason... after you upload the first set of Cypher Idents to the Servo Skull and call for the Elevator, 2 Snipers will spawn on MALICE
When do I get a psyker staff to bomb the shit out of the muties? All I got access to is the brain pop and a gat
L22 to 24, I think
mutants are actually scary in Heresy+, it's a game of russian roulette if they manage to grab you. are they going to throw you in a safe area, or throw you into the army of their comrades?
What's most scary to me is that Ragers are very quiet.
Now that I think about it, yeah they really are
Pretty sure that's a bug. There's even voice lines referencing how much "noise" the Rager is making
got my first trauma around 8, surge around 13, and void at 17 (had to wait till trust 19 to use it), haven't seen flame yet (i'm 21 now)
The Psyker Voicelines mention how much noise their THOUGHTS make.
Glad to see it's not just me aboard the failed-heresy train. Level 24 and still scared of moving from malice.
Q: Is there any public roadmap or announcement that mentions the release of more cosmetics? The important stuff like maps and missions were announced but can't see anything on the "nice to have" list?
Hello my friends,
I was wondering... I really like to play psyker because of his headpop ability, but I don't really like to uses power sword or the force staffs. Do you think I can make him viable without these?
Thank you
Not really. For a few reasons, but the main one being the quell speed.
The good staffs give you a much much faster quell speed which is super important. Also the AOE damage the staff RMB gives you is seriously nuts. I can pretty much solo lv.2 missions with it. The voidstaff basically gives you the equivalent of (slightly smaller) veteran grenades every 3 seconds if you manage it right which can take out 3-6 enemies at a time.
just put in blood thirst and bull gore and u take almost no dmg.
Swarm incoming- wait Sarge something isn't right. It's snipers, Sarge, hundreds of snipers
Thanks for your answer I will try to get used to it xd
What do i pick to be the most viable ogryn i can be?
Pskyer:
Curios: Stack Toughness
Single target = Head Pops
Multi-Target = RMB staff
That's the entire gameplay loop in a nutshell. You need your staff out 90% of the time, with headpops saved just to refresh your warp charge or bring down a specialist.
Along with the quell speed, the toughness regen perks you get (especially from enemies killed with a warp attack) makes the staff complete undroppable. The Kills you get from the AOE RMB can keep your toughness at 100% if you're smart.
Battlesey has a YT video on it. Probably easiest to do on the mission where you load the ammo into the ship
I don't know what difficulty you're on but on malice that doesn't work, and on heresy it's a great way to lose health for no reason. I use those perks but you can't generate toughness faster than gunners can shoot you on those difficulties. I barely need to use the med station how I play now. Use cover, use choke points and let sharpshooter kill the ranged mobs before you go into the open
Is there a list of enemies with their name somewhere? Some penances and contracts asks me to kill certain type of enemies but i don't even know what they are.
You do you 4 me it's just 2 boring and yes it's working.
Is the grenade gauntlet pilebunker punch useful or is it just a meme
to each their own
idk but dregs are the ones dressed in yellow and scabs are the ones that look like guardsmen
With Deflector can you block sniper shots?
Hello guys!
Just a quick question :3
Soo I have a level 30 vet, but I made a zealot cuz I want top burn heretics with the flamethrower, and the thunder hammer looks cool too, but at what level do you get each? Thank you!
If you read those numbers as years, this somehow describes my youth surprisingly well.
Don't quite remember when I got the flamer but it wasn't too bad of a grind. As for the thunder hammer I only got access to it at lvl 30 don't know if other people have gotten it earlier
How dyou guys go by getting "Just a Flesh wound" penance?
On Overwatch completed before lvl 10, is that POG ?
Flamer is around lvl 10 and the hammer is 25
ooooh nice. I'm currently at 8 for zealot so prolly a bit more. I hope it's at 10 or 15. I would understand that the thunder hammer would be 25/30 since the boltor and plasma gun is more or less around that range as well
oooh! Thanks!
Sad that veteran has no dedicated special melees
didn't seem to work when I tried it the other day
power sword tho, it's just him and psyker iirc

oh right! but like for example only psykers have staves, only zealots have the thunder hammer
But I guess only vets can use the boltor and plasma gun? not sure if other classes have those two
plasma is unique to Veteran, Bolter is accessible both to vet and zealot
Plus I think shovels is vet-only. 🤔
but anyway got off topic hahaha thanks for the info on the flamer + thunderhammer!
wait what shovel is vet only? but i guess that makes sense.
Ogryns have their shovel too, iirc, but it's too big for non-abhuman to pick up.
Ogryns best bois. ❤️
also is there a channel for asking technical questions? I'm getting solid fps with an 17 12th gen and a 3060, but i get a crash once every 2-3 missions. DLSS, antialiasing, rtx off, and threads at 4 instead of 21 🤔
try AMD's thingathing 2.0, i'm on 2060 and it gave me better performance for some weird reason.
you mean FSS? How do you have access to it with a nvidia card?
it's not exclusive to AMD GPUs, my brother in Emphrah, do read tooltip's description.
i might have an ogryn's IQ so alright thanks I'll check XD
ah It's fidelty fx something.
So just this but no dlss, RTX, etc? Performance is fine, just crashing though a a a a
I've disabled RTX, lowered settings to medium, keep the FSS on Balanced and lock me game to 60 fps.
Also having it on SSD helps, per developer recommendations?
yeah i have it on an SSD, and locked to 60 as well. I will try turning on FSS instead. May I ask how much is your worker threads?
worker threads?
What does close range kill mean on a ranged weapon ? Do i like walk up to them and just shoot at closr range ? Or close is it ?
I went from crashing every other game to 0 in 4 hours. Change your GPU heat threshold, mines set to 72C now, before it was crashing every time it hit 74-75C. Try it out. hopefully some of yall get the same result as me. Also make sure worker threads are set correctly in the launcher settings, mine was set to 13 by default when it should've been on 8
Quick question, what are infested enemies?
Stuff that looks plagued. Rotwalker hordes, etc
Anyone got some advice for a brain burst spamming Psyker build? Ik I want Warp Battery and the last one which gives massive cool down on the ult. apart from that I’m not sure
Thank you 🙂
Thank you for the detailed answer.
what is a good way to deal with poxbursters if you cant shoot em from far away?
Pick Kinetic Barrage and you're good to go! You did say Brain Burst spam.
Shove them when they're jumping.
will try, thanks!
still crashing T_T
That’s unfortunate, it worked for me, hopefully others are more lucky with it
Correct
Group for achivement psyker ?
What is the recommended worker threads amount, number of physical cores?
is there much of a point to playing harder difficulties?
Other than receiving more currency and xp, do you have a higher chance of an Emperor's gift?
More currency, more exp, more fun. The chances for Emperor's Gifts are about the same I think. I've seen people say they got some out of difficulty 1 and 2 missions.
difficulties 1-2 quickly get boring
Oh I get that, it just seems underwhelming to play the harder difficulties here when compared to Vermintide 2. Feels like I could just save money or contract currency up, and when there comes an item I want in the shop, I buy it.
You'll have a TON more money if you do win consistently on a higher difficulty
sure, but there is nothing distinguishably different in reward if I play a lower difficulty versus a harder one. I could just simply play lower difficulties with guaranteed success, repeatedly grinding.
ow do you know the correct worker threads? mine was 21 by default, and i lowered it to 4 cuz my friends said his is 4 and no crashe. But we have different specs i think
Google how to check pc cores and change it to whatever number u end up finding for ur pc
ahhhh my gawd it's cores
Time investment I'd say. Playing Malice and above nets you far more weapons from the armory than if you played the lower difficulties.
Well when you are level 20+ you'll be out of money if you are trying to progress your gear for higher difficulties. Doesn't matter much if you are just playing the lower difficulties and can keep using the same gear from the start.
^ literally lmao nothing to chase past the heresy armors
ah my god, so mine says 17-12700H (20 CPU's) in dxdiag. So I should set it to 20 worker threads?
Gear as in weapons and curios..
what exactly does this skill actually do?
Knock back and removes 50% of your peril
oh i meant in heresy and damnation as well. literally nothing rewarding outside of dockets and the cosmetics lmao which if u use curios to for the reward % increase makes a huge difference on like a malice with scripts and a down horde
Has crafting been confirmed for release or within this Beta?
No.
whats the name of your cpu? cuz 20 cores sounds like you either have a ton of virtual ones... or a server cpu installed.
If you run around the main hub, you can see what looks like a smith/crafter so I think crafting will be there on release
I'd rather not rely on the weeklies for anything as they are at the moment lol. either gambling or wasting an entire week of dailies over 1 gun.
That's painful.
it sucks but its the only way to truly maximize at the moment
The loot is murdering this game for me rn
RNGesus loved me last night tho; that stacking proc is fkn insane
If they don't have some amazing trait nope I'd rather have a blue weapon with higher stats.
hmmm not sure. Just says intel core i7 12700H. It's a legion i pro 2022 for eference
oh i agree 100% ive blue rifles with that 47% crit dmg increase that shit is wildddd on a deadshot vet
I believe there will be more ways to get loot at release. Right now we don't have crafting
Open task manager, select the performance tab and when u select CPU it should show how many cores you have
ah fak my god, dxdiag lied to me. In task manager says 14 cores. 20 is logical processors. So I should set worker threads to 14?
Meanwhile I get salvaged stub revolver and salvaged shotgun and Militarum-Issue Lucius Lasgun (which I don't like)
I’m going to sleep, hopefully it works out for you and performs better
yeap thanks for your help! And everyone as well! :3
Such as?
Anyone got an idea on how to do the zealot penance where you gotta kill 50 stunned enemies in 10 seconds? And before you suggest hordes+flamethrower... didn't work X.x
I also believe we would be able to set gun attachments as well? Would love to put a scope on the boltor so I can kill them snipers
but did they suggest ENDLESS hordes lmao
"Endless" lmao
buenas, busco gente para jugar a darktide en steam
This thing is a crowd control legend
would suggest some teamwork involved. 2 pskyers weak-casting force staff to stun but not kill a horde, wait till there's a ton of them bunched up, then flamer.
Is cleave damage relative to regular damage?
So I've been playing Ogryn for a good 20 hours, and I'm using the big shield with the mallet and grenade launcher, but I'm still struggling over the third difficulty. Skill issue or do I need better gear?
Finally got it.
What's your gear's current level?
300ish
Is cleave damage relative to regular damage?
'cuz I found this one, and I don't know if it's a crowd punisher or a training stick. Regardless, I had to buy it because it was funny:
Skill issue probably, that or Ogryn gear is just shit. That's what I have and I've done a couple of Heresy-difficulty missions as Vet.
Do the plasma guns have splash damage for vet? If so I think that would be my call for the make every shot count challenge
my only problem is all the ranged enemies. Ogryn is such a chonker I take every bullet I don't block. I used to main GK in VT2 so melee combat is nothing new
Might be your tearmmates letting you down then? Do you play with randoms or nah?
no friends so yeah. always randoms
Randoms it likely is then.
Is it just me or new players , which haven’t played vermintide 2 does way less dodging that they should
Being new players, they'll do way less of just about everything than they should.
I mean , I commonly see them blocking damage when I litterally dance around room between heretic to heretic
Well, blocking is more consistent if you're not used to dodging, so that's probably why.
Fair
Has anyone got the Cliffhanger Penance for the Psyker yet? Mine isnt going above 8
It's probably your teammates shooting them so you're actually just knocking off corpses. Or you just missed one. Anyway I do it each time an opportunity arises.
Thanks, Do you know if its 20 in one go or 20 in Total over X amount off games?
20 in one go, 20 times.
Actually LOL
It's the same with the Headpop 5 elites in 10 seconds. You need to do it 5 times.
How is friendly fire/self damage on higher difficulties?
I have to ask before push->grenade becomes muscle memory
any tips for getting that vet grenade penance? i know you have to throw it from far away, but no luck
just quick toss it a bit up in the air into a horde
with the right click? just aim up?
I don't believe there is any.
Don't aim, just click
I got it while waiting for an elevator, don't remember the mission
does clicking make it explode faster?
You basically just wait for a horde spawn, and then quick toss with just clicking left click, not holding it, and throw it upwards around 45 degree angle or a bit higher till you get it
I see, I've been holding from far away, trying to get it that way
Holding and aiming tosses the grenade further than just quick tossing with left click
You can test it out in the meatgrinder to try and see what is the best angle and distance
If you aim the throw up, the trajectory display ends in the air
Thats an indication that the grenade will explode before hitting anything, and can be used to gauge the throw
Still took me a few tries
my trick for the long toss penance was to go to the helipad at the end of that one mission where you bring ammo to the helipad. then toss a grenade at a horde that's going to one of the trains where the rest of your team is.
don't suppose anyone has some tips for fighting the assasination targets? going to humbly admit that me and my buds have been getting our arses kicked more times than we'd like to admit on those missions ^^
we "think" there might be a difference between his shield and health but it's hard to judge.
Keep the boss in meele at all times
im only in mid teens but most effective strategy so far is just dropping a med pack at boss's feet and then going to town on him. your group has to have the intelligence to stay at the med pack when you get aggro though. not everyone has the two brain cells required
Maybe Is obvious for you but for me no: what does It mean +1 wounds on courio?
noted!
wounds represent the number of segments on your health bar I believe. the ones which cover corruption when you're downed and the like
anyone can help me with this one?
the more wounds you have, the less of your health is "locked" away when you get picked back up by your team mates
GL with that. Stuff like that shouldn't be in the game. Better off just complaining about it to Fatshark imo. There's a real sadist making some of those penances.
@little glade i never would have thought that. Thank you
a lots of penances shouldnt exist too lol
like the one with the preacher that ask to complete a mission on heresy under 10 min...
Yo guys how do i turn this off
never seen that. if its not from a 3rd party tool, im assuming you hit one of the function keys on the keyboard. total wild guess though
The "momentum" weapon skill tooltip reads "+12.5% toughness on multiple melee hit" is that toughness regen or a flat increase on your max for a short amount of time?
It randomly appeared at some random day xd
yeah it happen randomly when you smash your keyboard
might check the keybindings for something like fps stats etc bound to a key
Lmao i randomly smashed the keyboard and it disappeared
always work lmao
When something dosent work just smash it, thanks for the help
your welcome
Is Rising Conviction or Honour the Martyr better for increasing damage? I'm guessing Rising Conviction for when you're using a chainblade, and Honour the Martyr for something like a combat blade?
Dog pile him
Throw down a medicade and don't let him move, just sprint up to where he comes out and start whaling on him all 4 of you and when the sheild pops and throws you just dive right back in there and keep clobbering, the faster you kill him the less chance to get swarmed by specials and it doesn't give him a chance to use his ranged attacks
can anyone help me understand what I should buy and what I should recycle weapons wise? Is there a vague - when in doubt, power level etc?
Pretty much recycle everything that I don't like or is lower level, been keeping the blues and purple though incase they give crafty bits when that comes out, but money's money for now
oh interesting, good thinking! that actually super helps I'll just stockpile
Why am I LV30,store still only blue and green?wheres purple?
I, too, wonder. What's your current rating though?
ask melk
so pure and innocent 
406
So curious what people think currently playing psyker, tempted with zealot or levelinf a veteran seeing as psyker might not seem so good late game? Was wondering thoughts?
Autogun buff is nice!
Well we're just both unlucky.
I like Psyker but it is definitely a pain to do in Heresy+, since it's got (essentially) 0 scaling.
Ive played exactly one match with Psyker after getting Zealot to 14, and wow did Psyker feel weak. I've seen them in the low 20s when they look like a Sith Lord from Star Wars dishing out lightning right and left, but the start seems pretty feeble. Also, I'm bad.
just be happy ur not a ogryn main 
Is this guy saying the truth or spreading heresy ?
https://youtu.be/oh-YmButZ0Y
Crafting is a feature that has been missing so far in the early access beta and most players don't know that it is coming. Today we talk about when we should expect the crafting update for Darktide and how to prepare by saving all those weapons and curios instead of dismantling them for gold.
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I mean i got tickle lighting fingers but even then I feel like i do hardly anything at rank 3 or higher missions, ey ogryns are best friends
It's coming in full release so in a way, it's true.
Oh okay, just wanted to be certain to not fall victim to misinformation to some guy's clickbait.
22nd December
The pain never ends ;_;
22nd december for what?
Crafting. Supposedly.
I just a want a new boltgun.
Rate my ogryn for gameplay purposes
Ogryn level 5 feat: 20% toughness on single heavy hit or 20% toughness on multi heavy hit. Why would I ever take the multi hit if it restores the same amount?
mississippi alabama vibes
0/10, doesn't look inbred enough.
cuz of blood thirst
tbh, I think it is more likely that we have to use Plassteal we can get from missions, than actually getting materials from weapons. But we will see when it comes out 🤷♂️
Go on
Depends if Darktide will be being able to implement progress carry over to the full release game otherwise all your hoarding is for nothing 😛
The heck? Where did you get this info?
The video @inland harness posted.
Hence the supposedly.
I mean i constantly switch my psyker skills cause yer some just dont work as i would expect
Could always buy high quality loot afterwards and break it down.
He said "in December 2022" not 22. Fucking hell, you scared me.
But yeah, if progress does not carry over. Then back to square one.
multi heavy hit stacks blood thirst better
has anyone else had issues with the Psyker Purgatus staff crashing the game when you try to use charge attack?
Oh yeah, you're right.
I meant toughness restore specifically for the purpose of that level 5 skill
If i play high threat level it will increase drop rate?
oh like no comb or anything? well ogryn has lots of weapons some are for single enemys and some are for groups
Lowkey wish being a tech priest was playable 
No I mean the ability. If hitting multiple people restores 20% toughness and hitting a single person restores 20% toughness, why would I ever take the toughness restore for multiple people?
You mean drop rate as in rate of emperor's gifts? Not really that I've noticed. I play on Heresy baseline on my main and have seen just as many emperor's gifts as on Sedition and Malice on my alts. That is to say, fairly rarely

yo, i'm trying to get 6/7 on vantage point (since i know 7/7 is impossible at this time)
but the last mission i require never showed up for like, the past 3 days or so
what's going on with it? is it on maintenance?
It’s being cycled in and out
got a gold curio earlier
Pretty sure it was only available for like 2 days
no it doesnt work.
then am i getting terrible luck? (woops wrong reply)
More like he got lucky
What do you mean?
I just got lucky
I just noticed why el pepe is called that with their pfp... Im slow today
hittin mulit enemys with smash em good does not count for each enemy u hit.
Do you mean that the multi hit one restores 20% for each dude hit or something?
Gonna try zealot today when i get home, bless me 
Stupid question maybe but does sharpshooter actually relie on headshots?
they both restore the same amount of thoughness. no mater what u do
Okay that makes sense. But holy crap that description is awful
surely that can't be the case
i've been seeking for that mission almost since the launch
From what ive heard it performs alot better if u do headshot, just performs less better if u dont
So if i wanna go full on mashine gun go brrrrrrt its not the right class gotcha:D
I mean yes and no. If you are good at getting them, then using something like the Kantrael MG XII is amazing with it's high damage per shot (I can 1 shot shooters in the chest on Malice Threat and 1 shot headshot Gunners with it).
Of course you gotta get lucky with the roll on the weapon tho
It's the class with the most ammo, so it probably would be best, it's most focused on gunplay, but just going brrt with like an Accatran Recon Lasgun is also very very good on Sharpshooter
If you hit 2 peole with the single one you won't get 20%
Can you change your name at the barber?
is this any good? seems not great
Prob best with ummm ogryn but wouldnt look at me for a font of knowledge 
Sorry guy, no
You can't change your height at the barber either.
thought as much, thanks
or voice
Is the fps lag only during beta?
Damn ;~;
I come from the future, after Nov 30th. Yes, they deliberately lowered the FPS for the beta to piss you off, it's fixed now.
source?
He went to the barber
Wait what, I thought it wasn't in yet
It's in now, as of like 30mins ago
where exactly is he tho
Hey all, where's the new cosmetic vendor? Can't find it
take the first left after you spawn, look for the area near the vendor, it's just a barber, no new cosmetics
When will the next twitch drop skin be available to obtain?
check the campaign on twitch, it was the 27th last I checked
Ok. Is only the lasgun obtainable at the moment?
Yeah
Thanks for the info
Can you Block with a ForceSword?
The animation is unclear whether it's reducing my peril or charging or whatever.
what's the best gun for a sharpshooter? (Thanks for all the help)
Is zealot being staggered by ranged fire after using their ult working as intended?
Finding swapping to headpop mode and back to ranged, or melee, a bit cumbersome control wise
Depends what you want your gun to do, the bolter is a powerful weapon that rewards precision and collateral shots, but you gotta watch the ammo count as the reload is quite long.
Personally of the lasguns I find the (i think its called) kantrael XII best, its semi automatic but the higher damage makes up for not being able to rapid fire like some of the others. Again it rewards you for precision and getting your targets in a nice line to blast through multiple at once.
The recon lasguns i think are more suited for the aggressive sharpshooter, you can mag dump an approaching horde, reload, and mag dump the next wave as well, but you'll face more difficulties with armored enemies and will probably need a AP melee weapon to compensate.
Really its about personal preference, find what you can use well and learn how to make use of it i.e. when to reload, what to target, when to take cover or back off and when to engage in melee. The list i've just done really goes in decesding order of Armour Piercing abilties so take with that what you will.
And slight additional, personally i think the plasma gun is underwhelming. The damage is no anywhere near enough for the long reload time, need to vent and slow fire rate. That and it lacks any sort of ADS function so i find tends to be fairly useless and letting you deal with elites and armoured enemies since you have to be so close that you've got time to get one shot off at most.
I'm not seeing any missions with "ventilation purge" condition for the pass 2 days, is it just me or am I terribly unlucky with the mission choices?
Also I'm not getting any other maps/missions aside from "Chasm Terminus" (Raid, Investigation, Assassination) and "The Torrent" (Assassination),
it it the same for everyone else?
Has anyone changed any keybinds?
think thats just it atm
Missions are limited during the beta, they've said they'll be changing whats avaible soon but not sure when.
Is there a complete breakdown of what every stat does in the game? Like the stat 'defence' or 'wounds' does
Not yet, but wounds basically splits down your health bar into segments, it governs how many times you can be downed before you just instantly die upon running out of helth. So a character with 3 wounds cabe downed twice, then on the 3rd you will just instantly die, whereas a character with 7 wounds can be downed 6 times and die isntantly on the 7th down.
Important point, more wounds DOES NOT increase you health, just splits it up more.
also when a weapon says something like 10% damage ( groaners ), does that literally just mean 10% damage specifically to groaners?
20hrs in and still, the long bomb penance is a penance in the ass...
that seems really bad lol
Yes, you can get ones that are more wide ranging e.g. 20% against flak armour, so you can damage al lenemies with flak armour more
Do a train raid and toss it at the drop when extracting
Best way i found is just whenever a horde shows up, do the just lmb click throw rather than the holdlmb throw. Took me about 3 missions of just spamming it at hordes to get it just by sheer number of grenades
So... how are you supposed to rush through a difficulty 4 mission in 10 minutes, let alone with no wounds left? Took 12 minutes for a difficulty 1 assassination and I skipped enemies best I could with double charges or just gunning them down while moving forward.
Yeah, the most valuable key changes for me was move jump off space bar so it's dodge only and the tagging key to something I can click while shooting. Tagging enemies is op
what is this for?
Zealot's penance
Achievement, I think it's tied to cosmetic as well
It is, it's the "best" chest piece.
Short answers is with great difficulty. Long answer is probably by stacking sprint efficieny and stamina boositng curios and weapons, then figuring out what mission is shortest. Not much of a speedrunner personally but someone will figure it out i'm sure.
God I hate dumb ass artificial challenge...
Anyone know what exactly was changed for Ogryns damage or skills? Other than a 2nd nade, and the bully club I can't tell anything.
Bleed seems to do even less damage, bull rush's does3 total damage in the psych
is there patch notes for recent changes?
Yeah, on steam. or check #🚨service-updates
I wish they'd go into more detail with the patches.
At list give us some emojis or bars....
emojis??
So the game just is poorly optimized with lower fps and lower graphics than Crysis?
It doesn't need to be wildly advance.
But what does "Ogryn balance pass and grenade amounts adjusted." mean, other than more grenades.
Level 30 and have plenty of time on ogy and I can't tell anything yet.
But Ogryn's descriptions didn't even change from what I can recall lol
Bled dmg resistance either doesn't work, or just not in the grinder.
Bleed just appears to do even less damage initially and then tapper off even lower
Oh that's a good shout. I'm finding G for psyker a bit annoying too, but not sure what to do about that
They didn't give us another box they just put another grenade in the box we already throw /s
Haha, thats true lol
How is zelot supposed to work? It feels like it should work like zelot in Vermintide from its description but like...since you cant regen temp health that doesnt realy work
I imagine my oggie trying to mush an extra grenade in the box so it hits harder
Think of toughness like temp health, and it's close
What if Ogryn grenades did ok damage, and knockback, but you could pick them up repeatedly
That's the trick, it doesn't! Zealot feels gimped until you get an eviserator
DRG's Driller throwing axes lol
If a box misses, it should be able to be picked up by you or your team
what does the eviserator change?
Maybe, I just wish he could regen them easier or just ask for them with a voice thing.
It's incredibly powerful compared to the rest of the kit
Can someone explain to me what all the symbols in the melee weapon's combo stuff mean? There's a 3 pointed arrow, a star, a sword slice, a fist and a shield that I've seen so far. The fist is easy, it's a punch/slap, the shield is a parry, I don't know what the others are exactly.
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Anyone notice that warpfire from Purgatus Force Staffs doesn't count as Warp based attack for the Feat Warp Absorption (replenish 10% Toughness when you kill an enemy with a warp attack.)
I don't seem to get the Toughness from kills
Bug report it. Only you can report the heresy you see to the inquisition.
press V in inventory screen on that weapon it will have full descriptions of the icons.
The in game descriptions are kinda shit though.
I'm surprised this sort of thing wasn't covered in the tutorial
Anyone else unable to access the chat or voice systems at all? I figured they just weren't turned on but seems like other people are talking/text chatting and I can't see or hear any of it.
By default voice is turned off I believe, innit?
At least it was for me
I've turned it on but even then I literally cannot access text caht at all either. like I hit enter to open the chat menu and nothing comes up, and friends have said they've been using the text chat in games i'm in and i literally cannot see it.
the drop?
I'd bug report it, that's super unusual
Do Auras stack? So like if i have 2 zealots do we get 14% toughness damage reduction?
So in the mission where you get the ammo from the trains, the dorr you open to get to the two trains spawns a lot of enemies after you open the bridge
if i get it now do i get acces to the beta?
Will I still have access to the beta if I pre-order now?
All pre-orders will have access to the beta until it ends, so long as the game was purchased before the close of the beta.
I got this on an assassination mission (lowest difficulty)
stood away from the boss+teammates mobbing him and lobbed nades upward in their direction when smallfry started spawning
my veteran was level 6
before update got instant crush after try to join the hub, even prolog don't work. its fixed or not? can check my own today
I don't get what's the point of autoguns, the "bump" isn't noticeable.
The only non-laughable autoguns are the braced versions, but you get worse damage output than you have with a bolter, with less long-range capability, while also being more ammo hungry. And you bounce off carapace armor.
The "headhunter" autoguns all do less alpha dmg and less DPS than Lasguns, especially the MG XII. So they're worse for headhunting. They also have less ammo, and worse sights.
The infantry autoguns are a mix of the worst properties of the headhunter and braced ones.
Or is there supposed to be a decent one? What's their role? 😅
Either autoguns are too bad or lasguns are too good.
Don't hold left click or right click. Stand far enough away and left click once, if you get the trajectory right then you're good. Don't put power behind it.
Are you judging by the bars? Because the bars are just wildly incorrect
Nope
No he's not wrong the autoguns are objectively worse at things than the other weapons. Anything they do they are just wildly outclassed on by the other weapon options.
I think the point of autoguns is to pair them with traits that favor rapid fire
I'm judging by testing all the guns I could get my hands on, almost lvl 30 now
I have a problem. I finally got a thunder hammer and using it in the meatgrinder isn't producing the results I'm looking for. I can't tell how much damage it does because I'm one shotting the highest health non boss enemy in the game
Autogun ammo is too low imo tho
That's pure copium bro 😄
Also Recon Lasgun would benefit more from any of those.
Even then why would you bother, they do less damage than the lasguns and the recon lasguns has a much higher firerate, better ammo capacity, better damage, better accuracy, better reload speed etc
is there any autogun that compares favorably to a recon lasgun
Not that i've seen, not unless you're comparing a white tier to a like purple tier.
When do psykers get the goddamn flamethrower staff?
It's definitely hard if you're in random groups. I took advantage of a kill mission during the boss fight just watching for a horde spawn so I could toss my nade. One key thing to keep in mind is if you do a quick left click, you quick toss your grenade so if you aim it up in a high enough arc, it will explode before it hits the ground. Don't hold down the button. You can practice in the practice room to get an idea of distance and angle.
20s
recon las does pretty badly against armour doesn't it? autoguns tend to be better in an overall sense (plus braced autoguns are just based to fire)
Autogun damage vs armor is atrocious on maclie and above, the recon at least it precise enough that you can nail a weakspot repeatedly to deal with the armour.
top tip for autoguns is to rarely bother firing them with ADS, hipfire's accurate enough
i've been doing fine with them on malice just firing into the chests of armoured guys with the braced autogun, but standard works just fine if a little low-ammo
Should I buy a better version of a green weapon or save my money and hope a blue shows up?
Tried this, guess my problem really is, that I don't have the right situation for it, probably too much bad luck
Perhap, but even then why would you take that rather than just an mgXII or a bolter which will acheive the same things with better ammo efficiency and better damage?
Save it unless it's a huge upgrade
bolter takes ages to reset after the first shot, it's godawful at suppression
Thanks. Just worried about waiting for something that never shows
2nd shot still goes pretty much straight, and in a pinch you can just mag dump to much greater effect than an autogun.
autoguns give you something that does good damage on unarmored and armoured and is capable of suppressing enemies (now that they've fixed that feature lol)
How on earth can I complete this? I don't see this map anywhere, and the game won't let me replace the task...
Very good for what? It's both worse alpha dmg and worse DPS than the MG XII (high damage, high capacity) lasgun. I got an epic Vraks as a Gift from the Emperor, switched back to a 80 power levels lower green MG XII, as it was much better. 😂
After quite a bit of testing.
When trinkets start showing up in the store you'll go broke fast
I like running bolter if I've got another ss running lasgun and I'm running camo
ah right. Thanks again
I had the same thing, it's more luck than skill, but like the other guy said, try some throws in the Psykhanium and after that it'll come in time, just gotta have some luck with it
Reroll it, maps not in because it was causing problems
i stuck increased ordo gains on all my trinkets 
I can't reroll it 🥲
rest in peace
I see what you're saying but I just can't get round the fact that everything the autogun does is done better by other weapons. The autogun just does most things at a meh level which for me jsut isn't enough to justifiy taking it. Everytime i've used an autogun i've had a situation where i've thought "damn i wish i brought X weapon instead", i've never been in a situation where i've though "damn wish i'd brought an autogun instead"
Can we change voicss at the chirugeon?
i've been finding the autogun to be great tbh it's not excelling in any way but it also doesn't fall short in any way
No, nor height, no backround no name
alpha dmg = damage per shot
I did, the tips they gave to try it in a assassination mission sounds quite good tbh, guess I will try this. Just have a bad feeling to not really participate, because bully them with a chainsword really helps, unlike lasgun pew pew from afar
vraks autogun is more accurate than you'd think especially when hipfired
can increased sprint speed roll on any weapon
MGxii ismuch more of a DMR than any of the autoguns.
Well good luck, I got it by throwing it over a chasm at a horde waiting on the other end. Just gotta hope teammates let you try your thing
does anyone have a good tip on how to complete the long bomb penance?
crouching helps too, iirc
crouching for acc buff is a bit weird, some guns actually get worse when crouched
What does the RMB on BB actually do?
Stand far away, don't put power behind your throw, just left click once and get the trajectory right. It needs a bit of luck too so you can get the throw right
the way I did it, stand 40m away from a horde, aim the grenade ~8x normal-enemy-height
also you can test it out in the psykanium
RMB on BB pre-charges it without needing a target so you can just left click once it's full to pop (It's higher peril cost though)
i just follow the grenade targeting tracer to its very end and have a good throw. If you didn't know, the fuse is 2 seconds and resets back to 2 seconds if it hits a surface
oh wait you can actually make the throw lighter?
the longer you hold down left click the harder the throw iirc; works for ammo cans too
did we got new maps in the end or that update is wack?
I don't suppose there's a way to recolor the crosshairs? I keep losing them in the background/enemy bodies
Lol autoguns got buffed in today's patch
that mission you have to wait at the lift for and have a bridge before you, aim just under the ceiling as the horde is charging over the bridge and you should get it after you spam a few
Yes, depending on how long you hold left click, you will throw with less force.
So when looking at a horde, stand a certain distance from it and aim upward. If you get the trajectory right, then the grenade should explode just before it reaches the enemies/the ground.
You can practice the throw in the Psykhanium, or get good at it in runs themselves, I just got lucky at some point cause I was trying it with pretty much every horde.
thanks people
Heavy Stubber and large grenade launcher, grenade glove, and bulwark shield
Not sure on psyker
Inventory weapons are bound to the class or not ?
probably heavy stubber for ogryn, the rest are unlocked relatively early
to character
How does raging bull work exactly, is it just you hit and based on the amount of enemies you hit your next hit deals more?
What is the best way to get all armor on Veteran?

Has anyone on the psyker successfully done warp battery? I've been trying to do it and been timing myself and pretty sure its bugged. Only thinking is its only do able when you have the feat that increases your max warp charges?
What does the Rosette do you unlock at lvl 30?
Look at the penances and then see what you can do, there is no 1 way, they all have their own requirements to achieve @sick falcon
What do you mean best way. there's only one way. do the thing it requires you to do
Tips for every requires.
Scroll a bit back and I put some tips for the Long Bomb challenge, but the others I don't have any personal tips for
is vigil station oblivium not available yet? i got a contract for the mission
I got most of the veteran challenges for the helmet on Difficulty 3 with an XIII Lasgun. If the map with the bridge is still in, it’s the best place for the grenade challenge. While you wait for the elevator you just chuck nades as far as you can with only tapping left click
ive been testing grenades in the psychanicum, if you mark an area 24ish meters away and aim until their heads are at the bottom of the screen you can pretty reliably get it to blow up on them if you do a quick tap
apparently if you have a level 12 zealot you can get the 100% accuracy challenge as it doesn't specify sharpshoooter
What was tuned in Veterans traits? Can't find any info on it. What changed about bleeding?
grenade bleed stacks
it got changed from 2 to 8 didnt it
Holy jeez 8 stacks per nade?
Is there some sort of level grouping system? I reached level 30 recently, and all my games after that have been with people at level 30, or close to it
Previously I would get all sorts of people on malice, ranging from literal level 4s to 20+
Tysm!! I'll need to see in game if Demolition Team is listed as "elites killed in coherency" instead of just the "enemies killed in coherency".
it's just enemies, but im not sure if it actually triggers on all enemies
being such a low number you'd hope so
Damn they nerfed veteran some more lol, nerf train all aboard
did zealot receive any change, or at least do the feats work now
Yo i wanna try to do a challenge anyone wanna help ?
do you know if its enemies in range of coherency or just while youre affected by coherence
the toughness regen feat on the first tree is fixed but now needs 3 enemies to be around you, think that was the biggest change of the bunch.
man that's one useless fix, thanks anyway
Veteran is still fine lol. It makes sense, since grenades are getting 8x bleed stacks now to make it one free grenade every 60s.
makes grenade pickups more valuable too
So did all the autoguns get a bump up in damage
and did some of them get more of a "bump up"
At least Mio's wheezing hasn't been nerfed
Oh I see now that's a specific type of autogun, my dumbself didn't understand. Thanks. @polar sandal
Where is the barber shop for appearance change at?
Why do my dodges not regen until I stop swinging? I can dodge a bunch If I'm just standing there but once I start swinging after 6 or so dodge with catachan sword I just cant dodge
anyone know what the lucius pattern mk 1/2/3 differences are?
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left side, opposite of shop.
Sadly can't change height or voice.
oh really? does it have comparable charge time and damage to the 1? I generally like the idea of the lucius, but in practice ive found every other lasgun pattern more useful
Since i'm already here I might as well ask, in VT2 I rebound my dodge only to just shift and my jump to spacebar. Now that shift is occupied with sprint what is everyone else using for their dodge button? I'm thinking of just using my left alt key for jump but im unsure.
What other balance changes were made?
4th or 5th mouse button for me 🙂
yeah, just got an accatran recon, and that thing is amazing. half the ammo usage as other lasguns, so it has just as good efficiency, and does amazing damage and suppression. i love my bayonet but cant justify the loss in combat effectiveness from the slower shots/weaker uncharged shots/worse ammo efficiency of the lucius.
And with a shiny new chainsword, i can't really pretend that the bayonet is ever a good idea anymore
The adjustments and additives to the Infantry lasguns feels really nice..
Hey all, how the hell do I acquire a purity seal? I'm 26 and wasn't sure if it's something you do or just random
What changes did they do to lasers?
@chrome ridge unfortunately I have the muscle memory for the crouch slide on a mouse button and my special action on the other mouse button. Have that memorized from playing dishonored way too much. I'll probably try out left alt and see if it works.
Wh-
does this apply to all melee attacks or just same target attacks?
I could have swore I saw something in the patch notes that they talked about Infantry lasguns but I guess I am smoking something lmao.
infantry autoguns
Potentially a dumb question but, how do I know if the enemies are Dregs? Trying to finish my last contract and I'm a bit confused
rumbler or grenadier gauntlet?
Gauntlet easily
Is there any way to bind several keys on one action? I'm used to reload on R, but it is uncomfortable to use for quell on Psyker, so I use extra mouse button for that.
Use shift for sprint and dodge also on shift. U can only sprint with W and can only dodge with A, S and D so they both work on shift
Wrack and Ruin
Killing an Elite or Specialist with Brain Burst applies 2 Stacks of Soulblaze to all enemies
within 3 meters of target
what were the changes to zealot? they were pretty vague in the patch notes
What does "Soulblaze" mean?
thoughts on adding tag to left click?
would be really annoying for teammates I think, not sure
I'm a bit confused about hate on mouse wheel tag, is it unreliable or hard to use?
For Long Bomb Achievement does the difficulty matter ?
mine is, i end up swapping weapons by accident because its, you know, a wheel
What about binding it on mouse wheel roll? wheel weapon selection is messy anyway
might be worth doing actually,
Is there any indicator if an enemy is bleeding?
Blood is droping out of them like from fountain
I see
Go on meatgrinder
Fun fact when as a psycher you use force push with branding waepon out you apply bleed on all afected targets
Can't login after the 1.0.7 upgrade..
what does "Additional Psyker gameplay adjustments" mean actually
That ogryn femboy don't dissaper after queel
Any Pyro. . .I mean Psykers still crashing to desktop using the Purgator (fire) staff?
Wrong place.
No, it makes tagging anything that isn't an enemy awkward because you attack every time
I just use Q and switch weapon switch to Z. Works fine.
Or you could bind weapon switch to 1 because why the f not you are only switching between two weapons anyway
tips for playing shield ogryn
Hold shield, stand in front of the midgets
Friendly reminder that psykers can use their class ability to purge their perils even in the middle of the animation of the perils explosion
@normal tendon RIP
Guess I’ll just not bother helping people then
Block things like Reapers Snipers, and Gunners, but you’re reliant on your team at the end of the day, it helps a lot to have comms and coordinate at 4/5. You’re a force multiplier, you can’t carry. Also bring grenade gauntlet to help snipe the specials and elites in the back when you can, and stunlock Ogryns.
Don't play it unless you have dependable team mates, since you're almost 100% reliant on everybody else doing their job right
If you hold block and advanced towards entrenched ranged enemies they rarely shoot at you and you can get in melee range and they will come out of cover and you or your team can clean them up
You’re there to stunlock and hold back hordes, and block the more extreme ranged enemies and firing lines, your team does need to take advantage of that though basically
anyone able to explain deadeye challenge to me? I feel like I'm doing it right but its not counting it
Hey guys, anyone want to party up and help me get the Cliffhanger Penance? Need to push people off the start of the bridge in the Chasm mission. Can take turns pulling it off. Cheers.
not sure if its obvious but do the class unique auras stack or nah
They do not
what does having a extra wound do?
It makes corruption from being downed slower
What is "cleave"?
what gun would be the best for Deadeye penance? or how does it work in general
nvm
How many enemies you can chop through before your weapon gets stopped, it also dictates if you can slice through bigger enemies
reload speed of a staff is just quelling?
Ya know, I saw that on something yesterday. I have no idea where I put the bullets in my stave but I'm excited to find out.
I mean, I do need it, so I wouldn't mind helping, I need those gloves!
What is the point of the Revolver exactly?
I just don't see what exactly does it do that any other gun cannot do better.
Also need that penance, am down
Elite buster, mini psyker if you will
Yeah but the bolter does the same and has 2x the ammo, is it just the speed at which u can whip it out?
The game desperately needs a wiki
what's a good feat setup for a zealot? I'm still trying to find a thunder hammer
depends if you crit/bleed or not, i'd say 332123 if you play noncrits
if u crit 213121
You can take out the revolver instantly and snapshot elites and specials as a veteran. It also staggers enemies so you can cancel a specials attack almost instantly if you don’t just one shot it. Also you can pretend you’re a cowboy
ill try a few runs with it, im on zealot
maybe it goes hard with my knife bleed build
I don't think I ever crit
Revolver also has incredibly busted dodge range if you haven’t tried it
Does anyone here know what "Impact" does for the Zealot's "Punishment" Favor?
When playing the Zealot, it is great for quickly removing high threat targets
like rangers just out of reach when your ult is down, or snipers/grenadiers at range when your teammates are pre-occupied
also, if you have some berserkers running at you, you can jump back and fire a few round into them to kill them fairly easily/safely
was there a repair mission added?
Nope, so we're waiting for now you can complete the other penances if you can
is this good for vet?
damn ty
Personally I don’t like any helbore lasguns without the reduced charge rate mod. It feels so slow normally and the charge rate on that gun stat is kinda low too
Did they buff chainswords from the beta? They were kind of disappointing on how bad they felt to use against regular mobs
At least the evicerator feels pretty sweet now
The last two mission types are not in the game quite yet, right?
Just missing repair, sitting at 6/7 for my hat 😭
One of them was but it was removed not sure when, there’s one more which we haven’t gotten yet ever
That LOOKS sickening.
Also in case it hasn't been posted or hasn't been posted in a while and folks were wondering, level 30 in the meat grinder unlocks ||specials||
What's the other one besides repair? I forget
has anyone managed to do warp battery on malice?
I think disruption?
This makes me sad. This is the first Boltgun I've ever seen show up in the shop for me, but it's bar is lower than my current Las, lmao. Is it worth it still?
When does Bolt weapons start to appear?
stats are relative to the weapon type, so it's still gonna be doing a shit ton more damage than the las per shot
bolt gun will 1 shot most things but just beware of ammo and recoil
That's all fair. I suppose I'll grab it and test it out. Not like Im doing a 3+ atm anyway
Is the Armory bugged for an anyone else? can't scroll or buy anything, and all the items are flashing.
Asking again in case there are new people in chat:
Does anyone here know what "Impact" does for the Zealot's "Punishment" Favor?
heavy swords didn't get touched did they? cus this is tempting
Question does the lvl. 30 feat of setting enemies on fire with the ult. Work with the flame staff?
For the pysker
PSA for the standard requisition vendor? You can SCROLL through his selection. He has like two and a half pages worth of items. I keep seeing people at the very top of the menu selection. The scroll bar is very non-obvious and the menu doesn't really give you a visual cue that's easily seen for this.
Don't be like me and think he only has like five items.
Usually the highest rarity items are at the top so your not typically missing much but still
What does +1 wound(s) on a curio mean?
Anyone have any luck with the suicide bomb psyker penance? I thought it would be hard, and then it's been even harder in practice.
What are monstrosities? Things like the hound, charger and explodey boy or things like the plague ogryn?
means you can go down an extra time instead of dying
plague ogyrn and beast of nurgle are monstrosities including assassination bosses
Thanks Joe. do you get more of them the higher difficulty?
add another bar to your health bar so you can get downed x amount of time based on x number of wound. note it does not add hp points
I think they have a higher chance, but endless horde is what really increases it. I got two in a mission once plus the assassination target.
Crikey ok thanks Eternal Reward
So from my understanding the Boltgun and Plasma Gun are really only good for Elites/Specialists/Monstrosities? If I want horde control I should either get a good cleaving melee or a different gun like an Autogun?
Which feat for a lvl 15 Veteran?
Bolter is decent for hordes just because the stagger but yeah it’s not the best choice.
Does Bio-optic targeting even do anything?
best anti horde melee weapon for veteran in people's opinions?
ripper gun is best for hoardes
They didn’t add a repair mission with the patch did they?…
It’s good but we’re talking about normal human weapons I assume here
Would having higher wounds help when picking up grimoires? 
Man why is it that Melk never ever has anything good
what is the "Total Bonus" in the score screen? Just got like 2.5k total bonus from a Malice mission and have no idea why
Bio-Optics from my understanding allows your teammates to see the highlighted enemies you see
I'd assume this also works with the lvl 30 feat of being able to see Ogryns as well, but I'm unsure if the feat replaces it with Ogryns or you just see everything now except normal poxwalkers
ogryn is human, don't be mean 
No, they’re big human. Not boring normal small human.
Is there a way to increase scroll speed in the ui's?
Scroll faster 🤡 (I'm sorry I don't know)
check the presence of other apps that can interfere with scroll speed. In my case I had Mouse without borders and other apps that interact with the mouse, that mess with the game.
How do I get more purples to drop? All my emperor gifts are white, and they are super sparce I am using my level 30 vet even the random gift things are always white
luck of the draw man. ive gotten only white gear while my freinds gets purple items.
Nah it’s a skill issue, FS can tell if you’re a real gamer and they reward you
LIL help with mission.. what are disruption mission ? i did just 1 on my ogryn but i need it also on the veteran.. was it the mission where u go outside ?
So, I am confused with Psyker staves, why do I sometimes instantly explode from going above 100 Peril with them?
Doesn't a psyker randomly explode no matter how they get to 100%+ Peril?
^ Afaik, you'll always explode if you hit 100% and cast again with anything, right? (ditto with plasma gun)
You will explode, but if you usually have a few seconds to press F to stop it
Ohh, the delay is inconsistent? Hmm. Can you reproduce it in the Meatgrinder with specific stave attacks?
I think it's when you go above 100% to a certain threshold, e.g 120% or smth
You explode if you start an ability at 100%
So if you click to brain burst or use staff at 100% you blow. At 99% you live, and are at 100%
So with a staff that constantly racks up Peril, for example a flame staff, you risk exploding extremely quickly?
Sure. Just get in the habit of recovering down to 95% or such before you use it again and you'll be fine
IME yes, ditto with the RMB on BB (charging without a target)
I can't reproduce it by trying to go super high in the Psykhanium, get the long animation even if I start the channel at 100 and then finish with Trauma Force staff . :/
Yeah, I'm only aware of one animation for when you explode yourself
I mean the only thing I can truly say is Brain Better, but that's me being silly because I'm not sure, I haven't actually used Psyker yet. Are they fun later on?
I'll try to reproduce it when I'm home later, very curious what's going on
I enjoy it a lot, I just don't super like having a small chance to instantly down from doing what I'd consider an advanced tactic of venting after going far above 100 peril intentially
It's very straightforward. End an ability at 100%, you live. Start an ability at 100%, you die.
I've seen some really good psykers in Malice 3, great CC available on multiple staves. They do need some screening though, as teammates go
how do you guys go about farming items past lvl 30?
Just wondering, is there (or going to be) like an offline mode, for the people like me with bad internet?
There is no hidden charge that goes over 100%. No matter what ability takes you to 100%, the result is the same: A few seconds of cool down til you drop below 100% and can use an ability again
I’ve had scenarios where i charge the force staff when at 90%, use it, and i get the peril overload animation, and then I also just immediately blow up sometimes
If you are charging right click
You're not allowed to lmb if you're at 100, but, yeah, sometimes you just don't get the proper animation and just instantly explode with no time to ult to vent
what a good map to do cliffhanger on?
Left clicking while at 100% will nuke you
I don’t left click at 100%
torrent probs
how are you ment to get long bomb?? iv tired so many ways to even running into a group look up high and have the dam frag land on my feet to kill the group.
Why is bleeding completely worthless?
anyone interested in cliffhanger? we need 1 more
I feel like enemies are shooting me even more now while I'm in melee than before with this patch. Anyone else?
What am I missing? I feel like I've played everything multiple times.
missing repair mission
Is that the surface map?
Hello',
Zealot: Increased bonus from “impact on multiple hit” talent to 30% per stack, increased max stacks to 5 for a totalt max bonus of 150%. (was 10% and max 3 stacks).
It's 30% of what ? In my localized game, it's it just written 30% but not which stat or bonus.
currently not in the game
Unfortunate
On the maps where you have to wait for an elevator. Stand as far back as you can and toss it at incoming hordes, just tap left click, don’t hold it and aim up
There's 2 missions from cbt that were repair missions, though tomorrow we might get one of em
Power Matrix is the old coolant cell mission, no?
I was thinking of the forge one as well as the coolant one, not sure of exact designations
still only 5 mission types available?
What level do you need to be in order to do damnation ?
Assuming but I do hope to get my Helmet so I can complete my fashion sense for the Emperor
I'm not a fan of the goggles helmet for veteran later on
Obviously max (30) But you'll need a great set up of weapons and trinkets to fully maximise your potential.
Is it possible to beat a heresy mission in 10 minutes/has anyone ever done it?
i feel dumb, where can I find the chiguegron? i been running around the morningstar for over five minutes. if its the vendor behidn the armory exchange, nothing's popping up for me and i already restarted too
I'm sure some absolute madman's done it, but seeing as it took me 12 minutes to rush through the Torrent assassination on sedition difficulty while continuously moving and skipping enemies occasionally, it seems very difficult
no option to press E and no dialogue pops up, is there a level requirement? my char's lvl is 12
Wonder who decided it's a good idea to make rushing a high difficulty while also handicapped a penance.. wonder if they were tested and if the devs have done them.
Question - do players benefit from their own auras? And do they benefit from their own auras improvements?
What in the blazes is this that I hear about ogryn femboys?
alright. once i get to level 30. i wanna go for a tanky Ogryn kinda build.
any best Ogryn builds currently?
should i choose lynchpin lvl 5 feat for ogryn
I've heard 1,3,1,1,1,1
is it just me or does Melk's store change more often than the timer?
I'm sure I've had 3 different sets of items buyable
definately at least 2, because i had a mastercrafted item available earlier and now there isn't one
I really am not seeing any button prompts at all through out the entire mourningstar for the barber, I checked everywhere. the two npcs across from the armory, etc. nothing pops up.
is 1 2 and 3 from top to bottom or from bottom to top?
It's a side-room along the wall, similar to going to the Meatgrinder or the Inquisitor during the prologue.
is it possible to get anything above blue rarity in the hourly rng store? level 30 on one character, 15 on another and have never see anything better yet. item levels up to 430 but same rarity
You know, in the beginning, I thought I'd be using the Ripper alot. And while I do find it fun, I feel like that the Kickback is a better overall pick until you get the grenade Launcher.
Do you get higher level weapons if you have higher items level equiped/ in inventory or power level in the shops depends on your trust level ?
I have ran everywhere and checked along the walls. i've seen to the guy with the barber seats in the store, no button prompt. i've checked the sides across the armory in all direction,no button prompts except for sire melk's store
From where you spawn, run toward the map and turn left like going to the store. It'll be on your left, through a door with gothic writing above it.
Yeah, no button prompts appear for the guy inside. Is there a level requirement or something?
Odd, there may be? I only tried it on my level 30.
Which currio effects stack and which do not?
I think the +2 Toughness ones do not, but I am not sure about any other effects.
This is two weeks worth of currencies. Is it worth it do you think?
My character is level 12, and the patch did not specify fi there was a level requirement or not. it's been pretty frustrating
dem bars
the perks are pretty bad
At least you know where it is now! Can check as you level up.
Any tip on complete orgyn‘s challenge gone bowling?
Thats what I was worried about. I haven't seen what else plasma guns could have
But it doesn't even tell me what level it requires like how sire melk let you know you need to be level 11. I also get no button prompt from the barber.
For two weeks of currency I'd want something other than a plasma gun, it's so slow and heavy. Really limits your ranged options. But that's personal opinion, you may like it.
Alright, thanks. Right now I'm preferring the revolver but it's got ammo issues on dif4
Yeah, my dream is a bolter honestly. Going to save until that perfect match shows up, Emperor willing.
unless we get fed currency at some point, spending those before we get to max power level seems like trolling
Can anyone explain me what this thing does, please ? 🙂
I think the english translation must be "Disruptive ShockWave" something like that
Speaking of which, do we know if power goes up after hitting level 30 then like in V2?
Why not switch language to english?
I don't know how to (I'm french, btw, so I don't want to redownload the game)
first result on google 😉
https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us/articles/360021424693--PC-How-to-Change-Your-Language-in-Vermintide-2-or-Darktide
btw, regarding the cpu/gpu bottlenecks, this means im far more gpu bound right?? (not great when it comes to hardware xD) (also, guess SLI is kinda not a thing with darktide 😅 ) @paper coral
Does anyone else have issues where enemies can shoot you even though you are crouched behind cover? Like there's definite places on the maps that are designed for you to be able to run and crouch behind to get cover but your hitbox is just poking up enough to be hittable by the enemy.
@paper coral ☝️
And I play a shorter than average Veteran atm.
Yes, but only with my ogryn 😆
Thats a good plan
Also the rapidfire las on Vet is amazing and worth getting if its got a great set of perks with it
I just saw a pretty toxic gamplay style. Guy was just staying at the beginning of the zone so mutants would spawn on him. He did it nearly the entire time we were clearing the map and then he DCd. He's progressing his weeklies but hurting the entire team in the process.
is there a way
Recommended weapon and strat for make every shot count? Thinking shotgun or revolver but not sure about individual pellets mattering on if they hit or not
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003354763045392449/1044695502400278578/retarded.webm so what do we do when we get bombed on an elevator
why are you guys standing right at the elevator door shooting it - you can stand back and then push the boomer away rather than shooting it
Anyone know what level the Ogryn HMG begins appearing in the store?
3 were at the back of the elevator and still took damage
it's not about avoiding the damage, it's about not having it immediately detonate right at the door. You need to push it for it to get bumped away before you blow it up.
@hidden burrow The psyker could've pushed him, nobody went for a stagger/push
everyone was shooting it lol
it threw itself at the door and detonated before it even entered push range before the doors opened though? if you look where it jumped
The psyker gets a ranged push
so have a psyker on your squad and be ready to push or its just screwed
also why didn't your psyker just headpop it from a distance before the elevator arrived lol
Also only 1 person shot, so killing him early was impossible
im pretty sure the gate interferes with LoS
It doesn't. I pop stuff going up elevators to keep my charges.
For the grimoires contracts do you get credit if anyone in your fireteam has one at mission's end or is it only if you have it?
For both scriptures and grimoires it can be anyone on your team
Oh awesome, thank you!
lacerate
how do i increase my gear score past 420 ?
Wait for crafting or buy stuff from the armory/daily vendor
dumb question, I can't find the barber in the hub. Where is he from the entrance?
From spawn, run towards the map and take a left like you're heading to the shop. It'll be on your left through a door with gothic writing above.
ok, thank you
can anyone explain to me what extra wounds do?
you can be downed more times before being killed
The segmented health bars, you can stack up more to be resistant to permanent damage only healed by a medicaid station
Gonna experiment with shotgun for make every shot count and if I am noticing its not triggering with what should be completion I will just go for revolver or plasma gun once I unlock it because Ive heard of a few people whove done it with that
ah gotcha
2 wounds means 1 down = 50% permanent damage
4 wounds means 1 down = 25% permanent damage
etc
pre-patch, the way to do this was to use the flamethrower on zealot, as the penance wasn't tied to a specific class in the coding. Not sure if it's been patched. Flamethrower shots count as a 'hit' even if they don't hit anything so just ending a map on zero ammo with flamethrower was enough
for the make every shot count penance does it count if u hit a ogryn shield? or does it register as a miss
Is there a way to make missions drop items more often?
pray to the god emperor, (no its RNG)
I imagine it technically would be a hit, even if it does no damage, but yea it could be nulled by the shield, I suppose just try not to fuck with bulwarks
hey does anyone know if Benediction stack if you have 2 zealots in the group ?
anybody did some testing what counts as a warp attack as a psyker? Does the Force sword do warp damage?
Hello, I have a question for Ogryn players about two Penances "Gone Bowling" and "Don't Stop Me Now" It seems to me mine might be stuck the number values have not changed in days, I have doubled my bull rush distance and it stays at 24 and I have ran through massive hordes and it says at 45 enemies. I was wondering if anyone has ran into this or know exactly how it calculated? I was thinking I might have to make another Ogryn to try and complete them.
Hello. I am playing a Zealot and got to lvl 5. What Feat should I take first? I heard the Enemies within is bugged
I believe it's been fixed with the most recent patch. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
What is the level 15 veteran, Threshold 3 reward?
Nothing? :S
purify in blood
Thank you.
Is there any clarification on how Emperor's Gift works?
I got a friend who is raining in gifts, getting a lot of weapons in different rarities, while I've only gotten very few common? Is there any conditions to be met or something?
Do we know what error code is what yet? 2007?
rng is rng
I'm curious for the same, because it seems very arbitrary compared to the XP + grimoire + tome system of Vermintide
I'd love to know how we can increase the "loot bar" like we can in Vermintide 1/2
For sharpshooters vantage point penance I'm at 6/7 of mission types, are there not enough mission types avalible yet to complete the penance?
same and i've done them all, I think we're missing one from the next map / mission rollout
how do i do the ogryn penance where i need to travel 70 meters with my ult? i already have the last trait where i go further
Is this a bug or random chance that you get less options in armory?
Heresy + best bet with endless hordes … charge then kill elites left right left right charge again
what is the fastest mission for leveling?
non boss missions that dont have endless horde modifier. Any mission you can reliably complete
sweet
Assassination / menace
Is it just some missions or is it just a bad day for darktide for the horrible lag
Assassination is the fastest?
If you're playing with friends, maybe, but Bosses are quite tough for pugs on difficulty 3 or higher, expect to fail it a lot
Personally to me yes a quick assasination / raid is quick and easy …. But I mean I do not time my stuff and have 43 hours with 1 level left to 30 due to constant disconnects.
Is there a source that tells me the level at which you unlock weapons for each class?
sweet. i just hit level 8
Level 13 I think you get all weapons…. Don’t quote me
That's definitely not true. Friends of mine didn't get the Locke Bolter until around 24
It’s all rng is the main issue
you def dont get the bolter at level 13, rng or not. The weapon unlock levels seems to be around 12/18/24
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890127609 This is like 85% accurate
I don't really like how you can only get cosmetics by doing penaces. maybne make something similair with the armory but instead let the mechanicus be the cosmetic seller or maybe some else
Vermintide did the same thing so it’s Meh fat shark doing what fat shark do at this point though it is agreed the penance are anti team friendly
idk what there plans are for cosmetics but i think it's best if they did that. there some achievements that are extremely hard or just confusing for players to get or at least from what i've heard. i took a look into it and ye i do understand where they come from
Paid and penance/level based cosmetics are their plans that we know of so far
I do REALLY love the Thunder Hammer, but I feel a bit useless when I fight a horde... Like the damage feels low
Which areas have alot of dregs?
Is it just me or does the Ogryn feel.. very squishy
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I feel as if my toughness gets chewed out really easily, even though I try my best to sustain it via the heavy weapon swings
You still want to avoid taking damage as much as possible, shield seems to be the big thing for Ogryn
Vermintide did use dirty as most cosmetics you could buy from the store were just chromas with nothing new to them.... Where even achevemnt were chromas or not full skins..... HERE in darktide the achevemnt gear is worth farming for and seems to scale on look to dificutly. you want to look like a heavy armord bad ass play like one to get it hersey+ is a different ballpark than menace-
Melk is going to sell cosmetics as well and the premium shop will be live on launch
As a main for ogryn i can not confirm how to play past heresy though shield works fine for taking the front ranged dmg, from what ive been told you want to focus up on range dmg first help out that sharpshooter then take the wave, you have big dmg at range so use it well, in melee focus on dodging block pushing, work your feats into your build to be more fluid in combat, ogryn plays almost like a vermintide character but with a hard heavy gun to boot. But this isnt vermintide so do not fucos purely on melee. Also dont forget sprinting eats block and ogryn can dodge to reach ranged targets to avoid there fire.
Why am I taking health damage from any enemy when I have full toughness as Zealot, am I missing something?
where is your toughness going? losing it from melee hits? Remember to Dodge, dip, dive, duck, and Dodge!
I just played 1st game with it and i feel it really reskin of 2h hammer from V2 (which is good) with power charged attack on top. My only complain is that it feels little bit to slow even with zealot attack speed buffs
So is shield like the best defacto ogryn melee option atm?
With the zealot penance, what counts as "dashing" is that sprinting or is it using their ult?
Its a stand/gesture when you are on the loading screen at the end of the match 🙂
Ultimate. You want to release the attack BEFORE you reach the Mutant
Ranged mostly
I hope that on release vet gets access to a full face helmet. The brain bucket is a little less than cool looking imo
Ah cool
I'm $ure there will be other options
What is the +wounds on curios do?
Do you gain your own coherency bonuses?
For what it is now? No
You can go down an extra time
gives you another pip on your health bar, so you can go down again
Psykers force sword push is going to be soo good now lol, it no longer uses peril.
Does that extra pip eat the grimoire too? Or does it still take away the same percentage?