ATLien Aficionados 🍑

[tender edge]

Live in Dallas, but grew up in Atlanta

[desert dawn]

Worst case scenario I take tea bags or ferrero rocher pocket coffee chocolates filled with espresso

You said you can’t take any kind of kettle? They make this heater coil that’s cheap enough to throw if they say no

https://a.co/d/dfeixEa

[desert dawn]

So you mean your a traitor

[desert dawn]

Radio is pretty solid. They try to be in the medium range. We have plenty of roasters who roast medium or dark. Unfortunately no brick and mortar light roasters

[sharp jasper]

Hmm I'll have to see if this breaks their rules

Thanks!

[gaunt gulch]

oh man I made my first immersion circulator out of these

[gaunt gulch]

Anyone interested in an impromptu meet up at auxillary sometime?

@nova wadi please ignore this is for people who want to meet up

[desert dawn]

I’m game

[cedar olive]

Yeah I’m game as well!

[desert dawn]

If all goes well I will be officially selling Gititu by next week

[gaunt gulch]

I am pretty flexible next week except Friday. Or are weekend best?

[sharp jasper]

I'm down. I'll just be out of town next week.

[gaunt gulch]

Do we also want to come up with a kid friendly option?

Not necessarily aux but for flexibility

My sworks step down baskets came. @desert dawn what did we say we were going to do to tamp acidity? Did we come to with something? I wonder if going to 1:4.5 INPUT would balance

[desert dawn]

We upped the dose to 16.5 and did not change grind size. It did not completely solve the issue. Still slightly rough/sharp finish.

To keep 15g dose;
-Did the puck paper cover the entire puck?
-Grind finer
-Increase yield
-Experiment option add a 58mm screen for additional “drip assist” in the basket.

It’s totally possible to do 15g. It’s just less forgiving till we figure out the hack

[gaunt gulch]

I did same grind and 1:4.5. I think I will actually go coarser and back to 1:4

[desert dawn]

How did it taste?

I was using 50ppm water

[gaunt gulch]

Hmm I'm using 1/3 tww.

It was nice but a bit copper top

[desert dawn]

Should be the same 50ppm

[gaunt gulch]

Have you seen those puck ejectors? I wonder from an operation standpoint if that would help clean your baskets if you're not using the stock one?

[gaunt gulch]

Would a long soak adjust some of the battery acid you think? I haven't been doing that in the non-sworks

[gaunt gulch]

Okay, I just went coarser and back down to 1:4. Acidity was very nice. Lots more flavor coming out but still a tiny bit astringent something I wouldn't even mention if I wasn't speaking to y'all.

34 on my df64 SSP mp with burr lock at -5 puts me around 311µ

In theory

I am straight off boil

[desert dawn]

I thought about it. I was hoping to see someone else using it

[nova wadi]

Got my last deal in for the year

I’m mad chilling till EoY

When we meeting up

[sharp jasper]

Had to get the stove in the Pic

I see how it is

P64?

How do you like it?

[jaunty ice]

P80. Just arrived will try some decaf later

[desert dawn]

Sweet! What burrs

[jaunty ice]

Just going to use the 80om

[desert dawn]

The mizen ones?

I think they are consider aggressive pre breaker or something and might need some slow feeding

Someone was talking about them recently

[jaunty ice]

Robert Asami has been using them with a higher rpm for filter. I’ll use 900 rpm for now. The biggest issue has been dosing at the lowest rpms or normal doses with lab sweets,

I’ve been using the a68 and a4z and it’s been pretty good. Feel like I’m missing something with espresso that I could occasionally nail with my 64mm stock df64 gen2. Also hoping it will be better all arounder.

[desert dawn]

On the EG1 I had trouble going below 800 rpm with ULF in the beginning. I think seasoning improved it

They just take a boat load of coffee to season.

[jaunty ice]

Seems like many people intend to use ULFs. I plan to use the a4z for that flavor profile though I suppose they use ulf for espresso as well

[desert dawn]

You can use it for espresso, but would be more cautious going to lower than 800 rpm. I don’t know if I like traditional shots in super high clarity. I feel like a little blendy is better

Realistically I like the idea of a two grinder setup more

[jaunty ice]

Yeah trying not to go three 😂

Though might consider hand grinding traditional beans one day

But plan is a4z travel and filter/soup and 80 Omni for espresso and processy beans.

[desert dawn]

I think I have 6 atm 😬
I don’t need them all.

[gaunt gulch]

Whatchu get?

[gaunt gulch]

Oh shit!

[gaunt gulch]

Ha which ones? I've got 5 but none exciting

Wait wait

Purchase order

[desert dawn]

@gaunt gulch my daughters elf made sushi. How did it do

[gaunt gulch]

I want to go through time

[nova wadi]

Work deal

[gaunt gulch]

I mean they say that sushi is about the marshmallow so that roll is a good ratio

[gaunt gulch]

Ha I was thinking you broke and got something really cool

[nova wadi]

Biznus

I did break though and bought a hoop 🙃

[desert dawn]

-1zpresso J - on permanent loan
-1zpresso ZP6 - keeper for travel
-Pietro Pro - I wanted to travel with it but it’s heavy and bulky
-Ode gen 2
-Niche Zero
-EG1
-Ditting Kr1203

[gaunt gulch]

Are you single dose grinding that ditting?

[jaunty ice]

I’ll be trying a4z for travel but may go A2 or q air if it’s too heavy.

[desert dawn]

Don’t know yet. Just got it

[jaunty ice]

I had a dm47 with kinu pob but I found it to be very difficult to dial in and the third time my wife told me the coffee I made tasted weird I gave up

Have a lagom mini with moonshine, bringing it to Taipei for my FIL to use.

Super easy, no fuss, sounds like it hates you when you use it

[desert dawn]

At one point I was going to get a mini. It just looked so well built

[jaunty ice]

I don’t really have any complaints. I’m currently using it for large batch French press and for decaf.

[gaunt gulch]

That's a nice for a tea drinker!

[jaunty ice]

My FIL is great. If all goes well we will try some cafes together when i go back. Bringing a ratio 4 him to use and bought an ORB too.

[gaunt gulch]

That's awesome

[gaunt gulch]

My fil and I hunt for pastries and middle eastern flat bread

[nova wadi]

Those both sound great

[gaunt gulch]

We've come to it over time...

[jaunty ice]

Sounds great

[plush sinew]

THE FIRST THING I NOTICED. casual-ass "I've got a bitchin range and vent hood, but sure, here's my coffee setup, too."

meanwhile, half the time I try to start my cooktop, the igniter just click click clicks.

[jaunty ice]

Mine starts but then clicks forever.

Dialing in this morning. Nothing bad. Workflow is great. It’s quiet. The dial in range for espresso is narrower but I think a68 is unusual for having ludicrous dial in range + stepped.

[jaunty ice]

Made two soupacanos as well. Shoey caballero was maybe the best I’ve had. Minmax Ethiopian honey process a bit muted from what I expected.

[nova wadi]

I need to do a side by side of soupacano and long soup

[plush sinew]

you'd think these fancy-af brands would at least get the electrical right...

though in fairness, mine (viking) is probably 20+ yrs old at this point

[nova wadi]

https://content.imageresizer.com/images/memes/You-Guys-are-Getting-Paid-thumbnail-url-2xscjb.jpg

You guys are cooking with fire?

[plush sinew]

the boss is ready to upgrade to induction

I'm not sure our electrical system is 🤣

I feel like it is way easier to switch to induction with just a cooktop rather than a full range+oven setup

[jaunty ice]

It’s always worse after cleaning so I think that plays a role

[jaunty ice]

Yeah. I’m not going to come back to the long soup recipe for a bit. It’s not fun to move a filled to the brim orb off the scale and then try to get bubbles out.

[desert dawn]

I really want induction, but have no real reason to go out and buy one

[nova wadi]

Ours came with the house lol

Ngl I thought induction was considered less fancy

[plush sinew]

well there are a lot of electric cooktops nowadays that aren't-induction-but-look-like-induction tops

so I think that's often the confusion

[jaunty ice]

Same especially when we boil water but it’s unreasonable to replace a working stove

I removed the chef towel and it looks better with wood. Now I’ll have less weird scale issues too.

[plush sinew]

(failed to show us the wine fridge in the first pic, just in case the range wasn't fancy enough)

😜

[jaunty ice]

The kitchen with its sunlight sold the house for us.

[nova wadi]

Yeah that’s a very nice space

Immaculate vibes

[cedar olive]

What kettle is that?

[jaunty ice]

I got it last year for black Friday it’s called lafeeca DJ. It’s not perfect but it works. Wish the base wasn’t so long.

Sometimes it overshoots while heating but now that I have water nearby it’s easy enough to add water. I think if I was buying a kettle now I would get the timemore fish with its smaller base.

[desert dawn]

I use https://a.co/d/5uCHfiE

it’s thin and soft

I have the rubber bar mats but they suck to clean

[jaunty ice]

I like that. I bought my mat at Muzhan last year and it’s fairly easy to clean with water and works well with the flair

[gaunt gulch]

And orb over! Add it to the next meet up agenda

[gaunt gulch]

I cook with magnets

[gaunt gulch]

Oh shit I need to check and see if my old dumb Hario kettle is induction safe!

[gaunt gulch]

Does it do anything for grinder noise?

[gaunt gulch]

Ugh I just took it up to the attic

Ok is this still...hmmm

[desert dawn]

I actually don’t put it under the grinder cause it’s not deep enough

[gaunt gulch]

Ok I am so tickled by this

[nova wadi]

Woah that’s so cool

[desert dawn]

That’s dope. Probably will boil just as fast as your regular kettle if not faster

For cuppings a lot of the roasters use a 1+ gallon kettle on an induction. Full boil in about 10 minutes. It’s crazy fast

[gaunt gulch]

Boo

[jaunty ice]

Gatugi factory on p80 was great this afternoon. Preferred it to a4z though hard to fully compare without any dialing

Making spaghetti on our gas range always feels super dumb.

[gaunt gulch]

I'm really curious about going to Bigger burrs. Can you go into the differences?

[desert dawn]

Short torch pitching

Pitchii

Not sure about bigger size

They are handmade in japan. They have an American warehouse so it’s not bad. They are only $22, quality is excellent, pours beautifully

I have the 400ml and it fits the orb perfectly

[jaunty ice]

Aren’t you worried about shattering it during a pump? 400cc looks nice

[desert dawn]

It’s a good point. Come to think of it I barely use it for soup I’m using the plastic cup 99% of the time

I also soup 5% of the time

[jaunty ice]

I ordered some cortado glasses that are supposed to fit it well

doesn't really help if you are doing high volume

[desert dawn]

So far I’m not going to use it for volume yet. Work flow is not fast enough

[jaunty ice]

@nova wadi this is for the sworks mod right? #1440172245136965643 message

[nova wadi]

It’s the picopresso stand

[nova wadi]

Damn everyone in here has a sick ass kitchen

Meanwhile we’re still in our starter home cause our rate is under 3%

[cedar olive]

^same brother

[sharp jasper]

Felt cute, decided to make an evening coffee. 🤗

Boy I feel like I'm having a stroke looking at this. 😂😂😂

[gaunt gulch]

Is the guy who has a dedicated lighting setup for his coffee bar giving shit?

[sharp jasper]

Hey, how can I truly tell if my grind geometry is optimal unless I have dedicated lighting??

But yes

Yes I am

[jaunty ice]

The biggest problem with that AI kitchen is the 220v espresso machine

[sharp jasper]

So the 48 burner stove is more acceptable than 220v? 😬

[gaunt gulch]

Can't ai have European hallucinations?

[jaunty ice]

The vent hood is truly fascinating and frightening

[gaunt gulch]

Did you find or generate that picture?

[nova wadi]

Anyone got any extra money I can have?

I need that kitchen

[sharp jasper]

I used meta ai. Took only a couple of tries

[jaunty ice]

Can you post the worst try?

[desert dawn]

I’m in the same boat. I have an older home that I bought when I was single. Now I wear golden hand cuffs

[jaunty ice]

I picked up my daughter from a birthday party in VaHi last weekend. Her father moved into the home over 20 years ago before he even met his wife.

It’s a good thing to stay put at least financially. Especially in a good neighborhood.

[plush sinew]

Oh I've got one of those, coulda told you that, sry

[gaunt gulch]

Nah it's one I already have.

[sharp jasper]

I mean it doesn't understand GIANT stove and vent hood

Had to tell it to double the size

Chatgpt was a bit cleaner

[gaunt gulch]

I mean I still wouldn't say no to that

[jaunty ice]

Yet it understands the importance of brands like LAFHFRCCHO

[jaunty ice]

Needs more knobs

Fr though no more wasting water 😢

[gaunt gulch]

I don't hate the pot filler on the counter

[nova wadi]

The longer you look the more of a stroke you have

Here’s my kitchen

[cedar olive]

Daddy hoff on display too

[plush sinew]

Wow I hope that's also AI and not someone's actual home because Y I K E S

"ah yes the luxury copper vent hood cladding above your...rustic brushed metal stove...across from your brass sink fixture"

🤬

[sharp jasper]

Solid starter home right there

Hopefully your next one has room for a picture of Lance

On this whole topic, I do have one major complaint. I want a small house with a big kitchen and that is just so dang hard to find.

I know I can make the kitchen bigger, but still... Super annoying.

[nova wadi]

Lance hangs above the master bed of course

[desert dawn]

That sounds hard to find. Reno this day and age kinda sucks too.

[jaunty ice]

Townhouses can do this. Smaller homes tend to be older.

Our worst kitchen in Atlanta was the 1970s townhouse we lived in off Clairemont in Decatur.

[desert dawn]

I think best bet would be an open concept where the kitchen island can be XXL maybe taking over a bit of space where a breakfast table or other things would have gone

Like meaning you can maybe find spaces that match that and at most need to upsize the island

Or second island

I would totally do two islands if I had the chance.

I would also be totally ok with more commercial-ness in my kitchen. F- the marble and granite. Give me SS all over and a floor drain with a hose tap so I can hose the whole place down

[jaunty ice]

Our marble can’t handle anything hot

It’s so dumb

[desert dawn]

Oh that sucks big time

[nova wadi]

What do you mean by that

[jaunty ice]

I think the marble has a sealant to prevent stains but leaving hot pans on them causes its own stains. It’s fixable, just irritating.

[desert dawn]

Professionally fixable or like you just scrub it out? I assume you scrub it out you ruin the sealant and have to reseal?

I think I remember some family members with a clear heat resistant mat to still be able to see their counters

[nova wadi]

Didn’t know that was a thing

Dang

[jaunty ice]

It feels dumb. It is dumb.

[desert dawn]

My kitchen still has the original laminate or Formica? Countertops and then the additional section has plywood counter. I can’t bring myself to do another reno

[jaunty ice]

My wife wants plywood countertops. Obviously has its own issues but functional. We are constantly complaining because it feels like the house was built for really tall people who want to look but not touch things.

My almost 11yo son is really good at finding build weaknesses. Just gotta repeat the same sequence with the right amount of torque

[desert dawn]

lol no I literally cut a piece of plywood for the little section I added. Nothing pretty

I won’t change it till I redo counters in the whole house

But i don’t want to till my kids are older

[jaunty ice]

That’s wise

[desert dawn]

We are short. 5’7ish and 5’1 so everything feels like it’s for a tall person

I added this built in for a breakfast table and the plywood for additional counter top

Eventually I’ll have to put all the finishing on the cabinets I added for the coffee stuff and storage and redo this primary kitchen too

[nova wadi]

I’m guessing our marble countertops aren’t real or something

I truly never ever considered that I couldn’t put something hot on them

I don’t do the cooking outside grilling and crockpot so I guess that’s why lol

[gaunt gulch]

This is what I wanted but was not partner approved

[gaunt gulch]

Lol I should rent out my twins to stress test products and design

[jaunty ice]

My daughter likes to recount how many device screens he’s shattered

[gaunt gulch]

This brings up some complicated emotions

[desert dawn]

The commercial kitchen? Ya I got a firm f- no

My coffee scale needs a timer beeping function for tea.

[gaunt gulch]

Stainless steel Island

[gaunt gulch]

I just have kitchen timers everywhere

[desert dawn]

That’s the only other option but my two year old takes all my stuff and hides it in his toys or kitchen

I guess no choice. Any kind you like

Bonus points if I can Velcro it to my cabinet door and it’s rechargeable

[jaunty ice]

For us the primary use for Alexa devices has been timers. News and then Music since they began allowing non Amazon Music options. But mostly just use the timer function.

[gaunt gulch]

Haha hold on I'm upstairs but I'll show you something

[gaunt gulch]

Magnets and Velcro on this one

[nova wadi]

I’ve been informed that our counter tops are quartz

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-more-know-gif-4483207

[jaunty ice]

As I recall expensive and better than marble.

Still has hot pan issues

[nova wadi]

My wife said absolutely do not put a hot pan on the counters. That’s why there’s a trivet right next to the stove

Trivet is a new word for me

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hanks-forrest-gump-not-a-smart-man-not-smart-gif-4495828

[jaunty ice]

Furiously googling trivet

[sharp jasper]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSHosB0jMTC/?igsh=bG9jMjhydDNtZnQz

Me, except with coffee at 6am. Whiskey at 6pm.

Instagram

[desert dawn]

I like the simplicity and big numbers

Now yall know why I didn’t buy countertops. Bc when the time came wife wanted white quartz. And I said I’m going to pay 10K for something I can never use?!? Are you out of your mind.

My wife’s response was you spent 3K on coffee equipment I can’t even use

Needless to say I didn’t buy any coffee equipment for a couple years till I started this micro Roastery route

[desert dawn]

Link?

[plush sinew]

Don't mind me, just out here with my indestructible, sexy-ass granite countertops

(dinosaur for scale)

(don't get black cab hardware though. Is trash)

[nova wadi]

Went to Rumis for dinner

[jaunty ice]

Rumis and Delbar are both great

[desert dawn]

Rumis Roswell is one of my favorites. The Delbar owner used to work for Rumis

[nova wadi]

Wish we had places like this

Looks like Paris has a pretty great coffee scene. Need to pick my French back up

[gaunt gulch]

We bought them ages ago and product link is dead. I'll see if I can find another version

[gaunt gulch]

I'm jealous it wasn't great when I lived there

[nova wadi]

Oh man how long did you live in Paris

[desert dawn]

No worries. Ty

[jaunty ice]

I was there in October. Solid espresso, Tanat just a couple blocks south had a pourover there after

[cedar olive]

Substance is the bucket list cafe experience for me in Paris

[gaunt gulch]

2 years in my 20s. I was in culinary school and cooked in a couple restaurants. Not going to lie, pretty great time to live there

[nova wadi]

Ah man I’m super jealous

I bet that was incredible

I’ve never been to France. First time in Europe was last May

[desert dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-gif-12302852456566453263

[plush sinew]

The story of most EU cities 10+ years ago.

italian spro really had a stranglehold imo

[nova wadi]

Yeah that makes total sense

[gaunt gulch]

Is Nespresso still considered Italian spro?

[desert dawn]

George Clooney says so

[nova wadi]

Cloontang is always right

[gaunt gulch]

Man I've been trying the declining kettle temp in my PO but I'm not liking then as much

[jaunty ice]

Declining temp intimidated me. Now that I’m making water so plenty is nearby and used to cooling water to 80f for soupacano I’m interested in trying Tetsu Kasaya’s switch recipe

[desert dawn]

I really liked his 2.0 switch recipe, but I think it’s not for all coffee. Like I maybe would not use it on UL

[desert dawn]

You can do the opposite and bloom with lower temp water. Supposed to be better for florals I think

[gaunt gulch]

That was so finicky and I never thought it was worth it

I heard it was a recipe for more developed roasts

Is the declining water temp the 2.0 recipe?

[desert dawn]

2.0 closes the switch twice and I think does decline temp

[gaunt gulch]

I'm sorry. I'm looking at my response and it's not great. I couldn't make it work for me, but so many people love it and it already sounds like you have some work flow set up in your favor so I bet it'll be great. Let me know if it's something I should revisit

[jaunty ice]

No no I was just reflecting back on a declining temp recipe I recall reading about a year ago when I was learning filter with a Bodum Meilor that had zero temp info. I haven’t tried it and I left my switch in Taipei so I won’t get a chance to use it until February. I actually appreciate your feedback and Zo Shah’s as well.

I suspect I’ll mostly be making oxo soup. A little worried I’m going to have to come up with a workable water solution.

I feel like I need to come up with a different pfp for this server

[gaunt gulch]

Lol @nova wadi hasn't noticed my joke profile pic yet. I've slowly been making it more apparent

Is that what pfp means? Lol I had to Google it

[jaunty ice]

The kids on build a pc sales discord taught me everything I know.

[nova wadi]

Oh I noticed, I just wasn't sure if it was tounge in cheek or if you just didnt know how to upload a pfp

[gaunt gulch]

Haha always a good guess

[nova wadi]

Tongue in cheek will always be my guess going forward

[gaunt gulch]

Nah don't discount gross incompetence

[plush sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-costanza-george-costanza-you're-damn-right-it's-me-it's-me-gif-1936990966492701136

[desert dawn]

Yep googled pfp

Speaking of I keep thinking to update mine but can’t come to a conclusion

[gaunt gulch]

You'll think of something good!

[cedar olive]

Last brew of Gatugi factory this am @desert dawn !

Been a great coffee. Really consistent results too

Today might’ve been my best brew. Getting the most sweetness I’ve had so far

[desert dawn]

Wooo!

Im happy you enjoyed it.

[desert dawn]

Haha, thats what I was thinking of but all the roasters or pros I see have something other than their logo

[gaunt gulch]

Lol! ok I'm going to remove now. it was making me super uncomfortable

By the way I found a new cafe for a meet up: https://www.instagram.com/lumecoffeeco?igsh=MTJncmI2MnNoNml1aA==

[desert dawn]

I know! They created it after me. I mean obv great name choice. BUT I WENT THROUGH 100S OF NAMES AND SEARCHED THE WORLD. SO WHY ANOTHER ONE IN ATL!!!!

And wth. They got a 1000 followers

[cedar olive]

Looks like they have chrome yellow as a roasting partner but maybe they should partner with you @desert dawn 😂😂😂

Also - is Gititu your next release?

[desert dawn]

Yes to Gititu, but I have such a limited qty left maybe 5 bags?

I would partner with cafes doing slow pour or something catererd to handling UL roasts. I dont have anything for milk yet

[cedar olive]

4*

[desert dawn]

lol

[cedar olive]

How does Gititu compare to Gatugi factory?

[desert dawn]

Its primarily Sl28. Gatugi was primarily SL34. Gititu has more tart but ripe red berry. To me its raspberry some described it as cranberry through out the entire sip, in the middle you get grapefruit mixed with some complexity of spice, and as it cools the finish becomes like cola

But imagine the taste of cola without carbonation of course

[gaunt gulch]

Speak for yourself!

[desert dawn]

Some people say you get white flower after it cooled completely. I didnt notice that

[desert dawn]

I wondered why the heck you had that pipe. I was like does he have an ice machine???

[jaunty ice]

Feeling like a fool for my sodastream refills

Best salsa for tacos I’ve found so far. Wish tortillas were fresh

[nova wadi]

Wait for real?

We have one by us but I’ve never even considered trying it tbh

@gaunt gulch nice pfp 👌

[desert dawn]

You mean having all big name tortilla factories ITP isn’t good enough

I honestly wonder having those big factories why our tortillas are still sub par

[desert dawn]

Is this to regularly make soda or?

[jaunty ice]

My wife is really sensitive to some kind of preservative used in tortillas. So it’s not like they are bad just not fresh.

[jaunty ice]

When I left California 20 years ago I didn’t realize the rest of the country had a very different Mexican food experience. I learned not to pay attention to where places were operating just whether they were busy and who was shopping there. This store has the best salsa. Meat isn’t bad.

[gaunt gulch]

Sparkling water. I like a high psi. So I use a fingered water and mineral mix and make a crap load a day.

Keeps me from drinking diet Cokes all day

[jaunty ice]

I only drink sparkling water now. Which is an upgrade from when I mostly just drank Coke Zero.

[gaunt gulch]

Don't like Coke zero but for some reason I love diet Coke

[jaunty ice]

Was working terrible hours for many years and got into some bad habits like Coke Zero in the morning.

[gaunt gulch]

This was me on set

[gaunt gulch]

This

[desert dawn]

Is high psi like high carbonation?

[gaunt gulch]

Tighter bubbles

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah

Well probably for all intents and purposes the same

[jaunty ice]

Is this why topo chico is so much better than my sodastream?

I think it says something that I have a new grinder and just made 3/4 cups with the A4z

[desert dawn]

When I first got my EG1 it didn’t get as much use. I think learning it and esp seasoning jt took a long time

Actually my ZP6 lived in the cabinet for months too till I could get it right

[desert dawn]

You could leave a topo out all night and it will still be carbonated in the morning

[gaunt gulch]

Especially because a lot of times it's like. Well, I need something that I know works right now. I don't have time to play

[gaunt gulch]

Best thing about this setup is that I never have to drink flat water. If it's gone slightly less carbonated than I want, I just top it off and recarbonate

[jaunty ice]

I hate how big this thing is compared to a68. I think I should get used to it, even if it’s one or two cups a day then pull out the a68 and compare again

[desert dawn]

Wow that’s awesome

[nova wadi]

Yeah that’s very true. Not sure why I have a hang up on it when my favorite burger in the city is NFA

If yall haven’t had NFA Burger I’d strongly suggest making the trip

They just opened one in the Avalon but the original location is in a gas station in Sandy Springs

[jaunty ice]

I haven’t been yet but very aware of it

Avalon is such a cool location. Hope the bike track nearby is coming along

[jaunty ice]

My wife went to a soft opening for a new tea place today in doraville super H mart plaza I think.

Waited 30 minutes

[gaunt gulch]

Oh shit I might be up there tomorrow. How was it

[jaunty ice]

Waiting to hear back will update

I’m kind of weird about boba tea. First time I had it was off canal st in NYC in 2006 and it happened to be hot. So that’s mostly what I order- few places serve it hot and even fewer do it well

[nova wadi]

Ive actually never had it

[jaunty ice]

I still recommend tea top but I don’t go often because it’s not healthy. I usually cut sugar to 1/4 or 1/3 and would never go over 1/2 sugar.

Pre pandemic tea top had a nice cafe atmosphere but still no indoor sitting afaik

[desert dawn]

Man someone needs to make a cheap alternative to paper cups

There is a company but it’s very expensive. My cost was like $1.5/cup

[nova wadi]

We have a place called tea time over here but I assumed it’s all just sugar drinks

Not that I’m above a sugary treat

Just never had one of these

[desert dawn]

@gaunt gulch I’m fancy like Applebees

[gaunt gulch]

You could do BYOhealthviolation?

[gaunt gulch]

I've got so many of these tooo5

I've got so many timers and scales and yet find myself constantly asking where the hell is my timer and scale

[nova wadi]

So were both of you in the restaurant business?

[gaunt gulch]

I honestly cannot convince of someone having full sugar and being like yeah this is the right amount I wanted

[nova wadi]

I just had a stroke

[gaunt gulch]

Not anymore more. Been about a about 15 years since I cooked professionally

[gaunt gulch]

I got some command strip Velcro if you need

[desert dawn]

QSR restaurants and a winery till last year

I fell in love with them. 3d printed from clay water and salt

[gaunt gulch]

Whoa that's cool

[desert dawn]

Ya big time.

[nova wadi]

Oh man that’s awesome

[desert dawn]

They are paper thin, so when done you toss they shatter and will turn to compost. BUT they get super hot so they need a sleeve. The lids were silicone if I remember but we just didn’t use them

[jaunty ice]

High likelihood the boba will be bad and worst case scenario you get bad tea too. I usually order the black/darjeeling or green milk tea hot 25% sugar with boba. Not clear this place offers. The authentic places have great slushies and add ins like mung bean or taro that are high quality

[desert dawn]

They were using them at the Onyx booth at SCA

[jaunty ice]

An adult who wants southern sweet tea but with boba.

[nova wadi]

When I was in college at Alabama I’d put down some sweet tea like nobody’s business

I didn’t even consider the amount of sugar I was consuming

Can’t touch the stuff now

[desert dawn]

Recipe starts at 1 cup sugar per gallon

I followed the recipe. Customers said my tea “went bad” the employees made it with “love” and used probably at least 1/3 of a sugar bag per gallon and then it was right

[gaunt gulch]

I got a sweet tooth, but full sweet boba is too much for me

[jaunty ice]

When my wife and I met in school in Winston-Salem a NC native taught us his sweet tea recipe which was basically how one would make sugar crystals but tea.

[desert dawn]

All the tea talk

[nova wadi]

I got some spirit tea too

I’ve only brewed it like 3 times

I just love mah coffee

How do you like it?

[jaunty ice]

Good Oolong is heavenly

And you keep adding hot water and making cups

[desert dawn]

It’s wonderful. I drink a lot more tea in the winter. It’s warming and soothing

I just don’t trust boba shops. They are ran by 16 year olds

[jaunty ice]

Molly tea review: tea quality bad, very milky, no boba they add a lot of jasmine fragrance

[desert dawn]

Atlanta is full of people that have money and no taste buds or something

[daring flare]

true this hahahhahaha

[plush sinew]

I feel attacked (justly)

PS, if you want to buy teas from an atlanta local who knows her stuff, https://www.clairthe.com

Maybe not the full breadth of the tea-world, but I've had some real good blacks from her

[nova wadi]

Oh definitely would prefer to shop local

Speaking of local bout to snag that Lume drop

[plush sinew]

speaking of which - Zo, anything to note about this latest batch? Change any params or anything noticeable?

[desert dawn]

Technically, I have not brewed it this light. @gaunt gulch has a bag. Not sure if he’s cracked it open yet

I pushed this production version even lighter than the one I had previously. Also don’t know if the cold was in my favor today but I was able to push it substantially lighter into OTL

[desert dawn]

Yeah I released it quietly at first cause I have so little

[jaunty ice]

I don’t know much about roasting but the Ceto blog post regarding keeping doors and windows open was interesting. Hadn’t really considered how sensitive roasting could be

[desert dawn]

Oh I didn’t finish his blog post! Thx for the reminder

[nova wadi]

Oops 🙊

[jaunty ice]

https://ceto.coffee/blogs/news/our-first-year-at-ceto-breakthroughs-breakdowns-and-a-hard-pivot for those interested

[gaunt gulch]

I was looking to ab test, but I need another person. I'm can't handle that much coffee, and despite that I will drink it all if I make it

[nova wadi]

$5 shipping for being so close is kind of hilarious

Need a pick up option haha

[jaunty ice]

My little brother bought a sample roaster many many years ago with the intention of selling but found out that he would need to rent a commercial co-op space if he wanted to sell food items. No home roasting allowed apparently.

[nova wadi]

Actually I take that back, I’d spend $5 to avoid Atlanta traffic all day

[jaunty ice]

Shipping pretty expensive, doesn't really matter how close

I think back in the day (pre-pandemic) Radio Roaster would just leave the beans in our mailbox (free shipping in 30030 area code) since it was local

[desert dawn]

To give you an idea I when I first started I bought 55lbs of a green coffee from a local Peruvian importer. I went through all of it at 100g batches.

Then I switched to 150g batch size and blew through another 30lbs of coffee at least.

Fast forward to today well over 100lbs and starting to get the hang of it

Dialing in new coffees is currently the battle

[desert dawn]

There is a lot to it. However, especially this summer they are in support of small businesses

Shipping is astronomically expensive, it was way cheaper before. I ran an online business in college and shipped world wide.

The only benefit you have now is Shopify or other platforms sharing some of their discounts with you

[cedar olive]

In general or new coffees you’re profiling to sell?

[nova wadi]

I like the idea of setting up a co roasting place here in atlanta

Been talking about it with a buddy actually

[desert dawn]

Profiling new coffee to sell

[desert dawn]

I thought a lot about this.

[cedar olive]

A CoRo spot could be really cool.

[cedar olive]

What you cooking up @desert dawn ??!

[jaunty ice]

Chef my fridge march 30th 2025 second half is must watch material

[desert dawn]

Jose Giraldo, Finca Las Marias estate Gesha. It’s stupid expensive.

It’s fermented in cherry 24 hours, pulped without water fermented 24 hours, then washed to white honey process and dried for 35 days

Gesha wants to roast fast but is know for tipping easily. That’s exactly what’s happening for me

If I lower heat/slow down then its too developed

[desert dawn]

The new culinary wars is supposed to be dropping soon. Yes Chepf or however they pronouce it

[jaunty ice]

Jose giraldo typica natural changed me. I brewed not fully appreciating what funk could do.

[desert dawn]

Haha, no funk or coferment. This one was just advanced processing Gesha

[cedar olive]

Sounds awesome. I’m excited for it

[gaunt gulch]

I had such a good po yesterday. I forgot to change my grinder from soup, so did the QC at 90c, with wwdt on first and melo the last 2. It was honestly one of the best cups I've made in a long time

I have been trying the QC at normal po grind but haven't been getting what I want so this plus the melo was a nice surprise

[nova wadi]

What grind are you using on your DF64

I just ordered my first box of sey yesterday

Buy ban not going well

[daring flare]

defo not hahhahaha

did you get the LO crispiliano geisha ?

[nova wadi]

Yeah man! Got those yesterday

Thanks again

[gaunt gulch]

Ha

Right now I'm at 34 with this recipe.

[nova wadi]

I’m about to try this

[gaunt gulch]

How old is your sey?

I am 15g and 4x 64g pours (because 64g easier math lol)

[daring flare]

of course broski!

one bro to another

also to those in ATL this weekend - shameless plug for my cupping @ flow coffee roasters starting 9am Saturday :DD

https://www.instagram.com/p/DSTkgyhjsuk/

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[sharp jasper]

Wish I was in town for it! I've never been to a cupping.

[nova wadi]

Yeah same I wish I could do this

Dad duty that morning

[daring flare]

no worries!! nearing xmas i know things can get hectic

[nova wadi]

100% want to do one though

If we could get the whole group for one that would be so sick

[daring flare]

big soup discussion thatll be hahhahahah

just in case any BANAians come thru ill bring shoey aswell :))))

[sharp jasper]

What are BANAians?

[daring flare]

a cult within EAF (Ultra light lovers)

I had one come to my cupping in Jakarta Indonesia, so had to pull out a Peru Geisha from TPC

[nova wadi]

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1310053374061707274

Buying Addict Non Anonymous

Or something like that

[daring flare]

hehehhehe

[gaunt gulch]

Noo. Only weekend I'm out of town for the rest of the year!

[daring flare]

the cult in question ^

[daring flare]

no worries!!

not living in ATL , but trust when I come up theres always a good coffee to sip on

[nova wadi]

Once we get through the holidays I’ll be pretty open

My wife has our calendar packed through the end of the year

[cedar olive]

Im out of town and im so bummed!!!! The coffees on deck look amazing

[desert dawn]

I had put Gatugi in my creama loop yesterday and forgot to grind/brew

this morning I dumped in some El Socorro Juan Diego Gesha. This was the COE #3

dumped it out and realized my mistake. so I guess we are brewing a blend this morning 😭

[daring flare]

florals + acidity

you just made a panama geisha hahahha

[desert dawn]

Ahhhh I want to come! We are taking the kids out that day but if something changes I will let you know

[daring flare]

i appreciate that bro!

[desert dawn]

Don’t click that link. Lol.

[gaunt gulch]

You and shoebox are setting some trends

[desert dawn]

Honestly it’s not bad but over extracted. Went from a 15g dose to 27g so of course it ran for forever

[sharp jasper]

Why?? It didnt seem to anywhere too

...questionable.

But I've learned my lesson on buying. Worked down to only a couple pounds of coffee in my freezer. And only have 1 current subscription.

[daring flare]

they not gonna let you escape if you click that link hahahhahahaha

sucked into the void

[desert dawn]

It’s not bad. It’s a lot of industry people and many year veterans. Like seeing behind the scenes anywhere some good some surprising

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1044424384309362718

This is another one to avoid

[daring flare]

yeah

i mean im relatively young in the industry. college student whos been in coffee 5+ years since 15-16ish

but those guys were in coffee when i was in diapers

literally when george howell roasted that first "grand cru" kenya in the early 2000s

though i do find myself sometimes in BANA :PP

[desert dawn]

In coffee it really is the more you know the less you know.

Also Bana has very specific coffee preferences

Oh I’m in Bana a lot.

Got sucked into all the blasphemy

Also Bana is a secret thread. Invite only

[nova wadi]

I really enjoy seeing the industry talk in bana a lot. I’ve realized I don’t exactly align with all their tastes

[daring flare]

i can respect it tho. They like what they like and nothing ever gonna shake that

the epitome of light

[desert dawn]

Bana doesn’t dial in. Bana sets the grinder and if it doesn’t come out good it’s coal

They only dial in for experiments like oooo new equipment Im playing with

[cedar olive]

Is it actually? I just found it and pinned it a while back

[nova wadi]

It’s more that navigating discord is a nightmare

I didn’t know about threads for the longest time

[nova wadi]

Check out this hawk posted up in my front yard

Atlanta Hawk

[cedar olive]

That’s so sick

[jaunty ice]

I found bana searching for "atlanta" last year

[jaunty ice]

oh this is me

[jaunty ice]

I'm still learning, recently I found out on desktop you can hover over channels to see subthreads

[gaunt gulch]

Yo that's cool!

[desert dawn]

Ooo maybe stuff has changed 🤷‍♂️

[nova wadi]

Airworks about to drop some TPC if any of yall are subscribed

[desert dawn]

Alma. Serious operation they are running

[nova wadi]

Nice! I really need to check it out. Not far at all

[cedar olive]

That price point for El Velo gonna be steep

[desert dawn]

Out of all the roasters in Atlanta I have not seen anyone with an operation this large

[cedar olive]

How was it??

[jaunty ice]

bigger than east pole? I haven't seen the dancing goat physical roastery

[desert dawn]

Really cool. Totally different experience than any other cafe in Atlanta with having two Lorings running behind the counter.

I am biased bc of course seeing a large scale roastery in full swing gave me googly eyes

Coffee. I got a drip they had their natural process on. Its clean with of fruit. Roast I would say it’s a classic medium. Which I don’t expect any of these cafes catering to the general public to serve UL since most prob need milk and sugar

Little background. Alma is owned by Harry Hutchins who also owns multiple farms in Honduras. They warehouse the coffee in canton and setup Alma for a cafe

I roasted this same green back in October in UL and have tried there other green more recently. Look out for it 👀

I really want to support them as a local business

[desert dawn]

Substantially larger operation

Unless east hole has a boat load hiding in the back

This place is using either two 15kg roasters or a 15 and 35 to keep up with demand. I’m pretty sure they are partnered with larger coffee subscription companies. The amount they were bagging no little cafe is moving

[jaunty ice]

My pfp is a cap I ordered at East Pole, that place is cozy and not too far from me. But haven't had great coffee recently and ordered a yeast process coffee that they made on their automated filter machine and it was so bad. They served it to me at a temperature I would never even use to brew beans like this.

[desert dawn]

Any of you are welcome to use my latte art picture

[gaunt gulch]

@desert dawn yet tuh (Sorry if this goes through twice)

[desert dawn]

Oh man theirs looks good too!

[nova wadi]

I’m so stoked to see what you do with their green

[jaunty ice]

YES

[desert dawn]

I think @sharp jasper and @gaunt gulch had their UL natural process. It would say La Unica on it

[gaunt gulch]

Holy cow! Did y'all see that the former owner of radio passed away? Wonder if him selling is linked.

[jaunty ice]

That’s so sad

[desert dawn]

Ya I did see. Sad. I hope he had a wonderful life

[jaunty ice]

Just passed by the salty in VaHi, we have in buckhead too. I wanted to like it but anyone else agree they are mid?

I miss Sarah’s off N Decatur or a revolution vanilla bean.

[plush sinew]

lukecold take: Atlanta ain't got good donuts.

unless you want a plain, KKreme donut

(disclaimer: I also just... don't like donuts)

[nova wadi]

We really don’t. We had an incredible mom and pop donut shop near me and now it’s a Dunkin

I have family in Texas and it’s insane how many mom and pop donut places they have there

I absolutely love Kolaches and they’re not easy to find out here

Good ones at least

[gaunt gulch]

I either eat Krispy Kreme or sarahs

[jaunty ice]

When I was in Winston Salem there was no decent local donut shop. Because the local shop was Krispy Kreme

[gaunt gulch]

He'll yes. Project "convert my 58-49mm step down to a standard 49mm basket so we can more accurately test if the step down vs flush 49mm is better for soup" looks like it might actually be easier than I thought

[cedar olive]

Is Da Vinci donut any good???

[jaunty ice]

I haven't been yet, it seems like it's just one donut with different toppings. Donut must be really good given their reviews

[jaunty ice]

or maybe this

[desert dawn]

Sarah’s with the pink boxes?

[jaunty ice]

Blooming onion but donut

Sarah aka Sara up in Duluth

Tastes the most like what I grew up with in Cali

[desert dawn]

I am meeting a lot of restaurant owners/landlords etc.

There is a disconnect in all of it. Talent, execution and management. I think this is why places are barely making it 5 years.

Yes- food, coffee, etc margins do suck but the ones that do well are worth it

[desert dawn]

Ya I used to go to the one off of jimmy carter. It’s a family business. Or at least 2-3 locations were owned by different relatives

[jaunty ice]

They are really good. Not good for me but wish I had one close.

[desert dawn]

I thought so too!

I wish they had a couple better other breakfast items than I would have been really happy.

Community coffee but they kept it fresh which was fine. Donuts great. But if I got an egg & cheese croissant it was microwaved

Mic the egg fine, but not the croissant

[daring flare]

@desert dawn what do you roast on again ?

[desert dawn]

Roest L100… one day Roest P3000 ❤️

By one day I mean $40,000 and lots of space later 🫠

I have a Huky 500T also but not using atm

I actually really like that drum roaster, but no need right now.

The L100 acts like a mini Loring

[jaunty ice]

need density and a donut shop next to a specialty coffee shop next to a shaobing egg place

[desert dawn]

That shopping plaza would need a parking deck

Now I want breakfast. Add egg Bhurji and your choice of paratha or sliced bread

[jaunty ice]

yeah that sounds good. Flat bread and egg is heaven

oh my god egg bhurji has cilantro?

my day should start with this

[desert dawn]

We would put cilantro on everything like other Asian countries put green onion on everything

No I’m serious. Every dish if it’s need a garnish - cilantro

[jaunty ice]

we had corn tortillas substituted with flour tortillas a year ago and they were terrible- my wife turned it into this egg dish and threw cilantro plus or minus green onion and it was so good

[desert dawn]

I love cilantro. My wife has the soap taste issue with cilantro. Sucks.

[jaunty ice]

Sorry. I always feel bad for the cilantro soap tasters and broccoli haters.

[gaunt gulch]

Oh man

[gaunt gulch]

Oh that rough

[jaunty ice]

Speaking of cilantro

[nova wadi]

This is me. It really does suck

[nova wadi]

It’s pretty good but they’re small cakey doughnuts

I like my doughnuts light and airy

Prefer*

[desert dawn]

No cilantro for you either?

[nova wadi]

I won’t make a stink about it

Like if its mixed in enough I don’t really notice it too bad

Definitely sad to have the soap gene though

[desert dawn]

Ya that’s fair. But I would be out here making pesto out of it if I could

[nova wadi]

Yeah I probably wouldn’t love that

[daring flare]

might have a favor to ask from you then :pp

since I no longer have access to my beloved ikawa 100x

(coffee included)

[gaunt gulch]

I did one search for metal crema loop and now it's all I'm seeing!

[nova wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/zucking-zuckering-mark-zuckerberg-stairing-zuck-looking-zuck-gif-12496739009272054031

[gaunt gulch]

It's so pretty

[sharp jasper]

I am with you. That price point is just a bit steep.

[gaunt gulch]

Agreed. The original isn't that bad

[nova wadi]

I thought you meant you were getting targeted ads lol

[gaunt gulch]

Oh I am and every time I think to myself it's so pretty. And while I haven't tested whether or not it makes a difference, I know that people say it does, so it's probably a good purchase

[sharp jasper]

Want to borrow my original one to play with?

I have multiple disks to change how many beans it grabs per rotation.

I have the Pro and original so I won't be without.

[gaunt gulch]

I was looking at those. What's the difference?

[desert dawn]

On the original you use disks to change the speed. On the second version you use variable rpm

However I’m not enjoying the variable rpm

[gaunt gulch]

Are you doing that in your grinder anyway?

[desert dawn]

Yes, but the variable speed on the crema loop changes how fast it feeds the beans into the grinder

The original crema loop used discs with different feed rates. Like an 8 hole disc vs 1 hole disc. 8 feeds faster

[plush sinew]

yeah RPM always seemed like a very hamfisted way to handle a bean-feeder.

[plush sinew]

it's because I talked about it for all of 15s at the meetup, your phone heard me and our algorithms got together for some plotting, "ah yes, if we target both of them, surely one of them will buy it!"

[gaunt gulch]

Ugh

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah I would love to. Are you interested in parting with it if I love it?

[plush sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-999515482279420853

[desert dawn]

I’m going to start talking near my wife’s phone. “Your husband is gods gift to earth”

[gaunt gulch]

Ha

Her algorithm is probably too strong and will just assume her phone was stolen

[sharp jasper]

Sure! It makes it easier for me to give into the temptation of the pro.

[nova wadi]

Anyone ever been to Bizarre Coffee?

[jaunty ice]

How long until I walk into a local cafe and I can order soup

[desert dawn]

Can you walk to Ottawa and visit September?

I don’t know another one yet. There was a guy I met maybe he’s in the Philippines or somewhere pulling soup shots on a decent in his cafe

[desert dawn]

Name would have me worried

[jaunty ice]

I wish? They are so good and easy to appreciate and can be done with little fuss I assume it takes off at some point. Not sure which year…

[desert dawn]

You can barely find a pour over in Atlanta… selling soup is snake oil at this point

Also, I don’t know if most of those commercial machines can pull that profile. They would have to use an ORB or something.

[nova wadi]

I like the idea of a fleet of ORBs

[jaunty ice]

I started thinking about it with Brian Quan’s video. He makes the process looks terrible but it was still fine. A fleet of Orbs would be pretty cheap, fast and easy tbh.

[gaunt gulch]

Ok, y'all, would appreciate your group think here. I bought my BIL a step down basket for his orb/breville Oracle touch, but he's not using his orb at all but plans to, so now I feel like I need to pivot. Any good accessories for a 58mm machine you can think of. I'm kinda tapped at 60ish. He makes a lot of milk drinks

He's got the basics, nice tamper baskets etc

[gaunt gulch]

The most recent one?

I got to visit a local roaster today. It was pretty cool.

Y'all heard of Lume?

[jaunty ice]

https://youtu.be/0tfQ7K-ec_g?si=PfbMjsOSnJ6JX0lL I only watched for 11 minutes

[jaunty ice]

Nice glasses/cups?

[gaunt gulch]

That's not a bad idea.

[jaunty ice]

My most used past Christmas present is my notNeutral glasses, vero cappuccino

But I would appreciate fancy cups too

https://discord.com/channels/726985544038612993/1044424384309362718

[gaunt gulch]

Oh on espresso parts

I keep seeing these things in my algorithm https://www.espressoparts.com/products/artpresso-steam-wand-cleaning-tool

[jaunty ice]

I saw ODD using this recently with his new espresso machine

#1447956370262593699 message

[gaunt gulch]

I want to know how you clean it.

[jaunty ice]

Dishwasher safe?

[gaunt gulch]

"The pad easily detaches from the tool thanks to its Velcro backing, so you can rinse and squeeze out excess water between uses. Reinserting the pad is effortless, guided by the microfiber’s convenient seam. The best part? These durable pads are machine or hand-washable and replaceable, making this the ultimate tool for a safe, clean, and efficient barista experience"

[desert dawn]

I like the notneutral glasses you drank out of one today. The vero line is also really nice but in larger sizes gets very heavy

[jaunty ice]

I think my pfp is a yellow vero

[desert dawn]

Also I might know a guy with a commercial account at espresso parts

I have the smoked, but in 8oz or whatever size it gets heavy

The cortado size is heavy but not small enough to be fine

[desert dawn]

They are very strong which is nice. Could be a weapon

[jaunty ice]

Once you get them hot they hold onto that heat for a bit which is nice. Not a fan of the way the double wall (air insulated) glasses feel

[desert dawn]

The main advantage of vero is stackable

Lino stacks but not well

Ok I have 3.5 oz and 6oz vero.

The 6 is no joke hefty

[nova wadi]

I love my drippy pot espresso cups

[nova wadi]

Gititu has arrived

[cedar olive]

Same here but sad I have to wait 28 days 😭

I’m going to do a check in cup next week tho

[desert dawn]

Cory and I had a QC cup today. Flavor is nice, but it def still needs time.

We had a cup from 12/15 roast. Right now it’s still flat, then some bitter, astringency. As it cooled you could see the flavor. I’m honestly wondering last time if 30 days was too early cause @cedar olive seemed to get some nice cups in the end

[cedar olive]

Yeah it definitely aged well

[nova wadi]

I’ve been holding onto the last bit of the factory

[gaunt gulch]

Do y'all run multiple bags at a time? Or do you open one and finish it

[nova wadi]

Brother, I got like like 6 bags open

Shit its more like 10

I like to open my cabinet and let the day guide me

Today I did 2 Scenery Mario Hervas Honey PO, Dak White Lotus Java PO, and ended the day with a Shoebox Hachi Kohaku soup

Oh and a Moonwake Granja Paraiso 92 Decaf soup

[desert dawn]

I didn’t even know we were supposed to finish bags. I thought when it looks like a little you just leave it to the side for one last cup you find some months later

[jaunty ice]

My favorite cups are the Frankensteins from combinations of leftover beans

[sharp jasper]

I usually have 2-3 open.

And my leftover beans i always use to make a Frankenstein shot of a blend of the last bit of my old bag and first of a new bag. Makes for easier dialing in this way.

[jaunty ice]

Side comment on the P80- I haven’t had a good cappuccino since it arrived. I’ve been struggling to find beans I enjoy this year anyway and I don’t really drink straight spro. It has a touch less body than the conical burr I was using but I wonder if the increased clarity is causing an issue.

P80 does a good job being a counter balance to the A4z though. Had a nice soupacano with a gesha where the A4z highlights some unpleasantness. I’m wondering if I can try modulating brew temperature for a similar result. This weekend I think I’ll break out the A68 and revisit it.

[nova wadi]

These always hit for some reason

[desert dawn]

Are you using UL or lighter in general for the milkys?

[jaunty ice]

Yes. That’s always been the struggle.

[desert dawn]

Yes, esp now with big flats

[jaunty ice]

I’ve had some wonderful cups but 64mm burrs were not a good option. Had the best experience with stock df 64 gen2

Next best was SSP cv3 but it was so blendy it committed the unforgivable sin of making my favorite beans taste mid

[jaunty ice]

First experience with these. Reminds me of cv3 but with a higher floor

From a workflow perspective it’s great.

[gaunt gulch]

I can't do more than 2 or I end up getting confused with what is going on in my life

[gaunt gulch]

I feel like the big burrs might be making that difficult with the coffees we seem to prefer

[gaunt gulch]

Ok sorry I'm late lol

[jaunty ice]

It seems to do a decent job for filter/soup whereas a4z really pushed me to washed/funk avoidance

64mm Hu didn’t have enough body to allow for milk

[nova wadi]

I’m realizing I might like my K6 more than my DF64 MPs for soup

I changed my water at the same time though so need to keep testing

[desert dawn]

MPs are like razor clear to a fault. They need to be broken in and dialing in is extremely narrow range

[nova wadi]

I absolutely love them for filter

Been doing way more of that lately

[desert dawn]

Public service announcement. You can now buy a PO and caviar at Publix

[nova wadi]

Oh interesting

[jaunty ice]

I wish Publix still sold Delia’s sausage. So far only Kroger and some independent shops have

[desert dawn]

I don’t know what that is

[gaunt gulch]

Delia's chicken sausage? I think they used to have one over at eav. Is that still there?

Have we talked about pour over machines at shots? What are people's feelings on those real world and theoretical?

[jaunty ice]

She closed the stand but still sells the sausage. She used to own flying biscuit when it was good and I think they still use her sausages there

[nova wadi]

Decided to make an instagram account just for my coffee stuff so I can post there without over loading my friends and family lol

[cedar olive]

^i did the same @nova wadi

[jaunty ice]

Sacrificing my plan for auromar firestone soup and making a68 cap. Edit: a touch better.

[desert dawn]

The one that blendin uses was nice. I think it’s the pour steady. They can run multiple recipes.

Onyx owner said he got rid of it though because he kept having issues with the water jets getting clogged

The east pole one I think is Marcos. I think it’s only one recipe and hit or miss but maybe that’s the shop’s fault too.

[desert dawn]

I don’t think I have

[jaunty ice]

Had such a solid cup there in Houston, didn’t try Po though

[jaunty ice]

The coffee from their machine was too hot to drink when it was finished which shouldn’t be the case if you are brewing a yeast ferment

[nova wadi]

Now I just need to buy some bot followers and we’ll make it big

[desert dawn]

I went during SCA and the Lamastus family was there pouring Elida estate so I’m sure they dialed in differently

It was some private event that I didn’t even know was happening. I just walked in for coffee and quietly sat down in the back. Got lucky they turned the rest of the people away who didn’t sign up

[sharp jasper]

I love doing this at conferences with the food selections. If the conference space next to mine has better food, best believe I'll be sneaking over there and flipping my badge over. Only got busted once.

[gaunt gulch]

That's my main concern, it's that it's a set it and forget it. Not that there are training baristas to do in that either probably (which not that I want but understand) but I'm curious what y'all thought. Are you more inclined or less or non factor

@desert dawn I have to go to to Costco and I'm debating a cheeky trip to h mart to see if I can find a glass for orbover

Next event projects: true 49mm test, and ORBover vs soup solution for PO substitute, a test where zo is not making coffee every time

[sharp jasper]

Have you dialed in the same bean with two grinders? That's how I learned the differences between the Niche and DF83V.

Admittedly I need to probably spend more time evaluating feed rate vs dump. The ionizer definitely works better with slow feed.

[jaunty ice]

When I was there (spring 2024) I really felt annoyed that Houston had something that Atlanta did not

[jaunty ice]

I’m 19g:52g in less than 20s so on the turbo side. I had great cups from this bean with a different bag. Not sure if something is different or I forgot what ratio I was using.

[sharp jasper]

And you have a Flair58 right?

[jaunty ice]

A68 was a touch more turbo

[sharp jasper]

Hmm interesting

[jaunty ice]

It wasn’t a ton different. The other thing I’m factoring in is that I have my gaggiuino for milk steaming and I’m still learning. I think as the water in the machine stales the milk gets worse

Went back to microwave again which is less wasteful anyway

[sharp jasper]

If it works, and removes a variable, it works! I used a nanofoamer pro. Super consistent but a PITA to clean.

[jaunty ice]

Yeah I got rid of my nanofoamer pro but using their wand

[sharp jasper]

Yeah I'm thinking I'll sell mine.

[jaunty ice]

Sold the pro almost immediately

[sharp jasper]

Hated it that much??

[jaunty ice]

I had the original version via kickstarter

[jaunty ice]

Yes I hated the workflow

[sharp jasper]

Ahhh yeah. It was a pain there.

I'm one of those people who try to load the dishwasher as I cook. And I can't truly enjoy my cappuccino unless everything i used to make it is either cleaned or in the DW. 😂😂😅

[jaunty ice]

It was like cleaning and then weird inserts and a certain fill line. I love how the electric wand I can use exactly how much milk I’m going to use with minimal waste.

The steaming wand taught me how to stretch the milk and now I think I’m a bit better with the electric former.

[desert dawn]

I just got back from Costco Duluth

[jaunty ice]

I need something for the orb that can pour, won’t shatter, and the coffee won’t squirt out the sides. I’m happy I got to see Brian Quan struggle with it 😂

[desert dawn]

Houston has a huge coffee scene compared to Atlanta. The distributor for Stronghold North America plus other products is i Houston

[gaunt gulch]

Next time you're there will you check and see if they kimbap is there

[desert dawn]

Costco?

Is it frozen?

[jaunty ice]

Do you like the bhfm kimbap?

[desert dawn]

It’s not currently on their same day delivery so I assume out

[gaunt gulch]

Yeah

[gaunt gulch]

Bhfm?

[desert dawn]

I have both the pro and the wand. I have not gotten the skill down with the wand. Probably only used it three times. I don’t mind the pro but I have to use it full. Half filled doesn’t work

[gaunt gulch]

Btw my friends wife loving her machine

[jaunty ice]

Buford hwy farmers market

[gaunt gulch]

Do they have a frozen one or the one they sell in the marketplace?

[jaunty ice]

They sell behind the Asian food with the rice cakes and dumplings and also in the food court area where I buy their amazing tacos

[desert dawn]

They used to have fresh rolls at h mart near the kimchi area but I didn’t look yesterday

[jaunty ice]

We don’t eat pork so we buy their beef kimbap and we like to heat it on the stove covered in egg. Not sure if that’s sacrilegious or not

[gaunt gulch]

Yes! I like them but the frozen ones are good for my boys. I shot myself in the foot a bit wanting my kids to eat real Korean food and now I'm stuck buying them loads of gimbab and making metric shit tons of bachchan and fish cake LOL

[gaunt gulch]

Nah, the frying the slices in egg is classic

[gaunt gulch]

The ones at the stalls tend to be better than the ones that they sell inside. H Mart

[desert dawn]

I ordered Squeaky HOM aroma displays and they filled out the declaration paperwork wrong. So I had to pay 20% tariff on item value and shipping

[gaunt gulch]

That looks fun as hell!

[desert dawn]

Ya. But my landed cost is now 2x

They won an award earlier this year for best new product. They keep the grinded aroma fresh for a long time trapped in there so I thought it could be a fun. We need to show the city coffee is different.

[jaunty ice]

This is good. You are a good father.

[gaunt gulch]

But they can't use chop sticks for shit lol

I thought of saying here's a bowl of gummy bears. You can have as many as you can get with chop sticks in one minute

[jaunty ice]

I think they’ll get it if you and your wife use them

[gaunt gulch]

Holy shit!

[jaunty ice]

NOICE

that's super H mart?

[gaunt gulch]

This is doraville

[plush sinew]

> me, quickly telling myself I need to start buying frozen ones b/c holy smokes what an incredible emergency meal/snack/I'll-eat-it-til-i-explode to always have on hand in the freezer.

freezers. what a miracle technology.

But yeah, also for the kids... or whatever

😛

[nova wadi]

Mission accomplished!

[gaunt gulch]

Now the difficult music of a travel cup

[nova wadi]

Any of yall golf by chance

[cedar olive]

🙋‍♂️

[jaunty ice]

🙅‍♂️

[desert dawn]

Negative

[jaunty ice]

Career skill if you have clients right?

[desert dawn]

Counter top blend.

Wife: “it’s green. Taste like green peas” 🫠

[jaunty ice]

I missed the getachew it was supposed to be tops

Just picked up a bag from. Hydrangea

[desert dawn]

This bag is from when he switched to the larger roaster so it’s def basically underdeveloped

I don’t remember if it’s an OTL. Do those get labeled ?

[cedar olive]

Pretty sure I had those bags from the same roast @desert dawn - what do the labels show

[jaunty ice]

Haven’t seen

[desert dawn]

Will check and report back

[gaunt gulch]

I'm on sabbatical

[nova wadi]

Yeah I hardly ever play anymore because of the kids

Was just curious

[cedar olive]

Any of yall aviary subscribers 😂

That freezer sale is intriguing but will sell out quick

[jaunty ice]

I subscribed for 2026, never had a bag before

If it’s a timed sale in all likelihood I’ll miss out

[cedar olive]

I think his roasts with the p3000 will be a lot more consistent

I haven’t had an aviary coffee since 2024

[nova wadi]

I’m subbed for 2026

I was able to buy a box of
018 - San Jerónimo Miramar earlier this year

[cedar olive]

How was

Although, it probably wasn’t on the p3000

I’d love to try some of the coffees he’s releasing in the freezer sale on the new roaster

[nova wadi]

It was really good but definitely not bana light

[cedar olive]

Well yall will have to let me know how it is!

[nova wadi]

Which one would you want

[cedar olive]

10, 11 or 12 all sound awesome - I’d definitely shoot for those if you’re interested in picking up a coffee. Heard a ton of good things about Nancy Mendoza (10) and Lino Rodriguez (11) green quality

Baho Rwanadans are usually bangers

[desert dawn]

I’m subbed for 2026. Also, I have a stash in the freezer for some future fun

[cedar olive]

Dang I missed the group memo on aviary sub!!

[plush sinew]

can confirm, Lino Rodriguez A+++++

[jaunty ice]

Someone dropped out and a spot opened and I happened to see it

[desert dawn]

Maybe at our next meet up we can just do a cupping and try a bunch of coffees

[cedar olive]

Fantastic idea

[nova wadi]

That’d be fun

[desert dawn]

I’m friends with the coffee club in Cincinnati and they sent this photo from their last meet up

[nova wadi]

I know exactly what I’d bring

This Dak White Lotus Java is so different

I also have some HS Birthday cake

[nova wadi]

I’m on it

This didn’t work for some reason

[gaunt gulch]

Lol

[gaunt gulch]

Just made ORBover but forgot the filters, didn't screw together and lost Xg water and estimated with Yg water. Wish me luck!

Oh it's dirty but not bad. Takes me back to my French press days

[nova wadi]

I need to make some ORBovers with my K6 to practice for my trip to see family next week

[gaunt gulch]

I should have

[nova wadi]

Also want to revisit the mancer method

I have yet to do that one right

[gaunt gulch]

I haven't had much success with it

[desert dawn]

Hahahaha

Did they at least respond

[nova wadi]

Left on read haha

Can’t blame a guy for trying

[desert dawn]

Acaia denied me b2b partnership. They politely said who is you, better luck next time

[cedar olive]

Flow has a good list - I screenshotted as well hahaha

[jaunty ice]

I’m definitely going to miss the drop and hesitant since I have too much coffee already

[gaunt gulch]

Can you try again with pictures of all the people brewing your coffee?

[gaunt gulch]

Those your recs?

[desert dawn]

Those are from Flow

https://www.instagram.com/carlblikecoffee?igsh=MTBkempkcWVmeTIzdg==

[nova wadi]

I’m literally just going to try to get @cedar olive some beans. My backlog is so insanely stupid

[desert dawn]

It’s good idea, but I’m still mad at them

[nova wadi]

Try bookoo

[desert dawn]

I already bought 3x Ultras 🙃

I just want the single dosers from Acaia. I wanted 3 to have on bar to dose fresh like they do at Moonwake

Reduces need of all the vials. Bonus it looks cool seeing it dose

[gaunt gulch]

But if you get in the acaia family you can hook a brother up with a USB c swap

[cedar olive]

Dude you’re a legend haha. You really don’t have to if you got stuff going on

[desert dawn]

Haha. Of course

[nova wadi]

I gotchu

Or at least I’m going to try haha

[jaunty ice]

No, I've never had aviary before

@nova wadi posting here because I don't want to be mean but obsessing over coffee beds is one of my pet peeves

[nova wadi]

Haha I don’t think it matters at all I just know mine are always good so I try to help when I see people ask about it

[jaunty ice]

I usually smell the beds, I'm not sure if it's meaningful but sometimes when they smell amazing I wonder if the beans had more to give

i'm 20:82-86

[nova wadi]

I generally do 22:82 but I almost always overshoot my water

Been meaning to try 20

[gaunt gulch]

I haven't been able to make 1:5 work but I'm seeing that a lot

[nova wadi]

Yeah same

[jaunty ice]

I'm too afraid to mess up something that's working 😅

[nova wadi]

Welp I went a little wild. Snagged 10,11, and 12. I have no self control

Happy to bring any to a cupping

Im officially sticking to my buy ban

new year new me

[jaunty ice]

That was unpleasant

I had 19 and 11 but couldn't figure out which address to ship it to, 19 and 11 disappeared while I was trying to calculate shipping time

[nova wadi]

Since I wasnt going to buy any and went a little hog wild, I'm thinking I bring them to our next meetup and we can try them and yall can take some with you

[cedar olive]

^legend

We should set a date soon!

[jaunty ice]

I’ll have to see what aviary 2026 is like and see what Bana is fussing about

[cedar olive]

Omg I just got that last reservation hahaha

So I’m with you all

[daring flare]

Defrosting time :))))

[daring flare]

Buy ban now nonexistent

[nova wadi]

Let’s go!!

[nova wadi]

I might have a problem

[daring flare]

dude same i have so much coffee as a backlog

not to mention stuff in aussie not even shipped yet

[nova wadi]

Woah haven't heard of offshoot

[daring flare]

theyre a roaster in Perth Australia, i work with them quite often

[nova wadi]

I want to go to Australia so bad

Posted my backlog on my new insta. I feel so exposed

[daring flare]

i havent done one of those in a minute hahha

bags are scattered everywhere, across countries etc.

probably enough to line my whole apartment

[gaunt gulch]

Ha me too

[desert dawn]

Unfortunately I’m not as wise and am constantly trying new things. The suffering is real. Was up late last night working on a new recipe for 20g PO

[gaunt gulch]

It doesn't violate the buy ban if it ships after the buy ban is over

[gaunt gulch]

For cafe?

I need hashtags, cafe/home

[nova wadi]

Dude how are you drinking coffee that late

[desert dawn]

ATM everything is with cafe in mind. I am doing a private event at the end of next month so thinking about new things

[gaunt gulch]

Why 20g?

Better operations or quality?

[desert dawn]

Kids. Schedule to work is wack. So I tasted tasted till I was yawning 🥱

[nova wadi]

Haha that’s love of the game right there

I thought I drank coffee late

[desert dawn]

Two reasons.

-This event will be served tasting style. Live pour overs where you come up, talk, enjoy, taste samples back to back. If you like anything I’ll fill up your cup. So will need more yield

-I am on the stainless steel v60 it only comes in an 02 size and the hole on the bottom is dbl the size. So flow is way faster making smaller doses less forgiving.

15g I really have to pay attention or grab the oh shit handle melodrip

[gaunt gulch]

Lol

Ugh Hario! V60 TITANIUM DRIPPER｜COFFEE｜HARIO Co., Ltd. https://global.hario.com/product/coffee/dripper/VDTI.html

[desert dawn]

So I think having a 15g and 20g recipe is worth it. But I’m treating the 20g dose differently.

1st pour 60g bloom, 30s
2nd pour @30s 80g bloom
3rd pour @60s 200g center pour till 260-280g Then start pouring gentle circles to incorporate everything till 300g. Then go back to center pour till 340g

Ya I saw that. I went with SS because it comes in silver and black. So allows me to have two separate setups for two different coffees no cross contamination of flavor. Helpful for when access to sinks is limited

So I have a silver v60 and silver dosing cup, then blk dosing cup and blk b60

[gaunt gulch]

Ugh 0/2. I just dumped non-heated water into my orb for my second cup. Really winning today

That's what you meant by lower temp water bloom today @desert dawn

[desert dawn]

Just don’t plunge. Come back tonight you’ll have cold brew hopefully

@jaunty ice coffee bed porn

[jaunty ice]

/r/pourover post does this look good? did I do it right?

[desert dawn]

No no they would eat me alive

I tried to help someone about a month ago on there and I think there response was like did you read the post??

[gaunt gulch]

@jaunty ice the a4z is battery?

[jaunty ice]

It’s the best when op replies all hostile like

[jaunty ice]

Yes. User replaceable with standard size should they fail. It’s kind of great not having to use a cord.

[desert dawn]

Wow didn’t know that. Game changer

That an ikape or whatever it’s called for espresso on the go

[jaunty ice]

The A5 has battery and non battery versions but battery doesn’t last as long

[desert dawn]

I see

[jaunty ice]

A4z is slow but I think that’s part of why it’s good since rpms are low

[desert dawn]

Slow is fine

[gaunt gulch]

How long does it last on charge

[jaunty ice]

It’s on sale for $380 for the next .3 days I kinda want to buy another and pick it up in February

[jaunty ice]

I charge it infrequently. The coffee chronicler reviewed a4z and a5 and he tested how many times you could grind it. I’ve forgotten but I plug it in once or twice a month when it’s convenient.

https://coffeechronicler.com/femobook-a4z-a5-review/

[desert dawn]

Don’t bait me to find reasons to buy more eq

[gaunt gulch]

Holy cow

[jaunty ice]

I have a few gripes. It’s easy to knock over, the catch cup sides are thick, it has trouble with doses over 25g as coffee gets stuck in the wipers. But it’s quite good and I love that it’s battery powered.

Stability review: #1394721683193069659 message

[jaunty ice]

I apologize for smacking your future zp6

[gaunt gulch]

Ha no this is for brother in law. Zp6 is perfect for my use case

[cedar olive]

I lurrrrv my A4Z

[jaunty ice]

Gonna travel with it for the first time new years week

[gaunt gulch]

To visit the in laws?

[nova wadi]

If I could go back I might pick up one of those over my DF64

[jaunty ice]

In laws for CNY in feb, headed to see my family in Sacramento for jan 1 week

[desert dawn]

How much coffee have you ran through the MPs

[nova wadi]

Not sure exactly but I did do 5 lbs of seasoning beans

[jaunty ice]

After Seasoning a grinder at home family treats you differently

[nova wadi]

I started doing it in my kitchen and quickly realized that it was not going to work out that way

So I took it down to the garage and used a leaf blower to clean it off

[jaunty ice]

I was going to ask if anyone was familiar with Steady hand pour house, a specialty coffee shop near Emory that opened and then closed not too long after we moved here

So I’m using Google to see what happened. One of the owners is Dale Donchey who opened Spiller Park. I had a cup there while on jury duty last month. It was drinkable.

Jordan Chambers the other owner apparently owns Larakin which I’m aware of but haven’t been to yet

[jaunty ice]

man I wish this was a bit closer

[sharp jasper]

Honestly I have had such hit and miss luck with coffee shops, but y'all are giving me hope about the ones here. Portrait was the best I've had in ATL so far, but I've only had a handful of places. Not sure if I can even recall all of them.

Admittedly, I am usually chasing espresso or espresso based drinks and not anything else.

Also, after a week of instant Partners coffee or cruise ship coffee, I'm looking forward to getting back to the mainland. I was in the mountains in the Dominican Republic and the coffee scene was sad. Even passed a farm that grew coffee, but apparently they mostly grow to sell to bulk buyers. Not craft coffee distribution.

[Insert Mr. Bean coffee gif here]

[plush sinew]

Anyone got hartsfield airport tricks for keeping an overtired 1yr old sane until boarding at 10pm? I'm making an orb

[sharp jasper]

https://imgur.com/gallery/how-to-wear-out-toddler-during-5-hour-airport-layover-oc-0AbkHXM

[plush sinew]

She's already refusing to walk

[sharp jasper]

Double shot of Jameson in the bottle?

[nova wadi]

God speed 🫡

[plush sinew]

Now we're talking

[nova wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/tropic-thunder-survive-gif-13081723

[sharp jasper]

The rainforest between A and B is a place I've seen families chill before. The minute suites can also be nice, but I'm not sure if they are worth it with such short time to kill.

[jaunty ice]

Eventually they start pulling their own bags

[nova wadi]

Yall seen those bags that the kids ride?

[desert dawn]

Yes. The jet kids? We got one for my daughter when she was 3. It was really to get her excited/less scared of an airplane and keep her from running away in the airport

We let her decorate it with stickers. If you get one they don’t last forever as their legs get longer. Also, you need to put some weight inside so it doesn’t tip over.

It helped keep her snacks and crap from falling under the chair too

[jaunty ice]

Anyone going to Flow this morning? I’m on breakfast duty

[desert dawn]

No, I can’t make it out.

Good luck @daring flare

[gaunt gulch]

I wish! Hope to make the next one!

[jaunty ice]

I think even if I had time to plan a trip out there my daughter has the flu and would be hard to make it, bummed though.

[gaunt gulch]

Dude something is going around!

Ugh he says to the infections disease doctor 🤦‍♂️

[jaunty ice]

You’re correct. There used to be better statewide analytics but numbers have been going up sharply since thanksgiving.

[gaunt gulch]

100% adding to GA on our trip home from tn

I pay your salary!

[jaunty ice]

No im not a state or federal employee 😆

[gaunt gulch]

Lol I'm definitely kidding

[nova wadi]

Had to go to a friends sons birthday party this morning

First soup after was heavenly

Apparently I just needed to grind coarser on my MPs

Not sure when I ended up getting so fine with it

[desert dawn]

I saw Max saying the same thing. Coarse was better

Some hot chocolate latte art. I poured from the nano pro. @jaunty ice am I pfp ready yet

[jaunty ice]

My pourovers have been sucking. I think something may have changed on my A4z? I didn’t think the burrs would season much but maybe that’s it? Coarsening up and flavors are opening up again.

[jaunty ice]

Better than I can do, I feel dumb having coffee pfp on coffee discord

[desert dawn]

I had this issue too this week. I am way coarser. However the coffee I am drinking is all rested way longer atm so maybe more soluble?

[desert dawn]

I can’t even decide on a picture

[jaunty ice]

I’m making oak leaves for some reason

Best accidental cat

[jaunty ice]

That’s where I was when bapcs discord started nagging me to get one instead of the default Mickey Mouse pants

[gaunt gulch]

@zo has been telling me this for months lol

[nova wadi]

Zo Know

[desert dawn]

Lucky guess after a couple KG

I need to play with the Ditting, but Ive been so busy. Also, its intimidating when it turns on. I feel like I'm going to drop my dosing cup in it and it will just grind that up too

[nova wadi]

How’d the cupping go? @daring flare

[daring flare]

thank you boss!

[daring flare]

sorry, died on the way home lol

initially i walked in thinking only 6 signed up. Yawning, im like ok more curated experience

Danny walks in says yeah bro no, we oversold