#Los Angeles/OC/San Diego 🌈
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I have Iceland in July. Not super excited about the food but should be fun for other reasons.
Make sure you eat the hakarl
Mmmm ammonia.
That said some of those pastries do look legit. Heard good things about the hot dogs and ice cream too.
the hot dogs and ice cream being good is classic northern europe
I don't know why all of scandinavia is like that, but it is
I think I should be able to make it!
I need help! Looking for a top tier Asian bakery in the Santa Ana area for my very discerning wife. We went to 85 degrees last time and she thought it was mid 
i like cream pan but it's japanese
Or cream pan
My friends in OC like paderia too but I think it's meh
Met Momo today apparently
Should i go to endorffeine 
I low-key want to ask him some unhinged shit and end up on his IG page
yeah, try the teddy pop
nothing special but its nice
tbh Jack is a bigger op to Derp than he ever was to Purp
Is that like an improved ver of their tonic
Im sad i dont think i have enough time later to get the cheesecake so i might just cope with endorffeine instead 
Which filter did you prefer?
I was same except on a really delicate washed. But also I like round sometimes. Was thinking same thing with sampler pack. We can just trade to make our own.
@tight gorge have you had a spro from jack recently
Idk if i should double fist today
Yeah, but I forget since it was pre his vacation. Its pretty consistent as longa s he is using Sey beans
weak
Still going to go since im on the way
pre WoC so build up your tolerance
Anajak thai justin and Rasarumah/PRD johnny are here
Jack slammed rn
perfect time to ask him dumb shit
ask for soy milk
nut free dairy free milk please
Nah i just saw bro make 2 drinks with the wrong milk and had to remake
I think my order was next too

sorry i wanted macadamia milk, not almond. i can bring some if u dont have any
Order the most expensive pour over on the bar. Have it served there. Take a sip and then ask him to add vanilla syrup and put it in a to go cup.
i just think it would be so cool to be immortalized in his page
First time unlocking large water cup here
ikea glass
40 mins later
Ive had better spro from jack before
Actually it’s getting better as it cools
when you say better.. did it taste a bit flat, when it was hot.. but you're getting more flavors when it cools ?
More flavors as it cools
It had a bite to it while it was hot but thats pretty normal
Time for a chinatown run
Going to shoot for an hour
12:30 will be there to irritate him
POG! Couch still in one piece!
Wait there’s a 3rd Frontera?
I do not plan to get into the depth of this. At the same time I do want to say this:
Obedience =/= submission
Any trainer who thinks that is utilizing an ancient and barbaric mindset.
It is extremely possible, if not easy to attain an obedient well trained dog that also exudes their great personality
Do no let your lack of willingness to train your dog be conflated with the idea of saving their personality
no I get it
my dog is leash trained and potty trained, knows tricks etc
my mom literally own a dog training/daycare store
theres dogs though that are like trained to the bone where it just rewrites their personality
I’m totally missing the joke
15g 60/60/60/60
45s interval
can also do 15g 45/45/45/45/45 45s intervals too
lmao
that is one weird hyperspecific recipe, I think its a joke
I like Amulet's recipe. Very juicy and bright. I think the 1:15 ratio is too tight and do 1:16 for body or 1:17 to gain more of what I get with my typical V60 brew
why would u want to get v60 brew when the brewers are different
its also conical v flat
There's far too many unknown variables to make any judgement. Some dogs, just like people thrive under strict regiment. I know a few people that were awful dead beat teens but when they got put into the military or volunteered themselves they cleaned up and live a more normal life.
It's still pouring water from a kettle onto ground coffee
There's differences but that doesn't mean I can't skew my results one way or another
lol 15.3g huh
Today I did Amulet's recipe on the O1 with Ondo's Strawberry coffee. I did a 1:17. The flat bottom melded the flavors more and supressed the funky backend taste that V60 can give with heavier processed coffees but the 1:17 gave me a bit more separation in flavors
Tapped out at 40 the chinatown musty air nerfed me
at that point why not use v60
I have no idea why they put 15.3 hahaha
u go to state historic park?
its roughly 1mi every loop
because V60 + heavily processed coffees = boozy after flavor.
Nah but next time
Just wanted to start the run asap since i got errands to run rn
so heavily processed coffees good on the 01?
they're probably a marathon runner, and feel the need to add those decimal places
momo from twice
ye
coferm good
anything browner i prefer on o1
Just wear some yoga pants
i should get a screenshot of that post printed onto a shirt and then wear yogapants
Might not be close enough for you
That's what I do. The mindset I subscribe to regarding PO geometry is: Flat bottom drippers are good for harmonizing and melding flavors hence great for coffees that have very tropical, more developed, or heavily processed. Conical is good for clarity and separating flavors in turn making them excel with coffees that are washed, aromatic, or roasted on the lighter end
my solution is to just rarely buy funk process
yeah I've been leaning this direction too
If I wanted my coffee to taste like feet I'd just use my sock for the filter
I used to be a big B&W and Brandywine guy last year but now I usually stop at Naturals
this was interesting read
tldr funk is from artifical flavoring not always fruit coferment
Did you see that there was a post on the sub where Perc admitted to adding artifical flavorings in their coferments?
Every time I go there my blood pressure raises at the thought of McCourt being allowed to build his idiotic Gondola at the front of the park
We really are going full circle on the flavored coffee
Thought this is old news
it is but people forget
i thought that shit was scrapped
this is why zp6 is king
Our city and nation continues to pander to the few wealthy than the masses who actually matter 
anything bad and I just wash it
I'm ahead of the game
They hit a road block. But he sponsors a lot of the Chinatown cultural events and he has seemingly unlimited funds and has the city on his side despite negative environmental impact studies
they dont even have a sidewalk up to dodgers stadium :/
Broski how old is that bag???
also
I found the reddit post and Perc's comment
Thanks for the ping! YES - this coffee uses both strawberries and strawberry flavor in the fermentation. We will use the word flavor to indicate coffees where that’s the case, erring on the side of “flavor” when both are true, as with the Juicy Strawberry. We may try to draw a line between “coferment” and “infusion”. I’m working ...
Maybe a couple weeks?
Mad respect for continuing to drink kaka coffee
I like instant coffee with milk and sugar
My coworker got it for me, I feel like I have to
dip in some oreos or some other cookie
oh no
Not the "oh you're into coffee? Let me get you some coffee!" dilemma
Always..
I have a couple other bricks of coffee at home that have sat there for a year or two
my friends are like this except I got them into good coffee so they bring me something nice usually
my friends ask me when they travel if i want anything
and i tell them what roaster to get and let them pick randomly
And instead of an ice ball I use my foot
now that is the perfect situation!
My kid has learned to call all Asian girls with short hair momo. So she kept called Sherry that @desert stirrup
It's giving Dell membrane
I wanted to say it's ultra stealth office keyboard
not to me
is this way shit is just gettin funkier and funkier now a days lol
yeah
its "throw shit on the wall" until something works which ends up being a lot of heavy artifical flavoring
which is fine if it means producers get more yield tbh
ur not forced to buy it anyways
I'm hoping that oneday I can get her to call every kind dog Momo!
I think the reason why people are upset now is due to the lack of transparency. That post I linked with Perc's comment stating they'll now differentiate the words used and labelling is a good example of what roasters and producers should do I think
Looks like XHT-BDZ on the wires
its the one where they wrap it with plumbers tape
Doubt they are using “artificial” flavors but more likely naturally derived flavor additives or concentrates. Gonna be hard for even tests to know the difference if the compound is naturally occurring. Outrage about lack of transparency is justified, though. But solution is same as always: buy from trusted sources. I wouldn’t put it on regulators to figure out (cuz they won’t ultimately).
@fiery crypt just tried four pours of 60g on the O1 with the same Ondo Strawbery coffee had this morning using Amulet's recipe. I got much more body and less present acidity in this cup. The texture is noticeably thicker hot and more so when cooled. Acidity is playing second fiddle or background notes hot and as it cools. Amulet's recipe is not as thick (I stretched the ratio from a 1:15 to a 1:17 because I don't enjoy high TDS filter brews so that could be the culprit onto why I found the texture to be lesser with this recipe) however acidity is front and center. It's juicy and salivating. I find the cup with Amulet's recipe lingers more between sips.
So it depends on what you want and are looking for! Both are good!
Now that’s some transparency! Did you get those subtle Nutella notes in the background?
I love Perc generally, but that added word just makes me think: why’d you buy/sell this coffee then?
but whats your water though lol
there are some studies done - via GCMS testing, on even competition coffee, that show non-natural additives present in some coffees
Guess they’ll do it til they get caught. I personally don’t really care if they’re “natural” or not if they are still additives. I’ll even drink them, but I just don’t wanna pay that much money for them.
this is from ennio cantergiani who studied it
melonal is not found naturally but was found in this comp sample
this is a ppt presentation that he gave on it
yes, i have nothing against additives/infusions etc, its more about the transparency - i suspect some farmers are doing it to increase profits when you taste/smell xyz in whatever 'normal' coffee it would be
I use RO water then remineralize post brew with Decent's dropper beta v2
Flavored coffees like that smell but don't taste like the thing. So it smells intensely of hazelnut and tastes of not much
I did 3 drops of N (clarity focused) + 1 drop of T (hinders bitterness) + 1 drop of Silica Dioxide
So to convert to Apax I guess that would be 3 drops of Tonik + 1 drop of Jamm + 1 drop of Silica Dioxide
That's my guess at least, I've never used Apax droppers
I think Perc roasts too dark. I also think both Reddit and EAF discord have their own ebb and flow of roasters that are dominating their respective zeitgeist. After maturing in this hobby I think EAF tends to recommend better but also more expensive roasters. I find EAF goes for the ultra light and aromatic focused roasters while Reddit just wants flavor punch which is why Dak's milky cake, Perc's latest ethiopian, and B&W The Future is often omnipresent.
But does you dog bite the leash and start jumping like a goat when you go on walks
No, he's never done that
Quite frankly, I would not like any of my dogs to do that
I don't want to buy a new leash every year
When I grab the leash Momo circles me like I'm roadkill and he's a vulture
Right, that’s what I mean when I say I didn’t want to train my dog to heel
I like that wild thang
Momo knows heel yet isn't constrained to that position on walks
Heel is just used when the position is necessary
Luna also jumps at me when I get home. I like that
Anddd that’s the core of the differences imho
Agreed. Perc is very hit or miss with me, but I guess I appreciate the boldness (also biased cuz they are based where I lived). I wish I was more into their blends, cuz always trying to find my "everyday" coffee (and their good sales). I love funk, but I don't always want fruity funk, if you know what I mean.
Momo does that to me and I like that so I allow it
I taught Momo that jumping and hugging others is not allowed unless they give consent by saying the command "hug" and having their arms out to receive the hug.
I find the pure excitement and energy that Momo shows when I come home absolutely lovely and heartwarming. It was a large factor on why I wanted to get a dog over a cat. I wanted to be welcomed with love and excitement and happiness no matter what happened that day. To this day, no matter what happens, I still smile and get giddy with anticipation of Momo being all excited and happy that I'm home.
I would like to reiterate once again: Discipline =/= submission
I view dog ownership as a partnership not a hierarchy.
Every serious dog trainer I have worked with and shadowed also treasures the cooperative bond man has with dog. It's genuinely a beautiful sight
Dog ownership and dog training has made me a more patient and empathetic man. I look forward to the day I have children for many reasons. One of them is how I know because of the relationship I have with my dog (and future pack of dogs!) I will be a far better and warmer father than my father was to me
Idk what nonfruity funk is!
Also for those everday work horse coffees I tend to buy 2lb or 5lb bags from a roaster I like. That being Driftaway, Isle, Passenger, Tandem, or potentially Ondo if he ever sells larger bags (please @cedar otter !). Those larger bags allow me to dial in different styles or profiles of spro without much worry of running out of beans any time soon
That way for at least a month or two I'll be able to get a good shot of whatever style whenever I have the itch or company is over
More winey/herbal, I guess, less jammy, like a sherry or a vermouth rather than a pinot noir. I want a normal natural for the fruitiness.
I'll add them to the list! Thanks. Partner needs his milk drinks but also doesn't want too dark, so can be challenging to dial in sometimes.
Exactly. Which is why I ❤️ me my Kenyans perhaps even more than a well-done natural
I really like this coffee from S&W: https://www.swroasting.coffee/product/papua-new-guinea-jiwaka-arufa-natural/61?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=false&q=false&category_id=2
Light bodied and very clean, with graham, caramel and mixed berries in the cup. This is unlike any PNG I've ever tasted, and our lightest roast ever offered. If you like the Pink Bourbon, you'll love this one too! Roasted on our Stronghold S9X. At 3 weeks, I do not think it has completely opened up, and I expect the flavors to develop more as it...
When I dialed it in with spro it exuded graham cracker and caramel with some good acidity
That's an insanely good price
Super fucking good as a milk drink too
A cortado or cappuccino with this tastes like your milk was graham cracker infused overnight
S&W has great prices!
They do charge shipping on all orders because they believe in not incorporating shipping costs into the bean prices but even then it's still very well priced!
hi all got recomended this space and discord from fb market place
Price is even better if you use “Redditor15off”
S&w rocks
I was just thinking about this the other day. If Roscoe and Ollie didn’t jump on me when I got home I’d start to resent them 
sey house already looking busy and WoC hasnt started yet

also I need a dealer for the caffeine pills, if you have some lmk
Do you want more caffeine or less? 😏 hit me up and I’ll give you some of the reducing supplements. Can I just pop into Sey and shove a handful of beans into a ziploc?
is there any actual analysis that says it's artificial flavoring?
come take this beagle here who does not give a fuck about what others want
Yep someone did a study here
I hope that person told you the LA thread is 80% food talk, 10% goofin around, 10% coffee
Don’t you lie to me derp..
Ask Perry we saw momo
perry jr swears it was momo
im almost tempted to run any beans i get from woc through a GCMS as well..
and LCMS
Imma jkm real quick
We almost got a beagle but I’ve heard wild stories 
they said they made some great friends
I was thinking about buying a profitech go from them
still torn on first "big home barista" espresso machine.
Idk if you want my opinion on that but on 4/27 at 7pm some of us are heading to heavy handed in silver lake to eat good food and drink good beer. Do come by if you fancy
We may even walk to the window afterwards
If we peer pressure geezer @vivid violet enough we may get him him to swoo Ms. Knafeh so we all get free knafeh and tea
tbh this one ain't too bad. stubborn is all
I need full compliance
she is pretty awesome. and the knafeh is delicious
You don't need to go big either
@split shale , are you thinking of selling your profitec go ? 😅
definitely, welcome to the channel buddy. hope we can be of some help.
Piano player? Lol
Sure I'll lock in on the calendar, should be fun
What's the LA hot take on Madlab, I usually like fruity/sweeter cofffee drinks but for espresso Ive always like dark-dark so the fruity espresso shots from MadLab are kind of new
banana split at fluffy mccloud or QS cake afterparty???
Dang im not heading there for another hour
Where u staying
Hitting up tacos el gordo and will get water and beer
Yeh. @nimble blaze (and anyone) is welcome to come over and play with one
who's more compliant here? hard to say
Think its like 25 mins away from WoC dont remember the exact area
Tijuana
Woc SD fomo. Lol
I wish
Taco stand > tacos el gordo
Is that controversial
Look who I ran into
Which taco stand?
Huh never been
Its solid
Nothing crazy
There’s some locations in oc not sure if they’re as good as this one
that would be amazing im trying to buy my first machine so thanks!
Good thing about fellow es1. Brick and mortar carry it. So should be easier to return if it doesn't work out
What time are you guys heading over in the morning @tight gorge @cedar otter ? I’m probably gonna hit the road between 445 and 5 to be there before 8
@compact hound I vouch for this. It's good.
Debating going to sey before 10. For sure you can catch me at moonwake at 10 do
I’ll do a roll call of who’s around in the morning but don’t wanna get caught up in a long badge line so I’ll probably head there first thing unless I need some sey to start the day 🤩
That's my plan too lol
just a reminder artemis 2 will land off the coast of sandiego at like 5pm tomorrow too
Seeing more seyhouse content gets me turned off
Why didnt they keep it rsvp based 
I’ll still check it out but expectations have been lowered
Someone at the company got nervous about the expense?
it's arguably more accessible for those who're wanting to be enthusiasts and/or are enthusiasts and don't want to spend 300 bucks but also will be turned off by exclusivity
I get that but it looks so chaotic you can barely enjoy it
go to the one on upas street or convoy street. order online to not have to stand in line.
that's fair
not sure of LA take but Andrew is good people
and that in itself is worth a visit
I only know of him from his instagram tirades. Probably not the best representation of him, but he made a choice 
"free shipping" also means you pay more in taxes which is cool 🙃
I hope you guys are wearing signs with your discord usernames 🤣
That would have been smart... I'm wearing a bright green Hoffee Coffee shirt so I should be easy to spot
Decent parking anywhere down here that doesn’t cost a fortune?
@tight gorge where you parking ?
No idea
10 bucks for 12 hrs right across from the convention center
Lot seems safe and plenty of cameras around as well, decent amount of spots, it’s 25-30 at the convention center.
Lots of charging ports around SD but most are in garages
Gonna pick up my badge and see how packed sey is
$10 works for me
Badge pick up everywhere and the doors are at exhibit hall E so if you’re getting dropped off go there so you don’t have to walk forevers
Scan and print for badges easy and quick took roughly 2 minutes
Could have had one of us pick you up haha
Quick pitstop before woc
Haha it’s me and my buddy from the airbnb
Sey house looked nice from video
pre-game for the weekend / coffee version in San Diego
busy weekend ahead~~
@rikkafikacafe
@poma.coffee
@fincasoledadintag
@seycoffee
@tacoselgordo_
#vlog #worldofcoffee #sandiego #coffee
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True coffee degen 🫡
I always want to do it
Going to hit up rikka fikka
If anyone wabts to go to long beach GP today you can get free ticket with TACO25 code
Line looked long as I drove by right now
I still need to get my badge fml
My theory is that it may clear out once the floor opens?
This feels so 
How’d you get one of those G-Mails?
Bruh why is there a line outside sey house
have never seen a barista with a business card lmao
looks good tho
Get that jeep out of there. You could fit a roaster in the space it takes up.
Sey House philosophy: 400 brewers, 4 kettles
You here?
Getting my badge rn
@cedar otter thats a nice bag man
My fomo is off the charts
@compact hound is that ATT taco spot open for lunch too?
@dull adder 🦑
the resolution on that pic is crazy
Chilling with Ray from melodrip
Where does that cloak rate on the drip scale? He’s Cozy-maxxing 
Step 5 in dialing in reverse is to Benjamin button yourself to shrink down inside your clothes and taste the coffee as a child for max clarity
Going to September booth
Close nuff
Where is @tight gorge? I keep checking the bathrooms but I don’t see him
Don’t tempt me and @compact hound with a good time of gluttony
Majority of people here are light roast drinkers on all style of coffees buuuuuuuuuut last I checked MadLab had some Santa Monica Colombian coferments.
I don’t like anything from Santa Monica’s farm quite frankly. I don’t like how he coferments almost all of his harvest. I think it’s a way to cash in on the crazy flavor hype while also turning over poorly grown product. S&W had his beans as a washed process for a bit (maybe they still do). I found it to be not good. Furthering my suspicions that he’s cofermenting to cover up a poor seasons yield.
is this berkeley coro?
think you tagged the wrong sloth.. prob meant @compact hound
glad y'all are having a great time at WoC !
I suspect there are at least 4 Allen Trans there, and two Ondo-mans.
Lol. There's supposedly 3 Allen Trans.
I'm not sure who's the 3rd.
We can't all exist in one place at once
The multiverse implodes
That 9.9 earthquake finally about to hit California and erupt the volcano under Yellowstone
Great. I'm gonna OD on caffeine
Lance-splainin’ to an Allen
Oxo has a booth?
@tight gorge ragebaiting lance 
How was the Moii Alo Dark Room Dried cupping? 👀
Correct. This is Berkeley CoRo
“What are your thoughts on the vectis?”
“I was thinking of buying one for sprovers with my niche zero”
Drug dealing
Mans on cheat code over here lol
Where’d you get those beans 👀
who’s going to World Of Coffee San Diego
If you scroll up most of the pictures today are from there.
what's the o/u of people doing WOC to Coachella
Tell me you brought the anti-shaking pills
How was the Lance soup
It's not enough
Did all of you guys buy the three day pass
I feel like ima miss so much just going sunday
Also one more questions , are those small bean samples free lol
He asked how much Saka pays him to shill their coal? 
At September trying Jose Jijon
i have a 3 pm tasting reservation at a booth whose name i forgot 
He died doing what he loved
Def looks like a lot of fun
Pretty close tbh
Tell me where the samples at!
I’m out! Here my pic with the god shot guy
teddyyyyy
i have no idea who this dude is. but he looks cool.
@dull adder
Same! people being stingy with they coffees
Night swim at te end of 3600 is brewing a killer geisha on spro best Ive had today
Great to meet you!
Munvna interchangeable head..
There are samples at the sworks booth, but someone did take 50 bags 🙂🫵
Likewise!
Likewise, no to glaze but you had the best cup for me today
@tight gorge what you degens doing for dinner? Asking for @mellow sonnet and i
Tijuana tacos for me!
Nice to meet you guys and air out my cheeze-its coffee grief
@tight gorge
FYI, Free beer at the Creative booth
Man, someone set fire to the True Religion in Ontario Mills this morning and the mall is still shut down. Sort of crazy.
There was another fire set in a warehouse in Ontario this week.
I guess they atleast caught the guy doing it this time
Agreed to the one day is all you need. Who all is looking to meet up for food?
And @cedar otter you need a ride anywhere vice uber
I was going to have ramen with @placid cradle
@tight gorge you actually going to TJ ? Or just a local joint?
Actually, just finished eating 
@mellow sonnet you still floating about or eaten yet ?
Am in my hotel getting stuff put away but need dinner soon prob
Was that the toilet paper one?
Yes
Yea let's figure out dinner plans socal eaf folks
But quiet as hell
Also @bitter kestrel the 💊 plug. Those things work!
what hours did you get there and head out. still thinking if i should go or not on Probably sunday...
exhibit hall opens at 10am, but not sure what else.
friday is fresh, and i guess sunday is day 3
I had just enough decaf to balance out
I will say theres one thing I did confirm, most places are cutting deals for gear on Sunday 😭but im glad I still came today. Nicest day of the weekend lots of fun times
Timemore and muvna said they sell lost everything they had
Probably has the most selection though
They made what puqpress did with the distribution tool for 55 bucks
And worked better
I don’t know man. I feel like I skipped the wrong one. WOC looks way more fun than coffee fest
Forgot to go back and grab it, also had two new scales, conical grinder, and a damn espresso machine that pulled great shots.
Wanted to find the wpm prints but wasn’t there but another no name company had a clone
Was the opus 2 there? Curious about the 48mm burrs and if you can slap option os in there
Fuck coffee fest that hasn’t been the same since it left the reef building
I’ve been twice. Both were meh
But didn't see if you could put moonshine in there the opus 2 lol
Opus 2 is very plasticky
@mellow sonnet abd anyone else still around when and where anyone wanna go eat?
The body of the opus flexed so much when you adjusted the grind dial 💀
Me
So me, derp @short condor - who else wants dinner later?
2018 coffeefest was bombastic so fun so much money went it into it and it was like expo but after they all fell off and then there’s the knockoff one and they teemed up with the food shit and went downhill fast
Sey house at 9 left at 330pm. All gas no food.
Ohhh
I only went to coffee fest 2022 or 2023
And yeah. The other side is like food samples
It was pretty much entirely frozen pastries and syrup venders.
I met a couple contacts to buy greens from. Not much else came from it. I learned how to roast coal with mill city, I guess
So many old 60-70 year olds holding on for dear life trying to sell you shit no one wanted just to earn the free sample
And took a latte art class that was actually a pitch for Pacific barista oat milk.
Glad I paid them for that
Met lumi guy, bigger character than his ig stories
Mason?
walked to the event with him and Lance and BK. Had some juicy stories
Yeah, had a hot take for everything
Had a “super rare” nomad Yemen at the play booth. Then a guy came in and told them it was super under extracted 💀
i’ll see all you guys sunday !!
I went to the coffee fest last year
It was super fun like a hangout, I feel like this expo is more like trying amazing things
There's not that many amazing things...
what would you rate it ?
It's nicer to be able to connect with people and talk about coffee. Many times the brew isn't all that.
Hanging out and connecting
The expo is like a super concentrated IRL of all the cofeee things you have read about while in the hobby
More fun talking to lance, Sheldon, Kyle, etc.
Or giving feedback to Doug Weber and zerno vel
Lol
Was Carlos from meticulous there?
@glossy sail @mellow sonnet when you guys wanna eat I need food or I might die and a place to charge my damn car the mass of fast chargers are in a 20 dollar lot which is bullshit
What about non Tesla
Use an adapter 
Tbh go north get out of the downtown area and then find a charger in a free parking lot
Do They have em there 🙃
I’m searching the maps and everything is in apartments or hotels or country clubs for charge point
Go to clairemont
I got about a hundred miles on the car but with the hills out here that’s more like 70
I have an ICE car... Sorry
I charged up before the last 15min I got to downtown bc downtowns are always shit
Yeah I may eat the 20 and go wait there while we decide food. I need to eat haven’t had anything but a bagel and affogato and coffee smoothie 🤩
Oh. I thought you'd survive till dinner time lol
On my tears maybe
And coffee beans but I don’t think that’s conducive to my wellbeing ahah
Crunch on some beans
Any sey shills at the convention?
Sey shills are all at sey house
After sey house I think we’re all shills to some degree.
Yeah met some major shills there
Also made sure the oxo people knew who really created the soup recipe @tame laurel
Tacos el Franc was good
Nice
How were the brews there
It was self serve at sey house. I had a coffee buyer make mine tho and it was nice. Peru sl9
Buyer who introduced Lance to kamavindi
Ooh nice
Kinda rare to get good coffee at a coffee event like that
With Sey hopefully good roast so all that’s left is water + brewing
Lance h soup was nice too
What did he soup on
I met the Sey Lance at expo couple years ago but he was in and out mostly doing business things instead of talking to hobbyists as you can guess
But still good soup at 1:15
Are you doing more days
yeah he didn’t come this year
I think Saturday is the busiest day so usually all the swag and such is gone by Saturday noon
One day on the floor is more than enough imo but outside events sound better this time
Nah just today. Felt good while leaving.
In Chicago I went to a bunch. In Houston only the LM party
LM party was crazy, you see what all the normie/redditor LMLM money goes to
Free party with 2 free drinks per person
yeah can’t make it, otherwise I would go to that
Just gotta show expo badge and then in Houston you had to register online for free. Due to capacity I think. Had like a 1 hr wait. In Chicago was straight walk in when they opened
You’re def not missing out on anything heh. Glad you got to check it out
I’d go again if driving distance for sure
Social part + seeing famous coffee people walking around was great
I remember drinking some Nestor lasso coffee and the person serving it said, you know he’s right over there. And there he was lol
Yeah that was fun, yelling hooooon from across the hall
heh
You also see where the monarch/sourthern weather money goes
They were serving shockingly good batch brew when I went must be the absolute lightest end of their stuff
Extravagant booth like massive. Looked like an Apple Store
Worst coffee was a spro form the 2025 us barista champion from dune lmao
Worst coffee is hard to say at those events. So many contenders
They squashed the beef? 👀👀
I was also shocked lmao
Apparently masons new beef is with the fellow engineer, who we bumped into while going to the event. Awk 2 min exchange
😂
Beef over the grinder or the es1 or both 
Dude is a riot
Charging by the midway ain’t bad 9bucls an hr for parking but only need 45 minutes so should be good to go
Fellow makes good products that involve no moving parts I feel like
My machine my firmware
I don't mind locked firmware but I wish brands would opensource it when they decided to stop providing updates
Why is everything a bar in Downtown San Diego 
@dull adder and I crashed a party at Puesto in Seaport Village. Free drinks and tacos.
Which one
We might go to ballast point or pizza port
@mellow sonnet @glossy sail when you wanna eat and what area ?
Uhhhhh down for anything really
What area of SD you in?
Im like right above the 5 freeway
ah, the gaslighting district, where anything is possible.
Seafood, burgers, tacos, noodles, pizza, or mystery meat
I don't want to eat in the gaslamp though lol
Let's go north first and then figure something out
Just tell me where to go then, I need something edible 😭
Little Italy, North park, midway district, hillcrest? How far north
Convoy area
The street lol
Be on the street in 2
Not bad but i drank too much last night
Woke up hella bloated
Alright fellas where to?
My dead grandmother responds faster than this 😭 I’m over here when you guys be ready.
how much time
Any cool after parties worth going?
No 
@devout atlas uhh, this is crazy. I just now realized you started all of this.
yeahhh so the padres did a thing
Yes
Are you at expo? We ran into guys from Intelligentsia
Yep. Just got in. Will be around tomorrow and Sunday
They had the metal prototype. Lame that they were cagey about it releasing to the public
Pump hot water through plastic into metal 🤔
I love ORB but what does that resolve?
So you get extra microplastics in your brew 😋
They said they can’t make it glass due to the pressure. But I thought the pressure was quite low
Make the column metal so you can have no plastic
If melodrip can do it they can too
Some Frankenstein shit to fulfill the need of 4 people
Stainless melodrip confirmed??
Yes
Yep
Sometime this year no date
Fuck yeah
Ray is cool guy he needs to come to our LA meets
So do I 
There's going to be a new colum version?
Yeah in a decade or so
Any hint on the price point of the metal melodrip?
More pics please
More pics of what haha
The power of three can never be 🧙♀️
Probably 50 bucks
got half dome resy yay
Since they have to go down to the steel factory to check it out
Uh it's going to have a new updated ring and he's not going to sell the bottom piece anymore and it'll be a better fit on other drippers as it was always intended
So you can colum other drippers with less leakage on the ring design
I would be pleasantly surprised with 50. I was guessing much more. Like 70-90. I wasn't sure how complicated this thing would be, if it was stamped or actually CNC
any takers for an adorable kitten? neighbors have been fostering her, can confirm just as cute irl. dunno if you're set on that british shorthair @mellow sonnet 😅 https://www.adoptapet.com/pet/47616296-cerritos-california-cat
Can confirm. 30% off most stuff at our booth on Sunday
The True Coffee Fest Experience
I gave you a shout out at the booth 😂
Danielle is really nice and funny
🫰
Oh and the Horizon cannot be used on a pour over brewer haha
But maybe don't repeat that. I heard higher ups were not wanting people to experiment a bunch at the booth
It was funny to see the liquid go up the walls of the brewer
Weather is just right today
San Diego 
I was thinking about it this morning and wondered why there wasn’t a lagom P80 at the sey event. Had the 01 but that was about it for Lagom I think.
Absolutely loved the Z2 with red speed CVS they were great, slightly difference in the silver knight but only had two brews for comparison.
Probably gonna end up grabbing one this year, ordering this month will get you a July order according to their team.
I've been messing around with it a little. Using it on an Aeropress was funny as I had to wedge my hand into the piston to keep it from retracting
They were told to stick to 1 minute and not do 2 minutes. Was that a duty cycle thing?
It needs a rigid container that will seal properly. I have an old December Dripper that could potentially work
IME it's a flavor thing. There's a bit of a sweet spot
If you let it sit too long the aromatics fall off again. I like around 30-60 seconds for peak aromatics on the coffees I've tested
It seemed like if they couldn’t be the ones to show it they didn’t want people really doing anything with it. I’d guess due to people having so many questions with the variables, but definitely seems like something geared more competition usage than cafe or even home use IMO.
ok hear me out
buy two Z2s then tape them together
Boom
Ozik The All
It was invented specifically for competition but I can see it being used in cafes. Lots of folks are looking for ways to improve high-end service. Home is a lesser use case to me but I can still see it for the same reason that people buy tasting cups, various flavors of drippers, etc. It's all about chasing flavor
Thinking of putting a cardboard box around it too and calling it the “OHSICK” CB2
1 hr wait at rikka fika
Didn’t mention it yesterday but timemores espresso machine was fun to use and solid build quality for 1.5-2k price point. The coffee was ok for the shot but the shot was nice and had texture. Comes with a lay flat portafilter and HE basket with purchase. Very boxy looking but all black set up was nice.
Wendougee’s booth was a complete let down and clearly didn’t care to show the machine. Sounded like they were reading a Que card and didn’t know what it meant despite being who they were talking about. Didn’t even bother to pull a shot for people or discuss the pairing grinder.
And the very end of the hall there’s a hand grinder company called molomill that just launched a kickstarter and it was fun to use. Pietro competitor with similar build, was so much more pleasing to crank than the pietro but needs a lot of work and some people to join their team cough cough @desert stirrup cough cough that could maybe give good insights into things
Were you there when I was talking with Joe, the owner of espresso outlet? I basically had to pry for info..
All that was setup and just sitting there to... not be used?
PSA: Sey sourcer said this years Kenya crops are not great, but did say to buy any karimikui you see.
I've got a handful of guest badges. Feel free to DM if anyone would like one. My only catch is that I'll ask you to go to the Acaia booth and say thank you in person. 8/10 available
What was the difference between?
Same coffee, same rpm, same grind size, same brew recipe and I felt that the red speed was sweeter but I could be biased I should have had some of the others try so I could get a better idea.
I have a couple higher priority purchases to make but prob putting that z2 order in by summer
And you just gonna leave us hanging like that
My brother and I closed on a few rental properties and it’s been more of a headache than we anticipated
Yeah, plus renter rights be cray.
damn i was i thinking about asking you a few days ago
i only wanted to go yesterday though
Not crazy enough
I've never had problems with landlords. And I'm not even that anti, they provide a valuable service that I've leveraged. But too many people I know have been screwed. Part of it is just lack of knowledge and enforcement
There’s a lack of respect and decency on both sides
Two of my friends sold all their properties and vowed to never rent in CA.
But anyways, this is very tied to politics that I’ll just stop lol
"What color anodized aluminum do you want?
...
Yes." 🌈
My dad kept trying to talk us out of it 
Omg, did any of you play the piano?
One of my coworkers wants to do section 8 rentals for income and I said good luck 🤡
My fav person to talk with yesterday. Loved the cat stickers
You catch jimmy butler today?
@desert stirrup btw, had a nice chat with the Good Switch guy. But also I bought the new Hario metal switch for $5 😬 .
Hario booth is also selling metal switch tabs 💀
It’s fine until it isn’t. We just got out of that game.
Is Big Face any good? I never tried because watching Jimmy play brings me no joy so I figured his beans would have the same effect 
no its just onyx rebranded and marked up $10
Yikes. I guess I made the right call
upon further research he sources the coffee but onyx roasts it
and he gets help sourcing from onyx as well
mostly just sells blends though
He never plays anymore so he’s got a lot of time on his hands
Yeah I don’t understand why Steph is so loyal atp
I mean I'd ride it out too tbh
why bother ring chasing at this point
already goat shooter status
I wanna see him in mercenary mode
would be fun to watch tbh
he'd be cracked with literally any support
instead of kum bucket (ex) and podz
Steph to Houston once Kd has worn out his welcome
kd already has 
I know right
literally dealt with the same shit where I was helping someone and they were directly in the middle of shit talking me
that person does not get IT support anymore and theyre on the hook for falling to phishing scams so prolly gonna be forced to quit
Is it woc exclusive?
No idea
Can you grab some for us? 🙂
are the big vendors like fellow and flair? Are they selling their machines there or only accessories.
I don't think flair is here
Actually yeah
She’ll be at Rikka Fika tomorrow
Was meticulous there? 😅
At expo? No they have no presence. Except I think they coordinated with someone to have their machine at the Sey House
I don't believe so but I don't see it on their USA website
This is one of those. Not spending $60 on one
They're at booth 4226
Just heard we're doing Horizon demos at Sey House tomorrow at 8 AM if anyone wants to get up early
Hanging with the founder of this thread @devout atlas
Like an apostle she came to the first meetup and then left us to spread the gospel ourselves.
Saint Camille
Anyone meeting up later
Are they hiring????
If they are I’d be interested
Hell even if they aren’t I may still email them my resume and design portfolio
To be part of a team that can dethrone the Pietro would be an honor
Best part of the day
Trying to get her back. ♀️📈
Amen
Only a team of like 3 guys, maybe someone might have whispered some things about young engineers with a knack for understanding coffee and grinder 🫡
Man I’m on team “if we don’t eradicate landlords we should restrict them to a set number of properties and completely bar companies from owning residential property.”
! ! !
Too much caffeine
I will look up Molomill asap
A true hero
Yeh. Np. How many?
YO! Is he finally moving towards cast aluminum????
Sure looks like given the release points
Also a $5 price point???
someone give me a plan tomorrow, Like most see spots to try !!
Oh damn then Good Switch and Flip Switch may be donezo then
Yeaaah, but he was chill about them releasing it. And the Hario people were like, we love his product and we didn't know about it when we started working on this 🤷🏻♂️ I mean, I held both and his felt way better.
Womp womp
I am still shooketh on the $5 price point
Even with Chinese or Vietnamese labor $5 as a profitable selling point????
I wonder if he’s breaking even or taking a loss at WoC for publicity
5$ is expected for economies of scale tbh
It's a tiny piece of aluminum. And it keeps people loyal to the product who don't like the plastic.
For 5$ they should increase the base cost and sell it default though tbh
Is it from https://frinjcoffee.com/
FRINJ is a soil to cup coffee company pioneering coffee in California. By integrating every step from seedling to roast, we produce terroir driven coffees with uncommon clarity and transparency. Founded by tropical fruit farmer Jay Ruskey, FRINJ is the result of 25 years of experimentation and research with UC Davis.
I know they have a farm in CA and sell gesha trees
Yep
@whole ether have one planted. Have you ever had coffee harvest
There’s one in highlight I think been growing a few years.
Hah I bought a tree too
Hahaha I love you guys - so cool that I get to hop back in here after a year abroad, so much life & change. I’m so keen to set up another meetup sometime! 🙂
We should buy them all and start our own little farm 👀🍀
Watch, this will be HLE back in the day part 2 🤤🚀
Download the app and make sure to start the names you like, they’ll be highlighted when you open the map so you don’t have spend a lot of time looking for everything.
Survived day 2 💀
Trying to survive until the LM party
Seeing the OP tag is crazy, I never knew that existed
Crazy tag
Me neither 😇 whoever’s at WOC tomorrow or in San Diego let’s link up after the event !!!!
I'm dropping by sey house in the morning and then driving back 💀
most units from what i hear have been stalling bad
the taco stand
i should add that I adore my P100 but would never expect it to stall. i used the 01 today and that was a delight to use as well. never used a p64 but never heard anyone talk about stalling
if the taco stand was stalling bad, i suggest eating more burritos
they were mainly stalled because they were running out of al pastor faster than they could cook up more 
I haven’t seen much talk on it stalling but I don’t doubt that it’s happened. I don’t go that light with beans but I’d expect anything over the 1500 range to not stall
Time??
I’ll be here! I’m in San Diego until Monday
Like 8-10ish? Maybe later
Yeah my p100 has been flawless for spro. Kinda want PCS but I don't spro enough to justify tbh
What does the PCS do
Augur/prebreaker
Sick - what’s the address again?
who’s going to sey in the morning
1037 J Street
The morning rush is chaotic though 💀 it's so chill once the WoC people leave to the convention itself
I’ll try and head there early tomorrow then
I’m not sure if it will be there tomorrow but definitely check out the unica pro if it is
K I’ve got an interview at 8:30 but will try to make it after potentially - or at some point during the convention lol
We making MOVES bro
yeah but then why would one not just sell it as a fixed rpm grinder (i personally think fixed rpm is less guesswork)
it's really hard for the RPM to go too high. there's only so many Rajas Per Minute which the taco trucks can pump out.
Just sell at a higher rpm as base
highly recommend sey house. think of it as very similar to the first LA meetup but a bit more spread out and more people
also didn't realize 01's circuitry is such that it does a high rpm purge automatically upon clicking the knocker. twas pretty neat
and z2 is so frikkin quiet. didn't get to try brew burrs on them just LS burrs
More pics please
Fantastic, Sey just sent me some non Karimikui Kenyan in my sub
The z2 is really quiet. I think that's the most quiet grinder I've heard.
dammit. i was really trying not to buy that 😅
so.. tempting.
or not heard. and also, i did talk to Vel about it since i did have a Z1.
cool guy.
also - getting a new ozik name plate. What should i have engraved on it?
probably something like - The "REAL" Allen Tran
Yeah, much calmer today and got to brew at a relaxed pace. So I should admit to pre-judging it unfairly. I did accidentally spray someone with water from the cup rinser forgetting that the Z1 had holes in it. 😳
Tasting notes: skunk, urine, palm trees
one positive was that it wasn't very testosterone filled like it tends to be during coffee meetups
It was so quiet I didn’t know the it was still on till I went to grind again and saw it was never off 🤦♂️
same. i couldn't hear anything when i was adjusting rpm
it's only when the beans went through i was like "oh this is plugged in"
I’ll be putting some up tomorrow when I download them from my camera
BAFG
What are you shootin on btw?
Bad ass fucking grinder 🫡
i should finally try some orb soup tomorrow. never had it
Fujifilm XE4 and XE5 but I like the XE4 better oddly enough
Nice. Should of used some of the film sim presets for the convention lol
bummed I missed everyone at woc! In asheville nc and drinking an $8 pourover made on a gabi and it’s pretty meh. Is that the norm for this brewer or skill issue?
Ondo needs these signs
How are the lines at sey house? I think I’m going to pick up my badge first
If anyone is at Sey House this morning I would love to hear what you think of the Horizon. I've been doing Sey turbos at home with it
Agreed. One very nice dude from Hydrangea patiently walked me through my first XBloom.
Unfortunately December Dripper is too wide to Horizon
Best I can do at this point is do an immersion brew in like a stainless tumbler and then pour through a filter
Other weird option is the Dragon
There was a girl that was there like two months back that took up two tables while she was there. Drink and bag on one and laptop on the other. Was gonna say something as I had two drinks and no one where to sit but just took it to go instead

Is that the old dragon brewer or something else ?
Yep, Dragon
I don't think there's any reason to try a Horizon brew with it for real. I think that would actually crack the membrane early and start the drawdown
what in the chemistry experiment
A little less air than usual
I dunno. 9 out 10 times I’m there @cedar otter is working on his. 😅
I’ll put the sign up when I no longer have to work on my laptop at the shop
Went to Manhattan and saw the Sey SL9 in the window at a random shop
I knew I was incepted into getting it but wasn’t sure from where until I looked back
Broke a 6 month buyban smh
What color the box
Damn I don't remember which one that is
Sey house had all of them
Lime green one my fave but they all good
That SL9 is what I had on the gabi from this place in Asheville - might have to buy a box and brew it at home
Anyone over at SEY house
Not promising based on your comment before but we’ll see
Huge tree?
yi mei
I don't think anyone will be disappointed with any sey sl9
Just got back 15 mins ago
@mellow sonnet @ monolith, do you have any recs?
Haven't been since the opening week
They're open today?
I thought monolith staff came to WOC
I have a broken toe on each foot right now. 😅 probably a good thing I didn’t go.
Damn how that happen
I dropped a kettle bell on one foot. Then three weeks later I wiped out on my bike on the Santa Ana river trail and broke my big toe on the other one.
Though if I was at WOC instead of exercising like a chump I’d be collecting samples instead of limping around my mother in laws condo playing hide and seek with my four year old.
I would do banko espresso and rift
Rift was decent, rush and echo good but not coffee and don't expect coffee
Still was meh
All 4 was pretty fun experience
was in between rift and rush but got rift
mandarin rock edition
the spro is good
idk what to say about rift other than that its an experience
expect orange juice for rush lol
only the monolith owners went to WoC
Eli + Nikki i think
employees have to work lol
The one from last year was ass
Tasted like Gatorade
iono sey had nothing but SL9s at the house and almost all of it was pretty good
Sey has gotten objectively lighter as per Lance h. Iirc about 10 agtron points or so since ~April
homie was rattling ranges for bana rosters, I forget where they landed
Picky chemist UL, shoebox and ET were about the same range
Perhaps still good but not to last years standard? Most since early summer were slappers
Hmmm they were pretty light a few years ago. I wonder if it’s lighter or if this is closer to reverting to previous form.
Shoebox hits. I’ve only had one complete dud from them
yea some of hte sey from first half of 2025 was not that great. this year has been pretty good
Fair enough.
I’m hesitant to buy despite the hype though. Had some I got from mandarin a few months ago that I didn’t enjoy very much
Someone left a bag of shoebox on a table so I asked around and no one said anything so I took it 🤩
Talked too much at the meet
Is that the new meta for post brew remineralization
Yes this is how you get the perfect amount of herbal notes out of your ultralightd
Chudmaxxed before leaving SD
This is the most degen thing ive eaten in the last 2 yrs
thats rich coming from you
Do you do a bypass with it 
Vallertas
I ate almost 3/4 of that and half a burrito
The fries were meant to be shared amongst the 5 of us but everyone tapped out hella early
We gotta get Sloth on a psyllium husk supplement
I actually have had that in my chia yogurt i eat
Just need some extra steps these next couple days and eat lighter
Then proceed to have a 3k calorie nuke shortly after
Just do psyllium with straight water twice a day and then uh… continue to do your thing 😂 😂
Folks looking for food should eat here https://maps.app.goo.gl/yAE5xVKkms35H8tb7?g_st=ipc
Had like 5 people mention this place to me but found out too late
Had babboi gelato as well
An’s dry cleaing is better
Juniper & ivy got the job done for big party
I would like to encourage everyone in this channel to go walk your neighborhood and pick loquat right now. It’s a particularly good year.