Los Angeles/OC/San Diego 🌈

[weary chasm]

Oh. You picked it up

Lol.

You gonna pick up v60 alpha or neo?

[desert stirrup]

Most likely not. Neo does seem interesting though!

[desert stirrup]

Were you the mystery admirer?!

My knight in shining armor?!

[weary chasm]

Lol

Gonna see if the shiny new toy isn't so shiny anymore

[weary chasm]

Def feels like you'd pick up a ceramic v60 alpha

Covers...

V60, check.
Not plastic. Check

I'll link you if I see it

There's v60 alpha

Lol. Hopefully same group can import the ceramic

Currently giving my ceramic UFO dripper some use.

Pink theme going on.

Pink hario carafe. Pink tw ceramic cup. Pink UFO dripper. Pink pietro

No pink gooseneck.

[desert stirrup]

Teach me your flat bottom recipes!

[desert stirrup]

How do you like it compared to V60?

[boreal solar]

Just buy a melodrip. Do a 60ml bloom. Then use the melodrip to split the remainder over two pours. Usually works well enough tbh

[weary chasm]

Maybe if there's a metal melodrip. Lol

[weary chasm]

Mainly been using flower dripper these days. A variant of a v60

[boreal solar]

Tritan is fine tbh.

[weary chasm]

Yeah. It's Def fine for me. But for the microplastic folks, it's not

Though. I guess if you have decent, might be plastic tubing. I forget

[boreal solar]

Teflon iirc

[bitter kestrel]

Soooo, meetup. Did I miss the address somewhere? If it’s top secret, @dull adder please DM.

[mellow sonnet]

There was a brass melodrip in china I was considering lol

Cast brass but the success rate was low so the guy stopped making them

[dull adder]

Message the host, wtfitsperry, and he'll send the deets

[crude citrus]

Yes, please DM me for address for the meetup!

[lone pier]

any boulderers in the chat? was curious if anyone wants to go climbing at The Post after the meetup on sat

[vivid violet]

I usually grind at 150 um, so not too many boulders

a friend goes to The Post, it seems really cool. haven't been..

[lone pier]

getting into climbing was the biggest improvement to my quality of life you should definitely give it a shot!

[vivid violet]

I haven't bouldered for years, perhaps when I'm back into it a bit 😊

I topped out at V5s

only inverted V17s and above for me now

[lone pier]

oh you’re experienced then lol you should definitely start again!

why’d you stop?

[lone pier]

crazy my climb grade and brew method are the same. v60 🥸

[glossy sail]

@mellow sonnet sometimes sessions with me at my garage wall. I have a kilter setup.

[mellow sonnet]

I've literally been to post once on a weekend and hated it 💀

So many people

I'm spoiled with morning weekday gym

[lone pier]

dude it’s so bad when it’s busy

yeah i only go weekday afternoons unless it’s a special occasion lol

[vivid violet]

life got busy, and the climbing buddy I went with lived up north and would come down here to Touchstone gyms..

[mellow sonnet]

I'm usually out by 12pm

It's great

[lone pier]

so sick that’s a dream man. gf and i were considering moving somewhere remote for a bit and were looking into the process of building a wall

[mellow sonnet]

I might get a wall and have it in my backyard but idk

[lone pier]

what size is your board

i meant building a board not a wall. wall would be crazy

didn’t end up moving ofc but seemed pretty tedious to set up even if buying a kit. but then again you probably just spend a weekend building it and have a board at home for life

[mellow sonnet]

I'm fortunate enough to be a financially stable homeowner kindaish but yeah if I ever move idk

[vivid violet]

do you feel like you're topping out at V60, or can you Switch it up 🥁

that may be too Melo-dripmatic

<checks if blocked by everyone in this thread>

[mellow sonnet]

There's also a pottery studio in china that makes a v30 which seems like it's a good alternative to a deep27 but ceramic

If u want no plastic

Idk how u would get one in the US tho

[cedar otter]

I wonder if thats the thing I saw in Japan

I saw like a ceramic deep27 style

not made by cafec

[shadow torrent]

if you're doing the same dose then for the same bed depth you'll probably need less kettle agitation. but if you reduce agitation then you'll need to increase contact time by agitating in a less disruptive manner like with wet-wdt or alternatively doing smaller pours so the water column stays short

[glossy sail]

Standard 8x12. With approximately 4x12s on each side with spray holds. Have some real rocks from various places drilled in too.

Padding is courtesy of the Post actually lol

It's the kilter home edition so more density.

[civic crest]

Hasi bread - chai roll with orange cream cheese frosting and cardamom choco chip cookie. Outside of the roll was dry, but the frosting was good. For $12 this is a pass. Cookie is also a pass.

[vivid violet]

all together $12, or only for the roll ?

daaaaamn

[lone pier]

that’s so sick man 🔥

[vivid violet]

man, that's so cool

[glossy sail]

Forgot, it's fixed at 45 degrees. But yea I'm in Alhambra. Can get some seshes in if you want.

[civic crest]

$12 for the roll haha, cookie was 5

[mellow sonnet]

Hey it's me

[lone pier]

i’ll hit you up when i get stronger, i’m still pretty shit 😂

[mellow sonnet]

It's ok I'm shit

[vivid violet]

if you'd like, I can join to make y'all feel better

[mellow sonnet]

Also I think Allen is really good at picking sets that are good and challenging but doesn't feel impossible

[lone pier]

i would like that actually yeah rory 🤣

[vivid violet]

I'll wear my hiking boots from REI

[lone pier]

yo actually you just bring the kilter board to the meetup

i’ll rent a crane

[glossy sail]

I think if you're like v3+ at post you can try my kilter

[mellow sonnet]

Am v4-5 at post and yep v3 on kilter

I think v1-2 just feels like ladder jugs and is kinda sad other than warmup on kilter and tension

[lone pier]

i’ll try some boarding out during my session today. i climb ~v5 in gym grades but get cooked in v1s on the TS board lol

[tight gorge]

anyone selling their lagom casa?

[boreal solar]

Did you ever sell yours? @eternal birch

[desert stirrup]

I'm not anti plastic, I design and use 3D printed stuff. I would just like to minimize plastic usage because of potential health reasons but more so because I think plastic feels and tends to look cheap. For a hobby I already put a lot of money and energy into, I don't want to compromise when I don't have to!

[weary chasm]

Having said that. Are you going to use a melodrip

[desert stirrup]

Same dose as I was doing with V60 or same dose I was using with non-negotiated?

The answer to both is 15g dose. I use 15g with V60 and wavy or negotiated wavy filter O1

[desert stirrup]

I am down to try it out again. Long ago I bought it to use with a V60 and felt my brews to be consistently under extracted compared to bare kettle 1-2-1 recipe so I returned it

I'm down to try it again with a flat bottom

Maybe someone will have one on Saturday

[mellow sonnet]

I have one

It def creates more extraction not less for me

[tight gorge]

sculptor 64 or casa

for spro

boomer and soup

[shadow torrent]

okay so you're probably working with a shorter bed. for the washed coffee does the same bag taste good to you in a v60?

or alternatively does the washed coffee taste good to you with a nehotiated filter

[eternal birch]

yeah

'sold' to my friend for 300

[compact hound]

@dull adder has casa

[tight gorge]

yeah but hes lagomaxxxing so hes not selling it

[dull adder]

I need the P80

[left kite]

Same… the Met discount with option-o is making me try to get this year before it expires lol

[mellow sonnet]

I can't tell if this is ugly as fuck because it's Photoshop or if they just wanted to remove the background

[boreal solar]

Heh, doesn’t it perform on par with $300 grinders?

[livid plover]

Can anyone recommend a really good bakery in San Diego?

[compact hound]

Wayfarer

[mellow sonnet]

This my plan for April 💀

Crate and barrel to browse furniture and can charge my car in the plaza

Will figure out the rest of what I'm doing that weekend while I'm there just have places bookmarked

[compact hound]

Wayfarer & tribute pizza are my only reccs

Animae?

Never been

But seems solid

[mellow sonnet]

I'm not a big pizza person but will add wayfarer to my list

Animae looks too expensive for me to go alone can't try enough of the menu without a friend

Who wanna go w me

[solid ferry]

I do think that rikka fikka has a good bakery program regardless of being a coffee shop

[mellow sonnet]

I need to go to rikka fikka just to say I've been I feel like

I'm more excited for longplay hifi

[solid ferry]

Their conchas are fun

[tight gorge]

I had a great and then a mid Animae experience

[cedar otter]

We have airbnb in sd for 3 nights

Lets hanggg

[cedar otter]

Same I havent been

I feel like the line is gonna be insane

Did Jack forget to schedule his posts on Instagram?

Endorffeine posted like 8 things 4 hrs ago

Ironic bc he’s closed this month

[bitter kestrel]

I noticed that. Also noticed that I’m allowed to PDA with a non-female all I want there.

[mellow sonnet]

Where's his unhinged post about a couple making out

And then the one where he complained about yoga pants

[short condor]

I love a heavy bloom for my brews it’s my go to for most recipes

[short condor]

Lots of climbing spots in the valley especially in chatsworth actual boulders not so much gyms. 3/4 places downtown la I believe as well

[short condor]

There’s one in the but sell, thought about grabbing the 65casa but it sold

[short condor]

Will you bring your negotiator on Saturday, wanna try it before I buy one.

[earnest robin]

When is the convection? I need to use my San Diego safari ticket ..

[short condor]

Don’t we all

[earnest robin]

There will be 3 of them on the meetup

You can steal one

Also, I was wondering if we need 3 P100 with HU

Maybe 2 is enough

So I can leave mine at home

[short condor]

It does a decent job, I use mine for batch on my ratio six. Decent distribution all around similar to niche but not as good imho

[earnest robin]

No shadows?

[earnest robin]

Can't you use discount without met?

[tight gorge]

how are the stainless orea maxxxers liking it?

[left kite]

As long as you ordered one you apply but if you’ve never ordered then no since they match back to met orders and refund the discount

[earnest robin]

$50 is like 3% for P80

[mellow sonnet]

50$ is basically rounding error 💀

[earnest robin]

Agree, looks more like advertising

[left kite]

Like 10% for a casa

Definitely much better for ppl who want casa but not complaining for anything extra off for p80 if I already have a met

[mellow sonnet]

Tbh if u wanted a casa u wouldn't be looking at a met but a cheaper machine I feel like

[short condor]

I think the casa 65 could hold up decently but given what the met can do I do imagine you’d want something nicer

[glossy sail]

Something flat 😉

[mellow sonnet]

50$ off of the l01 or p80 is like minimal

[tight gorge]

My doge currently has a foxtail ingrained in her foot, so she decided to run away and get this stuck inside her eye

[glossy sail]

Heritage BBQ in SJC on the way to SD is worth. James Beard finalist

[tight gorge]

Hmm, went once and it was coo

[surreal pivot]

Love it. Been my daily since picking it up

[tight gorge]

Coming from a v60?

[surreal pivot]

The best one was when he complained about being tipped in coins

[surreal pivot]

Yeah

[dull adder]

Casa is solid for this imo. If anything not boomer enough 😅

[mellow sonnet]

He literally so bored on his plane to Thailand he posting unhinged things again

[tight gorge]

What filters?

[surreal pivot]

Xbloom

[left kite]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-look-the-other-way-look-away-awkward-weird-gif-17246188

Totally not the combo I’m running….

[dull adder]

It's all about desired taste. Casa performs well for its taste profile and it's nice to use. I see no reason to needlessly spend more money

[tight gorge]

Look I’ve been grinding with a Max2 on a Met all while tamping with a aeropress plunger for over a month

[mellow sonnet]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1704863190495113/?mibextid=dXMIcH

Is this good

It's pretty

[earnest robin]

Ask in bana

#1016422717270011964

It's ok

But you are not fan of pizzas

Are you a fan of breads?

[mellow sonnet]

I like bread yeah

I want to try and make brioche eventually

Kitchen small so wait until I move back

[earnest robin]

Do you regularly make bread?

Was it a serious question about the mixer

[mellow sonnet]

I would like to regularly make bread

I regularly buy bread now

[dull adder]

Maybe it's better than a regular stand mixer.. but why not just get a stand mixer?

I'm not a big fan of unitaskers, as much as I can get away from them

[mellow sonnet]

It is a stand mixer no? It has attachments for whisking and whatnot

[shadow torrent]

Wait why ?

[mellow sonnet]

Wouldn't u at least get a 64mm flat or something

Something w interchangeable burrs

[bitter kestrel]

I spot an Alton Brownie

[dull adder]

Guilty. Can't say I've been enjoying his new content too much, he appears to be an alcoholic

[earnest robin]

Start now

You don't need a mixer

Stretch and folds and overnight bulking is great

[bitter kestrel]

No no no, a narcissistic alcoholic. But he found love 🤷🏻‍♂️. And did I wait in line for two hours so he could sign my wooden spoon? Maybe (not a euphemism). Hoffman is a great replacement daddy.

[shadow torrent]

most folks owning an espresso machine above $1k don't necessarily care for a platform with swappable burrs

[mellow sonnet]

Fair enough but people who care enough to have software based profiles would probably would which was my assumption but I guess that's not true

[civic crest]

i can attest, i saw him do it in person

[shadow torrent]

yup. many folks with a decent for example could care less for anything other than a niche.

it's the same reason even most endgame grinders don't ship out with ssp burrs

[left kite]

I prob would have gotten a grinder with swappable burrs but the Met shipping in December wasn’t on my list and wanted something that shipped fast, p well priced, and works well so the option-o sale got me

[shadow torrent]

for folks visiting san diego and there for more than a day, anyone interested in cafe hopping in the city?

during WOC that is

[livid plover]

We(SEY) are putting together a 4 day event during WOC with HYUNAH Coffee Club

[bitter kestrel]

Sey more please!

[desert stirrup]

I would think the bed on the O1 is actually taller.

The washed tastes better on V60. I haven’t tried it with negotiated. I may try today!

[desert stirrup]

That do be the plan!

[desert stirrup]

I’m still making up my mind man. V60 still has the throne

[desert stirrup]

What’s been your recipes and coffees?? I need the guidance

[desert stirrup]

Learn to knead bread by hand. You’ll understand gluten development better.

[desert stirrup]

It good. The issue is longevity and build quality. The machine is less than a year old I believe

Guys

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/976493988880995/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Mandarin 67 just dropped

[livid plover]

More to come very soon!

[tight gorge]

Damn; is SEY back back?

[shadow torrent]

i would try a higher dose to rule out bed height as a possibility.

[desert stirrup]

Didn't they get a new head roaster? I haven't been following to closely so I'm very unsure

[desert stirrup]

So 20g in the O1?

[shadow torrent]

should be a fair start yeah

[desert stirrup]

15g is already like half the brewer's space

[desert stirrup]

I shall try!

[shadow torrent]

grind a little bit coarser too since the bed is now 30% taller

[solid ferry]

This is a more persistent EAF/bana meme/inside joke than actual reality

[weary chasm]

But from my understanding, general sentiment towards sey is positive

Currently

[solid ferry]

Every roaster is just one bag away from being

[weary chasm]

I roast. I'm coal. Lol. I don't roast anymore.

[boreal solar]

Super windy out here in Rancho today.

[weary chasm]

I just buy coal

[boreal solar]

Heh, I like to flirt with coal.

[solid ferry]

It’s okay. Every roaster is either coal, UL, or coferm/afraid of flavor

[boreal solar]

I love ultralights but if I’m honest I always end up roasting a little darker for myself because I procrastinate and don’t plan ahead. I don’t want to wait a month to drink my roasts.

[solid ferry]

Just depends on what they want today and tomorrow

[weary chasm]

I think medium light is my sweet spot.

But been challenging myself to brew lights and ultra lights...

[desert stirrup]

Oh also I would recommend Ankarsrum. It's EU's answer to the Kitchen Aid. It's far better at bread than the KA. I've been gradually been turned off from KA given they seem to be all clout and prestige but little performance.

I learned of Ankarsrum because when we did test or small batches at Friends & Family it was in that. I asked why not KA and it's because non bowl spinning designs overheat the dough before proper gluten development. Planetary mixers are better at pastry work though. I think Ankarsrum solved that issue with a second bowl and two whisks.

The Ooni only good for dough it seems. If you want a KA I reckon you spend the cash and get the upgraded and lifetime support option from Mr. Mixer. Signature Collection — KitchenAid Mixers for Sale — Mr. Mixer https://share.google/hgnae41qoiaARB0Du

[boreal solar]

also when I tried selling ultralights in the IE people would make lattes two days post roast and complain they couldn’t taste the coffee.

So that made me adapt a little

[solid ferry]

There is always what we want and what will work. Just got to dial. Or not

[weary chasm]

Wow. Thanks for sharing. Who is this Mr mixer though? Custom mod?

Is this for commercial use? Lol

*I'm looking to find a backup for whipping

Currently using some random Amazon machine

Kitchen aid are also about that price new right?

[boreal solar]

You guys should ask in the #1016422717270011964 channel. Fuller alone has owned like six different high end mixers in the past year

[weary chasm]

Super true...

[desert stirrup]

I think Brown spit out a poor regime of anti-uni-taskers.

Uni-taskers are exceptional at their job and causes me to reach for them when the need arises. I think the market is ripe for dumb uni-taskers which is why I'm guessing Brown said what he said. That doesn't mean items like a fish scaler, potato ricer, ginger/garlic/root grater, or even a vitamix isn't incredibly useful. They all do one thing but one thing better than maybe 99.9% of other items. I'm in a point where I prefer specialization and premium end product than a multi tool

[desert stirrup]

I already am hella coarse. 8.0 on pietro

[weary chasm]

I guess if you have a coffee shop, I guess you have the stuff you want to sell that doesn't make money.

And then you have the money makers. Lol

[shadow torrent]

what's that in burr gap like 600 um?

[desert stirrup]

He's a guy who fixes KA mixers and makes mods. He's legit and fixed my parents machine. His more are really good too!

[desert stirrup]

I'm completely unsure man :/

[dull adder]

Vitamix I wouldn't really call a unitasker.
I use mine as a spice grinder for example. I've cooked soup in it. Mine happens to also double as a food processor but that's almost a technicality

[shadow torrent]

yeah I'd go coarser

the idea is too coarse a grind usually tastes less crappy when not dialed in than too fine a grind

[desert stirrup]

The vitamix's ascent series is what caused me to shift into exceptional uni-taskers. I found the food processor and blender form to be sub par to just buying the machines separately. That is what caused me to break from Brown's mind control

[desert stirrup]

Well only one more option after 8. 9

[shadow torrent]

yeah believe it or not 8 is fairly fine for some folks as well, so i wouldn't fret

[tight gorge]

Owner started production roasting again last year and people noticed an improvement in roast quality. He no longer does production roasts but I’ve been having more consistent bags which I really enjoy

[dull adder]

The Ascent series is pretty funny. You don't really save any space or money from a separate food processor. And from what I read it's a worse food processor, though it has served my needs just fine.
The blender portion is the same as any Vitamix. Only minor difference is they mostly only come with those wide pitchers which makes blending small quantities a pain but you can always use different pitchers

[desert stirrup]

Dope. I shall change my mind and think Sey is good until further infraction

@tight gorge knows his bean shit

Bana man

[tight gorge]

I don’t bana much anymore, mainly here tbh

[dull adder]

Or just get a proper kitchen aid, they still make them. But since most people hardly use them they also make cheap plastic ones to look pretty on your counters

But this is mostly because I feel kinda idk about the Mr Mixer guy

[tight gorge]

Oh and Sey is now cheaper than most roasters here lol

[desert stirrup]

Yeah dude I hated the wide pitcher and the processor.

The wide pitcher is good if you didn't have a processor! In college I made loads of hummus but my 5200 can't do that. I plan to buy a Cuisinart classic 2button processor or sheet of like a grand and just buy a robo coup. That shit blew my mind when I saw it in action. It went through my entire 30lb box of apple no sweat yet it's about the same size as a Cuisinart!

I still never understood why I was assigned apple dicing duty to just puree them afterwards but yes chef or whatever

[weary chasm]

I guess I'll look into it. $1200 is not cheap but not out of the realm

And then they sell a $600 unlimited repair

[desert stirrup]

Mad facts

[dull adder]

How much is Hobart these days? Haha

[desert stirrup]

He was dandy for me :). Hus videos are iffy tho

[weary chasm]

It depends on the size

I guess

For hobart

[desert stirrup]

POG

[weary chasm]

When I was shopping, a 30 QT new one was $14k

[desert stirrup]

My man is entertaining the poor boy

[dull adder]

I was thinking a 5 or 7qt or something 😅

[desert stirrup]

I personally think Ankarsrum is the better home option if you lean bread baking or larger batches. If you strictly do party then I think KA would be the better move

[weary chasm]

It's just whipping cream

[desert stirrup]

Oh then go KA or another planetary mixer

Hit up a restaurant supply store maybe

It also just depends on cream quantity

[dull adder]

Vitamix Aer Disc can also handle whipped cream and cold foams

[weary chasm]

Hm. Not a bad idea

To see what they stock

[desert stirrup]

Should I still do the 1-2-1 recipe or a pulse recipe?

[short condor]

450-500 based on my sieves

[cedar otter]

most not all

[dull adder]

Not the black YouTuber gloves 😭

[solid ferry]

I’d make the call based on the volume and use requirements. Anything from hand all the way to carpagiani and all the options in between

[bronze mural]

Hey folks, I’ve been MIA for a hot minute and just logging back in - are we still doing the meet up tomorrow? Or did we land on another day?

[left inlet]

Its tommorow.

[bronze mural]

Thanks! First meet up for me. What is the address and what time to be there?

Anything I can bring or contribute?

[left inlet]

You need to sign up on this Google doc and Dm the host for the address. people usually arive 20 mins before 10 am to set up and find street parking.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hRptzD-zjKY6GHk0u8HhuUt6zsEYIpJS1lUmSftjl48/edit?usp=drivesdk

[crude citrus]

Send me a dm for address

[bronze mural]

Just sent

[topaz zenith]

oh dang, busy this weekend, but I'll try and make it out to a meetup one of these days

[desert stirrup]

Yo @crude citrus what time should we start to come through?

[crude citrus]

10am

But if you’d like to come a little earlier I would appreciate the help to set up the canopy

[vivid violet]

potato ricer isn't a uni-tasker. it's a great PO tool also.

[mellow sonnet]

im like 5min away from perry so i just go early and help

[surreal pivot]

I just use the recipe that came in the package and it has worked well with a September anaerobic washed and a Friedhats washed Rwanda. Nothing complicated at all.

Preheating the brewer seems to help but half the time I haven’t bothered with it

[shadow torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/fafo-findout-fuckaround-fuckaroundandfindout-you-gif-26826252

[shadow torrent]

burr gap isn't the equivalent of nominal peak unfortunately. to make it worse, sieves are known to be very inaccurate for these measurements. ime though more often than not nominal peak sits ~200 um to the right of burr gap

unrelated pulled a banger of a shot with H&S's Keramo (12/25 roast date) and the stone fruit and lemonade in finish has lasted for hours now

[tight gorge]

I’m popping a few HS cherries at the meetup

[short condor]

Just wanna make sure I’m not crazy, I went and reread the comments. Are we not talking the difference in grind size between click/notches/rotations etc.

What are you referring to when when you say nominal peak ? Like in relation to the use of force when grinding?

I’d agree sieves can be finicky but I’m using fishers scientific, personally I find them to be pretty solid but that’s just me.
Not trying to sound combative if it comes across that way I was a bit confused.

[short condor]

If you’re good for the help I’ll swing early for clean up and help breakdown at the end of the day 🤙

[crude citrus]

Would appreciate it!

[shadow torrent]

Didn't take it to be combative at all. My apologies if that's how my response came across. Nominal peak is the boulder peak we see in grind distribution plots when done with imaging or laser. The reason it almost always sits at a higher value than spacing between burrs is because only one axis of the particle is restricted to the burr spacing and other two axes can therefore have dimensions higher than that. Add to that the fact that coffee grounds tend to not rest on the shorter edge when doing something like imaging, so what gets calculated are usually the larger edges

So in a sieve you can have the same phenomenon where the larger edge being perpendicular to the hole can easily pass through

[desert stirrup]

I will try my best boss

[desert stirrup]

Wait yours came with a recipe? Mine had a QR code that linked to their site that had 4 or 5 recipes

[desert stirrup]

1-2-1 it is!

I will report back soon!

[desert stirrup]

I’m excited!

No more H&S V card for me

But also

His shit is expensive

Might not be good for a broke boy like me

[short condor]

I’ll be bringing some really old ass beans that nobody will probably want to brew with but can gladly use two test grinders distribution season, etc.

[desert stirrup]

Oh dope I’ll try that second recipe

Thanks for the pic

[cedar otter]

Some new beans

[left kite]

Oooo that newberry haro wachu sounds v nice….

[weary chasm]

Variance

Lol

[tight gorge]

Ondo 7

[vivid violet]

jja-jun-ondo

[desert stirrup]

Is this the place next door to Ondo Artesia?

[desert stirrup]

I’ve never heard of these roasters!

Might pick up tomorrow if available in Hollywood

[tight gorge]

Si

[desert stirrup]

But also I bought too many beans recently

Backlog is high rn

[desert stirrup]

How was it?

You got extra onions?

[tight gorge]

Good, but it does taste chinesey

lol

OG as some would say

The place does to both Korean and chinese so natch

[desert stirrup]

Natch?

[cedar otter]

Yes driving over to hollywood rn

[tight gorge]

It’s a stupid word

[solid ferry]

Pretty sure that would be a compliment by Bon Appétit, Your Majesty rules 😆

[desert stirrup]

Fack me. I’ve done well to stave off the large purchases

It’s the small daily ones that get me

Like coffee beans

[lone pier]

i’m here! first time actually, its fire

[dull adder]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-coffee-gif-22159342

"garçon coffee!"
"Garçon means boy.."

I think of this from Pulp Fiction when I see the new stickers at Ondo 😅

[buoyant marlin]

I've been using the first recipe but four equal pours at 93c. I've also been using a Comandante since that's what they reference and have had some killer brews. Sey and Aviary particularly have shined.

[bitter kestrel]

Let’s soup ‘em! Could be best brew of the morning.

[surreal pivot]

Yeah the four equal pours was my standard. Works really well. I’m not a Sey fan though

[buoyant marlin]

My first time trying them. Got a Burundi that is delicious. Chiroso not as much so far.

[short condor]

I was gonna say didn’t you just talk about being broke and needing to save that cash money

[surreal pivot]

Whatever they were doing in ‘23 I really enjoyed. Since then, not so much

[buoyant marlin]

Ahh bummer. Well glad I don't have the reference haha so I'm enjoying it so far.

[eternal birch]

does mandarin 2 have orea o1 filters or whatever 155 filter that fits

[buoyant marlin]

I've only used Xbloom filters, they're great if you can find em.

[eternal birch]

do they have em at mandarin 2?

[surreal pivot]

I don’t think so

[short condor]

Welp I’m gonna need to buy like a dozen of these

[buoyant marlin]

That is cute haha

[short condor]

Mini servers too!

[buoyant marlin]

omg I want that one haha

[desert stirrup]

Ondo in Hollywood has the XBloom filters that fit. I think the sibarist flat ones maybe at Artesia. Could be at the Hollywood location too. That will be something @cedar otter will have to confirm

[buoyant marlin]

I got the flat filters but have yet to try them.

Xblooms are just too easy to toss in hah

[desert stirrup]

Flat ones too damn expensive for me man

Like a $1.50 a pop

[eternal birch]

ya ik ondo has em but I was just curious if mandarin had em as well

ill see if I can make it to ondo tmrw then

[earnest robin]

Hand mixer for $20

[buoyant marlin]

Yeah hah. I only got them as part of the bundle to try since they were discounted.

I buy Xbloom filters 10 boxes at a time so they're always on hand

[bitter kestrel]

Wait, is there a hole or no? I can’t tell. They have to be functional (?!)

[buoyant marlin]

They're tasting cups not brewers

[cedar otter]

XB filters? Yeah we got em

[desert stirrup]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DVKKzq9gSfT/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

[bitter kestrel]

I’m drilling a hole in one then

[lone pier]

costco food court

[weary chasm]

I guess you use less water

[turbid herald]

Any need or interest for me to bring my Pietro tomorrow? Or already have a confirmed Pietro or two?

[neon scaffold]

id love to try a pietro, ill bring my zp6 if 4 some reason anyone wants to try that as well

[compact hound]

Still bummed I cant make it but excited for yall to have fun tomorrow! Drink lots of good coffee and eat good food ❤️

[lone pier]

hit dayglow for the final stop of the day. hit 3 banger spots and am exhausted. also think i’m done spending money for the month 🤣

[tight gorge]

Dayglow as the third leg is smart. Their distilled coffee is a caffeine scam haha

[lone pier]

tell me more, i have no idea what distilled coffee is XD

[tight gorge]

Clarified cold brew that is distilled so it ends up with less caffeine. Good for their drinks tho which I stan

[lone pier]

oh interesting. how does it effect flavor?

[tight gorge]

havent had it straight, but I assume its more neutral

[bitter kestrel]

To reduce caffeine’s astringency? I’m all for lower caffeine coffee. Then I can keep drinking it.

[tight gorge]

I think it takes away quite a lot of caffeine, I dont feel any different after drinking them

so more like a mocktail of sorts

aka scam /s not /s

[lone pier]

pretty interesting actually cuz gf spams this spot after work almost daily and still manages to sleep at an appropriate time

[surreal pivot]

Dayglow is good. Just don’t order any beans from them online. They send you random shit, promise to make it right, then ghost you

[compact hound]

Shocker you didn’t mention how much they jack up the price on everything

Don’t get me started on their “chef’s table” selection

[tight gorge]

Damn bro, how quickly you forgot that free beer

[surreal pivot]

For some beans they do and for others they weirdly don’t.

I’m not too price sensitive but I have seen some wild markups

I haven’t been tempted by the chef’s table stuff. Is it bogus?

[tight gorge]

It’s just Pepe and the like

[neon scaffold]

U can get dak beans easily at Dayglow which is cool but besides that…

[surreal pivot]

Dak is not bad once you accept that Milky cake is shit

[neon scaffold]

i had the holiday roast (panettone) and loved it tbh

[surreal pivot]

Yea they had something called Chunky Cherry a little while ago that was 🔥

[shadow torrent]

shit that's so lovely

where is this?

[bronze mural]

Bringing my kettle, pour over and drip scales, mavo phantox pro hand grinder (if anyone wants to try) and a new bag of beans from Hydrangea tomorrow. Looking forward to meeting those who are going 😎

[desert stirrup]

Big boi dough

[tight gorge]

ill bring picky chemist and exposure therapy so yall can drink some quality tea

I can also bring some empirical water potion to do some side by side comparisons

[crude citrus]

So uh anyone have sand bags to hold down the canopy

[mellow sonnet]

Who got extra gallons of water sitting around

[crude citrus]

5 gal would make me feel better. Tent is from temu

[tight gorge]

fack, I come to realize i usually do get the top end of these gusts

hope the workers in my yard dont fly away

[lone pier]

i can bring multiple 5 gals but i’m worried i’m gonna wake up late 😅

[crude citrus]

Peak winds and gusts happen right at 10am too 💀

[earnest robin]

Is this Mandarin IX?

[lone pier]

holbox 2

[crude citrus]

If anyone has spare EG-1s that we can use to hold down the canopy please bring them

[cedar otter]

Damn my bad

Also I forgot to bring UL Kenya 😭

I was gonna drop off at Perry’s

[crude citrus]

I’ll come pick it up from you right now if I can also borrow your EG-1

[bronze mural]

@crude citrus I can bring 2, 1 gallon distilled waters - do you still need?

[drowsy knot]

@cedar otter @crude citrus I’m <10mins from Ondo Hollywood if anything needs to be picked up/delivered lmk

@crude citrus my power station weighs 100lbs and can hold down a corner

@dull adder @desert stirrup Kenwood Cooking Chef Major ftw

[crude citrus]

Yea maybe better than nothing. There’s 8 posts on the canopy

[desert stirrup]

Glad it arrived at least!

[cedar otter]

Nah the kenya is at artesia

[bitter kestrel]

As of now, I’m just bringing a table and half a bag of coffee. Please lmk if I can contribute anything else.

[short condor]

I saw it on insta awhile back but haven’t been able to find it again

[neon scaffold]

i think i found it? maybe? https://www.sheepmaimai.co.uk/product-page/hario-mini-wave-v60-portable-tasting-cup @shadow torrent

[left kite]

are crossed items on the excel for meet tomorrow items people aren't bringing anymore? just checkin

[crude citrus]

I believe they crossed themselves out since they’re not attending anymore

[shadow torrent]

yeah. bummed that I'll not be able to make it

[left inlet]

I am glad you're bringing Meticulous. I really wanted to try Meticulous paired with P80 and other burrs to help me in deciding which burr taste profile and workflow I prefer. Thanks for doing that.

[lone pier]

just got off work 🤣 see everyone in a few hours

[edgy steppe]

I'm bringing the TWW water I had written down on the sheet, and also bringing a 5 gallon of RO water and TWW packets (not sure we'll need all that but it can keep the popups in place lol).

[desert stirrup]

I’m proud :’)

[neon scaffold]

holy....my goat

[vivid violet]

that looks amazing, Reub

thank you so much for the hard work

[left kite]

Oh man its windy this morning

[vivid violet]

i got woken up by the blustery gusts 💨

[drowsy knot]

There are so many jokes here….

[vivid violet]

out with them, toot sweet

[neon scaffold]

Canopy is going to war today

[boreal solar]

It’s super cute. I want to hang it on a Christmas tree😅

[crude citrus]

I’m going to assign people to a canopy post

[short condor]

🫡

[solid ferry]

Please tell me more about this. These look better than the ones I've seen at Bucc-ees 😁

[earnest robin]

Man, that's dedication!!

[civic crest]

Have fun everyone!

[compact hound]

Damn this wind is insane wtf

[boreal solar]

Oh it’s crazy here. Just leaving messed up my garage for the few seconds it was open

[desert stirrup]

Catch me in 30 mins!

I have savory options too!

Grabbing name tags rn

[crude citrus]

It calmed down a tiny bit here

[desert stirrup]

The savory options are quite ambitious and exciting I think!

They just don’t look as pretty :/

[crude citrus]

Pregaming

[boreal solar]

I raise you

Because “Do you want to go to another coffee shop that has cookies?” “Well…I was going to get an Easter cookie.”

@cedar otter you lost because you don’t have eastershaped cookies. Step it up.

[mellow sonnet]

That's the fanciest Panera I ever seen

[desert stirrup]

I raise

[lone pier]

gm i sleeeeepy

need soup

[vivid violet]

didja get any good sleep after work ended ?

[lone pier]

no bro cat kept making biscuits 😂

cute but not the time to be baking

[boreal solar]

They don’t even have tulip and bunny shaped cookies though.

[surreal pivot]

😭 I’ll def be at the next one

[vivid violet]

how's it going.. still enough folks to drop by ?

[mellow sonnet]

Lots of people

[vivid violet]

driving over now, thx !

[tight gorge]

Fun seeing yall today! Can’t wait for the next one.

Maybe @scarlet gale Can roll thru

[neon scaffold]

Great day pleasure meeting yall

[vivid violet]

fyi @tall frigate , we wrapped. looking fwd to seeing you at the next one.

[tall frigate]

I'll be there! I got stuck with the kiddos.

Also happy to host a pizza dinner in the backyard for the local crew if anyone has any interest in burning some dough in the big wood oven.

[vivid violet]

ah shoot, sorry. i meant it's all done for today..

heck yeah, don't have to force feed me pizza 🍕

[tall frigate]

yeah, sorry, misphrasing on my part. I mean I'll catch the next one.

Hope you guys had a great time

[vivid violet]

the Temu tent really shone, especially with the whole group hanging on for dear life during the high winds.

[tall frigate]

Lol, yeah it did a number on the portable greenhouse I have in my backyard

[vivid violet]

hope the on call went well, and you are less that 50% murdered by the kiddies

[tall frigate]

It's been good so far. Will be off call on Wednesday morning.

[mellow sonnet]

thanks @crude citrus for hosting 🫡

[drowsy knot]

Great to see everyone - thank you @crude citrus for hosting again!

[crude citrus]

Great seeing everyone! Thanks for coming and not breaking my garage

[bronze mural]

Thank you @crude citrus for hosting this! I’m really glad I got to meet you all in person and try some stellar brews! Sharing some videos

By the way, I finally tried Mandarin 2 - it definitely lived up to the hype!

Thanks for joining me at Mandarin, @desert stirrup !

[mellow sonnet]

avo finally went and didnt post pics?

[crude citrus]

Sus

[mellow sonnet]

yeah he went to mandarin 3 not 2 smh

[crude citrus]

But really thanks for coming all. The first hour of the meet was really just holding down the canopy

[mellow sonnet]

first hour of the meet

[desert stirrup]

Guys

I can explain

Ok I can’t

I was just being forgetful

Their spro was hella dialed in

The Gia Hue latte (the osmanthus one) fucking slapped. So crushable

I get it

Mandarin 2 lives up to the hype completely

Also!!

It was a true pleasure feeding you all once again

It is a an honor to hear so many of you enjoyed my efforts :’)

[crude citrus]

Your food lives up the hype

[desert stirrup]

Perry’s k*ddo likes my food

Fuck the Michelin guide

[vivid violet]

the gear is always so amazing to see. thank you all for the treks and hauling it all.

That power bank + solar panel was amazing, Erik.

kettle me this, batman !

[crude citrus]

Hey who left their hoop thing here? It was on top of the compost bin

Also thanks all for contributing to our compost

[mellow sonnet]

i didnt eat enough at the meet im too caffinated now

[left kite]

Caffeine munchies

[mellow sonnet]

making curry for dinner 🫡 snacking on fruits while i wait though

[left kite]

Hear me out - small apple chunks in curry go crazy

[crude citrus]

I didn’t eat enough either. Too close to dinner now. I’m feeling like an Allen Tran that can crush 4 in n out 4x4s

[mellow sonnet]

yessir im putting apples in

when i was little i hated it bc they the same shape as potato and u dont know what it is until u bite

but now i just like it

[crude citrus]

That’s an actual thing in Japan

[left kite]

Yessir, that was my first time experiencing it when I was there 2 years ago and I’ve done it everytime since

[left kite]

This is what threw me off at first until I was like actually now that I know its p good

[spiral arrow]

it looked like a fun event

hopefully this noob can join in the future

so yall can school me on things

[mellow sonnet]

Just brew and taste

And then adjust

Repeat

[tight gorge]

It’s ok, meet ups are usually clog city since we don’t brew with our normal setups

Vibe brewing

[left kite]

Vibe souping

[mellow sonnet]

also glad i brought my 2 carafes on a whim bc i dont think anybody brought carafes

[spiral arrow]

HOLY SHIT
someone found a dead mouse in Din Tai Fung togo order..

WARNING the photos contain the said mouse.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/din-tai-fung-glendale-6?q=rat

(might not work on mobile)

wTF

obviously, it can be fake.. but.. looks pretty legit to me

If you are brave enough to see the photos.. let me know what you think.

it's sooo easy to fake these though

[tall frigate]

The response from DTF is great

[spiral arrow]

as in, someone can easily dump a dead mouse in, for a photo

[vivid violet]

oh barf

[vivid violet]

it's because they went to the Glendale one, and not o.g. Arcadia

[amber inlet]

holding it down at eaf

[vivid violet]

it does kinda look real, from 1 month ago.

I'm sure they would have worked to remove it if they could, as yelp is always blackmailing businesses for that

[amber inlet]

thanks for hosting @crude citrus

[buoyant marlin]

Looks like a good turnout, glad you didn't all fly away in the wind. 🌪️

[desert stirrup]

Very true especially for sweeter curries like Japanese curry!

[desert stirrup]

Dude this brewer was fucking gorgeous

Also

Guys

Today is nothing but bangers

[mellow sonnet]

odz from thailand

good luck

[desert stirrup]

EAF meetup > Mandarin 2 > now Taqueria Frontera

So good I went back for 2 more

[mellow sonnet]

eaf > trader joes > curry

[desert stirrup]

Maybe the best tacos I’ve ever had

Holy shit

The pastor was acidic and smoky and tender. The asada had good bite, stupid smoke flavor, and fatty

Good heavens

The birria also was a fucking banger

This and Tire Shop Taqueria are my top picks

I did not expect this to be that much better than the average street taco.

Wild

[vivid violet]

ah, I went to Mandarin V60 for their ramen

[civic crest]

Took my parents to sei

@mellow sonnet what is that shirt? Sashiko stitching?

[mellow sonnet]

yes sashiko kinda

from an indian brand but the overall stitching style is considered sashiko

[tight gorge]

Avg street taco bad tho. Frontera top dawg in LA

[neon scaffold]

yup

asada molita is also insane

[short condor]

Probably me 🤦‍♂️

[eternal birch]

yeems 3

[bronze mural]

NGL, I wish we made pizza with @crude citrus’s Ooni 😅 I was so hungry on my way back

[crude citrus]

If I’m not hosting the next meetup, I’m bringing the Ooni

[drowsy knot]

burger king ramen for us tonight 😂

[crude citrus]

Please share more secrets about your youth

[cedar otter]

Fomo is real

[crude citrus]

How was your event?

[cedar silo]

Great meeting everyone at the meetup! Brews were 💯

[cedar otter]

It went well! Pretty busy

[short condor]

Did they bring anything interesting to brew ?

[cedar otter]

We had Panama Los Origin geisha roasted by Noon Coffee in Taiwan

and Finca Sophia auction stuff by Tanat

best $20 value lol

[tough locust]

yeah, top tier taco in LA

looks like y'all had a great meet! hope I can make it to the next one!

[raw oak]

This is the ODZ in Black Daisy 😊

[desert stirrup]

The avg street taco is what it is, cheap, hot, street food.

You’re very right though that putting Frontera in the same category as street tacos is disrespectful

[desert stirrup]

How did you buy it? Did you just DM them on insta?

Website just says “contact us”

Why is everyone gatekeeping their prices these days??!!

[raw oak]

The guy who runs the IG page replies bit sporadically. I bought this dripper almost a year ago for around $160. Not including international shipping 😬

[cedar otter]

Whoa hello there

[raw oak]

Hey there, Bryan. I’m finally a cool kid now 😭

[bitter kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/deadmau5-wink-winking-winking-with-both-eyes-wink-wink-gif-19843914

[solid ferry]

If by "cool kid" you mean "enthusiast" 😂 🚀

[bitter kestrel]

Late, but seconding and fifthing the thanks for hosting @crude citrus ! Speaking of cool kids, as a baby coffee n00b, it was so nice to be allowed to hang with all you cool kids and learn a ton. Also shout out to the handful of woman who braved the sausage party (literally, thanks @desert stirrup !) Hope we continue to get more diverse gender representation on EAF.

[amber inlet]

i love seeing the community grow! chatted with @crude citrus yesterday to align about hosting a meetup in silverlake (same place we hosted the meticulous event), i’ll check in with yall about some potential dates, want to make sure the meetups are evenly spaced so we get a solid turnout

[neon scaffold]

Was only 2 blocks away had to do a hype investigation

[short condor]

This LA marathon sure is shitting on traffic today 🤦‍♂️

[boreal solar]

Passes the look test. The glaze looks a little heavy. How is it?

[neon scaffold]

Filling was ridiculously heavy on the almond croissant. Honestly everything was fine I wouldn’t go out of my way to stop there but nothing bad

[desert stirrup]

That’s not too bad. My dragon V60 was like $225 total after paying so many people in like 2-3 different countries to get it to me

It’s a shame I’m a broke boy

I’d drop $160 for a dripper as a flex on the normie guests

[dull adder]

@turbid herald your Shoebox Mario Hervas got left behind and I have it

[desert stirrup]

Wait are you the woman who had the Orea negotiator folding aid prototype?

I think someone left the white one behind and I snagged it!

I’ll try it out and see how it performs with wavy and flat filters!

[bronze mural]

@cedar otter I’m going to stop by Ondo in Artesia for the first time! It’s on my way home from a run club 😎☕️

[bronze mural]

The strawberry jam flavor notes on this pour over slapped - really glad I stopped by!

[shadow torrent]

idyllwild-ing the right way

surprisingly this was much less stressful than my previous travel experiences with this machine

probably because the idea of espresso has gotten simplified in my mind over time, and that i wasn't pulling consecutive shots, it was a much more zen experience

[dull adder]

Check out Black Mountain Coffee Roasting
They have a 1960s machine. And they also had the coffee aroma tool from Squeaky coffee which was crazy to see in the wild

[raw oak]

Yes 😊
Let me know what you think!

[dull adder]

The coffee isn't great though 😅

[lone pier]

yo who was my dawg that brought the sausages those things smacked

[dull adder]

Avocado. Who we talk with about JPEGMAFIA

[lone pier]

nice meeting everyone! ty for hosting @crude citrus ur goated man ❤️🤘

[lone pier]

ah and you had the robot right? so many cool people haha

[dull adder]

No I brought one of the Argos and Lagom Casa. And an Oxo which I was brewing soups with all day

I think @neon scaffold brought the Robot

[glossy sail]

Mandarin 3.5

[lone pier]

wait then who hosted!? 🤣

[dull adder]

Oh no he's checking out the Ozik

[lone pier]

met too many legends yesterday gg

[vivid violet]

brave soul 😂

[crude citrus]

My pleasure hosting guys. Happy to pass on and help whoever would like to host next

@desert stirrup wife legit wants to order those sausages. DM me your prices

[drowsy knot]

that's actually very kind and I'm not a harsh judge 😂

[desert stirrup]

Tis me! The bearded brown man with shades who really liked your pants

[desert stirrup]

Is that CoffeeChiro's The All?

[shadow torrent]

yeah I figured. i had my caffeine fix already so didn't stop

Shala has some great tea

[desert stirrup]

Just the sausages or the entire pastry?

[left kite]

I do needa know what brand of that guava paste you used it was so good

[desert stirrup]

Yes absolutely!

Quick question, is this printed out of PLA or PETG or another filament altogether? I don't want to put too hot of water on it when negotiating the wave filters and deform it!

[turbid herald]

Whoops - wasn’t too much of it - so feel free to drink or share it with someone.

[desert stirrup]

I used Goya's guava paste! It's a very reduced version of guava jam. When R&Ding the guava topping I found guava jam from Bonne Mama or any other jam brand could become a bit too loose especially when baked from room temp or if the brand is more fluidic. I like using the paste then blending it with hot water or whisking it with water in a saucier/sauce pot over low to get the sweetness and texture I want.

The Bonne Mama guava jam works great though! I'm quite finnicky and wanted to reduce the margin of error in terms of leakage so that's why I started from paste. I wanted my product to look good for you all! Sadly even a few of my kolaches leaked :'(

If you start from jam and are worried about leaks try keeping it in the fridge or even freezer prior or just make the divets a bit deeper or wider in case the jam wants to cause issues in the oven. You can also just use the paste without modifications. Many latin pastries do that, most famously pastelito de guyaba! The flavor will be more intense and texture will be firmer. For kolaches that could work! I just wanted to honor the tradition of using a jammy texture topping and having a topping that still isn't completely firm or gelatinous after baking. I wanted a slight drippy if the Kolache was tilted.

There are many routes for success!

Thankfully guavas are naturally high in pectin and hold their flavor very well through cooking processes. So I think raw paste, thinned paste, or jam you're bound to have a pretty damn tasty product

[mellow sonnet]

Guys go refill your cars before tomorrow 106$/barrel crude oil

Gas prices about to go up when market opens on Monday if it doesn't come down soon

[boreal solar]

Wife just gave a talk at CSUFresno last week. It’s already $6 a gallon in the valley. It’s coming for you. Thank god we have an ev 😅

[mellow sonnet]

5.90 in fountain valley rn

LA should be 6ish

Oil jumped up 17% over this weekend when futures market just opened a few hours ago though

[boreal solar]

It’s about 4-6 depending on the gas station in Rancho.

average is like 4.70.

[mellow sonnet]

I remember when OC had 3$ gas at the start of covid I was super commuter 2hr to the hospital

[surreal pivot]

Glad I went electric 😅

[earnest robin]

Did you get futures

[mellow sonnet]

I don't touch futures

Just looking bc I hold USO oil etf thatll move on open

[earnest robin]

Make money on the war like a real billionaire

[desert stirrup]

Bro in Texas that shit was legit a dollar

I still remember junior year of college refilling at the station and seeing a $12 bill

[dull adder]

Probably a good call, we're doing that now.
I've been unsuccessful in convincing her of a second EV

Also gonna set her up a profile in my car and let her take the EV to work

Somehow gas and oil changes continues to be my problem lol

[bitter kestrel]

Just got traded for an EX90 yesterday. Excited to never go to a gas station again. She can test drive anytime.

[dull adder]

Nice I was wondering how that went!

Hopefully the software has been polished

[desert stirrup]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1422337525742765/?mibextid=wwXIfr

I know nothing about roasting but this looks like a cool set up for sale

[vivid violet]

anyone have any good handyman refs for someone who does work in the Pasadena area ?

if so, would you DM me ?

need some can lights looked at, and a few other items.

[boreal solar]

What are they doing? If it’s an easy fix #1259302341786599435 maybe able to help you out

[raw oak]

PLA plus!

[mellow sonnet]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/915385537514470/

if anybody wants to get scammed

thats an insane price but i guess if u really want an alpha

[cedar otter]

dude @glossy sail I heard u got theall

[mellow sonnet]

yeah this one

[glossy sail]

lol

[cedar otter]

Congrats

[mellow sonnet]

Heard u were looking at it too before u went p80

[bronze mural]

Excellent choice! We will either go for that one, or Polestar 3 next. So much bang for the buck in terms of features, overall comfort and range

[mellow sonnet]

Was hoping to see his Titus but apparently he sold the Titus to buy the all

Got to try his versalab tho and it was tasty

Very noisy thou rip

[dull adder]

I think this is the first time I've ever heard bang for the buck about a 100k car

Unless I'm off on price lol. Maybe I was only seeing prices for top trim or something

[cedar otter]

Yeah

Even before eg-1 actually

[bronze mural]

You can get 2025 EX90 models for ~70k on Carvana and other dealers. But the features on that car are excellent - well above its price point.

[dull adder]

I meant the Polestar 3 but honestly I'm not too familiar with either

[bronze mural]

Both are very similar (Polestar was bought by Volvo, and they share many similarities between vehicles).

But yes, the P3 is more expensive, a bit harder to find a used one as well

[bitter kestrel]

Great! I had the XC90 Recharge for four years and loved it. No issues at all. They seem to have fixed a lot of the 2025 problems with the EX. Might have gone Rivian but really wanted that Volvo comfort. Any in case anyone thinks I'm a fancy boy, only went with these chariots for the business tax double-dip deduction.

[bronze mural]

Very smart purchase when its tax deductible 🙂 Congratulations!

[tight gorge]

I hear the cabin is super quiet and the speaker thump!

[bitter kestrel]

Fo sho. You know those Bowers & Wilkins's be thumping my sensitive indie folk all over the 'burbs.

[desert stirrup]

Very clean my man

What happens to the P80 that you got recently now?

[mellow sonnet]

It's gone already

[tall frigate]

I wouldn't buy Rivian

I drive a gen 1 quad motor R1T. It's a great truck, but it's only worth it at the insane lease deal I got.

It is 100% not worth the current $100k+ price tag

Tons of early adopter bugs and issues

Poor fit and finish on assembly

At least the service network is better now. I had to drive 3 hours round trip to Eastvale to get it serviced when I first picked it up.

[desert stirrup]

So fast!

[mellow sonnet]

Well too many grinders is impractical

[vivid violet]

not an R2 either ? seems better engineered

also, the gen1 R1's are known to be pretty janky

[mellow sonnet]

I just know insurance hates Rivian and will declare them totalled super fast

[crude citrus]

Hates EV*

[vivid violet]

only a slight bend in the battery pack ? TOTALED.

[mellow sonnet]

R1T had insane body panel issues and the panels cost a lot so even if it was a minor hit to the panel your car could get totaled

Cabin and bed shared panels instead of being separated like most trucks

[boreal solar]

Cake, chocolate and mochi?

[mellow sonnet]

Is this the gen Z chocopie?

[eternal birch]

idk we have like pallets of that shit

no one eats it

[mellow sonnet]

Nice Ikea tray I have the same one

[eternal birch]

first brew with ss o1 though

in a paper cup

its really good, sweet

good body

I think it kinda kills the intricate flavors though

probably same observation of conical vs flat

@mellow sonnet do you melodrip on your flat bottoms?

[mellow sonnet]

Not really

But also I don't flat that often

[eternal birch]

yeah I don't think I'll use it too often as well, but it is a nice to have

[mellow sonnet]

I went back to trying a traditional spro today

Didn't work bc I'm on HU burrs

[eternal birch]

this is why u need 3 grinders

so you never have this issue

[mellow sonnet]

This is why I used to keep the niche zero around

[eternal birch]

return to niche zero

[mellow sonnet]

Ode w ssp MP for filter, L01 for spro, NZero for traditional

I hate that I really liked the versalab shot I tried

[boreal solar]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1524684235660908/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[desert stirrup]

Damn should’ve brought it on Saturday! I’m sure it would’ve been gone quick!

[livid plover]

More info on what we’re doing and programming to come soon!

[tall frigate]

Definitely a simplified vehicle by comparison. I still worry that all their software and fit and finish issues will extend to a new product line as well.

[tall frigate]

My friend got a small dent in his rear quarter that couldn’t just be pulled and they totaled the truck because the unibody construction requires removal of basically half the car.

[mellow sonnet]

Yeah that unibody fucked so many people over I'm surprised they didn't fix it after a few months

[cedar otter]

Damn my dad went to holbox without me

[crude citrus]

I thought HU is good for traditional spro?

[compact hound]

@surreal pivot CFA fries getting reverted!

[tight gorge]

Hype! Kamavindi maybe?!?

[livid plover]

I doubt we’ll have Kamavindi yet unfortunately

We’ll have a lot of coffee though!

[mellow sonnet]

I even went back to stock breville basket maybe I shouldve gone finer

[tight gorge]

Do we email now or will there a more formal process later?

[surreal pivot]

The timing is funny because I deleted the app the other day and GF got me to commit to eating cleaner at least until my birthday 😂

[compact hound]

I forgot how good this combo is

[livid plover]

Can’t hurt to RSVP now!

[tight gorge]

done!

[compact hound]

Oh sheet about to rsvp to

Which day you rsvp’ing for @tight gorge

[tight gorge]

Friday!

[boreal solar]

I don’t think it’s bad. But it’s a personal choice.

[mellow sonnet]

I did for Sunday 👀

[neon scaffold]

any recs at mandarin 12? goin for the first time on weds

[glossy sail]

Uhhh

Gui hua latte haha

[tight gorge]

cortado

[left kite]

whatever they got on the slow bar

[glossy sail]

1 and 1 at mandarin

[neon scaffold]

thanks yall

[crude citrus]

Sicily

[neon scaffold]

guess im just gonna have to go a few more times and drink the menu

[dull adder]

Well crap do I go for Friday or Sunday? 😅

Kinda feeling Sunday since those days are normally pretty low energy at cons

[mellow sonnet]

Sunday is for buying equipment

[bitter kestrel]

I didn't specify a date since it didn't say to. I don't think they'll turn you away

[compact hound]

Heard that’s not the case this year

Don’t know if its 100% true though

[mellow sonnet]

Tariffs hit that hard?

[compact hound]

That was my guess as well when i found out

[tight gorge]

We don’t even know what it is lol

What if all you can do is sniff unroasted greens

@wild hawk what’s the toxic supplement that’s gives you unlimited caffeine tolerance

[wild hawk]

Rutaecarpine

But that shit is not great for human flesh prisons

[compact hound]

I eat mcdonalds like twice a week I think i’ll be fine

[dull adder]

I was thinking about posting it up here. And buying a bottle

[wild hawk]

Tbh I haven't done enough validation of the risk studies

[dull adder]

The Amazon listing suggests taking a pill every night before bed

[wild hawk]

I shouldn't repost them here

[tall frigate]

that's lke cocaine and alcohol

never black out

[tight gorge]

Facts

I’ll just run a deep research overnight and let AI dictate whether I get permanent liver damage or not

[tall frigate]

Don't worry about it. I'll get you the inside track on a new one.

[tight gorge]

I’m a donor too. We have each others back on this

[tall frigate]

I keep mine in a jar on the shelf

just in case I need it later

[desert stirrup]

Are 80mm HU burrs that drastically different from 64mm? Cuz on 64mm HU builds pressure super easily!

[mellow sonnet]

Well ssp fuck you because HU on 64 is different on other sizes

Also built pressure fine imo just didn't taste like a good traditional shot

[desert stirrup]

Gas prices aren’t shabby where I’m at rn

[mellow sonnet]

Yeah bc trump declared victory and oil prices went from 120 to 85/barrel

[desert stirrup]

What changed recently? I’m not in the know about this whatsoever

[mellow sonnet]

I think it's fake news bc why would he randomly declare victory here but I guess the market sees otherwise

[dull adder]

#1228081171649400912 message

[desert stirrup]

I agree. This is tasty!

[mellow sonnet]

Without getting deep into politics, Iran says the strait is open to any country that kicks out all of their American diplomats. The strait def isn't open and that oil is def not coming out so idk why trump says the war is over and that he won

[dull adder]

Because they use doublespeak as their mother tongue

[desert stirrup]

Wait wut. I did not know this

This is upsetting

[dull adder]

Lol really?
Yeah 64HU, 80HU, 98HU are all very different

[mellow sonnet]

SSP MP is closer to HU in other sizes

[desert stirrup]

God damn the news moves too fast for me

[mellow sonnet]

As much as twitter is a shithole, just flag anything that upsets you as irrelevant or in my case anything that isn't news. Then it actually becomes a high quality stream of fast news

[desert stirrup]

Ok wait I’m stopped walking and am just reading

I was walking and catching up on the discord

Yeah I’m dumb ok now I understand

[desert stirrup]

Ok here’s a question that I’ve always wondered but never got to experience, how different or what changes as you increase in burr size?

I understand the particle distribution becomes more consistent due to the larger cutting surfaces

[dull adder]

Does it though?

[desert stirrup]

! ! !

Idk!

[desert stirrup]

Should I learn the truth now or when I have Ozik money???

[boreal solar]

Not always. Geometry is just as important as size.

[earnest robin]

https://www.iranmonitor.org/

I just read the summary here

And click on references

[dull adder]

Maybe don't worry till you have money? Or find a way to try grinders for free

[earnest robin]

What way

Teach us

[dull adder]

Hoping Avo figures that out

[earnest robin]

I thought we get perfect spheres of coffee

[bitter kestrel]

Let's ruin this thread with open-cell discourse!

[mellow sonnet]

The only major difference is it grinds faster and theres less heat from the friction

Does the heat matter? In a commercial setting yes. In a home setting debatable.

[earnest robin]

How do you open them? With pairing knife?

Or bleach

[earnest robin]

At home you can always drop a bean one by one

[mellow sonnet]

Which defeats the idea of faster grind time

But yes u could do that

[compact hound]

2024 they decided to coat the fries in pea starch to give it an artificial crispiness so it could hold up when it steams in a to go bag

Just completely ruined the flavor of the fries and the texture wasn’t even good

[desert stirrup]

Hahahaha

A clever man indeed

Utilize the broke boi

I’ll try to figure something out!

[desert stirrup]

I understand. At the same time it sounds like SSP changes the geometry of the burr as the size increases yet keeps the same nomenclature

[earnest robin]

Does SSP know what they are doing? I thought that guy just cuts burrs on vibes

[weary chasm]

I thought the burrs they do sell take inspiration from existing products

[mellow sonnet]

Avo so new to coffee he doesn't know ssp lore yet

Hansung changes geometry on a whim without changing the version or name

[earnest robin]

And names with wheel of fortune

Or d20

[desert stirrup]

I don’t understand the concept of fast food in large cities. I think the idea of fast food makes little to no sense in a metropolitan like LA or Bangkok or Paris. There are so many other late night or 24/7 restaurants and street food vendors selling food around the same price or less with the same, or even better, food quantity and quality.

[mellow sonnet]

Same burrs 3 years apart have different breaker length and finishing teeth lengths

It's a fat mess

[desert stirrup]

Outside of In n Out I don’t think I’ve eaten fast food in LA since I’ve moved here

[desert stirrup]

Bruh I hope not

[earnest robin]

Watch his interviews

[desert stirrup]

But don’t we have almost no scientific literature on burr geometry?

[earnest robin]

He is pure artist

[mellow sonnet]

Well there's no proven scientific correlation

Literally cut and try and taste

Coffee harvests are different every year anyway so why does it matter

[desert stirrup]

I’m just nit dialed into the lore! I try to save lore when needed. Rn, I’m too broke to even consider anything related to burrs and 80mm+ grinders

[mellow sonnet]

Why do you think people crave OG Titus or pre-2015 EK burrs

Nobody wants to bother

[desert stirrup]

Oh! Ok ok ok

This makes sense now!

Cuz I wondered why anyone would stick with EK shit

[mellow sonnet]

Whatever happened to linglong pre-15 replicas that were 3D scanned

[desert stirrup]

Yeah I guess I’ll learn the grinder and burr lore when I want to move on from my Z1. Rn it’s cool to swap between HU, CV3s, and MP.

[mellow sonnet]

People move up in burr size not bc it's better but curiosity I feel like

I had no problems w 64 other than slow and curious what bigger was like

[eternal birch]

we have some dope "fast food" joints though

dopeness depends on the person

[mellow sonnet]

I like raising Cane's bread but there's no canes super close to me

[eternal birch]

but like tommy's, dinos, that one hardshell taco place

name blanked on me but people hate on it

there's a different hardshell taco place I do wanna try though

[mellow sonnet]

None of my OC friends care about food as much as any of my LA friends do

[earnest robin]

Same

98mm is so expensive to experiment

[left kite]

I legit have the opposite lol

my OC friends care a lot more abt food but the LA ones are w/e on it

[desert stirrup]

I saw the birth and rise of raising canes in Texas. Back then I never understood the hype, and today I still don’t. Them expanding into LA and the rest of the country further irks me.

Their food is so poor quality even when compared to their fast food peers. I simply would never pick Canes over another option back in bum fuck Texas and more so in LA

[mellow sonnet]

My OC friends only care about kbbq or kei concept restaurants but there really isn't that much there

And chubby group I guess

[desert stirrup]

I agree!! I try to explore and taste at least once even though I’m not a fast food guy.

Like El Pollo Loco is pretty cool. That and Fat Burger I find not too shabby

[mellow sonnet]

Me and my friends try to hit all the chubby places just once to say we went but really it's whatever

[surreal pivot]

Canes is absolute shit 😂

[earnest robin]

What is chubby? I only was at their all you can eat place in DTLA

[eternal birch]

chubby group 💀

KC is w/e idk why OC people think its god next coming

[earnest robin]

And it was because my friend saw a hype post and wanted to do his birthday there

[left inlet]

I'd like to find out more about the Sey event. I buy Sey quite often at Neighborhood Coffee and would definitely like to attend. I think there's going to be a Jonathan Gagne event that I want to make sure doesn't present a time conflict. I sent you a DM. Thanks!

[compact hound]

Chuys?

[compact hound]

Kei concepts is so shit

[glossy sail]

welcome to SSP naming buffoonery

[left kite]

it really do be, just fun to do once and kinda overpriced to do often lol

kei concept super mid too

[compact hound]

Kei concepts is just a safe pick for asian americans to take their parents out to boujee restaurants without them complaining bc the flavors are familiar (for some of them)

[mellow sonnet]

Kei is ok but overpriced for nep. The others are whatever

[surreal pivot]

@glossy sail you were in Honolulu recently right?

[compact hound]

My parents hate literally everything besides chinese restaurants

[left kite]

I think the only one from Kei I like is sup bc bottomless noodle refills

[glossy sail]

yes sir

[surreal pivot]

By chance did you try Yakitori Ando?

[glossy sail]

80mm is the sweet spot maybe lol

[eternal birch]

think so

[earnest robin]

How much are the burrs

[glossy sail]

nope

[glossy sail]

250-350ish

[eternal birch]

NAM kitchen isnt KC right

[glossy sail]

i will say, very very very very prelim, but ssp 83mm ES burrs are goated

[surreal pivot]

Damn. Reservation is really hard to get. Seems worth the effort but wanted to confirm

[glossy sail]

i dont know if you can buy the ES burrs. might be ozik only. not sure... but its really good

[compact hound]

Nah its a kei rip off haha

Actually went to NAM with my dad and he said it was way better than the vietnamese restaurant we’ve been going to since I was alive

Called him out though bc he never returned after the one time we went

He just digged the vibes

[cedar otter]

Ondo 6

[compact hound]

I thought dinos was so bad

Pollo a la brasa so much better

Very diff but still

[glossy sail]

just checked KC SUP noodle stuff but wtf is

+0.5 ADD A SOUS VIDE EGG TO YOUR PHO Slow poached egg to add milky flavor to your broth. // +2 ADD A NUMBING SENSATION House made mala chili oil! // +1 15.5 MAKE YOUR PHO SPICY House made chili paste with lemongrass. // +1

adding a sous vide egg to your pho broth

is wild

my mom would die.

[left kite]

I literally just get a cheap bowl and go to town on noodles 💀

[mellow sonnet]

Kei is mid and bc the noodles are unlimited it just taste mid

[glossy sail]

sichuan is so far from vietnam for mala ... also dont add that to your pho

[mellow sonnet]

Kei is Viet iirc

[glossy sail]

just cause mala is all the recent hype doesnt mean it should be added to everything holy moly

[mellow sonnet]

They're all Viet fusions tho

[left kite]

think the only one not a viet fusion is ini

[mellow sonnet]

Is their coffee shop Viet fusion

It's in West Minister

[left kite]

I think its just asian fusion in general but it gets the viet fusion for being matcha focused in westminister I think 💀

[glossy sail]

oh yeaaaa lol

[short condor]

I just watch foreign channels and TikTok’s it’s more accurate and less bullshit and I find out sooner.

[vivid violet]

what's even more crazy is.. i saw somewhere that SSP slightly changed the 64 mm HU burrs.

so the "old" ones are slightly different from the "new" ones

[mellow sonnet]

You find out soonest on whatever platform you use the most. Just be intentional with where they're citing their news tbh