#Los Angeles/OC/San Diego 🌈

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cedar otter
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yeah this show is smart bc they use 4 exhibition halls. 2 on each floor. the bottom floor is all the sandwiches and the casual stuff

eternal birch
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how was KR pastry game

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whats the trend

cedar otter
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the top 2 floor was all specialty coffee

cedar otter
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only had coffee

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my pee smells like coffee everyday

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shio-pan is everywhere

compact hound
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At junia expresser

proven anchor
mellow sonnet
solid ferry
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I anti-hope for this

cold apex
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update: hironori was good. appreciate the small details of the place. garlic and spicy add-ons being free ruled. small portion sizes, felt a little jipped getting like 6 cubes of tofu for $2.50 extra

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def expensive. broth was bomb. noodles clung to it really well. chashu was bomb. just wish there was 3 cuts instead of 2

mellow sonnet
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Yeah it's good but expensive

cold apex
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for ~$20 a bowl i'd go to other spots but i didn't leave dissatisfied whatsoever

mellow sonnet
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Can't speak on portions bc I don't eat a lot šŸ’€

cold apex
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i dont eat a lot either ive got a tiny stomach lol

mellow sonnet
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There's a hironori in Pasadena I haven't been to yet either bc I've been trying other spots so far

cold apex
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i wouldnt be surprised if this location in particular has stiffer portions bc of the area

cold apex
mellow sonnet
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Damn the egg prices went up since I last went

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It was 1$ before

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Egg shortage hit them hard I guess

cold apex
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cant imagine its to the point where they're losing profit on them

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although idk restaurant egg prices

mellow sonnet
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I thought most people returned egg prices to lower when the shortage stopped

cold apex
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def going to phoholic next. love that its open late so we could snag a bowl after the ducks game

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šŸ¦†

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sometimes inconvient to leave at 330-400 for a 700 game just to eat and sit in rush hour traffic

mellow sonnet
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Phoholic 2 is my fave

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1 kinda ghetto

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3 is mid

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Although 3 is the only one w clean floors that doesn't feel like I will slip and fall

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2 is in Stanton and 3 is in Costa Mesa the South coast plaza location

tight gorge
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3 days in my house and I already need to replace my sewer line. Winning!

mellow sonnet
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Lasting longer than me

short condor
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Vulcan Panama geshas from 2018/2019 crop are still the best coffees I’ve had to date.

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When you’re asked if you want still or sparking it’s implied that they’re both complimentary if my opinion but never is sadly.

eternal birch
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idgi but I thought filtered was for sure free, maybe they just mischarged us for still

short condor
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But kimbo in Naples is 🤤

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Coffee fest use to be good but it sucked ever since it left the reef location. Now it’s just corporate bullshit left and right.

mellow sonnet
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Speaking of phoholic it's coming to sgv

fallen gulch
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someone remember to screenshot when the thread hits 42069 messages tonight

tight gorge
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we need 52 messages

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time

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to

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spam

mellow sonnet
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I don't even know where the count is

short condor
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Mmmmm spam

tight gorge
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42023

short condor
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I’ll keep cash In your pocket, sell me your pietro 😈

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I just added up all the other sections combined in the coffee events categories and the only had 14325 give or take a few compared to this groups now 42025 comments.

compact hound
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Apollonias 2nd location open

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Parking situation is better

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Time to refresh my memory soon

fallen gulch
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wait don't threads have a message count cap or something? I remember that we're on at least bana number two now

dull adder
crude citrus
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Does everyone use the Acaia Pearl for PO?

dull adder
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I do. Mine is kinda not that responsive to touch inputs?

crude citrus
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Bc i feel like if im gonna spend that much I might as well get a Walmart paragon aka timemore black mirror duo

boreal solar
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I use my lunar for pour over. 02 and smaller it’s doable tbh

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Not ideal but I don’t really want another scale.

compact hound
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Lowkey want the fellow tally ngl

short condor
earnest robin
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I have never done smog test and my car will be more than 8 years old next year. I got aftermarket intake in it and I'm kind of lazy to swap to the stock. How strict are smog checks with non CARB intakes?

mellow sonnet
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Pearl and paragon 🫔

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I think tally is a great scale tbh but I like how easy the pearl is to wipe down

short condor
mellow sonnet
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Yeah if u know a guy they can "test" for u

earnest robin
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I'll probably just swap to stock if I have to drive to Glendale lol
It takes 30 minutes to swap and an hour to get to Glendale

short condor
dull adder
mellow sonnet
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Pearl got easier to clean when I stopped using the heat pad kekcry

earnest robin
short condor
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In Glendale you can find people that will ā€œtestā€ for more money plenty of cars with new registration that couldn’t pass a smog to save their life

earnest robin
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Maybe I can get a fake carb number

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It's obd check anyway. And it's super boring car

dull adder
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You definitely don't need to go to Glendale lmao. There's sketchy shops all over. I think last time I physically went into a shop it was in Inglewood? And the last time I did this I paid someone through insta and didn't have to drive anywhere

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But sorry I don't have any connects atm

dull adder
# earnest robin These cones intakes in a plastic cold box

Also sorry but this doesn't really help clarify. K&N has an easy to find form for this, and sells cone in a box types: https://www.knfilters.com/replacement-carb-eo-decal-request

If you bought some random ebay special then yeah good luck. Ultimately this part of the policy is pretty stupid but it is what it is. As it's a visual inspection you could likely pass that part regardless.
And of course you can always just register in Nevada and the mod as much as you want lol

crude citrus
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Plus there’s no pour over mode? Unless I’m mistaken? It keeps doing auto tare or time stop

earnest robin
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It's not random shop but they stated clearly it's not carb. I didn't know what that meant at that time

dull adder
earnest robin
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How will you register out of state without being a resident or owning business there? Does Nevada allow that

dull adder
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I can ask a friend, idk exact details. Some people I know own property there so it's easy for them. But some I know for sure don't lol. Probably only worth if you're really modding and tuning a lot

crude citrus
crude citrus
dull adder
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Last thing I'll say is be careful as you can flag your car if you fail a few times. But probably just go to a random shop in town you feel less safe in, and they wont care about the visual check. And it'll be cheaper

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aaand

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hehe funny number message count

glossy sail
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niceeee

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milestone moment for this thread lol

weary chasm
cedar otter
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Patrick rolf on some coal shit

solid ferry
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Is this the 32nd flavor?

fallen gulch
boreal solar
civic crest
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How about that thunder last night

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Felt like I was back in the Midwest haha

tight gorge
boreal solar
neon scaffold
mellow sonnet
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is prodigal good again? i got a bag of COE honduras and its actually good

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bought bc i havent had honduras in over a year but im actually impressed w prodigal roasting

boreal solar
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I don’t think they were ever bad. Closer to inconsistent. I’ve had some good bags.

glossy sail
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Felt like some prodigal roasts were a little too developed

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But I haven't had prodigal in a while. Year or so.

dull adder
boreal solar
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I also feel like development doesn’t mean bad. Just not your preference.

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Unless we’re talking a black oily mess

neon scaffold
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If anyone gets overwhelmed with their aviary sub and wants to sell a bag lmk I wanna try some, never have tasted

boreal solar
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I paid like 50 for a standard smog check yesterday

desert stirrup
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It’s worth it, just buy one new!

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Sometimes they’ll pop up on the buy sell channel

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That way you don’t have to season 5kg by hand šŸ’€

desert stirrup
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@crude citrus just stop. You can’t reverse time.

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Accept the unc card

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You even have a ||wife|| and ||kid||

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That’s mega unc

crude citrus
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Bro keeping tabs on who reacts and how now keknervous

desert stirrup
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I knew without even looking

desert stirrup
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A quick demonstration of the Pietro burrs being used in a Niche Zero using the CoffeeGearLab x FusedVisions burr adapter. The delicious, crisp, ultra high clarity coffee that the Pietro burrs can deliver will soon be available without all the hand gr...

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mellow sonnet
mellow sonnet
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The niche also struggles with torque though because conicals generally run lower rpm than flats

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So you get less torque and u have to do jank shit to hold the pin down to hot start to help with the lack of torque

crude citrus
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Did he switch from the Stronghold? Or was it a Loring? I can’t keep up

dull adder
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Stronghold S9X to Roest P3000

compact hound
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@eternal birch junia po not bad not great

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I would just stick with the drip

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I also dont like fc

mellow sonnet
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Waymo on the freeway

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Kinda crazy to see

eternal birch
crude citrus
earnest robin
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Maybe they are testing it

compact hound
earnest robin
crude citrus
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You can call a Waymo in LA now. It’s been out for a couple years

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It’s just more expensive than uber

civic crest
vivid violet
# mellow sonnet

I had also seen a weird boxy one when picking up at Ondo, a few weeks ago..

compact hound
dull adder
dull adder
crude citrus
dull adder
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Comparing between air roasters is better.. but if you compare a drum to a fluid bed and only consider max batch size from the mfg it would seem more dramatic than it is in reality

boreal solar
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Its not that much faster though. The stronghold isn't really a tradational drum. One of the draws is that its faster than tradational drum roasters with improved back to back ability.

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I doubt it makes up for the batch limitation.

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its a three heat system.

dull adder
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I don't roast, and don't have experience with either machine. But if Feran is saying he's seeing the P3000 as 40% faster than the Stronghold then I believe him

boreal solar
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No denying its faster. I was just stating that it wouldn't offset the batch being less than half the size.

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There might be other reasons though. I haven't really had hands on experience with the roest beyond their sample models. I'm sure he likes something else about it.

earnest robin
crude citrus
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Link was exactly what I was looking for though, an explanation from Feran himself. Thanks for that

eternal birch
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technique gud?

eternal birch
dull adder
crude citrus
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That’s assuming you let the roaster cooldown all the way between roasts which I’m sure he doesn’t do 😃

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And I assume at least 10% the listed capacity is the max batch size across all roasters

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Unless for some reason you can only do like 50% on a SH vs 100% on a Roest. I really don’t know

weary chasm
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It's Christmas vibes season. Lol

earnest robin
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Oh, Sisu 2 was released today

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Sisu 1 was fun

weary chasm
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Dak panettone

earnest robin
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European coffees

neon scaffold
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mine is espresso roast tho so maybe it's irrelevant

weary chasm
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Mine says filter

neon scaffold
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yea

weary chasm
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Seems hard to brew coferment wrong.

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Its so strong. Any flaws get masked. Lol.

neon scaffold
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tru, will just be a matter of how coarse i can go on the espresso b4 it squirts at me

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i haven't had mny coferments but ive enjoyed all of them more as spro than filter so far

vivid violet
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just getting to trying this. super interesting flavor, it has a fruit and funk which is really neat.

it's exactly what i thought it would be šŸ˜…keknervous

thank you @cedar otter !

civic crest
compact hound
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I crushed 3 when i went

civic crest
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lol to be young

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i wanted to crush all three but i ate pieces of each and brought the rest home to my wife

desert stirrup
desert stirrup
civic crest
vivid violet
tight gorge
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I know from who I got my foodie gene when my mom says shes going to make pozole a day before I get there so peaks when we eat it

tight gorge
civic crest
tight gorge
short condor
short condor
surreal pivot
lunar fjord
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Oli Boli kinda went downhill

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QC off

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I try to go every time I'm back in Socal but the last 2-3 times have been disappointing

tight gorge
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funny that I love sidecar and oli boil founder came from there

desert stirrup
desert stirrup
desert stirrup
vivid violet
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American Sign Language

desert stirrup
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I ain’t no unc

tight gorge
desert stirrup
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Wut

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Idk what that is

tight gorge
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Iirc Chat with a friend was the og chat roulette

glossy sail
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Back to the days of AIM

neon scaffold
# desert stirrup Wut

Only old heads know. It means age/sex/location. us old folk would go online chat rooms w strangers from all over the world and you’d always ask asl to see who u were talking to

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(Everyone lied)

mellow sonnet
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Wait I know asl

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šŸ’€ am I old

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I think I was just a degen tho

earnest robin
cedar otter
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We got mandarin in seoul

crude citrus
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Wait it literally looks the same

lunar fjord
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lol extremely painful to know that asl and icq are old head things now

crude citrus
wild hawk
# dull adder If one machine has 6kg capacity and takes 5 minutes to roast and 5 minutes to wa...

Hi, someone sent me a link to this. You're making a ton of assumptions here, friend. Yes, I do let the machine cool down fully between batches to ensure starting drum temps match. After the stronghold "upgrade" this year (hardware + software) this takes an excessively long time. 5-6 min between batches. It just does not shed heat readily. I've had to change my roasting approach (evident in 017 on) to account for this. So for an 8-9 min roast plus 5 min between batches... we are looking at, best case, 4.5ish roasts per hour, or a throughput of 27kg of green at 6kg batches.

On the p3000, it performs better with full capacity batches and is much more efficient with heat, we can use lower air temps and avoid heating the drum, requiring only 30-60s between batches. For a 6 min roast plus 1 min BBP, we're at 8.5 roast per hour, or about 26kg per hour.

wild hawk
dull adder
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Ahhhh I was like??

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The assumptions in my message was just exaggerated examples, to show that throughput can't be looked at through the lens of a single variable like batch size

wild hawk
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Yeah, it's a foolish approach. For example: Diedrich IR-12 series. Ostensibly 12kg capacity but can't really do more than 7kg well, can't roast/cool simultaneously and the fastest sound BBP protocol is 7-8 minutes

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A 9 min roast plus 7min BBP = 3.75 batches per hour = 26kg. Better off with Roest P3000

weary chasm
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What do you do with old equipment? Do you sell it?

crude citrus
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Appreciate the clarification! Interesting that you let the machine cool down for consistency. Never thought of it that way even if it is at the expense of being able to roast more per hour

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Perhaps my question was taken out of context because it wasn’t a dig at you for changing roasters to a smaller one. You’re obviously much more knowledgeable than I am and I wanted to know why

cedar otter
crude citrus
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I’d like to attend one in person if he hosts one here

cedar otter
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Proper cooling of the drum for batch to batch consistency

cedar otter
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For me

earnest robin
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He talks about "between batch protocol"

crude citrus
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Yea I read it whenever I go to Ondo

cedar otter
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Haha

crude citrus
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I need to go more

cedar otter
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Good excuse

earnest robin
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I can send it to you

dull adder
crude citrus
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Idk but I actually like aviary šŸ˜‚

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I’m a little starstruck

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Back to regularly scheduled programming

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Of posting food with no context

crude citrus
earnest robin
wild hawk
cedar otter
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What I heard from Korean stronghold users is that they changed s9x’s preheat algorithm

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Before it would just preheat to the set temperatures. Apparently now overshoots and then ā€œcoolsā€ the temp down to what it’s set to

crude citrus
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And that fixes the issue? So the issue is hysteresis?

cedar otter
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No it created the issue

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I think they are overheating the drum

tight gorge
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Aviary USA tour

crude citrus
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He’s also invited to the next coffee meetup

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Maybe he could’ve told me at the last meetup that connecting a roaster on the same circuit as an espresso machine was a bad idea

glossy sail
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I think Scott said he might do something at SCA San Diego for 2026.

cedar otter
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Ondo might have some banging collabs around sca sd next year

glossy sail
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Need the socal Asian coffee shop owner collab lol

cedar otter
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I suggested Sherry to open a socal multi roaster booth lol

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Make all of our roaster partners brew at the booth

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But it’s so expensive

wild hawk
crude citrus
wild hawk
cedar otter
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Today is finally warm enough in Seoul to wander around with a hoodie

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High of 57 degrees

weary chasm
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ohh. option o having a black friday sale

crude citrus
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Fellow has a sale too on the stagg kettle kekcry

vivid violet
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so is September:
#retail-coffee message

vivid violet
crude citrus
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I bought it from Ondo keknervous

glossy sail
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Is this the move when you suffer from caffeine withdrawal at cruising altitude?

dull adder
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Yes if you can stomach the owner

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Are there any other good instant coffees?

glossy sail
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Not that I know of yet . . .

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Potentially meeting up with someone who's starting up a specialty instant coffee thing... I'll see...

fallen gulch
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there's a few specialty shops with instant nowadays but afaik they're considered brown by bana standards, and usually made with the blends I think

neon scaffold
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i haven't had a bad cup of coffee in a while i kind of want one just to remember what it's like

civic crest
glossy sail
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Take a sip of McDonald's coffee or Starbucks. Call it recalibrating taste buds.

neon scaffold
crude citrus
glossy sail
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I've been meaning to try hoa phat for the crispy pork ....

crude citrus
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The grilled pork isn’t like that traditional pork at other places. It’s strong in star anise so reminds me of Taiwanese beef

civic crest
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interesting

glossy sail
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I like banh mi my tho on valley/3rd for more traditional

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Tip is to get #2 - dac biet. It's all the cold cuts but my tho adds grilled pork (thit nuong) to it.

dull adder
civic crest
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i love the cold cuts with pate

neon scaffold
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im off for a few fridays for holidays il stop by next week if it's still happening day after thanksgiving

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o seems like they're starting again in december nvm

dull adder
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They're closed next week šŸ˜…

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Dec 1st they're doing a full catalog cupping. Then Dec 5th is the next friday at 10

neon scaffold
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i dont see it on the eventbrite calendar

dull adder
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1PM

dull adder
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Hmmm I never do their eventbrite signup, pretty sure it's not mandatory for that one

neon scaffold
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o ok nice, ill b there

cedar otter
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I’m gonna have 10x CoE coffee cupping
And a separate Panama geisha cupping

crude citrus
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And then I will spend more on drinks filters and beans

cedar otter
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I spent so much money on beans holy shit

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Might bring back esmeralda nido and longboard misty mountain if we have leftovers from tomorrow’s popup

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Nido is $90 for 15g keknervous

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6 bucks per gram

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But it’s amazeballs

crude citrus
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Lol it’s okay. Honestly I totally forgot it was Black Friday. Just wanted to support shops that actually carry equipment these days

cedar otter
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I just ordered more fellow stuff

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Like the scale and stuff

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And ode

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Maybe for the holidays

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Also met the director for mhw-3bomber and we might be distributing for them for the US market

crude citrus
glossy sail
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Guys - I need y'all help. Help formulating an explanation for the **** when I show up at the hotel room next week with a P80.

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lol

cedar otter
crude citrus
crude citrus
glossy sail
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Yea.... lol

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Imma show up Tuesday night with a P80....

cedar otter
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Photoshop their Black Friday ad with a lower price

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Tell her it was absurdly cheap and you can literally sell it back for more money after 1 year

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That’s why I always say

glossy sail
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Oh fuck. About to AI that Photoshop hahahaha

crude citrus
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And tell you got it pre tariff and pre shipping

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It wouldn’t even be a lie to tell her you’d be able to at least sell it for the same price after a year

mellow sonnet
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Norikaya is good 🫔 get the spicy tuna cigar

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the lighting terrible bc of that light under the counter

mellow sonnet
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i went here bc Lisa from BP went last time she was in LA

weary chasm
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Fellow with their periodic 20% off sales

weary chasm
weary chasm
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Very nice. Lol. Sigh

drowsy knot
drowsy knot
short condor
short condor
tight gorge
boreal solar
civic crest
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I just realized mustards bagel is right down from the street from me so I guess I’ll have to try it sometime

desert stirrup
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I have been hesitant because of the wait

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Anytime a place is weekend hours only I have this internal conflict between the multi facades that are Rewb

boreal solar
mellow sonnet
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I did a FAFO on my pourover today. Dumped 15g into 100ml at max flow rate and gave high agitation until the "bloom" went through full drawdown and then another 140ml for 15:240. My tbt was 2:45 not bad but the brew tastes mid

neon scaffold
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bit of orange is there for sure too

mellow sonnet
desert stirrup
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Finally found the pizza coffee in stock!

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Polite Coffee

Origin: Pitalito, Huila, Colombia Producer: Nestor Lasso Variety: Caturra Chiroso Process: Anaerobic Washed Tasting Notes: Basil, Oregano, Italian Sausage, Marinara Roast: Light We recommend letting this coffee rest for ~14 days after the roast date for proper flavor development. About the Farm: This coffee comes from

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This roaster has grown tremendously since I’ve last had them.

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I used to study and chill at their cafe before hitting up the farmers market in college

eternal birch
undone rover
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Obligatory Ondo - greetings from San Diego

compact hound
desert stirrup
desert stirrup
tight gorge
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They could have gotten better so who knows

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Ima go to dunsmore for my bday next month. That steak looks irresistible

tight gorge
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Dec 12

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My bday the next day doh

weary chasm
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reading it. def cardamom

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like those holiday wines

civic crest
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I’ll be at dunsmoor Tuesday night

weary chasm
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Is Dunsmoor a chefs choice? Or is it you just pick stuff from a menu.

I am ignorant

eternal birch
neon scaffold
mellow sonnet
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should i go dunsmoor for bday too then

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šŸ’€

neon scaffold
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Or maybe I just under extracted it and enjoyed that

cedar otter
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Ooh my bday in a couple of weeks

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Dunsmoor?

tight gorge
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šŸ’€

boreal solar
short condor
civic crest
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I’m only going because I get $150 off ehhhh

short condor
# eternal birch i am also headed to dunsmoor on my bday next year <:kek:1019396608447754272>

Hit and miss, had a second expierence at dunsmoor the other day thinking I just had a bad night and still got good but not great food. I didn’t get the steak this time but the people at the table next to me complained. I saw there steak and it was perfectly on one end and completely raw on the other like raw bar level shit. But I will say there vegetables were once again top tier. Cornbread is mid as hell and I’ll stand ten toes deep on that.

mellow sonnet
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I just got my onyx advent and I realized there's 24 coffees. So there's nothing on Christmas 🤔

short condor
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@tight gorge ever been to Donna’s?

tight gorge
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I forget I live so close to the cool spots now

boreal solar
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I was always scared off by the price and the fact I find a lot of onyx over developed for my taste

surreal pivot
compact hound
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Both said its too salty

short condor
short condor
short condor
cedar otter
weary chasm
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Paragon

short condor
# cedar otter

Even what’s the brewer stand it doesn’t look like paragon or is it?

weary chasm
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It's not paragon?

mellow sonnet
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Yeah idk what that is

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It's not paragon or mhw or timemore

dull adder
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I thought it was a Belka Portal for a second

mellow sonnet
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Ultranoki

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Never heard

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Wait they have a white one

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First non-black stand I've seen

boreal solar
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I don’t recognize it either I asked ChatGPT and it told me it was a v60 with a stand and a scale. It was super helpful.

mellow sonnet
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No it's not this

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It def has a square post

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As the defining feature

boreal solar
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It looks a lot like a modified paragon to me.

short condor
glossy sail
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'dirty' kinda legit lol

weary chasm
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Til hario usa is Alhambra

short condor
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Did I just drive out to fucking Glendora in the middle of the night for a brand new xbloom studio for $200..
Why yes. Yes I did.

short condor
crude citrus
eternal birch
cedar otter
cedar otter
crude citrus
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Wait a second. That’s also the address of Lamill roasterery

desert stirrup
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So EAF meet up at Dunsmoor?

glossy sail
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Why does this coffee shop open at 12pm... Wtf shop does that

short condor
glossy sail
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Nah. Macau.

short condor
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@cedar otter are you bringing back gritholders for the xbloom or still taking preorders?

#

The Facebook/offer up notification waiting game finally paid off

#

Now I just need @desert stirrup to cave and sell me his well seasoned pietro and I won’t need Christmas this year.

eternal birch
#

majority opened at 2pm when I was in outskirts of guangzhou

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because its designed so workers who get off work at like 6pm can go chill at coffee shop

cedar otter
cedar otter
short condor
#

If you have one left over when ya get back or have some at the shop I’ll buy it for sure. Don’t mind paying for it ahead of time eitheršŸ¤™

drowsy knot
#

first popup in over a year yesterday - 3.5 hours of a line. Didn’t have a moment to look up. Hundreds of drinks and reminded why I never want to open a coffee shop 🤣

boreal solar
tight gorge
#

Went to a festival with my bright blue hokas šŸ‘“

boreal solar
#

Just give up and get the cargo shorts with elastic waistband now.

earnest robin
neon scaffold
#

Altra escalante 4s are amazing walking shoes

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I’m in love

surreal pivot
desert stirrup
#

You’ll need to break into my home and yoink that green hoe if you want it

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And with that, I will never host a EAF meet up

#

I can’t let @short condor know where I live

boreal solar
short condor
#

@desert stirrup ahhh man you got lucky I thought I was it was black not green. Shucks zoom lenses are only so good at night. But I do gotta keep that all black esthetic going maybe I’ll get lucky and there will be some sales going on this weekend. There’s a beat up white one for250 for sale in the Bay Area but I always worry about shipping stuff via marketplace.

drowsy knot
# boreal solar Did you do it in silverlake?

No it was a private event that I do for one of my clients (it’s for charity). Though I think I will do something by the reservoir in December. Maybe for Stay Housed LA or another local group

drowsy knot
eternal birch
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undeniably

lunar fjord
#

jus?

mellow sonnet
#

had mama lu's for first time in a while

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i feel like it was better last time i had it, but that was a year ago

lunar fjord
#

do mama's lu and mama lu still exist

mellow sonnet
#

soup dumpling not enough soup

#

endorffiene putting in the work i guess

#

whens the LA location

weary chasm
#

Ohhh

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Is it opening?

eternal birch
crude citrus
tight gorge
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Too bad I don’t live nearby anymore

#

LA needs more locations like this. chefskiss

cedar otter
tight gorge
#

Wynd is aight, just didn’t want to get burned buying a nice spro for it to be coal

weary chasm
#

anyone on that paypal spending spree?

short condor
lunar fjord
#

jus still the best

#

a bit salty for my taste sometimes though

weary chasm
boreal solar
short condor
eternal birch
eternal birch
#

because I got fuckin big ass chunks of green onion

dull adder
tight gorge
#

Trance festival

dull adder
#

Was it good? I don't recognize like any of those names except the obvious ones

tight gorge
#

Meh, production was weak but mainly went to see Tiesto do a trance set which was dope

glossy sail
#

I'll be at Decent headquarters in a few days. Is there anything anyone wants me to ask or look at about the new Bengle? I'll definitely do some sound comparisons. And Im bringing hydrangea and moonwake beans to brew there.

weary chasm
#

Are they moving away from TCL for Bengle

boreal solar
#

How accurate is the built in scale and can it be used for weighing doses?

glossy sail
#

Yea they're going th Samsung tab a9 or something for Bengle. I'll test the scale out when I'm there

tight gorge
#

Ask when the new water pumps are coming out

glossy sail
#

Been asking them every year I'm there hahaha

crude citrus
tight gorge
mellow sonnet
#

3550 EG-1

boreal solar
#

They tossing a puqpress too

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It a trivial value

mellow sonnet
#

I assumed puqpress was extra but ya maybe

mellow sonnet
#

i just bought a bag so no monies or this would be tempting keknervous

mellow sonnet
#

nice leather bag from the row

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🤔

boreal solar
#

My mind went to coffee and I was confused how that would prohibit an eg1

mellow sonnet
#

bag of COE#1 panama gesha keknervous

boreal solar
#

Maybe someone will get you the eg1 for christmas(won’t be me. but you can dream)

compact hound
#

Row pick up after the orange bottega kinda crazy brah

mellow sonnet
#

It's not Margaux kekcry the one I wanted they didn't have my color

compact hound
#

Had a diff one in mind

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Marlo?

mellow sonnet
#

Marlo is nice ya

#

I think Marlo > Margaux but Margaux East-west model specifically is better than Marlo

#

The store only had a brown Margaux and I want the black one 🤧 I guess I wait

compact hound
#

Wait so what bag did you get LOL

mellow sonnet
#

I got a Marcel

compact hound
mellow sonnet
#

The other ones are too feminine I feel like

compact hound
#

True

mellow sonnet
#

Unless I got a tote bag but I already use and abuse an APC tote bag

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I wanted something w more structure but more functional than my orange lmao

cedar otter
#

Got my wife an apc tote bag from Korea

crude citrus
#

Bc you got yourself an Ozik?

mellow sonnet
#

Math checks out

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Ozik for a APC tote

#

Ozik for birkin I would honestly rather have a birkin keknervous

vivid violet
#

she got a tote bag for her Uninterruptable Power Supply ?

glossy sail
#

Dude I wish I could do that. Trader Joe's bag for her. P80 for me.

short condor
#

A solid tote bag is highly underrated our modref tote bags from a sample sale like 4 years ago are my go to for everyday carry. Long straps, deep tote interior, flat bottom with extra strong stitching. It’s a beast of a bag, nothing special design wise just quality workmanship.

#

Anybody see any Black Friday deals coffee and non coffee related worth looking into?

earnest robin
#

I carried so much heavy shit in TJ's tote bag

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And once it was way too heavy and one of the straps unstitched.

boreal solar
#

I ain’t waiting in line for a TJs bag. šŸ˜…

glossy sail
#

Goods secured.

boreal solar
mellow sonnet
tight gorge
#

claw & crane machines in Taiwan go crazy

mellow sonnet
#

I got a flat on the side wall kekcry

#

Freeway debris hit me

boreal solar
#

Sucks man. Hopefully it can be patched

neon scaffold
#

rip. probably need a new tire sidewall patches are pretty sketchy iirc

mellow sonnet
#

Yeah I have Tesla roadside giving me a new one but the next appointment was 12pm

#

I managed to drive to a parking lot so not bad just gotta wait

neon scaffold
#

nice tires btw love contis

mellow sonnet
#

Ya tire best case over hitting a body panel or hitting the underside

earnest robin
#

I had 2 sidewall punctures. They were not repairable

#

Random potholes in LA

mellow sonnet
#

Yeah side wall punctures are basically impossible to patch

earnest robin
mellow sonnet
#

It looked like a chunk of metal no idea

earnest robin
#

Do Teslas have spares?

mellow sonnet
#

I saw a few other cars on the side of the shoulder pulled over but my pressure wasn't dropping super fast

#

So I just went to the next exit

#

No spares so I'm waiting for Tesla roadside

earnest robin
#

Does it come with run flats?

mellow sonnet
#

Nope

#

I'm across the st from in n out tho

earnest robin
#

So you just towed it

mellow sonnet
#

Nope

#

Tesla roadside will just bring the tire

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And swap on the spot

dull adder
#

Basically all EVs ditch the spare tire. Maybe the trucks keep them but anything smaller uses that space for more batteries.
Also lots of ICE cars nowadays don't have them either

mellow sonnet
#

Also tire weight on an EV is a big cut on range

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Only an hour and half to go

#

Rip my Costco trip

#

Instead of 200$ at Costco it's 400 on a tire

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Only sad part is I finally brought the glasses that I wanted to get prescriptions in

#

I guess that can wait for next month

dull adder
# mellow sonnet Also tire weight on an EV is a big cut on range

I don't really think this matters meaningfully. Efficiency losses are much greater elsewhere, like drivetrain and regen losses at low speeds, and especially drag at high speeds.
This video does a really good job showing that, but tl;dw is even 1,500lbs extra hardly makes any difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmKf8smvGsA

mellow sonnet
#

True enough

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Do you guys think run flats are worth the cost

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I had them on my first car and it was nice but replacing them made me sad bc the cost

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But now I'm sitting in a parking lot for 3hr and contemplating if it's worth

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šŸ’€

dull adder
#

Instead of waiting for roadside assistance you'd be able to limp along to a tire shop? It doesn't feel like a big difference to me.
And in 12 years of driving I've had 1 flat tire. So to me it doesn't seem worth it

mellow sonnet
#

I had 4 flats all on the same tire in the span of 1 year keknervous

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This my first one in 2 years

#

I'm just unlucky

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My dad said AAA would've been like 500 for the tow and tire

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Tesla is 380 for them to come and replace. Usually it only an hour or 2 but I guess they busy today šŸ’€ earliest appointment 12

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Just in time for me to go back home to change to scrubs and head to work I guess šŸ˜‚

vivid violet
#

I'd make sure to buy the insurance on the new tire you get. can't get it after, and if you're driving through areas with construction, you may be more likely to get flats.

I got a replacement tire, and immediately had it go flat with an unpatchable tear (ceramic mug handle jabbed through), and had to pay full price for another tire kekcry

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(replacement insurance is coded to the specific tire)

mellow sonnet
#

🫔 good to go

civic crest
vivid violet
mellow sonnet
#

They took mine and will drive to my house on Friday and swap them back

civic crest
#

Sun nong dan Sawtelle was good last night. We got the oo guh ji galbi tang and tteok mandu guk. You order with someone outside and you wait while they prep your table. The space is large. At 5:30 we were seated within 10 mins. When we finished there were a ton of people outside waiting. We heard that they brought a bunch of the staff from Ktown and it all ran smoothly. It’s currently BYOB since they don’t have a liquor license yet. They are open 24 hours.

mellow sonnet
#

I'm assuming they just have me buy new one bc it's a sidewall damage tho

vivid violet
mellow sonnet
#

Ya not bad tbh I think Tesla puts good effort in customer service despite how hands off they are with the whole car delivery service lmao

eternal birch
#

I'm thinking of getting myself winter tires but I feel like bfg ko2 might be good enough?

crude citrus
mellow sonnet
#

sometimes i wish there was a 24hr shop between my commute home from work

#

chickfila closes at 11pm zzzz i wish they closed like 11:30 or osmething so i could order and eat on my way home

mellow sonnet
#

50% cash back if u buy something through perplexity

#

although idk how much i would ever trust an AI w purchasisng information

#

i keep my cards myself and physically type it in everytime or use bitwarden, or use paypal , dont even keep it saved in browser

eternal birch
#

50%???

earnest robin
eternal birch
#

perplexity buy me that new lambo

earnest robin
#

Perplexity seems to be trying to make deals with everyone

earnest robin
compact hound
civic crest
#

yeah but i want more korean restaurants on west side lol

compact hound
#

West side is pain for asian food

civic crest
#

south bay has some solid options

compact hound
#

Yeah some spots get the job done if youre desperate but would rather make the drive somewhere else to be fully satisfied

civic crest
#

you should try old time noodle @gusty pier told me about that one

#

my leftover soups from snd were solid today in the fridge you know it's the good stuff

tight gorge
#

@compact hound the salt butter donut from sidecars is mega

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I only got choco for like 3 years and now they don’t sell it anymore drunkkek

eternal birch
#

its good, very 80s90s korean taste

glossy sail
#

Oh man... She was kinda mad lol

desert stirrup
#

@crude citrus this is you

mellow sonnet
glossy sail
#

Told her I'd get her a "channel" bag in china hahhahaha

compact hound
#

Choco being archived is wild though

#

Choco twist > choco cake

glossy sail
#

Met the big boss lol

civic crest
cedar otter
#

Anybody interested in 50 grams of Esmeralda Nido Peaberry NC or Longboard Misty Mountain Honey?

#

The nido will come with a pink handmade sensory cup kek

compact hound
mellow sonnet
#

Misty mountain honey šŸ‘€

cedar otter
#

Nido is $200 for 50g keknervous

civic crest
mellow sonnet
#

6pm dinner gang

compact hound
#

7pm is cutoff for me

civic crest
#

Pickled mussels, corn bread, quail, grilled oysters, pork chop, dressed lettuces, sticky date pudding

mellow sonnet
#

I'm pushing 5 too when I'm not working

tight gorge
civic crest
civic crest
#

Just so far from me, we can get similar fare at hatchet hall. I think the chef was from there originally

#

Corn bread was almost exactly the same

compact hound
#

If you compare it to most restaurants these days the price is not crazy

#

Think the other guy here is just hatin tbh

mellow sonnet
#

U guys make me want to upgrade to CSR

mellow sonnet
#

I'm already pre-approved just lazy

compact hound
#

Dining out is expensive period

#

No idea how restaurants stay alive here

neon scaffold
#

anyone have any recs for dongze's drop tomorrow? (mayb he's roasted similar things in the past that were good etc) never tried his coffee before gonna try to grab something

compact hound
#

Its all expensive stuff

#

Probs wont go wrong with whatever you pick

mellow sonnet
#

My coworker that said he was too impatient for a aeropress said he wants to do pourovers now bc he went to Japan and went to leaves 🤔

neon scaffold
mellow sonnet
#

Damn I think my cost/g is fucked

#

I think anything under .5/g is cheap

neon scaffold
#

nah im just newer to coffee

#

the cost creep is still working it's way into my life

mellow sonnet
#

I think the main thing is even if u find your "favorite" varietal things will change yearly depending on the harvest

#

Endless loop of trying "new" stuff bc everything tastes slightly diff every year

neon scaffold
#

makes sense. ive just been exploring/experimenting as much as i can

#

been so fun

mellow sonnet
#

I just pick tasting notes I find interesting or know I will enjoy now

#

I think that's the best method of buying stuff

#

Find interesting notes or notes you previously enjoyed and disregard the variety and process and origin

#

Just keep notes and see what's common after a while

neon scaffold
#

word ill take that to heart. i always make a beanconquerer entry when i have a cup i love, it's sitll pretty small

#

im sure a pattern will emerge

compact hound
#

Underdeveloped drum roasts expresserer

mellow sonnet
#

BQ enjoyer 🫔 hit 1000 earlier this year

neon scaffold
#

that's sick

mellow sonnet
#

I'm trying to figure out the best method of logging my advent calendar tho

#

I'm debating being lazy and listing it all as 1 bag 🤔 and just use the notes section to denote which day

#

But I'll prob hate myself for it in a year

neon scaffold
#

u log them all or just the cups u enjoy?

mellow sonnet
#

I log everything

cedar otter
compact hound
#

I failed at logging this yr

#

Need to do it next yr

cedar otter
#

This pink is so goddamn hard to photograph

mellow sonnet
#

All my notes are very objective information though. Sometimes I will note I really liked a brew in the comments but usually nothing logged in terms of subjective things

mellow sonnet
#

I used to log brew times and I gave up. Just bean, brew method, grind size, grinder, recipe, output

neon scaffold
#

i took this workshop on sunday btw it was fun

neon scaffold
mellow sonnet
#

Yeah def log what u feel like logging and skip if u don't want to or it gets tedious

#

Sometimes I just log bean and dose and then move on

neon scaffold
#

i log my brew times still since i only log cups i love but if i ever get more consistent ill probly switch

mellow sonnet
#

I want to start logging which apax drops I use but I don't think I'll enjoy it

neon scaffold
#

i also have very little recipe variety

neon scaffold
mellow sonnet
#

All of my logging is just numpad and tapping from drop downs which is how i chose what I log

#

Apax would mean typing on the keeb

surreal pivot
neon scaffold
glossy sail
#

I have mic recording of Bengle vs DE1XL pulling shot/flush sound

mellow sonnet
#

So new pump bengle or met which one will be all caught up on orders first keknervous

short condor
short condor
short condor
short condor
tight gorge
#

This one was from Pasadena but I think I’ve had misses there

cedar otter
short condor
cedar otter
#

Never delivered the pre ordered new models

short condor
surreal pivot
earnest robin
#

Any lunch places recommendations similar to Republique

civic crest
#

gjelina is sit down, but gjusta you order at the counter and find a seat

earnest robin
#

I have been to gjusta but it was ok ish. I like their bread

#

Maybe revisit hatchet hall

civic crest
#

i haven't been for brunch but had been meaning to go

earnest robin
#

They are closed for brunch today

civic crest
#

yeah it's a weekend thing

earnest robin
#

I only had brunch there

civic crest
#

SQIRL used to be good but ever since moldgate i stopped going lol

#

i've only been to hatchet for dinner

earnest robin
#

What's moldgate

neon scaffold
#

they had mold on their jam

#

got caught

civic crest
earnest robin
#

I'll try gjelina

civic crest
#

oh i forgot about lunnetta too that used to be ok

#

we just don't do brunch anymore with the kids lol

earnest robin
earnest robin
civic crest
#

check the menu, they use same bread/dough but different items

#

same vibe

mellow sonnet
#

hmmmm subscale is 20% off

#

for BF

#

kinda tempting ngl

#

do i need more scales tho

#

not really

civic crest
#

saw that one at the meetup was cool

#

but yeah i don't need one

cedar otter
#

Shop small this Friday

earnest robin
#

I wish I got moldy jam

civic crest
#

what did you order

earnest robin
earnest robin
#

I was not that hungry

#

And my wife got bahn mi with steak. It was not a banh mi lmao

#

Just a streak sandwich

civic crest
#

lol you can't go to american restaurant and expect traditional banh mi

earnest robin
#

Anyway, I might be bad at ordering

civic crest
#

they really shine with vegetables there

earnest robin
#

Something has changed in me. I used to like Abbott Kinney, now I feel it's too hip for me

civic crest
#

it's called old age ehhhh

#

sidewalks too small can't walk i hate it

desert stirrup
#

I greatly appreciate John’s business practices

#

Also

#

That window view is wild

#

So many tall buildings next to each other

crude citrus
#

@desert stirrup is the president. He dictates what we can and can’t say here

desert stirrup
desert stirrup
# neon scaffold i took this workshop on sunday btw it was fun

I’m thinking of doing one of their workshops soon because I’m struggling with getting my stacks to be in the center of the cup. Also my lines aren’t as defined as I’d like for the Rosetta.

My issue is how they only do the level 1 class now so no matter how skilled you are you have to sit through 30-45 mins of basic ass espresso prep

neon scaffold
desert stirrup
#

Honestly, if I was ruler of a country nobody in that country would be forced to drive, parks would be less than a 15 min walk away, everyone no matter the city or neighborhood gets super high quality free education, free healthcare, higher education is subsidized, and a whole slew of other cool human first ideas

#

Sure I’m a dictator

#

But no more car wrecks and parks are just around the corner šŸ™‚

#

Also drugs are fully legal, state regulated, and taxed 10-15%

#

Take that Cartel

#

How can you compete with state subsidized clean coke?Āæ

#

You can’t, I win

#

@surreal pivot and @mellow sonnet have you tried logging via pen and paper and how was it compared to BQ? I’m using pen and paper for PO but visualizer for spro cuz of the decent.

I don’t really log too much given I use the same water recipe and PO technique. I mainly log what coffees I like and don’t like with details. Did either of you guys start with paper then go to BQ?

mellow sonnet
#

Used paper for a week and quit

earnest robin
desert stirrup
#

I use a bidet

#

Shit fucking slaps

mellow sonnet
#

I used mine for a week and it burned

desert stirrup
desert stirrup
mellow sonnet
#

Recipes and brewers yes

#

Grind size depends on bean

earnest robin
glossy sail
#

HK's equivalent of the Palisades/Eaton fire.

mellow sonnet
#

I saw vids on xhs looks nasty

#

Esp in a densely populated area

glossy sail
#

Light roaster! In HK! With eg-1 ULFs!

desert stirrup
#

I love super densely packed places like that

glossy sail
#

If anyone is interested in their beans, I'll take orders for post Xmas. I'll also msg about beans from Chinese roasters

desert stirrup
#

So much to look at and uncover

surreal pivot
#

Started with a moleskin and then found out about BQ

#

I like that BQ gives me stats. Pen and paper cuz I’m Unc and I find it easier to track adjustments brew to brew there.

trail tiger
#

this chat just the unction

short condor
#

@cedar otter how’d the ondokaze go?

cedar otter
#

Just left the shop preparing for it

short condor
#

Oh I thought it was for today, welp hope to see good some pics of the drinks and set up

cedar otter
#

I hope someone takes some dope pix

#

I’ll be too busy talking and making drinks haha

neon scaffold
neon scaffold
mellow sonnet
#

new lance vid. this honestly is a nice pairing visually side by side

earnest robin
weary chasm
#

T E X T U R E

mellow sonnet
#

isnt it millenial brown

mellow sonnet
#

Trying erewhon for the first time kekcry my friend convinced me today

tight gorge
#

This is what peak performance looks like

mellow sonnet
#

Happy thanksgiving everyone

#

Thankful for all the coffee degens in here

compact hound
#

Hope everyone has a good thanksgiving!

mellow sonnet
#

I'm going to work for Thanksgiving 🤔

cedar otter
fallen gulch
#

uuunf that sounds amazing

desert stirrup
mellow sonnet
#

In LA kekcry

tight gorge
#

International locations are excluded from asl rules

earnest robin
glossy sail
#

Happy thx giving!

#

No turkey but dinner was legit lol

compact hound
glossy sail
tight gorge
#

Kicking off the right with bootleg wine

compact hound
#

Chicken pho by mom

weary chasm
#

What about them $150 erewhon tote bags. Lol

weary chasm
#

Anyhow. Happy Thanksgiving!

#

I ate a little bit of turkey today. But mainly meat

glossy sail
boreal solar
mellow sonnet
#

Yeah

#

I actually think the price reasonable compared to jamba juice tbh

#

Just based on the ingredients list I think their margin in terms of cost/price is prob very similar

#

If ur looking at $/volume obv it's not worth but I think it could be worse

boreal solar
#

I didn’t realize they started at $9 on the low end. Honestly these days that’s pretty standard for anything that isn’t just ice blended with a jar of syrup.

desert stirrup
#

Would anybody want to split an order of Decent’t sticky and tipsy cups?

#

I only want 2 of each but they sell them in a minimum of 6

mellow sonnet
#

Tipsy cups are awkward to use imo

#

The tendency to put the cup down with the lip parallel to the table is hard to give up

#

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I forgot who was asking about the stand

#

Acaia keystone precision brew stand

dull adder
#

I cooked my first Thanksgiving turkey today, turned out a success

#

Happy Thanksgiving yall. Glad to have a nice community of coffee nerds

desert stirrup
#

Hopefully it was tasty šŸ™‚

#

I think turkey is an underrated poultry and I wish it was easily accessible as a whole bird all year long

dull adder
# desert stirrup Hopefully it was tasty šŸ™‚

It was quite good! The right amount, maybe a touch light on smoke. The skin was perfect and crunchy. I'm nitpicky with my cooking so the thighs could have used a little more temp and the outer layer of the breast was a little dry.

I agree that turkey can be underrated. Lots of forums online, I got the feeling people were incapable of cooking it. It is difficult if you want ~175+ dark meat and 155 white meat.

desert stirrup
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Correct, I have a kamado BBQ/smoker

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Damn that’s sick

desert stirrup
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I’m sure you can do a mix of smoking and sous vide

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I need to move so I can have some outdoor space to grill and smoke

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That sounds sick af

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yee sous vide chx breast is wild if you never had it before

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I used to make chicken salad w/ them

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and people would go "is this tofu??"

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bc it;s so soft

dull adder
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With my thermometer and clever use of an oven, I can kinda do similar to a sous vide. The biggest change for me has been cooking poultry to a lower temp

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146 core temp on the turkey breast and it was food safe

cedar otter
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yerr

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I wish more health inspectors were more knowledgeable about this

earnest robin
# dull adder

With combustion I learnt that my oven temp is way off of what I had

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There's a brand that makes ripoffs for much cheaper and I have read it's pretty good

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Hey all, I’m visiting LA, what are the best shops to get a pour over at here?

I’ve been to Ondo so far and wanted to check out Endorffeine and maybe one of the quats

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kumquat DTLA, Ondo Artesia, Mandarin East Pasadena

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kumquat HLP is meh, Loquat is watery and way too high ratio, Mandarin 1 has been hit or miss recently

vivid violet
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Plus it also has a native integration with my electric range

crude citrus
dull adder
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The predictions are done on a CPU inside the thermometer, which models the physics of temperature moving through the food. Which is really cool and requires zero input, but also is the weakest part of the product imo. Just an fyi

earnest robin
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The first gen has many issues. I got the first gen

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You could use only for up to 350F,the internal temperature is limited to 100C/212F, the battery kept draining itself and I had to replace my unit once because it wouldn't hold battery more than 10 minutes

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The prediction are hit or miss

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It's probably thermometer was designed to be used with thick cut of meats

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Thankfully I've had no issues on my first gen. My BIL had some though. It seems gen 2 is a better build and more waterproof.

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And you can get the clone for $100 for 2 pack from Costco

dull adder
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Oh, it's $80 now

dull adder
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Like that one you linked kinda has it, but looks like it has to be submerged in the food. It's important to me to also know the surface temperature

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It measures ambient too

cedar otter
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I get that combination is better but it's also 3x of the price. If you are ok with that then go for it. But you can get 80% for 1/3 less price

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You can do it, but to do it properly you need to consult a professional

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Used to cost like 15-20k

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I used chatGPT before to give me a workable one and surprisingly it was solid haha

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I had low temp pork katsu in korea and it was amazeballs

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I don’t trust USA’s meat handling to have this here

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Pink pork always makes me nervous even though I know it's safe

dull adder
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Basically it’s always temp x time

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So lower temp can be safe as long as you cook it long enough

dull adder
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It was so tender

tight gorge
dull adder
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His content has changed the way I think about cooking

tight gorge
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Thou shall not rest your cooked steak

cedar otter
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lmao

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been following his footsteps (chefsteps, joule, etc)

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haven't bought the combustion stuff bc I rarely cook at home now

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but one day...

cedar otter
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My black friday shopping is done lol

desert stirrup
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z1 brewer keknervous

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Dude