Application Memory | The Apple Den | Page 1

vivid ocean Mar 16, 2024, 3:01 PM

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I kept getting popups on my MacBook saying "Your system has run out of application memory" which led me to take a look into my storage, when I noticed that "Data" is taking up 183GB. Any way I can clear some of this up?

thin glacier Mar 16, 2024, 5:07 PM

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Application memory is referring to RAM

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You can check Activity Monitor to see how much RAM your apps and system are using

thin glacier Mar 16, 2024, 8:39 PM

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@vivid ocean

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:00 PM

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alright ill check it out thanks

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:00 PM

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Yep

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:00 PM

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vivid ocean I kept getting popups on my MacBook saying "Your system has run out of applicati...

does this have to take up 183GB though? it seems like a lot

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:01 PM

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So system data varies a lot. It’s not something you can easily clear.

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If you go to system settings, then click general then click storage. You can see how much system data is using.

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:03 PM

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thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:03 PM

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System data is the grey area

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:03 PM

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system data is taking up only about 12gb

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:03 PM

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Oh ok, that’s normal

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:04 PM

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what kind of things are in "documents"?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:04 PM

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Documents can be files that you have in the Finder

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:04 PM

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just things i download?

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ah

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:04 PM

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So if you download a lot of files and things like that, that number is going to be big

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So if you wanna clear some of your files out, you can look through the Finder

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As for your RAM, how much do you have?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:05 PM

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where can I see that?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:06 PM

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Go to the Apple in the top left-hand corner then click about this Mac

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Your RAM should be listed there

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:06 PM

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thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:08 PM

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Oh so you got 8GB of RAM

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If you’re seeing that your system is running out of application memory means that you’re exceeding the 8GB of ram that you have

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:08 PM

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i see

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so having too many applications open can end up with me exceeding my ram

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:11 PM

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Yeah, it's not just the amount of apps. Some apps may use more memory than others.

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For instance Photoshop on my Mac sometimes use 3GB while Safari may use 700MB. The amount of memory will not be the same and it will vary as your using the app. As it depends what your doing on it

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:12 PM

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ah alright

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:14 PM

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Usually it's recommended to get 16GB of RAM if your going to be using a lot of heavy apps.

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or just a lot of apps at once

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:14 PM

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are you able to add on ram?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:14 PM

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Nope

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:14 PM

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ah

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:15 PM

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Due to everything being all on one chip, that isn't possible

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The M2 chip has it's RAM (Unified Memory), CPU, GPU, and it's Neural Engine all on one chip

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:16 PM

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ah so it isnt physical ram which you can take out or add in

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:16 PM

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Nope

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:16 PM

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i see

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:17 PM

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Apple calls it unified memory. The benefit of it being on one chip is that it's faster

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But there isn't upgradeability

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:17 PM

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thin glacier Apple calls it unified memory. The benefit of it being on one chip is that it's ...

yeah that makes sense

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how tough is it to get by as a student with 8gb ram? do you think ill be facing this problem quite frequently?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:19 PM

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It depends on each person's use case. What apps do you tend to use?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:19 PM

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i always have chrome, safari, spotify, and discord open

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i ocassionaly use final cut for schoolwork

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but thats usually about it

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:20 PM

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Ah I see. When do you usually see the "Your System Is Out Of Application Memory" warning?

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Does it happen when using Final Cut Pro?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:20 PM

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no, it hasnt happened with fcp yet

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:20 PM

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Interesting

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:20 PM

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im not sure when exactly it happens, i just have a lot of applications open at once and i get the popup

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:20 PM

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I see

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:21 PM

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and sometimes it stays even after closing my applications, which is why i kinda wanted to look into it

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:21 PM

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Hmm, what macOS version are you running?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:21 PM

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where can i see that?

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i restarted my mac yesterday so i think its the most current one

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:22 PM

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vivid ocean i restarted my mac yesterday so i think its the most current one

Restarting doesn't update your Mac

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:22 PM

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vivid ocean where can i see that?

Go to system settings, then general, then software update

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:23 PM

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i think this wasnt up to date when i first opened this thread

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when i was getting the popups

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:23 PM

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I see, the newest version is macOS 14.4

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:24 PM

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oh

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:24 PM

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vivid ocean

Is this what you saw today?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:24 PM

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right now

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oh never mind

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i just got a new notification

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:24 PM

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For the update?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:24 PM

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thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:24 PM

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Perfect

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Try updating to see if that helps

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:24 PM

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alright

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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Sometimes memory leaks are issues in older OS versions

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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ah i see

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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This will help narrow down the issue

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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so the software being outdated could cause this problem

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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vivid ocean ah i see

I've had a memory leak one time on a older version of Monterey

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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vivid ocean so the software being outdated could cause this problem

Possibly, but not for sure

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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okok

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ill quickly update this right now then

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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If it the issue continues, it could just be you don't have enough RAM for your use case

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:25 PM

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vivid ocean ill quickly update this right now then

Great

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Updating apps is also good to do

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:26 PM

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thin glacier If it the issue continues, it could just be you don't have enough RAM for your u...

im guessing in that case ill just have to get a new mac?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:26 PM

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thin glacier Updating apps is also good to do

ah alright ill check that out too

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:26 PM

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vivid ocean im guessing in that case ill just have to get a new mac?

Yeah.

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:26 PM

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alright

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:26 PM

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But you'll have to definitely upgrade the RAM

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to at least 16GB

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That's what I have and it runs great

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:27 PM

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are you able to turn in an old mac and pay less for a new one like the iPhones?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:27 PM

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Yes!

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:28 PM

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oh nice nice

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:28 PM

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vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:28 PM

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i might do that if this continues then

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:28 PM

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Alrighty

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Might as well pay less if you can 😁

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Your using a M2 MacBook Air right?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:30 PM

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yep

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:30 PM

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Apple's webpage shows you can get as much as 550, but to find your exact trade in value you'll go through their prompts on their webpage

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vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:31 PM

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this is what i got

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:31 PM

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Ohh that's solid

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That's when you put in your serial number and listed the condition?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:31 PM

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yep

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:31 PM

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Dang

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That's solid

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:31 PM

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yeah i just got this

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probably about 6 months ago

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:31 PM

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I see

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So it's fairley new.

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:32 PM

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mhm

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:32 PM

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Which Mac would you get if you were to get a new one?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:33 PM

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im honestly not really sure

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:33 PM

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Ah ok

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:33 PM

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i was told an air was enough for school

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so i might just get an air again and upgrade the ram?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:33 PM

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Yeah, you could do that

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:33 PM

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i cant trade it in for an m3 right?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:33 PM

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It's not that the Air isn't powerful enough, it's just you don't have enough RAM

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:34 PM

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vivid ocean i cant trade it in for an m3 right?

You should be able to

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:34 PM

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oh really?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:34 PM

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Yeah

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:34 PM

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oh wait nevermind its there yep

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:34 PM

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There is a 15 inch and 13 inch size

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:35 PM

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i have the 13 inch right now

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so i think ill stick to the 13

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:35 PM

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Ok, sounds good

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Do you think you need more storage?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:35 PM

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possibly, yeah

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:35 PM

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I see that your using a lot of the 256GB storage

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:35 PM

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vivid ocean possibly, yeah

Ok 👍🏼

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:36 PM

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im not really sure whats taking up so much storage though

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is there a way to filter the things on my computer based on how large it is?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:36 PM

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Yes

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:36 PM

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ah its my final cut pro library

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63 gb

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:36 PM

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Makes sense

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I've sued the Final Cut Pro Trial

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It can use a lot of storage

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:37 PM

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yeah it does seem to use a lot

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:37 PM

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I clear render files after a project

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:37 PM

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yeah i should probably do that too

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:37 PM

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It helps

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I've had final cut use an extra 200GB

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🫠

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:40 PM

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oh wait i see

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these things are taking up all my storage

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i thought it was my own videos that were taking up the storage

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:41 PM

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How did you figure out it was these?

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Those are preinstalled

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:42 PM

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i kinda assumed it was since it took me to these presets when i clicked on this

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ive deleted all of my videos but its still at 63gb

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:43 PM

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Alright, I'm gonna tell you how to delete render files

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Click File, then click on Generated Library files

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There should be a checkbox for Render files

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:44 PM

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thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:44 PM

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vivid ocean

Select an event

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First

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then click file, then generate library files

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:45 PM

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thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:45 PM

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vivid ocean

Alrighty, no click delete render files, then all

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:45 PM

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okok

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:45 PM

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Then check your storage again

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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oh woah hmm

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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It helped?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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a single event took out 40gb

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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Yay!

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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I do this all of the time

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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vivid ocean

Woah!

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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yeah this is really nice i didnt know i could do this

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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I learned this from a video

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Helped me so much

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:46 PM

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but doing this removes the videos completely right?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:47 PM

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This removes render files, not videos. But those files take a lot as you can see

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:47 PM

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so if i were editing a video and decided to do what i just did

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would that video that i was editing still be there?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:48 PM

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Yep, your Mac will just have to rerender it when you open the project again

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I usually do this after I'm done with a video

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:48 PM

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but when it rerenders, it takes up the storage again

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:48 PM

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Yes

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:48 PM

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thin glacier I usually do this after I'm done with a video

ah alright

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okok

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so i should just do this once im done with a project and i should be good to go

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:48 PM

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Yeah

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I'd do it once your all done

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:49 PM

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okay nice

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:49 PM

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Then your workflow won't be slowed down by it rerendering

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Any other questions?

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:50 PM

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no, i dont think so

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thanks a lot

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:50 PM

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No problem! Glad I was able to help

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You can mark the post as resolved. If you ever need help with purchasing a Mac (if you need to), you can make a post in #1053488658424008784

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:51 PM

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alright! thanks a lot

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actually do you know anything about iphones as well?

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:51 PM

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vivid ocean actually do you know anything about iphones as well?

Yes

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:51 PM

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vivid ocean alright! thanks a lot

Yep!

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:52 PM

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actually it probably belongs in in #1053488658424008784
i was going to ask which iphone i should get since i have an android right now but want to switch over

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:52 PM

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Ah gotcha, yep. I'd make a post in there

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:52 PM

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alright

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thanks for the help!

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:52 PM

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Your welcome! 😁

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Remember to tag this as resolved

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 5:53 PM

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yep!

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 5:53 PM

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Great

vivid ocean Mar 17, 2024, 6:38 PM

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Just got this again while updating my software

thin glacier Mar 17, 2024, 6:55 PM

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vivid ocean Just got this again while updating my software

That’s ironic

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Then apps memory usage doesn’t even seem extreme.

vivid ocean Mar 18, 2024, 8:44 AM

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Yeah

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what do you think could be a possible reason why this is happening?

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Application Memory

thin glacier Mar 18, 2024, 11:17 AM

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vivid ocean what do you think could be a possible reason why this is happening?

System is running out of RAM somewhere along the lines

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Did your Mac update yet?

vivid ocean Mar 18, 2024, 12:46 PM

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yeah it has updated already

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i mean i did get that while it was still on the old version so

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it could have just been that

thin glacier Mar 18, 2024, 1:23 PM

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Alrighty, let’s see how it goes on macOS 14.4. Let me know if it happens again

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