An interesting concept plus honest feedback

[hot mason]

Going to start with feedback, feel free to disagree.

As someone past advanced divinities, the times where I've had fun with this game has to be at early game, discovering rage mode, the armoury and the village. Essentially at any moment where I saw there was more content to explore, it hyped me up enough to continue grinding my way through to the end. A problem which I face with this game however is that the further I progress through this game, there's less to unlock and the gameplay starts to become repetitive. If there was more upgrades as small milestones towards the larger milestones, I think I would have more to look forward to (whilst keeping the game balanced of course)

Before I move on to the interesting concept I've thought about, let me share some ideas I've thought about in the past:

• Bonus Stage 4 (Posted this before months ago but it's nice to bring this idea back)

• 2 new dimensions, one for the sake of higher soul gain (to give the player a sense of progression) as a step up from Funky Space, another dimension just to add variety and new enemies so there's more dimensions to unlock after Ultra Ascending other than just the desert and Funky Space

• More village content. I know Mt Otto is having more content (seeing it turn into a second village is pretty cool), but the village part is easily one of my favourite parts of the game and I would love to see more

(Message had to be split into two as it was too long, read further to see the concept)

(2nd part of the message)

Now for the concept I thought up about:

Rage mode is one of my favourite mechanics in the game, I love seeing it become more effective as I'm progressing towards being fully caught up with this games updates. I was thinking that it would be an awesome idea to make an upgrade that makes rage mode and it's effects permanent.

Hear me out, it doesn't mean you are stuck forever in the rage mode animation, that would honestly be quite annoying. What I'm suggesting is that the rage mode stat boosts becomes permanent (at some point after you start investing into the Stone of Rage) and you're able to play normally with rage mode benefits, and the purple aura you get from dashing is now replaced with the red aura from rage mode.

Which leads into the question, what will become of the rage mode button? Well, it will leave, but not permanently. You would later (after spending time with the rage mode stats being permanent) have access to a much stronger rage mode, let's call it berserk state, acting as what rage mode was before. The player would basically achieve rage mode, gradually master it until the effects are permanent and then achieve Berserk State

It's also worth considering that these upgrades would give massive soul gain I'm aware, but that can be fixed with more expensive upgrades to look forward to, e.g there's a batch of expensive ascension/ultra ascension upgrades, to progress you need to make the rage mode permanent, and then same goes for Beserk State.

I'm interested to read thoughts about this

[unreal sierra]

So basically infinite Rage mode?

Also what would the beserk state do?

Cause i read all of this yet I still don't understand

[hot mason]

Same purpose as rage mode, just stronger

[hot mason]

And yes

[unreal sierra]

So the same effect as stone of rage gives?

[hot mason]

No, I think Stone of Rage should only be useful for rage mode. I think there should be separate upgrades for Berserk state itself

[unreal sierra]

So basically

Make Rage mode infinite,

[crystal hamlet]

perhaps a small passive, like 10% of Rage's effects?

[unreal sierra]

And then add it back

[lusty shuttle]

maybe a % of rage mode gets converted would be better

[unreal sierra]

So it still exists as a skill

[lusty shuttle]

like passive rage vs active rage

[unreal sierra]

And then make separate upgrades to it

So add what's in the game already

[crystal hamlet]

I think we can pretty much all agree with "more village content" though
animation just takes a long time, after all

[lusty shuttle]

nah, it would just upgrade rage and the passive scales off the main thing

[unreal sierra]

Because the previous one was transformed into a normal gameplay

[hot mason]

I love that idea

[unreal sierra]

Yeah basically that

[viscid lance]

What would be the purpose of Bonus Stage 4? cooler background? new goblin evo or even king goblin evo?
with badge boost armory is pretty much a given with bs3 already, i don't think its necessary to raise armory chance

[unreal sierra]

But then how much nerfed would the passive Rage mode be?

[lusty shuttle]

new dimensions would be cool but honestly i feel like some existing dimensions are already being wasted/forgotten

[lusty shuttle]

8 sections would be the only one that would interest most endgame ppl i think

without making it crazy in terms of rewards

[unreal sierra]

I have some ideas for bs4 tbh

But I'll make a separate feedback post about it

Some day

[hot mason]

I'm going to try make a way to visualise my idea in case I was being confusing with how I worded it

[unreal sierra]

I imagine it as a Rage mode that just never ends

But again, how big would the nerfs had to be

[viscid lance]

berserk would be cool but that would be a reallly MASSIVE update, with new evo, upgrades, divinities etc in order not to break the game

[unreal sierra]

And will the Rage mode+ just upgrade the already existing rage animation or active a separate one (?)

[hot mason]

That's exactly what I was thinking

[hot mason]

Separate animation definitely

[unreal sierra]

Maybe something like a dash but in the middle of the screen that last a few seconds?

Imagine dashing but very fast

And you're in the middle of the screen

That's the only thing that came to my mind

[viscid lance]

gonna take a day off from work to do bonus stage 4

[hot mason]

I'll try find my original bonus stage 4 post

Found it

[unreal sierra]

Yeah but there were literally 0 ideas for it

This was just "add more content"

[hot mason]

Yeah I admit that there wasn't much ideas for it, it's why I made this post in much greater detail

[tranquil dock]

how about rage mode related quests?

especially the "do rage mode x times"

i think a more balanced choice is to make the slayer shoot arrow while rage mode

[hot mason]

Put this together in a rush

But I hope this makes more sense

And obviously the rage mode is permanent as stated before from an upgrade

[hot mason]

Down for that too, any new content is welcome

[tranquil dock]

i mean how would your concept handle rage mode kill and rage mode amount quest

[hot mason]

Funny enough the main idea came from recently going through Dragon Ball And DBZ, how you keep powering up and reaching new forms stronger than the last

[hot mason]

I would imagine that there would be an update to those quests

So instead of having rage mode kill quests there would be instead a berserk mode kill quest upon unlocking it

Or alternatively there would be separately berserk mode quests and rage mode quests

Meaning any rage mode quests would be easier to clear once you get the upgrade to make it permanent

[mellow kayak]

yeah so
always having x200 souls and coins is kinda very very op

[hot mason]

I considered that, so I figured that to balance that there would be considerably more expensive ascension/ultra/astral upgrades

[unreal sierra]

That's what we talked about earlier

[hot mason]

So the game wouldnt become easy

[unreal sierra]

Wait si

So

When would the perm Rage mode be unlocked

Like which game stage

Or which SP amount

Or how

[mellow kayak]

takes kind of the point away of rage being allpowerful and rrrarawwrr you get x200 everything and kill everything to me

with beserk mode now also only offering a x2 coins which is like
pretty bad

[unreal sierra]

Terrible for this game

Would have to be X10 at least to be a bit good

[tranquil dock]

i think just lowering rage mode cooldown is already good enough

[hot mason]

This would probably be an upgrade once you hit the quintillions for Slayer Points

Having it in quadrillions is too soon after stone of rage

[unreal sierra]

And rage+?

Sx?

[viscid lance]

Good luck balancing that

[unreal sierra]

I mean

[viscid lance]

There would be a completely new ascension tree section with sx+ souls

[unreal sierra]

You would have to nerf rage at this point

In order to make it permanent

So ppl wouldn't do it

[viscid lance]

Cause After clearance why would one even want berserk mode

[unreal sierra]

For more USP or crazy coin amounts ig

[viscid lance]

As I see It berserk mode itself Is not worth it an update centered on it

[unreal sierra]

And nothing more

[viscid lance]

It would be an asset to an already MASSIVE update

[hot mason]

Sp at the very minimum, permanent rage mode would be pretty over powered so it would take some time for both the player to get used to it and for the overpowered effect to subside

[unreal sierra]

Does anyone even have Sp?

Or had

It's 1000Sx

[viscid lance]

With berserk I Guess It wouldn't be that hard

Also if rage+ works offline

[hot mason]

I doubt it but we are talking proper future here

[unreal sierra]

He said it would be unlocked in Sp not help getting Sp

[hot mason]

I also see the flaws with my idea I'm trying to think up a way to make it work

[viscid lance]

Rip

Yeah I read it

[unreal sierra]

I've only seen ppl with 1 or 2 digit Sx amount at max.

Not even 3 digit yet you would have to get 4

Noone got amount that big since the beginning of the game

[viscid lance]

Would make more sense to unlock permanent rage mode working offline to get to 100s sx souls, then berserk mode

[unreal sierra]

Like 4y

[hot mason]

The way how I think of it, with permanent rage mode, people would progress through sx easier

[unreal sierra]

Sx is still crazy big

[viscid lance]

But also

Why would they progress?

[unreal sierra]

And there aren't any upgrades for it

now

~~cuz there were ~~

[hot mason]

And maybe with smaller updates along the way the road to berserk mode to make there more milestones to reach other than a new mode

[unreal sierra]

You get what I'm trying to say?

There's just no point of adding it if it would only help getting more usp

That's why there would have to be another update for more content first

[viscid lance]

Hence why it would only be a "tiny" part of a massive update

[unreal sierra]

So it would make sense to add new methods of getting Sp so it's possible to get those thing s

[hot mason]

I know what you're saying there's really a lot to consider

[unreal sierra]

Yeah that's true

[hot mason]

The idea sounded so cool in my head 😭

[viscid lance]

Like, berserk mode would work as a balance thing to things already in there

[viscid lance]

Balancing games is awful i know

[unreal sierra]

We aren't saying it's a bad idea, we're just discussing how it could be implemented and what would have to be changed first to make it possible to add it yk

[viscid lance]

New sx ascension tree upgrade making every armory excellent

[hot mason]

I'm gonna stay and discuss dw I think we would have to make changes to some of my original ideas if it were to work

[unreal sierra]

HECK NO

[hot mason]

But I can see there would have to be a massive update

[unreal sierra]

Or yes

[viscid lance]

Adding a great portion to the game too

Like offline ff would become late game at best

[unreal sierra]

😭

[hot mason]

Making me think about a legendary class for the armoury

[unreal sierra]

HECK NO

Or should I say,

[viscid lance]

+20 armory items owners in shambles

[unreal sierra]

What would it do

?

[hot mason]

Ahahahaha

[hot mason]

No idea I had literally just thought it up

[unreal sierra]

Just don't make them work as excellent ones

It would ruin literally everyones' armorys

[unreal sierra]

This

[viscid lance]

Also realistically what would come after sx? Maybe a new boss to grind, a new dimension for sx souls?

[unreal sierra]

FF part 2

It would have to have multi-type enemies

[hot mason]

I thought about having more village content plus a new bonus stage, usual stuff but there would have to be a new minion plus some other small buffs

[unreal sierra]

So generally transforming endgame into midgame no?

Or late game

[viscid lance]

More DPs YEAH

[hot mason]

That's the plan

[unreal sierra]

That's just what we're doing dude 😭

Yeah

[viscid lance]

Waiting some years for permanent berserk and new "uncontrolled mode"

Unfortunately as you said as It was referenced by dragonball... It would never stop, Just like dragonball lmao

[hot mason]

Would lowkey be hype

[hot mason]

Yeah that idea would only have to be used a couple of times at most before the idea becomes stale

Hear me out

Minibosses

That appear in your dimension

[unreal sierra]

Giants?

[hot mason]

Between giants and actual bosses

[unreal sierra]

Yeah Ik I figured it out

So basically

You stop for a moment to fight it

Not just kill

But it can't kill you (so it's not an actual boss)

But also you have to do stuff to kill it
so it's not a giant which you can auto kill

[viscid lance]

FF miniboss better be electric

[unreal sierra]

xD

[viscid lance]

And killable offline

🙏

[unreal sierra]

Separate upgrade for it incoming

[hot mason]

I think minibosses would have random spawn times in different dimensions

[viscid lance]

Alright.. this has me interested

[hot mason]

So one day there could be a chance of a miniboss spawning in the jungle dimension

[viscid lance]

Like in portal section you can see across different dimensions if theres the miniboss

[hot mason]

Exactly

[unreal sierra]

Also unrelated but we're getting close to 200 messages here lol

[viscid lance]

RNJesus would be hell with me

Unless it had limits of sorts like has to circle all dimensions before returning to one

[hot mason]

Maybe dimension specific minibosses?

Or certain quests involving them

[hot mason]

I was not expecting to discuss my idea this much but I'm glad

[viscid lance]

I mean game could be refreshed a bit

So makes sense

[fossil patrol]

cba reading any other message and probably said before, multiple times
1: 🔁
2: we shouldn't really allow people that are not at least at the beginning of #advanced-divinities-and-up to post content feedback
3: game is in development

[unreal sierra]

I just had a mindset for taking a lot

Lol

[misty solstice]

#2

could have at least read down to the second line of the post not that i disagree with what u said + major content feedback i doubt will be added anyways