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Also if you get hit with 1-2 MK2 missiles, your toreador may flip upside down
Yeah
Then you're done
That's why I dont use that or the stromberg
Till savage , hydra , lazer shows up
also can minigun them easy 
Depends honestly
They're so easy to kill with a minigun xd
Agency car with armour can survive a strafe
Yeah but the MK2 player would have to get off, which they wont do
Well they suck then can use mk2 nothing else puzzy's
It depends tbh
Wdym
my English not that good xd
Yeah I think that's what were talking about
Ya but not for to long tho 
on a free aim lobby itās a lot harder
if youāre auto aim
i mean
sure
ig
Probably on controller, bc I've tried, and its hard af to aim
Do we even have these on pc lobbys ?
I use mouse

yeah. itās really hard
Same
but honestly itās a lot more fun
because at least itās not
hurr durr spam left trigger
thatās why i ended up not playing pvp auto aim lobbies any more
because of that very reason
lmao
Yeah
All you gotta do is to aim at head level and it only takes 1 headshot and your opponent is gone
well
unless you like spamming the aim button for perma auto lock

Doesn't need any auto aim or something
get aimbot then
for pc i think thereās an option
oh fuck off 
If you plug in a controller, yes there is
Lol
What do I do with cargo keep it or sell it please someone
I'm not sure about M&K
And what upgrade
Mini gun bst kills ppl like with in a 1 sec something even when fired on body
sell?
upgrade to large warehouse
Wha
@tough spoke
and sell it if itās full
go to ceo office
Yeah
go to special cargo
ye
go to large
Yeah
choose one of them
Nah
Ok
Hello
im poor rn, didnt do a heist in weeks
Get a small warehouse and sell when you have 9 crates
Bst user's dont need them anyways 
Fr
Ye @latent pelican
Ikr its OP
only counter would be MK I and helis
maybe jets if youāre good enough
and just dive bomb
Make sure you use ghost org when selling
mk II if youāre upside down
yes
No a Heli wouldn't stand a chance against a BST'ed minigun
or solo pub
the āshoot me iām here, dive bombersā minigun
Ya it will smoke in seconds
fly above them, tilt it all the way back, punch it forward, essentially performing a dive bomb with rockets
My Savage does that a lot 
ye same
What heli are u talking about tho
Fpp mini can shot pretty high i don't think mk1 will also stand a chance until ur a pro at mk1 like joker 4 lyf
just any heli
provided youāre good enough with it
any heli pilot should be able to do that trick
thatās why you fly above them and shoot 90 degrees down
with the rocket
itās a bit finicky but doable
FPP Mini can shoot pretty high in the sky again *
Tbh, it only takes a couple seconds of A continuous minigun firing at your heli before it goes down
ik
itās a bit stupid
lol
but if you can maintain speed and elevation
you can get away with it
just
but you wonāt come out unscathed either
Still, most people I go against can take out my savage with their minigun or widowmaker after a couple of deaths
In open area like desert u can shot them from far without getting in minigun range but in city u have to go closer & fpp mini gun will shread it in no time

i mean, if they are using bst, iād just maintain elevation if anything
or just
back off
Savage is like paper man even cops shots at it , it starts smoking in no time xd
wait for it to pass
Lmao fr
But most helis can't take much tbh
ye
Ya even buzzard can lmao
itās a bit annoying how minimal damage they can take
ye
wish theyād buff it across the board
The buzzard has less health than the sparrow from what I've heard
since i do main helis mostly
Buzzard can take more then sparrow if I'm ri8
but have been abusing the MK I a lot as of late
mint ig
Fr
Joker 4 lyf ?
The MK1 is hard af to get kills with for me
but that wonāt really prevent me from my admiration for helis though
I only bought my mk1 after seeing his vids man & it's really fun when u learn how to drive it
trust me, iāve gotten a fair few kills with it
on XB, itās a lot harder
because we donāt have the free third person vehicle cam
that you lot have
but provided you can work around it
So u use like helis all the time in gta ?
itās gg
Isnt flying much easier on controller or am I wrong
mostly helis, but more MK nowadays
yes
but when it comes to the MK I
not so much
Yeah
because of the third person camera
Ah ok
tldr itās fixed
so like, if you turn one way while flying to look, itāll reposition back to centre
man Iād kiss ms Baker
itās annoying as hell
ngl
Bro tf
but if you can work around it
donāt lie and say you wouldnāt
it is deadly
I fly my mk1 with WASD, E,X & 8,5 on num pad so can't use mouse to look around xd when i learned it this way i didn't know we can use left side ctrl n shift instead of 8 n 5
Bruhhh
Do you fly with mouse or the numpad
Numpad
I've tried using the numpad but it jsut doesn't feel natural for me lol
Didn't know about ctrl & shift can be used instead of numpad 8 n 5
So I'm used to flying by num pad now lmao
Lmao
what keyboard n mouse good for gta?
Any that works for u 
k
Why, are you planning to get GTA on pc

mod menus
eeeee
Ok?
Anyone need help on setups or missions Cayo included
U can find many ppl in #lfg channels who need ur help ngl

what specs u got
I just checked on #953408732019167302 and they sent me here but Yh I get you š¤£š¤£
lol L
Is itali gto good car?
ya it is
xd
Thanks for answer
time to mod kreiger
i7-10875h, rtx 2080 super, 32gb ram, 1 tb ssd
I have a 3080, but not at home for the next 2 weeks

2080 was best I can get for a laptop
I already have a CEO office, should I buy another one since they're half off? And I don't have any crate warehouses, how many should I buy (and should I stick with small warehouses) to capitalize on double money crates? Will be playing solo, if it matters.
do triple crates; get the most expensive warehouse (better location)
Which ceo office do you have
if you have kosatka than sure
Maze Bank West, came free with Premium Edition (Epic Holiday Sale 2021)
I would buy a different one location wise
Thatās what I did
Just closer to the city
crates warehouses are meh
alr If you want to waste alot af time and than wait a few months
just to vet a couple mil
I mean I have the maze bank west and Iāve never changed it because now I have terrorbyte and arcade so I literally never have to visit the actual office ever
just using the free one
meh the game is boring
Ceo office is not as good as it once was
I just logged on today just to buy the krieger and get some kurumas and got bored after 30 mins
Which one do you prefer?
Iāll take the mc passives over active ceo
I did the same but I am still on the grind so Iām not bored just yet
lol
I have arcadius office
I would recommend that one
Well I already have everything I wanted
Close to my spawn point
Iām debating changing my krieger colour but idk Iām on the fence with it. I did anodized gold skin
Then yeah I can understand how itās boring
100%
The only properties I donāt have are weed farm, doc forge, and penthouse. Iāll get penthouse eventually but the others are not good at all. Right now Iām working on getting cool cars and curating a garage
i just went w black
@wintry heron It's relatively close to my high-end apartment (4 Integrity Way), Vehicle Warehouse/Arcade (both in La Mesa), and Nightclub (Mission Row) which is why I like it. @supple fractal I have an Oppressor and Kosatka for fast travel
Even with all the garage space you can get, you canāt store every single vehicle. But who wants every single vehicle bro. I think we are given way too much garage space
Like I have a shit load
location doesn't matter bc you'll get bored of doing it immediately
Penthouse, kosatka, apartment, property garages, arena workshop, agency, kosatka, terrorbyte, office (60 spots wtf), nightclub service, nightclub 3 or 4 garage levels
like Jesus bro
my man I really donāt need all this space lol
Clubhouse garage too
Auto shop too
Canāt forget that
ye
I also donāt understand people who merge cars. Yeah sure you can make stuff look cool. Butā¦why?
like bruh I think the cars look dope with their custom options that they come with. some people never satisfied huh
apparently
met some dudes today who do tons of merges and speed glitches and Iām like āman I donāt want anything to do with thatā
fair
Car is a car. āOh but the Benny wheels are dope!ā You donāt have enough wheel options already? Really?
damn
Is the hakuchou drag HSW the fastest bike?
Probably so. But I donāt think itās a good purchase tbh
think so
More speed is not always a good thing man. Especially on bikes
ye need control
Tear your face off on the concrete
Theres alot of xbox people on here
Shotaro is still my pick
always
I fee outnumbered
shinobi 𤤠𤤠š¤¤
That's what she said
literally 2
nah she would have said otherwise
mr Magic Bear
Dang so theres nobody here to do cayo perico btb with me?
True but I had to say it
Around a track or
more like tore a door off
Oh

there is one person but she's not online rn
Like most top speeeed
One of the race cars š are the fastest vehicles without a jet
faggio
Lol
toreador has HSW

Yeah faggio highest top speed itās just it takes 100 hours to accelerate
Bro does it?
idk
Like progen pr4 is really fast
ur the one on next gen

I donāt think it is
sad
I donāt remember seeing it on Haoās shopping list
all I want is weaponized ignus š© š© š©
doin cayo scout
k
All I want is regular ignus with HSW
y lol
Fr
I want a super fast ignus for my collection that doesnāt have a massive cock on the roof
Wheres all the ps4 peeps
I want a massive cock on top of my ignus š©
I want a massive cock on top of me
It's called "weaponized" for a reason 
I want a massive cock inside me š© š© š©

Tf?
ong it's 1 am 
I want a massive cock

just in general like I want to have one

Go to sleep
You know 80% of women donāt care about your penis size apparently and the vagina canal is only 5 inches anyways so
but anyways
hey itās educational
yeah sure
That's good news
But yeah letās move on
go on
Iām hungry af
So you think I shouldn't bother with crates unless it's a triple crate event?
I need some food like now
me too š©
Is there even any food models in gta
yup
Ok⦠just joined hoping to get some b2b cayo
Like other than donuts I see donuts everywhere
But please continue

Iām hooked
no Iām talking about food

Thx
I wonder why
šŗ
Would you also agree that I should move to the Pillbox Hill office? I have a Terrorbyte, I can also buy a master control terminal for my Arcade.
but barely any of the NPCs are fat
ye
So honestly I don't see the point IMHO
As an American, this is-
Actually there was a nice detail I noticed today
do you want to move to Pillbox office?

free kuruma
I watched an NPC park his car and get out yeah. So I walk up to his car and get in. Not locked so I just opened the door. And the dude starts running away all scared and stuff because I stole his car. No one else freaked out. Just him because itās his own car. That was cool

Then I ran him over in his own car
lol
guys how many kurumas have you already bought?
lollo
U menace
I'm only at like 20
5 @supple fractal
2
damn guys
you know you wonāt be able to sell it for money later
None yet
1 b4 the update
so none
Iām just sticking with one
ik
but it's funy
𤷠Feels kind of pricey when the Terrorbyte does basically the same thing as the CEO office. Just my opinion though, you may disagree
Sell? Oh no no no
Why would I sell a kuruma
idk for me ceo office is useless
should I just fill up a whole garage with kuruma
yes
Yeah
Yea
garages*
That's what I'm gonna do
same
š
The terrobyte is worth it imo
school ended so now I have way too much free time
F
I can finally watch morbius and buy kurumas all day 
Chad
W
im a call a cab
k
in gta
Maybe I wasn't clear, I already have a Terrorbyte. That's why I'm hesitant to drop money on a second CEO office even though it's in a better location.
You ever get hungry and the closer you get to eating food the hungrier you get
omg yes š©
Like you become more and more desperate like give me food I am hungry itās morbin time
Ahhhh ok, yeah the CEO office doewnt matter unless you want maze bank tower
Drink water helps a lot against the hungry
literally me rn š©
I have none with me
Iām just hungry and thirsty feel like a real homeless man right now
Bro dehydrated
althou I'm laimying in bed and refusing to got to sleep 
zamn
Eat ice?
anyone think cab is useless? in gta
go to bathroom and flush your head in a toilet
Nes
bro Iām in my car textin while driving I donāt have any ice I donāt have a freaking ice box in my car
okay green light gotta go guys
Turn off ur phone my guy
this mf

aight I just pulled up at the food sale building
Gn
@supple fractal Not really, I haven't been in my office since I bought a Terrorbyte. When was the last triple crate week?
thanks
What's the name of the place
idk but it can as well be in half a year
I'm sorely tempted to grind crates even if they're only double, because I need money and am bored grinding Cayo.
What level are u
Sonic
Lol
Why you laugh
Idk
you donāt like the food ?
Not that
It's just that its sonic
At level 120 youāve unlocked everything right?
Bro whatās funny about sonic
135
I have no idea

or what
Huh? Weapons/car custom are all unlocked at 120 what about unlocks 135
In-n-out>any other fast food chain
okay
You can hold more armor
but Iām not in the mood for that and Iām hungry
Level 89. Right now I'm doing TGG's method from Rags to Riches solo, which is vehicle cargo->headhunter->Paige contract job-sightseer->vehicle cargo source and repeat to make money. Tried the cocaine locker in an empty public lobby, I was able to take 2/5ths bar worth of product solo which was nice. But like the vehicle cargo, an empty public lobby means waves of aimbotters will attack you instead. I bought my own Cargobob for vehicle source missions offshore which took a lot out of my cash reseres. Right now I'm sitting on $1.22 million
Oh thatās bullshit š
Reasonable
You'll be surprised
Cayo perico repeat. More money and easy. Get yourself a submarine
I can hold 10 armour
I mean when would you use them?
I am familiar with the Cayo method. I wanted to do something different to make money, though. Explore what GTAO has to offer rather than do the same thing all the time.
Makes sense?
Oh ok
Why do you ask?
Curious, that's all
Oh my bad thought you didnāt had the submarine my bad
I see
Mostly for missions
I can make $1.1 million with the replay glitch but it gets boring.
Makes sense yes. Replay glitch isnāt possible in your own? Or is it
On PC it is
My bad then
On PC you can do the replay glitch solo. I rolled necklace and six stashes of gold and have been replaying that. The problem is, maximizing the gold take requires four people, and with a 55/15/15/15 split you make about as much as you do solo (with no gold).
where the hell my goddamn extra 4.8M
And anyone who's done Cayo with three other people knows what a pain in the ass it can be, those guards are glitchy and can get alerted for no reason
Just don't do the replay glitch 
Yeah for real
The guards be bugging
Sometimes I kill a guard and no one is around but somehow they know I killed him. I call it the Bloodbrother Glitch
Another option is to reroll for a better take (e.g. diamond and gold)
Same
anyone know why I got my money when buying a sharkcard but no bonus like rockstar said when booting up GTA
I don't like it either but there are very few ways to make big money relatively quickly. I'm surprised R* didn't go the extra mile and patch the replay glitch, to push customers onto shark cards and GTA+.
F
Not on TGG Discord but it's not against the rules in the /r/heistteams and /r/gtaonline Discords
I mean, you can do cayo without the replay glitch and still make $1.4M every 45 minutes
That's easy money if you ask me
Itās against rules here bruh. But look in lfg channels and you see glitches
I know it is. On other GTA Discords it is not against the rules, that's what I'm trying to tell you. Personally I'm not morally opposed to the glitch, if R* is going to nickel and dime us
In this discord
Okay okay but
how come people are not getting warned or banned for it here if itās against TGG rules
Ehh still it's a cheap money glitch for the easiest heist in the game
Itās really good tbh
Yws
Itās fun as hell
Yuh I just like flying across the island
I don't even use it to attack people
I just want to fly
And fast as hell you can catch up to some of the fastest cars in the game
These dudes were showing off their fast cars earlier and I said ālemme pull out my car Iāll smoke youā
Vigilante jet left em in the dust man
āMan if you hadnāt boosted I wouldāve beat youā
Thatās the whole point jackass
Lmao

Honestly I need a house on my Xbox account
A house?
I can't get anymore cars I only have a two storage garage
what
Oh no not on xbox
Wait you got the vigilante on not Xbox?
Letās be honest rockstar is really trying to get people to start playing again with the weekly updates being good
I thought PS3 servers shut down
Ew PlayStation player
Iām hella confused
They are
I mean it's not bAd
Orange youāre confusing tf out of me
not gonna lie
first your Xbox then youāre PS3 now youāre pc with Xbox cloud
What application
CloudBox wouldāve been a better name
But cool still gay cause itās PlayStation though
I play through my grandfathers xbox
XCloud sounds like a porno

Does it matter
You know you can play halo on Xcloud if you have ultimate
I know
Nope I just like hating on PlayStation
PlayStation is fine my problem is with Sony
Playstation still cheaping their gamers outta money
I wonāt go into the rant Iām too tired
But Sony really hasnāt done anything right for 5 years
Meanwhile Xbox has cloud gaming for a dollar
Same
But Xbox is Better because Sony never wants to share shit
Shits goated
Yeah I play through cloud on mobile
Remember today when I say this
And itās xbox aka Microsoft which has a lot of money to waste with game pass and gold discounts
Ahh
It's really good, no lag but the vision or whatnot gets Pixelated
In a few years, Sony will start charging 80 dollars for games
Remember I said this here
4 years Max
What you mean it costs 50$ for Bo2 still
70 dollars USD is the average new game price for PlayStation
Nah this why Iām on pc now you get low prices for everything and itās much simpler
No that's just cod
Is it tho
Nothing can relate to free games having micro transactions
Those mfs will make you spend thousands
Facts lol
I've already spent half a grand in Fortnite
Diablo immoral
These mf are brutal on your wallet
Fortnite is not even p2w youāre just giving them money for skins
Actually
I have the xenomorph skin
And it's black black
MFs can't see me at night

Also it's funny to see a xenomorph full sending after your ass with a SMG
Yeah I donāt spend money on Fortnite because itās not worth it and I got the battle pass for free and keep the v bucks from it for next battle pass
I buy skins cause I have a money spending problems
I just started playing Fortnite again to because my friend been bugging me hella
I spent over 500+ on bps, vbucks, Stw, Stw skins.
I dislike many things in the game but itās still fun
Yeah thatās what my brother did
I maybe only spent 60$ or $70 in total ever in Fortnite
Anyone run diamond casino w me
Oh yeah and I spent 30$ on the last laugh bundle which it has joker and poison ivy
And 90% of that stuff I bought I lost cause my brother messed up my account and reset it
š
I have all skins so far
Fortnite is so much worst every sense chapter 2
:| I have over 1,240 skins
Thereās no more story to anything
But DA ROCK
I got maybe 25 lol
Dwayne da wock jownson
Listen I'm only playing this season for Vader, Indiana Jones and for evie because damn she's hot
Simp
Stfu bet you watch women in the strip club
At least I get to buy my women and see them every day
Yeah simp
But I am also manly doing it for Indiana Jones

Video game characters aren't my type
I simp but no fuck
Unless it's a character from VR or GTA
Pov car just got flat tier mid high way
That's tough
You donāt got anything to pack
Exactly brother
Go outside 
Or maybe you're just young 
With a bio like that? You need to have some confidence or youāre never gonna get anything
Lmao
Stop playing Fortnite thatās a tip or donāt be a Fortnite kid no check wants that
Listen to duck
your bio honestly makes me want to laugh at you and also cry for you
I just realized since the kuruma is free this week I could just sell my current kuruma and get another one for free lol
#cashback
Lol
Noice
is the kuma a helicopter
ā¦
What? I'm new

@carmine quartz are you a kid or an adult?
ā¦
Ight

also a graduating certification
I have a job in your mom
sus
Yo...
Lmao


Yo my uncle too bro
šš¤£
Sure
You're raping your grandma...
No other way around
Sad family
Yo whats up biddies
What
Stfu lil nugget before I slap dat ass into a heist
Welcome to #šāgta-discussion
Familyās everything except everything itās not
Thank you
Do it
Bet what time?
Lets go dm rwal quick
Be worried weāre talking my grandpa being in my ass
Oh
Yall are lucky none of the mods are online lmao
Lmao ain't that a bad thing?
And a few other things anyways how yāall doing
Lmaooo š
We aināt doing anything that bad just messing around
Any who play gta new gen
You'll be surprised
Yo how do I stance my jester in ls car meet ?
Anyways
?
I hate strict mods and discord servers
Cause all we doing is laughing and having fun making weird jokes
eeeeeeee
Yes about Grandpa in your ass
eeee
That's concerning
ever sick
Yeah itās only on days that end with ay
Yo how do I stance my jester in ls car meet ?
You don't
?
It says I got 100k from prime but i got absolutely nothing
Whatās actually concerning is the fact Iām on the side of a high way with a flat tier and weāre having trouble trying to put in a spare cause it wonāt fit
F
Yeah
Yoo who on gta old gen xbox
Is it underinflated?
My luck as been good for the past 4 days until now š¬š
Hi
Hello little weird cat profile picture person
Hi big tnt weird
Iāll explode all over you
Question
Yeah
Does this server have a regular general chat cause i got forgot my password for my other account
always lurking chat 
soup
That ig
Not there for me sadly
im a watch naruto bc gta got boring
Understand


whats the free car under?
Under southern san andreas
ty
Sup
I sadly dont have the fun events and stuff on my sidebar i only got gta and thats it
Sadly
LJT
English
You will gain access in around 24h
I'll give you access
Thank you bro
The ching chongers
Xd
Btw its not racist if I'm part asian
do they just throw their PC into the wok to fry it?
or do they just deliberately crash everyone elseās and hope theirs donāt fry?

I was having fun with some chinese n chilling but then a red dot chinese tped n boom
Smh they always ruin the fun
Thank you @final forge
They spawn some stuff which our game couldn't load or something n crashes something like that ig
welcome to crash mod auto 5; expanded and enhanced
No problem
where player safety is like the jurassic era
non existent
but lest we forget theyāre a 6 billion smth odd company
oh no, how could player safety be their number 1 priority!
clearly shark card revenue takes preference!
pfff!

fucking rockstar honestly
Game is too much old now
itās a joke at this point
Quick question: Is it just me or does your protagonist pass out in the nightclub + then end up at the toilet ?
Also, do they get super drunk + then have another drink + then become undrunk? šš„“š
(Then passes out undrunk)
the fact that PC has no player safety for a company as rich as they are
is what is appalling
regardless of how long itās been out
look at games like:
wows
WoW
WoT
they have great player safety, but rockstar?

ik
itās why i refuse to play pc⦠unless single player
We just have to deal with it 
or fiveM
honestly i feel bad for you lot though 
but at the same timeā¦
orb cannon glitchers
godmode
eh..
And what are you so worried about? The worst that could happen is someone finds a general location of where you live
Lol
oh idk, perhaps the fact that if you go in w/o a VPN, and start to DDoS you
& they can't do a fking thing about it 

I personally don't know anyone who's been DDoSed
Same here
surprising
And you'd have tomake someone extremely angry for that to happen, bc not many people want to risk getting put into jail
DDoSing is a federal crime
iām not sure how it works here, but iād imagine youād have to go through the supreme court, maybe international courts if needed
though not 100% sure
Yeah most people threaten to DDoS but don't go beyond that
Whoever does is a no-lifer
i mean,
at that point
iād rather someone just RID join me and crash my game
but still
itās shite no matter how you look at it
That's happened before, minus the crashing part
eh, it does happen
if they have good enough menus that is
I sorta baited a guy out of godmode, got one kill on him, then said "1-0 bye"
Then joined a new session

But he followed and started to blow me up continuously and I just alt+f4
Fr
āoh no, score!! oh such a capital punishment he committed! i must perform brave things to ensure the future of this game, including the sacred menu!ā
insert crowd gasping
like ffs
Just join in a inv only lobby 90% of modders won't be able to join that
i thought RID joining would negate that
no?
How do you pick up a car with the Cargobob's grappling hook? For some reason I'm not getting it.
Inv only
Idk i abused a lot of modders n teased them
& changed session
If they follow
I even gave them challenge to join me in my next session
Inv only
& no one till now joined that

They use those shitty free mod menus they can't do shit
Can't even kill u in passive lmfao
Paid modders are rare af
Lol
I don't see paid modders
thatās a fat fucking yikes
and then R* is like
āoUr DeCiSiOn Is FiNaL, nO AcCoUnT cAn Be UnTeRmInAtEdā
man
pc is just
built different
in every sense of the manner
i stg
šŖ

No u
No u
die
No u


hah i got the gun

What type of bomb should I get on the b-11
Fuck the Velum
anyone know why i haven't unlocked survival mode
Nope
I did geralds meth'd up mission but still never got a call from ron
Usually unlocks during tutorial
oof idk then
the videos i watched online said do geralds mission then ron will call me to go to someones house
What rank are you
46
Damn I remember when I was that rank
Been awhile
There's no signal box in my cayo
@torn crown Look on your map for TP.
Trevor Phillips
what better hydra or the p996
Not sure
Ayo
alr
is 2 people enough to sell a full weed factory
If you can each do 2 vehicles then you could possibly do it
Itās prob hidden
Does anyone know how to make my wheels slammed or like stanced ?
can anyone give me money so i can get an arcade
can anyone give me money so I can buy food?
can someone help me get an arcade
No I didn't spawn in at first
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itās certain cars
like the vectre
plz i dont even have 300k i just need an arcade
Dude grind cargo

@short lake
@loud knot





