#๐โgta-discussion
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ah i see
@hushed lantern pls back to back casino perico uwu

muted for talking about glitches ๐ฟ


hold on
lol
Whatโs the best way to make money as a beginner
when???
@midnight basin send it
Ok
thats what im saying

watch tgg rags to riches 
gerald missions or vip missions
Buying money
W
i followed that guide from the start to the end 
You canโt beat buying money
W
Bruh
Do missions , gather 2.4m for kotsaka, then abuse cayo perico heist
Iโm serious
whats the best way to make money other than buying it
Facts
now i grind cayo and be depressed because its repetitive but pays a lot and its solo 
๐
just did cmm but my progress glitched out and got stuck to 25/26 ๐
i still have the money for some reason 
How many 8 million dollar shark cars should I buy
can someone do casino with me pls? I need like 1 mil more because im trying to buy an arcade as my first business to do this heist and I have a mic
I'm pretty new


buy shark cards and buy the luxor deluxe with it 
Thatโs not an answer
best plane in the game 
sorry
You will delay gta 6 for another 10 years
Yeah but how many
no just no

buy faggios
The Luxor delux is the reason Iโm buying
faggios are kinda nice
But how many

as much as you can
Ok

can someone do casino with me pls? I need like 1 mil more because im trying to buy an arcade as my first business to do this heist and I have a mic
I'm pretty new
fill all of your garages
I donโt understand
Donโt you need an arcade for the heist
no
u just need the yacht bro smh
Is it worth buying the agency ?
not unless somone sets it up
Oh sorry wrong heist
$100 wont get you a luxor deluxe anyway it costs $10m 
Yes
I want to buy many
for pissing tryhard griefers sure ๐
what
yep
Is the story line fun @mint zealot
2 mil and passive income
the agency is cool 
yes
not person you mentioned but its decent
Definitely, imani tech, ammu nation inside, you can teleport to different parts of the map, and good pay missions
80k even with no bonus thats a win win right there 
Really is it better than nightclub @tough mountain
yep
in terms of money making
no
Sheesh imma get on that thanks @tough mountain
Can you store the MKII other places than the terrorbyte? so you can use it for cayo prep?
Agency is the best spawn property in gta5 online
yeah
iirc garages on safehouse,moc,maybe even avenger
you can use the mk2 for cayo preps
ture!!
Is there any particular agency I should buy @tough mountain
i prefer the sparrow just cause its faster
just be an mc president and request it 
not really,you can buy any location you want
ye same
still need a clubhouse 
Thanks @tough mountain
Buy the cheapest agency its good
np
thats what i did cause im a cheapo ๐
i bought little seoul because im a gta cheapskate 

What upgrades should I buy @tough mountain ๐๐
No joke buying shark cards are the best way to make money in gta
i can make money but im too scared to spend it 
Same
Im cheapo and i love it 
buy the vehicle customization if you can
so you can get imani tech and body armor if you have the new cars
^this guy doesnโt know what they are talking about
the only reason i bought the agency is to pet chop 
what's that
same bro #cheapos4life 

After i got some cars and properties, i am really bored, i usually look for hostile and toxic lobbies and fight some players. How time changes
yeah same when i hit rank 100 i just felt nothing 
yeah same,buying new planes too to use it on freemode warzones
i had fun playing gta 5 in just a month
after 1 month of playing gta online its just nothing 
i've been playing for 2 years now 
I use lazer a lot to trap high level griefers in ewo loop, i didn't buy , i just bought fort zancudo hanger and use free lazers, bcz cheapo for life 
i thought its gonna be fun like the gta online youtubers i watch 
my man 
i started last november
thought the game was fun back then
until i knew i have to do cayo again and again and again 
the most fun for me was starting out
everything was new to me
my goal was to get nice cars ๐
here i am today chilling with 22 million and still buying cheap versions of expensive ones
i have 20m and im scared to buy stuff 
help me im broke

ive spending too much time on cayo perico then i realize other heist exist
ok 
I will never buy stun gun
Yo what should I do to get cash when Iโm new
But i bought the arcade just for trolling with drones lol, i will never do casino heist
kosakat
i did spell it wrong
Bro I said Iโm new
How am I supposed to get a kosakta
save it for the next update I guess?
I did all and with the payouts combined I still need a mil
look up the rags to richest..
once you hit 2.2m just ignore the rest of the suggestions and buy the sub
K
arernt u get the free milion
eh i dont know i thought about buying a shinobi because i saw it ramps over most cars
and its light
because i have 20m i thought "oh hey as long as my money doesn't go below 15m"
then i got scared spending money again 
bro when i got 10 milion
i quickly spend it
like one day and my money down to 1 million lmfao
hopefully on a luxor deluxe
you got a yacht yet?
but fun as sametime

im not a bike person so correct me if im wrong here
ah the manchez
why buy the luxor when the Yacht exists
why buy the yacht when kosakat exists
luxor is the biggest waste of money
Yacht > Kosakta

I bought the Zr380 arena car, it's my favorite so much fun, the only bike i like is the mk1
sounds lame
sounds good for me
yacht is better
no
Same as lazer, you can find them free in lsua 
im saying im gonna buy the luxor deluxe but i dont even have a hangar 
agency is def the best
agency do be pog
lsia or fort zancudo
agency
koskta gives you best heist in game at the moment
zancudo 100%
it has a good story
the lsia one isnt gold though and you cant drink and smoke cigars 
Does any of you have had issues with the smuggler plane not wanting to go up? It just drops hight and ends up crashing on the way to cayo.. keeping the throttle maxed and tilting joypad back so it should go up.. but doesn't.. just had 3 issues where it did that in a row..
yea the contract follows up the cayo perico story
i doont even know how rich is mr rubio is
skill issue
i robbed him like 100 million times

10m for gold and Champaign sound good 
controller or mouse issue?
or keyboard?
inverted flight?
cause it is 
I get it in the air from the ground, and then it just goes like "nope" and down again
the yacht has better champagne
oh that happen to me too
i just open autopilot lol
i just fly it
im a decent flyer
i did pilot school to max out my flying
same
im on the titan plane one and i just stopped

i have 60% though
3 bars
so i think thats good enough
Yes, everyone stops at that shit lol
im a max my strengh
i punched people at the pier to max that out 
imagine not being max everything on stats
that was fun
lol i do beach
touch grass
Im sad that there is no cats in gta online 
tL
i did stealth and strength at the same time
i do boxing so i love punching people lol
add floppa to gta
Stealth is useless skill
kinda
and like stealth walk faster
yeah i only maxed out stealth for cayo
because i didnt know the guards are dumb 
didnt max it lol
and i want to have max stats anyway
sa e
what
You just fly any plan for some time, that's how i got maxed flying
is there a helicopter mission on the flight school
i just was a good kamikaze pilot lmao
gotta save 3m
Anyone think the unoin depository heist for the autoshop pays good since the double money
For scouting cayo during the prep do you ignore the ones at exit point and go straight for cell tower or do you scout as much as possible?
For sure, you get that free lazer and fly
That's how i got maxed out
i just go to the tower, check primary target, parachute to the main dock to look for secondaries, then i pause, go to creator, pause and join an invite only session from the creator
it saves time 
its better than intentionally getting yourself caught and going back to los santos yourself because you spawn in the kosatka doing the creator thing
I bury people so I love ki-
Oh wait
Airport has better loot, scop it
wha is the best money making method that isnt cayo perico
lol
So it saves your findings if you make a new session while on cayo?
you love kids?!?!?!?
yeah just let pavel finish talking
What kind of individual would actually love those evil sociopaths
I mean
No ofc theyโre great

Nice, thanks for the tip
lol
@inland elbow does sadly
You mean myst
Well they do taste good with some sauce
Bro what
lol

Steam em, grill em you can cook em in all sorts of ways

rotisserie style hehe

๐
Is cyberpunk good
Never tried that only been able to eat 7 and a half of them.
Damn
rookie numbers
Oh
wtf dont waste the other half
Heavy grinder 
lol
Well of course I gave the other half to mah dog
So cyberpunk isn't like GTA
Sometimes I let him loose in the kindergarten and I just love watching him go
๐๐๐
Nice
lol
thats wasting good meat tho
๐ 
When ya climb a ladder in cyberpunk you do a whole dance
time to collect mod stats cow


yeah
Of course I store the leftovers after he is done
ah good

Eat your dog
lol okey
This is the most gta discussion this channel can ever be
lmao
Y e s
You're new here then
...
We discussed everything here
Oppressor MK2? more like Depressor MK2
Be it their mums, my lilpp, politics, segg
Even where you live~
Balls
Oprresors have become like flying eggs with imani tech, i cook them with my c4 ๐

No ๐
It is tho
Cringe
10-15 min
Shark cards bruh
I tried it and dear god it was frustrating
I only have 700k
Even with a whole team one guy left after 4 resets
its ez
See my last vid was 16 mins my new vid im editing rn is 8 so yeah
i have 3k rn
Maybe I should try and buy an auto shop
I have an mc

B4 i had any heist i just grinded auto shop lol
autoshop kinda worth it imo
Cash
I like vidios below 17 min
below 30 mins
I think 8 might be good for YouTube
Ye
unless you are a big creator
I have 700k
16m in just 3 days playing cayo 
Nah big creators is like 20 mins for gta

Okay, now open your mind up and listen to me Kendri-
i meant like bigger names, not for gta tho

unless rp
Un contract?
boink
Nah 30 mins is to long still unless its a live
Ooooooooooh
15 minutes vids are good
I have never done that
Depends on the vid tho
lives usually 1h+
Its so easy fr
Lmao
Nic dogo @wintry heron
eh fair
Yeah if its ur first time doing it then no
Don't buy any upgrades, just buy agency 2m,
no sh-t lol
He is broke , he shouldn't
Heyo
i own 3 motorcycle businesses, sub, ceo office, autoshop, bunker and high end appartment, for money making
I want the kosatka
Thatโs awesome
New here, came looking around since uhh randoms in online sessions are do doo
also MOC
Im looking to get 3 mc business for the nightclub, best for passive income
I own one mc business and ceo but donโt make money of ceo agency yet
im planning on getting coke and meth labs
Coke is the best mc business
Meth lab is good too
Definitely, they give the best money per game houre for nightclub
also everything else to set up for nightclub
Documents is bad so is weed
ik
just bought em when they were on sale lmao
What level are u
Yeah I understand why
yeah a little extra cash
I have cash since with the starter pack I get it for free
anybody gotta empty lobby
Im lvl 76 or sum and own everything
Nice Iโm lvl 32
I got it for free
And itโs not that bad

i got cash bc that was near the motorcycle club i started off with
But If you donโt get cash for free just get coke
Bro trust itโs not bad
Made 70k today
Basically for nightclub, you just buy storage and own five business, bunker(free), hanger, cocain methlab and weed. Wait for 1m and sell
Yikess
Yeah thatโs the club I have rigth now since I got it for free
Eh itโs a start
i bought one in town, when it was on sale also lol
Honestly if you want money I recommend saving up 2.2 mil
Nice
And buying the kostaka
Thatโs what Iโm doing currently have 700k
it's basically a weapon workshop 2.0
should i get sparrow in sub?
yes
Definitely
I donโt buy supplies I just steal since buying cost too much
._.
I always buy
Yes
I use sparrow more than mk2
ah okey
I would not make profit if I would be buying
ill save up 2m sometime
Its me in dms
oh
Ok got it
Same
Explain
buying supplies more better if you have upgrades
I canโt afford upgrades
And stealing is east
ah then save up for sub, easier money
don't get the business 
Why
Find someone to run you a cayo and make your way quickly
I donโt have the sub
And no one wants to work with me
it's not worth it 
Starting it is
Find someone to give you 85%, ask in cayo perico section
I got the business for free
I did multiple times
while later yall
i could whenever i have free time
just need to do set ups
yeah true
those were nice
Guys what car is the best car for a beginner player
faggio
I thought they were triple tho

When payhit phones missions were double, oh my got 175k in 3 minutes 
Yes
Samee
Kuruma Armored or the Kosatka 
No faggio
Pink faggio
faggio
Si si
Faggio with upgrades
faggio is good though 
No faggio
Si si
is the sparrow worth it
with the uber mirrors 
when getting the sub
Yea
how much?
1.8
.
its the best investment for doing cayo
im to broke
do cayo then 
50k is not alot


When i started i got sub only, did 3 cayo then bought sparrow
what
ages ago
Just buy faggio bro
the setup costs 25k
nah imm steal one from npc
do cayo
i dont have the sub
not the faggio mod though you cant have uber mirrors 

mk2 is nice pls don't bully
jk
mk2 is for noobs
YEEE
Yeaaaaaaaa
Find someone to give 85% cayo
Faggio for pros
Faggio for gta veterans
Indeed
๐๐๐๐๐
Anyone know a way to win podium
faggio mod with uber mirrors can tank 1000 orbital strikes 
I fight lazer with faggio
pray
Lol
Pray for the wheel to give you the price less podium car
Yes it did for me, i got the T20
but i wont trust mrboss for shit 
Iโve seen one that says 3 seconds after L to spin spin it and it didnโt work
hes probably milking the shit out of the gta 6 reveal right now
Lol
Everyone is milking now
Just like they milk the 'can this stop the train in gta'
I do 5 secs
Works?
Yes
i tried it
Iโll try
Try spinning the wheel with minimum speed
How lol
if you do the 4 second thing
Just tap L stick or what
your character will spin the wheel like an old man whos paralyzed from the neck down
Lol
Is the D10 car good?
ask people on #๐โvehicle-flex i think all of em are car persons
I wish they bring back the plant that make you an animal
i got the t20 podium vehicle first try
It was used for fast rank up yea
kkinda insane
i just want to change my widowmaker to a minigun
i got the slamtruck podium vehicle 
like a month ago

i mean i cant complain its free
Ah shit don't remember me
Shit covered with ice cream ๐ฉ
I love that car, it has a great sound
i thought i was gonna get it but i got 15k rp instead 
mf stopped before the t20 part 
Lol, getting rp is like getting old with no money
i mean im not rank 120 yet so i cant complain

I remember running streets like a donkey with the slamtruck thinking it can hold cars

What is a slamtruck
Yea the faggio would make happy wondering los santos
Yep
I've never died using a faggio
Ur to op
In it
You have to be bad to get blown up on that thing
5 messages that could have just been 1 message
Guy is really excited about that Faggio
Indeed
like i said the faggio tanks 1000 orbital cannons
I got so pissed with gta today, i did scop mission like 10 times and wasted almost 250k but most of the time i get tequila
100%

Just accept the tequila
are you gonna do b2b
The Faggio indestructible
It is, yes
Doing that doesn't guarantee that your primary will change
Should have just accepted tequila

True
I did change once to necklace but i was aiming at pink daimon since it was hard mode
maybe hes gonna do b2b
Tequila is 990k say u get ruby you already wasted 250k no point
If you get tequila I recommend just going in solo and grabbing it and getting out you will reset the % of the primary loot
I hop rockstar owner get a tequila in his back
With tequila you can make at least a minimum of 1.3 mil on hard mode
Bonds with hard mode give 1.6, big difference
Not really
If you think 300k in this game is a big difference your funny
You canโt even buy anything useful with 300k
you can buy a faggio mod 
minimum of 1.3 mil
Im talking about at least 4 cayo a day, i smoke that thing
Not if you already wasted 250k tho...
I actually did 1 tequila heist to cover the loss
Than why do you care about me 300k
It just piss me off getting tequila every single time
If you donโt reset the primary % you are always going to be pissed off
Also imagine being pissed off at pixels on a screen
im on hard mode now hopefully ill get pink diamond with lots of gold
Yo
What do you mean
The primary target have a set % of spawning in unlike the casino this % is not set when you start the scope out it is set when you complete the heist so the only way to reset the % is by completing the heist
because rockstar
Cause suicide never the answer
So inspirational
They are good is you like Nintendo games I guess
also imagine interaction menu ewoing when you can blow yourself up with a sticky bomb
or an rpg
Suicide isn't always the answer, but is always a option
lol
Not every option is the right one
Doesn't mean you can't choose that option
But thatโs why none of them are mandatory 
True
Rockstar being the good guy, like 500$ would prevent you from that
Sometimes in gta u just get stuck and have to end yourself just like irl
How do I find/do the pursuit race thing for the LS car meet?
Yeah not everyone has a rpg or sticky bombs
stepsisters dont ewo though 
Talk to the guy near the entrance of the car meet
Buy them ez
Not everyone is rich
Get money ez
Itโs not that easy
Thatโs easy money
they can buy shark cards to buy an rpg or a sticky bomb 
Now thatโs good advise
Why does it always go to shark cards๐
Well it is there are so many ways to get money itโs so easy
Ask in car flex section, maybe you will find answer
Like what
Iโm new and itโs not going great
Missions. All the heists. All the businesses.
Like there is so much
You need money for businesses
Heist are hard and Iโm so bad
You didn't get your first free 1 million?
Do contact missions
yes 
I did with the starter pack
gerald missions are cool
Whatโs that
Cap
Talk to Gerald or simion
damn modder fr wrecked the session
Well, we all passed this period, just do contact mission for 1 week untill you hit 2.3m and buy kotsaka
Gerald missions are hard alone and simion pays like 10k
Iโm trash at driving
Iโm trying to do apartment heist
Anything you do in this game gets you money you cannot expect to make millions straight away
Ik but itโs hard
jokes on him he had to pay -1040340434329 for destroying my personal vehicle 20 times 
Sometimes I feel like Iโll never make money
But itโs not hard dude
How
Man just be patient
Easy for you to say
I am just not good
Gerald missions are not hard they give you a gun
Iโm not good at shooting
I get killed instantly
Iโm trying
Can you actually have a session with no modder on pc
The game literally has the strongest aim assist ever
yea
But I always see these dudes with a lot of money
that one was the first one i had in awhile actually
And yet I am still bad ๐
They have been playing for longer like I said you cannot expect to be earning a lot of money straight away
Yeah I guess
Iโll just do all the apartment missions and save up for the sub
Once u get 2.2m u make hella money
From my experience, i had to play 3 weeks to get some real cash
You start off small then you buy business to make passive income to the buy things to be able to do heist to then buy more business for passive income
I played 1 week
I have an MC buissines
But Iโm not making profit
i was a level 70 smtn with only 5 mil lmao
Buy whale shark card with game buy kosatka learn how to do cayo boom instantly millions in a day
Why would you spend money on this game
People have been telling me not to
Shark cards are not worth it at all
Seriously, just by playing contact mission continuously, i quickly got another 1m and bought the kotsaka, then life just got better
What that
Because the normal one without the shark was 29.99 and the whale shark card had a sale when I was gonna buy the game so I only spent 23 bucks
Still not worth the price
How much in game money can I get with 25 US dollars
You can make that amount of money in less than a day and they charge you like a quarter of the price of the whole game
Not easy for me
It was on sale the criminal enterprise with the game and online and whale shark card only 23 bucks
Open your phone, quick jobs, and choose contact mission, you will be automatically transferred to a random mission
Are they easy
Im telling you bro don't
I make 2 million I a day
And with that it means me having nearly 500 million means that my bank alone not include other cars and other shit I own is worth more than the game itself by a shitload
I trust u lilluie
Whaaaaa
Don't buy it man
Don't give Rockstar more money
Werenโt you just telling me yes
Yes easy, and by doing them many times you will remember them, you just do them for some time you will see money coming
Do NOT buy shark cards
Oh ok thanks
Oh pls don't buy shark cards
They are not worth it
BECAUSE before I got the game there was a bundle which was on sale which is why i got it
Yeah but should I buy them or not
NO
The criminal enterprise pack is also not worth it
Oh ok
I wonโt buy shark cards
Thank god
But are you sure I shouldnโt buy a 20 or 50 dollar one
Imagine buying 1m for 20 bucks where you can make it in 40 minutes game play
Man listen I couldn't but the game only I could only buy the bundle we are not like xbox
Yessss we are sure
Gives you the worst bunker, the worst office, shit cars, one MC business
Itโs not easy for a new player
Im starting to think you are a troll
We get it
At least itโs something
You can buy the game from the PlayStation store I have a PS5 dud
But itโs not worth the real money you spend on the game
When I tried only the game it said overview
As if I already got kt
But you start with a million
1 million is nothing
You are not different than me 2 month ago, i just play the game and money comes by time
I got the pack and donโt regret it
You should
Easy for you to say
this MF-
Who
I will run a Cayo with you and give you 85% of it if your that desperate
Really!
Like dude itโs not hard to make money in this game
You do you man, you got many suggestions, at the end pls just stop complaining
true
Listen its a game, not worth spending money irl, its harder to get money irl then gta

i'd probably save up money for gta 6
Iโm not complaining this is not easy
Earthquakeeeee
Man
This guy I swtg
Your probably right
What in another 5 years lol
lol
Natural Disaster
If you are honestly that desperate for the money I will run the Cayo with you @wintry heron and give you 85% but only if you use that money in a smart way and buy something that will get you money so you donโt complain itโs hard to make money
I will
Buy the sub
Ok I have to go set it up
Bunker trash
He just want to get rich right away. You never struggle with money in gta
Iโll buy the sub so I can do the cayo heist and make money
Buy sub then just waste all ur money bc who cares u can make it back so fast
Yes I like rich
I just grind cayo buy the car I want mess around with the car have some fun then I just repeat
No but seriously there are a lot of player picking on me for being poor and itโs not fun
Same
@wintry heron do you want to sit there in my CEO while I do the setups you donโt have to do anything but being in the CEO will give you some extra money as well
I swearbif you buy the mf oppressor I'm done
i have never encountered someone like that in gta
I canโt today
This mf-
when i started out i had 1 mil
I have
and kosatka was on sale
I bought the oppressor to do missions
Who
so it was easy for me in the beggining
๐๐๐ imagin people helping him get the sub just to get mk2 at the end
Well let me know when you wanna do it then Iโll have one ready to go
Fr
Tomorrow
K
Itโs like 11 pm right now
i use the opp mk1 not mk2 lol
I appreciate it @vale sierra
Opp mk1 is funner
i have an active casino but im on pc
I have a active pretty much everything lol
i only do casino and cayo
Im done with gta after getting tequila eeverytime
How much is the base Kosatka
2.2
I only have 2 fun vehicle osnthe toreador and scramjet
Im trying to fly mk2 upside down
yeah its good for fighting other mk2s
Goodluck ig
2.2 i recommend waiting for a discount
I use mk2 for casino and sparrow for cayo, but my friend told me that I needed the mk2 it would help and such so ye
nice
Ok @wintry heron you wonโt be able to get a kosatka straight after the heist as itโs 2.2 million but you will be close to it. Depending on how long you are on tomorrow I can always run 2 with you so that you then have a sub and can run the heist yourself and get millions
Nah you'll make so much more
Thank you so much
true but discounts are always worth it if you get it
especially if it discounts the sparrow too
My friend only helped me invest then I helped someone to get 15% then boom kosatka is mine
I am usually on for a few hours
No point in waiting tho
get sparrow if you plan on grinding cayo
Ok just message me
i used to wait
Whats sparrow
Iโll message you tomorrow
Mmi so disrespectful
Yes, and just 1 minute cooldown, i use it more than mk2
mmi we expect the unexpected
same
4.6 milliln
Nice
For earning 2 million a day you is poor
Its 10k
??? last time i got 20k
20k for agency vehicles
10k
Lol Mines only 10k
I only started yesterday chill
;-;
paying 10k for defending yourself against a mk1 griefer 
i used to have 20 mil and now i have 200k no joke
I use remote control car against griefers, they pay 20k when they destroy my car

Do you need the arcade for the sub?
haven't bought the contract vehicles so i have no imani tech cars 
no
No
Then what do you need
just talk to martin madradzo or something and you can buy
Money
talk to mini madrazo in the music locker
2m
he is in the casino music place
you need the arcade for the casino heist
I talked to him
Go to music locker I recommend nit worrying until you actually playing game
Go to the music locker connected to the casino thats all
then go to warstock
all you need now is money

Yet you think that you have enough knowledge to say that the criminal enterprise pack is worth it
Ok
i got it for free
Gta 101 guides 
Same
I never said it was Worth it
9.99 ot ain't
You did
and it was discounted so it is worth it
a bit
worth it
since it comes with the game on steam
in pc
Bro the facility with the enterprise pack
Even for free it isnโt worth it ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Paleto bay 
I bought gta for 30 dollars
free 1 mil for just buying the game is worth it anytime
i bought it for 15
I bought for 23
How long you been playing for
Modders
Yeah I do kinda regret it
1 year lol
I got the game for 15$, and they give me 1m free on ps4
I bought it for 20
Itโs not worth it
it is for me since i got it for free
I bought a used disc at gamestop
but if its not free then not worth it
Oh no oh no
Probably Premium edition
Like I said even for free itโs it worth it
it helped me get kosatka
its your opinion
Nah it was fine I've had it for years now
Fr
I have no idea about editions, i jist went to play store and got it
I could've shipped you a brand new one








