🚔┃gta-discussion

[ivory torrent]

Who cares lmao

[steep wyvern]

i already know i own you in siege mate

😹

[ivory torrent]

No one enforces that

[spark rock]

I’m working on trying to get to 100 mill before gta 6 comes out and I’m doing it all legit

[safe zephyr]

Who flexes that?

😭

[ivory torrent]

But anyways, so

Let's go back to gta talk

[steep wyvern]

who doesn’t

😹😹

[ivory torrent]

Once you get the hang of it, it's easy af

[safe zephyr]

Should i grind for a yatch rn?

[ivory torrent]

Your choice

[safe zephyr]

I got nothing to buy

[spark rock]

I’m doing it 100% legit no glitch allowed

[ivory torrent]

Well gl

[safe zephyr]

Insane grind

[ivory torrent]

I'm past 100M and never did any of that either

[spark rock]

I been working on that from 2013 I stopped playing for 2 years I just got back into gta o last night

[ivory torrent]

Fair enough lmao

[safe zephyr]

How much money u got rn?

[steep wyvern]

don’t you have 1 billion

[ivory torrent]

[safe zephyr]

😭

1b is crazy

[spark rock]

I love I can have quite in invite ones now

[ivory torrent]

@steep wyvern yes I have 2.06B legit but whatever, the fun counts

[safe zephyr]

Do you own everything in the game?

[spark rock]

I’m gonna fill my hanger cargo

[unborn bronze]

He doesn't.

[steep wyvern]

how is playing gta everyday just grinding monkey fun for months

[ivory torrent]

Everything that I WANT to, yeah

[ivory torrent]

Idk

[safe zephyr]

Nice

[ivory torrent]

I like repetitive stuff like GTA

[unborn bronze]

Hangar* 😭

[safe zephyr]

To each their own

[spark rock]

Told u I was high

[unborn bronze]

No you didn't!

[safe zephyr]

He did

The first thing he told you was that

[ivory torrent]

Well

[spark rock]

I use my meds and play gta

[ivory torrent]

If there's 1 thing I learned from grinding this much cash.... it's to set boundaries

[spark rock]

Yep not to buy everything right away build the cash up frist rule 1

[spark rock]

Rule 2 no glitching

[unborn bronze]

He said he's baked

[spark rock]

Yes

Which is another term for high

[ivory torrent]

I don't glitch or mod

[unborn bronze]

Diffrent words.

[spark rock]

Same here

[unborn bronze]

You mod

Stop lying

[spark rock]

Not in American English

[ivory torrent]

Moderate yeah

[unborn bronze]

Yes

[ivory torrent]

Not mod gta cash

[unborn bronze]

Mod

[safe zephyr]

Same thing

[ivory torrent]

Dumb ahh

[safe zephyr]

😭😭😭😭

[halcyon juniper]

Some of us simply enjoy it.

[spark rock]

It’s American English

[ivory torrent]

Fr

[safe zephyr]

Baked and high

Same shit different toilet

[spark rock]

lol

Do yall just listen to your own music while playing I don’t really listen to in game radio

[halcyon juniper]

I wake up, grind 7-10 million per day in game and then I chill out, just fly helicopters around or something lol

[halcyon juniper]

Spotify all the way

[ivory torrent]

I listen to my own yeah

I got tired of the in game radio

[spark rock]

I started using Apple Music

[halcyon juniper]

I use Apple Music sometimes

[ivory torrent]

As long as it's not gta radio lmao

[safe zephyr]

I use my mp3

Yay

[spark rock]

It got boring all the songs repeat

[halcyon juniper]

GTA radio stations are straight logs ngl

[ivory torrent]

Okay so ehm

[spark rock]

I really need some one hang with me in gat

GTA

[halcyon juniper]

Nah fr, maybe a handful of decent songs not enough Indie / Alternative, Vaporwave if you ask me

[ivory torrent]

Lmao

Caps buddy

[halcyon juniper]

Forgot lol

[ivory torrent]

[halcyon juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/himym-how-i-met-your-mother-gif-7960395

[safe zephyr]

Not on the first time you tune in

The lab is by far the best

[spark rock]

I’m gonna play around in public lobbies

Let’s see how long takes me get to be blown up

Bet 6 mins

[safe zephyr]

14 minutes

[halcyon juniper]

The Lab is pretty decent but nothing to gawk at

[safe zephyr]

To each their own

[halcyon juniper]

Hear hear!

[bitter ruin]

Anyone here stuck on 49 signal jammers?

I looked online and checked all 50 locations, I’ve destroyed all of them but my count still shows 49

Can someone please guide me

[safe zephyr]

Check agan

Again*

[bitter ruin]

Did that twice

[glad roost]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[bitter ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-clapping-hands-sarcasm-sarcastic-clap-sarcastic-clapping-gif-15400979

[knotty steeple]

Guys let’s bring back green vs purple

[main brook]

there's a few that you can't lock-on with missiles and need to manually blow up

so if you only checked with lock-on that could be it

[main brook]

there's a reason they're putting Jammers on so many cars now 🙂
also stuff like Brickade 6x6 is great against explosives. it tanks around 15 or so rockets, don't remember exact amount

[velvet lodge]

❌

[knotty steeple]

Dude it would be so fun trust me

[velvet lodge]

it was fun in like 2020

whenever that was

[knotty steeple]

That’s why we need to run it back

[steep wyvern]

mentally unstable

[main brook]

GTA Roleplaying exists for that

FiveM and such

[barren bronze]

So for prize challenge, I could just race 1 person and it would count?

[velvet lodge]

yeah

[serene copper]

I'd rather deal with the average low IQ Mk2 griefer in GTAO, than to deal with the sad and miserable sacks of dicks on GTARP

There's a reason why 'GTARP trolling videos' are popular

[patent cove]

Bro just say your socially awkward it's fine

[velvet lodge]

lmao

[barren bronze]

👌

[serene copper]

You talking to me?

[velvet lodge]

is grass green type question

[tulip yacht]

No bro he's talking to me

[patent cove]

Do you see anyone else calling others sad miserable sacks of dicks for enjoying something you don't/can't?

[serene copper]

I mean when you deal with people power-tripping like there's no tomorrow. It's fair assumption to make

[patent cove]

Idk it sounds like you've never actually taken part in any RP and just watch clips of the trolling/power tripping.

[serene copper]

Also funny how you call me "socially awkward" when I'm pretty sure that 99.9% of these same people wouldn't be able to hold a conversation irl

[velvet lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/cold-emoji-gif-10221810

[serene copper]

I used to play GTARP I'd say 2-3 years ago

Not that i owe you an explanation anyways

Got sick of the people on there

[main brook]

ah yes, gotta love the arguement of "using number i pulled out of my ass with no statistics proving it" 🙂

[velvet lodge]

[serene copper]

Always mad about something something, so they take it out on you

[patent cove]

Quite the contrary, actually, I'd say practising RP and communicating with others can help you IRL

[thorny thicket]

Has anyone else (PC) had an issue where the ground sometimes turns invisible and buildings get low quality textures?

[main brook]

i dunno man, at least now you're the only mad one in this chat

[serene copper]

How?

[main brook]

are you on SSD? That happened a lot on PS4 if you don't upgrade it from HDD

[thorny thicket]

Yeah, it's on an SSD - a SATA one

[main brook]

no idea then

[thorny thicket]

Also got 16GB RAM, i5 7500 and NVIDIA 4060

Yet I play a more modern R* game, RDR2 and it somehow runs like butter. GTAV is over 10 years old now (IIRC)

[serene copper]

Explain how is getting butthurt and power-tripping helping you irl?

That's what I meant

[patent cove]

Context matters for that sort of stuff, most of the time it's because of people ruining the rp experience for everyone else

[thorny thicket]

Also thanks for your reply anyway 😄

[serene copper]

By saying that those people wouldn't be able to hold a convo irl

[patent cove]

Also can't assume everyone will be like that, not everyone plays a cop

[serene copper]

So how is me role-playing as a serial killer "ruining the experience"?

[main brook]

i wish i could help properly but could be a million different causes and don't wanna offer a wrong solution 😅

never had that issue on PC personally

[serene copper]

I'm not really assuming anything, because I've seen it

[velvet lodge]

you've encountered 99.9% of the RP community? 😳

[serene copper]

It has happened to me personally, or I've seen it happen

[serene copper]

Muthafucka, didn't you read what I said?

[velvet lodge]

i did actually

[thorny thicket]

Ah, that's okay man. I just appreciate a response

[velvet lodge]

"99.9%"

[serene copper]

99.9% of the people power-tripping

[velvet lodge]

that's not what it says there

[serene copper]

What do you think I meant when I said "those people"?

Don't act dumb

[velvet lodge]

have you encountered the entire 99.9% personally?

i highly doubt it

[serene copper]

Nope, and I assume neither has you

[main brook]

exactly

[velvet lodge]

i never made a claim with numbers regarding this

you did tho

[main brook]

which is why we don't pull numbers out of our asses

[serene copper]

Well you're speaking as if you know them

[velvet lodge]

i never said anything about any of the RP players?

i simply asked if you encountered all 99.9%

[near kite]

7500 with 4060?

[velvet lodge]

as you made quite a big claim

[serene copper]

I never made the claim regarding the entirety of the of the GTA RP community

[velvet lodge]

yeah not that .1% huh

[serene copper]

Just the ones I HAVE SEEN and I've interacted with

As I've said before, I used to play GTARP for 2-3 years, so I've seen a lot

[near kite]

Bro watching too much RP trolling videos that's it

[velvet lodge]

he's coming for you now

careful

[serene copper]

But because mfrs here can't read, or they don't want to. They make assumptions

[velvet lodge]

oh no!

people disagree with me!

[near kite]

Idc about RP, it's a game play however you enjoy it

[velvet lodge]

[serene copper]

I started watching them 1 year ago, after they started popping up in my recommended

[near kite]

[main brook]

we can read
you could have just said "i played for 2-3 years, from my experience players were not fun to play with" and called it there, would have been fair
but we're just mocking you for the 99.9% part because of how absurd it is

[serene copper]

Idc if people disagree with me or not. Personally, I enjoy interacting with people I DISAGREE with, more than people I agree with

[velvet lodge]

i haven't given this out in a while

but here

take the "pino didn't ask" award of the day

🏆

[near kite]

[main brook]

hell yea, well said

[velvet lodge]

return it tomorrow so i can give it out tomorrow

for the next winner

[near kite]

Bro loves to be in piece than peace

[serene copper]

Ironic

[grizzled egret]

for the hanger is it better to get 2 different materials from the most profitable group and get em both to 25, or get one material and get it to 50

[serene copper]

I believe so

But the hanger business is a waste of time imo

I only use it for staring aircraft

Or for having a spawn point in Fort Zancudo

[grizzled egret]

what is the most profitable in your opinion

[near kite]

Sourcing 2 different products is efficient for time saving

[grizzled egret]

thx

[serene copper]

Business wise I'd say bunker

Buy supplies and wait

[grizzled egret]

really?

[serene copper]

Cocaine and Meth after

[near kite]

If you are solo then yes
Hangar takes a lot of time for solo players

[serene copper]

And you can do heists while you wait for your businesses to fill up

[main brook]

if you have 4 players then it's fastest way to make money unless you do replay gleetch

[serene copper]

Yeah, but it still takes a lot of time

[quaint shoal]

in what game where the grind doesnt take time

[near kite]

Huh?

[serene copper]

Yeah, but why bother doing something that can take you more time

[grizzled egret]

how about cargo warehouses? is it better to just have a staff source it in the mean time?

[serene copper]

Rather than something that's more time efficient

[velvet lodge]

because not everyone likes the same content

[near kite]

Better than hangar for solo players

[main brook]

takes about 4 hours to fill 2 hangars
(do one hanagr source, swap orgs to second player because cooldown and source that)
back and forth
so in 4 hours, 2 players get 3.8 mill from hangar sell

[serene copper]

Cargo warehouse is much better

[velvet lodge]

cargo warehouses have 2 big ones and fill them up by cycling between them and send out your staff to source

[grizzled egret]

ok so for grinding, should I just fill up two warehouses, while I wait for my passive buisnesses?
if thats the case how long does it take for the bunker to produce with one paid resupply?

[obsidian pike]

Around 2 hours

[serene copper]

2 hours

[obsidian pike]

Ultimately up to you, hangar is a great business but the warehouses work 2

[serene copper]

They're great if you have time to spare

[obsidian pike]

You could also just source with the staff and do other shit, completely up to you

It would take 77 staff source missions to get it full

[grizzled egret]

I just wanna know whats the best way to make the most amount of money, besides doing the cayo hiest over and over again

[oblique girder]

What is everyone’s Cayo Perico solo method

[main brook]

staff is also only way to get special items other than random call from assistant
you can't get special items by doing actual source missions for cargo

[obsidian pike]

I mean probably the best is the hangar

[serene copper]

But if you wanna both save time and make money, then you can do bunker, coke and meth, then Cayo

[oblique girder]

The cluckin bell farm raid is ideal on Cayo cool-down

[grizzled egret]

can you only get the 500k once?

[velvet lodge]

nope

[obsidian pike]

^ that works 2 and then the Dr dre contract

[velvet lodge]

always 500k for the hos

[serene copper]

Yes

[velvet lodge]

t

[obsidian pike]

No it is always 500k

[serene copper]

Once per hour that is

[oblique girder]

Always 500k but Ofc you have a cooldown on the CBF (Cluckin’ Bell Farm) Heist

Which is roughly a 45 min cooldown

[main brook]

i mean if you want to you can only farm cluckin bell

it takes 40 minutes to complete so you do it, swap chars and do it again

cooldown over on first, do it on first

not really that good of a strat though imo

[grizzled egret]

I also have the acid lab, and night club, are they still as good?

[serene copper]

Assuming he has a second character

[obsidian pike]

Yeah night club and acid lab are the best 2 passive businesses

With the bunker being 3rd

[serene copper]

The nightclub is excellent if you have all businesses

[grizzled egret]

I do

atleast the best for it

[serene copper]

Then you can sell it when it's full

Occasionally, you can also collect the 250k every once in a while

[grizzled egret]

so the best way I am taking, is the cayo hiest, in the cooldown, do the clucking bell, in the mean time sell and resupply passive buisnesses, while source crates for your warehouses, or am I getting smth wrong?

[main brook]

also noone mentioned casino heist yet
you can reroll for Gold, do it with a random person and with 85% cut you get about 1.9 mill assuming you actually learned how to hack
you wanna get 2-hacks doors down to 14 seconds of hackin

can easily clear entire vault with 2 people if you have Avi and can hack

[obsidian pike]

The actual best way is doing the casino heist, Cayo perico and then either the contract or the clucking bell

[serene copper]

I didn't mention it, because I assume the person is gonna be playing solo

[obsidian pike]

And sell your 3 passive businesses in the meantime

[serene copper]

Fuck playing it with Randoms

[oblique girder]

Good luck

[grizzled egret]

contract is the agency thing right? I know very little about it

[velvet lodge]

yeah

[serene copper]

Yes

[obsidian pike]

Yeah it is the Dre contract

Pays just over 1 million dollars and it takes around 1:30h

[main brook]

Dre contract is okay but unskippable cutscenes are annoying.
but if you have Opressor and learn the strats you can beat it in about 1:05-1:10

usually takes me around 1:05 to beat

[oblique girder]

I only have about 1.4mil and im grinding

I keep getting bloody Tequila on the Cayo Perico heist

[obsidian pike]

That is bound to happen

[main brook]

yea tequila is a punish for grinding. you never get tequilla if you wait 72 hours irl before doing it again

[grizzled egret]

alr I'll grind for the kosotka, agency, and the arcade, appreciate all the help

[serene copper]

❤️

[oblique girder]

So if I just ignore Cayo for a few days I’d get either bearer bonds, Ruby necklace or diamond?

[main brook]

yea

[oblique girder]

I don’t have GTA+ so I don’t have that boosted chance of getting the panther

[main brook]

but you can't even pay for hard mode

[oblique girder]

Damn

[velvet lodge]

gta+ doesn't have a boosted % on panther

[main brook]

like, if you pay for hard mode, even if you want 72 hours after that you can still get tequila

which sucks

[oblique girder]

my friend told me that ig he lied lol

[velvet lodge]

the only benefit gta+ has for businesses is the acid lab

[oblique girder]

Damn

[velvet lodge]

if you got gta+ you fill the entire acid lab within 2 hours

[serene copper]

Let's grief your friend for lying

[velvet lodge]

and 1.5 hours if you boost production

[main brook]

ngl, making money is so easy in this game, to where the only in-game GTA+ benefit i consider being okay is exclusive clothing

[serene copper]

Facts

[oblique girder]

XD

[serene copper]

Grinding is so ez to the point I do it if my friends need money

Otherwise I do other things

[main brook]

yea i only grind awards and tier 4 challenges, not even money

and i'm currently sitting at 70 mill

[serene copper]

Like fighting others, or car meets

[serene copper]

I used to have 220mil

Then I told Rockstar they were modded, so they took them (they were legit)

[thorny thicket]

Yeah, that's right

[uneven basalt]

Hey y’all 👋

[serene copper]

Then I got to 45mil and I told them they were given to me by a modder so they took them away

I'm now currently sitting at 5-6mil

[main brook]

that's a risky move tbh

they could have fully reset character

instead of money wipe

[serene copper]

I'm suffering from success bruh

[oblique girder]

This year I’m setting my goal to $10mil if it’s possible

[velvet lodge]

10 mil for the entire year?

[oblique girder]

If it’s too much I’m making myself suffer haha

[velvet lodge]

id say too little

[oblique girder]

Lol

[serene copper]

I've set myself I personal goal to reach rank 1000 before GTA 6 is released

[oblique girder]

Or if I reached it like mid year i might try to get to $20mil or $25mil

[velvet lodge]

2 days worth of playing time

[oblique girder]

Pfft

[main brook]

...you can get that afk even
in 1 week

[oblique girder]

Heheh

[thorny thicket]

Hangar is better for solo players than the MC businesses

[main brook]

by just rubbering banding controller and filling nightclub

[thorny thicket]

I am never doing MC again if my life depends on it, Bunker is the same but I am still filling it for research

[thorny thicket]

I'm gonna try get all of the Steam achievements

I have more time since it's not coming to PC day one though

[oblique girder]

Apparently that can cause stick drift but idk if it can bc it’s a part inside the controller that wears

[main brook]

yea MC businesses i hate with a passion but i still need to sell 25 mill of product for tier 4
so i'm still doing Coke lockup only until i get that

[velvet lodge]

honestly faster if you sell the rest too

[thorny thicket]

For tier four what?

[velvet lodge]

it's a current gen console thing

dw

[main brook]

nah because then i can't manip the stash houses

[thorny thicket]

Oh right, R* pretending PC isn't current gen, I forgot

[velvet lodge]

fair

i personally didnt mind the amount i needed in sales

[main brook]

i woul do all of them if they go 2x money though

[velvet lodge]

the 50 contracts were just boring

praying R* makes ceo cargo 2x thursday as a nice birthday present for me

[thorny thicket]

What is this tier thing though? It's apparently coming to PC (eventually) so I'm interested in what is going on

[main brook]

it's basically in-game achievements

[velvet lodge]

we basically have challenges that give rewards

4 tiers

[thorny thicket]

For you 🤞

[velvet lodge]

each giving different rewards

none of them are genuinely worth it

[thorny thicket]

Oh like dailies?

[velvet lodge]

except the contract dlc

[main brook]

more like awards

[velvet lodge]

since we can own lamar's drug van

[thorny thicket]

Don't awards just give RP?

[main brook]

and so do dailies

RP and some cash

but the objectives are similar to what awards have

[main brook]

some have delisted cars

like After Hours tier 4 is Stafford

so that's something

[thorny thicket]

Wait, is there a Lamar business?

[velvet lodge]

as someone who's played since 2013 i couldnt care less i own them

[velvet lodge]

no from the contract dlc

lamar's van made out of weed

[main brook]

lol fair

[velvet lodge]

the LD organics van

[thorny thicket]

Oh I just came back last month from a long break

Auto Shop was the last update I played so I clearly have much to catch up on

[near kite]

And what resolution are you playing at?

[thorny thicket]

I did just buy the Garment Factory a week ago and that has been pretty great, especially the MCT on the Terrobyte

[thorny thicket]

1440p

I used to have a shitty GPU so it's been nice being able to have some good visuals I couldn't before

[main brook]

RTX 4060 can do 1440p in this game? neat

i had RTX 3060 before and it struggled a little bit
i now have RTX 4080 though

[thorny thicket]

I've been playing 1440p in most of my games except for Cyberpunk

But that game eats PCs for breakfast

RDR2 in 1440p is amazing

[near kite]

Damn that's some serious hardware mismatch imo

[main brook]

i mean it's clearly old rig with new GPU

like he said

[tender flare]

[thorny thicket]

If I could just magic money into my wallet I’d get a new PC

My plan was to buy a new GPU then take it to a new computer at the end of this year

[main brook]

yea 7th gen is still acceptable
though it doesn't even support win11 so that's awkward

[thorny thicket]

Oh IKR, bloody MS

[tender flare]

7th gen is NOT acceptable

[main brook]

for 11 year old game? yes it is

obv not for something like Cyberpunk ray traced but it's fine for a lot of things

[toxic fractal]

My gta5 runs on i3 and 1080ti

[thorny thicket]

Dude, GTA V is over a decade old

[tender flare]

my 13400 reaches 90% utilization in gta

the game eats cpu for breakfast

[toxic fractal]

My pc is older than gta 5 and runs it

[thorny thicket]

And doubly so, if it has no issues for RDR2, I damn well expect no issues for GTA V

[near kite]

The issue is coming from your CPU

[main brook]

i have Ryzen 7800X3D and it also has like high cpu utilization

that does not mean old cpu can't run it

[thorny thicket]

If the CPU is the problem how did people play this game when it first came out?

The game predates the CPU I’m using

[tender flare]

The problem is the combo with ur new gpu

[thorny thicket]

What does that mean?

[tender flare]

ur cpu has a bottleneck towards the gpu u have

[main brook]

and?

[thorny thicket]

Yeah, so I won’t get the best performance I can out of the card

[main brook]

they prolly still get 60fps 1440p

[thorny thicket]

I expected that to be the case

[main brook]

i would imagine at least

[thorny thicket]

I could even deal with low frames if the ground didn’t literally disappear beneath me, that’s crazy for such an old game

[toxic fractal]

I am using i3 and 1080ti and run gta5 on normal settings and works fine

Just check if everything is as it should be

[vernal hawk]

Yo where do I go to find people to play with

[oblique girder]

Go to one of the channels in ‘PS5 looking for group’

[thorny thicket]

Yeah that’s what I’d expect

I’ll try play with 1080p and see if there’s any other settings I can reduce

But if this game really can’t handle i5 7500 that says more about R* than anything

[main brook]

i ran this game on i7 4770K and GTX 660 11 years ago

it's really not a hardware problem

well not 11 years ago

i guess 9

whenever PC port came out

[near kite]

[thorny thicket]

That and I’ve been playing much more demanding games on my PC

Like RDR2 and Cyberpunk

[main brook]

that's irrelevant

even when you look at something like GTA IV

that game just runs like crap in general
even on RTX 4080 i can't get stable performance

at 4K that is

[thorny thicket]

Maybe that was the 4K? It ran pretty stable on my last save

[main brook]

i'm having some frametime issues even with using dxvk

it's stable 120fps but i'm getting constant ticks of frametime offsets that i can't get rid of

[thorny thicket]

Damn that sucks

I just had mine limited to 60FPS because the bikes turn to ice skates on higher FPS

For some damn reason

[main brook]

yea for bikes i limit to 60 as well 😄

i just use a Rivatuner hotkey to limit it

[thorny thicket]

Ooh that’s clever, enjoying 120 normally and 60 when it must

[main brook]

oh yea that reminds me there's MC rewards for completing a certain amount of tier 4 rewards

you get Franklin, Claude, Niko outfits

but sad that they don't look too good

[velvet lodge]

i only liked trevor's tbh

[thorny thicket]

Damn, that’s crazy locking those to console

IDK why R* hates PC so much

[main brook]

i play as a female character

so as you can imagine

they all look awful

[main brook]

if they truly liked consoles they would let us use keyboard and mouse

i still haven't completed all bunker shooting range challenges

free aim on controller is rough

[thorny thicket]

Please, they refuse to release every game on day one and they won’t even give PC E&E despite PC (just spec wise I mean) outclassing console hardware

They’re just being assholes at this point

[main brook]

yea it's a corpa move

to sell GTA+

[thorny thicket]

Not to mention that they let hackers fester on GTAO and RDO in such a state that they may as well collect all of their customers IPs and post them on Facebook

[main brook]

scummy but works from their end

[thorny thicket]

No attempt to protect their player base at all

[thorny thicket]

How so? Why would I buy GTA+ when I don’t even have E&E?

[main brook]

yea that's what i mean
keep E&E with GTA+ on a platform without modders to sell more
if they released all that content to PC it would be modded in already

so it's just asshole way to further wall all of this behind paywall

[thorny thicket]

No no no

The solution is to end the hacking

[main brook]

well yes obviously

but that's expensive

[thorny thicket]

Most games have little to no cheating issues, they just don’t care

[thorny thicket]

That’s their fault for using P2P servers

If hacking was just god mode and cages then sure

But no, hacking is open IP, being able to find users real locations

R* is responsible for shady shit that’s gone into real life, hackers have committed the IRL crime of DDoSing through their game

[main brook]

well i have terrible news for you

some leaks said GTA VI might also be P2P

[thorny thicket]

Also with the amount of money they have (and Take2), they can afford to protect their users

[main brook]

i really hope that's not the case but i'm not optimistic

[thorny thicket]

God are they fucking dumb?

GTA IV, GTA V and RDO - they still cannot learn the lesson

[velvet lodge]

its leaks

nothing official

[main brook]

yea it's not confirmed or anything

[thorny thicket]

I hope it ends up being false

[main brook]

same

we all hope that

[thorny thicket]

They need real servers they can patrol

I play GTAO in invite because it’s not worth having my IP out there

Just bring in IRL mates and that’s it

[main brook]

i mean you can use a vpn

[thorny thicket]

Gotta pay for the privilege

Plus when I’m already having issues the last thing I need is lag on top of that

[main brook]

ah fair. i pay for it so i can watch movies and tv shows that are region-locked so i have it anyway but yea, paying just because of this game is not worth it

[thorny thicket]

Ah I don’t use Netflix and shit so never had that issue

[near kite]

Those games are GPU intensive and GTA is CPU intensive that's why you are facing issues only with GTA

[thorny ocean]

@velvet lodge did you get a email from rockstar for a survey you get free 500k if you do it?

[velvet lodge]

nope

[main brook]

?

[barren bronze]

Does owning a Longfin skip the heist prep for Cayo Perico?

[main brook]

pier to pier servers

[velvet lodge]

nope

[main brook]

you can own a Phantom Wedge though to skip stealing a truck

[barren bronze]

Got it👍🏽

[main brook]

and since phantom wedge is your personal vehicle you can even job warp the longfin straight to the docks immediately after you hook it if you want

but job warping nowadays is jank

[velvet lodge]

rip easy job warp

[main brook]

[velvet lodge]

idk if you've replied or read your thread recently as i cannot see it anymore myself for some reason but did you still need help with those awards?

[main brook]

ah, i removed the thread because people already helped me

[velvet lodge]

okay sweet

[main brook]

thanks anyway though

[velvet lodge]

no worries

did you already have 4 players for your doomsday cmm?

[main brook]

didn't do it yet but i have a team of friends i will do it with

[velvet lodge]

[main brook]

if you find other people i can be 4th though if you want 😅

there's no way my friends would want to do that twice though

[near kite]

I can help, just buy a PC

[velvet lodge]

the only reason im trynna do 4 cmm for doomsday is for my final trophy

[near kite]

[main brook]

it's also just so boring unless you have someone to shittalk to in voice chat

like doing Escort ULP with no background stuff is just pain

[velvet lodge]

yup

[near kite]

Imagine someone who did all of them without being in a voice chat

[unborn bronze]

cough

[main brook]

i've done like 6x Act 1 runs with randoms with no voice chat while listening to podcasts

just to grind the "15 acts as leader" tier 4 challenge

but act 1 is not bad at all

act 3 is where to slow nonsense is

Escort ULP and Air Defenses

[near kite]

Air defence?

Really?

[main brook]

the Volatol mission

where you destroy 11 turrets

[near kite]

That takes 10 minutes at most

[near kite]

10

[main brook]

is it only 10 minutes?

feels like 25 because there's nothing happening lol

but it's just overall a very boring mission

agent 14 is the only one that's actually cool

[near kite]

I did it in one round of mount chiliad

[main brook]

but even that one has a random akula fly at the end for no reason

[ivory torrent]

@velvet lodge

Hru

[velvet lodge]

im good hbu

[ivory torrent]

Good

Oh shit this isn't gorilla chat

[velvet lodge]

thank god

[near kite]

Go back to gorilla chat

[ivory torrent]

Fine

[near kite]

[ivory torrent]

Anyways so, wyd on GTA today

[velvet lodge]

helping someone with their doomsday tier 4 thingy

after that im going back to PVZ

[ivory torrent]

Cool

[velvet lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-gta-online-grand-theft-auto-yeti-grand-theft-auto-5-gif-5175685631348519785

[fading plume]

Hi guys

[velvet lodge]

hello

[fading plume]

Need some suggestions to make mils

New to GTAO

[velvet lodge]

human trafficking

ah

gtao

[fading plume]

Playing like 3weeks

[fading plume]

GTA online 🥲

[fading plume]

Could work but I don’t have any friends

[main brook]

nightclub, acid lab and get collectibles
after that you're honestly pretty free to do whatever's the most fun
you can really get by with just acid lab alone until you clear all 11 years worth of content the first time

[fading plume]

Got the nightclub got the acid lab got all rdr collectibles

[main brook]

then you can really just pick whatever you feel like will be most fun

[fading plume]

But I’m getting only 350k max per sale mission

[main brook]

should be 560K or so in public session

[fading plume]

I don’t have friends so I don’t take the risk of running into grifers

[fading plume]

So should I grind the acid lab or the Cayo perico?

[main brook]

the risk is worth it tbh
most of the time you can still defend yourself a little bit and the extra 50% money is huge
getting full griefed once in every 4 sales is still more money than doing invite only

[fading plume]

Oky I’ll try it out tomorrow

Do u play though?

[fallow mural]

Hey @fading plume, These are the PC LFG channels.
#💻〢cayo-lfg-pc
#💻〢casino-lfg-pc
#💻〢doomsday-lfg-pc
#💻〢apartment-lfg-heist-pc
#💻〢businesses-lfg-pc
#💻〢other-lfg-pc
#☝lfg-info

[ivory torrent]

There

That's to find some potential buddies

[main brook]

you can grind cayo perico but for a new account i personally think it's meh
you need a second person to get gold, otherwise you're barely getting a million each run
you need a sparrow with missiles to grind it fast, it's just kinda meh

[ivory torrent]

Cayo perico 4y ago:

[fading plume]

I got the sparrow

[main brook]

yea like, Cayo perico is STILL at least top 3 when you have everything but buying all of it on new account is weird

[fading plume]

Got the oppresor mk2 today

Now I’m confused what to buy now

[main brook]

if you already got opressor mk2 then i would say Casino Heist and Hangar

[ivory torrent]

Casino requires a 2nd player tho

[main brook]

both of those are better than cayo but without opressor takes too long

[near kite]

Pino exposing his source of income

[main brook]

only for finale

which they can find here

[ivory torrent]

Yeah, which is the big payday

[fading plume]

They legit cuz its look like the scam ads 🥲😅

[ivory torrent]

Well, they ain't nw

[fading plume]

Aight thanks bro ill try to make some friends

[velvet lodge]

nuh uh

[ivory torrent]

Gl on your journey

[fading plume]

Yea thinking of getting hangar and other mc business

[fading plume]

So GTA doesn’t have cross play right?

[main brook]

hangar is great, the only issue with it is that the mission variety is not great

so it's raw grind

can get boring but pay is good

[ivory torrent]

Nope

[fading plume]

It’s like double or nothing

[main brook]

Hangar is actually even better after the newest update since you get Master Control Terminal in terrorbyte now

So you can launch land source from it

Before terrorbyte could only do air source and those are awful

[near kite]

Why do you need terrorbyte when you have to go to your hangar to deliver the crate anyway?

[main brook]

Because cooldowns

I do crate source, after completing do something else like a 4x top range car sell

Spawn terrobyte, launch source

Right from where sell ended

If you could source immediately after sourcing is done then yea it would be useless because you’re already in hangar

But sadly not the case

[toxic fractal]

Also, I was this guy when I started, you will get burned out very very fast

When same thing is your income and do it 2 3 times per day you will get bored

[main brook]

Yea i personally think hyper focusing on cayo for a new account is not a great playing experience

There’s 11 years of content to do

[toxic fractal]

Yeah

[oblique girder]

What’s better for grinding, Hangar or Cluckin?

[toxic fractal]

Some heist, not paying much but now even with factory raid you get 500k

And it's kunda fun

[toxic fractal]

Take it slow, ain't grind or tournament, do it slowly and have fun

You get ceo office, bunker and mc business for free, you can grind them and have a nice income and have fun

Taking all money into kosatka and sparrow and just doing that ain't good

[main brook]

They’re actually not free on E&E

[toxic fractal]

Then rip

[main brook]

Instead of game giving you businesses for free you just start the game with 4 mill

[toxic fractal]

So first dose, get acid lab and cluckin raid

[thorny ocean]

First dose and last dose cause you get 2 million plus a free car

[tall oyster]

why would you bother with all that tho?

[ivory torrent]

For the fun

[tall oyster]

even so with these games your very first steps is to gain money so you can buy the gear to have fun

[tall oyster]

and quite honestly a lot of that stuff is just boring and semi-pointless

[ivory torrent]

Tbf

I enjoy doomsday like a lot

[tall oyster]

if you want story, play story mode
its made much better

[tall oyster]

yeah you can recommend that, but not like follow gtao with date of releases lol

[ivory torrent]

Yeah fair lmao

[tall oyster]

11 yrs... holy frick

[velvet lodge]

no one likes doomsday

not you

not me

not a singular soul

[ivory torrent]

I do

[velvet lodge]

no

even you dont

[ivory torrent]

I have 2/3 doomsday CMM's

Yes I like it

[velvet lodge]

❌

[near kite]

Ay I exist 😺

[unborn bronze]

Bounty Hunting.

[versed valley]

I did like it, actually, I enjoyed it both times I did it

[velvet lodge]

you would've gotten the "pino didnt ask" award if i hadn't given it out today

what a shame

[versed valley]

and who asked you about it?

[velvet lodge]

dawg just shut the fuck up before you get offended again

[versed valley]

scoop: sunlight doesn't shine out of your ass

you've been very mean to me in the last few days, chill the fuck up, dude

are you OK? what's going on?

[lofty harbor]

Sup guys, I recently sold my Xbox and got a PC, lost my account I had for over 5 years on level 400, created a new one and now on level 30, since I can’t play with any of my previous gta friends cause there’s no cross platform , I’m looking for people to play with, if anyone’s interested lmk, thanks gang

PS: I connected my controller so my targeting mode is Aim Assist on

[fallow mural]

Hey @lofty harbor, These are the PC LFG channels.
#💻〢cayo-lfg-pc
#💻〢casino-lfg-pc
#💻〢doomsday-lfg-pc
#💻〢apartment-lfg-heist-pc
#💻〢businesses-lfg-pc
#💻〢other-lfg-pc
#☝lfg-info

[sand pond]

What is the best agency?

Hawick Or Vespucci?

[versed valley]

check your DMs

[modest shell]

Tbh my fav is little Seoul

Its location is convenient and looks the best to me

[lofty harbor]

Ye Seoul is closest to city

Guys is there no Haus special vehicles on PC? No HSW?

[tall oyster]

nope

[lofty harbor]

Mad

[tall oyster]

supposedly we'll get it this year tho

[modest shell]

Hopefully with the next update

They are having a meeting I don’t remember when but it’s soon and it’s either we’ll get gta6 details or ENE on pc

[high pollen]

Can you spawn your kurama

?

[modest shell]

Yes

[high pollen]

I lost myline

You know how

Or why

[modest shell]

Ur line? Wdym?

[high pollen]

I lost mine

I had it before and suddenly I can't spawn it

[tall oyster]

it probably got destroyed or impounded
call mors mutual insurance

[near kite]

@ivory torrent can I get 2x CMM role?

[mental anchor]

can some1 play some gta 5 with me n my friend, wanna play cayo but dont have kosatka

[vital torrent]

/lfg

[mental anchor]

what

[near kite]

#💻〢cayo-lfg-pc

Btw why do you need to play cayo

[mental anchor]

i need money

new to gta but good at the game

[modest shell]

In yalls opinion what drift car should I get

I was thinking the ZR350 cuz I like the rx7 irl

[mental anchor]

futo gtx, trust

[modest shell]

I mean also love the AE irl

I’m gonna turn my autoshop into basically tuner cars

[serene copper]

They don't really make that much of a difference imo

Just get one you like visually

[modest shell]

I mean I’ll eventually get them all

Make some for drift and some for races

Gotta put tuners in auto all Imani tech in agency and all supers in the office

[patent cove]

I feel there is some differences but i've never been able to find a middle ground track to test them all thoroughly

[high pollen]

@tall oyster apparently you cant see the cars parked (not stored )inside nightclub. And you can't call it also.

[modest shell]

I think it all comes down to car power and the way it handles

[near kite]

Finally after 377 kilometres my favourite bike changed

[near kite]

Parked but not stored? Are you smoking weed or something?

[silver plinth]

They might be

[pastel laurel]

Is it worth buying facility

Like
What's benefits

[silver plinth]

Heist

Avenger

Orb Cannon too

[pastel laurel]

I don't want the orb cannon

[tall oyster]

I forgot about orb cannon
I may start using it for funsies lol

[pastel laurel]

By the way
Is it worth buying the avenger or moc is better?

And I'm thinking to buy weaponzied tempa

[silver plinth]

I think the Avenger is more expensive

[near kite]

If you are looking to customise some vehicles then the MOC

[pastel laurel]

Ok

By the way
Should have buy other two MC businesses for the nightclub?

[silver plinth]

Which ones do you have

[near kite]

Weed and forgery?

[main brook]

Hawick is faster for Recover Valuables contract and also for speedrunning Dre contract
So that makes it best

[near kite]

[smoky nymph]

I GOT A Question

I see that all the crews are PS4 and ps5 ??

What pc users do ?

[near kite]

They use lfg channels

[smoky nymph]

Thanks

[near kite]

Most of the PC players play a lot more than an average console player so it's hard to keep up with a crew

[smoky nymph]

PC players play more ?

really ?

[near kite]

Just look around for a few days, you'll find a lot more PC players than console players

[tall oyster]

probably just more pc players use discord too

[smoky nymph]

OK, I used to have a 150 level acocunt on Ps4 but now Im starting again on PC and aa lot changed in only 3 years

Im trying to join some people on heist and buisiness to make my money back

[near kite]

Wait until you realise every Xbox player uses discord

[smoky nymph]

JAJAJA well its leagal to have a console and a PC

jajaja

[near kite]

Ofc

[smoky nymph]

ok im spanming the chucking bell thing , got 2 millons

what should I do first the lab ?

as pasive business I mean

[near kite]

Nightclubs are on sale probably get it before the next weekly update

[smoky nymph]

upaaaa

how much Time do I have

[tall oyster]

ngl honestly I wouldn't know
just thought consoles all use their headsets etc

[near kite]

About one and half day

[smoky nymph]

How much do I need for the one that is in fron of WTF building ?

how much is it ? Do you know ? The good one ?

[near kite]

It'll cost you about one mil

[smoky nymph]

GREAT

So its on promotion ? I jut go into the phone ?

[near kite]

Yes

[smoky nymph]

Thanks man you have been amazing help

[near kite]

[toxic fractal]

Yes but you want to use discount to fully upgrade it

5 levels of storage, around ~1.2m

Upgrades to make more money

[smoky nymph]

thats for me ?

[toxic fractal]

Yes

[smoky nymph]

ufff

[toxic fractal]

If you buying nightclub

[smoky nymph]

the upgrades are in discount ?

[toxic fractal]

Yes

[main brook]

I mean i play on console but all my expensive mic setup is still on pc end
And when i stream i use capture card with obs rather than using console for that as well

[smoky nymph]

how much do I need fo all

I got 2 mil

[toxic fractal]

I don't exactly know but to fully upgrade it, 2 mil is not enough

[smoky nymph]

how I use discord for it ? sorry for all the questions

ufff

what Do I choose first ?

[toxic fractal]

What you mean

Choose first foe what

[smoky nymph]

so I wont have all money

what do I upgrade first ?

[toxic fractal]

Buy nightclub first and then do heists

Till you have enough money

[smoky nymph]

Best nightclub is the one in front of WTF Building righte ?

chuking bell heist ?

[toxic fractal]

Don't know tbh, they don't rly mind

Location

See where you got most properties

[smoky nymph]

city center

ok Thanks

[tall oyster]

doesn't ps have its own "discord"

[smoky nymph]

so any night clkub is the same ?

[main brook]

It does but why would i use it when i can just have discord open on second monitor

[tall oyster]

well I think you're unique tho
the average player will not have a use for obs etc

literally kids who got a console for christmas

[main brook]

Kids sure but i try to only play with adults

[tall oyster]

my point was still, and I'm not saying I'm right
that we may see more pc players here in discord cos you would naturally use discord on pc

there could be a hundred playing gta right now on ps5 who don't use discord

and also, does five m count? 😄

[silver plinth]

Are the custom weapon loadouts worth using?

[velvet lodge]

in my opinion yeah

you can just have your fav weapons there

and get rid of the others

[silver plinth]

Is there any guides that shows the best weapons to have?

[velvet lodge]

probably

[wintry heron]

Does anyone want to play the diamond casion heist

I dont have an arcade

[fallow mural]

Hey @wintry heron, These are the Xbox LFG channels.
#🎮〢cayo-lfg-xbox
#🎮〢casino-lfg-xbox
#🎮〢doomsday-lfg-xbox
#🎮〢apartment-heist-lfg-xbox
#🎮〢businesses-lfg-xbox
#🎮〢other-lfg-xbox
#🎮〢expanded-n-enhanced-lfg-xbox
#1191067130720944208
#1191066972595687565
#1015416702118416414

[young terrace]

Collectible Scanner is showing a ping at Cypress Flats AmmuNation, anyone know? The little alley to the left specifically

[split oriole]

OK I cambe back with my phone

Im martin

I lost the plot

jaja

[versed valley]

https://tenor.com/view/boris-the-animal-men-in-black-gif-12368526

jajajajajaja

[young terrace]

Nevermind

[split oriole]

ok any tips of wht upgrade to buy first on the nite club ?

[young terrace]

Warehouse Storage space

[split oriole]

all of it ?

[young terrace]

Whatever you can get

[static sentinel]

Bro who tf designed the submarine parts strangers and freaks mission

Why the fuck does that mission make you do a zigzag

[silver plinth]

casion

[fickle geode]

It’s peak mission fytb

[fickle geode]

casion

[pastel laurel]

Yes

[mystic bobcat]

Any way to make money restarting after 4 yr

[ivory torrent]

TGG's vids can probably help

Rags to riches

[static sentinel]

How?

Its exteremly tedious

[tender flare]

gta is extremely tedious

[young terrace]

What's the website for the collectible map?

[silver plinth]

Gtaweb

[ivory torrent]

Which is what I like

[safe zephyr]

Crazy

[ivory torrent]

Why

[safe zephyr]

When does somebody appreciate something tedious

[ivory torrent]

Idk but I certainly do

[safe zephyr]

To each their own

[ivory torrent]

Ofc

[tall oyster]

tedious can be fine
grinding money for the sake of grinding money in this game is all tedious

[ivory torrent]

Which is what I do lmao

Idm

[mystic bobcat]

Appreciate it

[grizzled egret]

what kosotka upgrade is worth it?

[safe zephyr]

None

[ivory torrent]

Sparrow

Other than that, nothing

[grizzled egret]

and the sparrow, if I have the opressor mk2 is it still worth?

[ivory torrent]

yeah coz u can park it inside ur kosatka during preps too

[grizzled egret]

alr

[ivory torrent]

• you can spawn it in freemode instantly, right next to you

For in case your Mk2 isn't available

[grizzled egret]

and what about the arcade?

[ivory torrent]

If you have a friend that is

Since the heist requires 2 people

[grizzled egret]

oh I see

[ivory torrent]

Yep

So if you're solo, I wouldn't bother yet until you made some friends

[tall oyster]

"don't buy the arcade, unless you have friends"
🤭

[ivory torrent]

The passive income isn't worth it

[tall oyster]

for sure

[ivory torrent]

• the MCT is now also found in the terrorbyte

But

The casino heist is just fun

[versed valley]

again that weird word...

[tall oyster]

I have yet to do it, cos I ain't got no friends 😄

[grizzled egret]

and how good is the cayo and agency contract for solo

[unique gate]

What makes the most money in cayo heist for secondary targets

[versed valley]

coke

[pastel laurel]

I bought the facility boys

[tall oyster]

oof

[versed valley]

I mean, gold, but only if you have someone else with you

for solo is coke, then painting, then weed, then cash

[pastel laurel]

2.7 m

[ivory torrent]

I believe a full bag of weed is worth more than 2 paintings

But if you got 2 office paints then why not

[thorny ocean]

The safe worth it it pino irl income lmao 🤣

[silver plinth]

[ivory torrent]

[ivory torrent]

No point anymore lmao

[versed valley]

you can believe whatever you want, but R* won't agree with you

[ivory torrent]

Ah well

Not like it's an astronomical difference

[versed valley]

also, they're not consistent... in Cayo, two stashes of coke worth around 400K, but in Cluckin' bell, you take 8 stashes and it worth 500K

perhaps because el rubio coke is of higher quality?

[tall oyster]

was about to say that, SA shit

[ivory torrent]

Oh well

Money is money

At least 500K & I'm happy

[tall oyster]

lol

[ivory torrent]

Perhaps I'm just being a greedy ass but I like money

[tall oyster]

I have a cluckin bell finale set up I haven't completed since snow 😄

[ivory torrent]

Why tho

It's so easy

[tall oyster]

haven't been on much lately

[velvet lodge]

its been like 6 hours and im only at 1.2 mil on my new acc

[ivory torrent]

Fair lmao

[velvet lodge]

this shit slow asf

[ivory torrent]

[tall oyster]

cluckin?

[ivory torrent]

Everything

He started on a brand new account

I'm sure he regrets that deeply

[tall oyster]

I think it would be fun

wait
could

[velvet lodge]

tbf i havent played 1 session for this long in a while

the cooldown is killing me

i do a fooligan job in between

all i can do atp

[tall oyster]

true

[ivory torrent]

It was your choice

[oblique girder]

How do you go afk in game without it kicking you? (I don’t have any bands to band my joystick)

[velvet lodge]

i got bored of the game

[versed valley]

the cab trick works for me

[ivory torrent]

Open your interaction menu, and lay a heavy object on your D pad down or up, works for me

[oblique girder]

Noted

[oblique girder]

Noted

[silver plinth]

Taxi go brrr

[silver plinth]

I’m demotivated doing Dr Dre 😔

[ivory torrent]

@velvet lodge Ok so

[velvet lodge]

im js trynna get some money for a NC while theyre still on sale for this acc

[velvet lodge]

so

[ivory torrent]

Check gta media

[tall oyster]

best route to take right now really

[silver plinth]

I’m going back to selling in private sessions, my anxiety can’t take public sessions

[versed valley]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-weapon-old-muy-viejo-murtaugh-danny-glover-gif-18616834

[thorny ocean]

Burn out?

[silver plinth]

I’m getting there

[versed valley]

feel ya bro

[velvet lodge]

nah

just the fact my main owns everything

[silver plinth]

Bazinga

[grizzled egret]

how do you counter a toreador? my god is it annoying, there is this one griefer who is only level 26 and killing everyone trying to grind, bro has nothing better to do than spend money on this game

[versed valley]

do you have sniper, railgun?

[novel ravine]

Sounds like skill issue to me

[grizzled egret]

ye

[versed valley]

sniper with explosives is great

but you need to snipe good

[grizzled egret]

like hit the car or the player?

[versed valley]

learn to anticipate their move and shoot ahead

sniper with explosives, just shoot the car

[grizzled egret]

alr

I will keep this in mind

[pale sky]

flare 👍

[versed valley]

or stickies, that's the best way to take down one of those flying fuckers

[grizzled egret]

why do they have infinite missiles?

[silver plinth]

Cause rockstar loves to ruin GTA 5 Online

[pastel laurel]

Do I need two people for preparation

[velvet lodge]

for what

[pastel laurel]

Doomsday heist

[velvet lodge]

the freemode stuff you can do solo

the heists and the setups you need at least 1 for

[pastel laurel]

Ok

Time get the akula

[tall oyster]

you can get akula without that

[pastel laurel]

Bro
How players can control helicopters on controller

It's so wobbly

How does people manage to do the spray with guns

[pastel laurel]

@tall oyster do I need to do one preparation

For the set up

[near kite]

What spray?

[modest shell]

wtf happened did the servers die for like a min

Then got back on???

I was at the last bit of the cluckin bell

[pastel laurel]

Like spray in straight line
Shot without missing
Something like that

Or they only do it with explosive cannons

[near kite]

Takes a little practice to master it but idk why someone would like to learn this

Unless you are a PvP player

[pastel laurel]

For free mod

@near kite question
Does the setup for doomsday take two people?

[near kite]

Yes, all setups and finales require a minimum of 2 players

Prep missions can be done solo or be paid to skip.

[pastel laurel]

Shit