🚔┃gta-discussion

[little cairn]

Yes it's the best bank for buck

[clever girder]

Do i have to sit through the cutscene again?

[little cairn]

I don't remember

[clever girder]

Fair enough

[little cairn]

I have a weird thing I have the chernobog on discount but the raiju

[wintry heron]

aand he got banned i think

[hardy fox]

yo does the akula or the raiju stealth mode stop homing missiles?

[clever girder]

Nah I don't think so

[hardy fox]

cheers

[warm rose]

Nah bro, your best bet for stopping homing missiles is an imani tech vehicle with the lock on jammer or one of Charlie's upgrades on the Avenger (but the missle jammer can only be activated with auto-pilot).

[warm rose]

This would be 🔥 though

But too overpowered. Stealth and lock-on jammer ☠️

[hardy fox]

oh yeah i forgot about imani. Im returning so a lot of stuff is a bit new

[hardy fox]

tbf 😭

[warm rose]

That would be crazy 😅 omg

[hardy fox]

its already a pretty good plane, do you think it'll get nerfed?

cuz idrk myself

[prisma tapir]

Hello

I accidentally removed my pc role how can I select again?

[warm rose]

Considering how rockstar is, it is likely

[hardy fox]

theres a roles tab at the top

[hardy fox]

yeah true

[prisma tapir]

Thanks I just joined

Appreciate it

[sour spear]

Is the Streamer 216 worth it

[prisma tapir]

Relatively slow

[hardy fox]

how much would dr dre pay for 2 people

[warm rose]

The helpers get 50k each the person setting up gets a mil

[hardy fox]

thank you

[keen breach]

Guys is it just me or is GTAO more hectic than usual?

[warm rose]

🫡

[warm rose]

In terms of player count?

[keen breach]

In terms of people griefing 😂

My lobby’s have been like WWZ

[warm rose]

I think it is all hand in hand. more people are on, so more people are griefing. I have been moving around with a toreador more than usual though…👀

[warm rose]

This may explain the questionable consecutive weeks of "bonuses" and rewards.When the player count is high, rockstar go missing.

[fickle geode]

I got my bunker stock full 500k value do I need 2 or 3 players to sell all them?

[south cobalt]

Yes

3 minimum

You can do 3

2*

But 3 is safe

[fickle geode]

Ight

[south cobalt]

And obviously anything higher is great

[fickle geode]

Idk if I should do it in a full lobby or private

[south cobalt]

Personally

I always recommend full lobby

No matter what

[hardy fox]

whats the fastest jet?

[south cobalt]

The pyro

I believe

Starlight too

But neither has explosive cannons

So if you want fast but also fire power

Lazer, rogue or raiju

Yes the rogue is actually fast

Underrated

[hardy fox]

gotcha, thank you pal 👍🏽

[south cobalt]

Np

[hardy fox]

yeah nah i use to have the rigue, goated starter plane fr

[south cobalt]

It is amazing

And 2 seater

Highly underrated

[south cobalt]

Take note who is in your lobby as well

If you notice a lot of killing you can use that to your advantage

But it depends

@hardy fox

[fickle geode]

I got griefed and all my stock destroyed one time

[south cobalt]

It happens

Its always worth ut

It

To me

[fickle geode]

Kinda the opposite because if there’s no killing means no griefing = passive chill lobby

[south cobalt]

I believe you get a 2% bonus for each person in the lobby at the end of the mission

[south cobalt]

Nah

If they killing each other that means they are not focused on each other

[fickle geode]

Yee

[south cobalt]

Lemme give you 2 scenarios

1 killer is just flying around in his oppressor killing what he sees anyone

[fickle geode]

That’s the red flag

[south cobalt]

Another guy in a different lobby has been going to war with 2 other guys for the last 10 mins

That is good

He is busy

Fighting someone specific

Thats to your advantage

Just don’t get too close

[south cobalt]

Yes

Does that help!

?

[fickle geode]

Either that or yk when your team is selling there’s like a connection thingy and if you stay apart from each other it reveals your location to the other players

[south cobalt]

Thats a specific sell mission

[fickle geode]

With the insurgent

[south cobalt]

Yes

Did that help @fickle geode

[fickle geode]

Mhm

[warm rose]

You should also try to join a good crew that has a no-kill crew rule (that most people in that crew follow) and an active leader in the game. It makes it easier to recruit people, and when you are in a public lobby with your crew, people always leave you alone.

[south cobalt]

Sorry to ask but can you give me a vouch. They are hard to come by 😅

[south cobalt]

Rate

Rare*

Crews got outdated

If you can get that great though

[warm rose]

If you were on Xbox 😂

[south cobalt]

But hard to find a consistent crew to help

[warm rose]

I’d invite you right now lol

[south cobalt]

I don’t do crews

Haven’t ina while

[fickle geode]

yk any crews?

[south cobalt]

1 man army

[warm rose]

The trick I discovered was to join the largest crew, which was also the worst crew.

IGN

[south cobalt]

I need like 6 more vouches 😑

[warm rose]

In those lobbies the smaller crews always do SYGs

[south cobalt]

That doesn’t help

Bunch of randoms in 1 crew

[warm rose]

So, you basically use the IGN label to get into full sessions where other crews are.

[fickle geode]

I joined

[fickle geode]

Ohh

[warm rose]

Yeah I found the right crew by joining IGN then always joining crew lobbies, then I joined Rose, NRSX, XEZV and now Im making my own with people from 4 different crews

[hardy fox]

how long does it take for nightclub stock to build up

[fickle geode]

IGN label?

[south cobalt]

A long time

I don’t even do it

[hardy fox]

oh okay

[south cobalt]

Have had it for years and it just doesn’t fill. Up

[warm rose]

Yup joined IGN for about a month, started attacking other crews LOL, held my own in PVP, and eventually got recruited.

[hardy fox]

i heard it takes like 67 hours but i wasn't sure sounds like a while

[south cobalt]

Do business battles and call that one dude if you really do wnat to fill it

[south cobalt]

I wouldn’t be surprised

Bc you don’t have to buy supplies

I wouldn’t focus too much on it

[hardy fox]

wait what does that involve?

[hardy fox]

yhyh keep it like a passive thing

[south cobalt]

What does what involve

[fickle geode]

Nice bro

[hardy fox]

who is that one dude ?

oh LJT ?

[south cobalt]

I wanna say his name is yohan

[south cobalt]

Nah

I haven’t called him in a while

But you can call a dude about nightclub supplies

[hardy fox]

YES yohan was it

just did it

[south cobalt]

Goodie

You can use him

[hardy fox]

thank you very much

[south cobalt]

But if you are really down for nc

Grind business battles

Direct profit

[south cobalt]

Np

[hardy fox]

yeah got nothing to do rn so probably will

[south cobalt]

They happen every 15 mins

As long as 3 ppl are in the lobhy

Lobby

[hardy fox]

yh

appreciate the help man

[south cobalt]

The air freight one is great

There’s like 10 crates

On the ship

[warm rose]

I feel like I'm about to ask a noob question😂

[south cobalt]

Ask

What?

It doesn’t work like that

[warm rose]

Is that actually legit? That parking your acid lab in sell vehicle spawn locations for MC work leads to less vehicles actually spawning?

[south cobalt]

Wait

[fierce tiger]

Anyone else had a bug where the setups for the Autoshop contracts are already complete when you accept the job? It keeps happening to me every time though Im not complaining...

[south cobalt]

Yes

[south cobalt]

I believe so

The wording confused me

[warm rose]

Soz I knew it was gonna be bad wording soz

[south cobalt]

Call in a sparrow and acid lab

[warm rose]

Sparrow works aswell?

Gonna try both then today i was told about it but have never actually done it myself

[south cobalt]

Yuh

Even if it doesn’t work worth a try

[buoyant harbor]

Ok, guy who said there's nothing good for discounts this week can scrub his brains out, cuz the Ramp car is one of the most fun things I own

[south cobalt]

Outdated 🤷‍♂️

[hardy fox]

cant even sell it

[warm rose]

nice try though

[south cobalt]

Never sell a vehicle

[hardy fox]

too late...

[warm rose]

Well, that is quite interesting….

There's some logic behind this

[brazen lake]

Getting jet got 3m do contact again or buy sub?

[warm rose]

Sub

Then cayo..

You're basically buying a business

[umbral fiber]

does it actually matter which hangar i choose at fort zancudo

they all look the exact same

[warm rose]

100%

[umbral fiber]

which one

[brazen lake]

Cheap

[warm rose]

Fort Zancudo is the only one with defence against people who do not have hangars (based there) it's a military base with free defence

[umbral fiber]

which hangar there

A2, 3499, 3497

A2 is the most expensive

can’t afford it

300k off

[brazen lake]

Cheap

[warm rose]

Any one of them

[umbral fiber]

does it matter?

A2 is apparently better

[warm rose]

Not really tbh but it's the best one for that reason imo

[brazen lake]

Vc me

[umbral fiber]

what

why

[brazen lake]

Might have a job for you

[umbral fiber]

no im fine

[brazen lake]

K

[umbral fiber]

what plane should i buy now lol

[brazen lake]

How much money u got

[warm rose]

Most important question

[brazen lake]

If got the money raiju

[wintry heron]

Guys I got 1.5m should I save for the oppressor mk2 or just oppressor I just need it for missions and faster travel

Or if I get grief we

Girefed

[shrewd ingot]

Don’t buy either

[warm rose]

Exactly

$8 million just to be a target

[shy moon]

Or get sparrow

Raiju is better for long distant grinding. Sparrow would be better if it wasn’t so fragile.

[shy moon]

But you could spawn it anywhere + don’t have to pay for it to be repaired

[warm rose]

Yeah, oppressors, both models are low-level PVP vehicles. A deluxo or torredor demonstrates how ineffective the oppressor's missile lock on system is. Oppressors have a bad reputation, and whether you are griefing or not, people will automatically assume you are griefing if you're flying their way.

I think if the oppressor did not have a unique map icon (like the toreador) that tells everyone what it is, there would be some redeeming quality at least in 2024

[brazen lake]

Anyone want to do the contract later today or tomorrow dm me

[fallow mural]

Hey @brazen lake, These are the PS4 LFG channels.
#🎮〢cayo-lfg-ps4
#🎮〢casino-lfg-ps4
#🎮〢doomsday-lfg-ps4
#🎮〢apartment-heist-lfg-ps4
#🎮〢businesses-lfg-ps4
#🎮〢other-lfg-ps4
#1191066746275242075
#1035310386443993138

[fickle geode]

I js sold my stock in a full lobby, got 1.3M could’ve been more but a car was destroyed

[fickle geode]

I js sold my stock in a full lobby, got 1.3M could’ve been more but a car was destroyed

[south cobalt]

How so

[warm rose]

Good job, bro. If you were on Xbox, I would have helped too, and I would have brought some of my crew to help. But good job, did you do it by yourself?

[south cobalt]

It wouldn’t have been more lmao

Ypu sold your bunker?

If you sell your bunker in a invite only and made all your sells you would have made less than that

They would have been around 1 million

Not 1.3

[scarlet comet]

any Dutch people here who wanna chill on gta pc?

[warm rose]

I was waiting for more 😅

“Never sell a vehicle”

Sounded like you were about to drop a gem

[fallow mural]

Hey @scarlet comet, These are the PC LFG channels.
#💻〢cayo-lfg-pc
#💻〢casino-lfg-pc
#💻〢doomsday-lfg-pc
#💻〢apartment-lfg-heist-pc
#💻〢businesses-lfg-pc
#💻〢other-lfg-pc
#1190735612077158441
#☝lfg-info

[fickle geode]

ofc not i had 3 body guards but this time it only needed 3 cars so ye but a monster truck was destroyed

[warm rose]

Excellent!

Yeah, one-man armies are a myth in GTA. Most people need help at some point, but do not know how to ask for it, so they never receive it.

[south cobalt]

Lmao

[fickle geode]

Because a truck was destroyed we only delivered 2/3

[fickle geode]

Oh ye mb abt that it was 1.03M

I got the bonus tho so I think that saved me

[fickle geode]

Wrd

[south cobalt]

Still would have been more than selling in a solo lobby 😭

[silent owl]

get the cheapest, they are all the same (id recommend getting a hangar at military base)

[hardy fox]

can you use opressor mk1 for missions

like doomsday setup missions for example

[warm rose]

Nah, bro 😂 them days are long gone

[fickle geode]

Well yea this time nobody decide to grief except one guy who destroy a truck

[little cairn]

only thing i sell in a public lobby is vechile cargo and acid

[scarlet comet]

Haven’t gotten on gtao in a bit is that new heist or summet out already

[little cairn]

clucking bell yeah

[scarlet comet]

Yea the cheapest mil base hangar is great got that one too location wise a W too

[scarlet comet]

Is it good

[little cairn]

500k per yeah

[scarlet comet]

Worddd sounds good

[little cairn]

and its like a longer contact mission i would say

[hardy fox]

dangnabbit

[gilded pagoda]

Need 3 for prison break heist on ps5

Psn ID is VOUGUE_SLAYER

[warm rose]

😂😂😂

Blame rockstar

[neon solstice]

Use the lfg's

[little cairn]

bro everyone ask in this or #💬┃gorilla-chat

[gilded pagoda]

Nobody is responding 😭

[neon solstice]

They will

[silent owl]

dude is the game bugged? im on the salvage yard quest and i opened first door for security key and its noticed it through a wall and now i cant open the other doors to grab the key?

anyone know what to do

[neon solstice]

Tried killing yourself?

[gilded pagoda]

👍 hopefully

[silent owl]

yea

did nothing

[little cairn]

ooc is crazy

[silent owl]

iv just relaunched the game

[jovial cobalt]

Yo

[neon solstice]

Might have to restart the game then

[silent owl]

yup

[brazen lake]

Fastest way to make 1m?

[neon solstice]

Cayo

[brazen lake]

Don’t have it’s second on my list to get

[neon solstice]

How you not have kosatka?

[brazen lake]

Just not bothered only level 61

[neon solstice]

I'd get it before the raiju it'll pay for itself quite quickly

But other quick way to make money tho, casino

Dre contract

[warm rose]

😂😂 this question is hilarious

Most people do not consider it a business. But that and the agency are mandatory.

[warm rose]

Yeah bro the kosatka answers this question almost immediately

[neon solstice]

Yeah, the kosatka is by far the best thing to own in the game

[warm rose]

100% agree, no overhead expenses, never gets raided regardless of whether you are an active CEO or MC president, stores the mini sub, can store toreadors and stromberg's and sparrow, can go off radar, cruise missles, sonar…ive missed something lol

[warm rose]

Actually 😂

Yeah

Insane.

[latent narwhal]

Uhhh💀

[sly ridge]

even in some cases, can go on land like nobodys business!

[warm rose]

And still quick travel after smh 😂

[latent narwhal]

I was tryna act slick 💀

[noble relic]

Can anyone make a heist and I get a big cut, I’m new trying to get kosatka

[sour spear]

The deluxo needs a fucking nerf

That thing shreds jets like it's absolutely nothing

And the vehicle dodges missles as if nerf dots are being fired towards it

[sour spear]

Spam the cluckin bell farmraid

[versed trellis]

Hands down Cayo Perico

[sour spear]

The streets won't forget cayo from 2020-2023

Rest in peace

[versed trellis]

As easy and accessible as the Cluckin Bell Raid is, it's just 500k per finale

Shame that doing all the extra steps during the setups doesn't give a whole lot of money

[sour spear]

To be fair, that dlc is mostly targeted towards low level players

To have a dlc like that for low levels is just insane

[versed trellis]

And maybe a certain gaming crew that's trying to make a restaurant chain in-game and make merch off of it

[sour spear]

Before this, in order to make bank in the game as a low level; u had to fucking spam simion missions or madrazo missions 5000 times in a row to buy the cheapest ceo office and a small crate warehouse to make some decent money, now since the cluckin bell farm raid dlc came out, new players don't have to go through that pain.

I mean it's a W

But still

[versed trellis]

Me omw to do Madrazo Dispatch just to try them out

Contact Missions are fillers for me whenever I'm waiting on other stuff to get out of their cooldown periods

[sour spear]

The crate warehouse imo needs a buff

It takes like fucking 8 hours plus in order to fill one large crate warehouse if u are autistic or someone who hates grass, the fact it only gives a 1.5 million dollar profit when it's full is way to little

The agency contact takes u like a 1 hours and 30 minutes to finish and u will get 1 million on the dot

[shy moon]

I didn’t even bother with warehouses

[sour spear]

Yeah but the payout is way too low

[shy moon]

Are they really good Yeah. But they take a shit long time to grind, even with with multiple people helping.

[sour spear]

It's dogshit

[shy moon]

It’s good during 2-3x week

[sour spear]

For one crate warehouse, it will take u probably around 5 to 8 hours to fill

And u only make 1.5 million dollar profit

😭

[shy moon]

True

4.5 million during 3x week. And if you do this for multiple warehouses then that’s even more

[sour spear]

And this is if u are someone who gave up grass, friends, family; ur school or job and ur university or college dreams.

If u are the average player who actually cares about this stuff then it will probably take u around 3 days

[shy moon]

Somewhat true

[sour spear]

Imo, the payout should be 4 million for the large crate warehouses

Since it takes more then 5 hours to fill

[sour spear]

And this is only how long it takes to fill one btw

Cayo takes like 1 hour to complete

And the proft for u will be 1 million if u get tequila

[rigid bridge]

What should I grind to get the raiju?

no cayo

or casino

I just need the 4mil

[versed trellis]

I certainly don't anymore. I make money more consistently and regularly with my property safes and all other tasks even if they're relatively menial in profit every time I do them

[rigid bridge]

What should I grind to get 4mil? No cayo or casino

[shy moon]

Agency, night club, bunker, acid lab.

[versed trellis]

Sell your businesses, sprinkle in some other stuff like Salvage Yard Robberies if you've got them for the week, some VIP Work, and so on

[rigid bridge]

I have all of those, which makes the most

[rigid bridge]

I don't got salvage

[versed trellis]

The Nightclub makes the most for a full sell

Followed by the Bunker

[rigid bridge]

Is the cluckin bell a good money method?

[versed trellis]

For what it is, yes

[shy moon]

Depends on the week. Assuming there’s no double money. It’s rather agency or night club.

[rigid bridge]

What's special about agency?

[versed trellis]

Does the Dr Dre contract have any bonuses?

[versed trellis]

The Dr Dre contract which pays 1 million when completed

[shy moon]

Dr Dre contracts, pay phone hits, and security contracts.

[rigid bridge]

the Dre contract is so long tho

[shy moon]

I got to over 10 million just by doing pay phone hits and security contracts b2b

[versed trellis]

And yeah, Payphone Hits and Security Contracts which are basically like VIP Work missions on steroids in terms of payout, paying nearly 3-4 times as much as VIP Work and way more than most Contact Missions

[rigid bridge]

So what shall I grind the most and I need an estimated time

Cuz I got an essay and stuff

[shy moon]

Grind all of them, set up a grinding routine.

[versed trellis]

Essay and work stuff first lmao

[shy moon]

^^^

[versed trellis]

Sooner you get that done, the sooner you get more time for grinding

[rigid bridge]

Nah I got an four day weekend

[versed trellis]

Work first, play later

[rigid bridge]

I can prolly get that done on Sunday🗿

[versed trellis]

Makes the play much more worth it in the end

[rigid bridge]

anyway I need help with the routine then I'll do allat

[versed trellis]

Besides, the more you delay something, it'll end up becoming a problem later on

[rigid bridge]

no because sunday I got nothing to do

Sunday I don't play games or social media or any of that

Rest day so I could do that essay

[shy moon]

Make sure your nightclub popularity and acid lab/bunker supplies are high, then do Dr. Dre contracts. After done, check on bunker, nightclub, and acid lab, then sell one of them once they’re ready to be sold. Then do payphone hits and security contracts b2b. You could also do auto shop missions when it’s 2-3x week.

[shy moon]

That’s what I did when I wasn’t trying to do heist

[rigid bridge]

What does bunker have?

I didn't even know it had sell

I thought it was just for the weapon mods 💀

[shy moon]

Honestly not much, does produce goods and let you get weapon modifications.

[rigid bridge]

Should I sell the akula?

[versed trellis]

A sell mission. It's a business in itself and has two extra money making options as well

Excess weapon parts can be sold every 48 minutes for 50k, and you can also use a Cargobob to fly the vehicle (a Duneloader) to whatever Ammu Nation it is that you have to take it to instead of just driving it to an Ammu Nation

[rigid bridge]

I don't got an cargobob

[versed trellis]

Aside from that, you can also request Research Work from Agent 14 which can help boost your Bunker research and it also pays around 30k

[versed trellis]

Then you can just drive it. You don't need a Cargobob but it will be much easier to do Bunker excess weapon parts missions with one

Since there will be enemy AI that attack you while on the mission. Just some Merryweather goons, nothing too difficult.

The only issue is the Duneloader's not that fast and you can't shoot directly behind you while driving it as there will be crates at the back containing the excess weapon parts

[tacit aspen]

Sbould i get raiju jet

[versed trellis]

If you really want it, yes

[tacit aspen]

Is it ALOT better then the hydra?

[versed trellis]

Heck yeah it is. You can actually upgrade it at your Hangar and it has stealth mode

[tacit aspen]

Fair enough

[versed trellis]

Not to mention it's also the fastest jet in the game

The Hydra's cool and all but simply barebones, a bit of a relic from the Heists update

[tacit aspen]

I just dont wsnt to waste money when I’ve got a jet

But yeah I’ll get it

[versed trellis]

I mean, you could use the Raiju to help you with VIP Work and Contact Missions. It still does have its worth as a Weaponized Aircraft

Personally more of a helicopter guy myself especially since aircraft cannons have lower fire rates but VTOL + stealth mode is nice

[tacit aspen]

I’ve killed everyone in a raiju so far in the hydra 😂😂

Either they’re bad or the jets bad haha

[versed trellis]

Objectively, the Raiju isn't bad

Not a PvP guy so I can't say much else

[rigid bridge]

Should I sell my akula?

For the raiju

[tacit aspen]

No

Grind for the raijuyou have all week

[versed trellis]

Don't think it's worth selling a gunship for a jet

Especially one with stealth mode like the Akula

[rigid bridge]

Raiju has stealth

raiju has VTOL and stealth

[misty pawn]

Raiju is so fast aswell

[versed trellis]

More of a helicopter guy myself. Jets will still be jets, VTOL or otherwise but that's probs just me

Only experience I've had with the Raiju is with the LSA Operations

[misty pawn]

But u can’t spawn the raju in missions

[versed trellis]

By "missions", you mean Contact Missions, right? Where you don't have access to MC and CEO/VIP abilities?

[misty pawn]

Yeh

[versed trellis]

Yeah, so basically non-free roam missions. Thanks 🙂

[misty pawn]

U can’t use mc in a lot of heists and missions

[versed trellis]

I've noticed tho that the favorite motorcycle bonus applies when you start a job

Or that might just be me seeing things

[rigid bridge]

So should I sell akula?

[versed trellis]

Don't

Unless you really need the money. Besides, it's cool as Rockstar's own rendition of the RAH-66 Comanche, a helicopter that apparently isn't always depicted in video games (unless you don't care about that)

The Raiju gets a missile reload time like the Lazer and Hydra, something that most of the medium-sized gunships don't have to worry about

[rigid bridge]

it's just I suck w helis

[versed trellis]

Forgot how much the Raiju can pitch down when in VTOL mode. That's something that gunships have over the Hydra in my experience so I'll have to see how it is with the Raiju for myself

[rigid bridge]

Well I have until next week

To get the raiju

On discount

[versed trellis]

3.8 million for the Raiju ain't bad at all, and that's the cost of fully upgrading it with the trade price

[rigid bridge]

I don't have trade price

[neon solstice]

Just do a cayos, you'll be good

[rigid bridge]

It's 4.8 mil for me

I can't solo

[neon solstice]

Can't solo cayo??

[versed trellis]

Actually quite happy that I did all of the Mercenaries stuff

[rigid bridge]

Yea

[neon solstice]

Ahh

[versed trellis]

Or wait, was that some other guy?

[rigid bridge]

I do have a Koysaka

[versed trellis]

Sorry xD

[rigid bridge]

I'm just terrible

[versed trellis]

Was thinking of someone else haha

[neon solstice]

Watch a guide

Tgg has good ones

It's really easy once you learn it

[rigid bridge]

Or u wanna run them w me?

[neon solstice]

I'm quite sick of cayo atm

[rigid bridge]

🗿

[versed trellis]

Can you solo Casino Heist as well or nah?

[rigid bridge]

no

[versed trellis]

Sadge

[rigid bridge]

I don't have arcade

my skill in missions are terrible 😭

[versed trellis]

Wait, my b. That wasn't a question for you to answer xD

[rigid bridge]

O

[versed trellis]

Like it was a legit question: can you play the Casino Heist solo, as in by yourself

I'll just look it up

[neon solstice]

No

[rigid bridge]

Oh

[neon solstice]

You need at least 2 people for casino

[versed trellis]

Yep, just looked it up as well

So guess that leaves Cayo as the only real solo heist

[rigid bridge]

cluckin bell

[versed trellis]

Not really a heist

[neon solstice]

Not really a heist

[tacit aspen]

It is

[versed trellis]

Not going to say jinx

[neon solstice]

Not like cayo or casino

[versed trellis]

And that's where the debate starts

[neon solstice]

[tacit aspen]

Fleeca bank isn’t like Cayo or casino

Does that mean it’s not a heist

[versed trellis]

It has setups and runs like an actual Heist but isn't launched from a specific player-owned property that's tied to it

[tacit aspen]

That’s not what defines a heist

[neon solstice]

Yeah, you have a point, but for this convo, it's not exactly comparable

[neon solstice]

Actually, sort of is

[versed trellis]

🤷

We didn't make the rules so it is what it is

[warm rose]

Anything that is a robbery is a heist lol

What are we doing here

[warm rose]

Rockstar does not dictate the definition of a heist.

🤦🏼‍♂️

[versed trellis]

Fair enough

[rigid bridge]

I have an idea

We just call cayo and casino heists a dif term

[versed trellis]

Anywho

[warm rose]

Yeah 😂 this conversation is going nowhere fast

This was the right response @versed trellis 😅

[versed trellis]

No further comment on that discussion

[warm rose]

I am still trying to figure out why I am still getting god mode griefers if all of the possible methods are actually patched. ….

[versed trellis]

The most chill discussion about semantics be like

[versed trellis]

Rip

Only god mode exploit I've heard about was with the Speedo Custom

From some French YouTuber's video where he was just riding around on a BMX bike fighting griefers

[mental patrol]

Bmx is top tier

They should make it imani tech imo

[versed trellis]

Real

And hopefully indestructible like it was in GTA San Andreas

[mental patrol]

Why do some people have more vehicles in saa, like the faggio mod, sport and such?

[versed trellis]

That would be pretty funny. Sticky Bombs on a remote control BMX

[mental patrol]

With a thruster

[versed trellis]

Yes

[warm rose]

We did a stand your ground just now 😂 10 of us, 5 in tanks, shooting at one person. Just walking through shit as if there were not five fully upgraded tanks.

[warm rose]

😂😂

Yeah I like this idea

[versed trellis]

Most normal day in Los Santos

[warm rose]

Leave the bmx riders alone. But that imani tech only stops rockets, not headshots. You’d need some sort of semi passive mode lol

[versed trellis]

God mode BMX?

:3

[rigid bridge]

I just sold my akula

[warm rose]

Might as well give it homing missles at that point ☠️

[rigid bridge]

I have 2,593,000/4, 798,000

[warm rose]

Oppressor MK3

[warm rose]

Why that’s actually a good vehicle 😅

Stealth mode too?

Damn bro

[rigid bridge]

I want raiju

And I suck with helicopters

I cannot drive helicopters

it hurt my soul selling akula

But raiju worth

[cold gale]

How do you fly a helicopter on xbox?

@rigid bridge

[warm rose]

Each to their own. considering The Raiju has vertical takeoff/landing as well, so it is not a complete loss.....but the Akula is definitely one of the better weaponized helicopters.

[rigid bridge]

Don't ask me I'm dookie

Rt to go up

Lt to go down

[brazen lake]

Buy it

[rigid bridge]

Buy what

[mental patrol]

A cat

[versed valley]

in a hat with a bat

[mental patrol]

catching a rat

[rigid bridge]

That is fat

Named pat

[versed trellis]

Me casually owning the Hunter, Akula, and Savage as my primary attack helicopters because I'm a military enthusiast

And I use my Avenger as a heavy gunship. Shame it doesn't have bullet resistant windows anymore

[rigid bridge]

I can't get rainu

Raiju

Torturous grind

[versed trellis]

You have a week for it so you can still muster up some cash

[magic geyser]

I brought it day one

But I've been playing 8 years 12 days so

[mental patrol]

Me casually only owning the sparrow

Aka the goat of all choppers

[verbal musk]

Me when I slightly push the S too hard

And it starts smoking

[mental patrol]

Me when the sparrow outruns everything just to flip after touching a tree's branch

[sharp parrot]

full metal jacket rounds are for armored stuff right? good for kuruma and police van? regular pistol or sns pistol for best? also can we bring those ammos into casino for armored guys

[tulip pumice]

Did they nerf the cost of sale for the deluxo?

Oh

That sucks

[mental patrol]

Wasnt it planned?

Or is it already up?

[rigid bridge]

Can anyone help me get 2 mil?

[neon solstice]

Wrong channel

[prisma tapir]

Why lol I usually sell my unused cars to make space for new ones, this is a great inconvenience for me

[versed trellis]

Because the selling of cars was abused

Can't even sell some cars anymore that sell for more than 500k. Noticed this when I tried selling my fully upgraded Stromberg and I couldn't

[mental patrol]

Lfg

[mental patrol]

Never sell cars

cars for life

And it was abused by mods/glitches

[rigid bridge]

How can I make my last mil

For the raiju

[mental patrol]

Play the game

[rigid bridge]

Nah like quick

I had to sell my Buffalo STX 😭

[regal widget]

Just do a cayo or some shit like dr dre contract or casino heist

If you don’t have access to any of these then just do whatever best money making method you got

[peak vigil]

cayo perico is just getting harder urgh

rip pink diamond

i already pick a weaker weapon (the one that has a molotov)

[regal widget]

Harder?

What are you struggling with in it?

The finale can be done by barely killing any NPC
Just watch some YouTubers guide
Tgg had a good one

[peak vigil]

the guard is always alerted and i can't kill the juggernaut

maybe because of the dead body

[mental patrol]

You kill exactly 2-3 npcs in the cayo finale

[peak vigil]

yes that

i still use old method

and failed

[mental patrol]

The guards you kill cant even be seen by the jugger

[peak vigil]

oh

[regal widget]

Dont kill anyone in the compound if you are solo

[mental patrol]

I dont even know what that is

[mental patrol]

You have to kill the guard on the stairs as a precaution

[regal widget]

@peak vigil are you using the 2020-2021 method

[mental patrol]

He wont pose a threat but just in case

[regal widget]

I pass by him as well

Just take cover when he is coming down

Takes 5 seconds extra but funnier

[peak vigil]

yes

[regal widget]

Lmao dont

That’s outdated

[peak vigil]

ah no wonder i failed most of the time

[regal widget]

Guards became slightly more intelligent since 2020/2021

Though they are still dumb af

Look for some 2022-2023 guide

Those are fine

[verbal musk]

I do kill all the guards that possibly holds key

About 6 of them and the juggernaut

The route works for duo too

[mental patrol]

Wait onlycertain guards can?

Holy, never knew that

I thought all of them had a chance of holding it

[prisma tapir]

Guys is there any way to use moc for cayo prep

[sly ridge]

no unfortunately

you can't return the kosatka back to storage while you have the cayo prep launched

you can only have 1 service vehicle out at once

[mental patrol]

Sometimes I wanna personally hurt modders

[verbal musk]

2 by the pools, 1 by the camera by the office, 3 with red visions near office

[mental patrol]

Thank you

[prisma tapir]

These crappy modders try to play god with you absolutely infuriating behaviour

Yep

That makes sense

[mental patrol]

Yep, Met one with gm on a deluxo

Couldnt do much against him in game sadly

[prisma tapir]

Lol sometimes they are like giving 125 percent of cuts in heists

[mental patrol]

Genuinely I dont care, exterminate mods for good

The cons outweigh everything good about them

Gta is a pain in the ass to earn money but Id rather have a hard time when I need to get money rather than having a hard time enjoying what I get with the cash

[prisma tapir]

Bro it feels like a full time job sometimes

[mental patrol]

Still better than getting blown up, multi killed, caged, walled off, watching them flex modded cars, speed glitching to win races, flinging our cars, god moding, kicking, multi stunning our avatar, filling the skies with planes to kill us, getting stuff like the car selling nerfed, making r*'s job harder etc

Just for money?

Not worth it what so ever

[dense zenith]

is raiju only useful for PVP or is it useful for other things too?

[mental patrol]

Only pvp

Its pretty bad at transport since it spawns away from you

[dense zenith]

oh okay i was about to buy it

glad i didnt

should i spend 250k for railgun

[mental patrol]

One shot most cars so yes

[dense zenith]

not pvp

is it worth for pve

[mental patrol]

Evironment?

Like npcs?

Pretty much

Ye

[dense zenith]

yeah

[mental patrol]

Yep

One shots all buzzards and other npc cars

Juggernauts are an easy kill

[dense zenith]

isnt the ammo too expensive for railgun

like 20k for max

[mental patrol]

Yep

But its an easy kill

So I recommend it

[dense zenith]

is it true that i can use drop ammo from ceo abilities and drop the ammo for 1k only

and it would max the railgun ammo

or is it patched

[versed trellis]

Quite worth it. Much more effective at destroying helicopters than a rocket launcher since you don't have to worry about projectile travel time

Only problem is you need to hit the the actual body of the target: the round can pass through windshields and windows without destroying the intended target so keep that in mind. Very nice for PvE

[prisma tapir]

So true

[prisma tapir]

Spot on accuracy makes it effective against opressors as well

[mental patrol]

You gotta hit the Mk II tho

So you have to time it

[prisma tapir]

Takes some skill actually seeing how agile is an opressor

[dense zenith]

oh okayy

[versed trellis]

Takes accuracy but rewards it very well. It doesn't do a much damage as a rocket but will destroy most vehicles in 1 shot. The very fast projectile travel speed and good range are hard to pass up even if it's a bit expensive

[dense zenith]

yeah i mainly need it for destroying helis

[versed trellis]

Works well at that. Most AI helis die in 1 shot anyway and that's what the Railgun excels at as a quick reacting anti-vehicle weapon

You can also blindfire it from behind cover which is nice

[prisma tapir]

I mostly use heavy sniper

In 3 or 4 shot ai heli goes down

[versed trellis]

Sometimes that 1 quick Railgun shot can really help

That's personally my preference especially since the zoom and view with a sniper scope can give you tunnel vision for closer ranged targets

Just bought the Raiju myself and have been using it as a fast transport for several hours now

[prisma tapir]

Raiju is good but I really don't know how to use it to my advantage

Spawn locations are difficult sometimes

[fading raptor]

Bro

I hope they don't Nerf clucking bell

[wintry heron]

Hello everyone

I need help

Im rank 50, is there any way i can bypass customisation rank limits? Like armor 100% not being locked for me and all

[mental patrol]

I dont think there is a way to bypass armor 100

Other than buying cars from the ls car meet from other players?

[versed trellis]

Yeah, it's really just a matter of working them out. Was pissed about an hour ago trying to spawn it in during The Gangbanger Robbery while I was at LSIA. Instead of spawning my Raiju at an LSIA runway close to me, the game decided to spawn it on the nearby Elysian Island to the east 💀

[wintry heron]

Aw man, guess im grinding to 100 then

[mental patrol]

Dw

Just have fun in the game

complete heists, drive, get achievements, spin wheels, kill players >:D

And you will rank the hell up

[versed trellis]

If you have a lot of stuff to do, you will rank up relatively quickly. Usually without even noticing it especially at the lower levels

I was like Rank 142 when I came back a month ago. And now I'm Rank 171 just by doing sell missions, contact missions, and all sorts of other stuff

[prisma tapir]

Sometimes Pegasus helicopters spawn at merryweather hanger at the port lol

[versed trellis]

Getting close to Rank 200 and after that, I've got no reason to ask for more RP. Just need money by then

[versed trellis]

Bruh

[prisma tapir]

Like should be fighting a war to get to my chopper lol

[versed trellis]

Literally the most reliable spawns to trust are for your motorcycles when in an MC

As well as CEO vehicle spawns and Sparrow spawns

[prisma tapir]

Sparrow has best spawns

It has become my go to vehicle for everything now

[wintry heron]

Nah man i dont wanna pick fights as i dont got weaponised vehicles

[mental patrol]

kill people

Go to the street

And have a murder spree

[wintry heron]

Imma just do heists and level up

[prisma tapir]

Get an opressor and start your griefing now!!!

[versed trellis]

Could also bounty hunt if that's your thing

[mental patrol]

Dont

oppressors suck

[wintry heron]

What does one even achieve by griefing

[molten latch]

Guys my bf said I need to grief to get money so how do I grief

[wintry heron]

I think kd doesnt affect in free mode now right?

[versed trellis]

Simple: don't

[mental patrol]

Ruin someones day (do it rarely)

[versed trellis]

Nah, just in deathmatches iirc

[molten latch]

He said it’s the best way to make money

[wintry heron]

Dont u only get like 2000 for destroying cargos

[versed trellis]

I'm just going to have to stop you right there. No one is going to respond with a serious answer to that

[molten latch]

I’m serious

[prisma tapir]

Blow up someones cargo to troll them

[mental patrol]

Say you are a girl in a pub lobby, kill everyone who starts to rapidly drive toward you in a shitty pimped out cat

Thats a serious answer

[wintry heron]

Better grief in real life

[mental patrol]

Car not cat ffs

[mental patrol]

[versed trellis]

Yeah, no. Fuck around and find out is not a good idea

[prisma tapir]

True💯

[versed trellis]

There are simply people out there who want to ruin the experience for others

[wintry heron]

Piss off the cartels and see the pearly gates earlier

[prisma tapir]

Public school's unknown battlegrounds

[versed trellis]

Could go on a massive tangent about that's how humanity is and why we're screwed but yeah

[prisma tapir]

Go on

[wintry heron]

Has someone ever played gta like elon musk

[versed trellis]

Would rather not. Besides, it's Good Friday

[prisma tapir]

Founding Tesla and shi

[wintry heron]

I think he doesnt like the crimes happening in gta

Why are we allowed to kill people in a grand theft auto game 🤓 🤓

[prisma tapir]

Lol that's the whole point lol

@wintry heron he should playing nothing else than sims

[prisma tapir]

Just some joking don't mind

God bless

[versed trellis]

🙏

[mental patrol]

Its called Grand Theft Auto for a reason

Anyway, I dislike his statement on gta

But overall I love the guy

Has one of the most profitable car brands, Owns a company like nasa and a boring company

Furthermore he is humorous

[prisma tapir]

Look at the irony game is named grand theft auto and it's one of the worst ways to make money currently

@mental patrol

Lol getting paid 20000 for a car that can go for more than 200-300k

[mental patrol]

If it was easy everyone would be a mk II griefer

Its the games way of staying relevant

Its business

[prisma tapir]

Yeah I know I was just pointing out the irony

How much boost does bunker get with upgrades

??

[versed valley]

That's the lamest excuse for griefing I've ever heard. Griefers are simply low-life, useless dorks that enjoy harrasing others instead of minding their own business.
And don't give me that shit "it's just a game, bro" because behavior in games reflects exactly what you are in real life, a total asshole in this case.

[mental patrol]

Not low lives lmao

Low lives are better than them

[molten latch]

Who said I even griefed my bf suggested it to me

I don’t grief lmao

But now I see there’s no purpose

[prisma tapir]

Things became worse since epic games gave away gta 5 for free and these pubg mobile and freefire kids popped up in gta online thinking it's the same

[mental patrol]

People who constantly grief are people who lack a chromosome

Killing a player once in a while is fine, its in the game. But constantly going on murder sprees on players as well as modding the players are bad

[molten latch]

Should I get the neon?

[prisma tapir]

Why don't these crappy modders don't get banned lol

[prisma tapir]

You have a toros?

[molten latch]

No what’s tha

[mental patrol]

A urus

Anyway, What do you wanna do in gta? Based on that get your new car

[versed valley]

I was talking about his excuse, or maybe simply out of ignorance?

[molten latch]

Ahh

All good

I wanted to see your guys reactions and opinions

He actually did say that though🤣

[prisma tapir]

I think he trolled him\her

[molten latch]

He thinks he did

[mental patrol]

Respectfully

[versed valley]

You should explain him and suggest him to change his way, be a good boy

[mental patrol]

If you grief the wrong person

Your game will be hell

[molten latch]

No need for me to grief

I just sit in my expensive ass yacht😜

[prisma tapir]

Everyone please chill treat the game like it's a game

[molten latch]

I’ve done my grind lol

[mental patrol]

Then why did he want you to make more money?

[prisma tapir]

Now you trolling us

[molten latch]

I told him I didn’t have any

[mental patrol]

Why?

[molten latch]

Naw serious with this

[molten latch]

To see what he says

[mental patrol]

I see

[molten latch]

Although

He knows I brought a yacht for the fun of it

[prisma tapir]

Perhaps 🐮

[mental patrol]

How much do you have?

Im curious now

[molten latch]

10milly

[versed valley]

so, you did your grind or he did and you're simply wasting his money?

[molten latch]

I did

It’s my account

[prisma tapir]

Your bio says 17

[versed valley]

oh, ok

[molten latch]

Formerly 17

[prisma tapir]

Ok

[molten latch]

Got a deluxo

[versed valley]

stalker

[mental patrol]

You can never waste money

(Im a gambling addict)

[prisma tapir]

Bro u hit your head hard or something

[versed valley]

I'm formerly 14, for almost 4 decades...

[prisma tapir]

Mc buisnesses

[versed valley]

oh I see, so you mean money is not wasted, but well spent

[mental patrol]

They arent a waste

[molten latch]

We should all play together sometime

That’d be

[mental patrol]

Help you get the terr

[prisma tapir]

Sure

[mental patrol]

Which helps you get the mk II

[molten latch]

Fun😊

[mental patrol]

So they are pretty useful

[molten latch]

I alr have mk2

[mental patrol]

Everyone does

[versed valley]

you can try getting people to do stuff with you on the "lfg" channels

[prisma tapir]

I am level 126 with 200k in bank and no opressor

[mental patrol]

Mhmm

[mental patrol]

[versed valley]

A while ago I started new accout and characters and I've made a conscious decision to NOT get an opressor

[mental patrol]

bad financial choices

[molten latch]

It’s not required

[mental patrol]

I got it just to kill anyone who tries to kill me

[prisma tapir]

Vehicles

[versed valley]

I'm enjoying the game much more without it

[mental patrol]

Then realised its shit and bought the vigilante, scram and deluxo

[mental patrol]

Pretty handy to have when a griefer on an insurgent does a hit and run

[versed valley]

the op mk 2 makes things too easy and it turns boring at some point

[prisma tapir]

Biggest waste of money for me was the impaler sz car thing was slow as hell

[molten latch]

Boring

[prisma tapir]

Whut

[versed valley]

I unfortunately couldn't bare griefers and modders and decided to give up public lobbies totally

[mental patrol]

My biggest waste of money would be an arena war dress

[molten latch]

The mk2

[mental patrol]

Thats no fun, you gotta come back someday

[versed valley]

I play solo on invite only lobby

[prisma tapir]

Coloured headlights💀

But I love em

[versed valley]

nothing fun in modders, they even "helped" me once and wrecked my whole profile, made me level 8000 and with all the achievements and all the stuff I can get, as well as tons of money

[prisma tapir]

When I was level 14 I got rp bombed and became level 39

[versed valley]

I'm also kinda lone wolf irl life too, prefer to find ways to not depend on others

sometimes I ocassionally play with my son, he's the reason I started playing GTA Online, but now he left me here and I'm playing more than him

[mental patrol]

You gotta report it and r* will revert your account back

[mental patrol]

Thats the solo grind

But sometimes you have to flex the cars out

[versed valley]

that was at the beginning, I didn't know I could do that, since then I've resetted and restarted many times

[mental patrol]

ooo How old is he?

[versed valley]

No I'm not

My CEO business is called "The essentials"

[prisma tapir]

Didn't know any adults play this game much

[versed valley]

After having everything, I decided to go back to basics

I don't buy much stuff, I start a character building up mainly based on "what the game gives"
I don't like grinding over and over the same cargo or hangar missions, for example

[mental patrol]

Most ofthe game consists of adults

[versed valley]

so I rotate between them

[mental patrol]

19 20+

[versed valley]

he's 14 now

[prisma tapir]

The way they behave I don't think so

[versed valley]

but he now plays with his friends mostly in FiveM RP

[prisma tapir]

How old are you?

Sorry for asking if it's bit personal

[versed valley]

I love playing as an escape from my real life, that's why when games turn to be "work" I don't enjoy

[mental patrol]

The dignified ones

[molten latch]

Older than me

[versed valley]

I'm 52

[prisma tapir]

You as old as my dad

[versed valley]

nothing personal about asking one's age, I don't get that weird PC rule

[versed valley]

Yep, but I'm mentally 14

[mental patrol]

I wouldve loved to have a dad like you when I was younger

[prisma tapir]

Lol playing gta with dad would be fun

[molten latch]

Ugh

[mental patrol]

A cool one

[versed valley]

so I'm a "cool dad", btw, that's the name of my account, just that in my language, and it sounds similar to an english word so I combined them and it gets the word noob in it

[molten latch]

I’m glad I’m not a mom yet

[versed valley]

me too

[molten latch]

These days have changed

[molten latch]

Ur old school?

[prisma tapir]

My dad caught me while storymode was loading with that beach girl lol

[versed valley]

I wouldn't say that

[mental patrol]

Always comes at the worst time

[molten latch]

I’d say I’m new school

24ig

[versed valley]

I'm a gen x, the most badass generation

[prisma tapir]

Lol

[molten latch]

Cool!

I’m 24

But I really love old school music over the hip hop stuff

[versed valley]

I have kids older than you

[molten latch]

But the old school hip hop ong

Omg

[versed valley]

I was a young dad, at 20

[molten latch]

It’s so good

[molten latch]

Wow

[versed valley]

so I have a 32 y/o son too

[prisma tapir]

Most people don't move out at that age

[mental patrol]

The next time you get on the game, let us know. It would be a pleasure playing with you

[versed valley]

he's also a heavy gamer

[molten latch]

Right

[mental patrol]

Family of gamers?

Now thats nice

[versed valley]

I'm just about to get in, if you're up for it

[mental patrol]

Please tell me the mom games too

[molten latch]

Well I’m

Working on the family thing too lol

[prisma tapir]

Imagine a whole family playing together grinding heists

[mental patrol]

2kids a dad and a mom would be awesome

[versed valley]

nah, didn't manage to get her on it... she only plays bubbles on her phone

[versed valley]

I'd imagine this could be my son's future...

[prisma tapir]

My mom only plays candy crush she is on 230 or 240 level

[versed valley]

so, if you want, I'm just about to set up cayo, bought kosatka last night before going to sleep

[prisma tapir]

Would love to do that

[versed valley]

and have no money left on my account, so I need to make some money fast

[prisma tapir]

When you on

[versed valley]

ok, hook up to my profile, my name in SC is AbaGanoob

[prisma tapir]

My social club is my discord username

[versed valley]

@mental patrol @molten latch you up for it too?

[molten latch]

And a future mother here🤣

[versed valley]

😁

[prisma tapir]

💀

[versed valley]

@prisma tapir sent you SC friend request

[molten latch]

I’ma go to sleep

[prisma tapir]

Ok let me load up gta

[molten latch]

Tired

[prisma tapir]

Gn

(it's afternoon here

)

[versed valley]

where are you Mimzy? Americas?

GN

[prisma tapir]

Which continent you are in @versed valley

[versed valley]

That's a weird one... geologically wise, we're considered Asia, but I'm in Israel, so it's middle east, mediterranean

[prisma tapir]

Nice israel

That middle east

[versed valley]

we're sitting right in the crack between two tectonic plates, the great Syria-African Rift

[versed valley]

a bit less nice nowadays, but yeah

[prisma tapir]

You got attacked not your fault you retailated

[versed valley]

yeah, but it's a mess, not an easy to understand situation

the biggest problem is the world doesn't seem to understand but it doesn't stop them from giving their ignorant opinions

but let's leave politics out of here, we're here for fun, for gaming, that's what I prefer...

[prisma tapir]

If I comment anything further I may get banned

So I think we should leave it here

@versed valley I send you an invite

[versed valley]

yep

[versed valley]

in game? I don't see it yet

[prisma tapir]

Yeah

[versed valley]

I'm in a closed friend session, so feel free to join me

[prisma tapir]

Ok

[cobalt roost]

Hey add me as a Discord friend

[magic geyser]

No

[mental patrol]

No

[sour spear]

NOOOOO

Anyways

How the fuck does the toreador still have unlimited missles

When is that gonna fixed

[mental patrol]

The hell you mean fixed

Its a god send

Perfectly balanced

[sour spear]

No its not

Those missles trackings are absolutely thunderous

[mental patrol]

Thats good right?

Its an anti griefer tool

[sour spear]

No it's not when u are in pvp lobbies

[mental patrol]

Then hop out of your car and shoot the window

Slick mine it

[sour spear]

And some people abuse that power

[mental patrol]

Pretty hard to be griefed by a toreador

Shoot the driver in the head

Get behind it

Get on top of it

[sour spear]

Rockstar must either give the toreador thruster missles

[mental patrol]

It is op yes

Fuck no

[sour spear]

Or buff the tracking of it but give the missles a limit of 30

[mental patrol]

Toreadors are the only things keeping mark IIs in check

[sour spear]

Deluxos>

[mental patrol]

Get hit by a single railgun or 2 explosive rounds

Slow

[sour spear]

Deluxos can dodge mk2 missles like nerf dots are being shot towards it

[mental patrol]

and a mk II can run away

[mental patrol]

Ye so they dodge it thats all

In every other case they loose

[sour spear]

You don't even have to be skilled to be able to dodge missles with the Deluxo

[mental patrol]

The toreador can chase the mk II to an extent

No shit you just have to turn

The mark II runs and you cant chase it as well

[sour spear]

The deluxo also has one of the best missle trackings in the game

[mental patrol]

Yes and still can be taken out with one explosive

[sour spear]

That thing shreds jets and mk2 vehcles like they are nothing

[mental patrol]

Try catching a mark II in a deluxo

[sour spear]

The God tier missle tracking will do that

[mental patrol]

The chaff will take care of that

Deluxos are a piece of cake to take care of