#🚔┃gta-discussion
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Their choice. I can cayo and i dont repeat it ad nauseam
Dude stop telling people what they shpuld be having fun doing. People have options and choose
No properties. What u have
Uh I'm not saying anything lol
Bunker and ceo office
Agency
Its on sale and the missions are 2x money and rp this week
I'm not telling people what to do bruh
Let me see
People had to enjoy gta to the fullest. Maybe people didnt find that fun
i’m getting on gta right now 
You make zero sense
Trust me best option now

whooo
It’s 2 mil right
i think you talking Giga
hugs MarTy there there
Around that
Ok
But since a security mission lasts 10m and gives you 80k minimum this week... 😁
I'm convinced this is chill and vibes alt
Lol
Lol
Also the Dr Dre story is cool, and you get some hundreds as you go and progress
Yeah Rock
Stop telling people what to do
🤣
I got the weapons workshop
And vehicle workshop as well
It’s not letting me in the agency tho
Hey
hey
What you mean?
The weapons workshop where?
In the agency?
so what should i do
i got arcade
and bunker
but i wanna upg bumker
so should i do@that
Ong
arcade bunker counterfiet cash kosatka
So arcade, bunker what else
Do cayo
thats pretty much it other than apartment
Office?
yea
no agency
Cool
And 2x money ob jobs
and i have only 30k rn
No need
Remember cayo is solo
So you buy the agency and with the rest you are econkmically safe
Economically
i think i gotta watch a video on cayo
After that you start building your nightclub setup
i havent did it in 6 months
#871616746862305330 you have TGGs there
🍺 have a drink mate...
How long is the wait between security contracts?
Just enough to do a Ceo Vip work
That is the idea
Ceo headhunter and then a sec cont
Okay, so like 1 security then 1 vip over and over?
Are the mkII weapons expense I’ve
Yeah
Ok
Okay thanks
Right now each combo lands ypu around 150k
Also how do the pay phone hits
Okay, thanks
You can call him for sec contr as well
Okay
So sometimes i just ended a headhunter on the sparrow, call franklin and he gives me the security c while im on flight
Brilliant
Can anyone help me with the casino missions
Pay phone give slightly less money btw
#lfg-casino-ps
No the miss baker missions
Don’t vip missions only give 50k
Oh the penthouse story
Yes
Ye
50+95 of agency this week gives you 150k roughly wvery 25m
Who can I do missions with
Did u see what i replied to u
Kinda
It works like this
Every security contract adds a small amount to the daily revenue to the safe
But maily you do the contracts, there is no buy sell here
Besides the agency can be used to upgrade certain vehicles with special abilities
If u have the vehicle workshop
But its main thing is a agency office job combo
Does anybody know why I can't purchase any car from the los santos tuners update? the buy button is gray and it won't let me buy it
Huh dont have that
Guys i have the kosatka and the sparrow, what next . I have bunker ware house and mc
Agency
Ok
On sale this week
I should be fucking getting commissions by now
Note to all doing headhunter / security contracts combo: an akula goes a long way
Lfg?
Hi
hey
Hi
How often does laser plane spawn?
So if someone destroys it when will it spawn again
bruh everytime i do the casino heist with three people the game dissconects
you probably have poop wifi
yea but when it does work the game still bugs out
@rotund raven
quite often
never seen that before
even when my wifi does work it always gets fucked up somehow i just hope this time it will work
Numbers. Every 2 minutes maybe? 5?
ive had issues when leaving the building after we looted the place but that only happens to me when im doing aggressive approach
i don't understand why the lazer costs 6 million but a hydra 3
like the hydra is just a better version of the lazer
i dont have an accurate number of minutes but it does spawn rapidly
Do i need to have a hanger or can it be stored elsewhere
Where can they be stored if u dont have hanger
only if you want a chrome hydra
wich i do
you can call pegasus to have it delivered to you
if i was home i would. i have a cayo ready
Ok but like if i buy a lazer without hanger then i buy a hanger later on how do i store lazer in hanger
Last ques
Can u use Pegasus vehicle and personal vehicle at same time?
call it out and fly into the hangar
yeah thats how i got rich
i went from having skill issue to not having any skill playing cayo
I think they need to re balance some of these business and payouts for jobs and other stuff to make it worth while
GTA is just a heist grind nowadays
yepp\
Like if we have to start over in gta 6 and it’s online feature, I’m not starting over with the same stuff. I’d just stay on gta v online at that point
Quite honestly unless gta 6 has a great story, I’m not looking forward to it unless they add something that attracts me over to it
Should buy the zhaba or should I save up my money and buy the oprresor mk 1 (already own a mk 2)
dont buy the zhaba its pretty useless and its slow
Ok
dont even bother trying to unlock the trade price for it

i dont know about that one
What do you guys think the online mode of gta 6 will be like?
Well do you think it’s gonna be the same money methods or are they going to have new stuff?
Same stuff
Some new cars and locations
But it’ll be pretty much the same
Severs are still gonna be crap
Hmm I think I may just stick to gta 5 online then
Why start over with the same crap when I can just use what I have now
Idk
I mean ya see my point?
what’s better
Rhino tank or invade and persuade
What’s incase and persuade?
It’s an rec tank
Rc tank
It 2.2 mil
It’s pretty fun
U can put a plasma cannon on it
Ah! I think that’s better than the rhino
True but does price make it better? This is gta we’re talking about
What weapon should I apply for oppressor
cannon
and now with Imani tech you can do that in a normal car (well out of 8)
For all those that dont know, 10F is out
How would you get more money in the safe
Doing security contracts?
Security contracts a actual good way to make money
it is
each time you finish one, I believe it add 50 to the daily income of the agency
but it never goes down
Damn what the hell
or something like that
keep grinding and you will see it go up
but anyway, the secs are great
to do AO (agency office) grind
It’s alright security contracts make a slot
and they are fun as well
How to make eggs on pan in stove max heat
Heat
Got it
The CEO VIPs make 40-50
just like the secs
but both have cooldowns
so you alt between one and the other
Uh oh! This shouldn't happen. Please try again or reach out to support for more help.
Not talking about vip jobs
so you alternate between one and the other
Uh oh! This shouldn't happen. Please try again or reach out to support for more help.
does making an AO grind
Oh okay
So just stick to sec contracts for now
Okay cool I’ll do that
teh story si REALLY well made as well
Got it looking forward to it
imho the agency was one of the best adds since a long time
What I should do it’s do the agency contract
Then do a vip mission while cool down is over right
hey how weak is the terrorbyte?
I was jw
I tried to use it as an assationation tool for the payphone mission, it didn't do ish but be annoying?
Oh okay
wanted to know what I did wrong
anyone wanna pratice dogfighting with me or dog fight me im new to dog fighting and i need to learn how to dog fight dm me
Didn’t Michael Vick get arrested for that👀🤨
yes
Worth getting the vehicle workshop at agency ?
Oh right the Imani tech
It’s 500 dollars for every five you do
yeah
Thanks
Do the security contracts then do things like Payphone hits and what not. If you’re interested in doing the DR Dre vip contracts prepare to commit to waiting but you do get paid 1mill afterwards
I stand corrected
Ok cool
How would I do a pay phone bit
Hit
Call Franklin on your phone
What’s the cooldown on it
10-20 minutes I think
sad that the payphone dont got double money too
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Should i get hydra or lazer
if to do stuff non-PVP
Akula
the stealth helps in many missions
Spamming that 7 rocket rapid fire is fun asf
Hydra or lazer for dog fights and killing people who kill me on floor
i think i heard that the lazer is real good for dog fights
I need to go back into public lobbies sometime. I’ve just been grinding stuff in invite only for so long I’ve forgotten what it’s like
I know that sharing is caring but sharing your IP like that with others aint that smart
What?? What does that have to do with IP?
the fact that ya dont know what i mean, means ya shouldnt go back to public lobbies
Oh I figured it out
I just didn’t get the context of what you meant by that. I get it now
But um yeah I probably need to invest in Nord VPN
Should i get hydra or lazer
hydra
I bought it now will i be satisfied?
As a noob would you folks recommend not doing the bunker deliveries for a while? I keep getting nuked by people on flying bikes
Can I realistically hit them with the starter level missile launcher thing btw or should I just accept my fate lol
How do i fly hydra on xbox?
don’t bother with them there not that good i recommend doing document forgery
@wicked birch I would just recommend selling in an invite only lobby to avoid people blowing you up
@dawn sentinel I hope you’re trolling about that
Lol ty
Bunker is a good thing to start out with until you can an agency then, get a Kosatka.
Thanks! I’ve only been playing for a couple of days so far but have watched guides and stuff
Good!
Thanks! I will try that tomorrow
@wicked birch I sent you a dm
@orchid spire @slender pivot thanks guys just fully decked out my agency thanks for the tips
Should I buy a night club next?
I would stay away unless you own all mc business, ceo office and a bunker
correct
Ok what should my next step be then
And don’t get it just for the terrobyte, terrobyte missions are trash
I just need all mc business
so im assuming everyone has heard about these try guys right?
whats the big damn deal why are they so huge all the sudden when they are just some random ass buzzfeed group no one really cares about until this 1 guy cheats on his wife
@unreal kayak if you want nightclub, all other businesses should be purchased first
Ok
Is there any other ways to make a good amount of money or something that will be fun
To die
Other than cayo and nightclubs
Is that to make the most money?
@unreal kayak from the nightclub yes. You are still asking about the nightclub right?
perhaps
you already have most of the money making stuff
cayo (kosatka), agency, office
now another great way to make money is crate and vehicle warehouses
I advise vehicle warehouse
if you have an office
but you must do the trick
Which car is better and fastest ocelot pariah or torero xo
@slender pivot imma stress more on this topic more in a YouTube video but I do t recommend getting the Kosatka first if you are a new player. A truly new player is not gonna know the game mechanics well enough to do well in any heist much less Cayo Perico where you can’t mess up or you’re screwed. I do think you should get it as early as possible but after really thinking about it I no longer think it’s best to get Kosatka first
he has the sub
also why are you talking to me lol
Pariah
Indeed and I read your message a few times over so i sorta take back my statement and I didn’t mean to attack you but also I was just fixated on why you listed it first
I saw some recent yt vids and xo won
what’s gta
~skill issue
Yo so I'm setting up the nightclub businesses and I've been on like at least ten hours since I've set them up and only have like 2 stock and I have it set up for 4 businesses. Is it just excruciatingly long or what
I have a office
just need a warehouse
but for now ill just grind agency
and cayo

Yes yes I am
yeah pack a few money and have fun 😄 we will be here to help you further on
Alright bet bro
Anyone know how to equip rebreathers in xbox
its not showing up on my intercation meni
Ok
If I want oppressor should I buy trade price or just 4 mil?
Straight up buy
The answer is no, dont buy an oppressor not worth the money
I got mine for full price cos i wasn’t bothered unlocking trade

What level are u
45
How much money u have
Do u have kosatka?
Ye
Or sparrow helicopter
I do cayo
I do
I have toreador as well
Hmm
Toreador is worth its money
Yeah
Whenever i chase people with toreador they get out and shoot my windows then i die
Thats why i stopped using toreador
Yea only downside
Do u havr buffalo stx?
It has missile jammer and bullet resistant windows
thats not a lot
its better than toreador
oh okay
Yea
Dog fight anyone any plane
Yes I takes about 3-5 real life days to fully stock the nc that’s if you afk for the entire time
Ello
what’s the funnest vehicle i got 11 mil and everything i need
I just came back to gta
coo
luxor deluxe
jk maybe pyro
ruiner 1000 lol
I’m taking a break from gta I’m burned out. I think I’m just gonna do weekly bonuses like the security contracts
ye i dont grind it
much
i play everyday for i think 1hr
bc cars
and be able to fly n boat too
all in one
Lol I play for about 5-8 hours a day
A number of things. Payphone hits, security contracts, maybe Cayo Perico, bunker ammunition contract, modify my cars, life and Deathbikes mc contract. A few other things
Either those things or I’m helping someone with things
no voting no vucking
vucking?
vuck
vuck
it’s some goofy shit going on in America right now
probably should have mentioned in gorilla chat
what’s the best bike for time trailers
lol
Damn that’s why the agency making so much
I thought that was normal
I wish the agency always paid that much
Is online working for everyone?
Yeah
Hmm. Then I gotta figure out whats wrong on my end. It's saying not available and keeps kicking me back to story. Thanks for the reply tho
hey guys
Hey
hru
I’m fine hbu
good
Nice
why is gta saying online services are down has anyone had this problem
Why does GTA think I'm going easy mode when I actually waited for a while for hardmode
It even said the heist would be in hard mode
the game thinks your not good enough for hard mode
@rotund raven just asking when you applied for criminal mastermind role, how did you prove it?
Video, awards whatever
@rough scaffold how did you show proof of you achieving cmm for the role
Whats the best supercar in yalls opinion
Peformance or looks?
Performance
The game i think classifies vigilante as a super car
i don’t even like the vigilante that much the handling is just so bad
i get the apeal tho
Haven’t been on gta in a few months and don’t know hoe to make money
get a job
To buy shark cards?
yeah
Good appeal but i was barely able to afford fixes for my stuff
I just need in game methods 😭
I alr have everything from the agency dlc and under
Hello chat 
do some agency missions, I believe they're double money this week
@short lake wanna play GTA today?
take a picture of your awards when you’re on gta and show the mods
Alright thanks a lot 👍
dog fight anyone
no
no
I think GTA 6 is going to have a feature where you need to go to the bathroom at least once per day cycle or else you crap your pants
i would personally love a girlfriend feature added in gta6
the higher ur in game balance the better specs girlfriend u can unlock
Best vehicle in ur opinion everything counts from motorcycles to planes and helicopters which one you use the most/u think is the best
Sounds like gold digger shit but Loving it
Agency security jobs alternated with ceo vip work headhunter
Ikr
Im gonna start calling you windows guy 🤣 there is almost no car with full bulletproof windows in the game, the one people use is glitched
Ramp buggy and some others, like weapon8zed tampa
Guys I am new here, I wanna join a crew to play, whats appropriate channel?
Exactly cayo only once in a while
You get the badge on social
I know now
They should place the streetlight hook to make curves that would be awesome
You kinda have 4 strippers...
Lfg
Other
recommend me some cars to buy which are not from warstock
Bruh... 😂 Got the cabonizzare, 10F, champion, tezeract?
kurama
what you have one?
buy another
Faggio? Shit is sweaty to drive
does my caracter have social anxiety
What for? Cars for protection, speed or handling?
just need a cool looking car
Buy the fura
@static shuttle got the furry milk?
yep got it 
You know when u think of something and in your thought think of something then you're in an endless loop of thinking of something
Can someone please help me get money
It is ok not that great
Maybe because you're sticking to one approach???
yeah lol
Then change it up
m'k
I mean if you stick to the same cayo approach all the time ofc youre gonna get bored, i usually change it up
i always do things like aggressive, grappling hook, whatever is there
And thats how i dont get bored
Ok
im not even caping 3/4 of my playtime is just driving and playing stunts with the homies
lol
lmao
and story mode
yeah i redo story if im very bored of online
I used to play gta san andreas but i just stopped because it never really had as many options as five and also cuz there are quite a lot of missions
lol
Lol
@unreal kayak how are u doing with the agency? Like it?
Anyone having trouble entering gta online on Ps4?
Not on PS. But it has been lagging in PC
How do i run the file checker?
i’m in a crew on my social club account but not in game?
It’s great my dude
Best purchase so far
If I alternate between that and cayo I can make a ton of money
#📁〢support/report , make ticket and show proof
Aight thx
I havent achieved it just wondering cuz im attempting it
Enjoy hell
On hard mode?, No deaths or fails?
Same people?
Alright
can u not mod the faggio anymore
so how much cash u got?
like 900k
i spent almost 2 mil on gto
but worth it
why 2 mil?
it's more like 1.7 mil
on what?
a ferrari called GTO in game
oh yeah, that shit look clean
you recommended me to buy fura next if im correct
yeah it's about 2 mil
yeh fura is also a pretty nice car, not as good as RSX but still pretty comparable with other supercars
1.7mil + 200k-400k for ur upgrades and stuff
wiki says it's 1.9, it's on sale rn?
idk i saw it 1.7 a few days back
lol i already have kreiger and pariah so i already have fast cars
so like, ITALI is gta ferrari?
Sup guys
yes
yeh u should consider getting some JDM or supercars like ingus and stuff
hm
Omg emrus is fastest
no way
Yes
Disagreed
Lets race i already tested it
Krieger is better
yk the funny thing is that cars like bullet is the fastest because it can brake boost
But in long race emrus gooo weeewwooooo
yeh u need better acceleration for winning a race also with a bit of acceleration and downforce in a looped/curved environment
Krieger has better handling and acceralation
kreiger has the best handling for it's speed
Lol everyone on so lets race
pariah is super quick but it oversteers too quick
Top speed emerus but top speed doesn’t matter in 99% races
yeh the backend is a bit heavy and tends to slip making it difficult to control that high speeds
a npc car has higher top speed if you do some physics exploits
True 😂
it's just like popping some tires and performing burnout starts
The fastest vehicle in the entire game is hydra with the speed glitch
and curve boost also help too
that glitch is godly
lol
320mph
u can miss orb cannons
U can outrun missles
the vetol mode on hydra is pretty useful
u sent a clip of that right?
I use hydra for speedrunin stuff
yeah in taliban
yeh i saw it
😂
Sure
So how’s ur day been guys?
meh not the best, hbu?
Unlucky af
What do u guys think of the new obey 10f?
NPCs love to crash into u
Trains love to crash into me
Train should be nerfed
It should be removed
a fucking jet can't even stop that shit
U can’t even ride it
it's back looks awful
i remember when i was able to stop the train through some stupid shit
It looks good imo but performance is 🤮
ayo
they think audi will compose a copyright if they made it too good
they always tend to mess up the backend of the cars
nah they could've changed the front to make it look better but the back is 🤮
Also the front end just look at the pfister 811
They ruined the 918 front
yeh but it is a very old car
Anyways bye guys imma go now
bye
i also gtg , bye
bye
There is an option in the system to do it cant remember where it is, i think it is in the launcher.
@wintry heron what's your sc?
Zoro1710
alr ill add you after some time
ok
Can anyone on Xbox with an oppressor help with my 5 terrobyte challenges?
this chats so dead now
How do I get liveries
you acquire them
some1 can help me with a marge glitch
how many people you need to get all painting for casino?
2
ok
How
by obtaining them
buy them..
Where
for cars right?
Yea
buy them at where it gets sold
u have an option in the menu of bennys/LSC/Agency workshop of liveries
just click on them and buy
Wha
if cant do that just leave the GTA
ya
not all cars can have liveries
ik but still it is common thing
most of cars do
Can’t find any liveries at bennys site
bruh u need to get the car in the benny's or LSC
Ah
Sir may i know what is ur age?
idk if he's dumb or if the car he's using doesn't have any liveries to put on
btw which car r u planning to put liveries on?
How many genders are there
May I know why it includes this
if u cant find them so it means they dont have one...
common sense
just 2 and this is a GTA chat not general chat
go to #💬┃gorilla-chat we got many ppl to answer u
Leave i understand ur position
wym?
I said forgot it..
Gta discussion I saw a man woman in gta with long hair and man face and beard
sending
I'm scared
based
ayo u r the one sending ppl to gorilla chat to talk about other things
Which is the best car under 2 million in gta online?
I already have that other than that?
pariah
depends on what type of car u need
pariah
Buy pariah but it is a bit hard to control
Sm722 or what was it
otherwise buy the vagner for 1.5 mil, it is the best supercar around a circular loop track under 2 mil
Is the cypher good?
cypher is a good looking car but the performance is meh
coming

Sports car
Fast
Good handling
Good looking
Under 2 million does anyone know a car like this?
super car named vagner from legendary it is a pretty good beginner car
skill issue if you can't control it
And what if i say a car under 3 mil then which one?
Lol i can control that car pretty well
Krieger
kreiger
toreador is 3.6 mil
Yeah ik
U cant use that in races uk that right?
Guys
@solid steppe inv me
Does my character have speech impediment
Cause
When someone talks to him he is silent and nods and smiles
Maybe a bit on anxiety
lol im in story mode rn
ohk
So toreador or Krieger @wintry heron
i am using my laptop so i have to drive in story mode for 5 mins to prevent texture loss
Toreador if u got the money
Ok
I never heard about that
Do u hve the toreador?
yeh
And the Krieger?
i am using hdd so it fucks up the textures
oh yeh, i forgot how it felt to play on HDD on a laptop 
lol
toreador is amazing
my laptop is 10x slower than my pc
Ohk u have it?
be sure to get it
Yea I do im level 45
Okay I'll get it as i hop on
oh sad, but why r u playing on ur laptop?
away from home?
Ooff
it was the 3rd thing I bought
lol i got a great break boost and then i immediately crashed
yep
makes sense
I'm level 63 and i still don't have the arcade lol
helps with cayo and agency missions so its good
you dont but its a fun vehicle
cause you have rechargeable boost
mk 2 has less accurate missiles compared to toredor
Indeed
Toreador is better than the insurgent pick-up right?
@wintry heron you in a session?
Ok
See the #🏎┃vehicle-flex sent a pic of the toreador
Ty for helping @wintry heron @solid steppe and @unreal kayak
np
np
np
Ok ty
I'm prob gonna buy it tomm
Yes
toredor is still better than insurgent
Ok nice
because of it's speed
The next vehicle i was about to buy was as it is for fun only
it's so fun trying to drive at super high speeds
So ig the toreador is fun and good for grinding
Will be your best friend in some cases
Okay nice
Toreador can also go into sumbermicle mode
so its great for that
can also be stored in kosatka
Ya and we can store it in the kosatka too right?
Yes
Yeah
And can be used in every heist except casino and perico finale
Every??
Yes cause its classed as a super car
Unlike the stromberg iirc
ist pretty amazing
Nice
@wintry heron so what we gonna do?
That's amazing to get to the other side of the map
Auto shop contacts too?
Yeah with garage glitch
Ohk
Its useful with agency as well
Sup guys
But thats applied to any other vehicle
Ty for helping y'all
Oh yea my bad
Like if they are in the passenger seat right?
Ye
Ya
But in driver seat u can use missles and machine gun obviously
Machine gun is pretty good
But u can get shot out of it quite quickly but its got a bit of resistance
@wintry heron im currently gathering intel
ok im also going to do gather intel
lol
we just killed the chat lol
@slender pivot Thank you again
Nothing to thank me for, thats why this discord exists (although some seem to have forgotten it)
Ill be sad when double money goes away
hope it stays
Me too. And it wont
So grind now
ok
wrong
Who knows? Dont expect it
@wintry heron holy shit my luck
les go
@wintry heron 3 gold guaranteed
nice
Hopefully
im back to island now
im in a session doing preps
nice im also gathering intel
should i use bst in a fight?
only if your opponent is using it
or if you're getting completely and utterly destroyed and want some form of advantage
dont do drugs it makes u weaker in future
@solid steppe so sry i gtg it is really urgent
If u will play more i will come back in 1 or 2 hrs max
ok idk if i will play in 2 hours but if you are back in an hour i will have all preps done
MERRYWEATHER HQ
FUCK ME DEAD
That prep is just cancerous
yeh try again it is like every 5 or 6 times u get the easy ones
Got it
Does anyone want to do the high end apartment heists e.g. prison break and u play on ps4 edition
what does the security intel prep actually do?
allows you to see the cameras
You can see all camera locations, no need to re do the prep unless u want to, very helpful especially silent and sneaky
Uhh who pinged me
oh
it is hard for me to come online again
so sorry
no worries
are you 2 doing cayo
guys
Or smth
whats the fastest way to earn money
I only have a ceo office bunker and counterfeit cash factory with no upgrades
I got 1.6 million
Can u buy a agency?
I need to get the submarine so I grind cayo perico then I buy warehouses vehicle warehouses and the rest
agency?
Yeah
whats dat
my sparrow keeps spawning in the same spot no matter where i am. does anybody know how to fix it?
ceo office or sum?
oh
and like you can do contracts
I would save up for the kosatka submarine
i wouldn't
buy an arcade and do casino
I need 600k more
y’all ever have the glitch where u request both ur sparrow and ur kostka and it says ur kodatka is on land like on top of ur sparrow
isnt it better grind cayo perico?
Yup its very annoying
or I buy arcade do casino heist then buy kosatka
cayo gets boring quickly
yeah it fixes itself on its own normally
and payout can be similar
correct but its fastest way to make alot of money
incorrect
casino is faster if you get gold
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lmfao
i meant it pays more
how much does an arcade cost?
shark cards is obviously better
Not really, just do different approaches
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pretty useless tbh
money in a game is pretty useless tbh
other approaches are not that much better
spending money to get money in a game is useless too
well its not bad if you dont do cayo ALL the time
@solid steppe how much is an arcade
spending time to get money in a game is useless too
let me check
as a conclusion grinding games in general is useless
yes