Audioware release v1.0.0

[merry hearth]

🎉 I’m happy to announce that Audioware V1.0 is finally live! 🎊

🔈Audioware is a native plugin to play custom audios in Cyberpunk 2077, without REDmod. 🔈

You can add in your own audios, along with sound effects (volume, panning, start time, playback rate, etc). Audioware also come with some sensible defaults to make sound adjusts like you'd expect to, like what you’d hear if you’re swimming underwater or running past a loudspeaker.

Be sure to checkout the full guide with code snippets/demos videos : https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware
Then head over to the download section: https://github.com/cyb3rpsych0s1s/audioware/releases

Have fun !

Also a big kudos to: @violet shadow @half hornet @charred phoenix @edgy skiff

[dreamy grove]

Congratulations, this has been a long time in the works I know.

[merry hearth]

thanks

[chrome shore]

[merry hearth]

btw any feedback, positive or not, will be very much appreciated 🙂

[visual vapor]

amazing! Thank you so much for making this

[somber badge]

Hype

[plain mulch]

I laugh at "Play on audio emitter", good one
Haven't tried but it does look clean! Well done 👍

[merry hearth]

Play on audio emitter ? huh I lost the context

[plain mulch]

https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware/SPATIALIZATION.html#usage

[merry hearth]

ah yes you're french too I forgot 🤣🤣🤣

sacré Otis ^^

[native glacier]

Quel fun d'enfin pouvoir profiter d'Audioware avec la paire de mods de MisterChedda 😅 ! Merci beaucoup !

Had another question following mine from january (regarding Sending audio to Dualsense controllers) :
Can we mod haptics in through Audioware ?
On the DSX discord, a user posted a code snippet on how he implemented modded-in haptics for his own program (DualsenseY on GitHub) :

{
  "instructions":[
    {
      "type":8,
      "parameters":[
        0, // INT - Controller index
        "C:/game/bin/win64/haptics/effect.wav", // STRING - Path to WAV file (Must be a Stereo 48KHz IEEE Float PCM)
        1, // FLOAT 0-1 - Speaker volume
        1, // FLOAT 0-1 - Left actuator volume
        1, // FLOAT 0-1 - Right actuator volume
        1 // BOOL - Clear buffer (this will stop the currently playing effect, if set to 0 the effect will play after the previous one has finished)
    ]
  }
]

He uses extracted/dedicated audio files but I figured Audioware maybe could route vanilla audio instead.
(Live encoding might be needed depending on whether the file is of the right format I guess)

[native glacier]

@red path , eventually, maybe ?🤞

[merry hearth]

truth is, I have no idea how it works, wdym?

[native glacier]

I'm not the most technically knowledgeable user on this but (hopefully I won't oversimplify to the point i'd be talking crap) basically :

• Dualsense controllers have 4 audio channels exposed to the OS
• 2 are for the Haptic Feedback actuators (the controller "motors")
• 2 are for the controller speaker

Vanilla makes use of all of them but I've no idea how it actually works within red4

[merry hearth]

thing is, I'm not very knowledgeable about audio in general

I remember having seen channels in the sources though, around the codecs or the decoder

[native glacier]

Even bigger congratulations on Audioware then !

[merry hearth]

honestly there's a todo list long like the highway, so this kind of features would probably come last, unless someone steps in and make a PR for it

what I'd like to understand is that you want to automatically play sounds based on haptics feedback or?

[native glacier]

Been hoping for something like that for years so no problem, I totally get it

[merry hearth]

i've never used haptics on latest ps5, hence why i'm a bit dumb about it

[native glacier]

No, just playing files through the controller channels to have more haptic feedbacks than vanilla and more immersive sounds through its speaker

[merry hearth]

ah that's super interesting indeed

so when game support it, they reroute part of audio output to dualshock?

[native glacier]

For speaker, yes (holocalls sounds are duplicated through it)

For haptics, no idea how they make it work (it's quite dynamic)

[merry hearth]

what the library allows me to do is re-route audio to either emitters or tracks (+ sub-tracks)

I'm not exactly sure how to re-route it to a device, but I know a specific device can be set when configuring codec/decoder

[native glacier]

Sounds encouraging

[merry hearth]

that might be above my paycheck honestly, I'm not sure

[native glacier]

No worries

[merry hearth]

that's damn interesting though, but that sounds like another rabbit hole 😄

[native glacier]

For sure 😅

[merry hearth]

I prefer to tell you that it might never happen, to keep the expectations low, but you got me hooked

[native glacier]

No problem, no expectations, only high hopes 😉

[merry hearth]

what I want to support next are vehicles and weapons in the first time, because that's what people keep asking for

[native glacier]

Of course, as it should be

[merry hearth]

my second step would be scene dialogs, to facilitate creating custom quests

[native glacier]

(Do know I'd gladly participate to my humbly short extent should you need my help)

[visual vapor]

I love your nick 😄

[native glacier]

That's even better !

[visual vapor]

I'd just meant to pitch in here because we could really need wiki guides

I have auditory processing issues, so they won't be coming from me

[merry hearth]

there's always need for testing before releases, if you want to hang around

[native glacier]

Of course ! 😊

[charred phoenix]

For anyone paying attention to this thread--if you'd like to see an example of an implemented Audioware emitter script, you can check out the silly optional file for my silly gun mod. It causes vending machines to play a jackpot sound when dispensing a shiny new firearm. I wrote this specifically to help test Audioware for @merry hearth. https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/14004?tab=files

[charred phoenix]

... I fix my other busted ass projects :(

[charred phoenix]

I will do it tho, if you hold my hand and talk to me like I'm 5.

[visual vapor]

https://wiki.redmodding.org/cyberpunk-2077-modding/for-mod-creators/modding-tools/the-wiki
Does this help?

[charred phoenix]

I need a wiki for wikiing.

[visual vapor]

waaaay ahead of you, choomba 😂

[charred phoenix]

Nice, nice

[visual vapor]

but I'll absolutely hold your hand and walk you through the process if that means we get more guides

[charred phoenix]

Idk if I can do a guide, per-say. Maybe there's something else that's relevant which I can add it to?

[visual vapor]

there is next to nothing on audio modding

like. whatever you add, it will be more than we have

other than "you need redmod or audioware"

just dump whatever you can contribute somewhere on a page. the next person can go over it

[charred phoenix]

Alright, I'll see if I can give it a shot shortly.

[visual vapor]

Awesome ❤️

[merry hearth]

by the way Mana there's no need to write guides on Audioware there's already one : https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware/ 😉

[merry hearth]

well "no need" I express myself poorly... I mean it's always good to have more docs ofc, but the one I wrote is pretty good to get one started I think

[visual vapor]

glorious, please link it 😄

[merry hearth]

but feel free to add more docs, contributions are welcomed 🙂

[visual vapor]

on the wiki 😄

[merry hearth]

like create a wiki entry to link to my wiki you mean? 😄

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-woah-inception-gif-9385775

Wiki Inception ™️

[visual vapor]

yeah 😄

this is how the sound category looks ilke

I don't mind the knowledge being over at your place rather than on the wiki itself at all, might even be a good thing (decentralized repositories for when the robot apocalypse comes)

but there should be very prominent links to direct people there

right now, the average audio modding experience looks like this:

prospective modder: Hi, I want to do audio modding :)) How does that work?
chat: crickets
eventually, me: I have auditory processing disorder and honestly couldn't tell you, but there are a few wiki pages and the #audio channel!
prospective modder: thank you!
prospective modder: <disappears and is never seen again>

I just want to funnel them towards the actual resources 😄

[merry hearth]

ok, but I'm not very knowledgeable about audio as I said earlier. the only thing I start to grasp a better understanding about is how the game funnels event to the internal Audiokinetics vanilla audio engine. more specifically how to detour audio requests away from Audiokinetics to forward them to the underlying audio engine I rely on (kira is its little name). not sure how useful this knowledge is 😄

[visual vapor]

Yeah, but you have this

I'd wager it will probably cover 90% of audio modder needs right now 😄

[charred phoenix]

I wrote you a guide, @visual vapor.

It's like, awaiting your approval, or whatever.

[visual vapor]

you're the bestest ❤️ ❤️

[charred phoenix]

It's np. I think I want to make a couple tiny adjustments tho. I can edit it and resubmit, right?

I'm going to test slightly more and add source files.

[visual vapor]

absolutely :))

[charred phoenix]

I see you merged it, thanks. Did you read it, btw?

[visual vapor]

I briefly skimmed, don't really have the spoons to dig into something new

it seems comprehensive! 🙂

[charred phoenix]

You said it would help an audio tutorial to be accessible to noobs, so that's kinda what I was going for.

[visual vapor]

absolutely :)) I had the impression that you just need to code along and will see results, which is exactly what people need

the first fix is free etc.

[charred phoenix]

Cool. Thanks for checking it out.

[visual vapor]

thanks for writing it, and welcome to team-wiki

[charred phoenix]

Yeah I saw the flair on my Discord profile. 😮 🥳

[charred tinsel]

@merry hearth
Last version of Audioware

[2024-09-04 22:34:24.977] [RED4ext] [warning] An unknown exception occured while calling 'Main' function with reason 'Unload', exported by 'audioware'

Is that normal ?

[charred phoenix]

If you'd like, I can take a look at what you have in your manifest, reds files. I might notice something wonky.

[merry hearth]

nope

[merry hearth]

i don't have time to look at ur files rn, please describe the problem seen, aside from the logs

btw for issues you can report them on Github instead of here 🙂

[charred tinsel]

The only mod that i use is Mr.Chefda’s Ah Shit Here We Go Again …

Not having any side effects (that i notice) except the errors/warnings in the logs

So, i cant give you anymore info than that but i’ll keep an eye on it

[charred tinsel]

Sorry about that, i will report them on GitHub.

This was the first one that i found

[charred phoenix]

Audioware doesn't do anything by itself. Does that mod utilize it?

[charred tinsel]

Yea

[charred phoenix]

You should let the author know in a comment.

Like, on the Nexus page. Or send a PM. Whatever they prefer.

[charred tinsel]

Ok, i’ll do that
Thanks

[charred phoenix]

Audioware is basically new tech at the moment, so authors are all figuring it out.

It'll be a minute before things settle down.

[charred tinsel]

I am well aware … i am at that stage to

[charred phoenix]

Cool cool

[charred tinsel]

@edgy skiff
Look up, 👆

[merry hearth]

i'm not currently in front of sourcecode @charred tinsel but usually:

[2024-09-04 21:41:35.321] [audioware] [error] couldn't reclaim stopped sound(s) in storage(s): Internal error: static sound handles contention

means that cleaning up unused sounds (stopped) could not be performed, but they are reclaimed at intervals so it's not important if there's a miss every-now-and-then

[2024-09-04 22:34:24.977] [RED4ext] [warning] An unknown exception occured while calling 'Main' function with reason 'Unload', exported by 'audioware'

this one on the other side, usually happens on game exit, am i right?
i didn't get for a while but i'll look into it

the more context u can provide @charred tinsel, the easier it makes fixing it

[merry hearth]

no worries, feedback is always appreciated

[charred tinsel]

I cant give more info since the mod that is using Audioware … only has one line whenever you get into the game or reloading a save where V is saying “Ah shit, here we go again” … doesn’t do more than that … so there is no much testing needed

On the other hand, if you point me where to look for or what should i do, or what to pay attention to, i’ll dig it for you … or it might simply need author’s touch.

[merry hearth]

what i meant is :

• does it prevent you to play ?
• does it create audio distortion or any kind of misfunction ?
• does it crash your game during playthrough ?
  btw i'm the author

[charred tinsel]

Yes, i know that you are the author 😉

It doesn’t prevent me to play
It doesn’t crash the game
I might have some distortions and sound skips (sound goes off for a second and comes back - but not pointing fingers just yet, as i have to REALLY check it)

[charred tinsel]

right ...
The warning in the Red4Ext log is happening when i quit the game and Red4Ext is unloading the mods and is stopping at Audioware

Here is the whole log

[merry hearth]

i'll look into it when i get time but, past the logs annoyance, if it does not prevent you from playing that's the most important

[merry hearth]

ok got contention issues fixed on my branch + warning on game exit fixed upstream,
waiting for upstream merge there should be an update tomorrow @charred tinsel @misty summit

[charred tinsel]

Thanks, appreciate it!

[merry hearth]

lemme know how it goes 🙂

[charred tinsel]

So far, so good ... cant complain
Errors/warnings are gone (good sign) ... still have some issues that i am trying to solve (which are somehow ODD - to say so)
Funny thing is that they come and go and is nothing that i can reproduce and yea, they are Audio related (to some extent) ...

Now come the hard part ...
How bad does Audioware conflicting with RadioExt ... why i say this ... well, let me explain

Both mods on their own are fine, no issues whatsoever ... but having them both installed ... Listening to radio and driving around, i have various sounds interfering (screams, shooting, aerial vehicles, another radio and the list can go on) ... but then, checking both mods logs, there is nothing in there ... go no other mods (audio) than the ones mentioned before ...

So yea, i am trying to sort it out somehow.

[merry hearth]

okay so from my own tests in-game, I noticed that there's some interferences whenever a lot of sounds get to be played simultaneously:

for example, during combat when foes are screaming, bullets are shot from everywhere, and combat mix plays in the background, if I play multiple musics with audioware I can hear some variations in the overrall audio output.

what I assume it is, is both audio engines "competing" for audio output, resulting in strange volume variations.

now this happens on my low-end laptop speakers, but when I discussed it in DM with @native glacier, they mentioned having no noticeable related issue whatsoever (ThisChord I mention you so you can actually step-in and provide explanations or correct me if ever I misunderstood).

finally what about RadioExt ? I personally don't know because I've never installed it. I usually play with a very small set of mods (currently mine + all audioware-based mods e.g. Beep Beep MF).

that being said, audioware also has a related setting that can help: you can install mod_settings and configure its buffer size in mod's menu (requires restarting your game afterwards) to improve overall audio output. I use 512 on my laptop, but it depends on your hardware.

[native glacier]

Interfering/conflicting can mean so many things in audio..
For "conflicts" with RadioExt, best to provide a recording with all those sounds playing at the same time (please, no downmixing if you're playing on a multichannel system) :
Only way to check whether it's perceptual only because in some scenarios, you'd have a spatialisation problem as RadioExt only plays everything as if you had a desktop media player opened - meaning all sounds are "in-your-face", so if other mods are playing through Audioware this way too, not on/from in-world emitters like Android_Malfunction does, that'd be like playing several songs at the same time with said media player without any proper mix : a "conflicting" mess.
Vanilla is pretty good at spatialisation overall except for some weirdly designed and applied effects but then it's unlikely to conflict with either RadioExt or Audioware.
Both playing simultaneously and in-your-face is another story, hence needing recordings to get a grasp of it.

Personally, android_malfunction does have its sounds blended in quite convincingly (maybe a tad too loud in some circumstances though - user facing settings for adjustable volume per mod audio output in mod settings would be quite nice and useful Roms 😉 even though best practice is for mod provided audio files to be normalized to vanilla levels in the first place) with the world sounds even in messy auto-driven car combat chases at 5 stars with loads of SFX

[charred tinsel]

Yea, i do have Mod Settings installed and i did set it to 512 even 1024 (there is no difference) ... the amount of sounds coming trough from all sides is literally crazy

Here are 2 examples of such occurrences, which i found them to be very ODD

in the first video, radio is barely audible and is on ... and the second, radio is off .. but i have radio coming on from whatever source

[native glacier]

Thanks 🙂 First one sounds "normal" (as in vanilla behavior) to me :
You're in a loud messy sounding area - though it's quite annoying at that point indeed - and radio (be it radioext's or vanilla's with that grimes tune) simply sounds like it's being drawned out by surroundings (no idea what your in-game audio volumes are set to though - big factor)
Second one I've never had to such a big extent but I'm definitely having it frequently - no RadioExt/Audioware needed for it to happen but I do have Better Vehicle Radio (which I suspect might be causing this) and even with radio off, there are some moments where something plays (as if it was sticking to you - no spatialisation and no fading out if you move around + FPP and TPP sound the same when they shouldn't with vanilla radios)

[native glacier]

I'd generally keep it to Auto, but depends on what is responsible for auto setting buffer size and what elements it takes into consideration for doing so.
Though we're getting in the me-not-quite-understand territory of digital audio there.
But theoretically, unless there are cracking sounds or audio cutting out issues, the buffer size shouldn't be of any matter or concerns.
Certainly wouldn't affect either quality or volume anyway

[merry hearth]

maybe i missed something, i couldn't hear any sound played by audioware in these samples.
how is it related ?

[charred tinsel]

The OLY Audioware mod that i have, it only plays a sound when getting into the game (on load or reload - that is all)

[merry hearth]

so you probably have Ah Shit, Here We Go Again I guess, but it's not played in these videos

[charred tinsel]

that is correct

[merry hearth]

so difficult to say if it sounds off or correct

[charred tinsel]

i said that 😄

[native glacier]

Legit assumption having both RadioExt & Audioware could cause issues when you hear such a messy environment.
I don't think it's related but ynk.
Another mod of MisterChedda's, Ambient Sound Mixer does affect sounds (eg. spatialisation of vegetation sounds when driving through/around them in the badlands) even with none of its options enabled so there's always some unknowns

[charred tinsel]

well ... this where it becomes funny, without Audioware ... i have none of those and no, i dont have Ambient Sound Mixer

[native glacier]

Yeah, saw you didn't have it but just saying.
Could do a comparison capture of the messy first example with/without Audioware to hear that difference? 😊

[merry hearth]

the thing that i probably cannot overcome at all technically (simply because it's out of reach), is the "conflicting" mess that you explained above. but aside from that it should sounds pretty good already.

[charred tinsel]

you have the one with Audioware installed already ...
i'll do one without

[native glacier]

To some extent, you could add panning and filtering options to users so they could adjust (for very barebone mixing) between various Audioware mods (on top of the levels idea), this could help alleviate some of the mess but not all of it of course.

[merry hearth]

the modders already have access to panning, volume and more.

it's not that adding them to settings on a per mod basis is impossible, but i foresee that it would add unnecessary complexity both on players side and in my codebase.

[native glacier]

Codebase for sure but modders can't try users' individual setups (both audio hardware configs & software settings, as well as Audioware mod list + in-game scenes), users should have some control to some extent eventually (when hopefully many Audioware mods will exist and such hypothetical situational issues may occur)

[charred tinsel]

there you go ... this is without Audioware

[merry hearth]

it's difficult because :

• how do you adjust audio for each if there's e.g. 100 audioware mods installed ?
• how do you adjust audio if there's no sound currently being played (that would require preloading a random sound from each mod in the settings page, and not even sure mod_settings supports creating a custom UI interface)
• you necessarily create some performance overhead if everytime audioware plays a sound it has to retrieve current mod related to the sound being played + apply specific sound effects like volume and panning

[native glacier]

Thanks, will have a listen after lunch

[native glacier]

• Like you would in a DAW but in mod settings (sounds like more than a chore, I know)
• You just do, you don't have instant feedback to your change (which sucks ik but same goes for modders devving their Audioware mods, doesn't it ?)
• Biggest concern indeed and best argument against such features

[merry hearth]

DAW ?
no modders can use scripts to adjust their audio while they dev.

[native glacier]

Digital Audio Workstation
Oh, neat ! Glad for them, that's one big relief

[merry hearth]

i couldn't hear any audioware sound being played too

[native glacier]

But can you hear the mix changing in any way ? I'm on my phone so there's no point listening right now

[merry hearth]

well, people are welcome to contribute if they feel like rebuilding a complete UI

[merry hearth]

not really but my speakers are really low-end

[charred tinsel]

the most part that i can point out, is compare the last part of the vid, wit the video that i sent it earlier ...

That is the major difference

[merry hearth]

i can't hear any noticeable difference, but maybe it's due to my hardware

[charred tinsel]

compare this 2 vid
1st with audioware

2nd without

[native glacier]

Pretty sure the random radio playing despite being off is due to Better Vehicle Radio (or vanilla if you don't have it installed), keyword being "random"
Been having it for 10 months now

[merry hearth]

audioware does not support (nor touch anything related to) radios yet, so it's unrelated

you should remove your other mods and isolate the one that causes it

[charred tinsel]

no radio mods installed, EXCEPT RadioExt
and i repeat ... with Audioware i have random radios coming on and off and without is all good ... been saying this since the beginning and i can reproduce it 10000000% at any given time

[merry hearth]

it's strictly impossible, sorry

[native glacier]

Audioware might be a revealer of the issue somehow (redengine's audio parts are so undocumented you can't know for sure what mess CDPR cooked in it)

[merry hearth]

audioware do not interact with red engine, so this is impossible too

[charred tinsel]

well ...i have no other options, than give up on Audioware and mr Chedda's mod

[native glacier]

Oh, interesting

[merry hearth]

everything is written in documentation

[native glacier]

Yeah but I'm no modder as you know 😉

[merry hearth]

your problem probably comes for radioext since it interacts with radios-related code

[charred tinsel]

still irrelevant ....
as this is not happening without Audioware
The moment i install Audioware, got all these radios and random sounds coming in front of me at random

[merry hearth]

try with audioware and without radioext

otherwise it's not really a fair comparison

[charred tinsel]

clearly someone reads between the lines ... sorry for being sarcastic (or whatever you might think)
#1279967177285435446 message

[pallid topaz]

DBK

So far, so good ... cant complain
Errors/warnings are gone (good sign) ... still have some issues that i am trying to solve (which are somehow ODD - to say so)
Funny thing is that they come and go and is nothing that i can reproduce and yea, they are Audio related (to some extent) ...

Now come the hard part ...
How bad does Audioware conflicting with RadioExt ... why i say this ... well, let me explain

Both mods on their own are fine, no issues whatsoever ... but having them both installed ... Listening to radio and driving around, i have various sounds interfering (screams, shooting, aerial vehicles, another radio and the list can go on) ... but then, checking both mods logs, there is nothing in there ... go no other mods (audio) than the ones mentioned before ...

So yea, i am trying to sort it out somehow.

Quoted by dbk01 from #Audioware release v1.0.0 · Sep 11, 2024, 11:09 AM

[merry hearth]

then pick whichever you prefer

if both conflicts

[charred tinsel]

well ... i cant
As both are using audio ... but they don't do same thing
i cant listen to my own radio with Audioware only

[merry hearth]

not yet, you're correct

[native glacier]

There no difference in spatialisation nor volumes in the first part of it (idea was to have radio playing like in the first one though).
At the end, you're just not having it playing when off like you had before in the second one you posted.

I really think it's coincidental : like I said that very bug I've been having for months way before Audioware was installed on my end, and it's completely random (could never pinpoint a location triggering it nor other conditions)

[charred tinsel]

Thanks.

And don't get me wrong ... got nothing against your mod or anything
I love seeing people coming with new things and from my point of view, is verry well welcomed, but since they don't do same thing and for the fact that both are using Audio channels ... clearly something, something is messed up somewhere in between ...

[charred tinsel]

Fine ... i quit ...
seems that i am incapable to see a diference here

[native glacier]

If you're the kind of user/modder taking notes whilst playing, please don't quit and try to log as much info you can for this bug, I wouldn't be surprised it's yet another CDPR mess as a root cause

All I can say is it never happens on foot

With radioport off I mean

[merry hearth]

no worries, no need to ruin your game sessions, no hard feelings: just pick RadioExt for now and maybe reconsider Audioware at a later point if I have time to add support for radios and custom playlists

[charred tinsel]

Man is not ... it just as simple case in that that junction
where with Audioware i have radio coming on (random radio every time - with the radio set to off)
And that is not happening without Audioware ...
Simple enough now ?

[native glacier]

Simple as a read but considering other elements on my end, makes it even more complex to grasp

[merry hearth]

maybe it's just an incompatibility with RadioExt, that's it

[charred tinsel]

that is exactly what i was trying to point it out ... not to blame anyone or anything 😦

other than those hiccups, i have no issues whatsoever ...

Audioware does what needs to be doing (same as radioExt) ... but for whatever reason, they cant coexist under same roof

One of the Authors (either you or Wheeze) ... need to find a solution to this, or both sit together and see what is what

Its understandable that Audioware is still WIP and that is why i got nothing against that ... just trying to do my part and bring you my findings

[native glacier]

So if it helps, hopefully it will eventually, I can tell RadioExt never needed to be installed either for the rando playing when off bug to happen on my end

[charred tinsel]

@merry hearth

Another finding (while i was doing a Mod Settings menu for one of my mods)

Audioware hangs at game exit
Launched the game to check main menu for Mod Setting with the changes done to my mod, get back in the menu and quitting the game, the game hangs in Task Manager until forced to close/exit

Can be reproduced, just Audioware on his own with no other mods that depends on it

if you need, i can make a video for that to

[native glacier]

Still with the crash reporter "disabled" I guess ?
With it enabled, hangs for a few seconds then I get the CP has flatlined popup

[charred tinsel]

do you have In World Navigation ?

[native glacier]

Not anymore, no

It's an Audioware related crash (1.0.3)

[charred tinsel]

that is the only mod that crashes at exit

[native glacier]

Not anymore it seems

[charred tinsel]

still crashes ...

but yea ... i get no popup, it just hangs in there untill is killed from task manager

watch the vid on "how i did it"

there you go ... you can see it here

[native glacier]

Seems identical except you don't get the flatlined popup

[native glacier]

Process at 0% CPU utilization is the same here

[charred tinsel]

so ...is a known bug?

[native glacier]

Roms has no idea for now, he doesn't have it with release build of 1.0.3

But updating the library on dev build seems to cause it for him

Yet another curious one

[charred tinsel]

so i am not the only one here having this crazy thing ...
i don't want to say something that is not

let me check ... i might have left the reporter disabled

but dont think so

no, is not

is there

as when i get in game crashes it does pop up

[native glacier]

Sh*t, as if it wasn't complex enough already 😅

Glad I'm no dev...

[charred tinsel]

might be related tho

[native glacier]

Pretty confident it is

[native glacier]

@charred tinsel , Have you looked into eventually converting your main menu theme replacer mods into an all-in-one variant using Audioware?
Could then bypass the 2min and some seconds limit if you can also make it get rid of both vanilla V and character creation themes. The latter of which could still be set to play on a fading loop (like vanilla does) after initial one has actually finished playing entirely (or with optional fading as well)

[charred tinsel]

yea, i did had a look at that 😄
BUT ...

the sound is bad 😐

[native glacier]

Uh, how so ?

[charred tinsel]

at least 20% lower

[native glacier]

Interesting

[charred tinsel]

does not have the same volume
my mod vs Audioware

[native glacier]

Meaning the game might be applying normalizing logic in its engine then

[charred tinsel]

i am missing quite a few good decibels there

[native glacier]

I doubt it's wkit doing that

[native glacier]

Even if using gain parameters I'd guess Audioware has ?

[charred tinsel]

got nothing to do with wkit ... as i used the same file that i've done it with wwise

[native glacier]

Should be an "easy" thing to get improved by Roms though, doubt it's anything else than gain

[charred tinsel]

increasing the gain ... distorts the sound ... quite badly

[native glacier]

Shouldn't if done properly, clipping is sign something isn't handled correctly

Otherwise you wouldn't have the standalone version sounding louder without clipping

[charred tinsel]

is not clipping ...
if i got the time, i'll redo it tomorrow and show you what is all about

But then, from an archive mod that has no dependencies ... jumping to 5 ... not quite ideal

[native glacier]

What you call distort can only be clipping

You're in digital environment, distortion only can be achieved with discrete hardware components

[charred tinsel]

is not ... i know what i mean ...

is not crackling either

its "laggy" ... sounds more appropriate

[native glacier]

Curious to listen to it eventually

Interesting topic and potential roadmap item for Roms

[charred tinsel]

indeed it is ...
like said it before ...
love the innovation ... and i don't hold back ...
i follow the GitHub since February (i think)
so yea ... i do look forward to it

[native glacier]

Oh sure (none to 5 dependencies)

[charred tinsel]

well ...its audioware + 4 dependencies for 1 sound that can be done without any dependencies 😐

The balance is kinda off, don't you think ?

[native glacier]

I do, yeah. Although the counterpoint is hassle-free modularity and on-the-fly choice of how many tunes now, 30 ?

[charred tinsel]

totally agree with you ... but doing all 30+ in one mod for you to choose from, means that you have to restart the game to hear for that sound ... not quite ideal ... IDK 😕

[native glacier]

• bypassing the limit (biggest win zs it's frustrating when it fades something you'd want to listen to entirely)

Not quite ideal but limit bypass balances it out imo

Though, as always with me, just sawing idea seeds (many of which modders already have had, as demonstrated here 😅)

[charred tinsel]

hmmm ... yes and no
i'll probably test the waters again a bit later ... as for now, 5 dependencies are putting me off

[native glacier]

Understandable 😉

[charred tinsel]

literally, since 1.3 .... main menu music has not changed ....
hence, why "fixing" something that works?
i do get that you can use any length song and that ... but still

[native glacier]

From 1.0 even, iirc

Because one can 😜 no but seriously I do get your point. It'd be mostly nitpicking to actually want/need that, better spend time playing than browsing main menu

Hope adding dependencies won't be of too much concern for New Dawn though, whatever you might be cooking for it

[charred tinsel]

waiting for Codeware, need some new types implemented ... but what can i do?
when is ready, is ready 😐

[native glacier]

Looking forward to it anyway, no rush

[charred tinsel]

me to ...
i feel sorry that i released it so soon ...
i taught that i will have those types sooner 😐

[native glacier]

Don't fret it, at least you haven't canned it out of spite, so thanks for the longest anticipated surprise discovery mod 😉

[charred tinsel]

well ...
you're welcome ....
but still ... to soon
i was to excited for it 😐
Sorry again!

[winter hare]

I want to know the trigger for sound playback in the audio ware developed so far.

[merry hearth]

as of now, playback can only be statically set in YAML, or right before playing sound with https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware/AUDIO_SETTINGS_EXT.html

[winter hare]

It's still not possible to make sounds play specifically when firing a certain weapon or during weapon switching, right?

[merry hearth]

correct

[merry hearth]

that being said if u're comfortable with Rust and Redscript, u're welcome to contribute on Github 🙂

[winter hare]

I'm sorry... I'm not familiar with scripting; I just dabble in amateur Photoshop and some material work...

It would have been really great if it could be linked with conditional statements in tweak data...

[merry hearth]

how would you see it?

[winter hare]

TD?

[winter hare]

Is creating things like that what Audioware does?

[merry hearth]

not really, you can find explanations there:
https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware/CONCEPT.html

[winter hare]

Where can I find the section under "prereq" in the tweak database?

[merry hearth]

can you be more accurate? i don't understand your question

[winter hare]

If specific conditions are met -> sound is played / this kind of functionality doesn't work, right?

[merry hearth]

it's not that it doesn't work, it's that it's not implemented this way

that being said nothing prevents you from doing it yourself

basically using your own IPrereq + custom Effector

[winter hare]

Custom effector?

Is there an example of this?

[merry hearth]

i have an incomplete example in my other's mod documentation:
https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/4ddicted/patterns/effectors.html

basically you create your own class that extends Effector (or one of its descendants), then you simply play your sound (see audioware's guide).
don't forget to define it on your Effector_Record (or appropriate descendant) witheffectorClassName

[winter hare]

I'm sorry. I don't know how to use RED, so I was trying to refer to your mod. Which file contains the example used at the address?

[merry hearth]

search for the keyword Effector

[winter hare]

Ummmm..sorry...I searched in the following area, but there are no results.

[merry hearth]

then search on the main branch of Addicted's Github repo, or even throughout other mods files on Nexus

[merry hearth]

if u want to keep talking about effectors, let's move to private msg (feel free to reach me out) because this thread is supposed to be dedicated to audioware's feedbacks, not Redscript scripting or game systems 🙂

[random forge]

@merry hearth yo, I tested the version 1.1.1 from the repo you've updated few hours ago and it's still doing CtD on exit

[merry hearth]

yep we saw it

[merry hearth]

there should be a 1.1.2 shows up in around ~15min or so, please give it a try

tested on my side with Addicted, ShitHereWeGoAgain, AndroidMalfunction and Slaughtomatic installed
both in debug and release modes

[random forge]

I'll test it a bit later on my end. There are also few things I noticed while I was implementing it in my project. One of them is leading to another CtD:

When I was testing Dynamic Settings (https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware/AUDIO_SETTINGS_EXT.html) it worked fine but it was crashing on save reload.

[merry hearth]

ok, thanks for reporting back

a player told me he still has the bug but i don't, it's actually hard to reproduce

[merry hearth]

any particular steps you took when testing?

[random forge]

I made few test functions to test Play() and Stop() from AudioSystemExt.
First one was without optional arguments, and each consecutive was with one more opt arguments.

In testing procedure I loaded the save, triggered test function, waited a bit and reloaded. Play() functions with up to 3 arguments passed the test. 4th function was the one mentioned above. Same procedure as before and it crashed. Here I reloaded the save, played it again and used Stop() on it and hit load save. Still crashed.

I tested few variants of settings but same outcome on reload.

[merry hearth]

would you mind setting the variable holding the ref<AudioSettingsExt> to null before reloading a save, and see if it still crashes?

you can reach out to me in dm too, if there's need to share more details or code samples

[merry hearth]

ok i got it too, i'll investigate thanks

[random forge]

I tried it, but still crashed

[winter hare]

I intended to register a sound in Audioware through this file and then play it via the tweak database. Will this redscript work?

[merry hearth]

you never trigger ur callback so nothing will happen, but otherwise yes it will work. don't forget to specify ur emitterName too.

[winter hare]

Is it impossible to make what was added with the script work with the TweakDB (Tweak Database)?

[merry hearth]

sadly no, because we can't create custom TweakDBReford as far as I remember

that's something i'd have liked to do too

[winter hare]

You previously made the status effect play a sound in Addicted, right? Could you tell me where that part is located in the mod?

[merry hearth]

i'm the phone, i'll check and link a bit later. but from ur sample file it's perfectly legit to use a custom PlaySFXEffector.

[merry hearth]

Addicted currently has work in progress, but you can check it there https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware/AUDIO_SYSTEM.html and https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware/AUDIO_SYSTEM_EXT.html

it's not really any different than playing a vanilla sound with the vanilla AudioSystem 🙂

[winter hare]

Will this code work for a specific status effect?

[winter hare]

https://youtu.be/3U5LW8THhF8?si=BHoZPC4XUXcSq1YP

[winter hare]

The code keeps causing crashes, and I can't figure out why. Others say it should work fine...

[merry hearth]

if u look at the guide and Ext.reds in the files, there's no PlaySound method.
have you tried with Play ?

[winter hare]

audioware.PlaySound(StringToName("mimicry_2")? this part?

[winter hare]

ah, my audio ware problem

[winter hare]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/16073?tab=files

[merry hearth]

Hi guys @random forge @winter hare @charred phoenix @edgy skiff (and the other ones that I forgot to mention) i'd like some feedback from the commu:

I'm working on next release for audioware and @arctic kettle discovered some confusion during their tests when using spatial emitters : currently audioware allows multiple mods to use the same emitter independently as long as it has been previously registered by any mod. That also creates some confusion since basically the first mod which registers the emitter is the one that dictates which EmitterSettings this emitter will have for the rest of its lifetime (these are not dynamic and can't be changed at runtime).

So, first and foremost my question is, would you expect:

1. that only one mod can register and use an emitter at a given time ?
2. that only one mod can register but multiple mods can use it afterwards ? (as of currently)
3. that each mod can register an emitter with different settings and use it independently ?

Please bear in mind, especially if you're about to pick 3. that spatial emitters handles are limited to 32: this value can be increased on plugin initialization (can't be changed at runtime), but using a large number of emitters simultaneously will necessarily negatively impact performances (and potentially leads to audio artifacts).

[native glacier]

2. But Player should have control in mod settings as to which one it should be ?
   Just a user opinion (sorry if that's stupid)

[random forge]

Yo, I'm leaning towards this: #audio message, but if not applicable option 2 might be good enough

[pallid topaz]

spirit

imo a hybrid approach between 2. and 3. would be best, where the mod can choose whether it is going to be using an existing one or create a new one, that way you get the compactness and resourcefulness of 2. while also keeping the option open for more customization if needed

Quoted by mrbill61 from #audio · Dec 12, 2024, 9:35 AM

[merry hearth]

took notes, I'll see if this is doable 👌

if other pep's want to voice their choice out, please do

[merry hearth]

any suggestion is worth sharing, yet in this regard it does not really make sense for gamers to choose since EmitterSettings dictates e.g. from how close/far a npc can be heard, etc.

it's more of a modder's setting to adjust the experience they want to bake for you 🙂

[fervent gate]

havent used audioware so far, but 3 seems the most logical to me

[charred phoenix]

3 is probably best, despite the limitation

[merry hearth]

the thing I can foresee, if picking 3 , is that people gonna use almost identical yet different params (especially distance) and exhaust all the resources, then come back complaining here

that being said, let's see (your help in testing would fasten the process) maybe going for a hybrid approach would work.

something like ReserveEmitter which fails if some other mod already registered the emitter, while keeping the original behavior of RegisterEmitter to pair to (and use) the existing emitter if already registered.

keep in mind that, at its core, audioware has to synchronize each and every emitter's handle position in the world in a <= 10ms loop without degrading performance or creating audio artifacts, so pairing and reusing handles makes sense.

[merry hearth]

I'll favor feedbacks from people who actually use it, but thanks for sharing 👍

[native glacier]

You haven't checked the headlights flash conflict with EVS either for your Extended & improved headlights.. please get to it

[fervent gate]

Very valid

[charred phoenix]

You could also have those potentially-different settings as arguments in a new play func and explain that the new play func is the more appropriate method, to ensure one's expected results.

[merry hearth]

you're right

what I was the most interested to know from your feedbacks is whether people want a dedicated exclusive emitter that no other mod can use (at least for as long as it's registered), or if people are fine sharing emitters once the settings issue is settled down.

of course, on my side, reusing emitters is my preferred way since it allows you to do more while consuming less ressources.

[visual vapor]

emitters

[merry hearth]

@visual vapor?

i didn't get it lol

[visual vapor]

A communism joke about "fine sharing"

[merry hearth]

indeed now that i can see bugs bunny and the symbols on a larger screen it makes more sense lol

[visual vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

[chrome shore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789711087158820864/1296160411254657144/Untitled_Export-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[merry hearth]

Hi everybody and merry christmas ! 🎄
As much as I wanted to prepare a neat release for Audioware, I realize I don't have the capacity atm to test and re-verify everything and every mod that depends on Audioware (that I know of) on my own so instead of postponing another X months, I released a v1.3.0 rn on Github which you can already test and provide feedback for.
There are minor breaking changes in the Redscript API as you'll find out, but should be easy to fix.
If overall everybody is satisfied, I'll push it to Nexus. Otherwise, I'll fix what needs to be fixed to the best of my ability and time available.

p.s: there's now 2 kinds of build in the release.
the one stated as DEV_ONLY provides more red4ext logs and supports hot-reload.
the other one is the classic release build that would eventually be pushed to gamers on Nexus (no hot-reload and only essential logs).

[merry hearth]

👉 follow-up: i've been reported an issue affecting release build, i be working on it.

[merry hearth]

👉 I got a first positive feedback saying that patch 1.3.1 fixes the previously reported bug on release build, so I encourage more of you to give it a go

also wishing you all in advance a wonderful New Year's Eve 🎉🎊😊🥂

[merry hearth]

👉 1.3.2 is available on Github and waiting for your feedbacks 😉

[merry hearth]

Hi everybody!

ℹ️ The audio engine on which audioware relies, kira, just got a big update 0.10.0 which brings more capabilities like e.g. reverb for spatial emitter(s). However, its API got some breaking changes and it will take some time before you get these available downstream in next audioware's version, so please be patient 🙏

💁 In the meantime, do not hesitate to provide feebacks about latest 1.3.2, so it can make its way to Nexus with confidence.

Take care!

[charred tinsel]

Take your time man !

[merry hearth]

given the lack of feedbacks, I simply pushed 1.3.2 to Nexus and we'll see how it goes

btw some of you will have to update their mod too

[merry hearth]

hi everyone! audioware 1.4.3 is now live on Nexus 😀

this version brings a couple of minor fixes + the ability to have sounds played on audio emitters be affected by reverb & presets, happy modding!

kudos to @edgy skiff @native glacier and @arctic kettle for testing it 💖

[charred tinsel]

A small report regarding Last version of audioware
Sometimes it stops for 1 second and starts again ... and the sound, sounds like 2 instances of Audioware are running (logs can confirm this as i have 2 logs just about 1 second apart)

If you need anything else, let me know.

Thanks!

[merry hearth]

what is ur video supposed to demo?

[charred tinsel]

same song playing twice

after reloading the save you can hear how song should normally be

[merry hearth]

ah ok i got it now

[charred tinsel]

[merry hearth]

thanks i'll look into it when i'll reinstall Cyberpunk, but u'll have to be patient, maybe in 1 or 2 months i'm on something else atm

[charred tinsel]

Is not something that i can reproduce 100% ... but it does happens 2-3 times a week

[merry hearth]

u're sure u're not just simply playing it twice? logs could simply be log rotation

[charred tinsel]

that is fine, i can live with a reload now and then

[charred tinsel]

cant play it twice ... same song from same radio
lol ... how ?

[merry hearth]

audioware does not support radio

so what does it have to do with audioware then?

[charred tinsel]

well then ... being the only audio source, i was thinking is Audioware
i wasn't aware that Radio is not included ... when you say Audio Engine, that means all Audio, no ?

i mean ... everything being "filtered" trough Audioware

[merry hearth]

nope

I haven't added support for radio yet since RadioExt already provides it

and Audioware uses a separate audio engine from the game

[charred tinsel]

all good then ... have to dig deeper and see what is what

[merry hearth]

do u have both RadioExt and Audioware installed together?

[charred tinsel]

i do, yes

[merry hearth]

ok then u know where to ask

[charred tinsel]

😂

wish me Luck

😄

[merry hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/good-juju-gif-16922911951109702032

[charred tinsel]

https://media.tenor.com/lXk-pvCPIQwAAAAM/shiit-sheesh.gif

Preciate your time and answers tho
Thanks !

[charred tinsel]

Out of curiosity ...
Why Audioware creates 2 logs less than a second apart sometimes?

[merry hearth]

it's a very generic question, would you mind being a bit more specific and let me know :

• which build? (normal or DEV_ONLY)
• which log? (no need to paste the entire file, simply the log that you're talking about)
• provide a (minimal) sample of your code calling Audioware (mostly to know if there's some scheduling involved, like DelayCallback)

it really depends tbh 🙂

[charred tinsel]

Thanks for coming back to me, 'preciate it !
The only mod that uses Audioware is Nitrous and the log that i am talking about is the one from Red4Ext
I haven't started the game today (if needed i can do so) and these logs are from last evening

They are both identical, just split second apart

just seen it now wile clearing the logs and i think i know what/why is happening.
The Audioware log is coming on a bit later than the other logs and when Red4Ext is doing the rotation (since there is no new log ) it won't delete the old one ...
(i might be wrong)

[merry hearth]

u're likely right it's something to do with logs rotation for sure

I can't remember the details from the top of my head, but I can have a look after work if it's important

[charred tinsel]

Not important, not at all, i was just curious (like said in the 1st place) … but i did answer myself (i think) - “Audioware seems to start after logs rotation”.
In case there is another answer to that, then yea, i would love to … as that delay is important when creating mods (working on some main menus ones).

[merry hearth]

logs rotation is handled either by RED4ext or red4ext-rs

as of the loading, i've actually considered making it asynchronous in the past, yet the author of Cyberscript reported me loading 796 IDs (btw each ID can be multiple sounds, e.g. for voices, onos) under 3.63 seconds so I deemed it unnecessary

especially adding asynchronous loading would add some overhead (it requires an async runtime), so i haven't given it any afterthought ever since

i can reconsider it at a later point, when people will start having thousands of sounds defined with audioware, but for now it's probably overkill

that being said, audioware already runs on a separate thread, so it's not blocking the game's when it launches

and the reason why it takes some time (while still doing it way faster than REDmod i've been told) is that audioware asserts a lot of the things defined in the manifests, to minimize potential error while playing the game, see https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware/MANIFEST.html#validation

[merry hearth]

not trying to say that it's a marvel of engineering 😄 but it's not the most naive either 🙂

as a side note (including to future myself ) i'm not actually sure async would bring such a boost in performance because some steps have to happen sequentially and the other ones are already parallelized where possible.

[charred tinsel]

oh, hell no ... i wasn't "moaning" at all (sorry, i couldn't help it 😄 )

was the curiosity on why there are 2 logs when i have it set to 1 on rotation ( don't need 75 logs in there - 15 mods x 5 logs each ) ... BUT, you can do it yourself from within Audioware, make an interrogation to look for logs at start, if found - delete the, if not create a new one

either way, i cant be fussed about it ... but what i was trying to do, it seems that it cant be done, due the fact that Audioware starts a bit later than the game

I was trying to make the audio starting with the game, go trough all loading and main menu ...
so yea ... these were all the reasons behind my questions.

Thanks for taking the time to answer to my query, 'preciate it!

[merry hearth]

ah this is normal because Audioware is a RED4ext plugin ultimately (no matter if it's written in Rust instead of C++), so it starts very early but still not right when the game does

then it needs the time to parse the YAML files and do some pre-validation

[charred tinsel]

yea, seen that myself

well, no luck then
wanted to try something "new" for once ... but is still not possible (yet)

works after Cyberpunk logo splash screen which i assume that is when Audioware gets into play

[merry hearth]

it's not a limitation of Audioware, it's the same for Codeware, TweakXL and basically all RED4ext plugins out there 🙂

[charred tinsel]

well then ... i am cooked 😄

[merry hearth]

sorry about that, I know what it's like 😅

[merry hearth]

it won't ever be possible though

[charred tinsel]

you don't have to apologize ... i didn't knew what are the limitations
but, i just found out

[merry hearth]

the only thing that would be possible would be to have specially defined sound that would be basically parsed and validated before all the others in one-go but it has its own quirks by definition

[charred tinsel]

what intrigues me tho ...
whatever i do, i cant replace the Main Menu Theme using Audioware ... either i am stupid, stupid ... or is not possible

[merry hearth]

the problem with allowing to define it this way is that it would be great for a unique mod, but I can't prevent multiple mods to define it this way, I don't know if you picture the issue

[charred tinsel]

yea, i get the point ...
no worries, is totally fine ...

[charred tinsel]

as i would love to have the whole song playing

[merry hearth]

yeah I actually wanted to replace the intro music with a cartoon one for fun last year

but there's a general problem when defining unique things (not in Audioware but in general) and this includes sounds replacements, a feature that i was requested a dozen of times

[charred tinsel]

Looney Tunes 😄

[merry hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes-cartoons-gif-25067683

[charred tinsel]

no wonder why was requested ... as we are still relying on old replace method - as we don't have other options

[merry hearth]

Audioware could already replace some audio by swapping them on the fly but the problem with this feature is which sound do you pick when e.g. mod A, B and C all want to replace the same sound with a different one each?

the only viable option, that i might implement later on, is to use Blackboard, which act like a global

[charred tinsel]

you think that will work?

[merry hearth]

it already works, this is how you can define reverb already

[charred tinsel]

i mean ... it could (in theory) ... but, people are people ... they want theirs to be 1st

oh, hang on ...
got it wrong then

[merry hearth]

true but there's nothing u can do about it

[charred tinsel]

sit a while and listen

hmmm
how about a menu for it (Mod Settings or whatever) where you can have like 20 sounds and you can choose which one to play, would that be somehow more feasible ?

[merry hearth]

this sounds feasible, but it would still kick-in slightly after Cyberpunk logo splash screen

[charred tinsel]

i taught thar we are over that ... and we are talking about the song that starts at Breach Screen 😄
no ?

[merry hearth]

ah sorry I didn't realize we jumped talking about Breach Screen 😂

[charred tinsel]

[merry hearth]

you can already do it for Breach Screen rn I'd say, it's already up and available by then I think

[charred tinsel]

yea, i got the point ... what i wanted to do, is not possible due the limitations that are out there
what i was saying, i was trying after to do the Breach Screen/Main Menu one ... to be able to play the whole song
and i repeat ... either i am stupid, stupid ... or is not possible
😐

[merry hearth]

just define it as a music and test to play it as soon as Audioware is ready

[charred tinsel]

do you have a template or something ...

as the info on wiki is quite vague, i would say

[merry hearth]

https://cyb3rpsych0s1s.github.io/audioware/SECTIONS.html#music

the wiki could be rewritten in simpler terms, but it has all infos already including YT video showcases

[charred tinsel]

hmmm and how you define it when to start ?

[merry hearth]

you would listen with Codeware for the menu spawning and play your song with Audioware (in Redscript or Lua)

[charred tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-reading-gif-18060591

[merry hearth]

I might even have an example somewhere, hold on...

[charred tinsel]

THAT will be 100000000 times more helpful

[merry hearth]

haha not me but Codeware itself : https://github.com/psiberx/cp2077-codeware/wiki search for the keyword "menu"

in 10 minutes I have to head off for work though 🙂

[charred tinsel]

class MyService extends ScriptableService {
  private cb func OnLoad() {
    GameInstance.GetCallbackSystem()
      .RegisterCallback(n"Resource/Ready", this, n"OnMenuResourceReady")
      .AddTarget(ResourceTarget.Path(r"base\\gameplay\\gui\\fullscreen\\main_menu\\pregame_menu.inkmenu"));
  }

  private cb func OnMenuResourceReady(event: ref<ResourceEvent>) {
    let resource = event.GetResource() as inkMenuResource;
    ArrayPush(resource.scenariosNames, n"MenuScenario_NewGamePlus");
  }
}

that is all ?

[merry hearth]

yeah, and inside the cb func you just Play ur song with Audioware

[charred tinsel]

noh ... that is ink menu .. .to add tabs to main menu

[merry hearth]

just adjust the example for the menu u're interested in

[charred tinsel]

i'll give it a go and let you know the outcome