Ultra+ 2.21 Patch Patch Patch Patch :)

[fallow thicket]

[plucky tulip]

mooahahah

according to gpt 4o they're 30% to 50% more diffuse during dusk/dawn

freaking done

[fallow thicket]

W you keep farming some Ws

[plucky tulip]

some Ws?

[fallow thicket]

wins

forget about it

[plucky tulip]

oh 😂

you'll only encourage me 😄

[fallow thicket]

ofc i am since i wanted this mods to be good and better

even so im not a modders im doing everything to support it

[plucky tulip]

ty i appreciate it

[plucky tulip]

number 5 is alive stephanie

[plucky tulip]

• Sun shadows are normally more diffused at dusk and dawn, Ultra+ now emulates this behaviour by adjusting the sun shadow sharpness throughout the day
• PTNext is now working without the separate denoiser - removed this setting from the front panel, it's still in Debug if you need it
• Added a few more quality settings to the perceptual auto-scaler. Ultra+ will try to adjust image quality subtly to hit your FPS target without you noticing
• Fixed a missing quality setting for RT-Only mode
• If the weather gets stuck, Ultra+ will now unstuck it for you

[long galleon]

You do have an option to hide these messages right? XD

[plucky tulip]

no 😄 would you like one

[long galleon]

You had said you would before =(

When I'm debugging other mods with the console it helps to be able to turn off messages from the mods I'm not debugging XD

[plucky tulip]

wooaaww

[plucky tulip]

oh, sure. okay i do it 😄

don't be sad hugs

😮

[plucky tulip]

here you go 😊

• Enable or disable console output
• Fixed a bug where the daytime logic wasn't firing

[patent minnow]

PTnext

so rtxdi off with ptnext

should RR be on?

[plucky tulip]

that's up to you

[plucky tulip]

i'm not sure what you mean by rtxdi off?

yes it's not used with ptnext 😊

[patent minnow]

with rr off everything looks sparkly and grainy and then with rr on everything look swierdly smoothed like plastic this normal idk sorry im new to the game

[hazy gazelle]

Wow, lot of cool stuff added lately. Great work. If I may ask, exactly what is ScreenScale? At a glance, I didn't see what changed between Insane or Low besides a slight FPS change, but I wasn't sure what to look for (truthfully, I'll probably just set it on Insane to match my PTNext setting, but I'm academically curious as to what it is)

[plucky tulip]

yes, RR looks like pastic

that's why some people prefer NRD (non-RR) 😊

but it shouldn't look grainy, i'll see what's going on

[patent minnow]

sweet

with no rr its grainy and filled with sparkles kinda idk

like noise or sm

like this

[fleet geode]

Film grain?

Anyway...
Not bad I guess. Regardless, RT+PT is still my favourite.

[fallow thicket]

same my fav is RT+PT

[fleet geode]

And performance I never have to worry about, not even in Dog Town

But the real reason for me is simply visuals, I'm picky that way.

[fallow thicket]

i dont like dog town anyway so idc

[hazy gazelle]

Yeah, with all the new stuff, I just took PTNext Insane and ScreenScale Insane (I'm still curious what that does) with all the rest of my mods to the Dogtown market and with frame gen it still runs great in there. Haven't felt the need to try the FPS Target feature, but I might just to see it in action. Exciting stuff; I oughta start playing more again

[patent minnow]

its off

[plucky tulip]

https://tenor.com/vhcF.gif

except NRD was working perfectly 😭

fix one thing break something else lol

[patent minnow]

confused

[fleet geode]

Target FPS setting and Scene Scale - I have it scale set to insane. Do I need a high or low FPS setting ideally for "insane"? (I want max quality regardless of FPS)

[plucky tulip]

"oh my God it's full of stars" is a famous quite from 2001: A Space Odyssey. you said it's filled with sparkles, so I'm just making a reference 😊

[vivid grail]

Yeah, well, you shouldn't be out on the streets after curfew
Bad citizen, make Kurt angry

[fallow thicket]

Kurt can go and do his own business I don’t have anything to do with it fuck myers in general

[vivid grail]

songbird

[fallow thicket]

with your LUT https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/12913?tab=files

@plucky tulip it looks awesome i hope u keep going on LUT

[plucky tulip]

I like it on "High" 😊

insane is actually often inaccurately bright

[fleet geode]

bright?

[plucky tulip]

Kurt's dead baby, Kurt's dead

[plucky tulip]

ty! it's actually just the LUT from the laser game with the kids and River

[fallow thicket]

it still looks great

[plucky tulip]

it's so pretty hey. I suppose I could expand it's color range (or RenoDX can do it)

[fallow thicket]

yeah it looks better with renodex

[plucky tulip]

• Fixed broken PT20
• Fixed weather wasn't properly being detected / unstuck
• Slightly reduced sun shadow diffusion at dawn/dusk
• Fixed the full perceptual scaler wasn't working correctly. It's now auto-scaling more settings, and its console message of what it's doing is clearer
• Clarified the SceneScale settings (now called "Radiance Cache Accuracy")
• Fixed minor inconsistencies between settings

[plucky tulip]

wow that looks cool

i'd love to see @unreal pilot do a version of this. while it looks cool the CDPR lut is "pretty bad", technically. neon future vibes 😎

[vivid grail]

Placide 😡

[fallow thicket]

im doin it only the main quest nothin much also fuck voodoo boys

[vivid grail]

just beat him up with Meredith's gift
it's canon

[fallow thicket]

im never side in voddoo boys im listen to netrunner agent just to make him mad

i love when placide is mad

[plucky tulip]

actually just looking, Cy has already done it i reckon ❤️
https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/13931

[plucky tulip]

they all had an accident

[fallow thicket]

fr

[fallow thicket]

does it work with ur lut?

[plucky tulip]

no it's similar to my lut but better I think

[fallow thicket]

im gonna test them both and see

yeah i dont see any diff

[plucky tulip]

really?

wow

[plucky tulip]

Handz really should have just let me into Heavy Hearts and everyone wouldnt' have had to die

[hazy gazelle]

Slightly off-topic, but by the way, just tried out your Robocop mod earlier and I’m really digging it. Didn’t get a lot of time to play but it looked like a nice boost over maxed vanilla and ran a bit smoother. 😀

[idle jasper]

I posted on nexus too but it seems that on 4.7.3 (PT20), Enable ReGIR DI is checked by default, which makes it so that basically no light is illuminated onto V indoors, so you do have to uncheck it indoors. There's like 15-20% performance gain with ReGIR DI enabled, so I'm guessing that's why it was checked by default

[plucky tulip]

it should only be checked for PTNext... is that not the case?

[plucky tulip]

oh nice 😊. it probably needs an update, i think they've updated the game a few times

[idle jasper]

I don't think so, it happened when I did the clean install/uninstall of ultra plus, cleaning out my settings and starting from default. I'll check again later. On another note, the UI can't be expanded or compressed

[wheat robin]

what are yalls specs if u dont mind

[long galleon]

I'm 5'8", brown hair, blue eyes, male, turn 42 in a couple weeks, single

[wheat robin]

mf is a grown ass man

[hazy gazelle]

I'm sure they have. Haha. It seems to be working fine, but I don't have the expertise to say whether every bit of it is working as intended. Still, thanks for the mod.

[hazy gazelle]

AMD Ryzen 5900X, Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super OC, 64GB DDR4 RAM, 2x 1TB Gen4 NVMe, 1x 4TB Gen4 NVMe, 1x 1TB SATA SD, 1x 4TB SATA HDD

[wheat robin]

goddamn

how do yall run the game with pt? at what res?

[fleet geode]

This is my preference (RT+PT setting, "insane"):

[wheat robin]

ah for me rtpt doesnt hit it right for me

tho it means playing 1440p performance

[fleet geode]

PT Next, also at "insane":

[wheat robin]

gonna try out the latest ver of ultraplus

without ultra plus and with framegen enabler, as well as overdrive optimisation, i can get 60-75fps at pt, 1440 dlss performance

the new target fps mode seems interestin

[fleet geode]

Yup, plenty of great options to tinker with

[wheat robin]

pretty good

[long galleon]

I've got a 4090, I try to max everything, play at 4K

Been a while since I've played CP though, taking a break to play kingdom hearts, since I've been waiting for it to come to PC

[idle jasper]

Just did a clean reinstall of Ultra Plus, and you're right, it's unchecked by default this time. Not sure what caused it to be checked last time I did the clean reinstall

[wheat robin]

ngl playing without ultra plus gives me better performance

[idle jasper]

PTNext is the version with more performance cost

With an 8GB VRAM GPU, I'd only go up to PT20. Even on my 4090, I prefer to use PT20 so I can use highest scaling possible

[plucky tulip]

okay phew

I was freaking out lol

[plucky tulip]

what mode are you in and what fps?

[plucky tulip]

• Added the ability to filter the debug page contents
• Fixed window opening too small
• Added a few fps to PTNext
• Radically reworked PTNext, disabling variable rate shading, and completely disabling RTXDI (very experimental)

[wheat robin]

even at pt20 vanilla quality, fastest drops hard

i think for me rr loses fps

but all the pt presets in UP that ive tried keeps it on

no ultraplus, but with overdrive optimisation (+ other mods), path tracing, 1440p dlss performance, frame gen, 67fps

all of the above + ultraplus, pt20, vanilla, fastest, 8gb, 56fps

pt21 60fps

pt next, 66fps ????

[plucky tulip]

don't use vanilla

use fast if you want it similar to overdrive optimizer

[plucky tulip]

PTNext isn't slow!

vanilla = the games default settings (not ultra+'s)

[wheat robin]

i see, i assumed it was the fastest cus it was at the very left

[plucky tulip]

no it's the crappiest. but you're right, I might move it

[wheat robin]

i thought it was cus it was meant to be even higher fidelity than pt20 or 21

[wheat robin]

and you mean low for the quality level right?

and is there a way to disable rr being turned on every time a save is loaded?

rr gives me worse performance

[plucky tulip]

it is and it isn't... I don't have good control over it

yet the lighting quality is superior

it's basically not finished

[wheat robin]

still very interesting

excited for the future

btw in game graphics settings shouldnt impact too much? i have it set on low preset but with pt, motionblur, ca, film grain, dof on

[plucky tulip]

no they shouldn't. the main one that does is screenspace reflections. I have it set to psycho

[plucky tulip]

• Now correctly detects fast travel & prepares PTNext
• Completely reworked game load/unload detector circuit
• Fixed crazy window sizing

[tired terrace]

heya! i just reported a bug on nexus, but u said in ur sticky that its okay to mention them here (unless i misunderstood, im kinda dumb xP) but in 4.8.1 im having an issue with hair being very dark / shadowy / shiny when using RTPT, im not noticing it at all when using any of the PT modes. it happens in the character creator and in the actual game, in the screenshot im using hair color 2 (the white one) and its still very dark :< ive tried a fresh install of ultra+ but that doesnt fix it, so i dont think ive done anything wrong x3 the problem also goes away when i uninstall ultra+ so i know its causing the issue. im going to bed now but lmk if u need any more info and i can get it when i wake up (unless its suuuper important :p)

[plucky tulip]

hi, yes Nexus is a little difficult to track. ty, i'll look into this 😊

• Improved detection of fast travel detection and enablement for PTNext (it still needs some work, I will come back to this)
• Re-enabled DLSS and FSR2 sampling at higher rates

[fallow thicket]

with ultra plus CET only download from manual yeah it weird

this one is from ultra plus but without cet RT+PT Quality.

i have to see and test them both

and yes the first is dark and shiny thats weird

[plucky tulip]

it looks like it's using the path tracing hair settings for ray tracing 🤔

[fallow thicket]

never knew this 😂

i always thought that was something from other mods and not ultra+

[plucky tulip]

nope. it's all my fault 😂

[fallow thicket]

it fine we gonna let you cook

also when i use ray reconstruction in first pic then the shiny hair is gone it becomes like in sec pic

[pastel ridge]

i dont think the pathtracer even is active in CC or when using backgrounds in photomode

[visual basin]

sorry just want to make it clear, theres no fast option in quality level. So low = fast?

[plucky tulip]

yes they're the same

Fast is probably clearer isn't it 🤔

[visual basin]

i guess, or use same terms Low/Fastest similar to Radiance Cache Accuarcy. less ambiguity?

[plucky tulip]

okay 😊

[visual basin]

appreciate it!!! ngl ive been using vanilla for couple days, interesting to test the low quality after this

[plucky tulip]

if everything's working correctly "Low" (or "fast") uses twice as many samples as vanilla, so should be a noticable improvement

[plucky tulip]

how is it? I haven't played that way for ages

[visual basin]

lol cant imagine what kind of witchcraft is this but low quality sure has more stable performance

[plucky tulip]

it's just regular witchcraft 😄

[tidal karma]

what does the SHaRC Scene Scale / Radiance Cache Accuracy actually do?

[hazy gazelle]

I’ve wondered that myself.

[plucky tulip]

it caches bounces 😊

it's supposed to do more, but it doesn't in CP

so it just makes lighting more accurate

[hazy gazelle]

Ahhh, neat. Quality it is, then!

[plucky tulip]

it will generally make PT look more lifelike, but it's difficult to pinpoint why

[tidal karma]

does the Radiance Cache Accuracy expect the ShaRC bounce cache to be enabled? Also does it do anything if your using RT Only?

[idle crest]

I'm having issues with photo mode and ptnext

It looks good in photo mode then when I take the photo PT stops working and I end up with a very dark photo

[plucky tulip]

it is the SHaRC bounce cache. sharc stands for Spatial Hash Radiance Cache 😊

no it doesn't do anything for RT. RT+PT and above only

[plucky tulip]

is PT enabled for photo mode? and are you using standard DLSS resolutions?

[vivid grail]

there's a new RR dll btw https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-3-ray-reconstruction-dll/

[tidal karma]

A way of monitoring gpu ram in real time would be nice also a way of tracing back what caused memory/write access violations. It’s taken way too long but I’ve tracked down nearly all my self inflicted crashes but still get random memory access violations

[halcyon elk]

Hi guys! Just a fast question about Ultra plus mod.
I'm using PTNext setting but it's not really clear to me if it's ok if I can let the DLSS option on Qulity or I've to decrease.
I've this doubt because it's written in the PTNext description in CET: Run PTNext as high as you can and turn upscaling down a step.

What does it mean?

[fleet geode]

It's mostly for performance reasons. The nice thing about it is, you can change it on the fly (yes, you might need to quick save/load, but still).

If your FPS are fine with DLSS Quality, then stick with it. If you need more FPS, drop to balanced or performance

[halcyon elk]

Thanks for the answer firstly. What I don't get is what do I have to set down a step?

Ah ok

[fleet geode]

basically experiment a little until you find what is best for you - everyone has different hardware and varying preferences.
Personally I prefer everything at DLSS quality and all max settings, but RT+PT mode.

[halcyon elk]

But PTNext uses Path tracing and ray tracing too right?

[fleet geode]

Yes, for PTNext and the other two PT options, you need pathtracing active. For RT only and RT+PT, you just need RT active in your game settings

[halcyon elk]

Ok thank you

Anyway can I ask you some other questions?
Despite RTNext and NovaLUT installed, expecially in low light environments, I see a lot of shadows and ghosting problems

In general with PTNext I see much less artifacts of DLSS compared with Vanilla, but it still doesn't look how I would (or it should I guess)

(I could record a video to show what I mean)

[fleet geode]

Apparently using particular DLSS presets help with that (RT+PT doesn't have much ghosting), there's a post on the mod page that explains the usage.

Actually I'll quote it

You need to install a separate mod called DLSSTweaks (https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/7415). There's a config app within the files of that mod that allows you to select presets for all DLSS quality levels (Ultra Quality, Quality, Balanced, Performance, Ultra Performance). Choose "C" for each level, then click save. That's it! It'll apply that preset to all DLSS presets in-game. Just note that Cyberpunk doesn't offer an "Ultra Quality" setting - DLSSTweaks just offers that for games that do. Also, if you choose to download through Vortex, it'll refuse to install the files and throw up a warning. Don't worry, the files in the mod are virus free. Just go to downloads within Vortex , right click on the dlsstweaks compressed file, and select Unpack (as-is). Or you can just manually install the files yourself. 🙂

[halcyon elk]

Ok I'll give it a look asap

[halcyon elk]

Seems that pt21 is much better than PTNext

[plucky tulip]

hmm, idk if CET has access to this information 🤔

[plucky tulip]

hiya! could you post a screenshot? PTNext should look the best, but it can also be tricky to get right

[halcyon elk]

Hi! I'll do some screenshot for sure

[halcyon elk]

Anyway the weaknesses were visible in the first parts of the game where there are a lot of dark scenes. I'll have to find good places to do videos of screenshot

[plucky tulip]

np, thank you! 😊

[hazy gazelle]

FYI, an alternative for setting DLSS presets: you can do it in Nvidia Profile Inspector as well.

[halcyon elk]

I've set DLSS C profile

[wheat robin]

unchecking "enable rtxdi rejitter" removes the intrusive noise from pt20

[pastel ridge]

you can use hwinfo, and integrate it into msi afterburners rivatuner overlay right click allocated, and there should be an option to do it

available/allocated

[halcyon elk]

Hi! I've uploaded 2 videos on yt one with PTNext and one with PT21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx62ffV9Wmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg15kNSEfZg

I would like to know if, in your opinion, the graphic is acceptable or if there are any issues. I have noticed some aspects I dislike in both versions, but these might be normal and perhaps characteristic of how the CP77 engine operates.

For instance, with PTNext, the shadows of people are more detailed, but I find the ghosting effect quite unpleasant, giving a sense of slowness. In PT21, the shadows are less prominent, and the global illumination seems better, although this might be a matter of personal preference.

Additionally, there's a "streaming effect" that occurs, for example, when I turn to face a wall. As I do so, the background that was previously not visible becomes visible, creating a kind of pixelation effect. I'm not sure how to describe it better.

Are these artifacts present for you as well? Furthermore, I suspect video compression might be concealing a lot of details.

[lusty lotus]

In the Ultra+ PT mod, there is a VRAM configuration option. What happens if I set this to 4GB vs all the way up to 24GB of my rtx 4090?
Max quality PT seems to work regardless of the setting. I am using PTNext and high

[hazy gazelle]

I've got a hunch its a milage may vary thing, I dunno. I've tried C and notice no real difference in ghosting compared to E so I went back to using E globally. I may try C again in Cyberpunk sometime.

[valid anchor]

hello , jus want to start out by saying this mod is a banger. I am getting a bug with black colors looking more red and washed . was wondering if this is on my end and if there is something i can do to fix it . Or is this just a side effect of pt?

[wheat robin]

is there a way to not use ray reconstruction

[fleet geode]

With which mode? RT+PT doesn't need it, for example

[wheat robin]

all pt modes

[fleet geode]

It's really a game issue, from what I can recall. I'll have to check when I get home

[plucky tulip]

oh nice thank you

(falling asleep i will respond tomorrow 😊)

[lusty lotus]

Related question - does PTNext still work with ray reconstruction, and it is better than all other options in terms of quality? (Base game, RT+PT, 2.0, 2.1)

[fleet geode]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/articles/1027

[wheat robin]

i definitely prefer not using ray reconstruction as i get worse performance and the visuals look "painterly" at lower dlss qualities

[fleet geode]

I don't like RR at any quality

[wheat robin]

its a net downside for me

but without it, in ptnext i get lots of noise

little lights boiling and swimming around on every surface like fireflies

[tidal karma]

It’s not a popular opinion but I like RT only the best I’ve tried them all but RT seems the one with the least issues and best performance but not the most realistic

[lusty lotus]

I read this but there is a lot of technical details I don't understand 😁 and it's still not clear to me whether PTNext is just better at everything, or most things (compared to PT20 or RT+PT). I know PT21 sounds to be pretty bad and so I'm not considering this one at all

[fleet geode]

Yeah, that is the purpose of RR. And I don't like the drawbacks either - Another reason for me to stick to RT+PT.

[wheat robin]

for now im just gonna stick to vanilla pt bc then even without rr it goes back to its old denoiser

[plucky tulip]

can you try forcing auto exposure in DLSSTweaks?

[plucky tulip]

hmm is that GITS LUT?

GITS has a magenta cast

[plucky tulip]

I'll take a look when I'm on a screen 😊

[plucky tulip]

yep! it works with RR. it's the one I keep going back to. CyanideX and and I think Rem NL and I were discussing this the other day, there's a lot of lighting environments to consider and all the options behave differently... for example the H10 apartments behave differently from inside a garage in the badlands with sunlight streaming in... behaves differently than somewhere in Dogtown. but I think his consensus and I agree is that PTNext is the one with the fewest issues and most accurate lighting.

PT20 is a very close contender

or I would very happily play on RT+PT for probably the "least fuss" option. it's exactly the same as ray tracing but ads path traced global illumination 😊

use DLSS preset C and force auto exposure on

[hazy gazelle]

Hm? I don't use DLSSTweaks anymore. Not since I found you can set presets and/or DLAA in Nvidia Inspector.

Though I suppose I could drop it back in; it isn't any trouble really

[lusty lotus]

thank you! Does this setting matter? #1225966190439170178 message

[buoyant pollen]

banloca

In the Ultra+ PT mod, there is a VRAM configuration option. What happens if I set this to 4GB vs all the way up to 24GB of my rtx 4090?
Max quality PT seems to work regardless of the setting. I am using PTNext and high

Linked by @​banloca from #Ultra Plus (better path tracing, ray tracing, and hotfixes) · Jul 9, 2024, 7:08 PM

[hazy gazelle]

Ok, I briefly compared C with exposure forced on vs E and truthfully, its a mixed bag. C seemed slightly better when opening the door to V's apartment (the light across the way was "cloudy" either way but might be less with C; it dissapears either way as soon as you look away and look back). I seem to get less ghosting with E on the computer terminal but this seems more dependent on how the light is reflecting on the screen (as in dictating how bad the ghosting is).
Honestly, though, others probably have a better eye for this than I do; I usually don't notice and ghosting out in the world unless I'm deliberately looking for it.

[plucky tulip]

there shouldn't be any ghosting with 4.8.2 ... 🤔 what i don't understand is why some people have ghosting and others don't. what's different??

i do know some people are extremely sensitive to PT ghosting. if this is you, CP is not your game. use RT+PT

[hazy gazelle]

I do seem to remember finding a while back a least some of what I see is from RR, and it doesn't bug me enough to lose out on RR's benefits, so I leave it on. I wouldn't worry about it; I don't.

[noble marlin]

Are debug options persistent? I usually have to reenable options there everytime I start up CP

Ghosting also happens on the computer for me

[hazy gazelle]

Actually, to clarify...the two examples I was using earlier manifest without Ultra+ too, so it certainly isn't the cause (I just yanked the folder out and loaded my save).
Computer terminal ghosting disappears if I turn off Ray Reconstruction. Frankly, I'd rather have RR.
This weird effect, however, happens regardless. I'm not sure if its ghosting in the sense of the word, but I can trigger it reliably opening V's apartment door; it clears up after a few seconds or after looking away. These two shots were taken with vanilla PT; no RR (it happens with it on too; I hadn't turned it back on from the prior test yet); no Ultra+ (it occurs with U+ too).

[pastel ridge]

could you link me a guide on how to setup dlss profiles though profile inspector, im very curious how involved this is. DLSStweaks was a bit mental for me 😄

[hazy gazelle]

Download and unzip the latest Nvidia Inspector from here: https://github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaProfileInspector

Drop this xml file into the folder you extracted to above.
Original source of file: https://github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaProfileInspector/issues/156 (specifically: https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/781?tab=files under Optional Files)

Note: Inspector has fewer options than DLSSTweaks, but if all you need is setting a DLSS preset globally or on a per-game basis (for forcing DLAA), it does the trick.

[pastel ridge]

tnx bud

[hazy gazelle]

From there, run Nvidia Inspector and you can change options globally or on a per-game basis (this is similar to the Nvidia Control Panel on steroids). You'll see the DLSS section is you placed the custom XML file properly; change the preset either globally and/or per-game, and hit Save Changes in the upper right-hand corner

Note: you'll have to redo it anytime to change drivers unless you opt to keep settings. This is exactly like changing driver settings in the Nvidia Control Panel/Nvidia app (there's just a LOT more options)

[pastel ridge]

tnx again, i have used it in the past but this info is helpfull, what dlss profile would you recommend? @hazy gazelle

ill try E with 0.999 scaling

[hazy gazelle]

E seems to be the new hotness, C was the old go-to, (I think; I didn't dink with specifying presets until semi-recently). Sammi suggests C with Cyberpunk; I couldn't tell a difference at a cursory comparison, but I don't have the best eyes for this sort of thing. lol I'd say maybe set E as the global for other games you play with DLSS (why not? /shrug), and for Cyberpunk, try both C and E and see which looks better to you.

[pastel ridge]

E looks good so far

[hazy gazelle]

To be fair, Sammi knows this stuff way better than I do; I'd certainly try C too. I'm going to again myself when I sit down to play longer than a couple minutes

[valid anchor]

hey thank you for replying , no I don’t use gits . This is what I was told

“The washed out blacks is partly due to ultra plus lowering the black floor for HD monitors and a side effect of the light “bounces” in path tracing you can reduce the effect if you edit the common ini and comment out the part that lowers the black floor”

But when I open the common ini I can’t find any array about black floors

[plucky tulip]

oh, if you're HDR i would consider using RenoDX... cyberpunk's HDR is pretty terrible

[plucky tulip]

these are fog voxels. kind of like "really big pixels" you shoudln't even see them.

this is path tracing boiling noise

that's due to too few samples in vanilla - they used 8 initial samples for RTXDI (path traced direct lighting)

[plucky tulip]

hmm. < thinking music > ... i don't think this is correct. to me it looks like there is skin subsurface scattering (SSS) happening on the black plastic. the vanilla SSS is very blue, so probably the modder created the mod for this, and it looked black on their monitor. however, the blue SSS causes dark skintones to look quite purple in some lighting in path tracing (i consider this a vanilla bug), so i changed the SSS colour to a more red/purple colour (basically, you would expect it to be the colour of muscle, like in a real body), and that fixes the blue skin tone issue.

however, the issue here appears to be that SSS is being used at all on the black plastic material. ideally, they would exclude this area from having any SSS at all. basically treat it like clothing, not skin. i don't know if the engine allows this.

you could try doing GameOptions.SetFloat("Editor/Characters/Skin","SubsurfaceSpecularTintWeight",0) in the console which turns off SSS, and should make that material completely black. i guess that would prove my theory

[valid anchor]

I don’t use hdr rip. Sorry I am ass at all this technical stuff . I am also who made that neck mod so it’s even more confusing why it’s doing that . But I will try that . Thank you for taking time out and replying . Do you think Reshade would be able to fix the weird colors ?

[hazy gazelle]

Ha, I didn’t even notice the artifacts in that second picture. Yeah, I was referring to the fog voxels in my post. Weird effect, but it fades quick.

[plucky tulip]

oh cool! well that's easy then. i would just ask if anyone knows how to stop subsurface being applied to that material. i suspect the Songbird body mod had to address the same issue, or subsurface would have been applied all over the cyberware. (i will state i am NOT an asset modder, i think what you guys do is black magic 😂)

[plucky tulip]

yes, i've never seen it in CP! are you using a fog or env mod? ... i've seen it in unreal most definitely

i had that problem a lot in Hogwarts

i just don't understand why many people have a flawless experience with U+ and then there's people who have things i've never seen before 😭

[hazy gazelle]

No ENVs per se, but I am using Nova City, which I reckon is essentially the same thing in this case.
Note to self: test tomorrow by changing weather; it didn’t occur to me to try that at the time and come to think of it, I don’t remember if I’ve seen that voxel fog on other weathers.

Anyways, I got that without U+ too, so U+ isn’t causing it. Both of those screenshots I took were with Ultra+ uninstalled to rule it out (I was also messing with dlss presets and turning RR on and off; just trying different things).

[plucky tulip]

hmm the fog might be one to raise with Cy in #cyanidex-mods ? i'm sure he'd want to know... i don't think it's U+ but we will work together if it is

the H10 apartment is a little odd in how it's constructed, i think it was one of the first areas CDPR built

[plucky tulip]

yes the problems i've seen in H10 only happen with 1 or 2 specific weather types at specific times of day .. i think around 10-11am ... yes i know the weather should only be outside, but it isn't. i think some of the weather actually overlaps the interior, which is the whole problem

acctually lemme mention this to Cy

[hazy gazelle]

I’ve noticed that. And to be fair, I didn’t leave the building earlier when I was doing that test. It’s probably a poor place in hindsight. Come to think of it, out in the world, I don’t recall really ever seeing any ghosting worth mentioning (the computer terminals thing in some lighting is a result of RR; I’ve ruled that out. Maybe some minor afterimages that very briefly appear when drawing or sheathing a weapon, but that’s all I can think of offhand.

[hazy gazelle]

To piggyback on this, it should be noted this occurs even when using Night City Visuals Nulled (as recommended).

[plucky tulip]

yeah, and it's perfect like 49 days out of 50 and then one time you go in there and are like "wtf is that?? 🤔"

i'm sure it's been reported 100 times but no one has reproduced it

yes... i think it's that the fog overlaps the H10 interior

i know Cyanide fixed that problem in a few other places in the game, where they just kind of plonked fog everywhere. it looks okay when you're in it, but when you go nearby and look at the area it looked horrible. he's fixed pretty much all of that 😊

i don't do anything, i just send commands to the engine

[hazy gazelle]

Luckily the voxel fog only lasts a few seconds (or returns to normal fog instantly if you look away and look back). I never even noticed it until today and I’ve been loading that same save for over a month now just to mess around in the city or test out mods. Same rainy weather for at least a fortnight now! 😂

[plucky tulip]

mm. the engine jitters the voxels every frame so after a few frames you don't see it. but it shouldn't appear at all

[hazy gazelle]

Hey, I'm special. 😄

[raven gyro]

is there a way to disable rendering mode?

i kinda want to disable it cause my fps is not liking ray tracing

[tidal karma]

Delete the settings json and when you restart the game just don’t select anything in that section, not sure how well everything will work though

[abstract jewel]

or just change config.json

put "RASTER" internal.mode

[raw prism]

Hello! First of all, thank you for the excellent mod.
I am having issues with noise/grain that appear to be exacerbated by the DLSS-to-FSR3 mod by Artur. With upscaling off, the grain is reduced but the image appears blurry.
I have a Radeon 7900GRE (16GB VRAM) and a 1440p display. I am not running any other graphical modifications.

[plucky tulip]

i can add a raster mode if you like?

[plucky tulip]

i'm adding a raster mode

[raven gyro]

Oki

[fallow thicket]

@plucky tulip RT only mode is also having the same issue too

[plucky tulip]

thank you, I should have a fix up this weekend 😊

[noble marlin]

Hm, i’ve come across a weird bug, not sure if anyone knows or has experience with it. With Ray Reconstruction, screenshots taken with photomode result in 90% of the screen being black, while the upper half is blue. With RR off, there aren’t any issues. I’m currently on Ultra+ version 4.8.1 with RT+PT. Medium quality & balanced Radiance Cache Accuracy & 24GB set as my VRAM (3090). I’m also using ReShade+RenoDX. Preset is on C under Nvidia’s profileInspector.

Skin material was also off on characters (everyone was metallic like) and the whole scene looked as if all lights were turned off

[raw prism]

To clarify, this issue only occurs when ultraplus is installed. Can anyone confirm if FSR3 (or at least Artur's implementation) is compatible with this mod?

[plucky tulip]

hmm that's DLSS not DLAA?

I've seen this before I'm trying to remember what caused it

[noble marlin]

Oh im using DLSS Ultra Performance

[plucky tulip]

hmm

[plucky tulip]

does it do it in Performance?

[noble marlin]

I can give it a try, give me a min or so

[noble marlin]

Same issue happens on Performance

[noble marlin]

Tried on DLSS Quality & Balanced, same issue as well. I also tried RR with PT20 & PTNext with the same issues coming up (10% top blue, 90% Black). I’d CTD with Watchdog errors occasionally when the photos are being rendered after they are taken.

[plucky tulip]

and is DLSS all at the default size ratios?

[noble marlin]

Ahhhhhh that might have been it. When I set the inspector preset to E, it forced the scaling ratio to 0.4x. I turned it off and set the preset to C again, and so far it hasn’t produced that black and blue image. Though now it crashes randomly whenever RR is enabled, or whenever the photo is being taken with 0x8/20 hash errors along with Watchdog errors as well now

[noble marlin]

Just found a mod that prevents watchdog errors from happening. The author made it specifically to prevent photomode from causing that issue. I’d like to figure out what causes photomode to hang, but in the meantime, is that something you have experience with? @plucky tulip

[plucky tulip]

hmm i think CP doesn't behave properly with custom DLSS ratios, but it's just a theory

no i haven't seen any DPC crashes i'm sorry :.

[noble marlin]

Ah its okay! Im currently bisecting and it’s due to a r6/script mod. Thanks again for the help on the DLSS ratio, that solved my initial issues!!

Trying to pinpoint the watchdog errors atm

[plucky tulip]

damn, i'm impressed! 😊 😊

[noble marlin]

Figured it out, it was this mod that CTDs my game when RR is enabled: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/10629?tab=posts

10% extra frames added as well when removed 🤔

[plucky tulip]

hmm, that's unfortunate. excellent diagnostic work

[idle crest]

Is there a way to keep PT global light on by default?

[tidal karma]

What mod did you find that prevented the watchdog crashes?

[raw prism]

Hope it's okay to crosspost between Nexus and here - I am having issues with noise, glittering, skin artifacts, and smearing on 4.8.1 on all PT modes. This occurs on an otherwise unmodified install, and does not occur with completely vanilla PT (aka without Ultra+ installed).
I have tried versions 4.8.1, 4.7.3, and 3.5.3. These issues are greatly reduced on 3.5.3.

Attached are comparison videos between 4.8.1 and 3.5.3 showcasing the glittering artifact. (apologies for the black borders, lossless scaling does not play nice with OBS.)

[noble marlin]

This mod - https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/14170

[pastel ridge]

photomode with more than 10 samples ~15 on my system causes the game to crash. Its just to heavy, and windows says NO, if it takes to long. Thats how i understand it

[tidal karma]

Well I fixed my crashes but game slowly slows down now, but still better than abruptly crashing at least I can save and reload

[plucky tulip]

i can move it to the features panel if you like?

[plucky tulip]

yes, sure thing. i won't get to Nexus for a little while

[plucky tulip]

is that NRD?

[idle crest]

Sure. It makes the game look so much better in sunlight.

[raw prism]

I believe so, I'm on AMD (7900 GRE)

[plucky tulip]

hmm okay, the denoiser isn't working. I'll look into it

[idle crest]

Does everything on this mod work in photo mode? My shots keep ending up looking so different then they do in game.

Maybe it's PT global light?

[plucky tulip]

yes it should do. send some screenshots?

[idle crest]

Nvmd it must be some other mod

[faint sage]

I thought about you Sam :
Are you gonna be that "cdpr" ? 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc42rgJJqPU&t=7141s

[fallow thicket]

@plucky tulip this mod keep casuing crashing every 5mins and i tried the vanilla vision didnt get any crashing at all yes and the mod is beautiful but i cant play the game with it

im using RT+PT quality on my 4070 super and still causing crashing ive tried to the delete the other mods and testing it fine. it just this mod

im seeing alot of people are saying with "Material and Texture Override" legacy causing crashing

[fallow thicket]

It gives a lot of fps yeah it good but when going the streets close to lizzie bar or doing the “ Send in the Clowns” side quest there always cause the crashes

[fleet geode]

Yes, that is a known issue and has nothing to do with Ultra+ but rather with RT(PT) in general.

[plucky tulip]

hi, is your game slowing down before it crashes? what's the crash message?

[plucky tulip]

what do you mean?

ohh i see what you mean

i think it's about time for me to do a video on how to fix UE games

[fallow thicket]

Yes it is slowing down before it crashes

[fleet geode]

Have you checked your VRAM usage? I didn't have any issues with my 4070

[fallow thicket]

Could be the fake varm? I’m using the 12GB version

I’m going to try without using any fake varm and see if it works

[fleet geode]

It's possible, it was a few Ultra+ versions ago when I still had my 4070

[fallow thicket]

I’m using the 3.53 ultra+

[fallow thicket]

my VARM went to 96% with mod

[fallow thicket]

i have the same Varm with vanilla version and not crashed thats the weridest thing ive seen omg

[fallow thicket]

RT only give less VARM then RT+PT and vanilla Version still not crash

im gonna stick with RT only cuz it fix alot of things like the fake shadow and give less VARM

[fallow thicket]

the newer ultra plus doesnt crash but i dont like to use it cuz of the path tracing hair

[plucky tulip]

hold on

[fallow thicket]

i was using 3.5.3 version but when i changed to 4.8.1 it works fine

[plucky tulip]

try this. hopefully i've fixed the hair and a few other things

red sorceress needs coffee badly 😜

[fallow thicket]

im gonna try it right now and see

yeah the hair looks way better

[hazy gazelle]

"Wake TF up, Samurai. New Ultra+ version dropped!" 😎

[fallow thicket]

no more crashes and it looks much better

thank you

[raw prism]

Think I found the culprit - these two denoiser options are disabled by default, enabling them (on 4.8.4) gets rid of the glittering.

[plucky tulip]

for NRD?
okay, so there is a problem with ReLAX (the default denoiser for NRD)... that narrows it down a LOT, ty!

[vague ether]

@plucky tulip noticed 2 problems with the mod
vanilla vs ultra plus

the background text isn't important to me, but the blocky shadow on the pendant is odd

tried 4.8.4 and I didn't see a difference

[long galleon]

The hair seems to be a different color lol

[vague ether]

it's possible the highlights are just lost because of the shadows

[plucky tulip]

that's not U+ causing that. do you have vegetation LOD? it happens if you use extreme / very high settings

[plucky tulip]

it does change the mix of local lights vs. global lights on hair. the default CP settings make local lights very strong. I just try to make it look physically accurate. BUT I think I need to spend some time balancing all the modes again because they all need different settings

[fleet geode]

RT+PT is fine 😅

[vague ether]

these are the mods I have on

this is the result

[vague ether]

same result with having only CET and Ultra+ on

even went out of my way to run mod remover and install CET and ultra+ from scratch

[noble marlin]

Does that happen with all light sources?

[vague ether]

I don't know. I just notice it in this scene. I don't know how I'd check in other places because this is basically the only time V has the pendant on and you can see it in third person

I think shadows are fine in general? So it's possible it's just an issue with this specific scene?

I could send my save so someone else can check if they get the same result as me?

[noble marlin]

Sure I can try it out

[vague ether]

these are my RT settings

[noble marlin]

kk! I'll try it out. I'm running RT+PT currently

Whats your Ultra settings

[vague ether]

tried PT+RT as well

if I use pt20, pt21 or ptnext the scene becomes dark and the shadow is lost. And my fps also tanks :D

everything else is default. Ran disable mods, verified game and installed only CET and Ultra+ to make sure nothing else is affecting it

[noble marlin]

[vague ether]

have to run this without sound to avoid the feels

[noble marlin]

Oh no....

[vague ether]

being hit in the feels twice is enough

[noble marlin]

Oh no you're at this part

LOL

[fallow thicket]

have you try turn off i am the night mod?

[vague ether]

yeah, I ran disable mods, verified game files, installed only CET and Ultra+ and still got this result.

[noble marlin]

How do you get to the part with the pendant

[vague ether]

pick up the bag, walk out and walk to the big door

[fallow thicket]

i see how about did u try 4.8.4?

[vague ether]

yeah, same thing

[fallow thicket]

well lets wait for sam and see

[noble marlin]

From my initial testing, with your settings but RT+PT instead, the shadow does indeed end up being "blocky". Going to try it now with different settings @vague ether

With 4.8.4, is the radiance cache greyed out for any of you guys? Nvm, it's only greyed for anything below PT (RT / RT+PT)

[noble marlin]

Here's what worked for me when I was testing out settings @vague ether

The weird thing is, turning off RT Lighting made the earth at the end look like how it's suppose to look. Whereas turning it on made it look abnormal

RT Lighting off

RT Light On (Any quality, same look)

Though Path Tracing definitely alleviates this issue

For context, I do have Improved vegetation & environment LOD (Extreme mode disabled). 1.5 distance multiplier for both

[plucky tulip]

• added PT16 (path tracing from CP 1.6x 😊)
• fixed NRD

(left) PT16 ... (right) PT20

[plucky tulip]

hmm do you have sosuine's clothing shadow fix installed? if not please try that also

[plucky tulip]

wtf

[noble marlin]

Oh i don't, I'll do that now, thanks!

[noble marlin]

Yeah it tripped me out too, that scene with RT light on makes it look as if all shadows are gone- in the station and on earth

[noble marlin]

NEW ULTRA

[plucky tulip]

i really like PT16 tbh lol

i never got to play it

[tidal karma]

What’s the reason pt16 has much better performance?

[fallow thicket]

yes i got the same fps as RT+PT

@plucky tulip W amazing work with PT16

i never thought of this but i got the same fps performance as RT+PT

what the fuck this is amazing

[plucky tulip]

it's using ReBLUR which is (according to Nvidia) up to 40% faster than ReLAX (used in CP 2.0x) 🤔

and then i just applied my regular performance tweaks from PT20 to it

[plucky tulip]

ty 😊

[fallow thicket]

@plucky tulip there a problem if u disable ray reconstruction it gonna have shiny light in cars and glasses as always

[pseudo scaffold]

good work on pt16 youre a legend

[pseudo scaffold]

im not getting that are you using that glass mod?

reglass 2.0 causes that i think

[fallow thicket]

im using the clean glass

[pseudo scaffold]

could be that maybe?

[tidal karma]

pt16 seems really bright at night

[fallow thicket]

how about metal and the trash

[pseudo scaffold]

ill check again to see what you mean

[fallow thicket]

sure

[plucky tulip]

hmm, i haven't had a lot of time to test it, i might have messed something up. please post screens or in #1225966190439170178 ?

[pseudo scaffold]

oh i see what you mean damn wish you hadnt told me

[fallow thicket]

without

with

[pseudo scaffold]

disabling Ray Recon makes those tiny slithers of light like on the car seat and edges of doors

[fallow thicket]

yes it is bright when u goes invisbillity

it feels like my eyes are burning inside lmao

with invisbillity and without

[plucky tulip]

checking some 1.63 footage *1.6 is brighter at night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2XXRX-heUM

[plucky tulip]

these are black?

[fallow thicket]

without invisbillity yes it is black and great but with invisbillity on it is brighter

[noble marlin]

Damn PT16 is giving me almost the same frames and Frametime as RT+PT

[plucky tulip]

no i mean, your screenshots are blank

[plucky tulip]

surprise 😊

[fallow thicket]

both is black but one invisbillity on and one without invisbillity lmao

[plucky tulip]

do you guys know if all the new DLSS 3.7.10 files work?

[plucky tulip]

your... screens are black?

is ray reconstruction disabled?

[fallow thicket]

nah

[plucky tulip]

you need to disable RR for PT16 😊

[fallow thicket]

the metal getting shiny if i turn off RR like the vanilla PT

[tidal karma]

yeah same issue here but i did turn off RR and its still not black but a medium grey

[fallow thicket]

im gonna test it right now

[fallow thicket]

PT16 with DLSS RR 3.7.10 looks amazing btw

with RR and without RR

i love PT16

[plucky tulip]

hmm why is NRD broken

[plucky tulip]

oh yay! 😊

[pseudo scaffold]

where do you get 3.7.10

[fallow thicket]

i dont care about NRD all i care about the fps

[fallow thicket]

from techpowerup

[plucky tulip]

well that's interesting

that's with RR off

[fallow thicket]

i see

[plucky tulip]

lol i just sped it up another 7% 😄

[fallow thicket]

7% of what

oh u speed it up

damnit why cant i read today?

[plucky tulip]

• sped up PT16 by 7% because why not (by enabling SHaRC which it isn't used except for the acceleration structures)
• added all the ReBLUR stuff to Debug

idk. i can't today, today

[fallow thicket]

thanks now it works

without RR

finally i hated using RR

nope nvm

it still NRD broken

[fallow thicket]

take ur time u done enough

[plucky tulip]

idk how i'ts broken unless it's a problem with DLSSD ?

the DLL?

[fallow thicket]

im using DLSS balance

[fallow thicket]

yeah it still broken but u dont have to fix it now, there always tomorrow

[plucky tulip]

https://tenor.com/QQox.gif

[fallow thicket]

[plucky tulip]

is the NRD noise only immediately when you turn, or is it there all the time?

[fallow thicket]

is it there all the time

[plucky tulip]

okay i have none of that

[fallow thicket]

i try to disable it but it didnt change anything

[plucky tulip]

are you loading a game with NRD already enabled?

[fallow thicket]

yes

[plucky tulip]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/SOvEqDFFwwYAAAAC/celebrity-couple.gif

[fallow thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-breathe-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-5567600972171007330

its 6AM and im still woke what im i doin

[plucky tulip]

those pipe bombs aren't gonna make themselves

[fallow thicket]

it fine just take a break come back tomorrow a new day sun rise up

well im going to bed now tomorrow gonna be fine

[plucky tulip]

okay

• enabled GI anti-firefly to fix NRD noise for PT20
• moved Custom [NRD] Denoiser to Features so it's saved
• moved local light importance sampling to Features so it's saved
• adjusted scaling of PT16 Low/Medium/High/Insane to give it more rays (it needs more than PT20). Low and Medium are still the same and just as fast

[fallow thicket]

gonna test it before ill going to bed

[plucky tulip]

😂

[fallow thicket]

i really said fuck it all

going to bed later

[plucky tulip]

hehe 😊

yay partner in crime 😜

[fallow thicket]

ofc ill do anything for this mod to be good as long as i can use PT without RR

[hazy gazelle]

Yay, new U+ to try tomorrow.

[plucky tulip]

hmm i fixed some more NRD noise

[fallow thicket]

it is better

[plucky tulip]

but not perfect?

[fallow thicket]

yes not perfect cuz NRD is still broken

[plucky tulip]

so why is it working for me but not for you

[fallow thicket]

could be at night?

[plucky tulip]

ooh good point. trying day time

[fallow thicket]

in day time perfect

it just in night time thats shiny

[plucky tulip]

oh! okay. mine is perfect at night too

[fallow thicket]

with RR

[fallow thicket]

thats weird

[fallow thicket]

you see the blue things its shiny

[plucky tulip]

OH i thought you meant it was moving noise

[fallow thicket]

if u zoom in they are moving too

if u cant this then its fine im gonna still be alive

[plucky tulip]

don't zoom 😂

you can enable NRD custom denoiser in Features

[fallow thicket]

is this ok?

finally got it

[plucky tulip]

yes what did you do?

did you just use gaussian blur on it all? 😂

[fallow thicket]

i just turn off the NRD Rejitter LMAO

[plucky tulip]

it shouldn't have been on?

custom denoiser smooths the edges of things a bit to hide the most obvious noise but otherwise mine is smooth

[fallow thicket]

never mind there a color diff if u change the color of the car then if will shiny

[plucky tulip]

🤨 not sure engrish

• reduced NRD noise a bit more
• renamed stupid 'Low' to stupid 'Fast'

[fallow thicket]

the color of the car if u change it to gold then there gonna be alot of noise

[fallow thicket]

english is not my first language

[plucky tulip]

it's spelled "engrish"

lol you're good

i wouldn't ever take me seriously tbh 😄

[plucky tulip]

well don't change it 😄

idk i believe you (kind of) but i'm just getting so little noise here i don't get it

[fallow thicket]

like this

[plucky tulip]

how am i not seeing that

you haven't modified anything in Debug?

[fallow thicket]

im always take modders seriously but fine i not gonna do that with you

[fallow thicket]

nope it the same

[fallow thicket]

gonna test it now and see

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[plucky tulip]

idk how nobody's worked out i'm a pretty massive troll 😂

[plucky tulip]

otay

the only other thing i can think of is i'm using DLSS preset C. tbh i'm not convinced preset E works correctly

[fallow thicket]

nah you not a troll

why is black colors always have some rainbow noise?

cuz they are gay? or something pride month is already over

black + sliver is the noice king

[fallow thicket]

its perfect now

@plucky tulip do i need to download Not So Good Draw Distance Mod or ultra+ already have it own?

[noble marlin]

Extra boil-y with the new update

[fallow thicket]

have you try higher quality?

[noble marlin]

Yeah, only Insane gets rid of it

[fallow thicket]

vanilla and high is also get rid of it

[vague ether]

just tried it. Still the same

[fallow thicket]

try the newer ultra+

[vague ether]

tried 4.9.0

[fallow thicket]

4.9.3?

PT16 could be better

[vague ether]

PC can't handle any PT

[fallow thicket]

what gpu u using?

[vague ether]

6800xt

[fallow thicket]

if you playnig in 1080p u can

[vague ether]

1440p

55 fps :D

[fallow thicket]

try 1080 with full screen and see

[vague ether]

can't do full screen because CET crashes on AMD if you alt tab and the game is not in windowed

[noble marlin]

I know 1.6 requires NRD, but could you just use RR anyways

[vague ether]

well, it makes the entire video driver crash xD

[fallow thicket]

im playing in 1080p in my 1440p and im getting 90 to 130 fps with my 4070S

[vague ether]

but I have to play windowed so the game doesn't crash on alt tab

so 1080p windowed would be pretty

[fallow thicket]

i see

[fallow thicket]

AMD cards is sucks at those things... yikes

[fallow thicket]

well shit

[fleet geode]

Windowed Borderless is recommended for CET anyway

[visual basin]

Which method is better for updating Ultra+? Deleting usersettings.json, running the game, then installing the new Ultra+ version, or just updating directly?

[fleet geode]

On purpose, or...? 😅

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-now-there-are-two-star-wars-viceroy-jedi-gif-11488909

[fallow thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

Nah they are different

[fleet geode]

Yes, the changelogs differ. But peeps are going to find it confusing and THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS 🧐

[noble marlin]

"Is 4.9.0 compatible with 4.9.3"

[fallow thicket]

easy peeps gonna use 4.9.3 cuz of the number

Better number better it is

[plucky tulip]

just update directly, you shouldn't need to delete usersettings.json unless CP chews it up 😊

[plucky tulip]

ugh, ty 😭 fixed

[fleet geode]

aha 😉

[fallow thicket]

Alright I’m gonna go off for today

[plucky tulip]

nn, ty for your help! 😊

[frail slate]

@plucky tulip it is 4.9 now. The previous versions for some reason were giving me worse performance. I know that Cyanide said yesterday that PT 1.6 wasnt that good but using that doesnt seem to mess with my performance. I havent tried PT20, PT21 or PTNext with this new version yet, but in the previous versions they really lowered my performance.

Also with PTNext I always had big squares in the screen no matter how many times I reloaded a save they wouldnt go away. Also, thanks for offering to help with this, much appreciated.

[faint sage]

Thanks a lot for PT16 Sam 🙂 So happy to have it back as an option !
Now I can kick DLSS up a preset (from performance to balanced @2K 21:9) and still have a somewhat decent boost in framerate and great consistency in frame times but at the cost of PT noise and compromised accuracy

So it really is a dilemma.. I mean that's way better to play like this with PT16 fast in "less complex" scenes but as soon as the scene gets "complex" (basically NC at dark hours, interiors with lots of different light sources & Dogtown, obviously), I tend to prefer vanilla for a cleaner PT resolve but blurrier overall image because I have to lower to DLSS performance..

[fleet geode]

Unfortunately something with 4.9.3 has made the game a lot less stable...
(RT+PT Insane, max quality, NSGDD mod default values, Nvidia driver 560.70)

[hazy gazelle]

I'm still not convinced I ever saw a difference between the two in Cyberpunk, but I can promise you have a lot more time in '77 than I do looking at them; I haven't played much in recent months. I'm tempted to take your word for it and swap just Cyberpunk to C and call it good; its not like it doesn't take 5 seconds to do. lol I might have already; I can't remember.

Ah, turns out I had left it on C after my last round of testing

[plucky tulip]

Cy also hates NRD which is all PT16 has... I actually prefer NRD lol.

[plucky tulip]

yw! when you say big squares do you mean black shadows across the top of the screen?

[plucky tulip]

ye 😊 one trick, go into features and enable custom denoiser for PT16. you may need to turn up the sharpening, but it should help quite a bit with the noise

[faint sage]

Can't RR be forced on for PT16 ?

[plucky tulip]

can you describe the crashes or what you're seeing? there's no architectural changes that should make it less stable

[plucky tulip]

I don't think so, it will revert to PT20 with RR I believe

ReBLUR only works with NRD

[faint sage]

[plucky tulip]

haha

[faint sage]

On the other end of the spectrum, have you figured out what could be the cause of the weird "overhead shadow" with ReGIR ?
Eg. When driving any car (both FPP & TPP), I can just look down a little to see a massive dark shade "trolling me" 😉

[plucky tulip]

does it happen straight away or after a while?

[faint sage]

Straight away and won't stop

It's like there's something messing with the lighting but what and "where" (in game space or whatever), no fricking idea

Have the same as Cy on foot as well (in Yucca, a few days of convos back on his thread)

[plucky tulip]

rggh okay thank you back to the drawing board

[hazy gazelle]

Honestly, settings-wise for Ultra+, I just set PTNext Insane, 16GB VRAM, RCA to Quality, and enable NSGDD support, and pretty much leave the rest at default. I figure its pre-configured well enough. I never could decide whether to enable RIS or not (I don't use reLIGHT); I didn't see much of a difference either way, so sometimes I've had it on, sometimes I leave it off. /shrug

[faint sage]

Here's a couple of vids to demonstrate (hopefully it can help)

4.9.3 PTNext at vanilla settings but others are the same

[faint sage]

On that spot, I struggled to get the headlights working properly (seems to be a new issue I didn't have that with Advanced PT or U+ 4.8.x) as you can see in the FPP one (both were on, FPP was short throw, TPP was long throw - using EVS)
And nevermind the clear spot in the upper left on both, it's a window reflection from my monitor

[fleet geode]

Random CTDs, pretty much anywhere in DT and NC.
Currently troubleshooting. I think it's probably driver related.

Ok, seems to be NSGDD with the latest drivers. It was fine with the previous drivers. But also works with the latest drivers, with NSGDD disabled.

[hazy gazelle]

Though I did flip on the new NRD Custom Denoiser and PT Local light Imp. Sampling settings this time wit 4.9.3. In my brief walkabout H10, nothing unusual to report (though those two settings don't seem to stay selected when shutting off the game and restarting).

I did get the hyper-noisy thing once after the game crashed when I mistakenly switched to RT (hey, it happens), then restarted the game and swapped back to PTNext, but the effect went away with a game restart.

[fleet geode]

so, disable NSGDD or revert drivers

[plucky tulip]

whyyy

I don't get this 🤔

[hazy gazelle]

Man, I'm glad I didn't see anything in the new drivers to entice me to update for.

[plucky tulip]

mm or busted save game

[fleet geode]

nah, see following posts

[plucky tulip]

as a rule, don't use game ready drivers unless you absolutely have to. they aren't regression tested

[fleet geode]

the alternative being?

[hazy gazelle]

Bah, I've rarely had trouble with them over the years, but lemons do happen

I'm on 552.44 and have had no complaints

[faint sage]

Studio ones

[fleet geode]

Oh, right

[faint sage]

But latest game ready and studio are the same

[hazy gazelle]

If I do have one that acts goofy, clean uninstall with DDU, then reinstall the one I had prior. Easy, aside from having to redo my NVCP changes (mildly annoying)

[faint sage]

Super wild guess : Simple Flashlight... I'll try with it uninstalled

Nope.. too wild of a guess

[frail slate]

Yes, I remember you said to someone the other day to reload the save bc PTNext isnt activating but Ive reloaded the save and even the game many times and they always appear.

[plucky tulip]

I haven't personally had problems, but I've seen people in posts frequently do

[faint sage]

Although, with CP, there's an interesting case to be made about updating them :
I always run the in-game benchmark after a driver update to see which driver "sub-version" it's actually using because NV is still iterating on CP.
Most of the times, it's using a few numbers under the release one but a few times they reverted to base of the branch "sub-version" (eg with made-up numbers: Driver v545.77 using 545.75 and those few times, say v555.77 was 550.00)

[plucky tulip]

average CP enjoyers 😜

[faint sage]

Latest one is 560.70 but the benchmark will tell 560.00

[faint sage]

Though admittedly, I'd do that with every game if any other one I own was showing this piece of info

[plucky tulip]

is there any gain from the new driver?

I'm still so excited I'm running everything at DRS 4k on my new laptop 😂

[faint sage]

Gain ? Maybe on higher end cards but my old 3080 fe just seems to handle its temps better..

[faint sage]

DRS is a blessing but too bad it can't work work with PT 😭

[plucky tulip]

but... it does...?

[faint sage]

Can't enable it in vanilla settings

U+ can force it ?!

[plucky tulip]

yes from the Nvidia control panel

ikr

[faint sage]

Holy smokes !!

But how can PT work then ?

[plucky tulip]

I got this laptop and it was on the iGPU and I'm like awwww I can't DRS 😭. after like 2 weeks I realized it has a mux switch and I've been on DRS ever since lol

idk

[faint sage]

Doesn't it need a fixed pixel count ?

[plucky tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

nope! 😊

[faint sage]

Well I'll be damned, this might be the most game changing tweak I could make ! Will try ASAP

[plucky tulip]

hehe

[faint sage]

Thank you so much for the tip, hopefully it works for me too

[plucky tulip]

meanwhile I'm asking my husband if I can buy the Deadpool butt controller 😂

yeah you got this

[faint sage]

Looks as dope as stupid but I think it's a unique piece to be won through contest

[plucky tulip]

the controller?

[faint sage]

Yep

[plucky tulip]

I just like Ryan Reynolds' butt lol

I can't use a controller, but that may change soon 😂

[faint sage]

Before I'm back on spot, does the game need to be Fullscreen or borderless is enough?

[faint sage]

Can't play without one, k&m hurt in long sessions

[plucky tulip]

umm I think I'm running it windowed

it does say the full DRS res in game

[faint sage]

Niice 😊

[plucky tulip]

it would be so much better if the controller was his full figurine and you just play on his butt 😂

Sammi's fantasies lol

[fleet geode]

[plucky tulip]

yes, just rename one of the folders to UltraPlus2 😊

lol the most common comment of customers of the software our company makes is "it just works". we're going to try and get Todd to endorse it 😊

[fleet geode]

Lol we weren't being all too serious, because you forgot to archive 4.9.0

[plucky tulip]

haha yes i know

dw i'm rarely serious about anything 😄

[fleet geode]

[plucky tulip]

i told my children one of them is an experiment but i can't say which one

[fleet geode]

lol

[plucky tulip]

ooh! that's a good one. tell your children if they're naughty, one of their Christmas presents will be replaced with a potato. then just give them one or two potatoes anyway, and watch the calamity unfold 😂

[faint sage]

Can't find any DRS setting in Control Panel 😢

Sure you didn't mean DSR ?

[plucky tulip]

i... meant DSR

what's DRS?

[faint sage]

Dynamic Resolution Scaling

In-game you can use it for all modes but PT 😢

Basically taking variable base resolutions for any upscaler (meant to try to maintain a targeted framerate)

It's what almost every modern console builds use by default

[plucky tulip]

(my screen is 1600p)

hmm i guess i do need to run it fullscreen

[faint sage]

Yep, DSR is awesome when you have the horsepower to run it 😄

[tidal karma]

I’ll try it at insane when I get home I use the same options otherwise, do you use medium or high textures?

[plucky tulip]

well i had to drop DLSS back from quality to performance

but it still looks way better

[faint sage]

expectedly so but overall must look way better

[fleet geode]

Every setting at max. quality

[tidal karma]

I use max everything but texture not sure why but suddenly became unstable, but dropping it to medium I can now add all kinds of texture packs that I couldn’t on high 🤷‍♂️

[fleet geode]

Well the issue was definitely NSGDD. But it's weird because it's so totally inconsistent. It's fine one day, then the next day - with the same settings - it's totally unstable

[plucky tulip]

can you describe what you mean by unstable? crash messages, how it crashes ... ?

NSGDD needs to be updated as of a few days ago, along with all dependencies

[fleet geode]

Indeed. That's the unstable one, for me at least

[tidal karma]

I wasn’t even using ultra plus at the time, but it would be a gpu crash looking at the crash it was during lighting always at jig jig street and just before reaching lizzy’s but only when coming from the north (weird)

Setting textures to medium I can use any texture pack as long as I don’t also include a hair or skin mod that alters micro details if I do I will get the same gpu crash at those places

[faint sage]

Thanks for telling us the coming from the north part.
I think there's a pattern here with NSGDD as I also have it varying based on which direction I approach the crash spot too

[tidal karma]

Even halkhogans 4K pack runs fine as long as I don’t add skin or hair 🤷‍♂️

[faint sage]

Approach speed might also factor in

[tidal karma]

It’s not that I spent a lot of time talking to sousine originally I thought it was ads as there are some at lizzy’s and as soon as they showed it would crash, removing the mod only delayed the crash until I got into the parking lot, I really think it may be related although not directly to the amount of ram that may be used for some of the micro details, currently on a 8gb card I’m running I can run everything max Rt/pt (textures medium) hogans HD textures, ETO and the graffiti mod with no stutters at 80-120fps but add in skin crash, sometimes random but always at those 2 places and that intersection and jig jig have lots of people

[faint sage]

Sorry I mixed up your feedback with ManyNibbles'.
This is quite a lot of factors to consider but I agree it's more than likely related to memory (or streamer budget as Sammi points it out frequently)

[noble marlin]

PT16 stayed on with RR. I can double check when I get home

LA traffic rn

[plucky tulip]

you need to do this fix. your save game is messed up. OR, you can try disabling cross-platform saves first, save the game, then load that save
#cyanidex-mods message

[buoyant pollen]

sammilucia

okay, here goes. if you're ride the metro even once, save your game, and start having crashes, there's a problem in your save file. this is apparently the fix.

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[plucky tulip]

i wonder what happens if i run CP with -qualityLevel=Cinematic_RTX

i kinda miss Hansen

[plucky tulip]

OMG so detail

[fallow thicket]

have you tested Fast quality at V apartment? NRD is doing alot of noise

[plucky tulip]

no but i will, ty

i'm still not getting any noise at all with NRD

[fallow thicket]

im gonna send you gimme a min

[plucky tulip]

cinematic mode

[fallow thicket]

fast insane

[plucky tulip]

so are you only getting noise with fast?

[fallow thicket]

yes

only fast

all other is fine

the weird thing is that fast work doesnt give any noise in cars but insane does

nvm it works itself

NRD works itself thats weird

[plucky tulip]

okay ty! that helps a lot

[fallow thicket]

now it better

lmao

it goes itself

[plucky tulip]

lmao wtf

left preset C ... right preset E

[fallow thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/marikiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22138504

[tidal karma]

ive never used cross paltform saves, ever, dont have another platform 😄

[faint sage]

The setting itself can apparently cause problems

[faint sage]

Special K ❤️

[tidal karma]

wow, how did i type in red?

[tidal karma]

well followed "guide" and so far no crashes at jig jig or lizzy's drove around the city for an hour and swapped textures back to high

[hazy gazelle]

I gotta remember to try to look at that comparison on a proper monitor later; I can't tell squat in difference on my phone. lol

[tidal karma]

honestly even on my monitor, but with bad eye sight, i still cant tell much of a difference, i mean there is one, but it isnt crazy at least in my opinion

[plucky tulip]

it's on by default

disable it 😊

[plucky tulip]

oh wow

it actually works

?

[tidal karma]

A little early to tell and I have no idea why, and I forgot to reset my texture to high when I drove to h10, so my be anecdotal so I’m going to ride the metro again then go to jig jig street and see if it crashes

If it does I’ll repeat and see if that fixes it

[tidal karma]

That’s litterally first thing I do if I delete the settings json or reinstall, I’ve never left it on, same with disabling the licensed music and nudity censor 🫣

[marsh brook]

alright so i launched into the game and it didnt crash and then once i changed a setting it crashed and has been unlaunchable since

and then i reinstalled the game and cleared the game folder and it still is ctd

[fleet geode]

delete your usersettings.json

[marsh brook]

i did

didnt work

[fleet geode]

Did you also delete the whole game folder before reinstalling?

[marsh brook]

yes

[fleet geode]

Then it's not a mod issue

[marsh brook]

it worked fine before though, i can reinstall drivers i guess but idk what that would do

ill update drivers and see

[fleet geode]

maybe run DDU first, before updating drivers

[marsh brook]

yeah

idk what happened

i have a 4070 super and a 7800x3d

[fleet geode]

huh. That shouldn't be causing any problems.

[marsh brook]

i know thats why i was confused

[fleet geode]

And don't forget to reboot, even if the driver updates doesn't require it 😄

[marsh brook]

yeah

i've always had issues with this mod which is been frustrating

i am using the 4.0+ version now

[fleet geode]

Weird

Btw. I can recommend the following tool for any Nvidia owners: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/

[marsh brook]

okay it worked

idk why it fucking worked

wild

i still blame the mod lol

anyway

thanks for the help lolol

[idle crest]

Could you add PT global light to features tab please?

[plucky tulip]

hey Amiro, could you please try typing print(GameOptions.Get("RayTracing", "EnableNRD")) into console with ray reconstruction disabled and tell me what it says?

[fallow thicket]

sure gimme a min

[fallow thicket]

it says true

just true nothing else lmao

[plucky tulip]

that's normal

wtf

i was thinking maybe disabling RR wasn't enabling NRD

[fallow thicket]

it is normal

its works fine

it just needs time to catch it maybe?

[plucky tulip]

it's working now?

just not in the lowest setting..

[fallow thicket]

just in V apartment nothing else

[plucky tulip]

what mode and quality?

[fallow thicket]

PT16 and fast

medium and fast is the same i just realize

[plucky tulip]

oh yes they will be in PT16 because there's no radiance cache

🤔

good one

[noble marlin]

Mine results in the same thing as well

[fallow thicket]

thats what she tryin to fix

[noble marlin]

Ahhh I see

I just popped in so I didn't get a chance to catch up

[plucky tulip]

@fallow thicket @noble marlin here you go

• fixed typo preventing higher FPS for PT16 in certain circumstances
• fixed NRD noise at Fast and Medium settings

[fallow thicket]

so you finally got it so what the hell was the problem?

[plucky tulip]

yes in short fallback lighting was disabled for those qualities. which is a speed hack for PT20 but needed for PT16

[fallow thicket]

i see it looks better now great work

[plucky tulip]

yay that's good I didn't have much time to test

[noble marlin]

Testing it out now 😄

[noble marlin]

Hm

Ultra Performance DLSS

DLSS Performance

Going to try with higher Ultra+ quality settings to see how it looks. Just CTD'd so it'll take me a moment

[fallow thicket]

It is much better

[noble marlin]

Yeah definitely, just the 20=>30~ FPS hit isn't nice to me

The boiling isn't as bad compared to 4.9.3 for sure though. I think it's just this area that exacerbates it LOL

Medium Quality looks so much better

On Ultra performance with medium^

High quality + ultra performance

RR+Ultra Performance+PT16High. RR doesn't move 16 to 20

NRD settings doesn't look like it has changed in features+debug with RR on

[fallow thicket]

It great btw let NRD be fixed tomorrow

Let Sam cook

[noble marlin]

Oh yeah im not complaining haha, its a step up from 9.3

High is the way to go for me now. Previously, insane would be the only mode that I could run without boiling

[fallow thicket]

It massive step up

[noble marlin]

Yeah even the fast setting looks solid here with PT16

[faint sage]

Nice performance gains 🙂
Weirdly enough, PT16 fast seems more stable when moving camera/v around, as soon as I stop it gets super boily

[fleet geode]

So it was neither of those either...

[wheat robin]

what is pt16

i been away for a bit

[fleet geode]

Cyberpunk's v1.63 Pathtracing. Needs to be used without RR. But it seems that NRD still needs some tweaking.

[wheat robin]

is it faster? and does it look different/worse than vanilla?

[fleet geode]

I haven't really tried it. RT+PT all the way

[plucky tulip]

yayy 😊

[plucky tulip]

it's fixed now 😊

now it's very stable at all performances

PT16 is nice, very clean especially for NRD

[faint sage]

🤗

[faint sage]

Doesn't it also present the utmost advantage of having proper retention of off screen light sources rays & bounces in dark areas ? Can't remember where it was posted but there was a vid comparing older and newer PT technique that showcased that behavior in a room that ended up being all black with newer PT (if you kept looking opposite to said light source)

[plucky tulip]

yes I'm not so sure. Cyanide and I were looking at that video and he pointed out that all the details was there in the v2.x video as well, it was just a lot darker... so he thought it was an exposure problem

and PT16 is definitely brighter at night

I'm actually really enjoying it 😂

[faint sage]

Even with NRD ? Cool !

Can't wait to try the fix 🙂

Any leads on the "overhead shadow" in ReGIR ? 🤞

[plucky tulip]

no that one is complicated. I have some ideas but I need a whole day or two to concentrate on it

[faint sage]

Take all the time you need and don't hesitate to sollicitate me for trying stuff about it

[plucky tulip]

• increased stability of PT16 (all qualities)
• hopefully added more FPS to all qualities

[plucky tulip]

otay 😊

[plucky tulip]

i been cookin' 😜

[faint sage]

It's way more stable and clearly performs way better ! Great recipe 😉
Only tried fast as it's really what I'm looking for using it but now there's some weird dynamics as shown in the following clip

Didn't capture Myers moving (took it a bit too late and I'm actually cooking frying with the PC on running CP in my room ^^) but there's some really bad disocclusion ghosting

I blame it on NRD 😉

[hazy gazelle]

Ha, just when I'd installed 4.9.5, out comes 4.9.6. Cooking indeed! I haven't been using PT16 but I like having the newest version all the same. 🙂

[plucky tulip]

is that on Fast ?

[faint sage]

It is

[plucky tulip]

mmm it's basically a balance between how quickly it resolves the image vs. performance

it works quite differently from PT20

i can actually see, they used the settings from PT16 in PT20 .... which is why vanilla CP2.0 was originally quite noisy

[faint sage]

Would upping the base res help with that ?

[plucky tulip]

if you go to the debug panel and type RTX ... you can play with the Initial Samples and Spatial Samples and Max History, which will make the biggest difference to how fast the image resolves

[faint sage]

Those aren't permanent, right ?

[plucky tulip]

no they're not

[faint sage]

🙂

[plucky tulip]

but if you find a combo that works really well let me know and i can make them permanent

basically now 4.9.6 is out i watch for feedback to adjust my decisions

[faint sage]

I'll fiddle around with these once the night brings some fresher air.. it's exhausting for now ^^

[plucky tulip]

sure thing! please play, enjoy 😊

[faint sage]

The first two, anything higher than your defaults 8 for each has a big impact on performance.
The third one though, simply setting it to 1 compensates a little the dynamics quirk I've shown earlier (anything higher than 1 doesn't seem to help at all - went all the way to 60 but couldn't tell a difference and no impact on performance apparently)

I shall test the other modes tomorrow but imo, fast with max history on 1 instead of 0 is very nice ! (NRD's weaknesses aside ;p )

[plucky tulip]

max history doesn't make much difference? ... no it won't

it's a temporal reservoir of "rays" ... meaning, if it's set to 0, it will forget all the rays from the previous frame ... but setting it to 1 gives it basically twice as many rays, because it has rays from the current frame, and the previous frame

but then setting it to 2 or 3 or 4 has a diminishing return (and also takes more memory, i presume)

you can also try initial samples at 4 ... in my testing it starts to get pretty noisy as you move around

[faint sage]

I didn't monitor memory usage but I forgot to mention the higher that number, the slower simple flashlight (nice tool to test PT caveats on the fly) would get to "full blast" and it can bring some boiliness back along

[faint sage]

Nah, perf is good enough as is, wouldn't want to trade more FPS for more noise

[plucky tulip]

yes, i don't think it's good below 8

okay 😊

[plucky tulip]

that's it, it's basically a tradeoff for performance in fast

[plucky tulip]

XD

here comes raster and everything mode 😜

[plucky tulip]

here we go

[stone tundra]

hey lucia, i was wondering if u can help me with this bug where the wetness shader disappears when i get close to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URSrrcGs_80

here it is

[fallow thicket]

btw in braindance mod pt16 looks darker then other ultra+

PT16 and RT+PT

both is fast quality level

the weird thing is that the sun become a black hole and the earth goes lighter then sun

also RT+PT with fast quality looks the same as insane Quality but with more fps

[plucky tulip]

is this dumb?

[fallow thicket]

nah this is fine

[plucky tulip]

https://tenor.com/bNBIH.gif

[plucky tulip]

interesting. it looks like it might be missing a light source

[fallow thicket]

yeah the lighting in PT16 is missing

[plucky tulip]

interestunk

[fallow thicket]

have u been in lizzie bar with PT16?

it looks alot darker

[plucky tulip]

noouuii

v5.0.0-rc1

• Added full raster support
• Added ability to control (and save) the in-game graphics menu settings, with the best tuning for Potato, Low, Medium, High. (This also fixes most of the graphics cinematic mode changes if you use it)
• Implemented basic color theming and a new gunmetal color scheme
• Fixed the FPS and Target FPS being in weird positions if you're using DRS
• Now enables ray traced sun shadows on high settings (for ray tracing only, makes no difference for path tracing)
• Fixed PT ShadowFadeFraction changing values with Fast/Medium/High/etc.
• Reduced PT ForcedShadowLightSourceRadius for slightly less light indoors
• Removed extra separator lines when filtering text in Debug panel
• Fixed - the window was supposed to be a little smaller but wasn't

[faint sage]

Is that meant to help Cy get (to) high ? 😅

[plucky tulip]

okay i'll go see Mateo 😍

[plucky tulip]

wdym?

[faint sage]

Missed the "medium" episode on his channel ?

I can't share the secret, don't want him "excommunicado" as he said 😉

[plucky tulip]

oh youtube?

[faint sage]

Nah, texture stuff 😉

[buoyant pollen]

thecyanidex

I will be excommunicato if word gets out I didn't change a texture setting.

Linked by @​thischord. from #cyanidex-mods · Jul 18, 2024, 10:51 PM

[plucky tulip]

ohhh hahaha THAT

😄

[fallow thicket]

PT16 and RP+PT lighting is way darker in PT16

[faint sage]

Could an eventual rc2 save how vanilla settings are set first so we can switch back to our custom preset after using this U+ new section ?

[fallow thicket]

with RR on

the weird thing is that the mod fixes itself

there another bug if u have put the crowd density medium then crowd the gone if u look up like happen in the release of the game

you cant change the rendering features thats weird

[plucky tulip]

🤔 maybe but at what point would we save them? the first time it's run ever?

[plucky tulip]

sorry there's a bug

[faint sage]

For the first run, yes. Maybe also if manually changed afterwards ? But might cost too much to listen to all changes ?

[fallow thicket]

its fine but you cant change rendering features its weirdest thing

[plucky tulip]

yes that's the bug 😊

[plucky tulip]

i think you'd be better off using Adaptive Graphics Quality instead for that ... this is designed to do all the thinking for you

[fallow thicket]

im gonna use the older ultra+ until it fixed lmao

it fine

we gonna let you cook

[faint sage]

Indeed, but is it compatible with(tm) that new U+ section ?

[plucky tulip]

• Fixed Features and Debug options couldn't be set
• Fixed an issue where Not So Good Draw Distance compatibility wasn't being forced for low VRAM
• Fixed an issue where VRAM of 16GB or 20GB could not be selected

you'd better delete your old U+ folder for this update i think

nothing. nothing to see here

[faint sage]

What is v5 tweaking when it comes to raster ?

Had forgotten how beautiful it can still look rasterized.. but.. boy oh boy is DLAA+FG heavy hitting ! GPU over temp limits all the time and spinning at over 3500rpm lmao

[plucky tulip]

that's a weird one... are you using ultra+?

[frank stump]

There is a bug in perceptualautoscale.lua, line 3 must changed to 'local logger = require("helpers/logger")'

[plucky tulip]

oof

thank you

[plucky tulip]

yes sosuine posts the most amazing shots that are all raster

[plucky tulip]

mostly just shadow detail, streaming, and some engine settings

(like how many shadows can be built per frame etc)

[fallow thicket]

PT16 vs RT+PT

PT21

[faint sage]

Was just about to say v5 PT modes are abnormally all darker in dark scenes..

[faint sage]

Guess that explains why it runs so hot (no U+ is already taxing but with it it's a barbecue 😅)

[fallow thicket]

yeah every PT in U+ v5 is darker

[fallow thicket]

also insane quality makes it little lighter

nothin much

[plucky tulip]

🤔 how

[fallow thicket]

[tidal karma]

i like it

can color precision have an entry on the "rendering features" section, it has hidden settings that allow from low (0) to insane (4)

[upper cosmos]

Anyone else having a weird autoexposure issue with PTNEXT? I'm running an i9 12900k, RTX 4090, 3440x1440 with dlls quality and framegen with rr enabled. It also has on certain lights almost like its pulsing like a heartbeat effect, breathing effect. There is also a good bit of noise and ghosting, especially around car wheels when turning the steering wheel as well as the whole image at nighttime or areas where it's more artificial light rather than sunlight there is a good bit of ghosting, garbling and noise. Driving makes it much worse. As well as I mentioned first, it appears there's something weird going on with autoexposure as the screen sometimes brightens and darkens rapidly making artifacting worse when panning the camera around.

[faint sage]

I do get the same "pulsating" light thing but I've only noticed it clearly with vehicle headlights

[upper cosmos]

if you go to welsprings and find the lights under the bridge i believe it is and you look at the ground, it's very visible. It almost looks like the rays are shooting in different areas slightly,

[faint sage]

Playing without U+ now, do you mean one of these ?

[upper cosmos]

I'm not sure what I'm looking at?

I don't think you can catch it in screenshots