Modular Military Mask - ArchiveXL

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worst-thing that happens is nexus taking it down

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Yes but that's a big hit for me

Because i dno't just rush a mod

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Do they take your emonies too?

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but if you already made it?

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I didn't

It's still in blender

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ah

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ok guys i did it

Finally

AXL-ed an item first try

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verigood

I destroyed my entire item, last try

so now im starting from scratch

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Please, elaborate

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I would, if I knew what the heck I did lmfao

It was invisible, missing mod slots

Like holy cow

https://tenor.com/view/sml-vase-smash-fall-break-gif-21997160

That was just the tutorial, now I'm doing it for real

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look at youuu

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yaml -> xl -> factory -> root entity

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I checked it so many times, but I was also finding weird things like localmaterialinstances with no values at all

But I was also making many large changes at once so idk

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yeah, don't do that

[nimble basin]

I sprinted to the finish line and stepped on an s-mine

it was almost completely done

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what is s map

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s map?

sounds like one of the things the young people are doing on the tiktok

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an explosive map

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_s

and also _rsm

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roughness specular metallic maybe?

IDK, normally they don't use specular

how does the s map look?

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like either metal or roughness but idk which one

grayscale

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is this from another game?

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yes

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ahhhh

then it's specular

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Which would be metal in cp?

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reflectivity

yeah, but invert it

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alright

now what's this

its called _rsm

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🤷 ditch it?

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looks pretty important

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might be emissiveness

you can reproduce that effect with cyberpunk materials though

IDK, maybe read up on shaders for the game you have it from?

or look at the blender import

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this is emmissive stuff?

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🤷

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yeah, my items spawn on the first try all the time

How did you know?

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know what? 👀

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That I'm throwing mymesh9000 on the ground to make sure the one I spawn in loads correctly

I would never do this, my workflow is perfect

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MYMESH9000

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a term coined by the master herself

I remember seeing someone ask why there weren't 9000 files after coming from the wiki

That would have been me if I was slightly more extroverted

Okay, so my yaml was destroying every ranged weapon slot

in the game

every day I stray further from the machine spirit

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https://tenor.com/view/snake-with-legs-snake-robotics-i-see-no-god-up-here-other-than-me-gif-26533990

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WHEN I REALIZED THE WEAKNESS OF MY FLESH

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IT DISGUSTED ME

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is there some kind of trick im missing for importing lods?

it doesnt wanna show up

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the lod filter? that'S on export

otherwise, I dunno

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Nvm, I got it

It's renaming itself for no reason I can see, but we'll take it

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Sus

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1136920869889912894/1246014194667749376/ssstwitter.com_1717134008218.mp4?ex=665ad8a5&is=66598725&hm=a1a193b30cff6a100359c8bad7ded3d1cdb2066e0830a58aac2aab9dcf4b9c30&

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wtf lmao

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I need this

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They don't have blowout panels

One hit and they all explode, 0/10 cannot enjoy, poor engineering

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This is epic

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Russian tank moment

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I deleted the headers out of my factory by mistake

That's what happened

https://tenor.com/view/iruckli-gif-27052663

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can just put them back though

copy from other factory

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I already nuked everything , I just did it again and realize this probably happened previously

i am klutz

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These socks go hard

Is the only dependency your material library?

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no, archiveXL etc. too

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Hmmm, I do be needing to update that

I gave them a go but I'm guessing the oddness I had happen is due to that

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oddness?

needs the last versions of everything. AXL, TXL, codeware

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oop

Yee I'm a wee bit behind

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ahh, then that will fix it, I think

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I could only see the decal on the Arasaka socks, and after peepin through enough my game would crash

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ahh, yeah. Psi fixed that.

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verigud verigud

I like them though, can def see myself making some comfy outfits around them

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need tactical socks somehow 😄

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I will make them tactical

the hot purple ones

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@ me with the results lmao

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Will do will do

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Are there rope props

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https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-meme-sus-gif-12038320933253907802

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/13630 best ones I know of

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there are

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I want tactical climbing rope

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not yet, I think. Feel free to disect those rope props

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https://tenor.com/view/dog-funny-look-staring-cute-gif-17180507

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Your stockings disconnect

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<sighs>

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is it a me issue?

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which appearance and where?

might be. I swear, I cut them from the fucking legs...

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this is your stoockings mod

with the lingerie and all

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ahh

okay, yeah

need to re-do that one as well....

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sadge

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Those are some amazing ones

I use them a lot

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really?

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I don't think I knew these existed

Even though I've searched for them many times

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I have too many socks

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Yeah i need some spandex high stockings to go with shorts

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will make pantyhoses some time soon™️

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yeap

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I will probably comission one of my own to go with my sets

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nobody wanna do conservative drip

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but they be disconnecting, i swear they weren't doing thise before

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wdym

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Drip that hides booty and booba

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Do you see ass or boobs anywhere?

it's all covered

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I was talking about content creators

I haven't seen many leggings out there that go beyond thigh length

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https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-19858531

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egs de

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mood

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I need simple, semi tactical poses

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what do you mean by semi-tactical?

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giv refs

I make

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Such as walking, investigating, exploring

With a weapon in hand

nothing "action"

As a matter of fact it's likely people would use these more often

More "neutral" poses

That something you'd do for something specific

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yeah, I think so too

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Like kicking a door

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Hmmm

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For example this is a shot I did with a more "neutral" pose

Stuff like this

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I gotcha

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You need to bend the body into a natural position and this is not easy

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It's an art for sure

If you send me refs I'll add them to this pack, I think I have a few ideas already

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I don't have any refs

Not easy to find any either

Imagine it like walking in a deserted wasteland

You're not like, ready for action, but more like vigilant

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I was thinkin about this for one

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Very slightly alert because as calm is it is you don't know what could happen next

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damn photo tiny

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This one is at the ready

this is action

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It can be adjusted

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I think the theme

Is gun must be lowered

relaxed

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Yuh

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yeah

"while I'm awake I'm at war (but not currently under fire)"

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Eaxctly

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https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-metal-gear-rising-jetsream-sam-metal-gear-rising-sam-gif-26079110

I will show examples soon (tm)

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Standing poses preferably because most people shoot upper body

but not going uphill, allign for flat surfaces

We shoot on flat ground every time

and if you end up doing a set of casual military just drop 2 mods, one action one chill

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Hmmm

This is already kind of a mix of both

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I love all the standing casual gun holding poses you made already. There’s some other ones here and some sitting ones

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ty ty

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giving something or taking something with the gun in hand

like. right hand gun, left hand shopping bag

or you're holding your iron while handing your buddy a spare mag

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but instead of shopping bag, thermonuclear bomb

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Damn

he rly went there

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yeah, well, any prop 😄

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Hmm

Would you be able to help me through your weapon guide a little bit? I have a 90% solution rn, but the appearances keep randomizing no matter what I do

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I can try

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Well, that's really all there is to it. It shows up completely fine, but I can't pick my custom appearance out of a set of vanilla ones I left for troubleshooting

Earlier someone was kind enough to show me that my data arrays weren't matching up in my factory, so I fixed that, but still no dice. I feel like it may be something with the ents since I don't completely grasp them

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for weapons, the ents don't call the deal

it's the tags in the appearances array

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In the root .app right? I have those set for everything there

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yeah

you need to have a unique match. If you have two appearances matching the same tag, it'll just pick any

random appearance usually means that something isn't matching

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I tried to leave it as vanilla as possible to test, so my custom one currently has "default" as a tag

But in my yaml I have the appearanceName specified

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put that as tag

instead of default

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Ahh, they're both "default", should I change them both to something unique (and matching)?

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yeah, that's your appearancename

usually it points at the root entity, but for guns, it points here

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Alright, I'm giving it a go

nope, still randomized

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hmmmm

can you look at the weapon with RHT, see whcih appearance it has?

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I didn't even know you could do that

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https://wiki.redmodding.org/cyberpunk-2077-modding/for-mod-creators/modding-tools/redhottools

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From the watch tab I guess? Is there a way to search it?

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not sure, I think not?

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When I drop it on the ground and scan it it says the appearance is default, but I guess that's different than holding it in your hands?

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I don't think so, no

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this thing is cursed

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Thanks for trying though, I'll keep at it

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welcome. I hate weapon modding lmao

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It is kind of awful

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yeah

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whats the best priced backpack we saw

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https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/sci-fi-character/backpack-military-combat-black-baggage-bag-luggage

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/clothing/tactical-backpack-e88e5d16-4a8d-44d7-86ab-2a3bd91ebc6c

They're both on sale rn

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oh my

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This one may actually be very worth at this price

Yep, the black one is greenlit from me at that price

has everything we need

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verigud, I'll see if I can pick it up then

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Also looking that the topology on it, should easily be converted to mlsetup

not so much the green one sadly

but the black one is twice the polygons too, it looks better

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remember, children: only as many polygons as necessary, not one more

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its very good

20k for a relatively large piece of clothing

the boots were 81k so this is like, just excellent

the other backpack does feel a bit too low polygon for cyberpunk

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ok 😄

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u_U

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ah, both are very good

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right one looks more like biz

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but that one has problem

see here at the back

well, no one will really see this part anyway but still

those lines are just painted

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oh

lmao

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can't grab a mask via UV

but still

no one will see

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should be part of the normal though, no?

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Can't you just paint it on still?

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ahh both are very good

but the black one is cheaper and easier to mlsetup

and is double the polygon

that's the only advantages

black is more "tactical", green one is more "military"

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what

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yes

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I like both, but I do like the price of the other one better

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yeah

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green one gets my vote

just has a better overall shape

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it do be shapely

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https://tenor.com/view/jonnydepp-always-awkward-straw-miss-gif-4464245

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Which one of you can test my helmet mod

The one that's up

The night vision just doesn't work

May have been borked by recent core updates

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I can, the version released two months ago

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I need someone with latest everything

To confirm it's not some shit in my game

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I'll update everything soon to properly test socc and helmet

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did we understand the assignment tho

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I can't test it, the stuff never worked for me

(not playing the game does that to you)

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lmao

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o ye pretty much that

top left still looks quite action

bottom left looks a little like she coming while stomping the ground

you may want to relax that pose a bit more

bottom right looks good

top right too although what is she doing with her hand

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Yee I thought the same about the top left, but I like how it turned out, I can relax the other one

Just holdin the blaster, that is a bad angle tho

Oh

lmao

It's supposed to be like pressing a headset to your ear

Will prob look good with your headsets but haven't sized it yet

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also in each of your poses, move and tilt the head in accordance to the action of the pose

we can reset head position ingame anyway

but we cant tilt it

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True

I try not to touch them too much until I see how they look ingame, but I'll fix this too

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I like that one. Mabye make another with the gun lowered further?

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I can do this u_u

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you could make one where the gun is behind the back like the "I have a surprise" but it's not a flower

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lmfao

I can also do this

Very open to suggestions from any of yall still btw, I'm at 5 something poses

50

lmfao

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I'm thinking "doing regular things, but you happen to have a gun in your hand"

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Hmmmmm

veri pretty

I'm pickin' up what ya'll are putting down but I need to find some references

Take this gun, choom

But behave, alright?

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awesome ❤️

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tytyty

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Basically bottom left but with pistol in 1 hand and much more relaxed, similar to bottom right

People also like standing poses with gun in whichever position

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I'll do this as well

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And you should split this into 2 packs

Too many poses in 1 pack imo

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Yeah I think you're right, it's getting messy

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Make action poses for one, and relaxed gun poses for another mod

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I need to figure out how to easily move these keyframes around on the nla track I was trying to organize them by standing, kneeling, prone, but that got out of hand quickly when I got ideas from other sets after I was finished with that area

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Very nice

How about holding a flashlight in left hand and pistol right hand, holstered down

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Heck yeah, I was going to do this one

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As if you entered a darker room, not completely pitch black so you can see there is no enemy, but you use the flashlight to see better

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Ahhh

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Also I will have a surprise for you

Remember those 1 million poly goggles?

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https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-plink-cat-gif-1794292671885121408

decimated

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One of my partners volunteered to optimize it, and my god it looks top tier

UVed with many masks roo

Too

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https://tenor.com/view/antonio-banderas-oh-sweet-impressed-not-bad-gif-9592821

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It's the same guy I'm working on the bodysuit with

Which he modelled from scratch

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dam

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With another person

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blender chad

or w/e he uses

Very sick

https://tenor.com/view/vibing-st6-cute-dog-dance-gif-16459631

about to preview these fixed poses for the first time

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Me sitting waiting for wkit to validate my entire npv project for several minutes after i forgot to turn off file validation for this one:

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-19858531

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lmfao

Have a treat while you wait

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WO

this is very cool

and i like your gun very much

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https://tenor.com/view/michael-douglas-inhale-smoke-romancing-the-stone-gif-26350440

Thanks boss

It still has some problems, but I pretty much had to make a real gun to get what I wanted lmao. I needed a way for these poses to be used with rifles

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Very well done

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ty ty

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when is this pose pack usable

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It's usable now, but I have a few poses that need their hands redone. Also need to go back through fix the jitter, all simple things

The biggest thing now is separating the ones I want for this pack

I can send you what I have today if you wanna take a look, I'll try to solve these issues today

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send me sure

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Ah, I also need to connect the non-weapon props to the appropriate poses, was having a little trouble with that today but I'm sure I can overcome that too

Then it's just modpage work I think, seeing how I wanna stick images on it, pose reference sheet

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Looking forward to it

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even in blender the mesh is disconnected, so its definitely not something on my end

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😦

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possible that it's on my end, ngl

I haven't overhauled that mod yet, and what with the 48516251230123 different refits...

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sadge

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The time has come

My own mods are getting entagled in my library of textures

I need to separate it and put it as dependency

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o boy

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https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-george-point-of-mice-and-men-gif-16131327

Tell me about the conflicting textures, George

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My game crashed before I could finish this lmao

But I will return

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I see firepower

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me too

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guys guys guys

lets say

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guys guys guys

ok what now

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hypothetically

that i want to port a 1.7 million polygon prop

would the game live?

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https://tenor.com/view/hachubby-hachu-eyes-crazy-eyes-cute-gif-17734580

I wish I knew

what is it tho

the goggles?

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no.

tank.

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https://tenor.com/view/xqc-xqcl-xqcscare-gif-25243848

what it is what it is

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I send you in DM

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okai

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I am certified MADMAN

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tru facts

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Do i even dare

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YES

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-gif-17194495338804408005

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that's a lot of submeshes

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im gonna try

just to see

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my blender died attempting to triangulate faces

oh on wait it alive wtf

just took 10 minutes

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lmao

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i dont think the game will live

so ill leave this on another day

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sadge

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you try it

If you succeed, ill help

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https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-not-memes-chad-giga-chad-gif-25109684

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Was I wrong?

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I have balls, game doesn't

it will die

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xd

There's some lower poly variants out there tho, but that one is quite nice

quite nice indeed

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it is insanely nice

i would've made it my pet project

but too much polygon

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big sad

I should have enough content to release something every weekend for like a month if all this stuff comes together

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Just make sure to refine the poses with what Elf said

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For sure, I haven't even started on that yet

Still fixing the props

But that's the fun stuff, so I'm saving it for last

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Does anyone have a mouse I can borrow

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-confused-upset-mood-out-alogikunu-gif-9687459481687267969

I didn't beat it, it just stopped working lmao

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Right......

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I SWEAR

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How much kinetic energy did it have to withstand

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I've had it for maybe 9 years

It definitely hasn't been beaten

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Truthful statement

I totally believe that

Why not I ask the table your mouse is sitting on. Perhaps it has an opposing opinion about that

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https://tenor.com/view/it-really-hurts-me-that-you-dont-believe-me-queen-sono-pearl-thusi-why-dont-you-believe-me-that-hurts-gif-18692779

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Is it possible to generate new cruids for an entire array?

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the spouse and I have like 10 or 12 Roccat Kovas

they used to break down so we stocked up whenever we could get them

but then we found out how to repair the issues

and now we will never have to buy mice again

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lmao that's amazing

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yes, especially because this mouse is perfect

it's ambidextrous and symmetrical

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Hmmmm

It does look quite comfy

I don't think I've used anything from them before though

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yeah, but they don't make it anymore

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damn

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I have a fondness for mmo mice because of their size

My hands thicc

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Are you winning son?

With weapon modding

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I wish

It's awful

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Let me know when you win

I want to port weapon mod myself

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If I'm still here by the end of it, sure

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I just wanted a prop man

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yeah i also wanted to do some poses once, then shit happened and now im modder idk

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I wanted to do these to avoid weapons lmao, I should have listened to me

But I have learned a lot, if I get through this I can continue my original project with ease

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https://tenor.com/view/fall-snow-day-hold-my-coffee-slipping-on-ice-sliding-gif-16076972

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https://tenor.com/view/yuki-slide-stairs-cat-gif-18928749

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that looks incredibly routinized

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artificially prepared catdrop

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Are there any experienced weapon modders that wouldn't mind me bugging them about the process? I think I've done everything possible that makes sense (to me) to try and get this to work

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the #merchants-of-death folks

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I might just start over again, I feel like I've bugged them a lot lmao

Awful

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When you win, you will teach me

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I'm retiring to micro thongs after this

Much less headache

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https://tenor.com/view/it-is-acceptable-gus-fring-acceptable-better-call-saul-acceptable-gif-25806361

[red reef]

https://tenor.com/view/wheezer-slingshot-our-gang-little-rascals-bobby-hutchins-gif-17878897

like this<?

[nimble basin]

lmao

Yes, exactly like those

[red reef]

the back of my head, where the paranoid imaginary people live, approves

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-ohfuck-burn-gasp-cat-gif-5049889

not like this

[warped dome]

Hey Mana you have mods with a dedicated shadow mesh that does something?

[red reef]

"does something"? I usually just... it just works?

[warped dome]

My mods do not have working shadow in FPP

I want to try fix

[red reef]

hmmmmm

with regular shadow meshes?

[warped dome]

Is there guides on shadow meshes? This is more of an fpp issue

[red reef]

not really, no. I'm thinking about writing one as we speak... 😄

[warped dome]

Well what's the implementation anyway, just grab the whole mesh, mark it as shadow mesh and put it in ent with a special tag?

[red reef]

no, you have to change a RenderProperty

I mean, we have some documentation on shadow meshes? I think. I remember writing some.

[warped dome]

You uhm, have a link to it?

[red reef]

no, I'd use the search...

[warped dome]

I saw this one

https://wiki.redmodding.org/cyberpunk-2077-modding/for-mod-creators/modding-guides/vehicles/problems-and-resolution/shadow-mesh

But it's my problem exists in RT

and PT

[red reef]

that should be covered by the castShadow property?

[warped dome]

Damn, i had a video of it somewhere

#archive-xl message

[urban pike]

scorpiontank

Hello again, I've been sent this video showing my AXL items shadows' (vest and elbow pads) being "out of sync" with the first person perspective when having a weapon drawn. I don't have the slightest of clue what to do or what the problem is :SadMan:
I can also replicate this consistently.

Anyone knows anything about this?

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Linked by @​scorpiontank from #archive-xl · Jan 27, 2024, 4:01 PM

[warped dome]

This is one problem

and second problem, some items just don't have shadow in FPP at all

[red reef]

maybe they need an fpp shadow mesh. I dunno, I never checked

but it'd be best to compare an item with a working shadow to one with a non-working one?

[warped dome]

Well I guess yes

[red reef]

Never ran into it myself

[warped dome]

My game is crashing on equipping my item and the file validation doesn't tell me what I did wrong

https://tenor.com/view/o-hearn-mike-o-hearn-o'-hearn-mike-o'-hearn-what-is-love-gif-420687199718608240

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/boondock-saints-willem-dafoe-gif-23203908

[warped dome]

Aha, i had a mesh.ent overwriting this in another mod, back when I was fucking around with GS

[nimble basin]

lmao

rip

[warped dome]

Game doesn't start if i add this block, is it synthax error?

[red reef]

No, but use yamllint?

[warped dome]

this is the .xl file

ah duh

https://tenor.com/view/o-hearn-mike-o-hearn-o'-hearn-mike-o'-hearn-what-is-love-gif-420687199718608240

ignore

[nimble basin]

No tell us

[warped dome]

Can such entries be made with dynamic materials?

[warped dome]

No

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-major-spelling-mistake-spelling-mistake-gif-25140477

[red reef]

sure, yeah

[warped dome]

Really? I'm dumb, how

The only thing changing is the BaseColorScale values

[warped dome]

I missed : on the second mesh

[nimble basin]

sad

[red reef]

it's always shit like that >.<

[warped dome]

patching is cool though

and soon i shall add linking too

any new AXL feature I can add?

[red reef]

I fucking adore linking

all the fucking body shapes

atlas gymfiend whomst? I just have "buff"

[warped dome]

Also I had an idea that I must ask Mana again if its possible:

I equip item VEST with 2 submeshes. submesh_02 is hidden
But when I equip item POUCHES, submesh_02 from item VEST becomes visible.

Possible?

[red reef]

yes, via custom tags

[warped dome]

ohhhh

Oh shit yeah

[red reef]

😄

that's what I'm doing for the kimono/hakama

it floofs, but when you put the kimono over it, I switch it out for a flat version

[warped dome]

Let me show you what id like to do

I have to rework this mod from ground up. I want to make the pouches modular. (I am also aware there's like a plate only like on Oda or Takemura, I've yet to find that variant for female but there must be)

Basically when i equip the pouches i want to make that blue strap appear

But if someone wants to equip only the pouches which ive seen people asking for, then that strap should not be there

Hence why i asked this

[red reef]

yeah, you can absolutely do that :))

[warped dome]

Aight, well I shall keep this in mind because i think that mod is next for rework after my pants

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cayde6-press-the-red-button-destiny2-cdrb001-gif-15316207

me trying to figure out this gun

Does mixing base meshes with guns cause issues?

I have it to the point where 1 of the appearances works perfectly, but they're all identical

1 of the 6*

[red reef]

define base meshes?

[nimble basin]

Oop

Well in this case, literally the rifle base meshes

I know the other guns are split into other parts and do weird stuff when adding attachments, but the Ajax is just one piece, and I've swapped all of those out

[red reef]

I have no idea You#re in deeper than I ever was

[nimble basin]

No worries

[warped dome]

Good luck soldier

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-no-no-no-no-meme-cat-no-cat-meme-gif-8178193224013835888

[warped dome]

When you win, you will teach me

[nimble basin]

No you teach me

[warped dome]

Teach you what

I dont know gun modding cabron

[nimble basin]

CLOTHING

I could have understood that maybe 2 timess over from the time

I have spent on this hellspawn

[warped dome]

well

you chose gun mods

dw though

[nimble basin]

They chose me

[warped dome]

be joyful

that its not

vehicle modding

[nimble basin]

I feel like vehicle modding has more documentation

and people discussing it

[red reef]

there's the #merchants-of-death people

who are digging into that

[nimble basin]

I'm just whining lmao, sorry

I've been bugging them, believe me

[red reef]

[red reef]

fun fact: autism used to be called "extremely male brain syndrome"

let me help you solve your problem!!!

<was just venting>

[nimble basin]

Veri interesting, today I learned

Are you working on any neat stuff?

[red reef]

currently making an NPV

after that, I guess I should... release a few things...

I have the socks overhauled and edited

but I need to upload my material library, and I'm simply too lazy

[nimble basin]

sadge

[red reef]

IKR

[nimble basin]

Can't wait to look into that stuff, it sounds really neat

[red reef]

it is - with resource patching, it simply makes no sense to have the materials around in individual mods

because in theory I can offer so much variety

Maybe even dump a mesh into the library that has everything defined

[nimble basin]

veriguuud

I am starting to understand some of the magic words you two speak

Time heckin' flies, feels like I just got here lmao

[red reef]

I know right?

[nimble basin]

This is gonna be my month tho, gonna see if I can release something every weekend starting next week

[red reef]

ooof. No, I'm not gonna do that.

I'll be in meatspace next weekend. it'll be great, but also super exhausting

my dose of social for the year

and the monday after, we will pick up those kittens

[nimble basin]

CATS

Sounds like ye got some fun stuff lined up, can't wait to see photooooos

(if you take them)

[red reef]

I will shower the server in cat photos

[nimble basin]

[red reef]

the left half of the stack

[nimble basin]

So cute

[red reef]

yeeeees

[warped dome]

Hey Mana how can I reverse search this outfit? Game.AddToInventory("Items.Trauma_Team_Outfit", 1)

I checked wkit but nothing helpful comes if i search any of those words

[nimble basin]

Did you try looking for stuff under wa and full?

I bet your wallet it's there

[warped dome]

i searched via tweakdb and i think i found the thing

[nimble basin]

verigord

[red reef]

like that, yeah 😄

[warped dome]

Militech variant previously 👶:

Vs militech variant now:

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/boondock-saints-willem-dafoe-gif-23203908

I NEED THAT SHIT

[warped dome]

https://tenor.com/view/ricardo-milos-meme-lick-gif-15879753

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-catherine-ohara-moira-moira-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20789756

[warped dome]

since im reworking the mod from ground up i decided to convert the "we have militech at home" variant in REAL militech custom variant

[rigid timber]

I’d maybe increase the tiling of the camo a touch

[nimble basin]

It's very sick, I need to investigate how to make camos too

Get the boys some multicam

[rigid timber]

Just one man’s opinion

[rigid timber]

Mlmasks

[nimble basin]

Yeee, I just don't know how I'd actaully do it tho

[warped dome]

No, it's on point with vanilla

in fact its a bit denser

same as Adshield's top

but you can diy its a microblend

and its also on point with my other camos

[rigid timber]

Use substance painter I think is the easiest way

Then add a layer and put a black and white camo on it

[nimble basin]

Hmm hmm

You might be on to something

[rigid timber]

Ya I can see it’s matching with vanilla

[rigid timber]

It works 1000%

[nimble basin]

So you know how to do this

But you haven't blessed the boys with multicam holsters

Shame

[red reef]

you're evolving 😄

[nimble basin]

combatmon

[warped dome]

It's still a mystery

but now i know how to use this microblender

somewhat

[nimble basin]

YOU WILL TEACH

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27459460

[warped dome]

I'll have proper militech variants for all my mods boys

no more of that "we have at home militech" shit

[red reef]

[nimble basin]

[warped dome]

is there any other faction with camo microblend?

[nimble basin]

Is it possible to do variants with that blend? Like desert, tropical, etc

[rigid timber]

so far I just used it to add camos to some meshes that normally don't have a camo

[nimble basin]

That's sicccc

I'm just messing with ya of course tho lmao

[rigid timber]

but process should be similar for adding a camo that isn't in the game

[red reef]

yeah, you absolutely can

[nimble basin]

0.0

I wunnnna

[red reef]

it's just the question which colour you slap underneath

[warped dome]

yes, this is the big problem

its what doomed my green camo variants

i simply couldnt get them to match across mods

[nimble basin]

sad

[warped dome]

the Arid version is similar, but I'm trying to streamline it a bit

[red reef]

I believe in you

[warped dome]

nah

[rigid timber]

I have the texture from this model that I could try and apply to my holsters

[warped dome]

those variants are now gone

[nimble basin]

Hmmmmm

[warped dome]

kang tao has camo stuff?

but i dont think kang tao would be that popular

ahhh wait, barghest lmao

people would definitely be into barghest themed no?

but they use mlmask paint for their green look

[nimble basin]

idk i never seent em

me no pl

[warped dome]

ah well

21 standard and 9 camo, people can choose

i could do a kang tao but whats their colors

[red reef]

they'd love them, yeah

[nimble basin]

Orange and black

But their camo is some odd color I think

[red reef]

can always do clean stuff with orange highlights

that'd look rad

more minimalist than the 'Saka stuff

[warped dome]

these dudes i see

they have microblend as camo

so i could recycle this variant

and remake it with camo

[nimble basin]

Militao?

UWU

[warped dome]

no no, some other variant i have

i have a forest and a green

which are very similar

[nimble basin]

UnU

[warped dome]

i cant do barghest they have paint splash over their items

[red reef]

but this camo is pretty characteristic, no?

[warped dome]

yes

what yall say

[nimble basin]

I like it, I'm not sure how much control you have over the pattern, but it could be a good base for a more traditional digital camo

[warped dome]

what about other design

like not their saturated orange

that is indeed a good pattern for digital camo

[red reef]

you could go with almost-neon orange

[warped dome]

i have my Urban version which is orange accent with black camo

[red reef]

yeahhh, nice. Now that digital camo and more orange stripes?

[warped dome]

i need this vest for female

[nimble basin]

tru

[warped dome]

im just looking at random npcs now

we have what mana suggested

[nimble basin]

Need the whole ninja set for female tbh

[warped dome]

and kanng tao

[nimble basin]

They have really really good pants

Like really good

and boots

[warped dome]

i could really replace one of the greens with a microblend camo that doesnt have any custom overrides

[nimble basin]

But all for male

That may be my first clothing project if nobody gets to it first

[warped dome]

which

i mean

you can do whatever

its game assets

[nimble basin]

I know, but

If someone else is doing it I'll do something else

divide up the work

put more new thangs out

[warped dome]

i had a train of 20 or so people request @rigid timber uniform mod in my colors

and for female

[nimble basin]

But the uh, arasaka ninja outfit

It's the best uniform in the game imo

But just very limited in color and gender

[rigid timber]

My uniform isn’t even a matching set ha

[rigid timber]

Same mesh I used for the shirt in my mod

[nimble basin]

based

[warped dome]

for real though, i put my partner to work on that mod while i do my main project

[rigid timber]

Oh I meant isn’t even ha

I have the trauma team jacket with the Militech pants

But I like how they looked together so

[warped dome]

they said you're not doing it for female so they came to me

[nimble basin]

omega based

[warped dome]

sick

[nimble basin]

We must unbase you

For the greater good

ty ty

[rigid timber]

Ya I can’t be bothered

[warped dome]

I mean it's fine ofc

[rigid timber]

Even tho my mods would get WAY more downloads

If I did

[warped dome]

I personally wouldn't do male refits, because i play female character

which prolly goes the same to you but male

which is 100% understandable

[nimble basin]

I do both, but femv be winning right now

[rigid timber]

Yup

[warped dome]

honestly, i think it's cool to have dedicated mods only for male and female, especially in military

[rigid timber]

I just saw those comments ha

[nimble basin]

Imma try to make mine for both as much as I can, but that's easy to say when all I'm doing is poses

[warped dome]

what's some good digital camo combinations

i could try kang tao, or another camo pattern using that tiles microblend

[nimble basin]

Militech would look hard

[warped dome]

we already have proper militech

i showed it earlier

[nimble basin]

But do you hae improper militech

[warped dome]

Yes on all my other mods

its just their base color

[nimble basin]

[warped dome]

the "militecch at home" variants

[nimble basin]

militzneeetch

[warped dome]

i take it you're militech fan

[nimble basin]

I like the most of the corpo soldier drips, Militech's is just more diverse

Araska still in their emo phase

Ugh mom, can you leave??? Im operating rn

[warped dome]

arasaka is nice with black and red

[nimble basin]

That'd probably be a sick digital actually

bricc camo

[warped dome]

he looks on crack

[nimble basin]

Wonder if that's real

hahahaha

He might be, it's Vietnam

Certified sick

has my vote

[warped dome]

you want red and black

[nimble basin]

Yez, yesz

maybe some grey to break it up if you can even do that

[warped dome]

what about this pattern, not color

[nimble basin]

Hmmm

What's the smallest you can get it without it being hard to tell what it is?

[warped dome]

it can go to infinity

https://tenor.com/view/o-hearn-mike-o-hearn-o'-hearn-mike-o'-hearn-what-is-love-gif-420687199718608240

[nimble basin]

rofl

I'd make it a lot smaller tho just to see

[warped dome]

ay

it gets kinda repetitive

[nimble basin]

Ahhh

I'm kinda understanding how it works now

Try the red black and grey on that?

I like the size of that, but it does repeat like you say

[warped dome]

https://tenor.com/view/o-hearn-mike-o-hearn-o'-hearn-mike-o'-hearn-what-is-love-gif-420687199718608240

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-detective-pikachu-searching-gif-17532857

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

Thatttts kinda hot

I would tune the red down a little bit imo

briccc camo

[warped dome]

i nverted colors

ah same, rip

[nimble basin]

Hmm?

[warped dome]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-mad-door-slam-quit-gif-22084787

[nimble basin]

hmmmm

[warped dome]

how about full grey

i still dont think people would use green

[nimble basin]

The regular militech camo is much better, I didn't know it'd look like this

It could work, but I think you'd have to edit the pattern some more

So the colors are more grouped together

[warped dome]

i cant edit the pattern

its just how it is out of a box

[nimble basin]

I gotcha

[nimble basin]

That goes hard

I like this and the red squares

[warped dome]

so here the thing

ive seen screenshots of people

most use neutral colors

[nimble basin]

🤷

I wish I knew what people liked

[warped dome]

Well

It's mostly black

You know I could just say fuck it and do Kang tao

[nimble basin]

lmao

Their colors aren't bad

It just looks odd with the orange imo

[warped dome]

I could really replace one of my green camos though

That's for sure

Well green variants

I have 2 shades of green

Which are very similar

[nimble basin]

Hmmm

[rigid timber]

I like Kang Tao

[warped dome]

ok i will try kang tao

i also think they look quite cool

oh yeah i think kang tao is the way guys

their base neutral color is the same as my militech one

[nimble basin]

o sheet

[warped dome]

meaning i make one, the other is ready, just change camo and accent

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-cat-gif-2489042263160225691

[warped dome]

kangTao

[nimble basin]

That's drip

Approve

[warped dome]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thanks-thank-you-so-much-keanu-reeves-gif-21952233

[frail geyser]

So I am looking for the Radio from your Military Vest, it doesn't show up in your Atelier

[frail geyser]

Ah I found the issue nevermind.

[warped dome]

[red reef]

it really is. I kind of want to do an Arasaka armour store with Samurai and ninja armour...

[warped dome]

I hope i covered everything

I'm using ALL of axl (i think)

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/maxed1-brickhill-meme-gif-18041406

[nimble basin]

yesplis

I'm seriously considering trying to gender swap it, because I enjoy suffering

[red reef]

it's not so bad actually

there's an auto refitter, and you can get really far with proportional editing

[nimble basin]

:0

[red reef]

just need to switch out the armature below and you're good

[nimble basin]

Well that's comforting Thanks

Not my proudest typo

[red reef]

😄 I didn't read it

[nimble basin]

Good, good

[nimble basin]

If I want to change a mesh's position in wolvenkit, what values do I need to mess with? BoneTransforms?

[red reef]

can you rephrase?

[nimble basin]

For example with myweapon9000, the vanilla attachments don't fit on to it perfectly because it's a little thiccer than your average Ajax. Is there a set of values that I can adjust to transform that scope in WolvenKit, rather than exporting it into Blender, adjusting, and importing it back?

[red reef]

yeah, should be parentTransform or relative...Something?

[warped dome]

let us know when you win son

[red reef]

you can check the guide for amm effect components

I think it has that

[nimble basin]

I think I will have to do these poses before I win, I wanna release them this Saturday

But I am try

Ahhhh, I will give that a look

[warped dome]

It's Sunday

[nimble basin]

Yes

https://tenor.com/view/boondock-saints-willem-dafoe-gif-23203908

[warped dome]

I did angel refit for my pants

[nimble basin]

verigud

How long would you give people to take photos for a pose pack?

[warped dome]

Eh, I always give 5 days at least to ever mod I do. Though I keep in mind people may post last minute so my deadlines are always a day before release

[nimble basin]

Hmmmmm

I'm gonna work very hard to have this done by early Monday then

And thanks Mana, I think this is it. Do you know if this has to be done through an .ent? I see these same values in the .app

[red reef]

should be doable via .app as well

just matters where the component is tbh

[nimble basin]

Hmmm

[red reef]

like. app and ent files are effectively interchangeable

the game only knows one single entity that it spawns

everything else gets parsed and assembled and digested until it's in there

[nimble basin]

Innnteresting

[red reef]

like