Modular Military Mask - ArchiveXL

[warped dome]

absolutely

[nimble basin]

I may do these after the gas mask

combat crocs

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https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/clothing/balenciaga-x-crocs-madame-sandals-mule-rubber

https://tenor.com/view/mike-wazowski-mike-pog-pog-gif-154717314566640477

[red reef]

no heels

you can't fight in heels XD

[warped dome]

https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/clothing/crocs-classic-3d-model these are super military though

This is the one i wanted to do for april fools but i was like

nahhh

[nimble basin]

lmfao

[warped dome]

and i was going to do them in "armed" and "defense" mode

you know, with the little adjustable strap

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-gif-19925044

Are you sure about this

[warped dome]

@red reef sick implementation, even less copy paste

[warped dome]

well i am utterly lost why my dynamic materials dont function. i sent to a friend and he couldnt spot the issue either

[red reef]

thanks 😄

[warped dome]

I checked your implementation in mesh, it's exactly same as mine with Soft tag in both the mlsetup and the base

appearance name needs to be same as chunkmaterial name?

[red reef]

nah, that's optional. I think.

[warped dome]

you use () instead of {}, does it matter?

like, i just dont know what to try anymore, doing it the standard way works, im only changing stuff in mesh

[red reef]

no, that's just for stability in the yaml

are you on the most recent version of everything? The only thing I haven't updated yet is ArchiveXL to 1.14

[warped dome]

Yeah im on 1.14

but your mod works

on 1.14

[red reef]

that makes no sense

[warped dome]

thats why i said that i can rule out dependencies issues, because your rope mod functions

[red reef]

ok, turns out that the main material flag is soft

and file validation is right

[warped dome]

the validation is not telling me anything else wrong

[red reef]

as I said, the validation is a pretty rough draft

do you have spaces in any of the keys?

[warped dome]

ok hold on, now something extremely sus is happening, i switched to classic and im also getting void textures

validation is not picking up anything again

ah wait i think i know,

yeah, so classic way works

I forgot to change flags back to default

the mlsetup is real and working

so its just something about the dynamic materials not functioning on my end

[red reef]

I'd ask in #psiberstuff at this point

[nimble basin]

sad day in the kingdom

[warped dome]

Well that's the fucking headache of dynamic materials mystery solved, jeez

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/expand-on-that-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-tell-me-more-explain-gif-20031393

[warped dome]

Its in #psiberstuff but basically i needed 2 appearance entries at least

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/addition-to-mycollection-more-collection-gif-14095863

saved tf out of that link

thank you for your suffering

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

Okay, this thing is starting to come together a little bit. I know I need to increase the resolution of my mlmask, but for this:

I'm guessing this is a matter of me weight painting since there aren't any gas masks similar to this? That circular part isn't supposed to be deforming like that

[red reef]

working on file validation...

[nimble basin]

ㅇ_ ㅇ

[warped dome]

This is super easy

Transfer weight from glasses

or my mask

or helmet

basically everything must be full red

[nimble basin]

[warped dome]

you can paint manually too, you need literally 1 bone

Head

all red

[nimble basin]

That model is looking kinda up close, but I think I'll still finish this

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/fm12-cbrn-respirator-57a5362d4a1443a3821d29471b5dcf39 this guy has the best gas mask I've ever seen ever

And it also happens to be the same type I want

[warped dome]

This the one you making?

[nimble basin]

Yeah, an FM12

[red reef]

restart your WKit, peeps

FileValidation is updated

[nimble basin]

0.0

[warped dome]

Automatically updates itself?

[red reef]

when you restart wkit, yeah

all the scripts do

[nimble basin]

Do I just need to keep increasing the resolution of my mlmask until these go away or is this another issue?

I doubled it and I can still see those little gaps all over

[warped dome]

whats your res

[nimble basin]

1024

[warped dome]

you sure this is the mlmask

[nimble basin]

idk

[warped dome]

put a random mlmask

[nimble basin]

I started at 512, and it looked like this:

[warped dome]

looks the same to me

try an ingame mlsetup

random one

[nimble basin]

Oka

[warped dome]

as you can see

problem is your mlsetup

[nimble basin]

I didn't realize it was possible to destroy a setup in that way

[warped dome]

me neither

[nimble basin]

xd

[warped dome]

what you did is quite outstanding if i do say so myself

because i dont know how you did that

[nimble basin]

I'm very good at breaking things

Believe me

[warped dome]

I trust

[nimble basin]

The only thing I remember touching in mlsetup was luminosity, beyond changing the materials to what I wanted of course

[warped dome]

luminosity doesnt do anything

its just there to make those squares be more visible

[nimble basin]

oh

rofl

Those little triangles also go away when I use this random mlsetup

[warped dome]

yeah its something weird happening

https://tenor.com/view/giancarlo-far-cry-far-cry-far-cry6-gif-23478415

[nimble basin]

Well, at least that triangle thing is also caused by this error

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

Changed the filters

One of them has more polys than the entire mask

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https://tenor.com/view/michael-douglas-inhale-smoke-romancing-the-stone-gif-26350440

[nimble basin]

It's more like

https://tenor.com/view/fire-house-dollhouse-burning-gif-17390075

[warped dome]

he be cookin

And so am I

[nimble basin]

I KNOW IT

[warped dome]

You and me rn:

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-pizza-party-party-ricardo-milos-cooking-gif-17834756

[nimble basin]

True, true

https://tenor.com/view/ricardo-milos-ricardo-milos-coding-system-shock-gif-20405728

g key, g key, x z y key, g key

[warped dome]

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I believe the "asset" is ready for recolors. I finished the mlmask and initial color layers

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/illumination-asian-man-enlightened-oh-okay-gif-16379366

I'm almost there too, I decided to make the filters modular so I need to do mlmasks for the 50th time

Then I need make a normal, and I'll be rdy for colors

[warped dome]

you mean add more layers to mlmask?

[nimble basin]

Hmm, I could do that too

[warped dome]

well yes, do that

less files less pain

[nimble basin]

I need to think thru about what the best way to do them is

But I would have to solve this to do that?

This is how it looks unwrapped with the new filters lmfao

They look fine as their own thing

[warped dome]

Ah damn

[nimble basin]

I'll learn how to mess with uvs one day, maybe

[warped dome]

Since I don't know any UV, yeah go do 2 mlmask

[red reef]

UVs are basically just a very very very elaborate puzle

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-falling-backwards-cat-falling-fainting-gif-2147915943057436213

[red reef]

also, go grab the new WKit release! 🙂

[nimble basin]

WOAH

my nightly experience lasted two whole days

[red reef]

new Nightly will come soon™️

[nimble basin]

Very goooood

[red reef]

but the stable has all the latest shit. Really happy with this one 😊

[nimble basin]

"removed write protection from arrays of buffers by @red reef in #1654" MY HERO

whoops

lmao

It looks amazing, I understand and appreciate the magic more and more each day

I did get some kind of "bigint" error when I did this on the nightly, but it didn't seem to do anything to mymod9000

[red reef]

"this"?

[nimble basin]

Copying things into the arrays of write protected buffers. When making my mask, I used a mesh that was utilizing preload materials. Not sure if this is the right thing to do, but for consistency's sake I deleted those arrays and created everything in localMaterialBuffer where I'm used to seeing things

[warped dome]

New stable release out?

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/knnyagi-yes-gif-26091066

[warped dome]

I'm getting that shit immediately

[nimble basin]

Yes

[red reef]

that was a different issue, restart WKit 🙂

[nimble basin]

Hmmm, I could have sworn I got this after restarting that day

And it would occur in the stable version when saving this mesh file

But now it seems to be saying this
[5/4/2024 5:26:58 AM] [Warning ] Could not verify the file you just saved due to an error in Wolvenkit. [5/4/2024 5:26:58 AM] [Important] You can ignore this warning or help us fix the problem: get in touch on Discord or create a ticket under https://github.com/WolvenKit/Wolvenkit/issues [5/4/2024 5:26:58 AM] [Important] Please include the necessary files from your project's source folder. [5/4/2024 5:26:58 AM] [Important] For more information, check https://wiki.redmodding.org/wolvenkit/wolvenkit-app/file-validation#there-was-an-error

[red reef]

it's in the scripts, not in WKit itself

[nimble basin]

oop

[warped dome]

Why is nightly still .13 if stable is .14

II only use stable anyway

But was curious

[red reef]

because the version wasn't updated on nightly branch I guess

[nimble basin]

I hit update scripts, restarted, it still throws that most recent message at me

[red reef]

Hmm. Can you give me the file, please?

[warped dome]

Ah, but isn't like nightly where this is tested first?

[red reef]

yes, but the version is set via tag

so that wasn't communicated back to the Nightly yet

[warped dome]

ah

Damn, I'm still getting this when i hit install and launch

[nimble basin]

Same

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

I usually need to launch through MO2 anyway so

I never see it anymore

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[red reef]

do it again :3

[warped dome]

No matter how many times i try launch the game via wkit, any of the launch options, it says file name missing

[red reef]

extract the portable install, the installer is kinda brrrr

[nimble basin]

???

https://tenor.com/view/voodoo-voodoo-doll-pin-witch-poke-gif-7901210

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

What kind of magic is this

[warped dome]

I did and I'm getting the same

[red reef]

programming

[red reef]

huh. you have the game executable configured in the settings?

[warped dome]

Ya

[nimble basin]

I do too, but my game and wkit are on separate drives

I think I saw someone else who reported this mention that too, but not sure if it matters at all

[warped dome]

mine are on same drive

the depot is on separte

[red reef]

that shouldn't matter

hm

maybe try deleting the settings

[warped dome]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-hamster-sad-hamster-meme-meme-violin-gif-12427766965802345224

Guess I am highly unfortunate

[red reef]

does it still happen even after nuking the settings file?

[warped dome]

It got fixed

[red reef]

nice :3

[warped dome]

i deleted this config

(renamed)

Gracias

[red reef]

do you by chance remember the original error message?

[warped dome]

welll its posted above

[red reef]

"it says file name missing"

Not good enough for a wiki entry or exception handling

[warped dome]

well thats literally all t was saying

when i pressed launch game

the other button

it said file name was not provided and thats it

[red reef]

ok

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2024-05-04 13:44:04.813 [ERR] Launch: error launching game! Please check your executable path in Settings.
2024-05-04 13:44:04.813 [INF] Launch: error debug info: Cannot start process because a file name has not been provided.

This is when pressing Launch Game button

I checked logs

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[5/4/2024 6:03:29 AM] [Error    ] Message: Cannot start process because a file name has not been provided.
Source: System.Diagnostics.Process
StackTrace:    at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start()
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(ProcessStartInfo startInfo)
   at WolvenKit.App.Controllers.RED4Controller.LaunchProject(LaunchProfile options) in D:\a\WolvenKit\WolvenKit\WolvenKit.App\Controllers\RED4Controller.cs:line 423
   at WolvenKit.App.ViewModels.Shell.RibbonViewModel.LaunchProfileAsync() in D:\a\WolvenKit\WolvenKit\WolvenKit.App\ViewModels\Shell\RibbonViewModel.cs:line 86
   at CommunityToolkit.Mvvm.Input.AsyncRelayCommand.AwaitAndThrowIfFailed(Task executionTask)
   at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__128_0(Object state)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)

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And this is the Install and Launch one

Source: System.Diagnostics.Process
StackTrace:    at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start()
   at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(ProcessStartInfo startInfo)
   at WolvenKit.App.Controllers.RED4Controller.LaunchProject(LaunchProfile options) in D:\a\WolvenKit\WolvenKit\WolvenKit.App\Controllers\RED4Controller.cs:line 435
   at WolvenKit.App.ViewModels.Shell.RibbonViewModel.LaunchProfileAsync() in D:\a\WolvenKit\WolvenKit\WolvenKit.App\ViewModels\Shell\RibbonViewModel.cs:line 87
   at CommunityToolkit.Mvvm.Input.AsyncRelayCommand.AwaitAndThrowIfFailed(Task executionTask)
   at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__128_0(Object state)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)```

[red reef]

Hah, thank you 🙂

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

me vs the mask she tells me not to worry about

[warped dome]

Wtf

Used subdiv?

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/primal-spear-eat-smile-silly-gif-26564256

yes

it looks terrible in game

unless im missing another way to remove those triangles

I was gonna see if I could upgrade mymesh9000 then learn how to normal map

[warped dome]

I think this is normals issue

[nimble basin]

I don't have a normal I had to rip the uv apart because it overlapped

https://tenor.com/view/rip-juice-cry-cat-kitten-tears-gif-15751834

[warped dome]

No no,

În blender go. To normals

În edit mode

Select all faces

Mesh>normals>set from faces

Have all faces selected in edit mode

Try jngame

[nimble basin]

WOW

Let me try this, ty

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

It looks great in blender, but in game it looks about the same to me

[warped dome]

it should look better ingame

if you see it changed in blender

[warped dome]

make sure it actually changed in wkit

[nimble basin]

I'm positive this is the right one since I haven't exported one without filters yet

[warped dome]

it shouldnt look blocky in wkit

[nimble basin]

I'll try it again

[warped dome]

dont think you imported right

it should look like in blender

[nimble basin]

I did make a fucky wucky, not sure where but it's smooth in wkit now

Will try in game again

It still looks the same, but I'm probably doing something silly

Haven't sleeped yet

I also feel like maybe I don't fully grasp what a normal map is supposed to do

[nimble basin]

But these are questions for later me

[red reef]

normals are the thing that makes the bump

basic ally, this on a flat surface gives you a stone wall

[nimble basin]

Hmm, so not helpful for smoothing out my pixelated mesh

I was understanding it as some magical way to put high poly data on a low poly model, like enough to fix my chunky model

[red reef]

yes, but you'd have to have a high poly version of your model

what you wanna do to get rid of this here

is to use the normal smoothing operations

Blender's context menu under alt+n in edit mode

either "reset vectors" or "smooth vectors" or "recalculate from outside" or something like that

[nimble basin]

Hmmmmmmm

I did get it to smooth out in wkit, but it's still looking about the same in game

[red reef]

ok, that's odd

[red reef]

sure the repack worked?

[nimble basin]

I'm pretty sure but let me check again

Reinstalled, opened mymod9000 in the mod browser to make certain it was smooth, gonna see what it looks like in game again

still looks the same to me, but I didn't try the methods for normal smoothing you mentioned

I'll come back to this later though, thank ya both

[red reef]

sleep well 🙂

[warped dome]

What's the usual garment support tag for boots if I want pants to be tucked insde

[warped dome]

Ah, but why of course, my garment support wasn't working because I didn't import the GS mesh ingame

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-21355539

[red reef]

😂

if you stop doing it wrong, it starts working!

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-me-wake-pp-morning-gif-13979354

[warped dome]

My mlsb just stopped working like wtf

I press export and nothing comes up

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-dancing-happy-fun-celebrating-gif-16728482

I feel like after I update I'll be having a casket dance done for me too

[warped dome]

And man I was speedrunnin the mod

[nimble basin]

big sad

[warped dome]

i dont understand whats going on

logs say nothing

ok get a load of this shit

i deleted layer 0

and now the export works

i put it back in, now it also works

????

0 sense

[nimble basin]

I think my mesh is cursed

[red reef]

ghooooost-busters?

[nimble basin]

🎶 If there's something strange, in your 3D viewport, who ya gonna call? 🎶

Uh yknow what, I think I'm gonna gonna google it

gonna gonna gonna

But I tried all of the techniques you mentioned, they don't seem to do anything, the recalculation options seem to make it more disfigured

Set From Faces looks perfect in blender, but when I put it in the game it's still looking very chonky

[warped dome]

are you 100% sure you're importing it right

[nimble basin]

No

Unless I'm not checking some settings correctly on import or something

I gave this one a defect to make sure I wasn't jamming a stick in my own bicycle wheel, but it still looks funny

[warped dome]

it looks like fucked up normals to me

which the set faces thing should fix

[nimble basin]

I meant no as in it's very possible I could be messing something up still somewhere tho, im baby

But it looks smooth in wkit, so I don't get it

[red reef]

Yeah, hm, odd

try other options in WKit maybe?

[nimble basin]

I was just using the default settings, but nothing that needed to be changed stood out to me

[red reef]

errrr

in blender sorry

[nimble basin]

I will try

idk if this is significant but I put a random normal over it and it almost looks like it should

[red reef]

try assigning an empty normal

like, just yellow

flat_normal or so

[warped dome]

for blender just use the plugin to import export thiings

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/antonio-banderas-oh-sweet-impressed-not-bad-gif-9592821

It changed all my colors to white, but the model is flawless

[red reef]

[nimble basin]

Is this just a matter of me reconfiguring the colors to work with this new.. normal, or do I need to mess with this normal in a specific way?

seems like none of the colors I had show with this, it's supposed to be gray and black

[red reef]

that's weird.

[nimble basin]

older pic, but it shows where the difference in colors should be

[red reef]

that looks white there as well though

[nimble basin]

I mean like, the darker hard plastic pieces (eyepieces, filter mounting spots)

They all seem like the same color when I put the normal on

The newer one is layered in just about the same way

I'm playing with the colors now to see

[nimble basin]

I may call it good enough at that for now, I can't get the black as deep as I want it, but at least it looks good to me. I appreciateee ittt

[warped dome]

depends on materialo

[red reef]

if you want a really deep dark black, use silk and the bottommost roughness

you can get it almost vantablack that way

[warped dome]

yeah but silk is not something you make a mask out of

[red reef]

yes, but you won't see that.

put it on low opacity

over the actual mask material

[warped dome]

I'd say just override the color

with mltemplate

[red reef]

CDPR is literally doing that as well, though

and it's a part of the material properties

I've managed to make really dark leather by overlaying it with silk... let me check

I can't find it, but pretty sure I wiki'd it somewhere... <digs>

I did not

but

anyhow

slap a semi-transparent layer of black matte silk over your black plastic

it'll look amazing, trust me

[nimble basin]

0.0

I will try all of these

[nimble basin]

I think I wasn't going hard enough on the black with the mltemplate override, it can get pretty dark with this rubber/plastic tech. But I also tried the silk trick and it's quite cool, I'll keep it in mind for the future

I think after I get the filter changed out I'll be ready to color it, what do ya'll think?

[warped dome]

Very solid

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/rammstein-gif-14985757510808049159

I will go with this model then

Thanks peepsssss

[red reef]

yeah, lookin' good!

[warped dome]

Dynamic materials can't be used in vehicle mods?

Doesn't look like it, rip

Np, might as well suffer through 120 mlsetups

[nimble basin]

VEHICLES

https://tenor.com/view/he-died-cat-falling-over-cat-oof-rip-gif-25901051

[warped dome]

Port a tank

[nimble basin]

If you rip me a model from wt I will

[warped dome]

Theres plenty free on sketch fab

Idk how to rip

[nimble basin]

Yeah but I need it to be so accurate the CIA sends a hit team

But I was just joking, idk if that would get you banned or something

[warped dome]

Idk if they give a shit but then again that's gaijin

[nimble basin]

I mean from the extraction process, I don't think it's as simple as opening the game files with a tool

[warped dome]

But it probably is like that

[nimble basin]

idk

[warped dome]

But why settle on a tank only

Port a goddamn battleship

[nimble basin]

Yamato replacer for Kujira

[warped dome]

Real

I mean that would be really cool, just arasaka pulling in the port of NC with a whole ass battleship

[nimble basin]

lmfao

[warped dome]

Speaking of the aircraft carrier

Where is its escorts battlegroup?

[nimble basin]

Sunk

This is America

[warped dome]

It's 2077 and a carrier doesnt have escorte like bruh

All major navies irl have battlegroups for their carriers

Immersion broken

Smh

[nimble basin]

Literally unplayable

[warped dome]

[red reef]

why shouldn't they?

[warped dome]

Well I did the dynamic thingy and the validation was saying that the thing is not a dynamic material

i don't have a root to put Dynamic appearance tag if that's required

[red reef]

the validation might be wrong

[warped dome]

only got ent and app

[red reef]

it shouldn't be

but appearances is in the mesh?

[warped dome]

yeah its like your usual standard mesh

i haven't tried it ingame though

[red reef]

ok, what exactly are you trying to do?

[warped dome]

simply use dynamic materials in a mesh

[red reef]

OK

As far as I know, that has nothing to do with cars

[warped dome]

meaning it doesn't work or it's irrelevant for what purpose the mesh is being used for

[red reef]

the latter

[warped dome]

then I will try again

[red reef]

file validation may have errors

that's, like

you need to understand that it's implemented basically on top of Wolvenkit

it knows nothing about the files

it just gets a data structure and then runs a craptonne of checks that I implemented by hand

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/boat-sandra-bullock-bird-box-netflix-blindfold-gif-13147723

My files getting validated in 4k

[red reef]

pretty much, yeah 😄

especially with new features, it's possible that file validation is just plain wrong

[nimble basin]

Is that why you were asking for my file the other day? What was going on there?

[red reef]

yeah

So I can iron out the kinks in the tool

[nimble basin]

m a g i c

[red reef]

magic just works

this is hard work 😄

wizardry instead of sorcery, so to say

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/primal-spear-eat-smile-silly-gif-26564256

I like your funny words

[warped dome]

I implemeted the whole thing and the log says this:
[5/6/2024 7:06:37 PM] [Important] localMaterialBuffer.@dynamic is using Flags.Soft, but doesn't seem to be dynamic. Consider using 'Default' instead

i just yolo it?

i yolo it

[red reef]

no, ignore that warning

and send me the file please

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/voodoo-voodoo-doll-pin-witch-poke-gif-7901210

rip your file

[warped dome]

The log?

[red reef]

the mesh

[warped dome]

ok

[red reef]

fixed

[warped dome]

the fil validation?

[red reef]

yea

[warped dome]

ok now it doesn't say anything anymore, but it kinda aint working either ingame

[red reef]

that has a different reason then 😄

try spawning it with just one static appearance?

then after, make that one dynamic... etc. etc

[warped dome]

it works without dynamic materials

[red reef]

... oh, wait

actually, I think I just broke something

[warped dome]

[red reef]

If the material path doesn't have substitution, then you need to put "default"

[warped dome]

it has *

or you mean baseMaterial?

[red reef]

yeah

[warped dome]

it doesn't want to function either way

[red reef]

are you on the most recent AXL?

[warped dome]

im on 1.14.0

[red reef]

IDK which version is the most recent one, but...

[warped dome]

i updated

and it works now

tf

But why

I am extremely confused

Ok nvm I am no longer confused

Wow I am so retarded

https://tenor.com/view/low-intelligence-specimen-gif-7870219346859963163

Guys I just took an IQ test and I scored triple digits!!!! (It has a , after the first digit)

[nimble basin]

xdd

When you said "," I was like wow, he really might be, but then I remembered Europe uses commas for decimals

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

(i am joke)

[warped dome]

I'm a joke too

[nimble basin]

no you good

Modding the interior of our tanks in Cyberpunk, for... reasons

[warped dome]

I am modding some very good

A very secret project

Mana now knows the secret

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-falling-backwards-cat-falling-fainting-gif-2147915943057436213

[warped dome]

Also

The "asset" you sent me has significant progress too

Got the neutral colors done

The camo ones are a bit more difficult

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sad-die-inside-gif-23315280

amazing

Here is my progress

[warped dome]

madman is actually doing it

[nimble basin]

Now I need to learn real axl so I can do a lot of colors

[warped dome]

it's so easy

[nimble basin]

very good

I haven't rly even seen the page but these words bring me comfort

I just did it the old way to learn axl

[warped dome]

it rly is

with all this dynamic stuff

[nimble basin]

I feel like I started modding at the perfect time

[warped dome]

Eh

The perfect time was when the first AXL guides were out

Since then, it's still all perfect

it just gets better and better

The worse times were before AXL, with the rudimentary wkit or what was back then, and with HEX editing

I started modding as soon as dynamic appearances came out

[nimble basin]

Interesting, interesting

[red reef]

speaking of cats

https://imgur.com/a/hBGI5LQ

We're gonna adopt the two in the back

[nimble basin]

0.0

So cute

[red reef]

yes 😭 the little boy (in the back) fell asleep while I held him

[nimble basin]

cat/10

[red reef]

look at his little faceee

[nimble basin]

What kind are they? I don't think I've seen a cat with a fur pattern quite like that

[red reef]

bengalese

[nimble basin]

he cuuuuute

[warped dome]

cutie uwu

[nimble basin]

100%

[red reef]

he will be named Cassian

we're still brainstorming for his sister

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nod-gif-22999859

Another K name? :O

oh

[red reef]

Nu, we just reconsidered 😄

[nimble basin]

haha

Dynamically named Kassian

[red reef]

😄

[rigid timber]

Ya’ll are COOKIN in here GAT damn

Been on vacation and not following this thread as much as I usually do

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-so-delicious-jill-dalton-the-whole-food-plant-based-cooking-show-it's-yummy-it-tastes-good-gif-11079020088387528727

Hope ya vacay goin' well

[rigid timber]

Thank you man! It’s been great so far

[red reef]

great to hear :))

[warped dome]

Mana, how does one add deformation to a vehicle. I know the wiki says that .mt file adds, but that only adds scratches all over during impacts, I'm talking about actual deformation like vanilla cars

Is it like with garment support?

I use this one that adds scratches all over during impacts

But I'm looking for REAL damage

[warped dome]

Is there a car modder that I could ask some questions to?

[nimble basin]

I've seen MisterChedda and hgyi56 work on them quite a bit

esl level sentence

[warped dome]

lmaooooo

[nimble basin]

You saw nothing

[nimble basin]

xd

I WAS TALKING ABOUT MYSELF

damn

[warped dome]

Ok I will contact Chedda

[nimble basin]

very good

He was working with vehicle animations too last I saw, maybe you can do something veri spice

[warped dome]

Yeah I could use some of that too

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-parvathy-thiruvothu-parvathy-malayalamryan-innum-konjam-naeram-gif-2173571078214474031

Can't wait to see

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

[red reef]

the vehicles have deformation emeshes as extra chunks afaik

[warped dome]

like actual deformed meshes

that's wild

[red reef]

yeah XD

that's why you have to export cars with LODfilter off

[nimble basin]

Do any of you know what kind of error this is off the top of your heads? That little ring inside the eyepiece? If not no worries, we will fafo

[warped dome]

Check in blender you don't have random vertices around

[warped dome]

or if you have a double lens goig on, that can also be a bug, had this with nvgs

[nimble basin]

I think it does have two sides, I'll try that too

[warped dome]

meaning you can only make a single lens

the other must not exist

[nimble basin]

I gotcha I gotcha

[nimble basin]

I'll have what she's having

[warped dome]

[red reef]

👀

[nimble basin]

You weren't there, man

[warped dome]

I revive this chat

With advanced WIP

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-wwe-uh-huh-okay-shocked-gif-17531281

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-woah-mind-blown-gif-20874328

They are beautiful

[warped dome]

Got all non colors done, got most of the custom ones done

Just the colorful bunch left and some refit adjsutements

and the usual icons shenanigans

[nimble basin]

I've been slacking on my project, but I'll pick it back up soon

Wanna try out this Arena Breakout business

[warped dome]

i been playing the dlc

idk how tf is sunday now

got way too immersed

[nimble basin]

based

I need to hurry and do that too before I come across a spoiler in this place

[warped dome]

Yah I managed to avoid most

Man this dlc is so good

Makes the main game look like filler content

You'll see

[nimble basin]

That's great

I'm prob gonna play from the start since it's been a while

Damn what game is that

boys drippin

[warped dome]

Halo reach

[red reef]

niiiice :3

are those the tabi shoes?

can I scratch them from the list?

[warped dome]

It's those boots I showed here before

[red reef]

ahh, ok :3 then I won't scratch the tabi ones from my to-do

[warped dome]

Is it possible to have multiple compartments open up on a car?

[red reef]

I bet?

[warped dome]

My partner said its not

Rest

[red reef]

[warped dome]

So here's the thing. If I use base\materials\vehicle_destr_blendshape.mt then literally every material is unbelievably shiny and reflective.

If I use the standard multilayered, then it's fine

But then i lose the dynamic scrathches on impacts

How do vanilla cars do this

[warped dome]

i give up

[nimble basin]

[red reef]

[warped dome]

Why my prop failing

the "default" appearance is invisible

Its literally 3 files, how can i fuck this up

[nimble basin]

Is this your first time doing props?

[warped dome]

no

i mean i duped the appearance

and that duped one works

where is the fail man

that's literally all i have

[nimble basin]

mmm blasters

What does it look like in the mesh preview?

[warped dome]

it works anyway, it's just that it initially spawns with a "default" entry

here i replaced all default with variant

but

when i first spawn it

look at variants

idk whats going on

i don't have a "default"

Maybe Mana knows

[nimble basin]

I feel like I've had this error before but I can't remember what I did to do it

[warped dome]

well let me know if you remember

[nimble basin]

How do your ent components look?

[warped dome]

the shots are above thats literally all there is

[nimble basin]

Your defaultAppearance doesn't exist

[warped dome]

you mean that one has an effect

[nimble basin]

idk

[warped dome]

oh wow it was that lmao

that wasn't doing shit on my npv

so i disregarded it here too

Gracias

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/fancy-tuxedo-winnie-the-pooh-gif-15693976

[warped dome]

then why isnt it doing shit on my npv

[nimble basin]

idk I've never done an npv before

[warped dome]

make one

its fun and engaging

especially for your desk

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/detroit-become-human-connor-gif-27636173

[warped dome]

My desk in particular remembers my NPV

[nimble basin]

lmfao

[warped dome]

So does my keyboard

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-smash-gif-24651653

[red reef]

check file validation

😛

[warped dome]

it wasnt saying anthing

but i fixed anyway

[red reef]

what? 👀 It should warn you about that... did you turn it off?

[warped dome]

nooooo

[red reef]

ffs

[warped dome]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the text is now WHITE

i wasnt checking the logs because i was used to seeing yellow warnings

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-falling-backwards-cat-falling-fainting-gif-2147915943057436213

[red reef]

And here I thought I broke it

[warped dome]

why did you guys change it to white instead of yellow

[red reef]

because it's only an issue for props

but it'll also yell if it's a root entity for clothing items or NPCs

[warped dome]

Imo warnings (things that don't crash the game) but have some impact should be yellow

white is kinda you know

neutral

[red reef]

nah

white is FYI

it does say "important"

users get nervous if there's yellow text

[nimble basin]

I get nervous when I see anything that isn't green

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-hamster-sad-hamster-meme-meme-violin-gif-12427766965802345224

[warped dome]

fact

[warped dome]

But if you say "important" why put it with white

[red reef]

because it's "info"

the "important" is only there so we can tell people we told them so

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-who-me-annie-murphy-pop-tv-gif-19520441

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/got-em-lmao-mind-blown-squad-gif-17265113

[warped dome]

ok dats it

I quit modding

Rest in piss

[nimble basin]

Can I have your Nexus account for premium?

Thanks

[warped dome]

why you need premium

[nimble basin]

Wabbajack

[warped dome]

you wanna see the supporter image section?

[nimble basin]

o_o

[red reef]

oh, hey

I took a screenshot yesterday 😄

[warped dome]

I do actually have some supporter section worthy shots to post

[nimble basin]

It's goood, I enjoyed seeing folks get creative with those

[nimble basin]

SHOW

[warped dome]

You can see them on Hyst's EVB thumbnail

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/flush-discord-sunglasses-shocked-emoji-gif-26103508

[warped dome]

That's the only NSFW i did

in my entire vp career

[nimble basin]

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

bud

[warped dome]

REAL BRO

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/sounds-a-bit-dodgy-peter-rabbit-benjamin-bunny-peter-rabbit2-the-runaway-gif-20962818

[warped dome]

It's real

[nimble basin]

I'm not judging lmao

This is probably my favorite out of my more recent photos

[warped dome]

very nice

[nimble basin]

ty ty

[red reef]

is. Looks as if someone'S about to drop poison in the wine any second lmao

[nimble basin]

lmao

Meredith would definitely do it to ya

[red reef]

In corporate circles, isn't that just "pepping up your boring drink"?

[nimble basin]

Hmm

[warped dome]

Hey Mana, any idea why my garment support is working in reverse?

I kid you not, I put garment support on holster, with these settings, but every vanilla pants and my own custom pants squish it, instea, the holster should be squishing them

Quite comedic I know

[red reef]

nice 😄 no idea

[warped dome]

[warped dome]

https://tenor.com/view/flipyyy-gif-1768078456175931673

[warped dome]

I'm literally the only idiot that can get such errors

I> successfully implements GS
/> It works in reverse

[rigid timber]

which holster is it?

is it this one? If so it was a nightmare getting the GS to work. Just changing the components wasn't enough

[warped dome]

Yeahh this

I refitted mine skin tight

Still aded GS but it works in reverse for some reason

What you did to get it work?

[warped dome]

My mesh is black, i don't see my mistake

Man I swear this only happens to me

[warped dome]

ok i fixed it

And i found what's borking the file validation too

instead of material i wrote holster

file validation ain't picking this and it also broke it

[red reef]

i'll take a look at that later today, if you haven't seen an update in 5h, please poke me with a stick

[warped dome]

I don't know when updates come anyway

[red reef]

probably failed at parsing... something

[warped dome]

Also nice appearance expansion thingy

When did this one come

[red reef]

dropped over the last two or three weeks, because psi is insane

I haven't understood all of it yet, let alone documented...

[warped dome]

I don't know anything, I just followed the guide and it works so I'm using it

[red reef]

fair, yeah 😄

psi's stuff is So Good

It can do so much more, IslandDancer is working on that. BUt I haven't started wrapping my head around it yet

[warped dome]

I mean, what else is there to even dnamically allocate

Because at this point almost everything is done

Except the appearances array

Kinda approaching an upper limit

@nimble basin Maybe for you https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/sci-fi-character/helmet-gas-mask-scifi-military-combat

[nimble basin]

Damn that is SICK

https://streamable.com/595i2g trying to finish my side, side project

[warped dome]

damn sick

[nimble basin]

nou

[warped dome]

I have like 6 colors left

[nimble basin]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-pudding-gif-4526560800710679258

It goin hard

[rigid timber]

These go HARD

[rigid timber]

You fixed the GS?

[warped dome]

[warped dome]

No,

that was for dynamic materials

GS still works in reverse

I disabled it for now

[rigid timber]

There’s a process in Blender that I used. I’ll send you the google doc about it when I get to my pc

[warped dome]

Something different than the one in the wiki?

because GS works just fine, except the holster is the one getting squished

[rigid timber]

Uhh not sure. It involves shrinkwraps

[warped dome]

well yeah

i have a shrinkwrapped applied to it

It shouldn't need it because it's not going to get shrinkned by anything

but i added it just to confirm my GS works

and it does

[rigid timber]

Hmm well I’ll send it anyway. It might not be any different than the wiki though

There was something else too I gotta ask my boy who helped me

[red reef]

make sure that your base is actually bigger

[warped dome]

It is, this is literally max

[red reef]

hmmm, then idk

maybe ask in axl

[warped dome]

If you guys can somehow make the appearances array also be dynamically allocated, that's be top tier. it's literally the only repetitive part of axl left

Ultimate axl

[red reef]

you can though

check the last paragraph of the dynamic thing

[warped dome]

The chunk materials? Yeah I did that

I have 27 entries with just names

No chunk materials

I meant getting down the appearance array to literally 1 element

If I'm using the same mlsetup name as the name I use in appearance array, wouldn't that be able to be parsed dynamically somehow?

Of course I'm kinda talking out my ass here because I dont know the inner working of axl

I wouldn't even know what would work in there, maybe a property interpolation like with_{material}

But this is the last repetitive thing left in Axl, and I guess the yaml maybe? Ik we have instances now but perhaps those can be simplified further

Then again I'm just a sad appearance modder, these ideas are coming out my ass, they may not not even be possible

[red reef]

empty chunk materials

[warped dome]

yeah, that's what i said

I did it

[red reef]

ah, ok

yeah, psi is thinkig about hooking it up to the rest of the stuff, so that you can integrate it with the dynamic appearances

but not right now

[warped dome]

all works and nice

I meant if yeah, can everything be nuked so we have just the one appearance there

well, sick if it's possible thenn

[red reef]

will be one day

[warped dome]

@nimble basin You know what else would be cool to port, an exo skeleton of some kind, I haven't looked on many models but if you happen to find one sci-fi/cyberpunk looking, send a link, paid ones too

[warped dome]

We have better garment support (i just enlarged the base of it). it's going to look better with cargo-like pants

[rigid timber]

These look fire

[rigid timber]

An Elysium style exo-skeleton would be sick

[warped dome]

yeahhhhh

I'd port one if there was an HQ mesh somewhere

[warped dome]

[rigid timber]

I’ll try to find something like it. Would be sick if there was an actual Elysium one somewhere

[warped dome]

Even if it's paid (unlikely to find one free)

Just send link

[rigid timber]

Ya definitely

[warped dome]

And exo suit would be totally sick

I'd definitely port one

[warped dome]

But it must be like this, meanning this close to the body

I don't want to deal with weights too much

[rigid timber]

Like Crysis style?

https://tenor.com/view/crysis-prophet-gaming-gif-17320683

[warped dome]

This would be good too, but it's more of a suit than a exosuit

well, whateves you can find, putting stuff on my list of potential ports is good

[rigid timber]

just not sure what an exo suit looks like

[warped dome]

well its exactly this

It's more of an exoskeleton

[rigid timber]

Ok got it!

The Elysium one is probably my favorite

[warped dome]

Same, but doubt someone made something like this

[rigid timber]

I found one but it’s meant to be used to be 3D printed

So I don’t think it’s game ready

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/fashion/elysium-max-exoskeleton/similar-designs

[warped dome]

well i can't even check it, download button doesnt work

[rigid timber]

Ya the site looked pretty garbage

Bummer

https://grabcad.com/library/elysium-max-exoskeleton-1

Just another random one

[warped dome]

I actually managed to get this in blender

but man, it's not good

[rigid timber]

Fuck it then don’t waste time on it then

It was the only one I found unfortunately

[warped dome]

the whole thing is 1 million polygons

even if i were to assemble it in blender

refit and everything

1 million polygons just crashes the game

plus it has no UVs at all

[rigid timber]

Ya thats just a no all the way around

Rip

[warped dome]

[rigid timber]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-pack-bozo-dead-gif-20309754

[nimble basin]

Believe in yourself

[warped dome]

[nimble basin]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/ninja-exo-c9d09ab791fc42db94df8b2205c61a6f Is this the right idea?

[warped dome]

Idea yes

This mesh is very basic though

not worth

Wait, how the hell did wkit import a 82k mesh

Pardon?

[nimble basin]

Sus

[red reef]

maybe you can make one from the netrunner suit somehow

[warped dome]

that one is embedded into the bodysuit, would be too much work

[red reef]

<nods>

[warped dome]

Hey Mana

There's some weird things going on with GS

[red reef]

hey 🙂

really?

Might wanna take it to #textures-and-models then, because we need bigger brains than mine

[warped dome]

Asking, maybe you know

It's in relation to EEX

Seems like only certain leg slots activate GS

[red reef]

ah, that may be

EEX slots have different weights by default

[warped dome]

like it works here

not here

[red reef]

yeah

outer legs has a higher gs than middle legs

[warped dome]

Ah, like the GS score you mean in the wiki?

Maybe that'd explain what's going on with my holster

[red reef]

yeah

[warped dome]

Aight

Thanks

Didn't know this overrides the score of the item

[red reef]

it doesn't override

it may add or subtract 10

[warped dome]

Hmm

Well, at least male refit is here with GS

We learn more things everyday, didn't know EEX has an effect on GS

[red reef]

at some point, I'll implement yaml parsing, and then we can scan the entire AXL project from start to finish

[warped dome]

This is for file validation?

[red reef]

eventually 😄

[warped dome]

[red reef]

but I also want the Wolvenkit controls to be smarter

[warped dome]

I don't know what this means, but I belkeve you it's very good

[warped dome]

Ah you meant validating substitution paths?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589011383652319271/1239190437961535569/Video_4590_www.reddit.watch.mp4?ex=6646a2c7&is=66455147&hm=af166a3f46967711953c243843498d257c399d3276617f12a12ef72bd5137394&

[red reef]

in general being smarter about validating things

[warped dome]

Ah

You managed to figure out that {material} thing from yesterday

[red reef]

no, I forgot

[warped dome]

It be

Well it's a replicable bug at least

[nimble basin]

Hmmm

Is it possible to have these work tucked and untucked?

[warped dome]

Ill put a misc file without GS

so whatever it is, will go over but it may clip

however, tucked looks really good and it's irl military way of doing it

[nimble basin]

Without clipping I mean, I've never seen anything do boots like that properly

It depends on the military and unit, untucked boots are sometimes the norm

[warped dome]

As far as I know it's tucked

[nimble basin]

But that doesn't matter, I'm only after style

[warped dome]

I like them tucked in actually

The boots are agressive, worth showing off

Rather than hiding them over with pants

I will have 2 versions

The one you see here is with the opening widened

so things can tuck in even withmodded bodies

and not clip into skin

and another one that you saw initially

that one is very tight and stuff can go over it as it is already

[nimble basin]

Very sick

[warped dome]

I will try finish the mod today

Definitely dropping it on 25th

[red reef]

awesome

If you want, Vee can model. That's her kind of footwear

[warped dome]

Vee?

[red reef]

Takemura Vee

Tourist fixer and part-time model

[warped dome]

Ah yeah I can send you

[nimble basin]

Just for ref tho, for US SOF it's the norm. Though sometimes it wouldn't be practical to blouse anyway because they aren't using a full boot

[warped dome]

Ok cabron