R18 (suspended)

[lofty thistle]

A new mod attempting to restore the 2018 demo! About 50% there already.

Made by null and L3X4R's

[lofty thistle]

Hey everyone

I'm announcing that R18 will be done as a collaboration between L3X4R's and me.

AKA. WT3WD, who made E3 2019 Lighting Mod and E3 2018 Lighting Mod

[steady glacier]

May be a stupid question, but do you mean remaking/restoring only the demo segments, or do you mean restoring the 2018 visuals/lighting/weather?

Also, if it is a visual restoration, will you guys be making any changes to the weather probability?

[lofty thistle]

I'm restoring the visuals only, maybe later the demo segments with a full team of modders. I'll for sure be making changes to the weather probability, I like to make them all have an equal chance.

[steady glacier]

Okay cool 😅 I was just a little unsure of what you meant by "attempting to restore the 2018 demo". This is great news though, I really want a definitive 2018 E3 mod that I can stick with, I think my favorite is POOP3R (funny name I know) but it has a lot of issues and doesn't change the weather.

[lofty thistle]

I love poope3r

I made it

[steady glacier]

lmao fr?

[lofty thistle]

yup

[steady glacier]

Damn, props to you then, it's my favorite

looks amazing

[steady glacier]

I hope you take a lot of inspo from POOP3R into this mod

[lofty thistle]

I love it, but that's just not what I want to do right now

One day I'll make my ultimate mod

POOPE3R colors, 2018 lighting, 2019 atmosphere

[steady glacier]

that sounds like a dream come true

lmao

[lofty thistle]

and weather like NLA, an old project you probably don't know...

and not Skyrim NLA

that was unfortunate naming on my part lmao

[steady glacier]

yeah never heard of NLA

[lofty thistle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/2409

It's broken as fuck, doesn't work

[steady glacier]

looks cool though

[lofty thistle]

was

actually

i had a sequel going on based off POOPE3R

[steady glacier]

damn

what happened to it

[lofty thistle]

i stopped working ob nit

[steady glacier]

rip

well anyway, what niche is this mod going to fit into?

I'm assuming you're aiming for like total 100% purist 2018 type look, right?

[lofty thistle]

100% 100%

Went like that with 2019

L3X4R, respectfully, doesn't get close

He's a cool guy

his mod looks better though imo

I want to eventually be able to create a full recreation of the 2018 video one day

All 48 minutes 100% identical

[steady glacier]

Agreed, no offense to him though.

[lofty thistle]

for sure

[steady glacier]

That'd be cool, but honestly I'm more interested in making the full game like the 2018 build, minus all the issues with said 2018 build

so this mod sounds perfect for me

R18

[lofty thistle]

R18

https://youtu.be/AYYwmzLg350

here you go

been looking for it

NLA's sequel

a bit of alpha footage

I still have it lying around

[steady glacier]

wow that looks pretty damn good

[lofty thistle]

there's a few seconds of stillness lmao

[steady glacier]

yeah lol

[lofty thistle]

VLC sucks

[steady glacier]

but those poop3r colors really make that shit pop

even in rain

[lofty thistle]

windows media player on top

oh yeah

POOPE3R has some of the best colors i've seen in video games

[steady glacier]

fr

[lofty thistle]

Dunno how I managed it

[steady glacier]

Yeah that shit looked so good it almost made me use it despite all the issues it has currently

[lofty thistle]

yeah

I'll fix it actually

Have the time

[steady glacier]

I mean yeah, if you want to lmao, go ahead

I'll def try this mod out too though

[lofty thistle]

L3X4R isn't available right now so I have a lot of time before the project gets started truly

if you don't mind what are the issues in poope3r right now?

[steady glacier]

There are many issues in missions with interiors, konpeki plaza for instance

[lofty thistle]

oh right

my bane

INTERIORS

[steady glacier]

it gets unbelievably dark

[lofty thistle]

yupp

[steady glacier]

same with the eye scanner, but you know that

[lofty thistle]

hate eye scanner

[steady glacier]

also, not sure if it has any weather alterations, but I'd like some probability changes

[lofty thistle]

okay, okay

seems simple enough for right now

[steady glacier]

other than that, I don't think I encountered any more issues, I did have to turn my gamma up a little though in general, days looked a bit too dark

the colors during day are good, I just think they are slightly unnaturally dark

if that makes sense

might just be me though

[lofty thistle]

Oh. I already realize my mistakes lol

used centerimportance rather than compensation

note to everybody making weather mods: exposureCenterImportance sucks

[steady glacier]

damn

I don't know shit about that, but if you need testing I can

[lofty thistle]

Don't worry

Well

i'll send it your way soon okay

This shit looks actually magical

[steady glacier]

yeah that looks amazing

[steady glacier]

preem

[lofty thistle]

wow

did a small update, interiors should be feex

[steady glacier]

pretty sure I got these with POOP3R

[lofty thistle]

now a redmod too

[steady glacier]

epic

[lofty thistle]

yeah you did looks like it

to me sunny weather is clody but my install is shit

oh well...

[steady glacier]

any plans to tweak probability?

[lofty thistle]

actually

[steady glacier]

why is day so dark?

[lofty thistle]

yup

exactly

[steady glacier]

💀

[lofty thistle]

just

ignore this

thought it was gonna be as simple as 1, 2, 3

but as always with this game

NOTHING FUCKING WORKS

[steady glacier]

ofc ofc

[lofty thistle]

lmao

[steady glacier]

but like you said, you got time, may as well update the best visual mod currently on nexus

[lofty thistle]

well

I'll take some time for it

For right now, I have to get R18 started

[steady glacier]

fair I guess, well let me know if you manage to fix shit with POOP3R, as I said, I can help test

not sure what visual mod to use until then

[lofty thistle]

R19

promise you'll enjoy it

best experienced with rt

[steady glacier]

Hmm, even though I dislike how the 2019 version looked, fine

I'll at least give it a shot

[lofty thistle]

oh yeah me too

bit I grew so attached to it

[steady glacier]

not bad

[steady glacier]

wait my bad, forgot to use wolvenkit for it

that's vanilla

💀

Here we go

[steady glacier]

is that R18?

[lofty thistle]

yes

[steady glacier]

that looks amazing

[lofty thistle]

indeed

[steady glacier]

something about that 2018 lighting just hits different

[lofty thistle]

in the light it's even better

[steady glacier]

reminds me so much of this part

2018 version just looked so natural

[lofty thistle]

I'll see if I can match the light direction

I think LEXAR can do that though, he once got it literally identical

[steady glacier]

that'd be great

[lofty thistle]

https://github.com/nullfrctl/R18/commit/2577f94c1441e4db13984ebadd27b50c888bc306

there's the repo and commit

[steady glacier]

awesome

[lofty thistle]

so if you wanna test out yourself just use R18.zip and disable R19 in WolvenKit mod manager

[steady glacier]

Yeah I'm reinstalling my game since I fucked my save, just gunna start clean

I'll use it then

[lofty thistle]

oh god

you didn't delete archive/pc/content

right

or did you just nuke it in steam

[steady glacier]

Nah I legit just uninstalled everything to do with Vortex and Cyberpunk, wiped the folders

[lofty thistle]

personally, I just delete everything but archive/pc/content

so i dont have to do 70gig download

[steady glacier]

That's fair but idrc about that

[lofty thistle]

fair, fair

[steady glacier]

I'm more sad that my 30 hour playthrough is bricked

[lofty thistle]

it's just i live in the middle of nowhere and my internet sucks

[steady glacier]

I test too much clearly

[lofty thistle]

with RT it looks identical

nearly

[steady glacier]

god dayum

that is stunning

[lofty thistle]

i feel like if i just flip the sun around it'll work

[steady glacier]

also it's like my first time using Wolven so I was having trouble trying to get that shit to work with my Vortex mods, for some reason it was being stupid

[steady glacier]

hmmm

maybe

[lofty thistle]

AND IT DOES

oh jeez

mkv doesn't work on discord???

[steady glacier]

it's ok I'll just download it

holy fuck

dude

that looks exactly like the demo vid

wtf

like

exactly

[lofty thistle]

magic

[steady glacier]

crazy

[lofty thistle]

hehehehe

needs tweaking

this was after an hour

think of what lexar + me and more time can do

[steady glacier]

best mod on nexus

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

you guys should make a vid of the demo and your mod

like side by side

as a trailer

[lofty thistle]

that's the plan friend

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-mcvicker-tyler-vnn-valve-news-network-happy-gif-23427663

[lofty thistle]

tylerPog

[steady glacier]

lmao

[lofty thistle]

a re-record with mp4

and also 2fps because my 3070 is dying

[steady glacier]

lmfao I was about to say

surprised a 3070 is dying though

[lofty thistle]

i have like an OP ass rt config

it literally drains my FPS to 8 in dense areas

[steady glacier]

jesus

[lofty thistle]

but it looks

amazing

[steady glacier]

I like visuals, but not that much, in your case it makes sense though

for screenshots and shit

[lofty thistle]

yup

and R18 really works with RT

ok now with acceptable framerates

[steady glacier]

low effort shitpost

[lofty thistle]

best shitpost ever

[steady glacier]

still looks super good

so that'll be what it looks like for people who aren't used to playing slideshows

[lofty thistle]

mhmm

[steady glacier]

damn man, you exceeded expectations already

it's crazy how close the actual game looks to that E3 demo, people say it got downgraded but in reality the game got visually upgraded, the lighting was simply drastically changed

not sure why they changed it so much, I think it's clear the E3 lighting was the best for the world and assets they crafted, as shown with this mod, but oh well

like something about the E3 lighting looks super real

the colors and everything are just on point

then you got vanilla with this raggedy ass green filter

like bruh

[lofty thistle]

yeah hahha

they were so occupied on making the game work that they forgot to make it look GOOD

[steady glacier]

I mean the game does look good, the lighting is just fucked

like once you tweak the lighting, game looks fucking incredible

[lofty thistle]

mhmm

and my 3070 has buttery smooth gameplay with raster effects

60fps

[steady glacier]

they didn't have to change a lot of the E3 shit tbh, the UI and HUD also looked better and fit the world better

[steady glacier]

yes

[lofty thistle]

for some reason lighting mods make my game run faster

[steady glacier]

same actually lmao

[lofty thistle]

cdpr, bls fix your game

[steady glacier]

with lexar's mod I get like 20 more fps

[lofty thistle]

also for the love of god can someone make tweakxl but for weather

I wanted to do it but im lazy

[steady glacier]

I don't know shit about modding Red engine, otherwise I'd help

or rather, making mods for Red engine

[lofty thistle]

RED engine is a mess but it's a good mess and im sad they're abandoing it

[steady glacier]

everyone is switching to UE rn

it seems like

[lofty thistle]

yup

imagine epic having the right to revoke a game company's access to their engine lmao will totally not be abused

[steady glacier]

Yeah I can already see Epic scumfucking a bunch of devs

oh well

either way you swing it, UE5 is a damn good engine, even if the people who own it are less than ideal

and I'm sure CDPR will be babied by Epic since CDPR is like a premier user of their engine

so I wouldn't worry

[lofty thistle]

UE5 is a damn good engine for sure

I feel like it's gonna be temporary though, you can be sure most game companies are only using UE5 in the meantime to make money while developing their own in-house engine

[steady glacier]

probably tbh lmao

[lofty thistle]

that 15% hurts a lot apparently

[steady glacier]

but UE5's destruction and LOD tech is incredible

[lofty thistle]

idTech 7 >

did it before and better and with Vulkan

[steady glacier]

If Cyberpunk 2077 was built on UE5 bruh it'd have the destruction they originally wanted and no LOD issues

[lofty thistle]

my id fanboy side is showing

but regardless I love idTech and hope that it will go open source in my pipe-dream future

[steady glacier]

Yeah I was about to say, kinda unfeasible for people to use idTechsince it's closed source

[lofty thistle]

DOOM Eternal looked amazing, ran amazing, and had the same features as UE5 some years before

[steady glacier]

looked alright

idk much about idTech

[lofty thistle]

if they made a Wolfenstein game with idTech 7

[steady glacier]

idk man Wolfenstein has started sucking recently

only the Old Blood and New Order were good

[lofty thistle]

I liked the new colossus

mostly because of the scenery

[steady glacier]

the level design and story in NC sucked but yeah it was kinda pretty

[lofty thistle]

those art designers are damn good with that franchise

retrofuturistic dieselpunk cyberpunk aesthetic with real-world 1960s influences

[steady glacier]

on god

[lofty thistle]

I think TNO's art design still holds up

if they had access to the 4k textures of idTech 6 you betcha it'd still hold up

[steady glacier]

yeah TNO has some serious engine issues but it still looks really good despite that

TOB is also very pretty

[lofty thistle]

TOB is amazing in general, but since I like crying I played it on the hardest difficulty and it took me a literal week to finish the final boss fight

[steady glacier]

lmao

[lofty thistle]

love how the cutscenes were still first person

immersive game design is better than anything else

[steady glacier]

yeah that part was cool, more FPS games need first person only cutscenes

like Cyberpunk, for instance

[lofty thistle]

I kind of like how Cyberpunk has no cutscenes

that's one part that they improved in from E3

[steady glacier]

agreed

people complain about that, but it'd be super unimmersive and limit the players roleplaying ability

[lofty thistle]

mhmm

as i said immersive game design best game design

[steady glacier]

fr

[lofty thistle]

love how this chat is basically now my own discussion realm where i can talk with people with similar interests

[steady glacier]

yeah lmao we prob shoulda taken it to dms but your shit is set to not accepting friend requests

[lofty thistle]

well, then

[steady glacier]

lmao

[lofty thistle]

[inner tendon]

I just have ONE desire null...

Please make the R18 look good without RTX

I have an RTX 2060, so rtx is off for me.

There's an E3 LUT, only looks good with rtx. Without that, it bugs

[steady glacier]

he already sent a vid, even without RTX it looks just like the E3 demo

[inner tendon]

Wait, those vids are with rtx off?

[steady glacier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021554955120803870/1021624277843329075/unknown.png

[steady glacier]

the one that isn't running with 2 fps is off yeah

this one

[steady glacier]

^

[inner tendon]

who knows, maybe he has a 3090ti 😂

[steady glacier]

nah he has a 3070, he already sent a vid with RT on

and it was like 2 fps

[inner tendon]

hmm, than it's just mind bending that without rtx it looks like exactly the demo

[steady glacier]

yeah it really is crazy shit

although I don't think the demo used RT

[lofty thistle]

no it didn’t

2019 did

[inner tendon]

Yeah

[steady glacier]

yeah so it'll be easier to make it look EXACTLY like the demo without any RT

so it'll be better for performance

and replicate the look easier

[lofty thistle]

i guess but the baked lighting will make it difficult

[steady glacier]

true, that is the real issue

[inner tendon]

null, with baked light you need to rebake everything?

[lofty thistle]

no

[steady glacier]

nah he means that the demo used baked lighting, it had no properly implemented dynamic lighting or weather system yet

because the game at that time was basically a tech demo

/proof of concept

[inner tendon]

ah, okay

[steady glacier]

so trying to replicate baked lighting with a dynamic system can be difficult

[inner tendon]

One thing to note to make it look better null: As you can see the sunlight is bright af and yellow. The shadows are almost black. I hope for the best, take your time and post teasers so I go crazy 😂

[steady glacier]

e3 demo just looks like real life honestly bruh

no shit green filter

and yeah shadows in the demo are another point to hit

they were very realistic looking

although, I think they'd look better if they were just a tiny bit softer

color is on point though

[sharp bone]

Holy crap it looks amazing. I have been a huge sucker for e3 lighting mods especially since they started to do weird things with the colors in vanilla. I made a lut for myself to personally use that combines both the light colors of 18 during the day and still pops at sunset and night like 2019. I did get rid of alot of the im not sure what the actual word is but when its looks really bright thinks it opaque. Downside is its super dark in dark areas like the Takumara mission in the apartments but I started using simple flashlight for that. Definatley going to try out yours and give any feedback during my current playthrough.

[steady glacier]

https://youtu.be/hOlEq60x7Pk

made a lil stupid vid

just a really shitty comparison vid

[sharp bone]

Not shitty at all. Its so close its scary. And its the closet ive seen to date

[steady glacier]

oh yeah the mod itself is great, I just mean the low effort editing I put into it

[lofty thistle]

took an hour making it

[steady glacier]

TRUE

[sharp bone]

Ehh its good it gets the point across. Atleast you can record. Im going to setup my second pc after all these new gen parts come out. Cause I can record but unless I dial things down its super choppy and I dont like it. So going to start using a second pc with capture card to the main one

[lofty thistle]

don’t ask why i’m still awake i can’t sleep today

[steady glacier]

go to bed

gonk

[lofty thistle]

I AM

[sharp bone]

lol

[lofty thistle]

[steady glacier]

Yeah I'm not the mod creator, I'm just making fan shit because I like mod

but uh

he recorded the gameplay

so

[sharp bone]

Yeah I know. All good

Question would this work on 1.52?

[lofty thistle]

umm

[sharp bone]

I am still using it cause 1.6 and its weird gpu usage bug it has is killing me staying over 60

[lofty thistle]

if you take the .archive file from the zip only and put it in archive pc mod it would work

it’s on github

[steady glacier]

wowieziesisiwiowoiwo
the only thing this mod needs is harsher shadows and less of a blueish hue

[sharp bone]

Ok ill give it a shot. I have both but just preferring 1.52 till hopefully the patch out the issue in 1.6. Either way Ill try it on both

Thank u so much Null

Do u have rtx on? Could explain the tone

[steady glacier]

Nah he didn't in that vid

[sharp bone]

ahh ok

[steady glacier]

the one with rtx was like 2 fps

[sharp bone]

Ill test how smooth it is with all rtx. I was playing at 4k with all rtx except lighting. But now im using 1440 with all rtx and on 1.52 its doing really good. Only that damn city park I go down to like 55fps

[steady glacier]

Damn you must have a better rig than even me

4k with rtx

[sharp bone]

3080ti 5900x

[steady glacier]

ah nice, I got a 2080ti and an i9

I run at max settings 1080p no rtx, on patch 1.6 I usually get like 40-90 fps

[sharp bone]

but even it has some slight hitches with intensive areas. Which are noticable bad on 1.6 another reason im just using the old one for now. Also my Crowd density mod helps alot in cpu bound areas

[steady glacier]

weird

I just run on everything max I never really get hitching, just frame drops in some areas

[sharp bone]

Nice I started playing with 2080ti and 9900k also at release. I used 1440p I think with just relections

[steady glacier]

I don't use DLSS because I hate the sharpening it applies

if I used DLSS I could run with max psycho RTX

but eh

[sharp bone]

ahh yeah I always used dlss

[steady glacier]

I noticed RTX causes a ton of ghosting

for some reason

[sharp bone]

Honestly its not bad. Under 4 k never use higher then quality. But with 4k even performance looks good and almost native. Till you look for things off in the distance

Yeah ghosting is random for me as well. Seems like at certain angles

[steady glacier]

Yeah it's not bad at 4k, but at 1080p the sharpening is too much for me

[sharp bone]

I guess hitching isnt really the word I get like camera movement hiccups. They are like microstutters but a bit more noteciable in certain areas

[steady glacier]

I believe you can turn the sharpening down now though

I'll test it

[steady glacier]

Huh weird, never had that issue

[sharp bone]

Yeah at 4k I used it at 40. At 1440 I have it at like 80

[steady glacier]

I absolutely hate artificial sharpening

it always makes the game look so cheap

[sharp bone]

Yeah I think you are more gpu bound then me and that helps. Probs with the stronger cards cpu becomes the weak part

[steady glacier]

true

game loves the CPU too

with all the NPC's

[sharp bone]

Oh for damn sure lol

Atleast its not as bad as Spider-Man. It makes the cpu even cook its meals lol

[steady glacier]

damn spooderman ran great for me

I think the worst running game I've played to date is Battlefield 2042, holy fucking shit that game is actually so badly optimized that DLSS DECREASES performance and running at a higher res INCREASES it

[sharp bone]

Nice. Runs good for me also but had to put Vsync on fast and frame limiter to slow it down a bit. Then was fine. But all cores still at like 80 percent

Oh damn. I didnt know any game could make dlss do that lol

[steady glacier]

Yeah that's how shit the game is with optimization

it hasn't gotten any better either

the reason DLSS decreases performance is because the game only uses 50% of your GPU and 50-70% of your CPU at all times regardless of specs

[sharp bone]

So it actually causes a gpu bottleneck somehow for it to increase without dlss

damn

[steady glacier]

so by turning up the res, you start using more of your GPU

which makes the game run better

[sharp bone]

That is crazy

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/vaas-far-cry3-that-is-crazy-gif-26006603

[sharp bone]

lol

[lofty thistle]

Based Montenegro

[steady glacier]

@lofty thistle GO TO BED

[sharp bone]

hehe

[lofty thistle]

i am in bed

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-cyberpunk-studio-trigger-netflix-cd-projekt-red-gif-25723821

[lofty thistle]

vaas? more like based

[steady glacier]

Vaas Montenegro is in CYberSlunk 23069 R18 ultra grapfics remaster edition

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry3-do-you-know-the-definition-of-insanity-insane-vaas-montenegro-gif-24445064

[lofty thistle]

ok now i’m actually tied

[sharp bone]

Ok going to try it out now. Im saved at V's apartment so will see how it all looks. Also have to the Malestrom mission also

Ill see it I can record the whole thing

ok on 1.52 interior lighting is really messed up. Going to try full install on 1.6

[inner tendon]

where to download beta?

[steady glacier]

https://github.com/nullfrctl/R18/commit/2577f94c1441e4db13984ebadd27b50c888bc306

[inner tendon]

thanks!

[sharp bone]

Yeah looks great outside just inside has some light bleeding issues and an auto exposure would help with being really bright like through the apartment window and the light by the elevator. Also looks like motion blur is disabled and volumetric fog is set to low?

But damn it is so close its unreal. Even inside the apartment as soon as I loaded it looks exactly like 2018 vid

The way the color is with the lighting etc

[inner tendon]

@sharp bone

can you please help me install the mod?

there are multiple r18s

that's why I ask

[sharp bone]

you have version 1.6 and redmod?

[inner tendon]

yes, of course

[sharp bone]

oh ok maybe I got the wrong one lol ill check

oh no its just the zip one you download I think

[inner tendon]

zip in zip

+packed has r18 too

[steady glacier]

I need this fucking song for the showcase vid

URHGHGH

[inner tendon]

what are those noises?

[steady glacier]

it's clipped from the E3 demo

[sharp bone]

huh im not sure myself about the install

[steady glacier]

I can't figure out where the music is from

or if it's on the OST

[sharp bone]

Its from the cutscene when V is in the bed

[inner tendon]

don't clip, use my list

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgJ865xDygPDqwTsebCZ3B24u1dp5gtBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5jsUfsqcO0&list=PLgJ865xDygPDqwTsebCZ3B24u1dp5gtBO&index=7&ab_channel=Dayker

[steady glacier]

yes

[steady glacier]

THANK YOU

[sharp bone]

was a e3 only song from the scrapped cutscenes

[steady glacier]

dude that's like the best fucking song

[inner tendon]

it is

it's THE cyberpunk song

[steady glacier]

the cyberpunk is real

devs on their way to cut everything good and feasible out of the E3 demo:

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-running-me-when-im-late-tom-hanks-gif-5144739

[sharp bone]

I could make it as a main menu song

[steady glacier]

absolutely

it'd be perfect

[sharp bone]

Is there a link to the actual mp4 of it?

[inner tendon]

i just don't know why they deleted and cut stuff, If I would be them I would have packed assets into a file and store it, because who know what other people can do

cdpr knew that modders will come in

and they just erased the old cp

[steady glacier]

I'll give ya one

[sharp bone]

ok thanks. Ill work on it tomorrow

[steady glacier]

I don't even care that they cut the super ambitious stuff, I just wish they would have kept all the music, UI, and lighting

shit that didn't need to be changed

but was anyway

[inner tendon]

true, very true

[sharp bone]

I already have my end credit never fade away menu music mod so Ill just put this in over it

[steady glacier]

but it's ok, we have mods

[inner tendon]

can somebody help me install the r18?

😂

[sharp bone]

ill download the whole thing and look

[inner tendon]

okay

[steady glacier]

here

[inner tendon]

is it 320kb?

[sharp bone]

ok downloaded it. Thank u

[inner tendon]

nope, it's 160

@sharp bone

don't start working

I'll send it in 320kb/s bitrate

[steady glacier]

oh ok

he has 4k uhd version

[sharp bone]

hmm I have both try the bigger size one

I put the smaller one had some issues maybe thats why

[inner tendon]

5.26mb vs 2.63mb

[sharp bone]

Oh you mean the archive or the song?

[steady glacier]

song

[inner tendon]

no, the mp3

[sharp bone]

Ahh ok there also two size different archives for r18

[steady glacier]

@sharp bone use this one instead of the one I sent, it's better quality

[inner tendon]

mine is 320kb/s and his is only 160kb/s. Less noise with mine

[sharp bone]

ok

[steady glacier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/614768683495194626/1021577237469859930/monsters-vs-aliens-jello.gif

[sharp bone]

oh nvm im dumb both Archive are the same size

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk2077-cd-projekt-cd-projekt-red-arasaka-parade-gif-19596409

me trying to touch the 2018 demo

(the pain is too great)

[sharp bone]

actually Ill try and do the mod real quick. I dont need new wolvenkit for that

[inner tendon]

figured out, had to remove weather randomiser

[sharp bone]

ahh ok

[inner tendon]

i dunno, the tonemapping is too hard for me

it has the same method of other luts

[sharp bone]

Is the interior messed up for you also or just me?

[inner tendon]

haven't checked, give me some time

lemme see

[steady glacier]

I'm just going to test it on pure vanilla while I have the oppertunity

[sharp bone]

I havent seen other lut mimic the right lighting though. Color is similar but like I said its working with the lighting well

[steady glacier]

Yeah exactly, most of the other LUT's just make everything have no shadows and wash the entire game out, then they call it a day

POOP3R is/was the best looking E3 lighting mod until this one

which is made by null too

[inner tendon]

hmm, checked

[sharp bone]

Yeah thats why in mine first thing I got rid of is the washed out. But Im not skilled enough to make ledgit changes to the enviroment and lights

[inner tendon]

well it seems like interiors are way brighter than they should be, like there little or no shadows

but eye adaptation is on point

[sharp bone]

for me adaptation is off but yeah same brightness for actual interior lighting for me as well

exposure did get better with rtx off though

[steady glacier]

this is POOP3R, prob the best E3 attempt until this mod, like I said

[inner tendon]

it's not on nexus

[sharp bone]

yup very nice I tried it before. On my oled was just a bit too dark was all

[steady glacier]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/4255?tab=description

[sharp bone]

Yeah its still there

[steady glacier]

It was dark for me too during days, had to turn gamma up by .10

[sharp bone]

I have it saved also

[steady glacier]

POOP3R has really bad issues though despite looking great at certain times

[sharp bone]

Same I tried to adjust gamma but kind of ruined the look for me

prob just my setup. that why I made the one for my setup

[steady glacier]

fair

anyway this R18 mod is way more accurate and pretty than POOP3R imo

[sharp bone]

how mine looks

[steady glacier]

not too bad

[sharp bone]

But once this one is dialed in I am going to rock only this one. The outside look is to die for in r18

[steady glacier]

yeah fr

looks insanely close to demo

surprised it's even possible without baked lighting, just goes to show that THEY DIDN'T NEED TO FUCK WITH SHIT LIKE LIGHTING AFTER DEMO

💀

[inner tendon]

guys, is this the intented look?

[sharp bone]

I think the prob is that demo wasnt real. They do have files in the game but they are from another engine

[steady glacier]

no

[inner tendon]

HMm

[steady glacier]

They aren't from another engine, the demo was real, it just had baked lighting

the demo was just that though, a demo

as I said, idc that they took away useless ambitious features like advertisements pointing you to vendors

[sharp bone]

ahh ok im not sure. Its been a while since I looked at them in wolvenkit but they looked different

[steady glacier]

I just want the old UI and lighting

which is something they could have obviously very easily stuck with

but they didn't

for some reason

[inner tendon]

fr no?

[steady glacier]

nah it shouldn't be that lit up

could just be the whether though

if it's foggy

sometimes the game does that

[sharp bone]

I think the gamma might be high

what is your gamma at?

Mine is 1.04

[inner tendon]

ingame?

[sharp bone]

yeah

[inner tendon]

cannot check it

where is it?

[steady glacier]

I mean yeah it was probably developed in an entirely different way than the base game, but the demo UI, lighting, etc. itself was still feasible in game, if it weren't, mods couldn't exist like this one that 1 to 1 replicate exactly how the demo looked

[steady glacier]

display

[inner tendon]

than that's not ingame

[steady glacier]

display settings

in the in game settings

and if it's not there, then it's under graphics

forgot which one it's under

[inner tendon]

there's no gamma in cp

[steady glacier]

bro yes there is lmao

[inner tendon]

oh, wtf

[sharp bone]

Very true and probably is the case. Probably changed their dev approach and prob part of the reason why they seemed to get in over their head.

[inner tendon]

never seen it

mine is at 1.0

[sharp bone]

yeah thats default I think

[inner tendon]

should i go for 1.05?

it looks like this rn

[steady glacier]

Yeah, just wish they coulda kept the UI and lighting the same, the assets in the game almost seem designed around that old 2018 lighting, like these curb things for instance, the light almost shines through their faded transparent glass, and makes them look truly real, like they are a part of the scene. Base game just doesn't have shit like this.

[steady glacier]

actually

that looks about right

take a screenshot in the sun

[steady glacier]

and as for UI, it seemed more fitting for the vibe, it was cleaner and more organic, felt like more of a part of the world

[inner tendon]

yeah

to be exact:

it felt like an implant

not a 2d ui, but rather a 3D, live part of v

[steady glacier]

yeah

there's a reason Edgerunners uses that 2018 style UI

cause it's supposed to be part of your brain interface

[inner tendon]

yeah

exactly

i just hope spicy fixes the ui

he already works on the inventory from 2018

sheesh

that guy is on something

[steady glacier]

yeah 2018 hud mod is great but it needs all the bells and whistles into one pack

needs a lot still done

[steady glacier]

he is enslaved for eternity to make E3 ui mods

[sharp bone]

man I hate how wolvenkit sometimes closes on my the first time I go to pack a file

Music mod is almost done

[steady glacier]

I fucking hate wolvenkit

main reason I won't use R19

[inner tendon]

yeah, the main thing i hope he makes are the chat options

those were clean

[steady glacier]

everything about that old UI was clean

https://tenor.com/view/yummers-the-boys-homelander-gif-26204488

[inner tendon]

facts

[steady glacier]

new UI is so shit in comparison

all blue and yellow

super convoluted

[inner tendon]

yeah, i fix myself: eye adaptation is also off, still too slow.

[inner tendon]

i think it looks cool and all

fits the new graphics

but it's plasticy

[steady glacier]

take a pic of you standing in the sun instead of the shadows

[inner tendon]

doesn't give the dark and serius vibes

[steady glacier]

agreed

[steady glacier]

ah yes the new GREEN lighting

[inner tendon]

fck green

[steady glacier]

why'd the make the lighting have some shitty green filter, this isn't 2010 anymore, nobody thinks throwing a filter on your game = good graphics

💀

[inner tendon]

sent it

[steady glacier]

hmmm

seems a little too bright

[inner tendon]

it is infact

don't know why

[steady glacier]

try and match your gamma to this screenshot

if possible

[inner tendon]

maybe this much

[steady glacier]

yeah that seems a little closer

like I said though, I think it has a little too much of a blueish hue

[inner tendon]

ye

[steady glacier]

see what I mean?

demo has like no hue

/filter

[inner tendon]

exactly

the sun is bright and yellow

no tint

[steady glacier]

yes

[inner tendon]

shadows are blackish

[steady glacier]

it looks real

[steady glacier]

this too, it adds a lot of depth to surfaces in darkness

top one is demo

[inner tendon]

hmm

i think it's because of volumetrics missing

[steady glacier]

could be

[inner tendon]

there's a fog of some sort in the base game

[steady glacier]

other than the shadows and the blueish filter though, the video that null sent is on point

and volumetrics, I guess

[inner tendon]

maybe he recorded a more up to date version

maybe the github one is older

[steady glacier]

could be

he just made it in like an hour

I'm just giving feedback

final version will prob look exactly like the demo as long as they follow the entire 48 minute video and take inspiration from it

[sharp bone]

Ok its working. Had a weird issues where inputs got blocked for some reason but fixed it. Ill give you all a gdrive link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12KEX1nKaTT9OAYERHdJ03bPbHdR23bhe/view?usp=sharing @steady glacier @inner tendon Here ya go

[steady glacier]

cool

[inner tendon]

noice

[steady glacier]

updated my little showcase a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvnsEWsb4-I

I'll prob record some of my own gameplay for it

cause why not

[sharp bone]

nice

[steady glacier]

that song goes so fucking hard though

thank you for the mod

[sharp bone]

no prob

Feel free to put on Nexus if you want. Just throw me a shout. Ive been struggling with posting mods since not everyone is happy with stuff and kind of get down on myself when I hear it lol

Plus this wasnt my idea was for you all so that also

[steady glacier]

Well shit sure I'll put it on nexus and shout you out, what's your account?

also sorry about the haters

[inner tendon]

put me in the shoutout too 😎 😂

no need, but I would thank it. Your choice

[steady glacier]

Yeah I will since you provided the MP3

[sharp bone]

same on Nexus Skater6453. And ehh its cool. Not really haters but just people wanting custom tweaks for themselves for things after I made a good version already. And hate to make optional files just for certain people and cant please everyone and stuff like that. You know

[steady glacier]

fair

[steady glacier]

what's your nexus

[inner tendon]

name or link?

[steady glacier]

link

[inner tendon]

https://www.nexusmods.com/users/38307705

[steady glacier]

k cool

[sharp bone]

https://www.nexusmods.com/users/69698748

[inner tendon]

I think i got the e3 2018 menu now 😂

fits perfectly

[sharp bone]

Nice yeah Spicy's hud and menu are awesome

Another cool thing for R18 would be the Beta text at the top of the screen. I have actually been wanting to make that. But idk where to start with UI stuff.

[steady glacier]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/5299

made new header image

lmao

[inner tendon]

❤️‍🔥

[sharp bone]

absolute fire very nice

These are the indoor issues Im seeing

[steady glacier]

hmmm

[sharp bone]

But outside, my goodness!!❤️

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-mcvicker-tyler-vnn-valve-news-network-happy-gif-23427663

[steady glacier]

jesus christo the top one looks just like the demo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021554955120803870/1021688936910835812/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021554955120803870/1021720212166430781/Screenshot_52.png

crazy

[sharp bone]

Yup its scary close

[steady glacier]

sun just needs a little bit more white/yellow

to make it look really sunbleached

[dreamy arrow]

[sharp bone]

yup just very little tweaks

[steady glacier]

the e3 is real

[sharp bone]

Yo Spicy. Say E3 and he contractually has to show up lol

[steady glacier]

true

[dreamy arrow]

[sharp bone]

hehe

[sharp bone]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13HgJvmajXPpwlWsm1k1PiRyx1MHNsSCj/view?usp=sharing @steady glacier @inner tendon I thought you all might enjoy this as well. I made this a while ago. It replaces all versions of the modern song of Chippin In with the 2018 version from the demo.

[inner tendon]

there's already a mod for it, isn't it?

holy

you are the author

sheesh

[sharp bone]

Idk if there is another one. But I made this a while ago

Ahh ok yeah lol

[inner tendon]

already downloaded it and rockin' it

😄

[sharp bone]

oh awesome ok

[inner tendon]

but what was your source?

[steady glacier]

as much as I like this version, it's Kerry Eurodyne's version, so for me in the lore context it doesn't really make sense

cause like

Johnny is the main singer of Samurai

[sharp bone]

I got the song straight from the digital album. Bought it a while back.

[inner tendon]

oh, alright. How did you manage to balance the audio? Because I tried to replace songs ingame but failed, some songs were too loud or too quiet

[sharp bone]

Agreed I like both. But figured for E3 purists like myself would be neat. And makes it so it plays on the radio at the beggining of the game

I messed with it on audicity but since it was clean from the album it didnt need much. Just some equalizing

[steady glacier]

I'm only a purist when it comes to shit that stays within lore parameters, but yeah that's fair, I won't deny that I like Kerry's version better, but for different reasons

[sharp bone]

yup

[inner tendon]

guys

I think i know why the r18 is blue-ish

because null started to work from the r19 file, which is blue. There might be leftovers

i think that's the case

[steady glacier]

if he doesn't fix rn I'm going cyber psycho

https://tenor.com/view/cat-what-wtf-huh-gif-26723292

[lofty thistle]

you nerds not slept yet?

[steady glacier]

I can't sleep, too busy giving feedback on R18

[sharp bone]

lol ill sleep soon

[inner tendon]

it's 2pm here

[steady glacier]

I pulled an all nighter because I'm an owl

and I got today off

[frigid cairn]

Best Cyberpunk 2077 music ever after V'S theme of course)

[steady glacier]

yeah, it's called Night City theme though

It's very perplexing as to why it was cut

I really don't get it

[sharp bone]

its because too many cooks in the kitchen with games nowadays it seems

If I was in charge of anything with a game. I would make it a point that the game wont be shown anything of till everyones mind is made up on the creative direction. Then show it as a demo with everything in there staying till the final product. Only extra stuff would change

[lofty thistle]

need to make adaptation slower

And change skydome

should make it have less blue tint and darker shadows

[lofty thistle]

I have that, I can pull it out later when I’m home to take a video/take screenshots

[inner tendon]

slower???

[lofty thistle]

yea

[inner tendon]

it's already slow imo

[lofty thistle]

currently it’s too fast and is able to give the game too neutral of a picture

in 2018, it’s really slow lmao

I used R19’s adaptation

not 2018

because 2018 adaptation doesn’t have the right variables

so I’ll need to spend a few hours tweaking adaptation

[sharp bone]

Thats awesome!

[lofty thistle]

y’all gonna have to wait though

[sharp bone]

all good

I took a look at the 02 env and I cant even begin to make heads or tails of how you all know what half of it means. Did u see the shots I took of the interior light bleeding and too much light in the middle of the apartment complex?

[lofty thistle]

I did, and I dont. LEXAR is the master of that

He’s been doing env edits for years before I was even into modding

BUT he can be very busy

[sharp bone]

Ahh ok

[pale bison]

Can some-one share demoR18? Can't download from github, browser lock

And want to say author, that R19 has the same problem with mod, interior look needs fixes

[steady glacier]

Yes

and the sun needs to be even brigther whitish/yellow

[lofty thistle]

Well

back home :)

[sharp bone]

nice

[lofty thistle]

I need someone to help me out here: the roads in the 2018 demo were a grey color, meanwhile in the game they're black

can anyone with material experience just tweak the texture a little bit for me?

[sharp bone]

I havent messed with textures in Cyberpunk but Ill see if I can.

[lofty thistle]

little detail but significant

[sharp bone]

Agree

[lofty thistle]

first thing on the chopping block is the chromatic aberration

[steady glacier]

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/5179

I think those are demo

maybe

[sharp bone]

I was wondering did u disable motion blur?

[lofty thistle]

no

I use motion blur on high

[lofty thistle]

huh

looks good, but not perfect, think it'll do for now though'

[sharp bone]

ahh ok weird on mine it looks like no blur which I use on high also

[lofty thistle]

I'll turn it up

[steady glacier]

Yeah I think they are kinda broken, if you tell me what I need to retexture shit, I can take a look

[lofty thistle]

I have the value lower than vanilla

[sharp bone]

ahh ok

[steady glacier]

I used to texture guns and shit for NV so it's no biggie

[lofty thistle]

@steady glacier

[steady glacier]

now that's looking fucking good

wayy more accurate than the vid yesterday

I still think the sun needs just a little bit more blinding white, but overall much better

it's almost there

[lofty thistle]

as i said, that's all exposure control now

[steady glacier]

Ah ok, sorry my brain is mush

you got the shadows down right though

they are almost exactly like demo

same with the coloration

got rid of that blue filter

[lofty thistle]

https://github.com/nullfrctl/R18/commit/871fbe2498af26130aea3dfc5c3b86993ac29964

[steady glacier]

null best dev

[true iron]

I'll keep an eye on Dev stuff because 2018 seems the closest to what I'm after. Do have a question though, why is all the env modding just trying to recreate E3 looks? Just wondering

[sharp bone]

I had some road textures already and I think they might actually be WT3d's actually. I already packed them if you like them

[steady glacier]

Mostly because the general opinion is that the 2018 demo looked way better and fit the game more appropriately than vanilla lighting

and since it's feasible to replicate, people strive to do it

[true iron]

Yeah but vanilla lighting is kinda terrible

Imo

[lofty thistle]

looks great in rain

[random owl]

Omfg that is just beautiful

[true iron]

And the trademark green LUT was....an interesting Dev decision, not that isn't easily fixable

[steady glacier]

I've found that it doesn't fit the assets that well, it almost seems like the lighting was a very quick afterthought, especially since the game has tons of shadowmap issues and that ugly green filter

[sharp bone]

Nice

[steady glacier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021554955120803870/1021685595568865300/unknown.png
"like these curb things for instance, the light almost shines through their faded translucent glass, and makes them look truly real, like they are a part of the scene. Base game just doesn't have shit like this."

it's almost like the 2018 lighting is what they designed the assets around

so that is why people try and recreate it

[sharp bone]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17HWGmPivBEGSXVMygcX4hAAkwWL6YYE3/view?usp=sharing @lofty thistle See what u think

[true iron]

It cover rougher roads out in badlands and such?

[steady glacier]

I'll give em a spin too

[sharp bone]

It should. I dont think i have a save out that far. I could just go out of bounds and check here in a bit

[true iron]

Not found really many material replacers other than that 4k surfaces mod on Nexus that I can't seem to find solid info about

[sharp bone]

Forgot I do have a save on 1.6

[true iron]

So I'll probably give it a try

[sharp bone]

Warning those textures are extremely!!! Vram heavy

I was using 11.5 gigs of my Vram with those textures

[true iron]

I made Skyrim use like 20gb. I think I'll manage

[sharp bone]

But they do look really good

Oh nice well yeah you will be good lol

I have a 3080ti so was too close for me. Assume you got a 3090?

[true iron]

Have to max my 3090 or I'll be sad about 4000 series

[sharp bone]

lol true. Yeah Im going 4090 this time around

[true iron]

I'm likely to lose all my free time to Rtx remix so

[sharp bone]

Yeah that looks so neat

[true iron]

I need to get my hands on it to see how viable it is for Skyrim tbh

[sharp bone]

Im guessing all of that stuff is them trying to kiss up to Gamers again after proof of stake

But if thats the case prices a bit lower would have helped also lol

[true iron]

Nah. RTX remix is purely a commercial move.

[sharp bone]

true

[true iron]

Force AAA studios into RT adoption

[sharp bone]

Yeah and even for older games also so they are kind of forcing them for no excuses

[true iron]

How can you release a fancy new shiny game that looks worse than 20 modded games from 2008

[sharp bone]

Yup

[true iron]

Kinda kills the PC remaster market too

Which is good considering most of them are dog

I'm probably going a bit too far off-topic for this thread, sorry

[sharp bone]

Yeah alot of modded remaster are better anyway

its cool

[steady glacier]

nah it's fine we sorta talk about whatever in here anyway

[sharp bone]

yup

[true iron]

Any of you lot have any experience of this? https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/2723
Can't really find much about material replacement mods that have been released on this server (unless I'm just blind)

[steady glacier]

Hmm, never heard of it, kinda weird it's one of the only ones

I guess probably because the game already looks pretty good

texture wise

[true iron]

Welllllllll

It could be better

[steady glacier]

agreed, but for a vanilla game, it's some of the best texture work I've seen

there are a few areas that need improvement though

[true iron]

Possibly a streaming issue with replacements?

[steady glacier]

like graffiti

[steady glacier]

hmm

maybe

[true iron]

The only other big thing I've seen is that Blade runner mod that replaces all the ads n such

[steady glacier]

yeah

[true iron]

Can only use that if I yeet all the LAPD stuff myself first

Regardless I need to make a mod of some kind. This name colour bothers me

[steady glacier]

I made a mod and didn't get my role

[true iron]

I have an idea I just need to learn how to do it lmao

Jackie's free bike needs nerfing into the ground

[sharp bone]

You should get your role

[chrome ore]

I am monitoring this bread with great interest 👀

[steady glacier]

You want some bread?

[chrome ore]

[steady glacier]

https://github.com/nullfrctl/R18

bread

[sharp bone]

The interior Lighting now is doing alot better. Just small things

[chrome ore]

its ready? 😄

[steady glacier]

no

but it works

mostly

[chrome ore]

ill install it then. first need to finish troubleshooting my mods >:3

[steady glacier]

it at least looks like the demo rn aside from exposure and a few other minor details

[steady glacier]

If you have any suggestions while playing, make sure to say them

[sharp bone]

Shots I took the other day

[steady glacier]

yeah now it's less blue and has better shadows

also roads

thanks to you

[chrome ore]

What do yoou recommend pairing this with?

[steady glacier]

nothing

it's standalone

just use R18 and the roads if you want

[chrome ore]

[steady glacier]

the point of the mod is just to restore the E3 demo visuals, so it doesn't have a reshade or anything

also not compatible with any weather mods

[chrome ore]

Why is that?

[steady glacier]

Because it has it's own weather settings

tuned to make it look like the E3 demo

[chrome ore]

Oh nice!

[steady glacier]

this mod is supposed to be like a total 100% purist restoration of the E3 visuals

so if you don't like how the demo vid looked, you prob won't like the mod lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvnsEWsb4-I

comparison I made

it's with the old version of this mod though

from yesterday

[true iron]

I mean if you want to be purist about it

Exposure isn't high enough in that vid

[steady glacier]

yes exactly

he already knows

shadows in that vid were also not black enough

or defined enough

and the screen had blue tint

[true iron]

So only comment on screens that pop up? Gotta

[steady glacier]

Not trying to be rude, I was just attempting to explain that most of the stuff has already been fixed or is known as an issue, mod just started development

[sharp bone]

Exposure does yeah still need some tweaks

[true iron]

I didn't see it as rude. It's a WIP mod so obviously stuff changes

[steady glacier]

Oh ok sorry, I misunderstood your tone lmao

[sharp bone]

But Blur is perfect. Fog seems ironed out. Maybe the haze is a bit much indoors and along with the exposure its coming off a bit too strong

[true iron]

Tbh I think exposure is likely going to be the hardest part to get right. I think it was probably toned down from E3 due to stuff like this (1st person driving)

[steady glacier]

exposure needs to be higher but also lower

[sharp bone]

Yeah I agree

[steady glacier]

it's a weird balance

outside it def needs to be higher

[true iron]

Hmm. I know it's not what youre doing atm

But could likely get a balance by adding Reshade for more adaption

[sharp bone]

I have reshade on this build but havent tried anything yet

[true iron]

It's common in the modding communities I'm from (Bethesda) to pair up lighting & weather changes with post processing (enb in that case, obvs Reshade here)

Generally just gives you more tools for the job

[sharp bone]

True

[steady glacier]

Yeah but this isn't really about that

I mean worst case scenario yeah reshade will be used

but generally R18 is supposed to be an AIO restoration using in game tools

because it's a restoration of the E3 build

which used in game tools

albeit baked lighting

but still

[true iron]

Right but as far as I understand it the full game files for 2018 env was nowhere near finished and had quite substantial issues. Not telling you what to do, just suggesting a possible solution

[steady glacier]

Yeah I get what you mean

they were unfinished

but that's why they aren't just copy pasting the E3 files

[true iron]

Oh 100%. Tbh I probably need to learn more about how the env stuff functions in game before saying Reshade adaption

[lofty thistle]

reshade is off the table

end of story

don't get me wrong, I love reshade, i make shaders for it

[sharp bone]

Yeah I believe as well no reshade for the final version of the mod. Can be a great optional for some to use to enhance to their liking of course. But should try and get just the env as close as possible

[steady glacier]

Yep

[lofty thistle]

exposure is getting close

[steady glacier]

ooo

[sharp bone]

Oooooo

[steady glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/yummers-the-boys-homelander-gif-26204488

damn R18 runs great for me

I'm running with psycho RTX at 1080p with quality DLSS

[lofty thistle]

RTX looks great

[sharp bone]

Yeah its running really good even on my seta drive which is where I keep the builds I test mods with. On my main games on ssd should run great

[sharp bone]

ouch sorry lol

[lofty thistle]

my rt ini is crazy