Subject::Suggestion to restore the previous Raid Reward System.

[fervent igloo]

Subject: Suggestion to Restore the Previous Raid Reward System

Dear Server Admins/Moderators,

I hope you are doing well. I would like to share my thoughts regarding the recent changes to the raid reward system and raids in the bot .

Previously, all participants in raids received equal rewards. This system encouraged more participation, ensured fairness, and maintained a cooperative environment among players. However, with the new "Top to Bottom" system, where rewards decrease as ranking lowers, it has introduced certain challenges:

Discouragement for Casual Players: The new system heavily favors top performers, making it difficult for casual players to earn meaningful rewards. This may lead to a decline in participation, as those who cannot compete at higher levels may feel left out.

Reduced Team Spirit: The previous system promoted a sense of teamwork and collective effort, while the new system encourages competition. This shift may create frustration among players who work hard but do not make it to the top ranks.

Lower Overall Engagement: Many players may become disheartened if they consistently earn fewer rewards, leading to less frequent participation in raids.

Given these concerns, I kindly suggest reconsidering the reward system and restoring the previous model where all participants receive equal rewards. Alternatively, a balanced approach could be introduced, ensuring that top performers still receive some recognition without heavily disadvantaging others.

I appreciate the time and effort put into managing the server, and I hope this feedback can contribute to making the raid experience enjoyable for all players. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Raid* typos

[near lava]

Maybe write it yourself next time

[spice oriole]

yea people with 6 shadows dominate top ranks

[fervent igloo]

Subject::Sugeestion to restore the previous Raid Reward System.

[covert birch]

Agreed @fervent igloo

[proven spindle]

Suggestion spelling is wrong now

[covert birch]

which?

[fervent igloo]

Subject::Suggestion to restore the previous Raid Reward System.

[worn barn]

real 💯

[fervent igloo]

😭

[small ravine]

Agreed with xzi and om, but i will also like to raise another point.
So potions are like tax to raiders agree or not its a fact and on average to revive our team we have to spend 4k or 5k credits each time, so you only get 5k each raid and after the new limit 15k a global is nothing being honest.
I think along with bringing back previous raid rewards, potions prices should also be decreased.

[dark frost]

you think this gonna work

[small ravine]

Nah tho fr this sheet not gonna work lmao

[lyric orchid]

why does it look like chat gpt

I hope u didn't used chat gpt bro...

[near lava]

It is

[lyric orchid]

😭🙏

nah that's wild

[mental crypt]

Atleast don't make this suggestion thread a war field 🙏🏻

[near lava]

Ai generated stuff deserves no recognition

[mental crypt]

Bro don't

[true star]

I agree with you here. Restoring the old system or finding a balanced approach would be much better for the raiding community. I also told this in the last suggestion, which Toetoelz created.
Moreover, it's just my opinion.
Rest, can't deny the fact that the hq team is doing a wonderful job to maintain the stability of the bot. 🫶

[humble acorn]

[finite beacon]

Agreeee

[near lava]

neither are ai generated what's your point

[lyric orchid]

?

I mean if u want better things on raid, it isn't better to write all by yourself ?

[mental crypt]

Who said it's ai generated

[lyric orchid]

u use chat gpt I hope ?

[mental crypt]

Nahhh

[lyric orchid]

ic

Ye chat gpt mainly do their text like that

[mental crypt]

Ohhh

That's why much people alway tell me to use chat gpt 💀

Man insaneeee lol

Ops nvm mb it's the suggestion thread ig I'm going the wrong way

😅

[lyric orchid]

ye lmao, chat gpt is a thing a lot of ppl use for programming or do some work at class

[mental crypt]

Damn I'll try it out

[mental crypt]

ty for the suggestion tho

[lyric orchid]

👍 yw

[wanton sierra]

Wether it is formatted, organized, enhanced, and/or edited by any AI shouldn't be what's discussed. AI is a tool why not use it? Let's bring it back to the topic at hand: Raids.

With the recent change we are able to do less raids per global. So, in addition to limiting rewards by changing how rewards work, we have lost the ability to do 4-5 raids per global. This is impacting people's motivation to raid.

I also agree that in encourages more competitive than cooperative approach to a team/group based activity, it also further diminishes the experiences of casual/new raiders, and has further disheartened many of the old raiders; leading to less motivation to participate in raids.

So, I would love to see the return of the old reward system especially considering that this new change further nerfs how many can rewards can be earned.

If not then, would it be possible to please consider adding one more raid per globals and keeping the 10 minute cd?

Typo. Oops. Fixed.

[mental crypt]

Yess

[near lava]

AI is a tool for solving complex problems and doing what can't be done by a human or what cannot be bothered by humans to do.
I, as both an artist and a writer want AI to do my chores for me not take my job. AI art literature &/or any skill assisted by AI can never be done on the same scale and level as done by a human. AI words do not portray neither any emotion nor life in them, they can never be real.
Aside from that if the user really needed that change and/or cared about it, he would've taken his own time and written it instead of using a lifeless tool.

[wanton sierra]

You can care about something enough to use an AI tool to increase clarity and efficacy. Especially if you are writing in a language that isn't your native language. It works by using what you input so the core idea has come from the poster. Please respect the request to keep this thread on topic and talk about raids.

[spare oar]

Dawg

[orchid umbra]

I agree.

[spare oar]

what u mean it doesn't matter it's made by AI

there's nothing there to read

[wanton sierra]

There is it makes clear points that the raiding community has been impacted by change recently. Not just in the structure of rewards which the affects the team play core of raiding but also in how it has impacted quality of life for raiders.

[spare oar]

chat gpt ahh thread

Yeah anyways

[wanton sierra]

Off topic please talk about raids.

[spare oar]

"Suggestion to restore the previous ruined economy and make it even worse"

[wanton sierra]

Yeah as if it didn't include a lot of time, effort, and cooperation to get into and continue raiding.

As if it isn't an option for other players.

I am also not like we're asking for no balance.

In fact we have stated please return reward structure since we have now been limited in the # of raids we can do.

[spare oar]

We don't talk about if it's hard on players or what, it's a fact that previous raid system was extensively ruining the economy

people might need a better way to earn money but this isn't it

[wanton sierra]

If not that my suggestion was then to at least let us do 4.

So we would still have gone through a limitation/nerfing.

But there is a balance and at the moment it feels like too much.

[spare oar]

maybe you're not that old so you wouldn't know

so don't put pressure on ur little brain

[lyric orchid]

everyone get bored of raids, just make it better before talking about rewards ig

idk if y'all know pokerealm/pokeworld but there is a raid system which is very fun and would be very nice with the recent duel update

In pokerealm, there is an effect move on raid, like toxic work, idk if every move works because my memory sucks but ye it would be very nice to use this since there is duelers on raid thing as I see

Idk what y'all think about this, but for me it would be nice and maybe get the motivation to play raid again

[wanton sierra]

Uncalled for to name call an inappropriate in the setting please consider deleting

[spare oar]

you can apply for mod

later

[wanton sierra]

Asking for respect and civility is common place and shouldn't be considered a "mod" job.

[lyric orchid]

C'mon bro get some respect, she talks well with you so do some efforts

[spare oar]

but i didn't say anything to her? Wdym

[wanton sierra]

Maybe should be the bare minimum rather than common place but you catch my drift.

[spare oar]

were here talking about the suggestion

[lyric orchid]

idk I feel ur aggressing everyone bro

Maybe I'm wrong idk

[wanton sierra]

I have to leave for now. But asking a thread to remain on topic and not to be mean to those who disagree with your point of view should be the bare minimum.

A debate is not an all out fight but a way to see views of each other and maybe come to a common ground.

[spare oar]

this wannabe mod doesnt see this, only what is against there ideals

[wanton sierra]

Please be respectful and come back to the topic instead of attacking people, attack the arguments.

I'd like to see raids thriving again, and balance is important, but at present it feels like it has changed too much in the other direction.

[spare oar]

r auto raid bots not earning enough??

[wanton sierra]

That isn't even a thing.

[lyric orchid]

no one even heard of this bro

ur literally making new stuff just because u can't understand u lost the argue

[wanton sierra]

If it is then do something about them, not the whole raiding community who participates fairly.

[spare oar]

just because you didn't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, I've digged in raid clans myself buddy

[wanton sierra]

This still applies if it's real.

[mental crypt]

He knows all the stuff that's why he is giving suggestion to other

[humble acorn]

he speaks from experience he uses them on daily basis

[wanton sierra]

That's like saying limit all catching and user who catch because people auto catch.

[lyric orchid]

😭🙏

ariz alt

[wanton sierra]

Does that make sense? No

I'm all for fair game play and tools that enforce that.

[spare oar]

wonder why so many people from ur clan got banned, wouldn't have been for no reason no

[near lava]

AI rips away feelings and the intentions of the words, it doesn't increase clarity nor efficacy. Neither broken english nor bad english are an issue in this server nor anywhere else even if OP's english is not as good as a native speaker he had no reason to use ChatGPT to write the entire suggestion, he could've used another AI program like Grammarly which is solely based on grammatical mistakes compared to an AI which does everything on it's own.
I've used enough AI myself to know that OP did not add any core idea to the base text or even used it to enhance his own, it is obviously completely AI generated.
As in this below screenshot where the prompt was just a single "Can you write an email to the administrator of a discord pokemon about about buffing raid rewards back to when they were equal and how the nerfs negatively affect the community and how changing it can positively affect the community" with no core nor any feelings the AI wrote a very similar text with barely any efforts.

Posting this here since AI words can never be real words. Anything AI enhanced should never be taken seriously & should be nulled on sight.

I think you can't read either

[wanton sierra]

Stop attacking each other.

[wanton sierra]

I have asked repeatedly to keep on topic. This is not the topic at hand.

[crimson crag]

Erm this is just a suggestion if u don't like it then just shut up and move on

[fervent igloo]

whats going on?

so whats the issues?

[near lava]

AI should never be the starting point of any topic, the thread should've been deleted right when AI was used to write it.

[wanton sierra]

Also please stop attacking each other. It's okay to disagree and go after arguments but please stop going off topic and being disrespectful on both ends of this argument.

[near lava]

Notice how I never said anything about raids and you just assumed it

[fervent igloo]

you all got issues hop vc lets sort

[lyric orchid]

tbh I'm sure this guy has some good arguments without even using this, I just don't know him

[wanton sierra]

Notice how I asked you to remain on topic and talk about raids not how things were formatted. At this point I have used my own words to argue my point and I agree it's a valid point that we should change something in riads

[near lava]

Hindi is not the universal language, english is.

[lyric orchid]

i hope, idk half of the new raid community so

[wanton sierra]

Be respectful

[near lava]

English is taught in literally every third world country. English isn't mine nor your native language but notice how we are both communicating in english?

[crimson crag]

Erm did ai made it too bad or something?

[mental crypt]

Egg pgg

[fervent igloo]

@spare oar you got issues with the suggestion??

may i know the reason

[humble acorn]

leave it , let's take english classes

[zinc seal]

Why is this thread becoming a battlefield 😲

[near lava]

I couldn't care less about raids, but if you really want change use your words to request it not a tool's.

[spare oar]

May you take the trouble to scroll up and just read what i said, i ain't repeating all at for a vip like u

[wanton sierra]

Make a thread suggesting that ai suggestions shouldn't be allowed.

[spare oar]

scary

[near lava]

They aren't.

That's the point

[fervent igloo]

Nvm I wouldn't care less

was being nice

[crimson crag]

Bruh it's just a thread take it like it, it's a suggestion of someone if he uses ai there isn't a issue if there's something bothering u then just go from this thread...

[wanton sierra]

Please show me the rule you are referencing.

[near lava]

My friend has had his unban appeal rejected for using AI if that helps

[wanton sierra]

Yeah they want to because they have am extreme bias against ai usage.

[spare oar]

maybe learn to write before making suggestions lol

[zinc seal]

True

[fervent igloo]

[ashen apex]

yes sir but let me say one thing to these peeps that arguing like this is why the mods dont care to make changes anyways

[near lava]

Mods don't make changes Devs do

[ashen apex]

thanks mister english major for the correction 🤦‍♂️ what u on to rn?

[vagrant pivot]

This thread is ruined fr

Should make another

And let me be the one who does it

[spare oar]

Think Mods and devs is pretty big difference to be considered a grammar issue

[near lava]

Please write it yourself next time

[vagrant pivot]

Yes mam/sir

[zinc seal]

No don't do it for now

[vagrant pivot]

🫡

[ashen apex]

u guys get the point tho

[zinc seal]

Let the mods react to this thread only

[ashen apex]

changes arent being made?

[vagrant pivot]

Yep

[fervent igloo]

@ashen apex @vagrant pivot back to server

[spare oar]

mods the second they react to this thread: ?lock

yep time to use some raid bots

enjoy

[crimson crag]

...

[wanton sierra]

Actually a new thread away from all the off topic chatter may be in order at this point. I'll save what I was typing and donjust that.

[lyric orchid]

yk u can make 5k it won't matter lmao, there will always be some fight in those types of threads

[proven spindle]

[fervent igloo]

🥱 past ev trainers talk to much aint it?

[lyric orchid]

This thing of EV trainer clan still exist ?

[fervent igloo]

idk

was never one

[lyric orchid]

Ic

[tranquil roost]

Raid ain't getting buffed again so chill yall