Please buff GMax

[pearl oasis]

It is so insane to be that literally every GMax is useless for the most part now. I speak mostly as a Raider and literally every GMax team is dead in the water. 😦

[green egret]

for duelers it's a waste of money because they don't have all moves the normal mon have

So it would be nice to have all moves (like cinderace and gmax cinderace can learn gunk shot etc)

[pearl oasis]

They are even useless for Duelers? So saaaad!

[quiet pewter]

idk how exactly this would work as it is its alrdy technically buffed from the fact it’s permanent the bot uses the exact stats from the games we cant just buff them randomly

[pearl oasis]

I'd have to ask @supple mist How the GMaxes got outranked by everything

[quiet pewter]

in the games all dmax and gigantamax last only 3 turns

in a game with no other gimmicks

[quiet pewter]

i mean i will say personally i dont like that it costs 25k to gmax and then another 25k to ungmax just for a specific move but

from a technical standpoint tho it doesnt need to be buffed i mean u could ask for shadow gmaxes but

[bitter vale]

#1254602106124374148 add what is needed and I can add these to gmax mons

[green egret]

List of gmax is still a tag ?

So i can see

[supple mist]

yk we have the suggestion for it already (to make gmax works like mega) but yeh idk if it ever gonna get implemented

[bitter vale]

Should tbh makes sense

[pearl oasis]

But wouldn't they still have basically no uses?

[supple mist]

yeah, gmax mons become somewhat useless after the introduce of zmove in raids

[pearl oasis]

Mmm the power difference is just that high

[supple mist]

z move are just more powerful than gmax mons with extra added base stats

[pearl oasis]

Since Zmoves can be spammed

So the problem isn't Gmax being unlike the games

It's that Zmoves are spammable XD

[pearl oasis]

What if the GMoves were made more equal to Zmoves?

[pearl oasis]

How strong are Zmoves in duelling?

[supple mist]

i dont play the original game, but what i know is the dev referenced gmax move based on the game. Idk if they always has 150 base power or not

[green egret]

Z-Moves aren't items who are mostly used, except for some like manaphy

So they are a little useless

[supple mist]

z move kinda of useless in dueling, since they follows how it works in the game. 1 usage only, and cant hold battle item, like sash coz u still need z crystal for it

[pearl oasis]

So how damaging is restricting Z-Move usage in raids?

What if Z-moces were limited to like... 5 per raid? That would bring about hybrid teams using GMax and a Zmove user no?

@supple mist

[supple mist]

Means all the new meta become useless once again xD

[supple mist]

That's not a good idea, the dmg difference between z moves with non z moves are just too great

[pearl oasis]

So how would GMax ever become relevant?

[bitter vale]

In duels mainly as z moves are one time use

[supple mist]

Nothing i could think of 😦

[brittle horizon]

Annoying 😡 iron defense endure stuff already with corviknight no thanks 🙏

Useless that was patched by now

[green egret]

Endure corvi 🤔

[cursive sage]

Buff corvi, +50spdef

+20 hp too

[cursive sage]

Maybe +30 to the def stat

Ykw give it the ability filter

And access to parting shot

Or maybe even intimidate

[latent pollen]

ive asked before