#Rework raids

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sage whale
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Rework raids, 75% of raids arent even possible unless you have 10+ people with insanely hard to obtain mon. I understand the need for hard raids but there is hundreds of raid server to help the same 30ish players find easier raids. Raids that give a mon that is actual useful the players that would need them cant do the raid.

light lodge
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I agree, if you're a newer player it's hard to find that many people to join up with and even have a chance at the pokemon. It's feasible to get a group of 3-5 together to win a raid, but the vast majority of raids are unwinnable with that number

amber sun
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I Also agree some raids are close to impossible just because certain Pokémon have a move

inland geyser
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Join a raid clan simple

vagrant sundial
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it’s meant to be challenging

sage whale
sage whale
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And even then

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Only the top 5 people really benefit from it

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Not sure how you can say theres nothing wrong with the raid system

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Dont know how you justify 20 people doing a raid and everyone doing within 1k damage of each other and only the top 5 people benefitting from it 🤷‍♂️

inland geyser
sage whale
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Strongly disagree

sage whale
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Shouldnt have to be a 20 person group to do a raid for a useful mon. But even then the top 3 people are the only ones the get the mon even if everyone in the raid does 10-11k damage

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Idk how you can say thats fair lmao

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Not sure how else I can break it down for you

amber sun
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I don’t think it’s fair when you’re new and have no chance at getting anything from a raid unless you put way too much time in. If you are casually playing you might as well never do raids

vagrant sundial
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okay

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give examples

inland geyser
vagrant sundial
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took me that long

vagrant sundial
amber sun
amber sun
inland geyser
amber sun
sage whale
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Im not saying rework raid teams i think theyre fine gives something to grind for. Im talking about actual raids

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Not sure how yall cant see a problem when 75% of raids arent done bc of difficulty

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Not sure how else I can dumb it down for you

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Raids are structured for 20 person groups

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Even 20 person groups dont do a majority of raids

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Only 4 star raid that ever gets done is kartana

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But yall changing the subject from raids to raid teams is cool ig

inland geyser
inland geyser
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@weak zephyr Care to weigh in

sage whale
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Kartana

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So

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Idk how you arguing this rn lmao

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Wild

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20 people to do gokd raids and only top 5 benefit

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Thats a fact not sure how you are arguing against it lmao

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But im over trying to explain it to you

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You win ig lmao not arguing with someone who can’t understand a simple concept anymore

weak zephyr
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raids are meant to be challenging

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hard raids are meant to have perfect teams with full ev

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if all raids are easily doable, then there’s no challenge

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u don’t even need to have set teams then

weak zephyr
weak zephyr
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u aren’t supposed to be able to do all raids as a new and causal player, that defeats the purpose of even making it a challenge

idle lintel
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I love how sith gave a response with logics, beautiful.

umbral spade
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I think the idea is just to limit how many people there needs to be to defeat a raid boss, not about the perfect team...

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A 4 person raid with the perfect team is a lot better than a 20 person raid, perfect team, against a singular boss

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If it's difficulty-wise, I can see how the... I think the highest is 4 star? The 4 star raids can need that many people, but with the lower difficulty ones, I don't think you should need that many people

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One star raids being doable for newer members/casual players would be nice, and anything after you need to really grind for. It gives them a taste of what it's like so they feel encouraged to aim for higher rewards

inland geyser
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Most of them only need 3 ppl with the correct team to win

umbral spade
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Oh? owo Interesting interesting!

vagrant sundial
vagrant sundial
uncut spindleBOT
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Converting to "int" failed for parameter "number".

untold kettle
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Lol, people have been raiding for half a year and some more than a year, and have done 90% of all raids and these newcomers are spreading logic based on personal anecdote from less than a few months of raiding. Talking about logic when using subjective point to validate an objective change Bruh_1

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Casual players = casual raid

idle lintel
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Nice vocabulary

umbral spade
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You know you could be... nicer, right? As in... everyone, right?

vagrant sundial
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it’s not about kindness

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nobody meets mr beast everyday and he would give them millions of dollars

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it’s the way of living

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and wording

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words can hurt, encourage, support, damage

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it’s how you see them

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deeply

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there is no point pointing out niceness

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we are being nice already

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so mind if you shut up?

umbral spade
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Your examples don't correlate at all to what I was saying and it's clear you don't understand the rules of the server. You can make points without making backhanded comments or being outright rude. You should take your own advice, no one was asking for your opinion

vagrant sundial
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wdym? What you want

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life isn’t just okay I love this person, this community is perfectly nice, everyone says nice words, thank you for doing this, no, if there are nicer human beings there are different ones who live on earth

vagrant sundial
umbral spade
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We're not here to talk about the intricacies of life and what we can learn from the world, dude. I made a comment bc it seems like nobody is following the rule of, you know, being nice, and again, I did not ask

faint heron
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Aside from this, I do agree with what Sym had to say about raids

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One star raids are still very difficult, and makes it difficult for new players to get their foot in the door, especially if they want to do adv tasks

vagrant sundial
vagrant sundial
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it’s a very fundamental thing

faint heron
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...? I feel like you're being silly with me

vagrant sundial
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prove it

faint heron
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This feels like you're sidetracking the point of this thread to start unnecessary drama

rustic nova
faint heron
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But I think making lower star raids slightly more doable for people would improve newer members wanting to even participate in them in the first place. It's very overwhelming

umbral spade
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Smh

rustic nova
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Lol

umbral spade
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Any yeah new members can't just get rare Pokémon easily as the raid meta requires

vagrant sundial
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instead of wasting time in a useless conversation, go think of how people went through their “newbie” times

umbral spade
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Aint you wastin time too buddy?

rustic nova
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^

vagrant sundial
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you get me entertained

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we aren’t the same

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buddy

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🥱

rustic nova
vagrant sundial
rustic nova
vagrant sundial
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I know lololll who isnt

amber sun
signal stump
glad lance
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Build cheap teams (primarina, normal mega heracross, shadow chari) , raid with your teams, save money to improve your teams

I also did this because I've never caught a shadow legends raid

glad lance
umbral spade
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Oh tyvm!

weak zephyr
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cos the raid is hard due to the dex stats

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so a one star raid, for example, rapidash, it’s hard even with all the good players with fully ev team

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and they can’t just simply change the dex stats

faint heron
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The issue is players who don't spend hours grinding for legendaries and credits for meta pokemon don't have a chance to participate in raids when those are also a big part of adventures tasks and such- why should those players be excluded because raids are made impossible unless you have a team of mostly megas/shadows/legendaries?

inland geyser
glad lance
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There's also the rock team who’s cheap

amber sun
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A fire team of groudons is way better than a fire team of charizards no?

glad lance
amber sun
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Well

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Groudons do be expensive

vagrant sundial
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simple as it is