art-help

[livid egret]

Does anyone know of a good tutorial for coloring ? I'm fine with skeching, but am in awe of people who are good at digitally coloring

[royal fern]

looks good, if you're leaving it in just lineart i'd add some line weight.

with manga and lineart you'd probably go with cell-shading

[livid egret]

I want to add shading/coloring

It's not a manga, just cause wife and I are pretty tall, wanted to draw something for her to show how silly it is to compare herself to the 50kg asian ladies.I wanted to make it into small animation that alters between 3 sketches, once I dye it. When i add flat colors it just looks extremely childish and bad.

Not to mention that sometimes colors leak out and no idea how to fix it

[royal fern]

you keep adding onto the flat colors, either with gradient tools or soft airbrushes and such, i'll link you some stuff

[livid egret]

Great, link me in DM idk if I have locked the dm for non-friends, so sent you friend request, so we don't overflood this channel.

Thanks in advance!

[whole cedar]

thanksss :> I really liked the concept so tried implementing it, though i think its a little hard to see.

[whole cedar]

uauuu! thats pretty nicee, great use of a monochromatic scheme

[boreal anvil]

haha thanks

it was sorta a doodle

[normal robin]

XD

[haughty tiger]

I'm trying a new colorin technique.how does it lookkk

[astral kernel]

really pretty omg

[haughty tiger]

omg thank you ❤️ you made me so happy

[brisk crater]

@haughty tiger I love how that looks! Did you do that digitally or traditionally?

[molten frigate]

Looks so goooddd wowww

[haughty tiger]

@brisk crater I did it traditionally.I used watercolor and black pen for outlines.And also for the background I used ''ebru'' which is a turkish art style.thank you so much ❤️

[sonic rampart]

this is super cool omg

[charred panther]

wow

[quartz isle]

this is so gorgeous!! wow u are inspiring me to explore more mediums

[brisk crater]

That's so cool, I thought the background was digital because of how clean it looks.

[haughty tiger]

omg thank u guys you all made me so happy ❤️

[torn thicket]

this doodle was inspired by @pigmypouter
on twitter idk man i just wanted to doodle

its just online class

[spiral arch]

beautiful!!!! i love this style so much

[plain ivy]

amazing

[dark shard]

i like the proportions

[haughty tiger]

❤️

I want to learn about animation.How can I start? 😦 I know nothing about digital art for some reason...

Do you have any suggestions,youtube channels maybe

[boreal anvil]

this is satoru tsukada from "ranfren"

[burnt escarp]

that's such a cool art style!!

[burnt escarp]

THIS IS SO COOL WHAT THE HELL??

🔥

[boreal anvil]

basil pfp

[haughty tiger]

so cute

[haughty tiger]

thank you so muchh ❤️

[spring ore]

looks great

[torn thicket]

what should i draw?

confused

[spark nacelle]

do yall want to see a selfportrait i mad ehehe

[torn thicket]

ye

[spring ore]

Yessirrr

[spark nacelle]

OOOOOZOZOZOWO

here it is ehe

[haughty tiger]

it's an another work with ''ebru'' technique

[spring ore]

Looks dope

[burnt escarp]

bro you really did good with the background the swirls are so intentional to the piece if that makes sense

[covert topaz]

This is Kim Jung Ji in my style. What do you think guys ?

[molten frigate]

Sickkkk

[spring ore]

what does he say

[royal fern]

you need to have the basics down well to animate well. and honestly it depends on what program you use to animate. Harmony? Animate? Flip-a-clip? They all have layers and keyframing though. you can do a simple youtube search on how to animate or animation for beginners and lots of good videos will pop up.

[spring ore]

I tried to animate a bit on an open source software called opentoonz too
Upside : no watermark
Downside : i can't fucking animate so i don't actually know any downside for it-

[normal robin]

😂😂😂😂

even worst when u have pen downloaded in chinese

but u dont know chinese

[spring ore]

As for YouTube channel or suggestions, try to search for some beginners tutorials, to animate simples objects and things like that, since it might be a bit like 3D
We all start somewhere i guess

[royal fern]

yea, I would start with ball bounce (tennis ball and bowling ball) and a flour sack animation. helps you with exaggeration, and clarity of emotions (through exaggeration and movement).

[haughty tiger]

thank u so much ❤️

[frozen viper]

its basically saying don't ask this question again

[covert topaz]

thankksss

[covert topaz]

Don't ask this question again !!!

[proud moth]

how to genga

[spring ore]

What do you guys think about this ?

[royal fern]

it looks really nice! I'd change the tone of the bed (or whatever she's sitting on) to a darker grey so the shoes pop off - kinda blends in

[spring ore]

I believe the art world needs more phallic representation. Be it shown in the forefront of the canvas or a more "freudian" iceberg approach where the individual forms come together to form a phallic idol from the entire pictoral diagram.

[spring ore]

Aah yeah I get it now ! I'll keep that in mind Thanks !!

[spring ore]

ohh ive always loved lil fit illustrations

[brave spade]

whaddaya think?

[rugged dirge]

amazing

[royal fern]

Very good start, but if you want to get into anime style drawings you need to know some basics of anatomy (the slope of the shoulders due to the trapezius muscle, hairline/skull/scalp, and face spacing). Not sure if the cross in the center of the face are supposed to be the guidelines or not, but if so, i don't think you used them too well. I'd also focus on line weight and economy of line for your drawing to look more clean and more dimensional.

[brave spade]

ok

i will try to implement it from the next ones

[royal fern]

since it's anime the eyes and some expressions are more exaggerated, but they still stem from basic fundamental knowledge of where things belong and the sizing. in order to break the rules you need to know them typa stuff.

[radiant cedar]

this is fantastic!

[spring ore]

Added some shrooms and basic particle effects

[royal fern]

FROG!!

[burnt escarp]

i am in love with the frog statue. May i even say its the best part of the piece 😳

but genuinely i love everything about it ITS SO CALMING TO LOOK AT

[royal fern]

portrait of Rocky, my dog

[tight cradle]

AHAHAHA CUTE

[burnt escarp]

i am in love with your dog

this drawing says so many things without words needed

[spring ore]

thanks! yeah i love him too

you shoulda seen his blockout form

hes a handsome man now but when i started sculpting him it was hilariously bad

sec

lmao

always makes me laugh

no clue where i thought i was going

[royal fern]

very reminiscent of my first frog drawing 😂

[eager pilot]

He went from.the boy next door to the daddy long leg

[spring ore]

FROG !

[burnt escarp]

BLOB FROG

[spring ore]

BLOG

Actually Frob is better-

[burnt escarp]

TRUE

frob ☺️

[sullen quiver]

I love that frog lolol

[tidal wagon]

hey everyone, can someone help me out
what do they mean by "use the horizontal middle line to find the intersection" ? like the intersection of what

[placid bronze]

I think I need some more context to help out cause I'm just as confused 🤔

[tidal wagon]

oh fuck sorry i deleted my post 😭

because i got it

and felt dumb

it was that

[tropic mantle]

Hello ! Could i get some feedback on this? im not sure how to continue : (

[late garnet]

man i can't help you to continue because i'm not an artist but you for sure and friend this drawing was really amazing

i'm not talking lip service just to please i really liked it

[weak tangle]

A few tips!

1. Let the piece rest, take a few days off or a week and get to it, sometimes we need some distance from the work to fully see it.
2. I think it you may do some work with the background, since its all a kinda monochromatic color scheme you need something the stick off the character from the bg, maybe more contraste, maybe less lightning detail or just modify the tint and/or saturation. Or make the light from the lightning over the char more dramatic>

Theres a lot of things you can do with it, tho, if you feel stuck, I sincerely recommend leave it a side for a while.
Also, i think you naild the lighting tbh! ❤️

[royal fern]

really nice progress but the shading is really soft and doesnt make it look like there's really bright lights around her - needs more contrast like the other person said. try looking up the avatar lightning bending images or scenes since that's the best I can think of

[weak tangle]

Theres this thing that we all need to really work on that the "perfectionist" and a piece should be perfectly finished.. and that's not true, nothing will be perfect, ever (or au contraire, everything is perfect as it is). Some pieces are for us to experience or grow not just as and end it self. So, its okey to leave pieces that feel "unfinished", on the next one you'll know more and apply new things 🥰

[teal ibex]

I drew this for my biology assignment and although I traced most of the octopus, I'm still proud of it

(It has a beak because we're doing binomial nomenclature)

[runic viper]

can i get some feedback on this? it looks a lil wonky to me but im not quite sure. also how can i add in more texture?

[runic viper]

its so cute :3 🐙

[teal ibex]

I personally don't see any flaws in this, it looks really good! Maybe the white shading in the background just looks out of place.

[runic viper]

yeh its supposed to be like a mesh material but idk how to draw mesh

[teal ibex]

I don't know how to draw to begin with :P

[royal fern]

honestly probably with a texture brush since it's already so rendered and smoothed out at this point. I'd add more shading to the eyelid though - that's the part that weird me out the most? like it doesn't seem dark enough in value. also it's very odd the white cloth behind the face abruptly stops below the nose, I'd expect to see it above the nose too, at least a tiny bit of it.

[runic viper]

ahhhhh yessss thanks!

[next violet]

what do you think guys?

[royal fern]

dude's so swoll he defies biology 💀 really really nice job on the coloring and shading. unless you meant for your character to look ridiculously jacked, then I'd look up some reference photos of bodybuilders for anatomy help.

[next violet]

Nah just kidding dude That’s not mine

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMegoGp3m/

[next violet]

Now, that’s mine, what do you think?

[royal fern]

good stuff, I'd add more colors and values in the skintone drawings more - there's pinks, reds, greens and blues in the skin due to the blood vessels and shadows and such.

[spring ore]

Working on a big ass rifle because who doesn't like big ass rifles ?

[nocturne tendon]

a m a z i n g

[next violet]

Thx

[echo parcel]

.

[sand moon]

what's the software?

[quartz isle]

my mom and i made zongzi (sticky rice dumplings) so i drew it unwrapping 🙂 any advice? idk if the drawing at the bottom reads as rice haha

[royal fern]

looks great! love the hatching lines. I call them chinese tamales haha

[quartz isle]

hahaha that’s so true we were joking abt that, also ty!!

[spring ore]

ohh, tasty

[runic viper]

autodesk sketchbook

[spring ore]

are you going off a ref?

[quartz isle]

idk if ur asking me, but yes, i j took some photos with my phone as i ate it lol

[spring ore]

oh no haha was asking chicken

but oh can you send those pictures

[burnt escarp]

oh my gosh that shading is so good

[runic viper]

yesss i was

[spring ore]

if youre posting some art you want critique on always post the ref, helps people distinguish whats proportionally wrong, sometimes its hard to judge if forms are right since humans are squishy deformed meat bags.

[tidal wagon]

so cute 🥺

[queen sparrow]

Hello everyone!

[keen compass]

damn thats too clean

[ocean patio]

just a quick photo study

[keen compass]

the light is too nice👀

[queen sparrow]

thats so beautiful!

[ocean patio]

thx guys

i can't draw much recently

[queen sparrow]

yeah me too... too much school work

[placid bronze]

I love the design! Very interesting

[ocean patio]

i like the chill feeling

[weak tangle]

You have almost non contrast between the bg and the face, the only focus are the lips and eyes. Try working with more shadows, add a color lightning so theres more volume. Texture and that its more a personal preference, I like more textured work than soft shaded , but its up to you !

[weak tangle]

long live curry 🍛

[normal robin]

hahaahahaha

[boreal anvil]

sweet days and her last kiss

[weak tangle]

Neat study! where you thinking of adding any tint?

[ocean patio]

that was a greyscale study i didn't plan to color it

[ocean patio]

CUTE

[queen sparrow]

thats so cuute

[mighty walrus]

This looks pretty dope.

[ocean patio]

thx mate

[burnt escarp]

i am so in love with the shading and esp the lighting <33

[burnt escarp]

i am so in love with your art style!!

ITS SO CUTE

[spring ore]

Tysm it means a lottt💜💜💜🥺

[ocean patio]

there is nothing rly good there ^^ but thx^^

[ocean patio]

mate this is marvelous

[spring ore]

Ahhhh tysmm 💜ur’re so good at backgrounds tho I love ur work😩💜

[ocean patio]

i will have to finish this someday

[runic viper]

Ohhhhhh got it thxxx :D

[tall violet]

Iv'e been trying to finish this large piece for a while, so I'm mainly posting it for accountability purposes (goal is to finish it by morning), but critique would be greatly appreciated as well 🙂

[slender violet]

that looks great

i have no clue what it is

but it looks beauty

[tropic mantle]

thank you so much!!!!! ill do just that !

[tropic mantle]

O YO THATS GREAT REFERENCE THANK U !

[normal robin]

the hug pose is SO STIFF

help meßß.....

pls

[sacred dust]

My advice is to try and focus on doing more confident lines that emphasize force and momentum . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyuCq6VWVeA This tutorial was really helpful for me

[normal robin]

THANK YOU

[sacred dust]

Ofc :D

[tropic mantle]

cute!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA I used to have this same issue, I resolved it by focusing on making arced lines instead of super straight ones

[normal robin]

i mean i used to do it very wavy

but i wanna recreate the furudate sketch feels

since this is an oc of mind that im shipping with a canon character

Ushijima from haikyuu

[royal fern]

I think it looks good, but the shoulder of the girl and her angle of standing make it seems stiff (inserted bad mouse drawing edit of line of action and stuff). even though you use straight lines, I'd try to add some curvalinear lines as well

[normal robin]

oh yeah im seeing it now

lmao thx

[delicate bridge]

Hi folks. This is just a screen cap of what I'm working on. I would love some input on color choice, whether to add, keep, or tone down something. Thank u

[weary finch]

wooaaahhh idk anything about art but this looks hella cool

[royal fern]

it looks really really good! it might just be me/my monitor, but seems like the light orange background on the top right could be lighter in shade cuz it's still blending in with the scarf and arm just a tad bit (again might just be my monitor). The loss of gradientation on the scalp after the forehead also throws me off a bit - like since it goes flat, my mind also think the scalp stops turning/curving. Loving the complimentary palette and the lineless painting style tho, really crisp and clean👌

[delicate bridge]

yeah monitor RGBs vary across lol but that still helps so I know what to look out for for other platforms but sheesh both y'all are kind thank u. @royal fern could u emphasize more on the scalp 😂 I think I get what ure saying but I wanna be 100% sure cuz Im also struggling with it

should I add more of the warm orange and lessen the yellow gradient on the scalp? o-o

[royal fern]

ok so halfway through this drawing I just realized I could've just told you to refer to a shading of a sphere but I was already too far in 👁️ 👄 👁️ but since the head/scalp is like a sphere and it turns, i would expect to see some darker orange around the rim and like a light yellow/orange radiating from the highlight

done with a mouse on mspaint so pls dont roast me

[delicate bridge]

OOooOOh

[royal fern]

it might just be that your gradient on the scalp is too light and delicate to see the shading

[delicate bridge]

Okay okay I gotchu fam

no it's wonderful even with a mouse LOL I can't roast u at all

thankfully I can change the gradient style easily so yeyeeee thank u for the input, b!

[spring ore]

How did i do?

[royal fern]

nice style! kinda gouache/watercolror-esque

[spring ore]

Yesss tried something new

[weak tangle]

lovely work! ❤️ I think you have a really low contrast shades here, if that was intentional keep on going, if not, you bg is making really hard to read the drawing.
Now, color wise is really working, I would add more blue since its a nice complementary for the orange, maybe a bit of violet to add either light or shade. I don't think the darkest magenta on the arm is really working tho, you can try a a more brownish orange or even blue for that.
Also, since you have many strong composition lines diagonal (arms, jaw, hair lines) on the same direction, I would suggest a bigger dramatic/contrast over the cyan side of the face to compensate the weight.
Hope it helps !

Also, since there's such a big jump to the darkest brown, is rather heavy so the eye is making this route: hair-jaw-hair-jaw etc. You can fix this by working with other tones or bg ❤️

[delicate bridge]

make it lighter or change the background swatch to something else maybe?

[weak tangle]

the ligher Bg makes such a BIG difference

Totally works

[delicate bridge]

Aight gucci ahahah but yeah thank u for the other input! Keeping a list here to experiment through 😅

[weak tangle]

Also, now with the blue on the oposite corner the hair its a bit more balanced ❤️

[weak tangle]

Its really neat !

[delicate bridge]

Thank u kind stranger

[weak tangle]

this vector shading is a super attractive style

[royal fern]

I like the 2nd lightest one (around 3 seconds), but the very pale yellow can work as well. both protray different moods. one's supper bright and happy and the one's a more mellow-chill happy (for me)

[delicate bridge]

oooh okie dokie ~ 💚

[weak tangle]

Do welcome ! also, a tiiiiny bit of violet over the blue cheek will make a HUGE difference

Also, I never sheared my usual line of work/fun/study/yay !

Hope ya like it ^^

[royal fern]

oooo sick work! really like the asiatic monster/demon theme (not sure how else to describe it)

[weak tangle]

Exactly like that!

[delicate bridge]

Giving me a fun trip right here

[weak tangle]

my work is heavily based on folkloric monsters around the world ❤️

[weak tangle]

I have more psychedelic pieces jaja

Monsters n psychedelic, I mean, It doesn't get any better than that right? 🤣

I draw silly things too

[delicate bridge]

Sounds more like a bad trip or just DMT making u see biblically accurate angels

[weak tangle]

YES jajaja

[delicate bridge]

OMG Absolutely adorable ❤️

Cerberus but Chicken?

B r u h

[royal fern]

CHICKEN! ❤️

[weak tangle]

Yass, it was a joke over a thing people were discussing on the news, about transgenic chicken n that, saying something bout growing multiple heads and all jaja

[delicate bridge]

Wait... What news????

What is being broadcasted to you that I dont get to see

wth

[weak tangle]

Oh some local channel here jajaja

[delicate bridge]

What in the WORLD--

[weak tangle]

people be craycray

And lastly, some sketchity sketch studies, classical marble sculptures have an amazing light to make volume studies

Here is a bit late now, but we can manage to make a silent drawing-streaming session or something something like it

[royal fern]

I'm down but most of my stuff is digital animation work for now.

[weak tangle]

super interesting tbh! i know n o t h i n g about animation

[royal fern]

I'm PDT so it's kinda hard to sync up with most people on this server haha

[spring ore]

it looks awesome well done

[half monolith]

my first pixel art, criticism is welcome

[ripe timber]

hello! any musicians here? any tricks on identifying augmented 6ths quickly? also distinguishing between french, german and italian... i can't seem to fullt grasp the concept lol

[spring ore]

What do you think of my creation? https://youtu.be/BlsV4yKdS_0

[weak tangle]

Love pixel art ❤️ cant really do much critic, i know a little but, but this looks amazing !

[half monolith]

thank u !

[placid bronze]

Nicee I love the vaues! Do you have artstation/insta/etc where I could follow you maybe? 🤔

[ocean patio]

hmm yeah ihave social media but i dont post a lot. idk if we can share them here

[grand cobalt]

What do you guys think? It's a study I did on facial proportions, it's my first time drawing like this

[short kelp]

Its really nice 👍
the right hand side isn't completely align with the left, but maybe thats what you were going for

[karmic jay]

left eye and eyebrow looks bigger than the right one; the ear could be more in a more elevated position parallel to the top of the ear being on the line of the eyebrow and bottom on the nose
if you're trying to make "perfect" symmetrical proportion that is

[grand cobalt]

Thanks! I was trying to be at least kinda symmetrical, but wasnt being too hard on myself since its my first time

Will definitely keep those tips in mind

[karmic jay]

for first time is a really good result

[grand cobalt]

Thank you!!

[half monolith]

and now the first animation :ppp
i could definitely improve it but it was just a quick draft to learn the basics

[burnt escarp]

ITS SO CUTE

[ocean patio]

Woah....i have no word

[topaz wigeon]

Y'ALL ARE AMAZING ARTISTS/CREATORS 😭

[half monolith]

thank y'all...

[spring ore]

Did your intentionally make the picture not symmetrical?

[grand cobalt]

It was really just trying to practice facial proportions but i think my sketchbook or posture wasnt straight soooo its a lil crooked lol

[spring ore]

bonk

love it

[spring ore]

Guess who's back with another work on progreeeess

[sacred dust]

was doing a study but then i got bored so i made him a fairy conductor 😅

[spring ore]

Conductor to the world of the fairies
Would be a fun concept for a movie

[sacred dust]

Oh yeah youre right maybe i should flesh out that idea more

[spring ore]

I understand, well, do you start drawing with the first sketch or do you draw directly?

[grand cobalt]

Sketch! I have a few process photos

[spring ore]

Oh really? It's good

Btw your draw really good:D

[lone reef]

in love with this particular conductor fairy :))

[normal robin]

i tried to do the furudate style

[boreal anvil]

ice

nice

i forgot the n

himbo skull guy

[ocean patio]

u're all too good for me

[grand cobalt]

Thank you!!!! That means a lot

[proud moth]

gengus

[royal fern]

sus. 👀

[blazing plaza]

Hi everyone 👋 my name is Rey, im a young artist from indonesia and im glad to join and be here with all of you amazing and talented artist, hopefully i can learn more with you guys in here. have a great day everyone

[normal robin]

can someon lemme know what to improve on?

im trying to do for the furudate style

[blazing plaza]

the head is good, try to thicken a little black line on the body

then also give a little shade for the hair, and after that you can give a dark color in certain parts, for example eye,hair etc.

oh yes there is something missing, you can learn about shading for gradations from dark to light, it might be difficult but later you can add a gradient in the characters to make it look more real

[icy spruce]

The lady´s arm seem unproportional with the body and the skirt should be flatter. I mean proportionally works well. If you want my opinion about the whole drawing, it would work better if the guy was in 3/4 or more clues of social interaction between them, it may be a bit plane . I really like your drawing and how you fit in the wrinkles and the foreshortening.

About the lady´s arm the wrinkles don´t help that much, it wasn´t proportions srry

[normal robin]

whats the sorry for lmao

i asked for crit

not for a sorry wheeezeee

[icy spruce]

Bse I got confused, that´s all

*Because

[normal robin]

i knew it

XD

smth was off

[icy spruce]

I´m glad I could help 🙂

[normal robin]

👍🏾

[normal robin]

it would work better if the guy was in 3/4 ??? wdym bro

XD

3/4 like body?

[icy spruce]

yeah

[normal robin]

ah i see

[icy spruce]

the man

[normal robin]

the thing is that

hes a very social akward

person

[icy spruce]

Ahh I see

[normal robin]

VERY Stoic and blunt

so drawing him like hugging her seems like a big deal

XDDD

u literally can imagine this dude ignore his wife for days

[icy spruce]

No haha, I mean a different thing

[normal robin]

XD

[icy spruce]

It seems plane, like with no depth, in order to make a better body language he should be facing in the other direction,.

For example the girl is in 3/4, why don´t make the same with the guy but in the opposite direction?. Her body is facing towards him, but he facing towards us, and if you exagerated the body language the message would be much clear.

[normal robin]

ah i see

[normal robin]

i tried

[icy spruce]

Nice👍

[normal robin]

😌

[green sierra]

;-;

[obtuse sierra]

👀

[spring ore]

not worked on it too much recently but this is where my enironment is at atm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598085762407464982/843461962264477716/HighresScreenshot00014.png

[warm siren]

that looks sick 👌

[half monolith]

marvellous

second animation, i picked quite high resolution for a starter, which made me spend much more time on details and in the end i still have mixed feelings about it ;ppp

[spring ore]

Wow! This is masterpiece

[spring ore]

Thanks!, very fun to mess around with an environment for once

[ocean patio]

i'm jealous

[spring ore]

anyone can do it, stylised environments are pretty simple for even beginners

they have a pretty streamlined process, of prop creation, if you want to get into it at any point i recommend the channels 3dex and stylised station.

[warm siren]

i don't mess with environments a lot but i should definitely start ahah

[spring ore]

Woah this is 3D? I love it !

Here we go

Ooh cool idea could be cool to add some fog to the scene

[topaz wigeon]

^^^ agreeee fog would really complete the scene. or some sort of dust storm (if that's sand)

what did you make this on?? @spring ore

[spring ore]

That's...a good idea actually

[spring ore]

I used the god blessed blender

[topaz wigeon]

all hail

honestly when i first tried blender a couple years ago, i was just sooo confused bc i'd been using maya up until then

[median grove]

can someone just help me draw a simple man exercising..

[royal fern]

exercising what? usually finding a photo for reference helps

[spring ore]

Check your DM’s. Can’t draw btw

[median grove]

just a simple poster of exercising to avoid sickness or viruses like that

[median grove]

i appreciate it

[spring ore]

Np

[hollow onyx]

old art

[rich glacier]

owo...

[spring ore]

Well i don't have the money for Maya and bender can do a lot of things too
But I understand, the software is confusing as hell when you start

i mean if youre a student you can get maya for free (among other ways to get it), but honestly from somebody that has used maya for years. Blender is better in most ways. Doesnt make maya bad just blender is way more artist friendly rather than maya which is pipeline friendly.

[rich glacier]

but why did you kill me? :0

[spring ore]

oh?

[rich glacier]

/j nevermind.

[spring ore]

I'm not an art student so i can't access it x')
However i agree that blender is good to learn a lot of things, you can sculpt, model, texture, shade and do a whole lot of crazy shit with it, it's cool-

i just lied about what course i was on and they still let me have it, maybe they changed it, but i dont think they thoroughly check it.

[spring ore]

Bahaha
I'm still good with blender for now tho-
But I'll try it with Maya later

[warm siren]

you got in his way he was going to be a god XD

[ocean patio]

what about zbrush ? is it that bad ?

[normal robin]

help me... this looks off

legs?

[karmic jay]

her legs look too short

foreshortening looks wrong

[rich glacier]

ikr !!!

its cuz, I believe in justice and he just acts it when needed to

He's not god, he's a child with a kill list.

[warm siren]

Ahah I'm currently reading "the Los Angeles bb murder cases" idk if you've read it but I think you'd love the way mello talks about him 😂

[last inlet]

https://meet.google.com/fmq-nqzi-yuk

i need help pls

[karmic jay]

hm?

[karmic jay]

what do you need help with?

[last inlet]

school work

including v.a

[mint garden]

does blender need a lot of ram to run and work properly?

i know nothing about blender so asking if I can start working on it

[royal fern]

define "work properly"

[mint garden]

i meant to do It's job, you know

[royal fern]

if you'r trying to get it to run fully smooth then it honestly kinda depends on your entire computer system with at least 8gb ram

[mint garden]

wooo

[royal fern]

if you're a professional then probably 16+ RAM with good CPU and GPU

[mint garden]

noice

[spring ore]

Well i use a Lenovo yoga, blender has some difficulties and i can't ask too much, but it definitely work

[mint garden]

i have a dell laptop with 4 GB ram. Inspiron 15 core i3

think it can run it?

i Don't think so🤣🤣🤣 illustrator crushes when I open it. might buy a good pc someday then start working

[royal fern]

yea, I think the i3 core is killin ya

[mint garden]

☹️☹️☹️

[spring ore]

Yeah i have a I3 core too
And i can do these :

[boreal anvil]

my oc's

[quartz isle]

this is a sketch for a dress i’m making but if anyone has figure advice that would be great 😄

[quartz isle]

these r so good! i feel like they have a lot of personality and ur drawing style is super cute

[ocean patio]

Teach me

[somber portal]

Reminded me of Riko and Reg from Made in Abyss haha

[boreal anvil]

they are the main inspiration

[spring ore]

I've got some made in abyss vibes from the girl on the left, i really like it tho-

[spring ore]

Oh well i just read the others messages XD

[keen cloak]

Hello

Is there anyonu who studies architecture

[spring ore]

Wow i love ur style

[fading schooner]

anybody here take IB visual arts?

[merry tendon]

hello guys
i am an artist on instagram
if would be really great if you all will support my page paintdrop__
i am quite near 1K followers will be great if you follow my account
thank you<3

https://www.instagram.com/paintdrop__/

[royal fern]

no but i can help

[tropic mantle]

Hello again! Ive done some updates on the piece i asked help for! Any feedback?

[shy tendon]

thats pretty neat

[open birch]

Any feedback

[royal fern]

nice piece! only feedback is go heavier on the paint application so you don't see the white canvas underneath

[karmic jay]

I think you did what is called overblending

between the left arm and the side of her torso, it's clear that there is light and shadow. Your shadows and lights are not defined, the transition between them is too big and it causes this effect that looks unnatural

[spring ore]

I just don't think long hair has the same quality as short hair maybe you can straighten it on it

[karmic jay]

her balance is kind of strange too, she's tilting but her head is still, in real life, she would lose a little bit of balance, and would be difficult for her to stand that way

[karmic jay]

I agree, the long hair parts are too simple/no texture

[spring ore]

yep

[spring ore]

and the lights makes on long hair don't look very nice

[karmic jay]

@tropic mantle if you want direct help, I can try and draw the same pose more realistically and you can translate to your style

ours don't match but I want to just try the pose itself

no pressure though, I am just offering practical help

[sharp kraken]

hi!! just wanted to grab outside opinions before continuing-

is the shoulder i’m pointing at

too short??? i’m not sure 😞

also hand tips? : o

the double bump thingy i’m fixing now, but any other anatomy that is wonky?? ive been looking at it for so long its kinda hard to tell 😅

[karmic jay]

@sharp kraken can you take another picture, but the whole drawing instead of cropped?

[sharp kraken]

yep!

sorry it’s kinda hard to tell in some areas : ( the clothing is too intricate ><

[karmic jay]

I think there is nothing wrong with it

[sharp kraken]

alright ty!!! i’m likely just overthinking 😅

[karmic jay]

you're doing everything with a consistent style

so I think it's good for what you want

[karmic jay]

artist moment

[sharp kraken]

hahah too true

ty! : D

[karmic jay]

the hands are good, but this index finger (pointing finger) is too big

[sharp kraken]

oo ok ty : o

[karmic jay]

@sharp kraken I am wrong, sorry

[sharp kraken]

o

[karmic jay]

the index finger is good, I can see the intention of it being on the side

[sharp kraken]

ahh yeah that is a little what i was going for, i’ll try to make that more obvious ythough : )

[karmic jay]

yes, try to make it obvious

either with lines or with shading

because without those indications it just looks like a blob

[karmic jay]

I hope you get my point with that

[dapper pier]

here's my latest unfinished portrait , i need your opinion

[eternal geyser]

Wow it looks so realistic, so far so good👍

[karmic jay]

it looks awesome, though the highlights can be more brighter

I don't know if the face is finished so that's what I think it's the best

[tropic mantle]

Thank you for the feedback! ill work on fixing it

[tropic mantle]

hi ! Thank you for the tips !!! Ill make good use of them !! And sure that would be super helpful to me!!!!

[karmic jay]

cool, glad I helped

when do you have some free time? we can join on the chill out VC and try to do some sketches about it

[tropic mantle]

im free at the moment : )

[karmic jay]

I can't do it right now, sorry

[tropic mantle]

dont worry about it!!

[steady sphinx]

Omg wowwwww

Iejdjsbsksvsnxkwseo

Twat

TWT

U make me cry

Y r ppl so talented?

[spring ore]

Be aware, this is not the final product
But i still like the first result-

and i like compliments too

[royal fern]

the one cloud going in a different direction is throwing me off wack - usually they go in the same direction due to wind pushing the clouds. really nice vibe and atmosphere it's giving off though.

[spring ore]

I noticed it too, and the overall look of the clouds is not as good as i wanted it to be, the sky is not blue enough, and it's overall a bit empty
I'll add a few smaller floating rocks around as well as some rocks on the ground, maybe an ambient occlusion (or whatever the name is, my dumbass forgot) to add some volume

[ocean patio]

@spring ore have you done some thumbnails before diving into this composition ? I agree with Bean about the cloud issue. I like the idea of rocks kinda merging into clouds. Floating rocks are really well done imo but if their are the true subject i think they must pop off more. Don't forget the story behind scenes. (IM SO SORRY IM RLY BAD AT DRAWING AND FAR FROM SOMEONE WHO CAN JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE WORK TT__TT)

[spring ore]

Okay, not gonna lie i just do it like that without a lot of reflexion, it's inspired by the work of a friend (who drew a similar view) x)
As i said, i noticed the cloud and I'll try to fix it, but i was too far in the render and i wasn't ready to sacrifice half an hour of rendering right now-

Making them pop off more is a good idea tho, maybe adding a few more ''big'' rocks, or making them bigger would be a good idea
As for the story behind the scene
There is no story behind the scene i think, it's just big floating rocks
But !
I'll try to make some visual storytelling in my next piece as it sound like a great idea

[royal fern]

the lack of gradientation in the sky also makes it seem a bit 2 dimensional. it need to have a light to dark gradient in some direction

[ocean patio]

true

here's a tiny scribble xD

[karmic jay]

it looks like a liminal space of some sort

[spring ore]

Indeed, i tried to find some sky material but i couldn't make it work, I'll fix that

[spring ore]

God you're right-

[tribal tartan]

Hello ! I looking for some who work/learn video editing/ VFX like me :)
When i come back from vacation i want to start twinmotion or unreal engine course

[steady sphinx]

This is so good TwT bye.

[spring ore]

Thanks !

[stoic sluice]

whoaaa unreal engine, what course is this?

[spring ore]

Very nice

[vivid trench]

cute

[spring ore]

there we go

[karmic jay]

it is kind of weird looking how the mountains have close to no shade

[spring ore]

maybe i should add some sort of fog?

[ocean patio]

where is the the light source ? Is that dusk ?^^ it seems to be dusk with sun falling left but lights on floating rocks are right side and on the ground its the opposite ^^ I like this one more than the previous one

[spring ore]

it's supposed to be on the right and yes it's dusk ^^, i noticed the light problem on the right too but i didn't managed to change it
and oh god i noticed the rock on the ground, i'll fix it

[lost skiff]

Great stuff. One think I would like to see is some gradient in the ywello

[open birch]

Some sketches I did while in class lol

[ocean patio]

first version

[torn quail]

😀

[proper zenith]

not as beautiful as your pictures but

[tidal wagon]

how do you guys focus while drawing, like for solids hours whitout music or podcasts

because, i'm trying to achieve that, but it's too hard, my brain keep going here and there
should i talk to myself in my head more ? like "this line goes there, if I do that it will result to that" etc ?

because focusing on books, maths etc, is more do-able, you try to understand whats written down, but when it comes to drawing it feels different at some point

[spring ore]

I really love 3D, it's probably the same for 2D drawing, but i have an idea and i focus on it, i need to see a result, weither it be a sketch of the final result or just a small piece.
Basically how i do it is focusing on the idea i have and the result i want.

Dunno if it helped tho-

[tidal wagon]

It actually was pretty helpful, I guess I'm not able to see beyond what's in front of me properly and I'm doing random things hoping it works

thank you Alias !

[royal fern]

I either have music just to block out distracting noises. For me I just blank out and draw and try to improve my motor skills during it, because that's what drawing is.

[tidal wagon]

Yeah I agree, that's a part of what drawing is, but if you want to actually learn, you have to focus and understand what you're practicing so you can be better and faster at it

[royal fern]

usually there's lecture then lab/studio courses so I don't worry about that too much, plus there's rough sketches into final iterations

[tidal wagon]

I'm using "fun with a pencil" of Loomis right now to focus on some basics, and I'm doing some turn around heads of his facial expression "folks" that's kind of tough so I tend to get frustrated and my brain fly away when it happens, like I will think about random things about my life I really don't want to spend time on xD I rather eat my piece of paper instead on focusing on those things

[spring ore]

No problems
Music help a lot for the imagination, i listen to a lot of movie/trailer music (y'know these YouTube channel who put music with over the top titles like ''epic battle trailer movie rock music''), it help me imagine a lot of things, and then it's mostly training, you start with small things like drawing a lil' dude and you end up making some cool things-
I started by drawing random things too but eventually you'll find something you like ^^

[tidal wagon]

Yeah I love those, Ivan Torrent, Two Step from Hell ... piano compilation, they're all great to imerge into your own world ! They're great for personal project, but I feel like I'm not putting too much "brain" into my work ... Idk maybe I'm just being weird
Anyway thank you again Alias !

@royal fern Thanks to you too ColoBeans !

[spring ore]

Excellent choice of music 👀
No problems again, i believe in you x)

[tidal wagon]

!!! Thank you !! I believe in you too !!!

[spring ore]

Danke x)

[tidal wagon]

De rien 😄

[lost mist]

check this out

[haughty kestrel]

I finished this

[magic wyvern]

thats not a bugatti

[delicate bridge]

I like that you kept in the stroke-styles. Did u use sometihng like copic markers to color in the car?

[lost mist]

winsor and newton promarkers

this was my first attempt with them

[delicate bridge]

aaay. I dont use that brand often but they are one of the quality ones

that's a great first attempt!

[lost mist]

woah nice

[lost mist]

thanks

[delicate bridge]

U tryna do interiors for cars? 👀

[swift pendant]

focusing on interior and exterior design, yeah

[spring ore]

oh damn

[lost mist]

lambo sian

[swift pendant]

yeah, beautiful car

[lost mist]

eh, its ok, but that drawing is so good

[swift pendant]

thanks man

[lost mist]

ur interiour is so nice

[swift pendant]

im currently drawing the audi e-tron

[lost mist]

the exteriour the wheels can be bigger, but it looks nice overall

[lost mist]

nice

[knotty lance]

I’m planning to transfer from digi art to paper, does anyone have tips on how to avoid messing stuff up-

[karmic jay]

I just go with the flow, it is something I like so much I don't even need to try to focus. BUT my attention to other things is very bad and I am trying to better that. I advise you to be more aware about trying to do other any type of distraction

for me, distraction is almost automatic, I don't really choose when I start to drift

so being aware when I'm doing that is my way to combat that

other thing I did is to write something whenever I drifted, it's shocking how much I did it, I recommend you do that too

[normal robin]

i always set my self yes or no question

the line okay?

no

dont ask why

just 1 question one answer

[spring ore]

oh yeah for that i just kinda had to train myself to focus, started off with a timer of about 10 minutes drew 100% concentrated for that then stopped when the timer went off had a break then went back on

takes a bit but now i can do it for 10-12 hrs

best way to do it if youre easily distracted imo

[flint nimbus]

hey if u were drawing characters that were generally small so u cant really add much detail to the face how would u do it cause mine just keeps looking droopy

^ asking anyone btw

[normal robin]

simplify it

[cursive ginkgo]

i hope this reply isn't too late! I think yes simplify, but its a bit broad of an answer. You should prioritize the most important features, like what features are most important in expressing the character you're drawing. Or if it's a bit more environmental, you should prioritize the largest shadows/highlights. Think about how cartoons seem to prioritize eyes for expression and makes it easy to identify a character

[flint nimbus]

omg it isnt too late thank youuuuu

[spring ore]

This my Drawing👍

Hope you like it

[eager pilot]

This was made by my bff, she asked for ur opinions

[lost mist]

amazing

[lost mist]

this was my first attempt, i wanted somethhing easy

Im trying new things out, first attempt on eye. Plz give feedback!

[karmic jay]

blur your vision and try to look at anything. You will see colors and some forms, but no detail nor texture.

[true hornet]

heyo does anyone have some tips or critique for me on this sketch so far (anatomy , proportion wise would be helpful) tyvm

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/280779561342468099/845699179531468826/Unbenanntes_Projekt.png?width=890&height=1133

[stone blade]

your arms are smaller in proportion to the face same with the legs.

i would suggest going to figure reference one more time

[true hornet]

I didnt reference the pose

Would u suggest making the head smaller or Arms/legs bigger ?@stone blade

[tacit plover]

OMG

[swift pendant]

haha, thanks

[royal fern]

watch out for how you approach the eyelashes - they curve up and out versus straight sticks, and they follow the waterline. you do a good job on some parts, but for a majority of the eyelashes that's the problem. great job on the whites of the eye; not many people understand that although they are called the whites of the eye, they are still shaded.

[royal fern]

good pose but like you said, anatomy and proportion could use a bit of work. since it's art you can take some liberties with proportion and anatomy but it seems like you're going for the more realistic type. i made the mistake of using aqua and red and now it looks like a 3d glasses drawing, myb

the biggest thing i found was to check the length of one arm and leg to the other, and as for the hands - use your's for reference! using a basic "mitten" hand helps a lot too before you move onto blocking in the fingers themselves

[true hornet]

@royal fern ty so much

i started drawing 2 weeks ago so i have still enormous problems grasping proportions / perspective (especially foreshortening) , anatomy (especially hands) and many other things

[royal fern]

I can go into detail of what I did- but for the super basics there's the ribcage and pelvis which you can simplify to an egg and a rectangle.

[true hornet]

those were the forms i used

idk if i should change them up

[normal robin]

please help me on the anatomy

her hips is supposed to be that sall

small

im just insecure about the dude position

it doesnt look like it fit in my opinion

[royal fern]

boobs are honestly really flexible and various but usually people go for super perky ones just so it looks more....anatomically correct? I guess? I would take out the round sphere for the waist and use either an egg shape or thicker rectangle for the ribcage

[normal robin]

pls go light on me

[true hornet]

im no expert on drawing boobs sadly

[normal robin]

imagine a water ballon

[true hornet]

i learned that they behave like waterballons to some extent pressing on the chest being bit perky on the other side

[normal robin]

AHAHHAHA same mindset and brain cells

[true hornet]

[normal robin]

i mean if they are super tight like in a sport bra then you can draw them higher up

if not then they end around half the ribcage

[true hornet]

now i have to draw clothing which is still super hard for me

[royal fern]

i think it might be the placement of the guy's neck and head - it should be a bit more forward? in the current state it looks like he's relaxing in a chair instead of doin a sit up type of thing

[true hornet]

idk how boobs behave in clothing

[normal robin]

if they are saggy (like into old age) then they can literally end at the last ribcage bone

[royal fern]

mnnn not really. boobs are literally sacks of fat. if anything imagine thick jello

[normal robin]

ye ye hes supposed to be on a bundle of pillow

sry XD

[royal fern]

it looks fine then, i think it just looks weird cuz there's literally no support underneath him. it's like if you drew someone dead lifting without the weights.

[normal robin]

for sude

sure

i mean im worry about this part

thigh arent pillows

so they dont get smush

but only a lil

but since this dude is a atlethe does it appy as well ?

or is it like

sitting on a chair?

[royal fern]

they get smushed but if you have a considerable amount of muscle it doesn't "spill" as much since it's more taught.

[true hornet]

@royal fern tyvm for the help again , really helped me a lot

[lost mist]

wow thanks for the feedback, will improve in the future!

guys new drawing, took inspiration from chanel Artville, let me know what you think!!

close ups

[karmic jay]

I think his back is too strait

[karmic jay]

those reflections, nice job

[weak tangle]

Mhhh.... the dudes position is super stiff, it requieres A LOT of core muscle tension if he's not having any back support. That said, if he's tightening the core to maintain that position, the rectus femoris will be super tight with the tensor fasciae latae and vastus lateralis, so no, no squishy. If not, no, it need to have a bit of a curvature for the pressure

[normal robin]

oh no no im sorry

hahaha

hahaha

any tip for back ground

im open to it

im fairly bad at bg

this was my ref

people say i should practice more back ground but idk where to begin..

XD

[weak tangle]

The easiest way is waterballon, yes, or like a drop of water. BUT breasts comes in so many shapes . The waterballoon alegory helps you understand the weight of the breast and have a more "natural" looking fall

[weak tangle]

perspective

[weak tangle]

it works

[normal robin]

my back ground lack texture and details

[weak tangle]

Its not needeed for this

Think of this: whats the focus on the scene?

[normal robin]

the couple

[weak tangle]

Exactly. If you add to much work of detail to the bg it would withdraw atention from the couple

[normal robin]

yeah but like the bg in this many say the blur destroy the entire piece

wich kind amakes me worry

and if i undo the blur

[weak tangle]

Having a simple bg, blured, difuminated makes layers of visual density, so, if the characters are working together with the bg maybe you'll have some parts more worked out and some more sketched

[weak tangle]

Nah, it gives focus. You can also makje the bg clearer if you're gonna make it less blured

[normal robin]

clearer?

[weak tangle]

lighter

[normal robin]

this is without blur

[weak tangle]

Think of this: the lowest values of a picture is where the eye will focus naturally

So, if you want to focus on this figure, that has the lowest values as black, you can make the bg ligther to make the eye stay of the couple and not wander to the back

[normal robin]

ah i see

[weak tangle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_qj5_WptnE

She explains it super easy

[normal robin]

👌 ui thank you

[weak tangle]

this is an easy example

[normal robin]

oh yeah

[weak tangle]

You have 3 layers of information:

• the character in full detail
• the soldiers, other characters that help to the narrative of the picture but are not that important
• and the hundred people meshed in the bg, because that density of information is not necessary

jaja sorry for the super long explanation ! hope it helps ❤️

[normal robin]

it does lmao

and if u got abit more time

pls help with this another one

[weak tangle]

Also, if you think you need to improve you bg, the best way is start doing perspective studies AND work the picture backwards, start with the bg and then add the characters

[weak tangle]

sure

[normal robin]

more anatomy

[weak tangle]

Okay, the shoulders are doing something weird here jaja

[normal robin]

me: sweats furiously

yes?

[weak tangle]

I think the main issue is that you're making the arm shorter

give me a bit and ill try to make some lines over if your fine with that

[normal robin]

ye ye

go ahead

[weak tangle]

Here's whats happening

you're making mostly one direction and its looking a bit unbalanced

[normal robin]

oof

...

[normal robin]

oh yeah

[weak tangle]

Hips and shoulders tend to make a balance on almost every pose

Hope it helps 🙏

[true hornet]

@weak tangle Ty for the help

[weak tangle]

✨

[normal robin]

👌👌

[normal robin]

so i keep the right arm? (her right

[weak tangle]

The shoulder should be a bit higher and that should fix the lenght of the arm, if not, loweer the elbow to match the waist

as a reference, almost always the elbow ends up in the waist

[worldly trench]

Nice observation ibeodd

[normal robin]

i see

oki

young artist mistakes...

😩

[true hornet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/280779561342468099/846053183284707388/Unbenanntes_Projekt.png?width=890&height=1133

i think

i finally fixed my anatomy

bot wont let me post the picture cause its explicit

[normal robin]

arm too short?

[lost mist]

thanks

[prime briar]

I think looks good but the hand 🤚 itself is in a bit weird position, maybe it’s me tho ...

[normal robin]

prob

[royal fern]

the other arm is fine, but the arm far away is showing too much. the female is being viewed at an angle so you shouldn't be able to see all of her other arm unless it's kinda hunched like the character is disgusted or cold or w/e. I thought the arm was where the shirt was, and I think it would belong there and the shirt would kinda connect near the neck due to the viewing angle

this for reference

also boob-torso and other arm observations

[ocean patio]

doing some thumbnails to make a city background

xD

[royal fern]

@normal robin as for the single green line in my edit - the boob/pectoral muscle is connected to the shoulder/arm (peepo for censorship to prevent uncomfortableness). it's not always visible unless ur more muscular but its a good guideline

[royal fern]

I could never, I hate perspective LOL.

[ocean patio]

i have more struggle drawing a human than making perspective xD and to me the most difficult is sculpting details in the cubes u make, making everything coherent is not easy

and storytelling in background ooooffff

@royal fern

xD

[royal fern]

I guess, haha. perspective is too accurate and mathamatical for me. humans are organic so mistakes are easy to bypass

[ocean patio]

Furthermore perspective don't have to be 100% accurate even more in this kind of background since eveything is living

[royal fern]

hmnn

[ocean patio]

I think u have a great opinion on persp while u are using it constantly on humans xD

xD

maybe we could draw together so i can learn from you !

one day

[royal fern]

maybe haha

[normal robin]

👍👍thx

[lethal nebula]

I understand Im not good but what do y'all think?

[normal robin]

very interesting?

finished

[analog dew]

looks real cool

[spring ore]

very surreal

[spring ore]

Picasso is shaking

Welp! All of you barely need help lol. Here I am, in love with drawing but can barely draw a stick figure

[lethal nebula]

😄

Somebody call an ambulance.... But not for me! 🔫

[karmic jay]

need any help?

[spring ore]

Why must thou hurt me this way, oh cruel stranger

[spring ore]

Wait really?!?!!??

I should warn you, good human. I'm at level zero

[karmic jay]

we all start somewhere

(very normally at 0)

[spring ore]

Point mad!

*made

Wait... so there was a time when all you hyper artistic folk couldn't draw an eye???

Hard to believe tbh

[normal robin]

eh?

[karmic jay]

what?

[spring ore]

As in, all these amazing artists also went through a phase where drawing something as simple as a stick figure intimidated them?

[karmic jay]

oh right

everyone is this way, we are all born on 'default mode'

[spring ore]

Sometimes I think there's something wrong with me. Like, everyone can draw an eye. EXCEPT ME!

[spring ore]

wow. Ngl, this actually calmed my nerves for some reason. "Default mode" is way better than "talentless potato"

[karmic jay]

practice
study
observation
perception
influence
coordination
memory
all of those things play out when you draw

if you don't have any of those, it might be harder to draw anything

good thing is that all of those are "trainable"

[spring ore]

Study?... Study as in reading about color theory etc?

[karmic jay]

study in the most broad way
seeing other peoples techniques
studying anatomy
studying form
studying tone/color/hue
etc

[spring ore]

I think I see the problem. I try too hard to draw. But I never have a vision for it. And I never look for reference. In short; I'm trying to draw from memory, even though I'm at super beginner mode.

[spring ore]

Ah! That makes sense

[karmic jay]

doing that is good and bad

the bad is that you are probably studying "wrong" and doing too much work for little improvement
the good is that starting drawing from memory in the beginning is great

because you are definitely going to need it in the future

[spring ore]

For example, I try to draw eyes. But I don't look at eyes before deciding to draw them. So I always get awkward lash placements etc

Should I continue this and wait for it to develop overtime? Or should I get into a proper routine with reference?

[karmic jay]

proper routine

[spring ore]

As in search for a reference image. Stare at it. Try to mimick its placements. so on

[karmic jay]

memory is to be trained whenever you have the patience and enough control of the subject and the pencil/pen control

[normal robin]

theres no wrong way to draw an eye honestly

you can put 2 dots down

and call that eyes

[karmic jay]

agree, it could be symbolic drawing

[normal robin]

ye

if you ask me to draw an eye

[karmic jay]

@spring ore what is your goal? like, name a few artists you would like to have their styles or something like that

[normal robin]

eyes

[spring ore]

Damn!

You're good

[spring ore]

I have no idea. I'm going to be honest with you, I start a drawing by trying to recreate the eyes from cough cough painter of the night and often end up with a weird looking "realism" in them

[normal robin]

realism was never easy

😂😂

😗

[spring ore]

I literally have no direction. Maybe I should pick a style and research into how it's made and everything.

[normal robin]

yeah go for that

for me i traced at the beginning

[karmic jay]

don't pick a style, but search what you like and aim at the direction you want

[normal robin]

cuz i didnt know where to start

[karmic jay]

picking a definite style will set boundaries on you

and it could be hard to get out

[spring ore]

I swear. I will try to create a cartoonish eye and end up with a drawing that looked like a failed attempt at realism

[karmic jay]

though it's good to focus on one at a time

[normal robin]

well

you dont need to be so harsh

we all been there

[karmic jay]

tracing is great, but don't just copy the thing you are seeing, understand it

[spring ore]

oh alright. So just keep experimenting until I get it, huh?

[karmic jay]

pretty much, choose what you like and work on it

like, I love 93273892 artists, and I normally try to copy them but copying just one would be kinda bad because it would be his drawing but downgraded

[normal robin]

Xd

well

we are all trying

for me i picked mangaka furudate

[spring ore]

Which one is better to start with? Living things or materials?

[karmic jay]

copying is understanding how the artist thought and how he made into the illustration, just copying the lines without understanding is very bad

[normal robin]

i mean for starter

later on

i did drawwith understandinf

mixing art styles

furudate with hyann natsu

not from me

natsu on yt rlly played a role on how i color

[karmic jay]

what do you want to draw? like, would you like to draw only cars? buildings? portraits? surrealism?

[spring ore]

This

This is what rekindled my love for art

This art style

[normal robin]

webtoon

😂lets go

funny enough

i been getting comment asking if i do webtoon

[spring ore]

I have no idea. I see a painting of a landscape, I want to paint it. I see a sketch of the Karakoram highway, I want to sketch it. I see a manga cutie, I want to draw him

I am lost between wanting to do everything and not knowing how to do anything

[spring ore]

Most have harsh lines. This sort of soft style is what fascinates me

[karmic jay]

if you want to draw everything, start trying to make something 3d from something 2d

I mean simple things, obviously

square -> cube
circle -> sphere
triangle -> pyramid

learn how to bend them too, not just a perfect circle, but a strange blob too

[spring ore]

Now that you mention it... The only 3d shape I can draw is a cube

That would be a great start

[karmic jay]

don't worry about perspective YET

focus on form and volume

try to indicate with lines or faces the direction of the object

[spring ore]

Got it

To see how and where a sphere is lying

Not just an abstract sphere

[karmic jay]

you can use crosshatching, or drawing a grid on the form, you can use tones too

[karmic jay]

you can do both for now, I think

just a sphere in the middle of nowhere is fine

[spring ore]

Huh?

[karmic jay]

crosshatching

(not mine)

[spring ore]

Woah

A youtube tutorial on this seems like it would help

Hehe

[karmic jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIIpEuLxsiI

again, just worry about getting the form right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T_-DiAzYBc

this guy is perfect

I have lots of reference and videos, so if you want any help just @ me

[spring ore]

OMG!!! I was actually out on YT looking for tutorials and confused with what to pick. Tysm for sending these

You're an angel

[karmic jay]

be careful though, a lot of youtube/pinterest/instagram content is useless

like, bad, generic and bland tutorials

you will learn how to spot them once you have seen enough

the best tip I can give you is to never stop, no matter how bad it's looking, you can always fix it

you control the pencil, you control the paper

also about that, try to work with pencil/pen manipulation, don't jump into drawing forms without knowing how to draw lines

[spring ore]

Wow really?😲

i'll remember to give you a ping once I practice with this beginner stuff you taught me

Thank you so much!

💙

[normal robin]

literally the style i have honestly

they use more of a g pen

i use a softer version

[spring ore]

YESSS! I didn't know how to describe the "softness" but even though your drawing and the one I screenshotted are a totally different vibe, there's this... Coziness about this style that I love

It doesn't intimidate me like most webtoon art

[normal robin]

👀☺️☺️

[normal robin]

they are racing against time

wich i fully get

their backgrounds are models

wich skip u the hassle of drawing them

wich save you lots of time if u r doing comics

[spring ore]

Don't be shy. Drop the release date of this webtoon of yours. I swear to God these two are genuinely interesting characters even though it's just one picture

[normal robin]

but i do illustraition

[normal robin]

😂😂😂😂😂

dude

ill be an one man army

[spring ore]

Isn't that cheating!!!

[normal robin]

honestly its not

sure it save you time

since most of the webtoon artist are one man arm

[spring ore]

Oh i don't know the moral code of the art underworld

[normal robin]

you dont look at webtoon panels the same way as a illustraition

[normal robin]

dont trace and call it ur own

trace but keep it as study

[spring ore]

Truee.... So much work

[spring ore]

That makes sense

[normal robin]

and to keep up they update once a week

imagine.

being one man

completing 30 panels

that takes alot of time not to mention story design

[spring ore]

Yeah. I've seen docus of how mistreated webtoon artists are

By the sites they work for

[normal robin]

if you look at my illustration it takes 4 hours

[spring ore]

WHAT?

[normal robin]

its honestly thrilling

you get to show off your skills

[spring ore]

I thought once you became a pro, it took like 10 minutes

So it's ALWAYS gonna take long

[normal robin]

you cant exactly rush art

[spring ore]

That's a turn off. Ngl

[normal robin]

by that i mean learning

it takes months for me to get my anatomy skill to a decent level

but i still makes mistakes

forgetting the basic

but my best advice is

to use references

[spring ore]

Is there supposed to be something off with this? It looks perfect to me

[normal robin]

if you look at background

you can see the head broad

the mirror

and the thingy idk wtf it is honestly

silver plate lining that run on the wall

[spring ore]

It's a silver plate lining that runs on the wall

Lmao

[normal robin]

i just alter it to my liking

😂

as for the pose

[spring ore]

I SEE IT. So that's what using a reference means. Not copying it. Studying it

[normal robin]

the first pic is for the pant texture

[normal robin]

well 1 on 1 copy is helpful to train ur eye

studying it happens when you are consious of whats actrually going on

these could help

[spring ore]

Ohhhhh

[spring ore]

Wow... Things look different when you try to mimick them in your head

Do you use a tablet?

[normal robin]

yeah!

[normal robin]

ofc O.O

i had my first tablet after saving up 40 euro

brought myself a used wacom tablet

it get the job done

[karmic jay]

np, we're all going to make it

[normal robin]

after that i went on to get a ipad air

with pen

[spring ore]

That's 8000 rupees...😳

[normal robin]

its fairly cheap here

im in school and paying for my own stuff

to i barely have enough

😂

[spring ore]

Do you work?

[normal robin]

i do

just small things

before i start commissioning

aka drawing for money

😩

balancing school , work and hobbies is pretty intense

but i enjoyed it

i meet now people at work

hobbies help me stay motivated

[spring ore]

Man I wish we had a job-culture here in South Asia. That would really put some of the burden off of my father

[normal robin]

😂👍all worked out... wonder woman in a nutshell

[normal robin]

i was in vietnam before i came here

to germany

i got a schoolarship and i just take flights

😂

[spring ore]

Wow

Good for you my guy.

Plane tickets are as expensive as someone's yearly wage here lol

Even within the country

Flying to the west with no sense of direction is gonna cost a fortune. Not to mention how hard getting a visa is for Muslims.

[verbal badger]

can someone show me some tips about shädbase drawing?