✅ - Strange behavior after new firmware

[thin vortex]

Long story short I had to get some new firmware for my Ender 3 Max.
First print with the new firmware was supposed to be a calibration cube, but for some reason it did this.
Anyone recognize what might be going on?

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[frank flax]

almost looks like one of your belts came off

[thin vortex]

I was wondering if one of the axes wasn’t working, but manually moving it with the panel was no issue

[frank flax]

i mean are your belts tight? are your steppers in?

i cant tell if its x or y failing on the pic

[thin vortex]

Yeah, belts are tight and stepper is secure

[frank flax]

can you move them via the controls

[thin vortex]

Yes, no issue there

[frank flax]

what firmware did you install?

i guess thinking now that shouldnt matter

if they work initially

[thin vortex]

Jyer’s firmware it seems

[frank flax]

can you send the gcode for your cube?

[thin vortex]

Yeah, 1 sec

Oh, the card is unreadable

Maybe that’s the problem

[frank flax]

theres the problem

1000%

your printer just had a stroke

[thin vortex]

Sounds like it’s time to fix my octoprint box

[frank flax]

for sure

portainer is a lifesaver

can have it back in about 5 min

[thin vortex]

And it did it again, different side this time

[frank flax]

new sd card?

[thin vortex]

No, I was able to reformat it through drive manager

[frank flax]

itd be worth trying a new card

you using octoprint?

you can print direct from octo

no card

[thin vortex]

That’s what I had been doing, but since the problem that cause all of this I haven’t been able to get it to run.
Don’t have any more cards so I’ll pull out some monitors and try to fix this

[thin vortex]

Got octoprint reflashed and working
Still doing it, this has got to be firmware related in some way, right?

[frank flax]

same gcode?

[thin vortex]

More or less
Had to reslice and send it, but I didn’t change anything else
Interestingly it messed up on the same side as last time

[frank flax]

a reslice would be new gcode... maybe firmware?

[thin vortex]

Nothing seems off in the code at first glance though since the y is in fact changing

[frank flax]

can you send the gcode?

[frank flax]

nothing looks off there.. may try firmware next

[thin vortex]

Guess I’ll go back to searching since support won’t answer me on the original firmware

[frank flax]

refresh my memory what machine do you have?

[thin vortex]

Ender 3 Max, 4.2.2 board

[frank flax]

hang on

with a leveler?

https://github.com/InsanityAutomation/Marlin/tree/CrealityDwin_2.0/Hex Files

firmware_Ender3Max_422_DW7.4.7.bin.zip

without a leveler

[thin vortex]

No leveler, and that's actually the firmware currently loaded

[frank flax]

well that settles that part of it

how does it do for printing like a bed level test

gcode is fine.. i just ran it through cura

[thin vortex]

I’ll give that a shot, I’ve just been trying to print a calibration cube so far

[frank flax]

can i get a pic of your whole printeR?

everything looks good

[thin vortex]

1 sec, needed to remove something

Gonna try and NOT dox myself with a mousepad

[frank flax]

oh shoot i wasnt even paying attention haha

but everything looks goo don the printer...

[thin vortex]

Did it again with a bed test
Looked like it started doing it to the center section first, then moved to the next one and continued doing it

[frank flax]

hmm... maybe try to reflash with that firmware.. you may have to relabel the filename to firmware.hex

[thin vortex]

Alright

Firmware.hex or firmware.hex.bin?

[frank flax]

.hex

[thin vortex]

Hm, didn’t seem to do anything on startup
Unless the flash is indistinguishable from the startup

[frank flax]

should have a brief pause

[thin vortex]

Wasn’t having any kind of noticeable pause, so to make sure I flashed on of the bad firmwares on then flashed the good one and it took it a bit like I expected it to

[frank flax]

cool

[thin vortex]

Did it again at the same place

I’m going to try swapping the axes to see if the issue moves to the x

Well damn maybe not, the plugs on the board are glued in

[frank flax]

https://www.creality.com/pages/download-ender-3-max

stock firmware?

[thin vortex]

Stock firmware wouldn't even get to the main screen

[frank flax]

the 422 ?

[thin vortex]

Got the axes swapped though

Yeah

[frank flax]

you sure thats a 422?

[thin vortex]

Board has 422 printed on it at least

[frank flax]

ok thatll do ti

it

you extracting the files and just putting the v1.01.8.bin file on the sd?

maybe renaming it firmware.bin

[thin vortex]

Yes, hadn’t tried renaming

[frank flax]

see how your experiment goes and i may go that route next

[thin vortex]

Trying to get the glue off the sensor plugs now

[thin vortex]

This has got to be a failing motor
I don’t understand how it can be anything else
Even with the axes swapped it’s still failing to move the y axis after a while

I also checked and before the program stopped, I could freely move the bed by hand

[frank flax]

is it the y?

[thin vortex]

Yeah

[frank flax]

check to make sure the belt is on it proper and the connector is all the way in?

[thin vortex]

I’ll fiddle with the connector, belt is good and tight

[thin vortex]

Same results

[frank flax]

well id say you got a bad stepper

[thin vortex]

Sounds like it

[frank flax]

does it feel pretty hot when using?

[thin vortex]

Hm, I’ll do another print and find out
Right now it’s actually cooler than the x axis, but it had stopped running for a while before I stopped it

I’m also guessing this might be the cause of the entire original problem
Because this started out with the silicone boot falling off the hotend and the machine throwing a thermal runaway. Boot might have fallen off because the y axis stopped running and made a glob in one spot

[frank flax]

sounds like it

thats an odd one... steppers dont typically go

[thin vortex]

The new firmware was just because octoprint stopped running and I grabbed an sd card without checking that it didn’t have a bin file on it

[frank flax]

been there

[thin vortex]

Motor wasn’t hot, and I saw the thing stop in real time, right at about 10 minutes into the program

[frank flax]

interesting

[thin vortex]

Maybe I should give the other firmware a shot just to be sure

Loaded this time, same file I tried in the first place but I'm beyond trying to understand this

[frank flax]

sometimes their file names are so long and the . in them screw it up

[thin vortex]

13 minutes in and it’s still going

[frank flax]

woohoo

[thin vortex]

I’m going to be a little upset if the solution all along was just “Flash the stock firmware again”

[frank flax]

im there with you... we had that solution a few hours back now lol

[thin vortex]

Well I think it’s working
Need to tweak my z-steps a bit it looks like, but overall it seems to be fine now

[frank flax]

https://tenor.com/view/emily-junk-pitchperfect-ride-gif-19928375

[thin vortex]

Thank you tremendously for the help

[frank flax]

absolutely.. thanks for hanging in there...

[trim robin]

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