#gap pattern?

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brittle oak
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Hello, I recently got a CR-10 and I’ve been working on it but of the two prints I’ve attempted, (one from the built in files, one calibration test) there’s a wavy gap pattern on both. Unsure if it’s just really bad underextrusion or something else/multiple issues?

dusky moat
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That looks like a really nasty underextrusion

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Whats your printing temp?
Do you hear clicking sound when it is printing?

brittle oak
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I haven’t heard clicking

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The nozzle temp was 195 I believe and bed was 55

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*hotend

dusky moat
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Try checking the extruder, is it pushing the filament ?

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If you hold the filament where it is inserted to the extruder, you should feel a snug pull

brittle oak
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Yeah it’s pulling

dusky moat
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when you tell the printer to extrude using the console, is filament coming out from the nozzle?

brittle oak
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Yes

dusky moat
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if you could provide a video with it that will help

brittle oak
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Of the filament being extruded?

dusky moat
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yes

brittle oak
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On it

dusky moat
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Tell it to extrude 20mm filament or so

brittle oak
dusky moat
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Doesnt seem like its extruding properly

brittle oak
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Yeah

dusky moat
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Most likely something is wrong with your extruder

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Try removing rhe pneumatic coupling on the extruder, and have it extrude filament

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See if the filament is moving consistently

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Is your extruder griping the filament properly?

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Usually with the stock plastic extruder, a crack can form under the extruder arm. Which cause the extruder to not grip the filament.
You might want to check for that aswell

dusky moat
brittle oak
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Okay, I’ll try/check that

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Is this removed enough? Or would I remove the tubing as well to get it completely off

dusky moat
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Remove everything so you can see it clearly

brittle oak
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Okay

dusky moat
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Is it pushing it consistenly?

brittle oak
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I believe so

dusky moat
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Try using the console and tell it to extrude 100mm of filament, then measure the extruded filament, if it is 100mm then your extruder is fine and you might have a clog in your hotend

brittle oak
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Okay

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It looks like when I ask for 100mm I only get 40 pulled

dusky moat
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ok the problem is in your extruder then

brittle oak
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E in mm3 was on I just realized

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And now 100 is looking a lot more like 100

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Now 100 is closer to 95mm

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Huh

dusky moat
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its not consistent?

brittle oak
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Before I turned it off it wasn’t and now it’s closer to what I asked of it

dusky moat
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ok, try checking for crack under the extruder arm just to be safe, its a very common problem with the stock extruder and most people recommend upgrading to a metal extruder from the get go, so if you have the budget go for it

if there is no crack, you need to check the hotend for clogs

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This is how you check and clean for a clog in the hotend

Fire up the nozzle to 230. Take off the Bowden. Take off the nozzle. Take off the coupler. Take some Bowden tube then feed it through to scrape the inside of the hot end. Put the nozzle on. Then push filament through it and make sure it comes out straight. Then put it back together. Make sure the bowden is cut straight and clean too

brittle oak
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I don’t see any cracks but Yeah I’m definitely going to get that now just to avoid that problem in the future. Now to check for clogs, thanks!

dusky moat
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while you are at it, get the blue capricorn tubing as well

brittle oak
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K

brittle oak
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Thanks for the tips! The issue doesn’t seem to be entirely resolved but definitely improved

rigid tide
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Often times, it can look like that if you are printing too fast(as another example of under extrusion) where the hotend can't melt the plastic fast enough

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Tested a neptune 3 and somehow accidentally set the speed to 300-400 mm a second. That printer was FLYING

brittle oak
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I think my speed was the default but I’ll double check and if it is I’ll try printing slower than advised. Or maybe increasing hotend temp as well

rigid tide
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from what i saw on the nozzle extrusin, there could be some stuff in the nozzle. have you tried printing at hotter temps? or at least testing the flow at hotter temps?

brittle oak
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The benchy was at a hotter temp but still the lower range of what’s recommended for the filament

rigid tide
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my ender 2 prints consistently at 215

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but my ender 5 prints at 195

brittle oak
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215 is what I printed the benchy on

rigid tide
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still working out clogging kinks on that one though

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do you have any cleaning needles?

brittle oak
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Yes

rigid tide
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heat it up and push the needle through a bit.