Get something it can’t react with
#How to defeat Darkstalker without animus magic?
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"While glass provides excellent resistance to most acids, there are three types which cause significant damage – hydrofluoric acid, phosphoric acid, and phosphorus acids. When glass is attacked by these acids, especially when they are concentrated solutions, corrosion can occur quickly."
searched from google
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None of those acids are what we are talking about tho
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so then what are we talking about?
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We are talking specifically about sulphuric acid
Which has a very specific chemical composition
timber ice
right
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It’s either that or hydrochloric acid
Neither of those, as far as I know, can dissolve glass
timber ice
but i dont think dragons would be able to build a glass dome that big, first of all
second, he lives forever, you would have to constantly make glass
velvet yacht
but i dont think dragons would be able to build a glass dome that big, first of ...
They have time. Keep him sedated for like 3 years while it’s built
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second, he lives forever, you would have to constantly make glass
You can just replace it periodically
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yeah but wouldnt he just see that?
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They have time. Keep him sedated for like 3 years while it’s built
he'd like make a spell or smth
so he can prevent it
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But then again, he and Clearsight both describe him as lazy as heck when it comes to future sight
He can be fooled
He was fooled several times
Specially when his guard is down
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i vote we go back in time and make arctic take daddy and me classes
yeah, but he learned
hes way more wary now
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yeah, but he learned
He still was fooled by both Turtle, Moon and Kinkajou
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he even made a spell so that whenever someone thinks of hurting him, he'll get a notice
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So he didn’t learn that much
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he even made a spell so that whenever someone thinks of hurting him, he'll get a...
We aren’t hurting him
We are doping him
Later we decide to hurt him
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no, but were causing him extreme pain for a long time
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But first and foremost we are just doping him
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i think he would have quite a few visions about it
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But first and foremost we are just doping him
doping is still harm
just like steroids hurt the body
when theyre supposed to be helping them
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still the acid part
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Only if you believe it is
His thoughts would only detect you if you think about it
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his gift is too strong not to send him a few visions
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still the acid part
Which is again, a post dope thought
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because its so major
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Which is again, a post dope thought
no, it isnt
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no, it isnt
I said specifically “after we managed to dope him, then we can figure out solutions”
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if some dragon uses it to reassure themself in his prescence, he'll notice
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If you only think short therm about knocking him out
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I said specifically “after we managed to dope him, then we can figure out soluti...
i dont think the dope will last that long
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Then after he’s knocked out you make that plan
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i dont think the dope will last that long
That’s why you keep dosing him
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If you only think short therm about knocking him out
hell still know
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hell still know
Why? It isn’t harm
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He didn’t knew about the strawberry and that is more harmful to him
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Why? It isn’t harm
mindreading
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mindreading
Use the skyfire
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He didn’t knew about the strawberry and that is more harmful to him
yeah, because kinkajou had that stick
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yeah, because kinkajou had that stick
She had?
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Use the skyfire
theres only so much skyfire in the world
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If I remember correctly she didn’t, she just had the skyfire
Oh right; I remembered, he was enchanted to specifically never remember kinkajou
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no, kinkajou took it from ananamoe
She didn’t had the stick
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and animus magic dont work no more
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But Foeslayer never had that protection
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so...
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And they still managed to fool him
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But Foeslayer never had that protection
right, she didn't know about the plan until after, i think
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right, she didn't know about the plan until after, i think
It was her idea wasn’t it?
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Get something it can’t react with
Darkstalker ain't made of teflon
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i think they had the inkling of the idea before foeslayer
cuz kinkajou had to learn how to write
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no, kinkajou's
She literally couldn’t write and had Foeslayer help her
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no, moon helped
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no, moon helped
Moon didn’t knew
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Foeslayer helped
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besides foeslayer had only been released for like 2 days before this
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It was only Foeslayer and Kinkajou who knew ta the time
When they were making the whole spell
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wait! yeah! mb
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The whole point is: he can be fooled
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but didnt she say that she knew how to keep her mind safe?
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He was fooled multiple times even after he made the spell to detect thoughts against him
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Ask him to learn ethics
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but didnt she say that she knew how to keep her mind safe?
Not from the magic
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so she did have protection
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Only from his mind reading
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yeah, but her mind was still safe
You can solve that with skyfire
“There’s only so much in the world” then get your hands on some of it
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You can solve that with skyfire
like i said, theres not that much skyfire
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Ask an animus for the comet
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like i said, theres not that much skyfire
The whole point of this scenario is solving the problem assuming you have the same tools
But no magic
Skyfire is a tool that’s not magic
And the jade group had access to it
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um...
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So we, in this scenario, have access to it
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i still dont think this idea is plausible
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If Darkstalker can't use magic himself we're similarly fucked so
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i still dont think this idea is plausible
Why? He can’t detect it and can be fooled by it
It’s not damaging him
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If Darkstalker can't use magic himself we're similarly fucked so
wait! just have jerboa make the spell earlier
then he cant use his magic at all
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wait! just have jerboa make the spell earlier
The whole point is that we can’t use animus magic
That’s magic
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wait! just have jerboa make the spell earlier
I'm assuming the rules just mean only he can cast spells
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Yeah
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Tricking him into consciously casting a spell, not the scroll trick
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honestly, the acid pit is where we started
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It’s why the doping solution is arguably one of the few that can work. Is that or actually talking him down
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and im saying it aint gonna work
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and im saying it aint gonna work
But you don’t say why
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because of the environmental impacts!
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Okay so, make another universe rip open a wormhole and nuke him
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because of the environmental impacts!
The doping?!?!?
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The doping?!?!?
Acid pit
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Okay so, make another universe rip open a wormhole and nuke him
how would you do that without magic?
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how would you do that without magic?
Quantum mechanics
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What’s the environmental impacts of taking all the frog venom from the darts?
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I meant the ACID
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What’s the environmental impacts of taking all the frog venom from the darts?
youll kill all the frogs!
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youll kill all the frogs!
The venom is already harvested, it’s literally in storage being used as ammunition for blow guns. Just take the already harvested darts
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Oh, that’s after you have him doped and want a permanent solution
These dergs don't have access to teflon
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If you need more, you can harvest it without killing the frogs
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These dergs don't have access to teflon
They have access to glass
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They have access to glass
True. Assuming it's not tempered atleast
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The venom is already harvested, it’s literally in storage being used as ammuniti...
yeah and he'll recover in less than an hour
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yeah and he'll recover in less than an hour
That’s why you keep doping
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yeah, and thats gonna take a lot of darts
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If you keep a constant stream you will manage to keep him down
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Why don't you just battlewinner him
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yeah, and thats gonna take a lot of darts
If a single dart is enough to knock out a single dragon. And he is, let’s say, at most, ten times bigger than a normal dragon. You would need just 10 darts
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Dope him, pry open his mouth, and battlewinner him
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If a single dart is enough to knock out a single dragon. And he is, let’s say, a...
27*
Square cube law
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And we know that works for like a full day
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Square cube law
Very well
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Dope him, pry open his mouth, and battlewinner him
he'll heal really soon
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27
I assumed the 10 was after the square cube law
But let’s say he’s 27 times bigger then
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And we know that works for like a full day
yeah, but on him, it would take 2-3 hours
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I assumed the 10 was after the square cube law
He's triple a grown dragon so 3 cubed
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his size+magic
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his size+magic
He never made himself immune to poisons
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yeah, but on him, it would take 2-3 hours
All we need is 15 minutes, I doubt this is true though
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he did
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yeah, but on him, it would take 2-3 hours
It’s why the plan was to do it with wine
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venom is poison
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You just first get him drunk
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and kinkajou didnt work
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You were saying he probably did
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he did
He did in fact not, only after Kinkajou assaulted him, if we just stop that then he isn’t
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and kinkajou didnt work
It did he regenerated
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It did he regenerated
yeah, so hell keep regenerating
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I assume this scenario is starting at the very end of book 8
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You just first get him drunk
he doesnt strike me as the drink till im drunk type
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yeah, so hell keep regenerating
Regeneration doesn't work like that?
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Regeneration doesn't work like that?
really? then why did he grow an eye back immediately
velvet yacht
really? then why did he grow an eye back immediately
He made a spell?
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really? then why did he grow an eye back immediately
He cast a spell
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That’s why
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he doesnt strike me as the drink till im drunk type
But just getting him to be at a party, drink a single dose of the doped wine, and stay there, if he starts to feel dizzy he probably won’t suspect a lot
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But just getting him to be at a party, drink a single dose of the doped wine, an...
And then battlewinner him
When he passes out
So simple icicle could do it successfully
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"Enchant Darkstalker's scales to be invulnerable to harm of any sort, to heal instantly if injured, and to shield him indestructibly from any threat of death."
this is his actual spell
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But just getting him to be at a party, drink a single dose of the doped wine, an...
Best part is he can't read your mind
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so he enchanted himself to heal
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"Enchant Darkstalker's scales to be invulnerable to harm of any sort, to heal in...
His scales regenerate, not everything else
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yes but think about what albatross said to fathom
the magic can work in unexpected way
i think that as long as the meaning was there
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the magic can work in unexpected way
This is just saying it could fail not that it will
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theres a chance that it made everything on him heal
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theres a chance that it made everything on him heal
It didnt
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This is just saying it could fail not that it will
no, i think its the thought that counts, not the actual words
just like when arctic wanted to get away
he said "make them stop"
and it killed the dragons
bc his thoughts were so intense
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no, i think its the thought that counts, not the actual words
Then why did it take a spell for his eye to heal
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darkstalker similarly could have thought that way
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Then why did it take a spell for his eye to heal
it didnt
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it didnt
Yes it did?
It's shown that it doesn't start healing till he casts the spell
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really?
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Yup
timber ice
wheres the quote?
timber island
Read the chapter. You're making the unusual claim
Or the wiki
Or ask literally anyone
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lets agree to disagree
This is objective?
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excuse me?
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well i believe that what i said is true
Fine let me pull up the pdf
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so he enchanted himself to heal
His scales, not his liver
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"Jets of black venom shot from her fangs and landed. Splat sizzle sssss across Darkstalker's face and in one of his eyes. Darkstalker roared and threw her off. Kinkajou landed on the floor and skidded halfway across the room. 'OW MOONFIRE AND STAR VOMIT' Darkstalker shouted clutching his face. "HEAL BY ALL THE SNAKES!" He lifted his talons away and Turtle saw that his scales were undamaged but there was a black hole where his eyeball had been. A moment later it filmed over and a new eye started to grow in the spot." There I hand typed it
@timber ice
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the magic can work in unexpected way
It almost always works in literal interpretations tho
“Make my scales invulnerable” and then his eye melts because his eye isn’t made of scales
Man; if only we could use previously enchanted stuff, the Pyrite idea would had been hilarious
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“Make my scales invulnerable” and then his eye melts because his eye isn’t made ...
Like the text I gave shows his eye was damaged but his scales weren't. For this to occur you must be wrong
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Like the text I gave shows his eye was damaged but his scales weren't. For this ...
Why am I wrong if the text proves me right?
Darkstalker’s scales are the only thing invulnerable
His eye and internal organs are vulnerable
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Why am I wrong if the text proves me right?
I'm cooberating you
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Why did you say I’m wrong?
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You in that refers to blujay
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Where'd they go?
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Probably are busy irl
I’m procrastinating homework as we speak lol
Should be making a giant flowchart of the story of my game
Not discussing if we can beat evil dragon using wine and drugs
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If we say your correct, it does say;
"Enchant Darkstalker's scales to be invulnerable to harm of any sort, to heal instantly if injured, and to shield him indestructibly from any threat of death."
that means even if we had the acid pit, he would still be unharmed
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did you read the text evidence before restating your point?
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his scales would regenerate before any damage could be done
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we aren't... harming his scales?
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right
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Acid would burn through his orrifaces.
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most likely
if he did die it would be braindeath though
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right
id like to retract my earlier statement
it seems i read the passage differently
brb
i have an idea
but-dinner first
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braindeath is a wierd thing
Cast in modern civilization immortality would most likely protect against it but he doesn't have modern tech
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braindeath is a wierd thing
Cast in modern civilization immortality would most l...
he's shielded from any type of death tho
immortality grants him that
honestly
i think the old adage "an ounce of prevention equals a pound of cure" could be applied here
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Just stop his parents from meeting, or make foeslayer more involved, or make arctic more caring
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||In a sense, if the strawberry can overwrite his counciousness, you can argue it's not protected ||
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Just stop his parents from meeting, or make foeslayer more involved, or make arc...
but my suggestion here isn't the acid here
- give him wine and spike it with sleeping dart stuff
- breath ice down his throat when he gets knocked out
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technically braindeath isn't death
Tbf it’s less like brain death and more like being knocked out because your brain physically can’t work
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but my suggestion here isn't the acid here
- give him wine and spike it with sle...
Would the ice thing work? We never knew exactly how that worked or why
Heck he may be immune because he’s technically an IceWing
Man that scene would be so funny
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Heck he may be immune because he’s technically an IceWing
I'm pretty sure icewings can still be hurt by their own breath but at the same time, that doesn't apply to their throats
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You have him knocked out, strapped to the ground and as soon as he is waking up Winter is hurrying breathing ice into his throat, he starts screaming with pain as his brain freezes, then nothing happens and we realize he is an IceWing
He breaks out and makes a spell to idk burn winter in hell or something
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his mommy was a icewing and he's not 'perfect' like whiteout
he's likely vulnerable to ice even if too a lessened degree'
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Yeah, but idk if you could like freeze is brain over
Tbf it’s still not a bad idea
Like you could genuinely make it work
Even if he’s immune to the BattleWinner ice disease
You can still like freeze over his brain and keep him frozen
Just store him in some ice cave in the Ice kingdom
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and we don't even know where the icebreath comes from
It's possible his upper throat could be immune to it but maybe not his everything
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It would be like those movies with dinosaurs trapped in ice
And as long as he doesn’t melt he’s completely defeated
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just drop him in the sea
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oh yeah
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That’s why i said an ice cave
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like the convenient one where his mother was trapped in?
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Caves tend to stay completely isolated from environmental changes
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like the convenient one where his mother was trapped in?
That would be so fucking ironic
The biggest problem would be actually getting him there
Since he’s like
Huge
But as long as he’s in the ice kingdom you can keep him frozen while they make a prison that works forever
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and I strongly doubt he'd go to an icewing party unless it involved killing them all
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I would say with enough dedication they could tie him up and bring him there while he’s doped
Good thing about big animals: it may be harder to dope them but they also usually take longer to wake up
He would be so confused lmao. Imagine being at a party, drinking wine, getting a bit drunk, fall asleep
Wake up 20000 years later
Global warming finally unfroze you
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Global warming finally unfroze you
dergs are already extinct so he has no idea what to do
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Good thing about big animals: it may be harder to dope them but they also usuall...
I mean just get 27 of your closest mudwing friends to carry him
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I think this is the actual most solid plan yet
He shouldn’t be able to detect it because you aren’t damaging him
He is totally disabled and defeated
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and he can't mindread it because the person spiking him may not even be in the same room
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And no magic was involved of any kind
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and he can't mindread it because the person spiking him may not even be in the s...
Yeah
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if he does collapse he'll assume it's just strong wine or his resistance is low
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if he does collapse he'll assume it's just strong wine or his resistance is low
What 2000 years sober does to a mofo
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drink wine kids
or you'll be sealed in an icecave until the earth literally melts
velvet yacht
Welp, time to stop following this thread
timber island
Welp, time to stop following this thread
tell the mods we found a solution
ingredients:
1x Darkstalker
???x icewings
1x party
1x wine bottle
27x Rainwing sleep darts
27x Mudwings
1x Icecave
pallid rivet
nah tis is so fak
🤫
"powerful" people in this community ships winterjou
like well-known
also winterjou is cute, winter needs smbody mentally stable for 'im. and enthusaistic too
anyways
pallid rivet
ingredients:
1x Darkstalker
???x icewings
1x party
1x wine bottle
27x Rainwing s...
so real
hm
enchant his bone earring on his ear to disappear, make one of qiblis earring looks like it, put it back on, kill 'im 'en.
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no animus magic
pallid rivet
oh yh
austere saffron
deafeat darkstalker by leaving him alone and getting moon to as well so he gets sad
shut quiver
What if that only causes his anger to boil. One of many reasons that he held back was so that he'd still have friends.
timber island
give him lots of hugs and love
primal crag
It's telling that even after all this time the only real winning way to defeat him is literally just 'therapy'
timber island
you either have 'secret mobilization of the icewing army' or therapy
timber island
It's telling that even after all this time the only real winning way to defeat h...
we did have the battlewinner strat a while back
nocturne drum
It's telling that even after all this time the only real winning way to defeat h...
Which is ... actually more in line with a kids series yeah?
And would have been a better ending than
yknow.
shut quiver
I still like the idea of tickling Darkstalker for the rest of eternity so he can't think or cast spells.
nocturne drum
PieceOfShitter
timber island
I still like the idea of tickling Darkstalker for the rest of eternity so he can...
somehow this is even more in character for kinkajou
DAMN it's been 24 days since we 'found' a solution
grim cradle
Currently rereading 10, so maybe I’ll find some other loophole
nocturne drum
It's telling that even after all this time the only real winning way to defeat h...
I wish Jerboa III had paniced in arc 2 and cast her giant 'fuck all animus' spell
timber island
Hug him and give him belly rubs and chin scritches
He's defeated and you get a new kitty
grim cradle
Hug him and give him belly rubs and chin scritches
Unfortunately I don’t think scritches would work
Because, y’know, impenetrable scales
timber island
Unfortunately I don’t think scritches would work
have we tried
nocturne drum
Unfortunately I don’t think scritches would work
Rubs would still be felt nwn
grim cradle
Yeah that’s true
timber island
Rubs would still be felt nwn
Hug the giant ancient murder lizard
shut quiver
I'm gonna put that into google and see what happens.
I got information on an extinct lizard called megalania.
timber island
https://tenor.com/view/cat-lizard-kitty-clingy-animal-friendship-gif-17857912
is this a result
shut quiver
No. That came up when I put Hug the lizard into the GIF search.
solid wedge
wraith cliff
What if they filled his mouth with Smokeberries?
Can't cause world domination if the evil wizard is high as hell
shut quiver
I always forget about smokeberries.
timber island
dragon lsd
timber island
explain
willow zinc
Can't cause world domination if the evil wizard is high as hell
Hahaha
That might work ig
But still wouldnt kill him
timber island
But still wouldnt kill him
To be fair, the closest thing to a finalized solution wouldn't kill him either
willow zinc
Yeah
Like he is immortal
I wish we got the wording for his immortality spell
So i could find loopholes ;/
shut quiver
I think the point of us not getting the wording is so that Tui can interpret it however she likes.
spring frost
Put clearsight in front of him and when he's not looking stab him to death
timber island
Knifes don't work and we have no method of acquiring a clearsight
silent geode
Stab him with a spear with Rainwing venom
timber island
his scales are invulnerable
and he's immortal
the only viable strategies have to be long lasting and not rely on killing him (Although this doesn't mean normally fatal options can't be considered)
shut quiver
Tickle Darkstalker so hard he can't think. Then, get some other dragons to take shifts tickling him for the rest of eternity.
timber island
valid, high energy
nocturne drum
Tickle Darkstalker so hard he can't think. Then, get some other dragons to take ...
tickle therapy
ngl, therapy is the only solution here X3
grim cradle
- Therapy
- Time travel
That’s what we got
shut quiver
We drop him into a volcano. He'll be in so much pain he can't think.
nocturne drum
bonks
Bad. Therapy
shut quiver
I'm a licensed therapist. This works, I promise. /j
timber island
*bonks*
Bad. Therapy
give him a hug
and if he isn't instantly turned good
hug him again
shut quiver
Volcano therapy is still better.
timber island
no it's not
timber island
What if we just asked him to stop being careful for a bit. Then he'd noclip into the Backrooms. And if he somehow did escape it would be into New York State in our world which is a win win for all parties involved except for the people in the blast radius of the nuke they drop on him
shut quiver
grim cradle
https://tenor.com/view/sonic-movie2-knuckles-i-understand-nothing-of-what-you-ju...
Same
dusky vigil
Show him his mom
placid crystal
We drop him into a volcano. He'll be in so much pain he can't think.
invincible scales 🗿
shut quiver
He can still get hurt as shown by the fact that Kinkajou was able to melt his scales.
timber island
He can still get hurt as shown by the fact that Kinkajou was able to melt his sc...
His eye
nocturne drum
He can still get hurt as shown by the fact that Kinkajou was able to melt his sc...
There's a better way to hurt him
"Your mother has given up on you"
timber island
There's a better way to hurt him
"Your mother has given up on you"
It's even true
timber island
I'd rather have arctic as a parent than Foeslayer
willow zinc
There's a better way to hurt him
"Your mother has given up on you"
Rebuttal: Just tell him the crushing blow ‘ur adopted’
Although will that rlly hurt him? Coz he hates arctic anyway
willow zinc
I'd rather have arctic as a parent than Foeslayer
Coz magic dad 
Infinite robux
The pleasure
primal crag
Rebuttal: Just tell him the crushing blow ‘ur adopted’
man he probably wishes he was adopted 💀
timber island
I'd adopt him
shut quiver
As a baby, Darkstalker would have been the size of a full grown adult.
wraith cliff
Doubt
Baby dragons are quite smaller than scavengers, enough to be carried in arms without issue
shut quiver
You're right. I forgot about Dragonslayer.
wraith cliff
And book 15
dusky vigil
Strawberry
shut quiver
🍓
strong rain
Given what we're shown by Kinkajou melting his eyeball, only his scales are invulnerable
So, put him under anesthesia, melt or remove his eye, and mess with his brain in some form
In theory, if you manage to hit the right pitch, you could cause a significant brain hemorrhage
Or deliver a powerful enough shock to stop his heart, because once again, only his scales are invulnerable, and immortality is not the same as being unable to be killed
timber island
Or deliver a powerful enough shock to stop his heart, because once again, only h...
isn't that literally what immortality means?
strong rain
Or you could just make him see a therapist every 3 days, and work through his problems
strong rain
isn't that literally what immortality means?
Immortality is being unable to die naturally
It was rumored that Nicolas Flamel was immortal, but he could still very much die
timber island
Immortality is being unable to die naturally
there are a variety of different meanings of immortality
I'm assuming that this form is in the true immortality sense
timber island
in a life or death fight semantics are... unlikely to be useful
timber island
the meaning of immortality here is subjective and until it can be proven false, it is to be assumed true
strong rain
Based on the fact that he made himself invulnerable to other animus magic, i believ he can still die
timber island
you don't plan for the least dangerous possibility if a more severe one of the same type
timber island
Based on the fact that he made himself invulnerable to other animus magic, i bel...
Also he's almost certainly not biologically immortal because he survived starvation and likely severe cancer
strong rain
Either way, most of what i said can still work to disable him
Anesthesia, heart attack, and brain damage would all still affect him
nocturne drum
How about
a hug
strong rain
Well, i did say therapy
timber island
Anesthesia, heart attack, and brain damage would all still affect him
I'd argue having 90% of your body be tumors would also do somestuff
strong rain
Probably, but he did make himself superpowered
So, the affect it had on him was probably way lessened
timber island
I find it easier to believe the canon immortality spell covered that instead of an unknown spell
also Fathom probably would have noticed a superpower spell
strong rain
Of course, we could always use your powerful spoon, Alder
strong rain
also Fathom probably would have noticed a superpower spell
He was open abou being immortal
timber island
Of course, we could always use your powerful spoon, Alder
he has the spoon
timber island
He was open abou being immortal
used the wrong word again
timber island
nah it's my fault
strong rain
We steal the spoon without him noticing?
timber island
We steal the spoon without him noticing?
true...
strong rain
I mean, he doesn't wear clothes, so he can't hide it on himself
timber island
I mean, he doesn't wear clothes, so he can't hide it on himself
he probably can buy a bag
strong rain
All his money is 2000+ years old
timber island
he probably can steal a bag
brave spire
jus knok out and bury then colapse moantain on hiw
then...
he cant get out
cus no aminus
strong rain
jus knok out and bury then colapse moantain on hiw
We already tried that
vapid spruce
Give Darkstalker a big hug and learn the dragon language so he can get scavenger therapy
brave spire
try again
brave spire
Give Darkstalker a big hug and learn the dragon language so he can get scavenger...
he will eat u
timber island
he will eat u
He seemingly is pro-scavenger rights based on the little we know
primal crag
He seemingly is pro-scavenger rights based on the little we know
There was that group of scavengers they freed from the school early on in the plot as a 'mischevious prank' yeah
timber island
There *was* that group of scavengers they freed from the school early on in the ...
I'm pretty sure that was because listener thought they were sapient
shut quiver
I believe Darkstalker wasn't involved in that. It was Clearsight and Listener.
timber island
I believe Darkstalker wasn't involved in that. It was Clearsight and Listener.
he was aware of it and apparently made several comments
shut quiver
I forgot that. I really need to reread Darkstalker.
pine phoenix
I had a guy create me a Minecraft darkstalker origin. If you don’t know what the origins mod is it’s basically a super power mod. For example if you choose the arachnid origin you can climb walls and walk through cobwebs. The enderian origin makes water damage you but you have silk touch hands, longer reach, and can throw an enderpearl every few seconds due to cooldown.
shut quiver
What would a darkstalker origin look like?
timber island
kitty
strong rain
What would a darkstalker origin look like?
Infinite power, strength 255, huge player, etc.
shut quiver
I feel like the important part is creative mode.
strong rain
True...
timber island
I feel like the important part is creative mode.
Admin commands
dusty moth
Depends, what's the tech level?
nocturne drum
None
dusty moth
His scales are what she immortal right? Enough energy to capture a small town in a coherent beam has got to do something
nocturne drum
Nah he's immortal
shut quiver
The non-scale parts of his body can be temporarily damaged, but they grow back quickly. He cannot be killed.
dusty moth
New plan
Launch into interstellar space
He's gonna have fun getting back after reaching galactic escape velocity
nocturne drum
He could just bring himself back with animus try again X3
dusty moth
Plan c
They can be damages temporarily right?
Just keep dropping rocks until he stops regrowing
shut quiver
I like the idea of dropping him into a pit of lava. His brain will be destroyed faster than it can regrow. That way, he can't cast spells.
timber island
you do realize that neither future tech nor animus magic is allowed?
timber island
we kinda already have a method?
and it only needs 54 dragons
multiple tons of alchohol
a significant portion of the rain kingdom's sleep darts
and a convenient ice cave
dusty moth
multiple tons of alchohol
Add some THC, because funny
nocturne drum
And potentially a therapist
umbral nexus
Considering if we have all previous animus magic like turtles bowl, can we just duplicate A LOT OF TURTLE STICKS
And hand them out to every dragon
Wait a second, what happens if darkstaklker holds turtles stick?
Does he get dementia?
bright dove
Does he get dementia?
Spectator mode activates
Book 14
||On the jerboa scroll just write "has the ability to turn darkstalker into a 1 year old dragonet named peacemaker and no memories when she touches him"||
nocturne drum
Book 14
||On the jerboa scroll just write "has the ability to turn darkstalker i...
No animus allowed
umbral nexus
Book 14
||On the jerboa scroll just write "has the ability to turn darkstalker i...
You mean darkstalker's scroll?
bright dove
You mean darkstalker's scroll?
No I mean the ||Jerboa scroll||
timber island
No I mean the ||Jerboa scroll||
That one ||only answers questions||
umbral nexus
That one ||only answers questions||
Yeah
umbral nexus
No the first one
||Jerboa didn't make any scrolls only boa did||
timber island
That ||Jerboa the first made||
That would be extremely complicated and convoluted
Although it would work because somebody forgot to protect themselves from the consequence of spells
bright dove
Yes, she used it to change ||Boa's personality and such before resets, and when Boa found out she confronted her mother then gave hersel animus magic||
umbral nexus
Yes, she used it to change ||Boa's personality and such before resets, and when ...
Ohhh, now I remember, I forgot about that, she made it when she got tired of keeping track
How do you use /spoiler without blacking out the whole sentence
timber island
But it does violate the spirit of the question and is potentially not our best option via a multitude of regret ion theories
bright dove
How do you use /spoiler without blacking out the whole sentence
|| as brackets
timber island
How do you use /spoiler without blacking out the whole sentence
Two ||
umbral nexus
|| word|| ohh
timber island
Put him in a dress 😈
umbral nexus
just give him turtles stick
shut quiver
I think preexisting spells count as animus magic.
nocturne drum
Yep
willow zinc
just give him turtles stick
Wait what was the exact wording for that spell again
Like did it say ‘protect the wearer’ or just ‘protect me’
Wait no it worked on anemone so it should work on anyone
Yeah lol then he would be erased from his own mind… i wonder how that would work out…
umbral nexus
Wait what was the exact wording for that spell again
The excact wording for the spell is: || As long as this stick is
near me or touching me, I enchant it to hide my entire existence from Darkstalker. That means he cannot see me or hear me; he cannot remember that he’s ever heard of me; he cannot hear about me in other people’s minds or conversations; and he cannot see me anywhere in his futures. I enchant this stick to completely erase the dragon holding it from Darkstalker’s awareness. ||
And this affects the user who is holding it, not just turtle btw
willow zinc
And this affects the user who is holding it, not just turtle btw
Yeah
willow zinc
The excact wording for the spell is: || As long as this stick is
near me or touc...
So it would basically hide darkstalker from himself and cause some painful paradox lol
umbral nexus
yeah
nocturne drum
Except the stick counts as animus so ... that's not really allowed?
There are plenty of animus ways of dealing with him
willow zinc
Except the stick counts as animus so ... that's not really allowed?
There are pl...
Yeah well ofc, but still an interesting thing to think abt
primal crag
The thing is, the stick's effects do affect Darkstalker
we see it actually work in hiding Turtle from them
so either it's found a loophole or Darkstalker's anti-animus countermeasures are less ironclad than thought
nocturne drum
so either it's found a loophole or Darkstalker's anti-animus countermeasures are...
See, I think it wouldn't work if darkstalker held it
It works for others because ... the enchantment attaches to them I guess?
So ... it actually wouldn't work on darkstalker if he held it
I think.
Tbh I think the stick working on darkstalker is just ... a gaping plot hole
timber island
so either it's found a loophole or Darkstalker's anti-animus countermeasures are...
It's basically just english
Wouldn't work on DS:
I enchant darkstalker
I enchant this knife to kill Darkstalker in one stab
Would work:
I enchant this room to be inaccessible to Darkstalker
I enchant this knife to fly at Darkstalker
The first two are blocked because they are direct and indirect things that apply an effect to Darkstalker
The two that work, one has an effect placed on itself that Is related to Darkstalker but changes nothing about him and the other is just an action spell
Darkstalker is either protected from direct and indirect animus spells or the effects of animus spells
plucky mountain
Find something that darkstalker was not aware of during his time, such as rainwing acid or something of the sort, collect a great amount of it, and walk in all casual and such, than BAM
shut quiver
The RainWing empire existed during his time. He might be more aware of their venom than modern dragons.
bright dove
The thing is, the stick's effects *do* affect Darkstalker
It effects the wearer not ds like if you use the twice as much bowl to make more food ds would still be able to eat it
nocturne drum
That's ... not the same thing
nocturne drum
It effects the wearer not ds like if you use the twice as much bowl to make more...
If the holder IS DarkStalker, then it would need to affect him
But it couldn't
bright dove
If the holder IS DarkStalker, then it *would* need to affect him
But it couldn't
I was just explaining how if works against him, for it to work they'd need to get the bone earing
umbral nexus
The RainWing empire existed during his time. He might be more aware of their ven...
He is, back in his time rainwings were deadly assassins and merchants
nocturne drum
I was just explaining how if works against him, for it to work they'd need to ge...
Except that wouldn't work either because that would also nullify his immortality spell and he'd instantly poof into dust
bright dove
Except that wouldn't work either because that would also nullify his immortality...
No, the one he used to make himself immune to any/all enchantments by other animi
Turtle noted it being the first and only piece of jewelry he put on before entering JMA
shut quiver
I think the earring just made people like him more. It is never directly stated what he enchanted to become immune to animus magic.
nocturne drum
Himself in all likelihood
Because Tui said if one of the anti-darkstalker earrings ever touched peacemaker
He'd revert and immediately turn to dust
willow zinc
Darkstalker is either protected from direct and indirect animus spells or the ef...
Ahh yeah, but still, hes got diamon scales
But gosh this was just meant to be a fun discussion why does my brain hurt so muchh TwT
shut quiver
All the best discussions make your brain hurt.
nocturne drum
and/or your heart
polar dust
you've basically got a trick him or take advantage of his mental state to even have a sliver of a chance against darkstalker with or without Animus
willow zinc
you've basically got a trick him or take advantage of his mental state to even h...
‘knowledge is the most powerful weapon’
shut quiver
No. Weapons are the most powerful weapons.
timber island
No. Weapons are the most powerful weapons.
Do you know how to survive being stabbed 500 times
solid latch
Or.... Kinkajou could have make the strawberry to take Darkstalker powers away. Same thing with Fathom, he could have make the bracelet to take Darkstalker powers away.
polar dust
darkstalker probably gets murked by an icewing or literally anybody who slightly dislikes him unless jade mountain protects him
solid latch
Darkstalker can stay away from the ice tribe then, I think.
I understand why Darkstalker hate the icewing tribe... but he could do something else when he was young at that time.
polar dust
darkstalker would probably have to live his life in exile if he even chooses to continue living without his powers
like I'm willing to bet snowfall and all the other icewing nobles would certainly pay a lot for his head so any population centers aren't really an option anymore
solid latch
Wait.. if I remember right.... Foeslayer did go to the sandwing tribe at that time in 3,000. Right ?
polar dust
she fought in their territory yeah
I don't think the nightwings ever actually occupied territory there though
they were on the defensive for most the war
solid latch
....
Hmm...
3,000 ?
I think there might be more of what happen back then. There a 50/50 chance that the future book from act 4 or 5 might answer some unmetioned question. I think....
nocturne drum
like I'm willing to bet snowfall and all the other icewing nobles would certainl...
Pantala!
polar dust
it's mentioned that dragons of all colors were arriving everyday in the epilauge right?
but it's definitely a better option than pyyrhia
solid latch
But it is possible that there might be something more then pyyrhia at that time, something we not awere of ?
polar dust
darkstalker isn't making it too it if there is
pantala was a flight impossible for even skywings
darkstalkers reflexes and muscle memory have been dulled by 2000 years and he was never a very physical dragon in the first place
He was good at catching hawks though, two of them I think, but uh, my memory of the book isn't that great
happy birthday btw
solid latch
No I mean it is possible that there might be something more of what happen in 3,000. That we not awere of.
solid latch
happy birthday btw
Thank you
solid latch
happy birthday btw
I did enjoy my birthday today. It was awesome.
twin dock
If you're scared of darkstalker, fly to Pantala. He doesn't believe another continent exits
solid latch
I not scared of Darkstalker.
pseudo reef
dire rune
He said "make my scales as strong as diamonds. Make my bones unbreakable." So if you get something sharp enough to cut through diamonds than that should work right?
solid latch
But I wonder... If Darkstalker has a little brother which a nice icewing, how would Arctic and Darkstalker react.
shut quiver
He said "make my scales as strong as diamonds. Make my bones unbreakable." So if...
That is the spell Turtle cast on himself. That was in reference to Darkstalker's spell, which has an unknown phrasing.
dire rune
That is the spell Turtle cast on himself. That was in reference to Darkstalker's...
Lmao I'm a dumbass my bad
willow zinc
He said "make my scales as strong as diamonds. Make my bones unbreakable." So if...
Ah so fun fact, diamonds are tough, not strong
So they can resist lots of friction, but will shatter easily if an arrow lands just right
Game theory did a theory on this i believe
willow zinc
But I wonder... If Darkstalker has a little brother which a nice icewing, how wo...
Technically whiteout is part icewing more than darkstinkle
willow zinc
So they can resist lots of friction, but will shatter easily if an arrow lands j...
So his spell basically did nothing lol
But ig its all about what they think itll do, if he thinks itll make his scales unbreakable, then it will
dire rune
Ah so fun fact, diamonds are tough, not strong
Every day you learn something new
willow zinc
Yeah lol
I learnt so much stuff from this server
Like what a Nictating membrane is (or however u spell it)
dire rune
Like what a Nictating membrane is (or however u spell it)
What is that?
willow zinc
Like a third eyelid which covers animal’s eyes when they swim or fly
Helps protect the eye, but it’s transparent
Search it up for images s rlly cool
dire rune
Ohh like the ones some birds have?
The transparent eye lid
I've seen that before on ddoi
willow zinc
Yeah yeah, someone mentioned it up and taught me when we were discussing how rainwing eyes go invisible as well
dire rune
Wait I never thought of how the claws horns and eyes go invisible
I know scales change but those don't have scales
willow zinc
Wait I never thought of how the claws horns and eyes go invisible
Yeah we concluded that the nictating membrane somehow goes invisible, and like the claws have a membrane thing too which slides out to cover it ig lol
dire rune
Yeah we concluded that the nictating membrane somehow goes invisible, and like t...
I'd love for there to be a book or whatever to have a bunch of answers to the science of fantasy worlds
I'm legit cricket right now
willow zinc
I'd love for there to be a book or whatever to have a bunch of answers to the sc...
Yeah! Man coz i would totally read it
Maybe that’s the fourth channel for the Theory
Book Theory or smt
Like it would be so cool for someone to go through fantasy world and solve em w science
dire rune
And the best part of science in fantasy is you can just make up the answer! Lmao
Cause it's your world, your physics
I wish that after the show is out wof will gain more traction and more youtubers will make content on it
Well I'm acting like it's guaranteed that the show will cone out. I'm hoping it will.
willow zinc
I wish that after the show is out wof will gain more traction and more youtubers...
Yeah :/ more people need to know abt wof
willow zinc
Well I'm acting like it's guaranteed that the show will cone out. I'm hoping it ...
So ive been trying to monitor the progress on it, and apparently it started a while ago, but netflix stopped it fir some reason
Then just recently, like a couple years ago it started production again
So man im hoping 🙏
dire rune
I swear I knew the reason
I forgot though
Ima rq drop my whole timeline of reading wof
My older siblings showed it to me when I was like 8 or smth and I didn't really care. But then I discovered the audio books and listened to all of them except 14 15 and the guide. So I bought 14 and 15 and rented the guide from the library.
After I read them all I suddenly got this huge desire to find and consume all the wof content I could find so I watched like 15 interviews and about 30 videos and a couple animations and memes. I'm pretty sure I saw the reason why it got canceled but all I know rn is tui said they scrapped it at step 6/100 and rn they are currently at step 6 so she has high hopes.
willow zinc
Oh noice!
I started reading wof during P1, aka like 7 yrs old
Coz i was at the student library, and i was bored so i picked it up and started reading randomly. I didnt read chronologically, and my first book was like book 4, but i didnt care, it was so good i borrowed the whole series and read and reread it countless times
Then recently, when i was on yt, and realised wof animations were on there, i went on like a wof binge watching thing, and also read the winglets and legends
solid latch
Technically whiteout is part icewing more than darkstinkle
No, I mean if Darkstalker and Whiteout has a little brother ( nice icewings ).
willow zinc
Yeahyeha i get u
timber island
how dead does this chat have to get before the mods make a new one
bitter stratus
how dead does this chat have to get before the mods make a new one
They do one whenever they feel like it, I think
steel flume
honestly it would be impossible to defeat darkstalker
shut quiver
No. If you found a way to drop him into a volcano, he'd technically still be alive, but his brain would be unable to regenerate. Therefore, he can't think or cast a spell to escape.
timber island
honestly it would be impossible to defeat darkstalker
we literally already found a way
this chat didn't die because nobody figured it out, it died because the best answer involved a lot of sleep darts, wine, icewings, and ice caves
nocturne drum
honestly it would be impossible to defeat darkstalker
Pretty much
It'd be better to just keep gambling on trying to get him into therapy
steel flume
we literally already found a way
i never read the old texts
shut quiver
Who does?
grim cradle
this chat didn't die because nobody figured it out, it died because the best ans...
I came up with a pretty flawless plan
We get an animus to enchant an hourglass to go back in time
And prevent darkstalker from ever becoming a problem
We’re technically not using animus magic on him
solid latch
You mean to stop him from becoming evil ?
solid latch
Darkstalker.... just needed another friend ( kind icewing ) who can teach him how to be good to the other tribe.
shut quiver
We’re technically not using animus magic on him
The prompt says that animus magic flat-out doesn't exist. It doesn't matter whom we use it on.
shut quiver
Volcano
-----> 🌋
nocturne drum
Therapy
solid latch
Same with Arctic too.
steel flume
Or just kill him
Isn't he immortal
solid latch
He mean's before he was immortal
shut quiver
Dripleaf wanted to go back in time.
solid latch
.... or tried to stop him becoming evil.
grim cradle
…and in doing so he is taken OFF the MENU
solid latch
Darkstalker was broken. His last words did tell me that he didn't realize he did it way too far.
He not pure evil.
Queen Dimond was mostly the reason why Arctic the way he is.
And she took Foeslayer.
solid latch
…and in doing so he is taken OFF the MENU
But I respect your words.
grim cradle
Book 10 is honestly over hated
solid latch
||Darkstalker turning into Peacemaker ?||
grim cradle
I get the controversies
But there are so many other scenes with darkstalker and his sentimental side that I can’t help but feel for him
Especially ||his discussion with qibli in his cave||
inner elm
ok
can modern humans defeat darkstalker?
(oooor, if that aint enough, what's the weakest sci-fi story that can defeat darkstalker?)
actually wait that shit reminded me of "The pinky guard" animation
dusty moth
can modern humans defeat darkstalker?
Nuclear weapons might work
inner elm
ig yea lmao
dusty moth
His scales might be impenetrable, but what about what's inside, or DNA, worst case it's still going to hurt, a lot
inner elm
His scales might be impenetrable, but what about what's inside, or DNA, worst ca...
I imagine he would just turn into a mass of cancerous cells after getting bombed lmao
dusty moth
I imagine he would just turn into a mass of cancerous cells after getting bombed...
A direct hit is going to hurt even if it doesn't kill him
inner elm
I mean, he hasnt enchanted himself to be immune to the cellular level (hell, I dont even think Darkstalker and other sentient beings in the WoF universe has reached that level of knowledge yet lmao)
dusty moth
Getting hot by the sun can't be fun
inner elm
yea, but the possible cancer growth is even worse
dusty moth
I mean, he hasnt enchanted himself to be immune to the cellular level (hell, I d...
Actually, an electron beam might work
inner elm
Actually, an electron beam might work
that's for specific area surgeries lol, there's none big enough to blast an entire 10m body
a nuke on the other hand...
dusty moth
that's for specific area surgeries lol, there's none big enough to blast an enti...
If you target it right
Remote lobotomy
dusty moth
target the brain
Exactly
inner elm
acttually wait
dusty moth
Lobotomize with electron beam
inner elm
how "unbreakable" is his skull anyways?
will a tank shell (the long rod that penetrates stuff) destroy it?
inner elm
will a tank shell (the long rod that penetrates stuff) destroy it?
is it even a shell lol
dusty moth
will a tank shell (the long rod that penetrates stuff) destroy it?
Heat
Think it's heat
High explosive anti tank
inner elm
mmmm yea
modern weaponries are busted as hell with all the explosion and heat fuckery lol
dusty moth
Scales are indestructible, probably won't work
Project Excalibur would do damage, stupid powerful xsaser can't be good for him
inner elm
Project Excalibur would do damage, stupid powerful xsaser can't be good for him
my internet's shit so my browser aint working, what's that?
dusty moth
my internet's shit so my browser aint working, what's that?
You pump an x ray laser with a nuclear detonation
It's a very powerful one use and very short lived laser
inner elm
oh shit
inner elm
ok, any other methods other than radiation fuckery?
does acid pools work?
not viable in practice, but might be useful for containment (if we can suspend his mind that is)
actually wait
electric shocks
that should be enough to fry his brain
(like, a really powerful electric shock thing, is there a weapon like that that's mobile tho?)
dusty moth
does acid pools work?
Basic solution
dusty moth
that should be enough to fry his brain
(like, a really powerful electric shock t...
Hang on
inner elm
that should be enough to fry his brain
(like, a really powerful electric shock t...
I can only think of the electric whip that some Zaku models have lol
(from Gundam)
steel flume
He mean's before he was immortal
Oh
steel flume
That’s right! We’re going back in time 2000 years to get darkstalker OFF the MEN...
👏 👏 🤣
vapid spruce
It says that DS is immune due to his scales. But there isn't anything saying he could die by anything going in him. He just needs to choke on something or eat a nuke and then the nuke detonates in order to kill him
shut quiver
On top of his invincible scales, DS also made himself immortal.
dusty moth
On top of his invincible scales, DS also made himself immortal.
If it doesn't work it's probably going to at least hurt
He won't like it and won't be doing anything for a bit
inner elm
On top of his invincible scales, DS also made himself immortal.
being immortal's a really vague term tbh
dire rune
being immortal's a really vague term tbh
most likely immortal in the sense of eternal life. not- INSERT TITLE SCREEN
inner elm
oh wait not thta
inner elm
most likely immortal in the sense of eternal life. not- *INSERT TITLE SCREEN*
nvm it os
bleak grail
||He made his scales as hard as diamonds right?|| So use heat. Diamonds disappear when they get too hot
nocturne drum
||He made his scales as hard as diamonds right?|| So use heat. Diamonds disappea...
No that was turtle
Genuinely the only option here is ... therapy and talk him down.
bleak grail
No that was turtle
In|| the Darkstalker legend, Darkstalker made his scales as hard as diamonds||
nocturne drum
In|| the Darkstalker legend, Darkstalker made his scales as hard as diamonds||
Nope, you're thinking of turtle in book 9
bleak grail
Oh oops
dire rune
||He made his scales as hard as diamonds right?|| So use heat. Diamonds disappea...
I said that too lmao. made the same mistake
inner elm
blunt attack might work against Darkstalker tbh
let's say that he made his scales invulnerable
basically things that bypasses the scales entirely will work
like, heat, radiation, impact, etc
we hit him hard enough, even if the scales disallow it from penetrating, he should still receive the reaction from the impact, as stated with newton's 3rd law
should rattle the brain or smth
passing out = cant think of spells
basically
use something hard and fast/small enough so that Darkstalker cant react to it
like the long rod that penetrates tanks or smth
shut quiver
basically things that bypasses the scales entirely will work
Darkstalker made himself fully immortal. Nothing can kill him. However, it was shown in book 9 that it takes a second for him to regenerate lost body parts. If you dropped him into a volcano or something, he would be constantly burning and unable to regenerate.
🌋
inner elm
Darkstalker made himself fully immortal. Nothing can kill him. However, it was s...
or blast him off to space
nocturne drum
blunt attack might work against Darkstalker tbh
Immortal
Also, at that point? Therapy would be easier.
And more likely to work
inner elm
nocturne drum
or blast him off to space
he still has animus
shut quiver
Immortal
Also, at that point? Therapy would be easier.
And more likely to work
How will you convince him to get therapy?
inner elm
passing out = cant think of spells
pass out, blast him to space, he cant breathe = still passed out, never thinking again
concussions work like wonder
it's not about killing him
it's about "defeating" him
nocturne drum
How will you convince him to get therapy?
With great difficulty
inner elm
less probability of working tbh
inner elm
Darkstalker made himself fully immortal. Nothing can kill him. However, it was s...
thank you for using a volcano 🫰
gave me the idea bout Kars
nocturne drum
How will you convince him to get therapy?
The serious answer?
Confront him with the truth: there's no future where he's happy.
He just started to realize this at the end of book 10
So literally just ... push him to that conclusion
inner elm
break him to depression
oh wow
might work ig
have the entire populatio-
oh wait he has animus magic
nocturne drum
less probability of working tbh
Tui said in an interview he would've willingly taken the strawberry if they hadn't tricked him ... it just would have taken longer.
inner elm
ic
nocturne drum
break him to depression
No, not break him
inner elm
yea Ic ur point now
inner elm
No, not break him
whaddya think bout the "Kars" strategy btw
nocturne drum
Don't like it
Darkstalker is my boy I'd never hurt him
inner elm
ok so strategies that might work
"Kars strategy"
"Turn him to a lump of cancer with a nuke"
"Therapy"
"Drop him into a volcano"
the first and last strategy requires Darkstalker to be knocked out first though
achievable through concussions
inner elm
Given what we're shown by Kinkajou melting his eyeball, only his scales are invu...
actually wait
we give him lobotomy
timber island
aint no way we launch him into space
timber island
how you plan on doing it
inner elm
pass out, blast him to space, he cant breathe = still passed out, never thinking...
this I guess
timber island
its supposed to be physically viable
inner elm
yea
inner elm
blunt attack might work against Darkstalker tbh
~
timber island
but how do you get him into space
inner elm
but how do you get him into space
put him into a rocket or smth
timber island
put him into a rocket or smth
where you gonna get a rocket
inner elm
keep making him pass out
inner elm
where you gonna get a rocket
the title of this discussion is "How to defeat Darkstalker without animus magic"
therefore
timber island
we already have a solution though
inner elm
therefore
the only thing not allowed is animus magic
keeping things grounded and realistic tho
inner elm
the only thing not allowed is animus magic
(modern weaponries hehehehe)
timber island
the title of this discussion is "How to defeat Darkstalker without animus magic"
i mean you could say wait for quatumn uncertainty to erase him from existence
it kind of detracts from the fun to do that
inner elm
it kind of detracts from the fun to do that
but this one's fun?
like
use something hard and fast like the thing used to penetrate tanks
the rod thingy
aim for the head
give him concussion
make sure he doesnt wake up by putting him in a no oxygen environment
send him off to space
Darkstalker defeated
timber island
hold on
inner elm
thinking about this is fun yknow
timber island
read this prompt and tell me the jade winglet had access to spacecrafts
inner elm
read this prompt and tell me the jade winglet had access to spacecrafts
well shit
anyways
having more options are way more fun
modern tools are incredible
heck, let's put Gundams and other Science fiction into it
timber island
heck, let's put Gundams and other Science fiction into it
we already have a solution 🤷 i gotta eep anyway
shut quiver
That is a punishment I would not wish on my worst enemy.
signal thicket
That is a punishment I would not wish on my worst enemy.
Why???
shut quiver
Because brainrot is awful.
inner elm
Because brainrot is awful.
once you get addicted to it, you can never stop (kinda like animus magic addiction)
inner elm
actually shit, Darkstalker has future sight
nvm Darkstalker's future sight is shit
solid latch
I know this have nothing to do with this but, I think if Darkstalker had an older brother then I think it could help Darkstalker learning the game things.
signal thicket
I know this have nothing to do with this but, I think if Darkstalker had an olde...
or it could give Darkstalker more expirience in riot control
so then he would defeat evry1 else andwin arc 2
solid latch
No, wait, I do have an AU, I can show it to you.
Alright. here I go
But wait..
Am I allow to send a long AU message here or...
signal thicket
whats an AU
solid latch
Alternate Universe and its a fan fiction
signal thicket
oh
solid latch
Hmm.... I think I will take the risk. If it get deleted by the mod then I will apologize.
When an icewing hatch, his first word is daddy ( to Arctic ) and Arctic like him as a icewing and he name him Colden. One yeard later... Darkstalker hatch and he sees Arctic soul was dark. But then when he see his brother he noticed his soul was not dark.... but he still hate Colden a very little bit because he was an icewing ( Darkstalker did not know him yet ). Colden care for his younger brother (Darkstalker is one year younger then him. ) and heard he was powerful. Colden decided to gave him attention as much as he can to make sure he guided him to use his power for good. He noticed Arctic didn't like him so Colden was trying to keep Darkstalker away from him as much as possible to make sure he doesn't get any bad idea from Arctic action. And yes, Colden care for Whiteout too. He doesn't like the way ||Arctic and Foeslayer are auguring a lot|| so he created two sound proof ear plugs for Whiteout and Darkstalker to make sure they don't have trouble sleeping. Colden check on Darkstalker to make sure he doesn't feel alone or planning something bad. He go outside with Darkstalker a lot ||( since Arctic rarely hung out with him and mostly pick whiteout over him. )|| and have a lot of fun. Colden and Darkstalker met up with Clearsight ( First time meeting. ) and Clearsight likes Darkstalker and Colden felt happy about it. A few years later, he created a bracelet for Darkstalker to make him not feel way too much anger ( Yes, Colden is an animus ). Darkstalker started to feel happy to have Colden as his brother and think not all icewings are bad.
Colden check on Arctic too to make sure he ok and alright. Arctic tried to hung out with Colden but he said no because he had to make sure Darkstalker don't get any bad idea that can lead him into a dark path ( Don't worry, Colden do hung out and plays with Artic but not too much. ). Arctic felt a little mad about it but he accepted it anyway. Colden told Arctic that he understand his hated for Darkstalker but wanted him to be gentle with him. Arctic said he will not because he a nightwing and still ||don't want to be near him.||Colden told Arctic about the note that Queen Diamond send him and said he knows Arctic care about him deep down. Arctic felt surprise and think about it for a moment and said fine he will try as long Darkstalker stop growing at him and reading his mind. Colden nodded and hug Arctic to make him feel less grumpy and Arctic hug him back. He let go of Arctic and it took some minute for him to go to Darkstalker's room. Once Colden enter Darkstalker room to check on him he came near him and talks about fun stuff. He enchanted Darkstalker to make him stop reading Arctic mind when he near him. Darkstlker asked what is he doing and Colden said relax and calm down it not going to do something bad trust me. Darkstalker wasn't sure but he trust him anyway because Colden was being a good older brother to him. Colden also ask Darkstalker if he can stop growing at Arctic and Darkstalker fine but not kind. After a few years, Arctic and Darkstalker get along with each other the family started to spend time together.
There.
signal thicket
ok
what if colden was evil? because if he asks darkstalker to do what he wants then its basicaly colden having animus magic
solid latch
Colden is not evil. He a good brother to Darkstalker and Whiteout.
signal thicket
but could he be affected by animus magic?
bcuz having it available is the same as having it
solid latch
As long as Colden don't use a lot of powers then he will be fine.
signal thicket
its not that simple
if you had that wouldn't u be tempted to use it on every problem youhad
solid latch
..... wellll..... Colden will try to avoid doing bad action and having bad idea.
signal thicket
even the most humble person will have trouble
turtle had the right idea: dont use it
but thats still hard
its all in book 9 again or jerboa's pov in book 14
solid latch
But Fathom use his power to save indigo and he did it to protect her.
He didn't trun evil by it.
solid latch
Colden didn't attack anyone.
signal thicket
he might
solid latch
No, he won't. Colden don't have any reason to do that.
solid latch
Arctic is a good father to Colden because he an full Icewing and I pretty sure he won't get angry by him.
signal thicket
but wouldnt artic be mad to Darkstalker?
solid latch
.... Colden Kept Darkstalker away from Arctic as much as he can and gave him much attention as he can so he wouldn't get any bad idea from Arctic action.
dusty moth
where you gonna get a rocket
sea dragon might be big enough
signal thicket
.... Colden Kept Darkstalker away from Arctic as much as he can and gave him muc...
Would artic get mad at colden for protecting darkstalker?
solid latch
Arctic wanted to avoid Darkstalker too
So... I doubt it.
I don't think Arctic would be mad at Colden for keeping Darkstalker away from him
solid latch
....
Sign... No, Arctic care for Colden and he not going to get mad at him for keeping Darkstalker away from him.
Colden hung out with Darkstalker to have fun and play with since Arctic mostly hung out with Whiteout.
solid latch
Still sometimes colden would get mad right
but yes, Colden get mad at Arctic for hating Darkstalker but not a lot.. just a little because he not vengeful.
solid latch
I doubt it, Colden cares for Whiteout too, not just Darkstalker.
solid latch
The more Darkstalker hung out with his older brother to have fun... the more it will lead Darkstalker away from the dark path.
solid latch
Still sometimes colden would get mad right
And don't worry, Colden did make sure to not use too much of his powers,
bleak grail
Who is Colden? Wasn’t it just Darkstalker and Whiteout?
inner elm
Who is Colden? Wasn’t it just Darkstalker and Whiteout?
AU
solid latch
Yes, it an AU
solid latch
Who is Colden? Wasn’t it just Darkstalker and Whiteout?
In AU, Darkstalker had an older brother, which is an Icewing.
bleak grail
Ohhh
inner elm
guys
what if
other fictional characters vs darsktalker
I think main criteria for the win would be
-can resist magic
or
-can kill an unkillable being
I can think of a bunch tbh
Kumagawa Misogi, Regulus, Yogiri Takatou
(yes I like anime, so what? I kinda wanna see non-anime characters lol)
also let's put Light Yagami in it for fun's sake
solid latch
Umm..... I don't think that going to work....
signal thicket
Harry Potter vs Darkstalker who would win?
shut quiver
Darkstalker. Easy. The only reason Harry survived Voldemort is because of some complicated blood magic.
nocturne drum
Animus is so cracked compared to any other magic system it's not even funny lol
inner elm
Animus is so cracked compared to any other magic system it's not even funny lol
fr, imagination and english wordplay's the limit
inner elm
Bill Cipher?
he no diffs darkstalker I think
inner elm
Umm..... I don't think that going to work....
I mean... Deth note's only limit is like... you can only set the death time to before the actual death time
brave spire
Show him the absolute greatness of Qinter
shut quiver
How would that stop him from being evil?
brave spire
How would that stop him from being evil?
IDFK
bright dove
How would that stop him from being evil?
He would realize that Qibli has awesomeness beyond compare, that paired with Winter being the cousin of the Icewings queen, well that's just unbeatable
inner elm
Show him the absolute greatness of Qinter
I think he'll decide to just kill everyone on the spot just after 0.012 seconds of knowing that ship
(obv a reference to ultron)
torpid crescent
Simple way to put it, you can only do it with magic and just make the sleeping spell bracelet meld with his scales and never come off, or just permanently happen whether it’s on his wrist or off
shut quiver
No. If you put him in a volcano, then he'll be in too much agony to think or cast spells.
You could also try giving him therapy.
solid latch
Same with Arctic. I think he needed therapy too
torpid crescent
He wouldn’t listen because he would probably think they didn’t like him the way he was and wanted to change him or something in the paranoid way he thinks sometimes
nocturne drum
You could also try giving him therapy.
And hugs
Lots of hugs
torpid crescent
And hugs
Lots of hugs
Yeah lol, pretty much the only dragon he listened to was his mom, and she could probably give him all the hugs he’d need
nocturne drum
Yeah lol, pretty much the only dragon he listened to was his mom, and she could ...
no such thing as enough hugs
solid latch
He wouldn’t listen because he would probably think they didn’t like him the way ...
But Arctic... I do felt bad for him....
timber island
pinch the back of his neck with a clothespin
neon wigeon
Darkstalker's spell (IIRC) only makes his scales invincible, so you can still damage him by exposed areas such as the mouth, eyes, nose, etc, or internal bleeding by blunt force trauma.
timber island
Darkstalker's spell (IIRC) only makes his scales invincible, so you can still da...
correct
timber island
Darkstalker's spell (IIRC) only makes his scales invincible, so you can still da...
the joke i was making is a cat joke
modest grotto
I mean do you mean no animus magic in general or no spells that can be used on him
Why can't you gojo him and just flood his mind with infinite information
plucky herald
Grindstone to disenchant darkstalker
wispy carbon
If were assuming existing spells still exist, have someone cary turtles stick and put Qiblis earing on Darkstalker, since Darkstalker will no longer be affected by his own spells, he will lose immortallity and invincibility and will then die
nocturne drum
If were assuming existing spells still exist, have someone cary turtles stick an...
Doesn't work on Darkstalker
Only works on Peacemaker
nocturne drum
Redundant word, apologies
torpid crescent
If were assuming existing spells still exist, have someone cary turtles stick an...
He made himself invulnerable to other’s spells, so it wouldn’t work
timber island
Make him fight Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the white, Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight, [EXPUNGED], and the blue meanie, cowboy Curtis, and jambe the genie, robocop, the terminator, captain Kirk, Darth Vader, lo-pan, superman, every single power ranger, bill s Preston, and theatre Logan, Spock, the rock, doc ock, and hulk hogan
nocturne drum
Make him fight Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the white, Monty Python and the Holy...
You forgot Tim the enchanter
timber island
You forgot Tim the enchanter
Id rather bring in Mr Rogers
timber island
I need a second to process that mental image
Listen to dinosaurchestra fr
minor moth
hmo: gun
nah jk I don't actually know (now that I think about it he's immortal that won't do shart)
primal crag
His scales are indestructible but his insides are not. You could pull it off if you shot him in the mouth with high-caliber high velocity armor-piercing rounds. The scales would work against him by preventing any exit, guaranteeing ricochets inside his body so he just gets shredded. Hit the brain and it'd be instant.
dusty moth
His scales are indestructible but his insides are not. You *could* pull it off i...
Hypervelocity rounds then
polar dust
I think in theory
literally any character could kill darkstalker via like
Reaching through his eye and hitting something in his brain
though only peril realistically could probably do it given her firescales
And she'd probably need a blindspot enchantment the same way kinkajou did
It wouldn't technically "kill" him but because his healing isn't automatic if you did enough damage to the brain you could turn him into a vegetable and he'd essentially be an immortal statue or paralyzed
lost rain