#FPS drops when playing

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crude bison
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Hi, is there a way to increase FPS ingame? Playing with 4-6 friends, RTX 3080 and Ryzen 7 3700X and 32 GB RAM, any suggestion? DX11 and RT off, medium preset.

pliant comet
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Honestly dude, that's just kinda how the game runs. Your best bet would be to use the Balanced DLSS preset along with Reflex low latency on with boost and try with the presets set to high instead of epic. Also make sure the experimental option "Terrain Deformation" is off.

dim coral
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Even that does not help. Game performance is shot after 1- 2 hours.. like a memory leak almost. But i cant see one. Yhen again graphics get more and more glitchy the longer you play too

pliant comet
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After todays update most of the issues I had went away.

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Especially the stuttering, I haven't had any.

dim coral
pliant comet
dim coral
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i play high preset ( some medium ) on DX11 .. DX12 was even way worse (but that had at least a warning )

pliant comet
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But the performance dips are pretty severe.

dim coral
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RTX on ? i feel like RTX does not even work at all .. i could at least see no different between RTX on on DX12 and RTX off at DX11

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and performance dips i have when entering a cave fighting a worm is unplayable .

pliant comet
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Yeah, I got it to work. I was getting around 45 FPS average at 2560x1080.

dim coral
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not 1440p?

pliant comet
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Nope, its a 21:9 ultrawide.

dim coral
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anyway ... game released 9 month ago .. i would expect that graphics would be stable at least on DX11 . something i dont feel right now at all ( now i have not tested todays patch ... but i am a bit uhhhh after so many issues )

pliant comet
dim coral
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now oddly i can play this game at least a bit .. Cyberpunk 2077 has been a ClusterFFFFFFF since the 1.5 patch ... worked fin until 1.35 but now its unplayable ... 5 minute + mega lag spike each time i open the menu or map that gets longer and longer the more often i do it ... CDPR promised to have fixed it now 3 times ... latest 1.6 patch is still completely broken ... so ... Icarus is not as bad as this ( i forced CDPR to give me my money back for breaking the game .. at first they refused but good consumer laws forced them anyway )

pliant comet
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On quality it gets a little chuggy when extreme lighting effects happen.

dim coral
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yea it was basically bug free until 1.35 .. even "pirated" the 1.35 version to check if it was the patch or my pc ... turned out to be the patch ... and Support did not reply to me for 6 month ... so i had enough ...

pliant comet
dim coral
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sad steam does not allow you to downgrade to older versions by default

pliant comet
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Yeah not typically, but I've also never found the need to unless its a game like fallout where mod support breaks on update.

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Then an downgrade feature would be super useful.

dim coral
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lol that game for some reason gives me like 800 MS mouse lag where it looks like mouse smooting is turned onto a million

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no visual bug but impossible to use my mouse lol

pliant comet
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Thats wild lmao, I'd be really curious to know exactly what causes that.

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Theres no way a 3060 Ti should be outperforming a 3080.

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What CPU? I've got a 10700F

dim coral
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i am sure its like one of the coding edge thinks ... Like in C# where you can follow standar practice of making a timer but 5-10% of users have a broken game because the timer breaks for them... forcing devs to use a threated timer as a "bugfix"

pliant comet
dim coral
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often its not obviuus hehe

pliant comet
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wow and you've got a beast of a CPU to.

dim coral
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issue is that some devs think " i cant reproduce it so must be customer talking out of his ass" ... that that once with starbound dev that said that the game crashing would be impossible without a crash dumb ... but it crashed because that game crashed before it even got to load the libery . he claimed that was impossible .. but it was not .. turned out i had to fix it and it was a missing libery that was not correctly linked and hence it would crash before loading because of missing libs that he thought every windows instalation had

pliant comet
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Weird, you've now named a third game I haven't had issues with but that last time I played it Windows 7 was still cool.

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But not surprising, the dev of that game ripped off the people who worked for him.

dim coral
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that game had issues back in the day right before or after the release .. i think it was EA still back then .. i slammed him allot and he accepted it was a bug and silently fixed it

pliant comet
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Wild, you'd think he'd be happy someone did the work for him. But i guess he would rather be petty.

dim coral
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pride .. pride is the issue

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πŸ˜›

pliant comet
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Fair enough. Not wrong.

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Either way, I hope ICARUS performs better for you after this recent update as It did for me. But as i mentioned I only had some stuttering mostly from underwater lighting effects and from loading distant trees. Since the patch I haven't had the lag associated to that. My buddy with the 3050 Ti says he lags when the map is open making it difficult to set waypoints lol.

dim coral
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i can give it soon a try ... just have to finish watching "lower decks"

pliant comet
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Enjoy!

mellow hull
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I have a 3070 and i7 12700k. After i upgraded from a i7 9700k the game ran a lot smoother. Constant 80-100fp with dips into the 70s when in heavy weather + shadows.

Game is running @ 1080p on Ultra. No DLSS

Average is 90FPS with a 68 0.1% Frame drop. Smooth otherwise.

I would check thermal throttling and make sure the game is installed on an SSD.

Here are my system specs for your own comparison:

MSI 3070 8GB
MSI Z690 CARBON Motherboard
32GB DDR4 @ 3500 OC (4 Channel)
I7-12700k with Watercooling
970 EVO 1TB SSD > (Game is installed here)

@dim coral

dim coral
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it is installed on an SSD ... with water colling .. GPU temps never go above 64 C and CPU temps never go above 60 C ... thats FAaaarrrrrr away from thermal throteling ... on top of this the game is installed on a Samsung 970 Pro SSD 2 TB

mellow hull
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Thats so weird. All drivers are updated?

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Check here as well. These made a difference:

dim coral
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yepp ... most FPS drops come often with other visual issues though ( allready did a DDU so it cant be corrupt drivers ether)

dim coral
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all up todate

mellow hull
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Man. I had the exact same problem as you. Terrible frames compared to similar systems.

dim coral
mellow hull
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Whats your CPU?

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And PSU?

dim coral
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1200 Watt from corsair ( quality PSU =

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if the PSU would not deliver enough power then i would expect my PC to crash ( that is at least what happens to other people that had not enough PSU power )

mellow hull
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Temps are fine
Drivers up to date
SSD Directory.

Your PSU is fine. Im running a 1000W PSU and have had no issues. Whats your frames in GTAV Online or something also as intensive like Tarkov?

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Or any other game

dim coral
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dont play those 2 games

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generation Zero is like 150 fps though

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star citizen 45-60 fps

mellow hull
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I know the multiple people in one outpost / game can cause massive issues

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Its been a bug since day one

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I also get super bad FPS with more than 2 people

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Drops to 70ish constant then dips into mid 60s high 50s

dim coral
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talking about solo ... though friend with a ryzen and same GPU and 32 GB ram also on SSD has pretty similar experiance when it comes to lag

mellow hull
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Weird. I've used DDU and its been fine as long as your in safemode. Used it 3 times this year. I would try that then see how it gors

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goes*

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Fresh install GPU drivers, reinstall the game.

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Then check framerate solo and group

dim coral
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allready said i tried DDU

mellow hull
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Ah

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My bad missed that

dim coral
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game is btw fresh install to

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installed the game on monday

mellow hull
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All that is left really is your CPU. AMD is a great company but they are a few notches behind intel in terms of performance with similar titles.

It honestly might be an AMD issue; Again, no issues with that company but I've owned both and have gotten smoother and better frames on titles using Intel.

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Might just have to play on lower settings.

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I hate pulling the "AMD vs Intel" card but thats my only concern really

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you've tried everything else it seems.

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Some titles are just better suited for AMD; Like "The Division 2"

dim coral
mellow hull
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forgive me its 4am for me lmfao

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What your clock?

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Oh shit you have an I9?

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Hold up

dim coral
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yepp

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here in game now

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big CPU spike was when i enter a cave ... big lag .. but its like big lag at one spot .. the spot i am fighting worms .... lags like freaking hell

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Also notic GPU usage is only at 45%

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when i play over time this increases no matter if i stay the same space to 100% and preformance gets worse and worse and worse until its unplayable

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here is a full res screen of where i have cave lag .. this exact spot

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but thats 1 out of 3 issues i have

mellow hull
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Yeah.

Keep in mind your CPU is 4 years old as well. Lacks some new technology as well in terms of drivers that are applicable. The I9 is also deemed to be a more "workload" oriented CPU and thats a big thing when talking about such a graphically and rendering-intensive game like iCARUS (albeit the game isnt well optimized anyway)

Looking at your cache size; its damn good. So it isn't a memory issue.
Your core count is good but how they are used is the big thing to recognize.

dim coral
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4 years is not really that old ...... i would agree with you if i would have a 3xxxx I7

mellow hull
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It's not at all. But the driver integration is what might be the issue as well. I'm not saying your CPU is bad, but the I9's are more oriented for a user workload / multi-tasking and not as much as say i7.

Again, it could be just that your CPU just doesnt like Icarus because of "X, Y, Z"

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Going from GEN9 to GEN12 vastly improved my performance; same core count as my old vs my new cpu too. It just all depends on driver integration, new tech and how the cores are utilized.

dim coral
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does not seem like a CPU thing ...

The cave thing seems to me like crazy unloading loading on an edge ... that needs fixing from the devs ... thats how it feels to me ...
the other major issue is only GPU based issue ... GPU utilization going from 40 % not allot of lag to 100% shit ton of lag after 2 hours gametime seems something like a memory leak almost ... just not with memory stuff but something else in the GPU code .... almost like bad garbage collection ... This on top gives visual artifacts in the game world

mellow hull
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Yeah i notice the artifacts are worse as the game goes on.

dim coral
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also what you talk about CPU not supporting features .. this is common with people that have a 10 year + old CPU not supporting AVX instructions that is pretty commonly used today in most computer games but you have people complaining that there 15 year old Intel pentium 4 cant run it because of the lack of AVX

mellow hull
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I'm just giving my 2 cents, not trying to attack you or anything; just trying to give speculation.

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I would chalk it down to just bad optimization.

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I'm sure your CPU is performing well in most titles anyway

dim coral
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my point is those issues should not have been in a game released over 9 month ago to its final version after an extensive alpha .. i expected more polishing .. Its a huge isssue in my opinion that needs to be fixed ... If devs want help they only need to say what to do to reproduce / give them the right info. But you already confirmed that you also have artifacts issues. Yea i know you try to help but somewhat frustrating when i have a pretty good PC and people go " naa you pc is to old / slow " .. 4 years is not old πŸ˜›

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also CPU sucks in some games

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like star citizen that likes higher clocks way more then more cores πŸ˜›

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i hade a different core i9 before this one here that had more cores but max boost was 3.2 ghz instead of the 4.6 all cores i have now .. that caused allot of preformance issues actually πŸ˜›

mellow hull
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Memory leaks are still a big issue as well anyway. In no way do I think your PC is bad or lacks modern parts; truly we won't know what is going on unless you run your equipment in an isolated setting with tools that allow you to really dive into specifics.

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We can only look at "if FPS high + smooth = Good"

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Ya know

dim coral
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i think stable is more importent then high fps ... a game at 60 FPS and stable is better then a game at 144 fps with major dips .. even if its just a frame at a time

mellow hull
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I agree. I'm not sure what your issue is entirely. Maybe just get a better CPU?

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I'm joking

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Best of luck. Frustrating for sure.

dim coral
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i heard the new intel CPU will do 6 ghz .. i wonder if that is stable constant all cores πŸ€” or if its like a 5 second boost ( intel is a good liar when it comes to core clocks )

mellow hull
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Ah ffs

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Apparently I can't swear either.

dim coral
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hehe

mellow hull
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I said maybe if you put your CPU in a deep freezer those clocks are possible. Intel runs hot as hell.

dim coral
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lol yea

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CPU clock is actually still very important for games .. even if they slowly start using more cores

mellow hull
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Most I can get right now is 5.0

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unstable over 80% usage though

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For gaming its fine.

dim coral
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yea intel is good saying it max turbo boost .. that it only can substain for 5 second max

mellow hull
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lmfao

dim coral
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but not the substainable core clock

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hence why i am sceptical for that 6 ghz clock

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if it can substain 6 ghz .. that would be a game changer .. if it can be above 5.2-5.3 all cores with decent temps then there is at least a reason to have it

mellow hull
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Yeah. I'm happy with what ive got though. 5.2 is my target.

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Still testing. We'll see when MW2 comes out i suppose

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might be a good benchmark

dim coral
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i thought only the 9900 KS could do all core 5ghz substained ?

mellow hull
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12700k I believe can do higher

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I had 5.1 on my 9700k

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Air cooled

dim coral
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substained over time ?

mellow hull
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I believe so. Haven't got around to running long benchmarks

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only short

dim coral
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ok i talk about keeping a clock for half an hour to infitiny at least πŸ˜›

mellow hull
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Oh yeah i'm sure its possible with my generation. Just need a full water loop for stability

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We'll see what happens with the new ARC series

dim coral
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pretty sure in the future we need a 32 amp connection for hour PC if tech continues to just get hotter and more power hungry

worthy swallow
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Hey, just use dx12 mode, it will fix your fps.