Herald Crit Build

[icy mortar]

i see, and this crit build is more around impact and precision?

[earnest scarab]

It's around precision

U basically want prec in all items

[icy mortar]

moreso then weapon power?

[earnest scarab]

Ye

I still can softcap weapon power with full precision

Using food

[icy mortar]

oh wow really?

what lvl are you?

[earnest scarab]

46

[icy mortar]

how hard does your wind arrow and snipe hit

[earnest scarab]

Oh god i didn't focus on that

But i can see crits for 1.6k with snipe

It's fine to grind on gilead/vampires

[icy mortar]

how often do u crit?

[earnest scarab]

With pullling 2/3 mobs tho

22% crit rate

So well statistics says it's 1 for every 5 hits xD

But i can see a lot of crits

• later in game it'll scale

I don't have rune for 30 impact

Gonna buy it for t4 bow tho

• t5 items gives us huge power spike

Due to precision + weapon power/impact in items

I have 22% crit rate and 40% crit dmg right now

Armor and boots with impact

Other with precision

But sadly for crit version u have to use leathers imo so u're less tanky

8% from set bonus is like 35 points on my lvl xD

[icy mortar]

mhm i see

[heady dome]

how much impact do u have @earnest scarab

[icy mortar]

im asking because right now i have a mix of t2/3 gear and a semi good t3 bow

and trying to find weapon power items are super costly

[earnest scarab]

12

[heady dome]

u going for more?

or only at t5

[earnest scarab]

only on t5

cuz it scale like shit

i have 2 items and neck with impact

until t5 u go for precision

[heady dome]

i guess when u hit rank 7 with ranger company prec/impact ring gonna be bis

[earnest scarab]

yeah

[icy mortar]

@earnest scarab you able to hop in a vc?

[earnest scarab]

for?

[icy mortar]

kinda wanted to see the build in action, cant find anyone on twitch with the build

[icy mortar]

So if I understand right, at t3 gear you want weaponpower/ precision. Then at t4/5 you want weaponpower/precision and impact on leather set correct?

[earnest scarab]

yes

and u just run away with melee mobs

[icy mortar]

what about ranged base mobs and pvp? how does that feel with this build?

[earnest scarab]

for ranged u just stay in place nad dodge skill shoots

in pvp u need to take cc skills

[icy mortar]

gotcha, and do we care about dex much or more of might/vit?

[earnest scarab]

Dex is usefull in t4 items

When u can get global cd down to 1.2s

[icy mortar]

gotcha, might items are so expensive at t3 =\

[earnest scarab]

Yes they are

Thats why i avoided might there xd

T4's are cheaper

At least armor and helmet for now

[icy mortar]

for leather though right?

[earnest scarab]

Yep

[warm sparrow]

anyone tried light blade? should be cheaper to get..

[raw merlin]

How does this build feel as melee following up on jessica's comment

[mint bramble]

Im trying to get a dex t3 bow, using at t2 and is so good the GC and atk spd

[raven ridge]

i use lightblade with it its not bad but def better with a bow cuz u are kiting so u are in a lot less of risk dying

[zenith rock]

better go plate full weapon power or full precision?

[trim pawn]

why use wisdom in herald crit build?

[jagged creek]

cuz u need mana regen to keep spamming ur spells without needing to wait 30s everytime u kill a pool

[earnest scarab]

Not worth after lvl 45

U want to run with mobs cuz melee ones deal less dmg that way

[steel cobalt]

and if u skip

[steel cobalt]

and what u take in t3 if u avoid might? im looking to start getting now T3 items

so prec and what for first att? vitality or what?

[earnest scarab]

Vit/wis

[steel cobalt]

okey thanks

wisdom its good to have in this build'

?

cuz maybe i can get vitality and i dont need to put points on vit and use all points for might

this one its only 7600 or the vit its 55k so whats better option take the cheaper or the expensive? XD

[dusty quiver]

I would start with the cheaper one honestly. It’s so cheap that later on you can upgrade when you have a lot more space silver if you want to

[warm sparrow]

I can run with light blade right ? since I can use distance skills with meele weapons in the result its jusk a skin, and light blade with might/precision for example can be found cheaper with popular bow

correct?

[earnest scarab]

u can and it's not only skin

bow will auto attack from distance

light blade not

and after lvl 45 melee mobs are better killed in ranged

cuz they do a lot in melee + they have skills in melee while in range it's well

mostly auto attack

[verbal sonnet]

Could you send a photo of your set?

[warm sparrow]

would that be good bow to start ?

[earnest scarab]

ye

[crystal vault]

This build is updated to the current changes?

I'm thinking about starting the game using this build

[earnest scarab]

what do u mean current changes?

they only nerfed ring and bladestorm(we're not using it anymore)

[earnest scarab]

https://ravendawndb.com/en/build/4188-crit-herald-earlymid-game

Updated for lvl 45+ and T4 items

[main condor]

is this any usefull for now ? https://i.imgur.com/j4a76kZ.png

I mean im using it anyways atm ;p

[main condor]

which rings are mentioned in this build btw? cuz neck im assumin its one with the ap impact and prec 10 right ?

[earnest scarab]

yeah it's fine

nice rolls tho

[earnest scarab]

f.ex these

[main condor]

ok thank you

[mint bramble]

@earnest scarab im at lvl 25 trying to use this build, but im suffering on it. Can you give a early game build? Im following the link but i got no points enough to sustain and all those dps skills

I would be happy if you can do it !

🥹

[earnest scarab]

how many skill points?

[forest topaz]

how do you folks thing worth 300k?

[earnest scarab]

no cuz it has spell power

and greatsword scale with weapon

[forest topaz]

ty

how about light blade scaling now?

[earnest scarab]

They patched that

Its adaptive now

[mint bramble]

I have 36 skill points

Sry im late saw ur msg

Working a bit

@earnest scarab

[earnest scarab]

Welp im in work rn

Take shieldbreak and feasting with last passive on right

And curse leech worms from witchcraft with bloodmancer

And go for dragons arrow

So worms should heal u for around 600

[mint bramble]

Does it have another arquetip to substitute witchcraft?

Im bad af with witchcraft skills, and i got no sustain cuz im noob playing dots ;-;

[earnest scarab]

U need right card on leech

And auto attack target with it

[earnest scarab]

Protection probably

But not as strong as witch

[mint bramble]

Oh rip me xD

Ill try what u said

[earnest scarab]

Try prot/spiritual

U should lvl up all anyway

For skillpoints

[mint bramble]

Need to take viper arrow?

[earnest scarab]

Additional dot so yes

[mint bramble]

Okay

[karmic tide]

im back from Herald hahaha

https://prnt.sc/9nnaAakoCF4p my build now

[zenith rock]

Cloth fica daora?

Tava pensando em usar 2 plate/2 cloth ou full cloth

[warm sparrow]

decent for 10k ?

[graceful basin]

10k is basically free

[spice nacelle]

I just craft on Angerhorn if anyone wants to buy. Pretty good for Herald build

[wild ibex]

my t3 leather set is might and impact on head and chest, and vitality and impact on legs and boots. gonna try using a bow with weapon power. hopefully after I get the opportunists necklace, I'll be criting enough...

[warm sparrow]

Imo without enough crit chance impact is dead stat

[earnest scarab]

how much crit rate do u have?

[karmic tide]

Cara eu gostei

Achei melhor

[toxic blade]

whats your talent loadout looking like?

[mint bramble]

2 leather 2 cloth fica bom?

[delicate umbra]

is it good ??

[earnest scarab]

would be nice to have might in some pieces

but will be fine

Having 40 haste and passive from witchcraft feels nice ngl

[delicate umbra]

how about add runes for might ??

[earnest scarab]

Yup u want that anyway

And weapon power into weapon

[zenith rock]

vou dar uma testada aqui!
de amuleto vc ta usando o opportunist?

[latent bear]

What u think for 280k?

That my weapon, now..

[steel cobalt]

why dexterity its only worth after T4 items?

[earnest scarab]

cuz u need whole 40 points in it

and witchcraft passive for 10% global cd

[earnest scarab]

i wouldn't recommend greatswords

it feels like bow for lvl 45+ is the best

for weapon classes

either bow or dagger+ other 1h

[steel cobalt]

for sustain what u feels better to take first, savagery or bloodseker after take bloodbath

[earnest scarab]

The most right passive in warfare

Cuz it heals u onhit with autos and then lifesteal from every source of dmg u deal during buff

Savagery isn't that good for healing it's mostly for another dot

But im playing without it rn

Cuz im testing witchcraft passives on gilead

• looking for nice staff to try spell dmg herald

[steel cobalt]

now im testing like this

you think its somene better to change?

with this points

[real river]

https://prnt.sc/N96oVHTABNxG I have this build, do you recommend a bow with precision or weapon power?

[earnest scarab]

U have no crit rate so go for weapon power
@steel cobalt it's fine, go for rain and dragon next

[real river]

In that case, the rank 5 necklace is better for me instead of the ranger rank 6?

[earnest scarab]

U still can get rank 6 tho

It's 10 ap

But berserker should be better imo

So ye rank 5

[forest topaz]

Wdyt about this one folks?

[distant heron]

i don't think so, you get fixed might and T4 should last u till 70+

[forest topaz]

so need to lf pure might/vit/wist one ?

[spice nacelle]

WTS -

[real river]

server?

[spice nacelle]

Angerhorn

[raw merlin]

What are you guys running if you want to rock this melee? I’ve been seeing daggers/great sword? I’m using 2h ace but honestly feel meh so far, aoe is nice though. I might really just need more points only late 20’s

[earnest scarab]

bow

[raw merlin]

Yea I figured really wanted to live that melee fantasy but dots/kiting it all works soo much better with a bow.

[paper yacht]

good choice for 4k ?

[glass falcon]

4k is basically free so probably yes

[foggy niche]

Hey my guys, just crafted this bad boy, safe to infuse or vit is too weak?

[main condor]

super good i think

[slow mantle]

Which neck to use if I'm using 2plate 2 leather?

[slow mantle]

I would love to have it

[earnest scarab]

Nice one

[normal shadow]

full cloth might/precision ou weapon power fica bom?

[forest topaz]

did anyone tried playing this herald with dagger/shield?

[static tiger]

i tried greataxe, and so far bow fits better

[oak plank]

@earnest scarab changing from hexwarden to this build right now, do you think its better to focus on all T3 with might + precision or try to get a T4 bow with T3 set with only might + random secondary

my current bow

the gear is all cloth with Int + random shit

[earnest scarab]

Either plate/cloth with weapon dmg or leather with precision

Bow is fine

U can use it before t4 and get t4 with weapon power or prec

[crystal vault]

This build can do good damage on pvp? I intend to use mainly for pve but if I want to do some PvP it can be done?

[earnest scarab]

Ye just take some extra cc

And hex

But it will be weaker than hex warden in pvp

[oak plank]

@earnest scarab i already have 21% crit chance

lvl 24

should i get a t3 bow with Power or Impact

[earnest scarab]

Weapon power

Don't go for impact before rangers company rank 7 or t4 items

Cuz it's not worth

[oak shore]

for t3 plate is better?

[daring tapir]

Any updated tree w the legacy skills?

[main condor]

are u 70+ already xD?

i mean it says early/mid build so

[mint bramble]

He atualizing as he lvl up

If you scroll up will see when he updated to lvl 45 build

[earnest scarab]

Yeah and mid is 45-70

[earnest scarab]

Legacy lvl doesnt matter

Whats your effective lvl?

[earnest scarab]

Plate or leather

Both are good but leather gives u more crit rate while plate gives more tankiness

[earnest scarab]

I see

skill tree on site isn't even updated

[earnest scarab]

i think something like this + u swap earthquake for fissure and from legacy skills warfare one looks the best

and in t5 items u want either precision + weapon power or precision + impact in secondary stats

[paper yacht]

I think plate its better for early/mid game and leather its for end game because we need a lot crit what do you think ?

[earnest scarab]

both works good

im playing with leather cuz that 8% crit rate is a lot

but plate with weapon power on early game will be better

a little bit

[muted pelican]

Early game are we using greataxe, or?

[craggy lance]

i use this for the now

[earnest scarab]

bow bow bow

[red carbon]

How much crit were you able to stack?

[earnest scarab]

22%

in leather and i had weapon power in 1 item

[normal shadow]

I have my set t1/t2, I want to buy a t3 set, what attributes do you think are good to get? Vit with Precision or weapon power?
Set with power is very expensive, I wanted a second option

Axe is better than bow?

[red carbon]

Does it go down when you level up?

Or it just takes more and more to level it more

[earnest scarab]

expensive one is might + precision/weapon power or plate + weapon power but u can go for vit/wis/might + prec/weapon power as cheaper ones

Bow is better due to ranged auto attacks and axe is slightly better for aoe

[earnest scarab]

yes it goes down

i think

actually

wait it's good question cuz i didn't look at it

yeah it goes down

~0.2% of crit rate per effective lvl

[red carbon]

Thats harsh lol

[normal shadow]

I'll buy a bow and an axe

It is best to look for a bow and an axe with what attributes? best two handed axe?

[earnest scarab]

@normal shadow

[wild ibex]

Lightblade has been fixed but I haven’t personally tested one since.

[forest topaz]

it should be scaling wp/sp whats higher

[forest topaz]

WTS seraphine

[distant heron]

WTS Seraphine

[earnest scarab]

it's not trade channel

[shut smelt]

concentraded impact is bugged when we use quick fire ?

when i crit it doesnt apply the debuff

[steel cobalt]

If u can put picture with the best cards for the build to see better could be good 🙂

[red carbon]

How much precision you have? Trying to nerd math the potential dps of precision vs weapon power haha

[oak plank]

what the 30 widsom really do here ? i put all my points into might and didnt felt like i was missing mana

[jagged creek]

well if u use ur aoe spells + witchcraft spells rotation perfectly with cooldows u will miss mana... if ur not missing manas means ur pretty much only doin basic spell + another single targets spells

if thats ur playstyle then u really dont need wisdom

[oak plank]

i only have leech and curse atm from witchcraft because i dont have enough points

maybe because of that, i mostly just nuke aoe and then use quick fire + precision shot to finish it of or in single

[jagged creek]

ye u should always adapt to what u feeling, if u dont need 30 wisdom then dont put, not all the builds are made to strict be followed, somethings might need adaptation for ur own gameplay, that u will feel while playing! this build that this guy made gives a good starting point tho

[vivid crest]

W

[steel cobalt]

after bloodbath passive on warfare what u thinks its better to take as second pasive? bloodseeker or savagery? i have like 25% crit with precision

[earnest scarab]

Savagery for aoe, bloodseeker for single target

@red carbon 41 and 22% crit rate

@steel cobalt problem is that we have only 2 cards that are worth upgrading right on leech and quick fire

[steel cobalt]

the problem is

for aoe dmg only have rains of arrow and earthquake

this build focus more on single target right?

[earnest scarab]

on low lvl u have rain, earthquake, dragon arrow and can take bladestorm

but on/after hadarak u want to swap into single target

until 52/53 effective lvl

[main condor]

What would your single skilltree looks like with passives then ?

[earnest scarab]

in whatever order u want

and pummel from warfare but idk why i cannot choose it on the site

bloodmancer isn't that strong at this point

[steel cobalt]

but until lvl 40, bloodmancer its good right? for sustain

[dusty quiver]

What lvl / # skill point does that require? I’m 47 and don’t think I can get near that full of a tree

[jagged creek]

remove blitz passive from archery, remove this yellow passive from warfare idk the name aswell as berzerker spell, put only leech on witchcraft.. thats what I would do if i have less points

[dusty quiver]

Thanks! Yea I’ve been feeling recently like the witchcraft points aren’t helping me much

[earnest scarab]

Yes

[earnest scarab]

Around 55-60 but passives are optional u can skip few as nact said

Death touch isn't that good too tbh in full might build

U can also take last right skill from archery instead of that

In cost of dt and 2nd passive from witchcraft

Single target has a lot of "optional" according to lvl you're on

And type of monster you're hunting
For melee u want snares/slows/ccs for mages hard ccs/interrupts etc

[harsh vapor]

That's my build today.
Legacy 41 and 1,5KK silver that I want to spend for upgrading my gear.
My gameplay today consists of making ranger companies and tradepacks. I'm not the type of player who likes to explore the game, I try to maximize my time by farming xp and money. I'm at a point in the game where I don't know which way to go, I don't feel my build is strong for either PVP or PVE. I enjoy a lot playing ranged but I can't fight against new ranger companies mobs. For example: Cave Bear, Wolfs, Kaimans.. etc

For the T4 EQ, should I invest in Might + Dex? Might + Vit?
For the T4 EQ should i change for weapon power? I'm already on softcap for Weapon Power and my precision is 38 and impact 10.
I also don't know how to maximize my DOS combo.
My usual playing style is this:

• Shieldbreak + wind arrow (a lot) + dragon arrow + precision shot
  For healing there's 2 options:
• Curse + leech + viper arrow + eternal worms
• Leech + Fisurre + Quickfire

For Skill Tree, where did I shit in this part? I really want to focus on PVP for the new patch.

Any tips for changing ARCH TREE, PVP and PVE are welcome!!!

[static tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBFAIYkINEI

This video might help you a lot

this would not but the best combination of cards as I believe, but still a good insight in case you dont have idea what to do...

[paper yacht]

but he play haste not crit

[earnest scarab]

It's not crit herald

It's haste hybrid

Mid build in my opinion

Theres a lot of weird choices in that build

Like why he plays death touch instead of dragons arrow

When DA has lower cd and higher dmg at that point

It has lower aoe tho but it doesnt matter cuz u dont overpull

Guillotine with shieldbreak(?)

[umbral bough]

What does haste do in the game?

[earnest scarab]

Like why?

[earnest scarab]

Lower cooldowns, channeling time and global cooldown

There's few brackets for that

Mostly used 40/80 haste+ witchcraft passive

Im playing with 40

1.25 global cd is nice

Also he plays leather but without prec

So pointless and no bow

So need to stay closer to mobs

It feels like a lot of time wasting for heling between pulls

[umbral bough]

tell you that I changed my build to the same as the video and I really like it

[earnest scarab]

It works

[umbral bough]

I farm solo and it is very satisfactory

[earnest scarab]

All builds works

It matters only if u look at xp/hr

Either way play what u want

It's good to try out new builds

But i dont see haste usefull before t4/5 items

Especially on lvl lower than 52

[umbral bough]

I decided to change to a hybrid build, because in the late game the items will be cheaper

[earnest scarab]

When u mostly single/duo target

[umbral bough]

I like builds that have a sustained high, I even thought about playing cleric but when hunting he will do very badly

[harsh vapor]

Made a few changes too: leather ser for cloth set and precision for w power

[earnest scarab]

Yeah thats better

Pure weapon power

[harsh vapor]

I had 38 points in precision and it was only 23% of cric chance

[earnest scarab]

I told since 1st day that pure weapon power is the strongest

[harsh vapor]

Sure! Now i’m looking for t4 EQ

With vit/dex and might + w power

[umbral bough]

It's better, but it's also very expensive

I think int helps a lot in this build because leach will heal much more

dex and int

[ivory elbow]

I don’t quite understand that hybrid build. Not taking dragon arrow while investing so heavily into dot damage seems odd.

Rain of arrows into a 0 aether Dragon Arrow (don’t need aether, syncs up cooldown with Rain perfectly) completely destroys 2-3 mobs. I’m not sure why you invest so heavily into dot damage and don’t take the strongest dot in the game 😮

The build also stops pumping weapon power right at soft cap, but you only lose 1 weapon power for quite awhile after softcap. IMO, the spell power isn’t worth it on leech/curse over weapon power with everything else. Savagery/bloodseeker/feasting/brutal/etc all healing more from higher weapon power > leech/curse healing from spell power.

[umbral bough]

where did you not understand? The focus of the hybrid build is to have a middle ground of healing in spell power and weapon power, reducing global coldaws and extracting maximum healing

[static tiger]

right?! I know, this is new video, even tho on comments people were talking about it, why not taking the Dragons arrow lol

[oak shore]

if i go plate will i be much weaker?

[static tiger]

@earnest scarab are you still updating the ravendawn build? the link?

this is the best build so far

[umbral bough]

I disagree

[ivory elbow]

Healing scales with weapon power for all of the following: Bloodbath, Bloodseeker, Savagery, Quickfire + Feasting Strike + Leech w/mushroom, Bloodmancer + Viper arrow, Bloodmancer + Dragon Arrow. The sheer amount of skills scaling with weapon power here is a much higher number than the few that benefit from spellpower (Leech + Curse).

Higher weapon power == higher healing for the majority of the build. Not to mention that most skills and auto attacks also all scale with weapon power. I understand that it might be cheaper to get hybrid might+int T4 gear, but I would still buy might+weapon power T3 gear + attack power / might food and scale everything with weapon power until it hits the red cap (not orange softcap).

This is exactly how @earnest scarab's Herald crit build in this thread is scaling up. Weapon power + crit scale well with the majority of skills used, including auto attacks. Spellpower and haste (over ~20/40) only scale well with a few skills.

[ivory elbow]

I went full plate and I've been fine. Crit isn't as high as I'd like it, but the level 6 ranger neck and all pieces having precision keeps it high enough. Benefit is higher healing and weapon defense 🙂 If I could do it again, I'd probably go leather but it is what it is.

[oak shore]

i just bought all t3 with wep power fuk it lol

but thanks for the info sir

leather

[ivory elbow]

That's a great plan 🙂

[static tiger]

i was planning that

[oak shore]

how did u distribute points 70% might 20% dex 10% vit?

[static tiger]

I am level 46 but I dont have enough silver to buy t4, so not sure if i hold a bit or change all to WP

[oak shore]

im at this point too, but ill try full t3 with wep power

300k piece +-

t4s are 1kk +

[static tiger]

did you buy it:

[paper yacht]

i have T3 wisdom + preci 😦

[static tiger]

how much attack power did you go

[oak shore]

yeah i bought full set wep power, also weapon, idk if i messed up, but the good thing is i soft cap attack damage fast and can add points somewhere else

[static tiger]

might and wp?

lether?

[oak shore]

it capped at 108 might

im 41 effective rn

[oak shore]

ye leather

so i left it on 108 and bumped int dex and vit

idk if this is right but ima test it

[paper yacht]

you don"t have mana issue ?

[oak shore]

we are about to see

if i do ill just remove some int and give it to wis

[oak shore]

this is the one right?

[ivory elbow]

Keep putting points into might. You only lose 1 weapon power for awhile after softcap. Can hover over it to see you only lose 1.

Adding 20 weapon power and getting 19 out of it is worth it 🙂

[ivory elbow]

Don’t feel bad, I have a piece like this too 😭 Saved coin early on and needed a little wisdom anyway. That said, higher quality regen drinks have pretty much eliminated my mana problems.

[paper yacht]

yeah i have a big problem whit money ^^

[oak shore]

roger that!

[earnest scarab]

So much to read

Happy to see that our build is so popular

[simple mountain]

Kami do you dual wield like the video or do you use a bow? I just spent money on dw weps 🥴🥴 build feels good from vid but just felt like it lacked a bit on spenders

To clarify, not your video but the one from tote that ppl referred to earlier

[earnest scarab]

im using bow mainly due to amount of ranged monsters on spots in lvl range 46-55

and when im trying to go near them i simply overpull

waste of time, stress and cause few deaths during lvling

[simple mountain]

True that makes sense. Yea I need to branch off from that build I had seen the video, it interested me but this thread has taken it to the next level

[earnest scarab]

Yes and im also telling that. That's why im focusing on crit rate, 22-25% cr feels nice and imo enough + it's cheaper to build it that way and we can softcap weapon power with food and runes anyway or be near the softcap.

[earnest scarab]

that build from video will be good with lvl 53+ effective

when u jump on our cute little pigs to pull 8 of them and melt them(warhogs lvl 62/63)

[simple mountain]

True, yea I’m like mid 30s heh so I have a while

[earnest scarab]

you'll have less crit rate cuz 8% from leather set is like 30-35 prec for me rn

i'll recommand to try build it with weapon power if u want to use other sets than leather

[earnest scarab]

I was leveling up my offclasses so didn't find much for main class but it's time to use all skillpoints on site so im gonna do it on days

• i need to think about order for few skills + found some nice techs for specific monsters like Dispel, pummel, bull rush etc

[earnest scarab]

it is not cheaper to go hybrid in T4 items. I have might + int with precision T4 items that were worth like 300k and now they're worth around 1kk.
Also all dots have weird interaction with Careful Aim passive cuz if u use it when monster hp is higher than 80% with 20% dmg boost even if monster hp falls under that 80% dot dmg is still boosted cuz this game count moment when u apply dot and doesn't scale it with other effects.

But that's true, the guy from video invested so much into weapon skills and insted of going for crit he goes for spell dmg and haste which is weird on that low lvl

[oak shore]

i got full t3 set leather with wep power +might plus int crystals, it feels ok, im lvl 41 effective, t4 with these stats are 1kk + 😦

[earnest scarab]

u can skip t4s

make your bank for t5 items

T4 only gives u additional main stat which is nice to have but not needed

and 2 more quality rolls

and well avg quality rolls

xD

[oak shore]

yeah, do u think i should wtich to a set with presicion, or im i good with wep power on every piece?

[earnest scarab]

weapon power is fine

[oak shore]

maybe 2 and 2 idk

[oak shore]

cool

thanks 🙂

[earnest scarab]

but try not to overcap it with food, runes etc

if u hit softcap add some points into dex(40 is nice to have)

[oak shore]

yeah thats what is happening

[earnest scarab]

or vitality

[oak shore]

ill have to do that, spend some on dex

[earnest scarab]

this passive and 40 dex points

1.26 gcd

it is worth it and u'll see that u spam more skills than with 1.5gcd

[oak shore]

let me try that, thank you!

[earnest scarab]

if u don't have problems with sustain u can even throw out bloodmancer

and take exploitation

(im doing that on vampires/kaimans)

[earnest scarab]

i have t3/t4 with vit, int too cuz might+prec were too expensive

wisdom was fine cuz we didn't have good drinks for mana regen

now it's still ok but not that much needed

on long runs you'll have problems with mana more than with hp anyway

can't wait too build that herald with precision + impact in t5 items

[mint bramble]

How you guys get a lot of silver, im dying to farm silver

[mint bramble]

I dont use any of witchcraft skills, my sustain come from 3 warfare passives. Its enought for now im lvl 29 efective

[static tiger]

80K lol just got it

[oak shore]

for 80k is very good imo

until u get the one you want, then sell this one maybe

[static tiger]

400k lol still need some silver lol

[earnest scarab]

farming your own mats for tradepacks and farming t4 materials

[mint bramble]

Ill start to farm pack materials, cause farming drops from mobs its killing me

[red carbon]

Nice lol

@earnest scarab I think you dont get the point of the hybrid build. The whole build is about melting with curse and leech and death as well as the physical options. Haste is because its a genrric boost to both dmg type. You have so many ticks from all dots it will stack davagery anyway. So you softcap both eeappn and spell and have insane healing. I agree some skill choices are sus lol Dragon arrow is broken OP full might with witchcraft passives lol

Death is hitting insanely hard. Its 500% spelll power and it applies empowered curse in aoe

BUT you need decent t4 gear and at least 40+ effective. Most likely 50 effective is where it really shines

Ive been playing just plain weapon power all might herald and it slaps lol

Been trying alot of skill builds. Still unsure what is best

[tender moon]

So is it better to build herald with leather + precision or plate/cloth + weapon power?

Is it viable to completely ignore precision and focus on weapon power instead?

[red carbon]

That is what I do. Been working great. I habe never invested in crit so I cant tell if its better

Running precision with savagery seems really good too

[wild ibex]

I’m in weapon power plate and crushing it 💪😎

[earnest scarab]

I told it will be strong after 52/53 eff when u lvl up pulling 6+ mobs

For st it burns way too much mana

And aoe on saurians, kaimans etc is not good option to do

[earnest scarab]

Weapon power is stronger but prec i cheaper to build

Both have nice dmg tho

[red carbon]

I play cloth for the nice haste buff and spell defense

This is something I really enjoy about this game. So many things are good

[earnest scarab]

Yeah and weird is that he's using berserk for crit dmg buff with like 15% cr

[red carbon]

Ya when I tried the build I didnt pick berserk. Haste buff is nice, but if you are not heavy critting, its not that good. BUT it does still increase your dmg a bit for 10 seconds. I'd rather have 5 points somewhere else

Probably add control. Cause his setup had almost no control

[earnest scarab]

Take dragon arrow

Over berserk

[tender moon]

I mixed both now to have 20 crit chance and rest in weapon power. Crit chance scales awfully after 20%

[earnest scarab]

If you're playing the build from video

[earnest scarab]

Yeah i sit on 23%

With 2 items with wp

[tender moon]

Weapon and one armor piece?

Or weapon and neck?

I actually run two variations of this build, one with Witchcraft and one with Protection - both very strong

[earnest scarab]

Prec in weapon

2 armor pieces with wp

[tender moon]

Also honestly if you have great T3 armor pieces with great purple stats, than T4 is just not worth to switch to

[earnest scarab]

Yup

[tender moon]

Weapon I think it’s different story

[earnest scarab]

Especially with +6 main stat roll from quality

Weapon has more base atk but i'd stick with t3 until legacy 55

[tender moon]

Have helmet with +8 extra stats hah

[earnest scarab]

And grab w/e t5 with weapon power or prec

Cuz well 16 base atk

Is a lot

[tender moon]

So skip T4?

[earnest scarab]

Thats what i'll do

My t4s are from gambling crafting anyway so xD

[tender moon]

Do you infuse weapon to mythic?

[delicate umbra]

what to take from prestige shop ??

[earnest scarab]

Nope im making money for t5 bow

Need like 15kk at least for now

[earnest scarab]

Might rings
Depends if going for prec then neck with prec if not then take attack power

[tender moon]

15kk ?!

I hope it’s at least with great stats

[earnest scarab]

Might dex with wp and prec

[tender moon]

oh yea, I would pay that much than, especially with some juicy purple stats. Might / Dex or Might / Vit

[earnest scarab]

24 might would be nice xD

It can have 7 quality so

[tender moon]

yea, but you know, some items have 1/x crystals done or it will be Mana regen, heal power crap

for 15M I would expect BIS bow

[earnest scarab]

We had bis on market

For 15kk

[paper yacht]

1 prec give just 0.3% crit ? or rise down ?

[glacial birch]

whats the best rotation for single target and aoe for this build?

[oak shore]

if i have full weapon power set, should i stack a weapon power rune to my bow? or go presicion rune?

[earnest scarab]

Something aroud 0.25 i'd say but i dont remember correct value and u lose 0.2% per effective lvl
@vini.10 doesn't matter much as long as u use few spells together like leech+feasting+quick for healing, shieldbreak+quick for bonus dmg, viper+dragon+ worms for healing etc. And start with dots
Rest are just random bullshit and it works

[earnest scarab]

From runes wp is best

Is there precision rune?

[oak shore]

yeah

[earnest scarab]

I only saw 60prec one i think

[oak shore]

+16 presicion

[earnest scarab]

Bow specific rune

[oak shore]

for the weapon

[earnest scarab]

Weapon power is better

16 isn't much

And for 20 wp u need 40 might so

[oak shore]

ok, thanks!

[paper yacht]

stack so much preci is not very good i see

[earnest scarab]

Being around 20% is enough

We'll stack as much as we can with t5s

Cuz bis will be wp+prec due to double secondary stat

Or even +60 precision bow rune

Idk if it wasn't fake but i saw ss on some guild discord with that rune

[strange wedge]

amassando no pve, pvp ate 1vs2 ta dando pra fazer

[inner latch]

I heard dagger/axe is bis in t4 for herald?

[red carbon]

Its honestly hard to say what's bis. Dagger has a nice crit rate buff. Bows have the auto attack speed. Swords would give a nice shield. Lightblades hace a cc removal. In the end, pick whatever R you prefer

[steel cobalt]

what means bis? best option?

[vast dirge]

Best in Slot

[glacial birch]

bow with haste works good or only with wp/precision?

[earnest scarab]

i'd rather go for wp/prec

[elfin plover]

well time to swap bow for gs with new guts outfit 😄

[muted pelican]

Which bow?

[tender moon]

Imo both are bad. Green stat should be precision or weapon power

[glacial birch]

so much expensive 😦

[drifting hatch]

@earnest scarab sry za ping ale mam teraz zwyklego heralda na 30lvl i chce sie jakos ukierunkowac i masz podeslac jakie skille najlepiej wybrac czy cos zmienic i co szukać w zbroi,broni i jaki typ zbroi https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207688596438388751/1210609307096322049/image.png?ex=65eb2ec6&is=65d8b9c6&hm=ba3654ae2b72e53d2c4bcad65551af5d27ebe3626d24eec363b07c089a0cd583&

[elder veldt]

@earnest scarab I'm level 26, not much silver, still using tier 2 with might. The tier 3 items with WP/Prec are insanenly priced, will I be ok for awhile without having to purchase them?

[mint bramble]

Im using t3 wisdow with precision

[earnest scarab]

https://ravendawndb.com/en/build/4188-crit-herald-earlymid-game

[earnest scarab]

Buy t3 without might like vit/dex/wis is fine with prec/wp

[drifting hatch]

sam poszukałem i znalazłem ale i tak dzięki <3

[harsh vapor]

Tell me more... rs

I'm trying to change this one for a full might + wpower.. but it's quite difficult. This one already has the Rune +20

[red carbon]

This a great bow. Def keep it. Get weapon power on other pieces

[earnest scarab]

u can use it with prec

it's nice bow anyway

[harsh vapor]

Since this group is about Heral Build... i'm selling this EQ in SERAFINE

[narrow echo]

@earnest scarab Hey, have you done a Ravendawndb buils setup with all explanation on it ? and wich spells to get in order ?

[earnest scarab]

https://ravendawndb.com/en/build/4188-crit-herald-earlymid-game

[narrow echo]

30 WISDOM
MIGHT until softcapping attack power
VITALITY or INT after softcap on attack power. I really prioritize 30 wisdom ?

[earnest scarab]

if u need yes

we didn't have food for mana regen back then

now it's not needed that much

[narrow echo]

you refer to rum right ?

[earnest scarab]

yes

[dusty quiver]

I crafted a might, int, weapon power and I’m tempted to use it myself, and might be nice as I get into 50s if I go more hybrid, but also could probably sell it and get a cheaper but also good one 🤷‍♂️

[dusty quiver]

Thoughts on which cards to upgrade? Most impactful ones?

[narrow echo]

Daggers, Bow(best in slot), Light blade(adaptive damage) Why is bow bis ?

Pref leather 4p / plate 4p for tankiness but need precision on all items. Wich one is best? 4p plate until t4? or inverse?

[prisma elk]

Bow is BiS because you will lose dps if you are using a melee weapon while "kiting" enemies, since apparently high level enemies have a stronger melee attack than ranged attack so you kinda want to "kite" to avoid taking more damage than needed.
If you are not going to "kite" then it doesnt matter if you go dagger/lightblade instead.

[narrow echo]

I get it, but with upcoming changes to ranged mobs being more present, shouldnt you opt for melee ? Like kit melee mobs to ranged ones then AOE

[prisma elk]

Good question. Honestly your weapon prob wont matter much if you are mobbing since most of the damage will come from AOE and you will have to stay on melee range so enemies wont leave the AOE range. I heard that mobbing at 50+ is difficult tho, because of the high amount of damage enemies are doing at that level.

[earnest scarab]

for lvls 35-53 you're mainly single target

or later on you're pulling like 3/4 mobs

[earnest scarab]

It's hard to tell which are best when both works good

[earnest scarab]

Still melee mobs have 1 ranged attack that deals less dmg than their melee auto attack so kiting is still better at least before 53 effective

after 53 u go aoe on hogs so dagger+other 1h weapon will be best

[earnest scarab]

That's the problem i have myself cuz most of cards are not that impactful at all but for now i upgraded:
-Hoghound Archer - Quick Fire,
-Rubycap Mushroom - leech
-Troll Warlock - death touch
-Polar Bear - Feasting Strike

Skeleton Rotclub on shieldbreak looks nice too

[earnest scarab]

Also the thing about wisdom
I tried duo exp with healer and imo especially for duo play Might until softcap -> rest points in wisdom works much better than going for int/vit/dex

My duo had no problem with either healing us with 6+ mobs pack and he didn't have any issues with mana while we had to take breakes after 2/3 packs cuz i had literally 0 mana even while using siphon

[static tiger]

I still dont have mushroom card

[earnest scarab]

By the way

https://ravendawndb.com/en/build/4188-crit-herald-earlymid-game

update

idk why i cannot choose pummel in skill tree

pummel, bull rush doesn't work on site at least for me

[copper basalt]

I suggest making your t3 as strong as possible. T4s are expensive cause it's not in huge supply , I'd wait for it to be made more

[dusty quiver]

On that note, I’m selling this on seraphine if interest haha

[dusty quiver]

@earnest scarab do you think this piece would be good for to just use and plan for long term as it’ll help having some int in higher 50s?.. or better to sell and find a diff piece with vit or dex?

[earnest scarab]

yes it's fine

starting from 52 effective

we'll need something in int

due to aoe leveling

curse from death touch scales with it at least

[dusty quiver]

Okay nice Thank you. Maybe I’ll just use it if I don’t get a bite

[earnest scarab]

i have might int items with precision too

[dusty quiver]

Nice. As I’ve upgraded my gear I ended up losing most of my precision so I’ll have to find some precision pieces in t4 as I slowly acquire them

Or just spend millions infusions my bow further, that has precision

[earnest scarab]

im using bow and 2 armor pieces with prec

enough to get 20% cr

[dusty quiver]

I have 20% right now actually too

Ahh I have boots with precision

And hunter pendant with 10

[elder veldt]

What is the soft cap for might and dex for this build ?

[dusty quiver]

Might is I believe 7 x effective level

[amber meadow]

I'm at 46 effective, still able to cap both wpn and spell power and at 22% crit chance

Capping both at higher effective levels gets quite expensive

Just letting some ppl know, u will probs eventually ignore capping spell power

And use witchcraft more for the healing/passives

[static tiger]

Share your itens please ?

[harsh vapor]

Selling on Serafine server

[wind nova]

maybe someone here will be interested... I have for Sale on angerhorn:

[static tiger]

Guys this is not market place.

[ivory elbow]

Yeah, let’s keep the sale posts in #💰┃trading please.

[tidal raptor]

How good is impact in this build? I have 19.5 crit chance and got an impact piece for cheap, I don't know if to use it or sell it.

[red carbon]

Its pretty good. Having 1 imapct piece definitively wont hurt!

[tidal raptor]

Nice! Good to know, thank you!

[red carbon]

The only issue is if your crit gets too low, your impact will loose value. But 20% aint too shabby

[tidal raptor]

Got it! I will take it into account, I will improve precision a little bit more, Thank you,

[quick tinsel]

Would a great sword work for this build to or is bow just better?

[dusty quiver]

@earnest scarab @red carbon Have to pick between these 2 i crafted. weapon power is weapon power.. but having precision is nice and vit i like, and then i can make more money off the weapon power one haha. hard to choose

[earnest scarab]

ye it will

[earnest scarab]

depends if u have 20% cr already then take wp

[dusty quiver]

Yea I do but once I replace my t3 boots I will need the extra precision. So if I take WP here I’ll need precision there and vise versa

[quick tinsel]

so should all my gear be might at t3 or like can i go for other stats and still be good?

[earnest scarab]

Might is bis but u can go for others

Dex/vit/wisdom are fine

[glacial birch]

to up my others archertypes, which one can I exchange?

[earnest scarab]

witchcraft/archery(and go full int using spells from withcraft)

[glacial birch]

ignore might?

[earnest scarab]

well im lvling them using crafting

so im not sure if it would work tho

but u can throw away witchcraft

warfare is good enough for sustain anyway

[glacial birch]

other question, in the build can I get wisdom from any piece of the set until beat 30 wisdom?

[earnest scarab]

u can

but u can also use Rum f.ex

i added wisdom in early due to not having good mana regen food

but still it isn't enough

so wisdom is fine

[glacial birch]

full leather w/ full might is so expensive

[red carbon]

But might int leather t4 is fairly cheap

[earnest scarab]

Yeah

[earnest scarab]

I had wisdom/int in t3's

Wisdom is nice even on higher lvl cuz u mainly have problems with the mana not hp

But int+might is bis cuz u can swap to magic classes too

[glacial birch]

im easily overcap my weapon power, its ok or i need to changing some points?

[willow sequoia]

happy to read this cause I was thinking bout switching classes and I have Int/Might gear

can u send me the build link kami ? I cant find it, too many messages

[earnest scarab]

https://ravendawndb.com/en/build/4188-crit-herald-earlymid-game

[earnest scarab]

Nah

if u overcap wp just go for dex

u can take passive in witchcraft for 10% global cd
With 40+ dex it scales nice

[glacial birch]

Int is not better? Witchcraft skilla

[earnest scarab]

cuz 1.25 gcd compared to 1.5 is a lot

[earnest scarab]

imo 40 dex first is better

[glacial birch]

Ok ill do

[earnest scarab]

we don't need that much spell power anyway

cuz there's only 4 skills from witchcraft

[harsh vapor]

fastest way to up effective archetypes??

[earnest scarab]

hunting monsters 16hr/day

[mint bramble]

Hunts a lot, and when u gonna logoff change ur arquetypes to inactives and colect urs things from land

[earnest scarab]

and do crafting

everyday till oversupply

[lunar jungle]

any pro Herald can tell me if the Curse card thats increase dmg per tick, also improves the Healing?

[foggy niche]

Yes, but it's just some small healing more, 10% of is not too much

[harsh vapor]

weaving already on 36, but it's getting more expensive each level

[earnest scarab]

it is what it is

it will be only worse

im getting bored with the game already

like economy doesn't exists

if you're behind with crafting lvl you can't make money out of it

[lunar jungle]

on Viper Arrow, which card to use? the one who changes to spell power does more dmg, but the other card idk how to do the math lol

[earnest scarab]

u change it's dmg to spell power if you're going for spell power build instead of wp

otherwise use stacking dmg

[forest topaz]

why inteligence after softcap instead of overcap weapon power or dex to soft cap?

its the curse dmg doing so much?

[earnest scarab]

Curse alone not but int scales with curse, leech, worms, death touch

And on higher lvl(52-75) you'll be hunting groups of monsters not single target

[tender moon]

How will you manage to do that?

Our only reliable AoE is rain of arrows

Unless i am missing something

[red carbon]

Dragon arrow is a very potent aoe as well. Bht it requires setup to line a few mobs in it and they wont stay the whole time. With fissure you can stun 4 mobs in line and dragon arrow on the farthest in line to hit the whole group

[earnest scarab]

Rain, dragons arrow, death touch, fissure, bladestorm, earthquake

Probably bull rush with that chain skill

We'll have good aoe cc chain

Fissure -> rush -> jump

The problem will be dmgwise

Cuz im not sure if we manage to do the same dmg as wizard there

• im only 47 effective

Cuz im lvling offarchetypes too

Thats why we go for dex after might cuz that cdr/gcdr is strong af after 52

[tidal raptor]

Why do I struggle with mages mobs so much? Skeleton mage, orc mage and now the female vampire, especially the leech like skill they have drains my life like it's nothing, meanwhile otrher mobs are no problem at all, I am effective level 37, with a full T4 heroic set might/int/precision (just 1 piece with impact), I went full might but still have 50 in int from items. Is my spell defense too low? What am I doing wrong?

[earnest scarab]

It's not only for you xD

I played hexwarden with my friend's items

And it was painful too

Mage mobs are just stronger

Cuz they have good range dmg while melee mobs don't

[tidal raptor]

I did not mention it but I go melee with the axe, the extra aoe is nice and it was cheap, I can tank pretty much anything except mage, I have to kill them as fast as I can or I die, and now the female vampire a just sucking me dry with their life drain, and there are tons of them not like before with only one mage every few mobs.

[restive cloak]

what is stat should i prio? full might then?

[tidal raptor]

Yes, full might until you cap

[earnest scarab]

Might > dex(40/80 points)>int/wisdom

[earnest scarab]

There's not much we can do about it anyway

u can try playing in cloth

or give more points into dex but it doesn't do much

[restive cloak]

how to know cap on might?

[earnest scarab]

you weapon power stat will be yellow

[restive cloak]

noted bro

[earnest scarab]

yellow/orange something between those colors

[restive cloak]

thank you so much

[tidal raptor]

Yeah, I will have to suffer through it, changing my items is no go, I already went broke with that I have, thank you anyways

[earnest scarab]

im not telling u to change them

buy 2nd set

that's the problem i have too

but it is what it is

all mages in this game are strong af either mobs or players

[tidal raptor]

Buying the set is not that much of a problem, but infusion is, I don't know how viable is to have 2 sets, but is still an interesting idea, why cloth tho? Spell defense?

[earnest scarab]

yes for spell defense since u don't need it for every monsters

u can use it just for those where u can fight mages

but yeah infusions are crazy pricewise rn

[tidal raptor]

I might just lower might in favor of some int or vit, I don't remember right now if vit gives spell defense

[earnest scarab]

it gives hp so it's fine anyway

[red carbon]

I was playing in cloth and mages were alot easier. Just swapped to leather and I feel it lol

Now I just dragon arrow fissure them and kill them quick

[tidal raptor]

The 8% crit from leather is just too sweet to let it go.

[red carbon]

And with decent crit rate, berserk kinda feels good

Didnt end up taking savagery. Just feels like it not doing much

[tidal raptor]

I kept thinking that fissure might solve my problem if I stun the mob when they cast the life drain ability.

[simple mountain]

Pretty sure soft cap is your level times 7 right? Unless I am misremembering

[earnest scarab]

yes

[restive cloak]

does this build has aoe?

sorry really new to game

but i love the concept of this build

this is where iam currently at hehe

[main condor]

should i look for bow with prec? or thats alright with this setup ?

[jagged creek]

u need to go for some impact.. if ur crit chance is too high but ur crit dmg is low, then it makes no sense u know

[earnest scarab]

no u don't

impact is useless before t5 items

[earnest scarab]

if u have around 20% crit rate go for weapon power

and that items looks fine imo

u have good stat rolls

and haste is nice so u don't need that much dex

[jagged creek]

well i disagree but its fine anyways, ur topic

[earnest scarab]

weapon power + dex from stats is better at this point

[jagged creek]

but then its better to use cloth instead of leather

[earnest scarab]

and go for prec in every item?

[jagged creek]

if ur goin for full dex weapon power cloth has infinite more sinergy then leather

[earnest scarab]

cuz u cannot get 20%

who told about full dex?

that line

when im talking about going for dex i mean this

not full dex

[jagged creek]

yea got u

u do what feels better for u and ofc this is thread for ur build so i will let u give the tips, my bad

[earnest scarab]

u have 2 thresholds in dex 40 and 80 haste points

more than that is useless

well your opinion has value too

i just don't understand full dex build

[jagged creek]

I just feel like even on t4 (that iam using now) my crits arent that worth

[earnest scarab]

it doesn't seems powerfull enough

[jagged creek]

if I compare to cloth users with full weapon power

[earnest scarab]

that's why i told even in guide on site that we can build cloth/plate with full weapon power and then dex

[jagged creek]

the constancy of dmg

[earnest scarab]

instead of prec

[jagged creek]

yeap i know, not saying ur wrong

saying what iam experiencing rn

[earnest scarab]

and yeah it is stronger than crits

but anyway in t5s you'll go for weapon power + prec

[jagged creek]

yeap

[earnest scarab]

like every build xD

so prices will be huge af for those items

[jagged creek]

iam curious tho how herald would be with full weapon power + spellpower build on t5

on clot$

cloth

[earnest scarab]

good for aoe i guess

but imo builds with x+prec would be better

cuz now full weapon power/spell power builds are best

and you'll have that 20-25% crit rate with it or even more with passives/cards

on wizard builds impact will be good too due to cr stacking passive

[red carbon]

You are way too low to dip in 3 trees lol That build looks terrible. Ditch witchcraft for now and get bloodbath from warfare for sure. Also, level all your archetypes to level 10. You'll gain an extra skill point for each. Until you ahve alot more skill points, play only archery warfare and get all those archetypes to 10

Witchcraft is a really amazing support tree, but when you have so little, it doesnt support much

[red carbon]

Been leving my low level wiz past day and the crit gear feels amazing with Havoc passive. You just stack it up so fast

wtf is wrong with wiz/witchcraft together. Lvl 35 eff, getting 2.5k dmg Death touch crits while my gear is full might weapon power

and auto crit piro is kinda busted.

A guildy had mats for 2 T5 bow. First one was hot garbage. Second, he got weapon power precision, with 3 crystals on + Precision. im so jalous

[restive cloak]

what would be the best path? lol

ty ty

should i go with dagger or bow? really new

[red carbon]

Taking quickfire, precision shot, earthquake bloodbath and the other warefare passive that heals for 15% of the basic attack you do (forgot the name)

I went to level 40 effective never using a skill outside warfare or archery lol

[restive cloak]

just prio the warfare passive over archery?

and should i go dagger? all i have is this bow lol

[red carbon]

Bow is great. Daggers are good too. Depending if you play at range or more melee. But even melee range bow is still great

all it changes is the r ability and the range of you auto attacks

[glacial birch]

Witchcraft combo is really good for heal too, its like using a pot every combo

[red carbon]

Though dagger R is amazing with berserk

[lunar jungle]

i have some new questions, on some builds they have Savagery passive, but i feel like its disturbing the combo with Curse, Viper and Dragon, can anyone confirm?

[wild ibex]

And the use of certain skills, ie shieldbreak can be used from range with a bow, with the card that stacks the def debuff.

[tranquil bough]

Is Herald dead now?

[earnest scarab]

Hybrid, yes kinda
Crit/melee we don't care much about nerfs xD

Curse/leech nerf are w/e
Dmg from death touch - we use it for aoe curse
Worms - well that's painful but it is what it is

But we got buffs on warfare

Bladestorm worth using again

[atomic stone]

maybe change from herald to bloodthrall ?

[formal grotto]

What happened?

[earnest scarab]

Balance patch

[formal grotto]

what will change? I've not seen.

[earnest scarab]

Nerfs to witchcraft curse/leech/death touch and dot passive
Buffs to warfare

Doesn't change much to us

Our sustain wasn't from leech anyway so

We got buffed on feasting strike

Ngl hexwarden got touched xD

[lunar jungle]

i use feasting strike with Polar Bear card, have to test now, another card to spend Aether doesn't sound good to me

[red carbon]

and bersker

Hex garden aoe farming got gutted lol

[amber meadow]

well I was hybrid capped

might go the expensive route of getting might/anything but wisdom + wp power t4 parts

or vit dex wp power, etc

[vivid lark]

so still we can sit on witchcraft or maybe try shadow instead?

[red carbon]

we'll have to try. The dot dmg passive is really strong anyway

we were not healing that much from leech anyway so it won't affect the build muhc

Shackles was super OP. Now its less OP.

[foggy niche]

Maybe switch to fighter, depends on how weak Will be witchcraft on the build

[forest topaz]

i asume we will no longer go int now

[warm kraken]

Wow, i just spent a mil swapping full hybrid... Crap

I'll give it a shot still, hopefully it's not that bad...

[zenith rock]

also

[red carbon]

but leech was already doing very little dmg with the 30 int I had. I don't think I'll see that much of a difference

dawn arrows auto attack buff are still the same

[zenith rock]

i was thinking about bloodthrall or cabalist, but both was nerfed (witchcraft and wizardry)

[warm kraken]

So, the big nerf im referring to is the 10% less dmg on the dots dmg passive

Now every dot do 10% less dmg (including viper arrow and the crit dot from warfare)

Also im capped on weap power and almost capped on spell power, but now the "spell power" part of my build is very bad

W/e i guess we have to try and see

[zenith rock]

same to me

[zenith rock]

if doesn't change too much, i wont care

[warm kraken]

Lol i finally find a build that i love to grind on and we get this... I really hope is not as bad as im imagining it to be...

I've spent every penny i earn on swapping builds, finally i like one and BAM! Hahaha

[forest topaz]

the "nerf" is buffing this build imo

just take less from wch

[warm kraken]

I can do that, but then why build spell power at all

[forest topaz]

that the best part you dont

[strange glen]

can someone tell me how much i have to invest in INT? I think ill go for might, a little VIT and DEX until i have global cooldown 1.2 seconds?

[warm kraken]

Yup, too late for me, 1.3m in gear

I'll try to make it work

[strange glen]

lets do tradepack together hhaa

[forest topaz]

so stay with it its minor neft

nerf

[zenith rock]

i didnt invest any point in int

[forest topaz]

i will sugest to avoid int for now

[warm kraken]

Ye, i get it, not so minor, but I'll make it work. It's just that they wanted to nerf AOE and hit dot single target hard

[zenith rock]

i bought items with might as the primary attribute and spell power as second

[red carbon]

Ya cursed touch passive was my main reason for gping witchcraft. Maybe Ill drop it for shadoe

[strange glen]

so using witchcraft only for passiv dot and skilling warfare and second archery

[warm kraken]

We'll see, i guess it's still not bad

[red carbon]

The 10% healijg from dots was also reallly good

[strange glen]

yeah man

[red carbon]

Dragon arrow on 3 ennemies made you heal so fast

[zenith rock]

yeah

[forest topaz]

its 3rd passive to get on wch imo

[warm kraken]

So, the healing one, the dot dmg one, the dmg under 50% (which got buffed), the armor reduction one and the global cd one, are all good reasons (still) for witchcraft

We just need to figure ir out

[foggy niche]

witchcraft has some top tier passives, but the skills good for herald got nerfed, now idk if it's worth wasting so many points for so little

[bronze quiver]

all the good stuff for herald still there, the leech card/passives/mirror image/ eternal worms still can steal AP

[red carbon]

I agree. But if we need to spend 20 skill points that are mostly useless now to get it, there might be better options in other trees

[warm kraken]

Ofc, we'll have to try and see. Hopefully they didn't kill Herald builds

[tender moon]

I am running the fighter variant with protection and also sometimes variant with spiritual - works well

[atomic stone]

bloodthrall feels good although

[vivid lark]

I swapped witchcraft into shadow for crit chance passive and try out venomous weapons after changes

[red carbon]

Shadow blade with the extra dmg from aether that removes the bleed is ALOT of dmg

[vivid lark]

u mean shadow strike ?

[red carbon]

ah yes lol

with bersker on, it crits for ridiculous dmg

[vivid lark]

yup

[red carbon]

Shadow lacks some healing, but it has a really good cc. Permanent death to the enemy. Reducing the dmg you take

[vivid lark]

guess I will check this variation rn with full leather set with 3 precision and 2 weapon power gear (for single target farm)

[earnest scarab]

2 skills nerfed and class is dead?

we got nerfed only on leech dmg(we play it mainly for passive from card). death touch dmg which is whatever due to high cd and healing from worms

they reverted buff on cursed touch so it doesn't matter much

but creeping death looks strong now

[warm kraken]

We are just discussing, once we try we'll know

[earnest scarab]

imo those nerfs are mainly for wizard+witchcraft, for our spec which is using it for passives anyway it doesn't change much

sustain from warfare is good enough for single target

[warm kraken]

Ye, we all hope so, ofc

[earnest scarab]

and warfare buffs are nice for us

[warm kraken]

I feel like trying hatred, but idk what to drop

[earnest scarab]

savagery

[warm kraken]

Mmm my build is dot focused, might drop the auto attack heal passive

[earnest scarab]

imo not worth

but u can try

[warm kraken]

I'll play around with it all today

[foggy niche]

Testing this rn, with full leather t4 with might/vit/impact/precision, feeling strange because it don't have the insane sustain but i'm liking

Making lures of 3 - 4 mobs on my lvl range

While AoE is on cd, i kill mobs 1v1 safely with precision shot and quickfire

[tender moon]

You want the banner with healing card - it’s insane

[foggy niche]

i can test, let me see the rarity of my card

oh, it's common, shiet

Anyway, if someone want to try, this build needs haste, you need to spam skills

On mobs of the same level is working pretty well

Approved on hags too

[tender moon]

what is your rotation?

[foggy niche]

Spirit shield > Blessed earth > Berserk > Rain of Arrows (until channeling end, the aether is generated) > Earthquake > Fissure > Dragon Arrow. If something alive use single target, if 2 or more alive use Bladestorm

You can use Unbreakable on strong mobs lure too, to generate aether and tank the hits

You can use Earthquake > Fissure > Dragon Arrow > Bladestorm on weak mobs too

[tender moon]

Well I am low effective level so cannot have that many skills - this is my build rn

applied the missing card to berserk

[foggy niche]

I'm feeling fissure is reeeally good, but it's okay if you don't have points

[tender moon]

also missing the passives

[foggy niche]

Berserk card i like only the direbear, the aether generation is ultra important to the combo

[tender moon]

divine purposes seems like a great passive

[foggy niche]

It's nice to get some tankiness

[tender moon]

how much Haste I should have?

[foggy niche]

1.3 global cd is safe

1.2 is meta, but it's too many points

better have dmg to kill them

[foggy niche]

my build is like this, i'm feeling the need of haste, but i prefer to do dmg

[foggy niche]

Seens good

[tender moon]

feels like too much dex 😄

[foggy niche]

haha, needs to test

[tender moon]

but I am capped on Weapon power anyway

[foggy niche]

if you feel weak, put some on might and fuck it

[tender moon]

Also I feel like T4 items are really not worth it 😦

[foggy niche]

I'm thinking to go plate and axe, but it's too much cash and i already sitting on my t4 leather

but precision loses scaling whit lvls, and this is really shitty

[tender moon]

This is what I am running rn

Pants are cracked

[foggy niche]

Your build is nice, don't need to rush t4

wait the prices go down

[tender moon]

wonder if it is worth pushing to get T3 mythic bow

[foggy niche]

nah, heroic is safe

[tender moon]

it has 44 base attack

so 8 more than what I have currently

Found a picture somewhere in internet

[foggy niche]

nah, too much cash

look at mine XD

[lunar jungle]

my herald weapon lmao

[foggy niche]

also, impact rune is trash, don't buy

[tender moon]

oh yea that I know 😛

Attack power all the way

[tender moon]

looks solid

[lunar jungle]

my basic atks are a joke haha

[tender moon]

really, at lvl 50 effective? 😲

[foggy niche]

I'm thinking about going to 2h axe for more area dmg, so i'm sitting at this shit bow xD

[foggy niche]

legacy 60 btw hahahaha

[tender moon]

damm you are torturing yourself

[tender moon]

should I get Fissure or Bladestorm from abilities next?

[foggy niche]

fissure

just too good

i recommend using this to hit always

[tender moon]

wait what 😄

[zenith rock]

I use it that way too

haha

[foggy niche]

oh wow, they buffed flame tornado xD

fuck it, etup and abak commands the game

[tender moon]

well flame tornado was nerfed too much and became useless

now at least it has some use

so I will go with my next skill points: Fissure > Bladestorm > Divine Purpose (passive) > Marked for Death (passive) > Guardian (passive) > Careful Aim (passive)

that will keep me busy for a while

[lunar jungle]

this is my actual build, i want to remove some archery and get Bladestorm

[red carbon]

Take off some passives lol

The eye thing is really underwhelming

[foggy niche]

If you want bladestorm you need to remove: Disengage, Clear Focus, Clever Adaptation.
Than get Bladestorm and Berserk.

Berserk will generate the aether you need to cover clear focus, and clever adaptation is meh when you want to get melee to bladestorm

[red carbon]

Clever is amazing for the cc duration increase

but its not mandatory

[foggy niche]

No need to cc when enemy is dead

[lunar jungle]

disengage and Pummel are still not enough to hunt Saurians and Kaimans lol

[prisma elk]

Probably the only way to use fissure properly lol.

[red carbon]

ah interesting

I was just doing ctrl- A then hitting fissure

[west bronze]

Is this build full pvp ?

[restive cloak]

can some1 share some stats here? thank you

[lunar jungle]

we got 10% back on eternal worms, not bad...

[red carbon]

Not really. This is more a pve centric build I'd say. Still very strong for pvp though. A full pvp build would require more cc and control

But there is no pvp content right now

[west bronze]

Great, I'm more interested in a PVE

[earnest scarab]

it's good enough for tradepack ganking but welp

dead content anyway

there's not much for pvp in those archetypes anyway

[west bronze]

Yeah, it seems like everything is on hold until tuesday

[earnest scarab]

if u want to use it in pvp i'd recommand to swap witchcraft into shadow cuz it's kit is way better for that

but im not pvp player so idk how it would work

[west bronze]

I was mostly looking for info.

Started the game recently, with friends and I'm still wondering what I want to play

[glacial birch]

Any changing in the build?

[earnest scarab]

not yet

[eager ocean]

I’m struggling in mid game (lvl 42), idk what has changed but i’m lacking sustain badly

[quick tinsel]

Is bow still bis for herald?

[west bronze]

Leech who got nerfed might be an answer.
They will rebalance the game and we should see some changes on tuesday, but can't tell how big those changes will be

[eager ocean]

Yes i figured, but i mean yesterday follow the build was working just fine, now it is almost unplayable… dying for weaker mobs then i was killing yesterday.
Just a heads up that mid game player will need to work around this build

[oak shore]

im lvl 48 killing kaimanz and leech with mushroom card is still ok

[west bronze]

The update was today after all

[oak shore]

combo feasting strike>leech>shieldbreak>rapiid fire = full hp heal when 1/4 hp

[quick tinsel]

Leach did t heal that much on its own

All the dots do

[eager ocean]

Yes i’m not complaining nor anything just sharing it cuz other player around my level could also be struggling

Mu build is shitty btw

I mean my set

[quick tinsel]

You have witchcraft passive that heals from dots yea?