Is the a hosting or db issue?

[hardy matrix]

Are you using a file based database?

example: sqlite

Railway's filesystem isn't persistent. If you create a new deployment, all changes made by your code will get deleted.

You'll have to use a remote database. (redis, mongo, postgres, mysql)

[floral otter]

oh, a friend told me smth like that

[floral otter]

so practically, it doesnt update the db or file, it just kinda like, runs it?

[hardy matrix]

It does update

but everytime you make a new deployment

filesystem is deleted

[floral otter]

is a deployment done manually by me, or is it done automatically?

also if the bot some how stops or goes down and comes back up, is that also seen as a deployment?

[hardy matrix]

• railway up
• git commit
• changing environment variables
• changing builder
• rollback

all of these trigger a new deployment ^

[hardy matrix]

If you are restarting it no

but if you are rolling it back yes

[floral otter]

but whats weird is, it didnt restart or like, rollback or nth, it just some way some how went on reset mode. The bot is running, i make changes and then leave it. I use buttons that have no timeout so they dont stop unless the bot does. But i come back, see the buttons have stopped, and when i run the cmd again, the db some how reverts back to the first stage

I think i gotta use or learn how to use sql for now

sql browser can work on this right?

[hardy matrix]

btw railway has their own database viewer

but any other database browser should work too

if they support postgres/mysql

https://docs.railway.app/databases/database-view

[floral otter]

I didnt know

thats kl

imma check it out rn

[floral otter]

im not allowed to ping you?

[hardy matrix]

yeah, automod blocks it

[floral otter]

anyway, could you help me with this pls

i verified with my acc yesterday

why is it saying this now

[hardy matrix]

bug

[floral otter]

lmao

[hardy matrix]

what's your github username?

[floral otter]

Yellowtapes

[hardy matrix]

this https://github.com/yellowtapes, right?

[floral otter]

yep

[hardy matrix]

Your github needs to have some activity in order to qualify for free plan

[hardy matrix]

mb, not a bug

You can link your card to verify using that

[floral otter]

fr? I waited for months just so i could sign up for the things, as in railway, cause they said my acc was too young

[hardy matrix]

yeah

180 days + some activity

[floral otter]

i really would, but i dont have a credit card just as yet....

[hardy matrix]

you can even use your debit card

[floral otter]

no like, i have no cards...like none

i dont even have my id as yet

im trying to get them now as a matter of fact

[hardy matrix]

you won't be able to use railway without a card or a github account with some activity

😦

[floral otter]

when you say activity, what do you mean

what can i do to make it active

[hardy matrix]

create repos, make commits, fork repos, create issues etc

[floral otter]

I dont really know how to use github that much so

[floral otter]

oh

what are repos?

ig i have to yt and google it all

ok, after i do those, can it then work?

[hardy matrix]

yeah

https://github.com/es183923

example of an active github account ^

[floral otter]

oh

do i have to wait like, do i have to do this over time

[hardy matrix]

over time

[floral otter]

cant you just bypass me, cause its not like im doing anything malicious 😭😭

[hardy matrix]

there's no way to verify that 😦

[floral otter]

you have my token

wdym

and you have access to my files and data

[hardy matrix]

multiple people in the past have deployed crypto miners after angelo verified them manually

[floral otter]

so you can see exactly what i coded

[hardy matrix]

Yeah, but railway doesn't scan them yk

[floral otter]

crypto miners?

[hardy matrix]

yeah

people who mine crypto on railway

[floral otter]

thats possible?

what the hell

[hardy matrix]

it's against railway's fair-use policy

[floral otter]

sigh

[hardy matrix]

what's possible?

[floral otter]

the good must suffer for the bad ig

[hardy matrix]

yeah

[floral otter]

idk, crypto mining

[hardy matrix]

sadly 😦

[floral otter]

idk how it works but yh

ill learn how to use git

make a couple things and try again

[hardy matrix]

you can try asking your friends/parents for a card

(if that's possible)

[floral otter]

i could, but personally i dont like doing that, cause if smth goes wrong, its on me

and i have nth to give back

and i cant replace it either

[floral otter]

mhh, what happens when i use a card?

it said you guys will ask for 1 dollar to make sure the acc is real or active

right?

[hardy matrix]

yup & then railway refunds it immediately

[hardy matrix]

You can buy specific amount of credits if you want

railway won't auto-charge them that way

[floral otter]

buy specific credit?

wdym

[hardy matrix]

Railway has two types of payment plans -
one is postpaid where railway auto-charges & another one is prepaid you can pay railway $5 & use RAM/CPU worth $5 without the fear of getting auto-charged

[floral otter]

how much is $5 in JM currency

wait let me check

[hardy matrix]

756

[floral otter]

this has to be wrong

it is?

[hardy matrix]

yup

[floral otter]

thats crazy

that like, less than 1000

[hardy matrix]

yh

[floral otter]

why is it so cheap?

[hardy matrix]

what's so cheap?

You'll be able to use only resource worth 755JM not more than that

[floral otter]

755 is a little bit of money, not bragging, just saying, its cheaper than i thought

[floral otter]

i dont get it, man this whole thing is alot to take in

ok, resources, thats the CPU and what not?

what can i do with those pertaining the website?

is that like storage or speed?

[hardy matrix]

resources == RAM & CPU

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/what-is-a-cpu/

https://www.techtarget.com/searchstorage/definition/RAM-random-access-memory

[floral otter]

lol, just got a full explanation on it, i understand RAM, so it is practically storage

[prime ravine]

no

not at all

[floral otter]

?

it isnt?

[prime ravine]

do you know what task manager is

like on your computer

[floral otter]

yh

well

ik where it is

not what it is

[prime ravine]

if you open it

it will show how much cpu and ram things are using on your computer

[floral otter]

oh yh, ik that

but the question i was asking was like

[prime ravine]

cpu usage is like how much computing a program is doing

[floral otter]

how does that work on railway website or server

[prime ravine]

yea so on your server say you have a program that adds some numbers

when its adding numbers it has to keep them in ram for the cpu to be able to add them

so it uses ram and cpu

storage is for files

ram is for things that are about to be computed

and cpu usage is how much computation you are doing

[floral otter]

so, how much RAM do i have as a regular user?

[prime ravine]

512mb on free plan

[floral otter]

how much can that run?

[prime ravine]

depends on what you want to run

what are you thinking of deploying

[floral otter]

wait, but thats a decent amount of mb is it not

[floral otter]

a bot

[prime ravine]

its 0.5gb

if that helps

[floral otter]

discord bot

[prime ravine]

should be fine

but you cant run it all month

it will run out of hours

[floral otter]

hours?

[prime ravine]

you get 500 hours of runtime

per month

[floral otter]

oh

[prime ravine]

unless you link a card

[floral otter]

how much to do i get then?

[prime ravine]

the hours limit goes away

and you pay for how much cpu and ram you use

but railway will subtract $5 from the bill

so if you dont use much its free

[floral otter]

i dont think i use that much

my bot is small at the moment

[prime ravine]

https://railway.app/pricing#:~:text=Resource-Based-,Lightweight server,-HTTP server that

[floral otter]

mhh, so when i link my card, no hours and i dont have to worry about fees cause my bot doesnt need that much ram

oh, so i also have to pay $5 to remove the 500 hours?

or just link it?

[prime ravine]

just link it

[floral otter]

is it ok if i use a friends card?

[prime ravine]

yeah thats alright

[floral otter]

sigh, alr

when i contact them i will do it

but for now imma just host my bot on my laptop and learn how to use git to keep active in the future

[prime ravine]

keep in mind you also need to upgrade to the dev plan

instead of the free plan

[floral otter]

how do i do that and how much money?

[prime ravine]

you just hit upgrade on the billing page

its free to upgrade

it just means that you will be charged after you use up the free amount

on free plan we just take your bot offline

paid plan that wont happen

[floral otter]

how much will i be charged?

[prime ravine]

depends on the amount of cpu or ram you use

[prime ravine]

this will tell you

your bot will likely be free to run

[floral otter]

hopefully, cause i have no card to pay, muchless money rn

i will see though

thank you very much

both of you

[hardy matrix]

neb W

you're welcome 🙂

[keen sky]

Huh

[floral otter]

@prime ravinei tried with my friends own but it was insufficient 😭

[floral otter]

can yall help

idk how to keep my git active enough to verify

also, once a i verify, do i have to keep my git active still?

[hardy matrix]

That's not required

[floral otter]

pls help, i dont know how to keep it active cause half of the things there i have no use for. Since all i do is code a bot

i mainly use vscode and discord

do you think if i show yu my code that would work

or i could show you my server with the bot as proof of it being legit?

[keen sky]

Just Code any feature / bug fixes Or even typo and Push the changes to your repository

That's all you have to do

Nothing else

And I thinks asking for manual verification will NOT work here, They have never entertained such cases in past nor are they gonna do it specifically for you