┆⚾・baseball

[slate burrow]

Y’all had 10+ wins how many seasons in a row? Cut that narrative out

[junior aspen]

Just did since Kirk was hurt right?

[slate burrow]

Love walked into a great situation. All young talent and great coaching

[rare mulch]

Don’t count

[quiet pendant]

Brodie this is loves first season starting

[slate burrow]

And playing behind one of the best QBs ever

[twin socket]

He isn’t

[tiny topaz]

who made tha playoffs AND WON A GAME???

[slate burrow]

The Texans

With nobody

[junior aspen]

Nice color change. Of course it counts

[tiny topaz]

bro it was our first year w/o our hof qb ur delusional

[tiny topaz]

ight

[slate burrow]

Texans were supposed to win 4 games and made the playoffs and won a game

[junior aspen]

Just wait and see

[vocal spindle]

Love has ZERO argument over Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, Hurts, Lamar, Dak, Purdy, Tua, Rodgers and Stroud

[quiet pendant]

Tbh If you wanna be technical love had a better season than Kirk this year

[tiny topaz]

youngest team to win a playoff game first 7 seed win

[junior aspen]

Love had a decent first season starting

[vocal spindle]

Goff > Love than right?

[tiny topaz]

better defense

[vocal spindle]

Kirk wasn’t even playing so this isn’t a valid argument

[rare mulch]

Lions made the nfc chip btw

[junior aspen]

That’s what I’m saying 😆

[tiny topaz]

tua is the only name id argue FROM THIS LIST

[vocal spindle]

In that case, Caleb Williams > Jordan Love if yall wanna go off future rather than right now.

[tiny topaz]

suppor ting cast

[rare mulch]

Ehh

[tiny topaz]

team game

[vocal spindle]

Tua was a top 5 MVP candidate

[junior aspen]

Should’ve beat the Niners too

[vocal spindle]

Then don’t use team accolades to determine who’s better, that nullifies your playoff win

[quiet pendant]

Okay what that makes no sense Caleb could be a bust

[tiny topaz]

last year against daniel fuckin jones????

[tiny topaz]

reek

[quiet pendant]

Love has shown great signs

[rare mulch]

well lions should have won the bowl

[vocal spindle]

Jordan love could also never get better

See the flaw in your argument?

[junior aspen]

Maybe. Just maybe. I’d doubt it tho

[tiny topaz]

im glad u say that

[vocal spindle]

Caleb Williams has shown great signs

You’re just being biased

[quiet pendant]

That’s not a flaw

[tiny topaz]

love had damn near a perf passer rqating

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/caleb-williams-caleb-williams-heisman-gif-15385908740724488658

[quiet pendant]

How am I being biased 😂

[vocal spindle]

Caleb Williams > Jordan Love if future is being considered

[quiet pendant]

IMA BRONCOS FAN

[junior aspen]

I still think Mahomes and the Chiefs would’ve got them too

[tiny topaz]

lol

[tiny topaz]

sorry i highly disagree

[vocal spindle]

Kirk was injured nearly all of last season and in the playoffs wdym

[quiet pendant]

Well with that logic we can say Bo nix is better than Caleb because this last college season they just had

[vocal spindle]

Scouts disagree with you

[quiet pendant]

Lead him in yards and TDs

[junior aspen]

Bo Nix time

[twin socket]

Wtf I’m I reading

[tiny topaz]

bears in purgatory

[vocal spindle]

Then Bo Nix > Jordan love if you wanna keep using that garbage logic

[rare mulch]

Kirk would have been in the mvp convo last year, top 10 atleast.

🤷‍♂️

[junior aspen]

Injured after beating the Niners is all I remember

[rare mulch]

Bro had like 2600 passing yards and 20 tds at mid season

[quiet pendant]

You just said garbage logic while saying that love isn’t better than Caleb because of his potential

[slate burrow]

Ngl falcons are brainless

[quiet pendant]

That makes no sense

[slate burrow]

Why draft Penix

[quiet pendant]

That actually makes 0 sense

[junior aspen]

Maybe

[vocal spindle]

I named 11, so if Tua is the only name you’d even argue, than love isn’t top 10 according to you right there

[rare mulch]

It actually makes more sense than you think

[slate burrow]

So tell me how it makes sense to draft 1 injury prone QB after overpaying a QB coming off injury that’s old

[vocal spindle]

Bc you’re saying love is CURRENTLY better than other players bc of his “potential” yet not accounting for any other players potential, that’s bias

[quiet pendant]

Wow a falcons fan who isn’t mad about the pick I’m intrigued

[tiny topaz]

didnt see purdy or hurts im drunk

hes top 10

[junior aspen]

Who are the two you’re talking about?

[vocal spindle]

HURTS????

[slate burrow]

Kirk and Penix

[vocal spindle]

I’m done arguing, please don’t ever argue football again

[quiet pendant]

I never said he was better than anybody I said I think he’s close to top 10

[slate burrow]

Penix injury prone af

[vocal spindle]

Bro just said Jordan love over hurts

[tiny topaz]

way better arm talent

wayyyy better

[quiet pendant]

I said stafford is a stretch of top 10 and I think love is better than Purdy

[tiny topaz]

and like abt as mobile

[twin socket]

Man we are cooked

[slate burrow]

Idk why you’re even still talking to bro he’s off mushrooms rn

[vocal spindle]

He’s arguably top 15, that’s as far as I go. Depending on the argument he could be pushed down to top 20.

[tiny topaz]

ight whatever

[rare mulch]

Yaal making it seem like this was the worst pick ever. It will play out great when it’s all set and done.

[tiny topaz]

love is b etter than hurts

[rare mulch]

Only time will tell

[vocal spindle]

Jordan love over Jalen hurts might be one of the worst football takes I’ve ever witnessed

[rare mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-a-smith-huh-what-confused-wtf-gif-12618796

[tiny topaz]

i dont rly tink so

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-what-what-the-what-the-hell-confused-gif-5148050941166749560

[slate burrow]

I’d rather have hurts over love 100/100

[tiny topaz]

bro what did hurts do year 1 w the eagles???

[junior aspen]

Sorry Tonka. I kicked this one off

[quiet pendant]

Okay when you said Kyler that’s a reach Trevor a reach for now stafford is under him Purdy idk yet he’s good but still but he’s a solid top 15 if anything he’s not top 20

[vocal spindle]

Bro really said Jordan love over 4 of the top 5 QB MVP Candidates 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[tiny topaz]

lmk and then ill hear ur argeument

[vocal spindle]

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD KYLER IS

[quiet pendant]

BRO 😂😂😂

[tiny topaz]

take away tush push

[vocal spindle]

kyler gets injured and people just forget he was top 5-10 before injury

[quiet pendant]

DID WE WATCH THE SAME NFL SEASON

[slate burrow]

Doesn’t matter not every QB is ready year one including love. Love didn’t even start his first year he road the pine

[quiet pendant]

I remember this I do

[twin socket]

Top 5

Man

[vocal spindle]

Purdy was QB MVP runner up

[junior aspen]

Can’t really go by this tho since Jordan Love got more mentoring at the highest level before starting

[quiet pendant]

He was always in the mvp convo for like 6 weeks

[tiny topaz]

doesnt matter both accomplished vastly diff things in first year starting

[quiet pendant]

It was actually dak but yea

[vocal spindle]

Don’t forget, burrow and Allen and them hadn’t broke out yet before Kyler’s injury

[tiny topaz]

exactly my point

[twin socket]

I like kyler

[junior aspen]

May or may not be the same tho after injury

[vocal spindle]

They said Jordan love over every top 5 qb in the mvp race except Lamar I’m crine 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[quiet pendant]

Who is theyyyyy

[vocal spindle]

Yall that said love over tua stroud Purdy and dak

[quiet pendant]

I only said Purdy

[quiet pendant]

NEVER SAID THAT ONG

[vocal spindle]

They said hurts too 😭

[quiet pendant]

because I think stroud and dak is better wtf

[vocal spindle]

Tonka did

[junior aspen]

Nobody is better than Purdy except Mahomes

[quiet pendant]

Okay say them not me

[junior aspen]

😆

[quiet pendant]

Tua is better too

[twin socket]

We gonna see this year with marv

[tiny topaz]

Love almost gets to the NFC chip with christian watson and romeo doubs, eagles lose in bowl after a fluke win over 49ers with AJ BROWN AND A FUCKING HESIMAN WINNING WR. nah hurts is better w 20+ 1 yard rushing tuddies. like cmon man stop it

[slate burrow]

Jordan love was mentored by one of the best QBs of all time, has top 5 coaching in the league, and walked into a team full of fresh talented guys who wanna win. Love walked into the best situation possible and Hurts literally made the playoffs his first year starting in one of the hardest division in football

[vocal spindle]

Don’t get defensive if the shoe don’t fit, I said they, never said you by name

[quiet pendant]

But don’t include me in this

[quiet pendant]

All ik is Russ is trash

[slate burrow]

Russ arguably had better stats than love last year if you don’t look at yards

[quiet pendant]

He has less tds yards completion percentage

[junior aspen]

Hardest divisions in football is a stretch nowadays

[quiet pendant]

More ints thrown

[tiny topaz]

great arguement except Love was with the ypungest team in the league and WON, hurts lost w a team who has multiple ppl w a ring

[quiet pendant]

Ima broncos fan I remember these things

[rare mulch]

Eagles coaching did suck tho

[junior aspen]

Competitive division

[tiny topaz]

so is the north, esp now

[junior aspen]

Let’s go with that. Competitive among the teams in their own division

[rare mulch]

Defense was SO BAD

[slate burrow]

TDs and INTs ratio Russ is better, love threw more INTs and TDs cuz he threw more times. If you take love’s passing attempts and compare them to what Russ would’ve had his numbers are higher

[twin socket]

Especially the secondary

[junior aspen]

It’s like Tampa Bay’s division… they barely got the playoff spot but no one was betting on them to win it all

[tiny topaz]

JLove top 10

[rare mulch]

Yeah they were the 31st pass defense in the lg

[tiny topaz]

100000%

[vocal spindle]

Case keenum made it to the nfc chip without a defense, does that make him better than prime Drew Brees that season who was mvp runner up? Yall be overrating dude off one playoff run

[quiet pendant]

But he would have a lot more passing attempts if he stopped acting like he don’t see a check down open and take a sack

[junior aspen]

But multiple rings were of the past. Experienced but they’re older

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/random-get-away-leave-me-alone-get-outta-here-gif-17872308

Dis guy crazy man

[slate burrow]

In 2021??? What bro??? We were starting Jordan Howard and our WR2 was Quez Watkins… we didn’t hav AJ yet

[junior aspen]

Case Keenum hahaha…

[vocal spindle]

Exactly bro

[slate burrow]

Hurts carried bums to the playoffs his first year too

[junior aspen]

Matt Schaub

[slate burrow]

You must not remember correctly

[tiny topaz]

diff is keenum was old asf. love was 1st szn

[vocal spindle]

Like if you got love top 10 ima need you to say case keenum and Blake bortles were both top 5 in 2018 😭😭😭😭

[junior aspen]

Alex Smith 😭

[slate burrow]

Alex smith 💀

[vocal spindle]

How does that make them better or worse in their current season?

[slate burrow]

Alex smith was Brock Purdy before Brock Purdy

[quiet pendant]

Hey hey hey no Alex smith slander 😂

[junior aspen]

Nah. Not even close

[vocal spindle]

Being 23 does NOT mean you’re better, it means in a few years you can be better, but it does not make you CURRENTLY better, I don’t see how that’s hard to understand

[tiny topaz]

love adapted keenum was experienced and peaked

[junior aspen]

Alex Smith is a smart dude but he’s the checkdown specialist

[twin socket]

So where do u have love at ?

[vocal spindle]

So doesn’t that make keenum better then?

[tiny topaz]

idk man im done arguing this

yall will fuckin see

[slate burrow]

Both got the same type of vibe slow and don’t have much arm strength but both accurate and play for the team

[quiet pendant]

My question is where do you have stroud at forget love

[vocal spindle]

An experienced player is better than an inexperienced player

You don’t get brownie points for being young

[quiet pendant]

If that’s the logic you using where is stroud in this

[slate burrow]

Purdy was running screens every other play with Deebo 😭

And CMC

[tiny topaz]

yea id say keenum was better in 2017 than jordan love

[slate burrow]

Just swing routes and screens

[junior aspen]

I’d still say Purdy has better arm strength and is a lot sneakier running than people think

[slate burrow]

Yeah Purdy running is so funny tho

[junior aspen]

Purdy is more composed

[tiny topaz]

championship windows are a thing btw

[slate burrow]

He slow asl 😭

[vocal spindle]

If the question is who would you rather start a franchise around, love is top 10, but if it’s who is CURRENTLY BETTER, love doesn’t touch the top 10 conversation

[junior aspen]

As long as he’s evading tacklers 😆

[slate burrow]

If I’m rebuilding I’ll take Love he’s young

If I’m trynna win rn

[tiny topaz]

than love? thats like love;'s most talked abt trait

[slate burrow]

Not touching love

[quiet pendant]

So where are you ranking stroud im just asking im curious

This is to all yall

[vocal spindle]

Age and potential doesn’t change how good you currently are, it only changes how good you can be in the future

[tiny topaz]

tua and hurts are NOT BETTER CURRENTLY

[junior aspen]

This is a coaching thing. Not on Purdy necessarily

[quiet pendant]

I want to know who do yall think is better than cj

[twin socket]

Mahomes

[tiny topaz]

give love reekand waddle or brown and smith and see hopw many fuckin times in a row he drops 5k yards

[junior aspen]

I know… 😭 and it might be closing for my favorite football team

[tiny topaz]

end of convo

[quiet pendant]

Clearly Lamar pat josh Allen burrow hurts

But do yall think yall would add one more

[junior aspen]

Naw. Comparing Purdy to Alex Smith 😆

[quiet pendant]

Because imo he’s top 6

[slate burrow]

Rodgers

[tiny topaz]

Yall will see

[quiet pendant]

I mean we would have to see I’m basing this off last season

[slate burrow]

I’ll take rodgers all day over stroud

[slate burrow]

We would have to see? Cmon bro. Rodgers winning 10+ any year hes healthy

[twin socket]

No herbo???

[quiet pendant]

I mean a old Aaron Rodgers is a good aaron Rodgers so who wouldn’t

[vocal spindle]

So 2017 case keenum who threw for 3500, 22 TDS and 7 picks is better than love but Jared Goff who threw for 4600, 30 TDS and 12 picks is not better than love? And the reason is because keenum made the NFC championship? Yet Goff literally made the NFC championship? We not making sense brotha

[junior aspen]

I’m still waiting to see Rodgers right now

[quiet pendant]

Nah not imo

[slate burrow]

Rodgers with Garett Wilson

😭

[quiet pendant]

Think stroud is gonna be way better and already is better

[junior aspen]

Didn’t look great to start the game he got injured but that’s not even 4 plays in

[stiff turret]

He had 5 snaps that night

[junior aspen]

Is it though?

[slate burrow]

Stroud is gonna be a stud

[stiff turret]

Hoping for atleast 6 this year

[twin socket]

His out outside the top 5 for sure

[quiet pendant]

Well of course I won’t deny that

[slate burrow]

I’d take Kyler over love and stroud rn tho

Kyler is him

[twin socket]

I’m saying stroud

[junior aspen]

So hyped then he goes down

[quiet pendant]

But give it another few years he’ll be top 3 think it’ll be mahomes burrow and him

[vocal spindle]

I don’t think stroud is top 5, but he’s top 6-8 no matter how you wanna argue it. If it’s who is build a franchise around? He’s top 3 because that considers his age and potential, but if we talking current. He’s top 6-8.

[quiet pendant]

Yea ik

[vocal spindle]

The Kyler disrespect earlier was so crazy

[tiny topaz]

My response was a joke. In 2017 keenim was better than love bc love wansnt playing. Yes Goff is good I have him in my top 10. But as a passer, semi mobile qb. WHO HAD BETTER STATS THAN GOFF, A QB WHO HAS HIM IN GHE SUPER BOWL. YES I THINK LOVE CLEARS

[quiet pendant]

I can respect 6-7 ngl

[junior aspen]

Hold your horses. I’m still waiting for him to return to form

[quiet pendant]

But I respect it 6-8 isn’t bad

[tiny topaz]

Love legit had better stats than Goff lol

[vocal spindle]

Love does not clear Goff, stop it.

[tiny topaz]

Idk what ur on abt

He foes

[twin socket]

He gonna have a crazy year coming up

[tiny topaz]

Love the best QB in the NFC

[slate burrow]

He’s got Marvin Harrison now

Kyler about to ball

He’s got his guy

[junior aspen]

I hate him since he was so good and in the same division as the Niners

[quiet pendant]

HUH

JALEN HURTS IS ALIVE

[twin socket]

He off some crazy shit

[tiny topaz]

Compare him and loves passing stats

Only passing

[twin socket]

Wtf

[tiny topaz]

No tush push

[slate burrow]

That’s not how it works bro

[junior aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-woah-hold-up-wait-gif-5693923

[slate burrow]

In that case only look at CMC rushing

He’s not that good

Yk

[tiny topaz]

Does the arguement that love has worse weapons mean anything to u?

I’m done bro

[junior aspen]

He had Larry Fitzgerald 😆

[slate burrow]

Yes because he really doesn’t. Compared to hurts sure but packers have really good WRs and as a packers fan you should know that

[slate burrow]

Retirement home Larry fitz

[tiny topaz]

Okay so you’d take Christian Watson and Romeo doubs over AJ BROWN AND DEVONTA SMITH

[quiet pendant]

You saying you done like you didn’t just say sum blasphemous

[junior aspen]

I know haha

[twin socket]

And d hop

[tiny topaz]

Cool thanks

All I needed to know

[junior aspen]

No.

[tiny topaz]

It’s not that bad of an argument

[junior aspen]

[slate burrow]

D hop washed I fear

[tiny topaz]

look at the salary diff

[twin socket]

Now yea

[quiet pendant]

You act like yall weapons can’t produce and they just bums like the chiefs last year

[junior aspen]

I miss good D Hopkins. Left and has pretty much been quiet since…

[quiet pendant]

Look at mahomes weapons last year he still did his thing

[junior aspen]

Oh wait injury never mind I forgot

[vocal spindle]

Goff had 400+ more yards, 2 less TDS, 1 more pick, higher passer rating and qbr, higher completion %, same int%, more first downs generated, higher success rate, more yards per attempt, yards per completion, air yards per attempt, air yards per completion, yards per game, and air yards per game. So how exactly did Jordan love have better stats than Jared Goff?

[quiet pendant]

Bro had kadrious toney and mvs as wr 2 and 3

[tiny topaz]

i never said that, great qbs make due w lesser knwon weapons, like u said mahomes did well, so did love

[vocal spindle]

WHAT

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rashee-rice-patrick-mahomes-touchdown-chiefs-kansas-city-chiefs-gif-14038734185561153027

Stop disrespecting my young goat

[quiet pendant]

Oh no rashee is a dog

[junior aspen]

Outside of Rice, I’d say the WRs were bums on the Chiefs

[quiet pendant]

You see how I didn’t include him

[vocal spindle]

DUDE JUST SAID LOVE THE BEST QB IN THE NFC

[quiet pendant]

😂

[vocal spindle]

LOVE AINT EVEN THE BEST QB IN HIS DIVISION

STOP IT

[slate burrow]

The chiefs had 1 leg kelce and rice

[quiet pendant]

And my fantasy champion has to stop getting in legal trouble

[slate burrow]

Pacheco carried too

Who tf did the ravens have

[vocal spindle]

Goff had 400+ more yards, 2 less TDS, 1 more pick, higher passer rating and qbr, higher completion %, same int%, more first downs generated, higher success rate, more yards per attempt, yards per completion, air yards per attempt, air yards per completion, yards per game, and air yards per game. So how exactly did Jordan love have better stats than Jared Goff?

[twin socket]

I had him too

[slate burrow]

Ravens had old man Odell and Nelson aghelor 💀

[junior aspen]

But they have the arguable GOAT Mahomes, monster TE Travis Kelce, and coach Andy freakin Reid

[quiet pendant]

Tank dell szn incoming

[twin socket]

Watch out for Diggs

[vocal spindle]

BEST QB IN THE NFC? DAK HAS 500 MORE YARDS, MORE TOUCHDOWNS, AND LESS PICKS, AND BEATS LOVE IN EVERY STAT

[quiet pendant]

Okay but 2 players don’t make an offense yea it’s Andy Reid but still

[vocal spindle]

AND IM A COWBOYS HATER

[tiny topaz]

guy aiyuk and deebo, ceedee, and aj and devonta. DO NOT CONTRIBUTE NEARLY AS MUCH AS (LISTING ALL OF PACKERS WRS AND YALL ONLY FUCKIN KNOW 4... watson, doubs, reed, wicks, melton, heath, dubose, toure.)

[twin socket]

He not washed

[junior aspen]

Lamar, John Harbaugh, Mark Andrews, and a monster defense who couldn’t stop Mahomes

[vocal spindle]

AND HURTS BEATS LOVE IN DANG NEAR EVERY STAT TOO

[quiet pendant]

He’s gone do his thing regardless

[twin socket]

Mark was injured

[slate burrow]

Andrews was out all year

[tiny topaz]

youngest team in nfl vs a b unch of all pros

[vocal spindle]

holy crap the takes get worse the later we get into the night

It’s bed time bro

[junior aspen]

He returned

[slate burrow]

For like 3 games

[junior aspen]

Yes

[twin socket]

He had horses injections

[junior aspen]

Still returned

[tiny topaz]

ceedee lamb and 5 more years of playin g nfl;

[vocal spindle]

Love isn’t even the best qb in his division, and he’s not a top 3 QB in the NFC, that’s not even debatable

[slate burrow]

He was playing with tranqs 😭

[junior aspen]

Dude, if Travis Kelce comes back for 3 games, you guys think things would be different?

[vocal spindle]

Dak had better stats when ceedee was a high schooler than love had this year

Terrible excuse

[tiny topaz]

dez bryant sucks man

horrible wr

[slate burrow]

I mean they all play with injuries but watch andrews

[tiny topaz]

no help

foh

[slate burrow]

He broke his leg and then played a month later

[tiny topaz]

yall dont consider weapoins

at fuckin ALL

[junior aspen]

Did you guys watch Mahomes play in the Super Bowl against the Eagles?

[twin socket]

Yes

[junior aspen]

I swear that guy got some crazy painkillers and shots during halftime

[quiet pendant]

Did Dak even play with dez 💀

[vocal spindle]

Dez Bryant’s last 1000 yard season was when Dak was a high schooler, what are you on?

[slate burrow]

All these dudes play with horrible injuries

[junior aspen]

Hobbled like crazy to end the half

Comes out like he’s been dosed up

[tiny topaz]

amari cooper?

like still

zeke elliot]

in prime

[vocal spindle]

Bro was a raider

[slate burrow]

Elliot prime lasted 1 year

[tiny topaz]

who beat them

[vocal spindle]

And Zeke was a running back

[junior aspen]

Come on now…

[twin socket]

He had the te I forgot his name

[tiny topaz]

witten

[quiet pendant]

Wait wait what are you tryna argue rn

I’m confused

[junior aspen]

Witten was old as hell already by that time

[tiny topaz]

idc yall acting like i dont know ball. its my fuckin livelihood

[vocal spindle]

The dude who got 500 yards a season with Dak???

[slate burrow]

Elliot fell off by 25 im crying

[vocal spindle]

Oh my gosh you went 0/4 dawg

[twin socket]

I don’t know man I’m just chatting rn

[junior aspen]

That’s not one season

[slate burrow]

2016 shouldn’t even count that was a year after Demarco Murray and Darren McFadden lead the league in rushing while on Dallas

[lean dust]

Who had fun today

[empty shuttle]

Guys im tellin y’all take arraez over fantasy score tmr

[vocal spindle]

I’m a top 5 qb then, bc I went undefeated in 8th grade throwing to a bunch of middle schoolers with a 600lb O line and no defense.

[junior aspen]

That was crazy

[tiny topaz]

ima never let any single one of yall hear the end of it when love wins an mvp and super bowl before half of yalls top 10

[vocal spindle]

Having no weapons doesn’t automatically make you better

[junior aspen]

Murray…

[twin socket]

We will come back to dis tmr

[slate burrow]

Cowboys had Demarco Murray looking like prime Barry sanders

[vocal spindle]

Not a single person here argued against love’s potential

[junior aspen]

Sorry Steve. No baseball has been talked about for the last half hour

[empty shuttle]

u went less gng?

[lean dust]

Good

Today sucked ass

[slate burrow]

You wanna see something painful from MLB tonight

[junior aspen]

For real. That monster o line

[vocal spindle]

We talking about CURRENT LOVE, if he wins a mvp in 2029 it has NOTHING to do with this conversation

[twin socket]

Nah I’m not crazy for betting arráez under

[junior aspen]

Why?! I’m taking a pepper bet instead

[tiny topaz]

who else in ur top 10 led the youngest team in the league to the divisional round

i sincerely dont get it

[twin socket]

So dat makes love top ten ?

[vocal spindle]

You don’t get cookies for your team being young

[tiny topaz]

give love 2 years w this squad. new dc, xavier mckinney, we coming for a chi[

[empty shuttle]

he has really good numbers against this pitcher hes playing tomorrow

[vocal spindle]

You get cookies for how good you currently are

[empty shuttle]

a great matchup

[vocal spindle]

2 years from now isn’t current.

[slate burrow]

Slurping Jordan love after 1 year in the NFL is crazy let him do well for a year or two before you talk about him like he’s Patrick mahomes

[lean dust]

Idk if he top ten but love close imo

[tiny topaz]

nah soprry he bot 15 like wtf

[junior aspen]

But you get to play the Bears twice

[tiny topaz]

it is

it legit is

[lean dust]

This coming from a Vikings fan

[tiny topaz]

lo

'

[vocal spindle]

Current is RIGHT NOW

[tiny topaz]

this is his 2nd year no?

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-knight-the-joker-heath-gif-21446069

[vocal spindle]

What does that have to do with 2 years from now?

You all over the place bro

[tiny topaz]

give love 2 years meaning this is his 2nd year

[vocal spindle]

It might be time to get some sleep

[junior aspen]

Close is good but more than 10 QBs were named ahead of him

[lean dust]

So we arguing if love is top ten right now

?

[tiny topaz]

ight

[vocal spindle]

Ahh I see what you mean rn

[tiny topaz]

cool idc

[twin socket]

Yes Unc

[vocal spindle]

It sounded like you were saying give love 2 more years

[junior aspen]

Is Kirk better than Love?

[tiny topaz]

yall not ready for this

[lean dust]

He like 12-14

[slate burrow]

2 years ago people were saying Trey Lance is gonna be the next superstar and bro isn’t even a 2nd string now

[lean dust]

Right now no

[tiny topaz]

love didnt prove himself to yall ig

he did to me even tho im a pack fan

[slate burrow]

He did to you because you’re a packer fan*

[abstract citrus]

He had an amazing season bro has a lot of potential anyone saying otherwise is hating

[junior aspen]

Technically he was better last season since Kirk was injured 😆

[lean dust]

Love solid as f 12-14th imo after first year starting

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/time-flies-man-kevin-hart-cold-as-balls-lol-network-time-passes-gif-17584789

[abstract citrus]

started off bad but saved it near the end

[junior aspen]

I never believed in him

[slate burrow]

And 2 years before that it was Josh Rosen 😭😭😭😭

[lean dust]

And age and Achilles injury on Kirk going into this season

[stiff turret]

36 isn't bad

[lean dust]

The Achilles is

[junior aspen]

Yea… Kirk is decent but not a running QB

[lean dust]

To a dude who can’t move already

[twin socket]

And Sam darnold

[junior aspen]

Different times

[rare mulch]

Yeah considering he’s a pocket passer also

[junior aspen]

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning played in a different era

[empty moss]

who said Kirk top ten

[vocal spindle]

@tiny topaz I think you severely misunderstand everyone. No one is saying love isn’t good. And no one is saying he won’t be good. I even said that if we talking about starting a franchise with a player, he’s easily top 10, most likely higher. But when we talking current, as in this exact point in time, not the future, he’s done nothing to beat out the other guys in the top 10, none of the things he’s done are impressive if you take anything involving age out of them, anything involving age means it’s impressive for their age, not normal standard, he will be great in the future, but he’s not touching top 10 after this past season.

[tiny topaz]

i watched rodgers for my whole life, i told my pops that JLove is the perfect combo of favre and rodgers. I genuinely think he has the pitet nial to bring the lomabrdi back to lamnbeau. thats why i am so passionate. sorry if i seemed upset but i am very adamant on this man;s success

[lean dust]

No one they said love is

Tonka did my fault

Not they

[empty moss]

love

ain no way

[junior aspen]

I get that but he’s not top 10 right now is probably why this spiraled 😆

[lean dust]

He 12-14 in that range

[vocal spindle]

Ironically enough I’m super high on love compared to most people. But he’s currently not top 10. Maybe in the future

[empty moss]

love no where near top ten

he crazy

[tiny topaz]

i mean he has more playoff wins than dak and tua alr, makin him top 10 on ur list no?

[rare mulch]

Can’t say dat hes middle of the pack tho

[lean dust]

I legit think he 12-15

[empty moss]

wait

top ten in what

[lean dust]

And gonna get better

[empty moss]

all time?

[lean dust]

Imo

Qb this year

[vocal spindle]

Then give me case keenum and Jared Goff over love right now.

[twin socket]

Ya like tua

[rare mulch]

No way u thought dat 😭

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/derek-carr-saints-nfl-gif-6219579056164793895

Carr stares in mid

[pliant gust]

Lies

[junior aspen]

It’s not determined just by playoff wins

[lean dust]

All I know is I want stroud this year

[vocal spindle]

If this is the standard, then there’s a plethora of players over love if all it takes is playoff wins

[empty moss]

im high es

[junior aspen]

Right now

[tiny topaz]

id say at least goff has had better supporting casts than love, keenum is a bit of a fluke to me but sure ig u can make that arguemtn as of rn

[empty moss]

oh

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-that-pack-gif-24686544

[tiny topaz]

thast true ig

[empty moss]

he like borderline then

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/aoc-purdue-purdue-football-aidan-o-connell-o-connell-gif-23722095

[slate burrow]

Love had a lead with 6 mins and the ball in their last playoff game but lost to Brock Purdy

[empty moss]

I say he 12-13

[lean dust]

That’s what I said 12-14

[empty moss]

around there

[rare mulch]

Bro look like a scrub

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-dark-knight-here-we-go-the-joker-gif-15343519

[lean dust]

You know what’s sup skedaddle

[junior aspen]

Case Keenum again 😆

[tiny topaz]

thast a bit less biased than me ig

[vocal spindle]

I got him like 13-18, bc I got about 6ish people I would go back and forth with you over, but I got atleast 12 I won’t even waste time arguing

[empty moss]

https://tenor.com/view/cj-stroud-gif-4932388130898616996

[lean dust]

He solid not top ten

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/stiff-arm-chandler-jones-patriots-gif-27266202

[empty moss]

he better than love

[twin socket]

Please stop

[lean dust]

That’s what I mean 12-14 somewhere in there depending on the person def not top ten

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-sure-catbruh-gif-21408636

[lean dust]

We on same page

[slate burrow]

Derrick Carr is the worst QB in the league but yall ain’t ready to hear that

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/derek-carr-las-vegas-raiders-staring-stare-gif-19324020

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/brady-tuck-rule-snowing-nfl-snow-gif-13351941

[vocal spindle]

I have no doubt that Jordan love will be top 10 in the future, I’d be surprised if he wasn’t, I even called them blowing out the cowboys the night before they did in the playoffs.

[oak quail]

Slate tmr sucks

[slate burrow]

Derrick Carr done had every possible weapon

And still lost

[empty moss]

worse is crazy

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-brady-patriots-eagles-sbvii-incomplete-gif-11027640

[junior aspen]

Worst? 😆

[lean dust]

Nice hit again brother

[slate burrow]

I’d take baker over Carr

[stiff turret]

Daniel jones exist

[slate burrow]

Nah

I’d take Danny over Carr

[quiet pendant]

What’s wrong with baker

[junior aspen]

You’re not naming some of the really really bad ones

[slate burrow]

Danny can break off a 60 yard dash

[empty moss]

nah I am absolutely smackin these fruits snacks rn

[junior aspen]

I’d take Baker too

[quiet pendant]

He played good last year

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/chilldog-gif-6253079634849225723

[stiff turret]

Danny can trip over himself

[junior aspen]

Mac Jones?

[slate burrow]

Starters not backups

[slate burrow]

Not a starter now

[lean dust]

McCarthy baby

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/maxx-crosby-las-vegas-raiders-raiders-sack-gif-23619252

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/speedy-run-football-tripping-running-gif-18908019

[rare mulch]

Bro isn’t even a starter nm

[lean dust]

JJ to JJ

[junior aspen]

Zach Wilson?

[tiny topaz]

im sorry but even me tryting to be the least unbiased as i can i think love is still top 10

rn

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/poop-pooping-poop-emoji-pooping-meme-poop-in-gif-12246244508030698274

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/random-get-away-leave-me-alone-get-outta-here-gif-17872308

[rare mulch]

Unfortunately it will be darnold to JJ lol

[junior aspen]

You talking about starters now?

Thought last season

[tiny topaz]

yall takin herbert over Love? bc im not ngl

[slate burrow]

Even last season

[lean dust]

To start yes very unfortunate

[slate burrow]

Carr had hella weapons

[junior aspen]

Desmond Ridder

[lean dust]

But when he does come in

JJ TO JJ BABY

[rare mulch]

I don’t think darnold is bad

[slate burrow]

Chris Olave, Kamara, Michael Thomas

But can’t even go .500

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-belichick-gif-23323273

[junior aspen]

Taylor Heinicke

[tiny topaz]

hope jj is good for yall

[twin socket]

Dat brother man is ass

[slate burrow]

He’s lowkey him

[lean dust]

I don’t either perfect guy to start out the season ahead of a rookie

[slate burrow]

Heinicke sucks but he has heart

[lean dust]

Ex Viking

[quiet pendant]

You can bet on Nico mannion twice

[junior aspen]

Jarrett Stidham

[quiet pendant]

If anybody was wondering 💀

[junior aspen]

But he sucks

[vocal spindle]

@tiny topaz

[twin socket]

Another one

Dat sucks

[junior aspen]

ZAPPE!

[rare mulch]

Sucks?!?

[tiny topaz]

my dad put 50 on ML

[vocal spindle]

Basically everyone had packers to win but I didn’t

[junior aspen]

And Washington too

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/random-get-away-leave-me-alone-get-outta-here-gif-17872308

[quiet pendant]

LEAVE STID THE KID ALONE

[tiny topaz]

idk i love my packers man ill get hella defensice

[vocal spindle]

I love my dolphins but I don’t bias into my arguments

[tiny topaz]

ig hes not top 10 rn, but i think b yu the end of next season he def is

[twin socket]

My fault

[junior aspen]

Aidan OConnell

[vocal spindle]

Stats wise I could argue Tua over a lot of players but I don’t

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-gif-22057358

[slate burrow]

Against the bears btw

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/broncos-country-lets-ride-russell-gif-26441847

[vocal spindle]

Tua was a top 5 mvp candidate this year and I still won’t argue him over a lot of others

[tiny topaz]

i love to bring up other points in arguements

i mean tua does have reek/waddle

[junior aspen]

O’Connell replaced Jimmy G who replaced Carr

[slate burrow]

26 QB rating should be a crime

[tiny topaz]

cmon now

[vocal spindle]

Waddle is never healthy

[abstract citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/aoc-purdue-purdue-football-aidan-o-connell-o-connell-gif-23722095

[vocal spindle]

And a good receiver doesn’t make you make good throws

[slate burrow]

Who replaced Jamarcus Russel

[vocal spindle]

Derek Carr had davante Adams and couldn’t do that

[slate burrow]

So it’s Jamarcus Russel’s fault

[abstract citrus]

You got the time line wrong

[junior aspen]

That’s too long ago lol

That was so bad

[vocal spindle]

Mahomes wasn’t just good bc he had tyreek, so why is Tua?

[slate burrow]

Either way it’s Jamarcus fault

[junior aspen]

Coaching was trash

What the hell happened to that one season Derek Carr and Amari Cooper connected

[slate burrow]

How tf did the raiders sign AB but he didn’t even play a game for them

And AB played 1 game in the patriots

AB really crashed out his last year

[vocal spindle]

Every good qb in the league has a good receiver, Mahomes has kelce, burrow has jamarr, allen had diggs, etc. and they’re all good, so why is Tua only good bc he has tyreek?

[junior aspen]

Needs a monster TE and legendary coach

[twin socket]

I remember dat game against the dolphins

[junior aspen]

He was way done after that concussion from the Bengals player

[tiny topaz]

the reason i also say love is because a great thing abt him is that he spreads the ball to randoms. a main problem w later years ARod was that he tunnled visioned tae adams. Love says he thinkls an offense is better when there is no true #1 wr. I thinm that will worm to his advantage and put hik in those top 5 discussions

[slate burrow]

Tua was putting up video game numbers with just waddle

Before reek even got there

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/ab-antonio-brown-new-england-patriots-hey-number17-gif-15057826

[rare mulch]

It was raining chill

He had no grip

[tiny topaz]

tua broke out w reek

[junior aspen]

This is put too simply

[vocal spindle]

Exactly

And waddle wasn’t good until Tua broke out

[slate burrow]

AB top 5 funniest people alive

[twin socket]

Wish he didn’t go crazy

[vocal spindle]

It’s just an example, not saying Tua is on their level

[tiny topaz]

love is a "good qb" watson/doubs does not compare top any wr 1 on most teams

[slate burrow]

Go look at ABs twitter

CTESPN 💀

[junior aspen]

Oh yea @slate burrow would you take Will Levis over Derek Carr?

[twin socket]

I follow him

[slate burrow]

Yeah gimme everyone including me over Carr

[vocal spindle]

But you can give me jj, tyreek, jamarr and kelce and i still won’t throw for 400, still takes a good qb to get them the ball

[rare mulch]

A couple of QBs get discredited because of the weapons they have.💀

We got ppl thinking love better than tua

[twin socket]

Tua

[slate burrow]

I could sling it around for 150 2 TDs 1 INT and run for 75 yards

[junior aspen]

I have nothing left to say then

[rare mulch]

Tua is better than love I’m not debating dat shi

[vocal spindle]

You’ll run for -3 yards and be out for a half

[tiny topaz]

love had crazy stats without any 20/mil a year wr

[vocal spindle]

And come back and throw 4 ints

[slate burrow]

Nah I’m 6’3

I’m running ppl over

[rare mulch]

😭

[vocal spindle]

Waddle wasn’t a 20/mil a year receiver and Tua had crazy stats with just him before tyreek got there

[junior aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-not-nope-no-no-way-no-chance-gif-17243246

[tiny topaz]

do u see the comps between jeffersons contract and every sigles packers wr. its triple the price of our wholw wr core

[slate burrow]

I was on the same high school team as Eli Apple I remember mossing him in practice

[vocal spindle]

You can’t compare rookie contracts

Jamarr got the same contract

[rare mulch]

Dats insane

[junior aspen]

The rest of the game*

[tiny topaz]

very true, im also saying tua beneifted from reek... hes a great qb and not a reek merchant but he def excelled w a top 5 wr

[vocal spindle]

I got trucked by Quinn ewers at our white out game 😭😭😭

[quiet pendant]

So guys

[tiny topaz]

u cant disagree w that?

[slate burrow]

150 in 4 quarters I’m throwing check downs every time

[twin socket]

Who he playing against?

[junior aspen]

I don’t think you understand how the NFL works…

[quiet pendant]

Who is the locks tmr

[slate burrow]

😭😭😭 nah that’s crazy

[vocal spindle]

Yeah but you can’t say he’s not good just bc he has tyreek

[quiet pendant]

Jesus 💀💀💀

[junior aspen]

Aren’t you Eli Apple?

[slate burrow]

Idk man I played in college against some NFL players never struggled

[slate burrow]

Nah that’s bro

[quiet pendant]

What year of high school if you don’t mind me asking 😂

[rare mulch]

Eli missed Eli crazy work

[junior aspen]

Wouldn’t matter 😆

[rare mulch]

Mossed

[vocal spindle]

I also almost got headtopped by Erik ezukanma who’s a dolphins wide receiver now ironically enough, only thing that stopped it was the outrageous PI I committed 😭

[slate burrow]

Eli Apple doesn’t know how to swing his hips

[vocal spindle]

our district was dangerous bruh

[slate burrow]

You can read where he’s going

[tiny topaz]

u gotta understand jp i love u but im a sports analyst and love to debate. love does not have the same caliber wr as tua and put up somewhat comparable stats. and he also had the youngest team in the NFl. i dont ask u to agree w me, but do u undrstand why I am making this debate

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/nfl-nfl-tackle-brian-dawkins-football-american-football-gif-27264890

[vocal spindle]

Tua was putting up crazy stats with Waddle before tyreek came, and waddle was basically the exact same as Watson is rn

Same contract

Same tier of player

Were ranked identical spots by basically all analysts

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/minnesota-vikings-minnesota-vikings-aaron-rodgers-vikes-gif-16985117

Fuck the packers

[twin socket]

I rather waddle tho

[tiny topaz]

didnt waddle j get extended

[lean dust]

Sit that ass down

[vocal spindle]

You wouldn’t have said that when waddle was a 2nd year player

[tiny topaz]

look at their stas, id say waddle is beter

and more healthyu=

[vocal spindle]

I’m talking about waddle when he was in the same year as love’s receivers

I’m not comparing 2024 waddle to Watson

[tiny topaz]

FUK THE VIQUEENS

lol

[lean dust]

All day baby

[junior aspen]

Vikings fans… I feel for ya

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/packers-aar-rodg-state-rodgers-rate-gif-23610884

[tiny topaz]

2023 watson hasd a top 5 qb oat

[slate burrow]

Ngl I got mossed bad by Corey clement

[lean dust]

We rep vikes tell we die tho baby

Skol

[vocal spindle]

I’m comparing 2nd year waddle to 2nd year Watson

[slate burrow]

One hand and I committed PI

[tiny topaz]

corey clement badger legend

[slate burrow]

I wanted to kms

[lean dust]

Member when Barr smoked his ass legally and he whines for weeks

[vocal spindle]

Definitely not more healthy

[lean dust]

Fucking weeks

[slate burrow]

His school and my school were rivals

[tiny topaz]

2nd year watson was hurt all year and barelt more healthy

[slate burrow]

He cooked me bad 😭

[tiny topaz]

my school was rivbals w juistin fields and jaylen brown

[twin socket]

Barrr was him

[vocal spindle]

Compare it to any packers receiver this past year

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/minnesota-vikings-minnesota-vikings-aaron-rodgers-vikes-gif-16985116

Fuck the packers

[twin socket]

And Hendricks too

[rare mulch]

Fr

[lean dust]

Don’t u forget about Chad greenway

[slate burrow]

I quit football my Junior year and played baseball full time I had hella scholarships for baseball

[tiny topaz]

our wrs were mostly unknown until the playoffs. that is why i make the debate

[junior aspen]

Jaylen Brown?

[rare mulch]

Where did u commit

[junior aspen]

High school?

[tiny topaz]

my gf mad i gotta head to bed

[junior aspen]

Less concussions too 🙏

[tiny topaz]

he played at Wheeler Hs I attened Pope Hs

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/trucked-steelers-hit-stick-pittsburgh-gif-12176138

[slate burrow]

Ohio state but then dropped out of college cuz I own a fashion company and run the support for Real sports app

[vocal spindle]

@tiny topaz Jordan love had a bunch of 23 year old receivers on low rookie contracts and weren’t ranked highly at all and put up good stats. Tua before tyreek came, had 23 year old waddle who was in the same exact tier as love’s 23 year old receivers were this year, and was on the same rookie contract, and Tua put up crazy stats with him. So it’s not about having tyreek.

[tiny topaz]

same w the footbalkl part brother, my cvoaches aint fw me

[lean dust]

AP WAS HIM

[vocal spindle]

This is what I’ve said 4 times yall just didn’t understand it the first 3

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/minnesota-vikings-minnesota-vikings-aaron-rodgers-vikes-gif-16985117

[tiny topaz]

i get that but like waddle clears every packers wr no?

[vocal spindle]

And I’d even argue, Jordan love had 4 talented young receivers, Tua had 1 and some bums and still put up numbers

[slate burrow]

I was always in trouble

[junior aspen]

Dudeeeee

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/adrian-peterson-football-nfl-gif-12786738

[vocal spindle]

23 year old waddle didn’t clear a single receiver the packers had this year, that’s what I’m saying

[junior aspen]

So fun to watch

Trucking everyone

[lean dust]

HIM

[slate burrow]

AP on Washington was the best version of AP

[empty moss]

https://tenor.com/view/jaylen-waddle-gif-7761283145829562276

[slate burrow]

Beat his kid with a wire then ran for 120

What a guy

[vocal spindle]

Current waddle clears them, but we aren’t talking about current waddle.

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/adrian-peterson-nfl-football-gif-12368889

Shit was nasty

Look at that jump cut

[junior aspen]

Now I want to watch his highlights

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/jefferson-vikings-justinjefferson-dalvincook-cook-gif-23723879

[lean dust]

Nothing on AP

[slate burrow]

Switch to spank his child what a menace

[rare mulch]

4 years old 😭

[lean dust]

WASHED UP

[junior aspen]

Yea I’m not gonna get into that one

[slate burrow]

AP baby!

[lean dust]

Ruined his career nfl black balled his ass

[slate burrow]

He ran for 120 after this happened

😭

[lean dust]

While people there there woman on beds full of guns play weeks later

[junior aspen]

Dalvin Cook was cooking for a while until he wasn’t and now barely exists in the NFL

[tiny topaz]

u fr? i think waddle better than every wr we have rn except wicks and reed, at 23 watson was better bc he had ARod. u make a great point but our first 100 yard wr of the szn came late and it was BO MELTON. no one knew him and alot still done. idk im sorry if i came off rude. I just believe love has less experin cved and proven helpo

[rare mulch]

Bro fell off so bad

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/minnesota-vikings-minnesota-vikings-aaron-rodgers-vikes-gif-16985112

[slate burrow]

I’ll never forget this either

[junior aspen]

Now I gotta watch CJ2K highlights after AP highlights

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/adrian-peterson-gif-9743989

[tiny topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/brett-favre-green-bay-packers-packers-go-pack-go-nfl-legends-gif-25691504

dont forget u get our sloppy seconds

[lean dust]

Should of won it all with him saints cheating ass

[vocal spindle]

I’m not comparing 23 year old waddle to 23 year old Watson

[slate burrow]

😭

[vocal spindle]

23 year old waddle vs love’s receivers this past year

[junior aspen]

He was still putting up numbers

[lean dust]

We beat colts that year 34-17

[slate burrow]

Elliot is a dawg

[tiny topaz]

id take waddle over damn near everyone of our wrs

[tiny topaz]

he was goated, an ironman

[vocal spindle]

Would you take waddle alone over all 4 tho?

[junior aspen]

Did the woman give consent?

[tiny topaz]

well obv not, ill trade our whole wr core for reek/waddle tho

[vocal spindle]

I’d take current waddle over all 4, but are you accepting a trade, 23 year old waddle by himself, for wicks, Watson, doubs, and Reed?

Not accounting for potential

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/aaron-jones-green-bay-packers-touchdown-blow-kiss-gif-15928512

[tiny topaz]

i think waddle clears watson and reed. doubs is an X and i fw hima nd so is Wicks

[empty moss]

https://tenor.com/view/minnesota-vikings-minnesota-vikings-aaron-rodgers-vikes-gif-16985117

[lean dust]

Ur gonna miss him

[slate burrow]

No Elliot got suspended 6 games

[vocal spindle]

Bc if not, then love had a more experienced, and better receiving core than Tua when he started putting up numbers than when Tua started putting up numbers

[tiny topaz]

well thats 4 for 1 so no but i get the point ur making yea

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/adrian-peterson-nfl-football-gif-12368889

[vocal spindle]

So with that out of the way

[slate burrow]

This Timezone has me so messed up

[vocal spindle]

You can’t say Tua isn’t good just bc he has tyreek, if he did the same thing as love with less than love had

[junior aspen]

What time

[lean dust]

https://tenor.com/view/vikings-minnesota-harrison-smith-touchdown-gif-12693882

[slate burrow]

It’s 10 am

[tiny topaz]

bro not a sigle skilled position was over their 2nd year of playing besides aaron jones we had a SUPER YOUNG TEAM

[empty moss]

wtf

[slate burrow]

I keep going to check to see when the games start

[vocal spindle]

Waddle was a rookie

And everyone else was garbage

You would not have traded your current packers receiving core for that dolphins receiving core

[tiny topaz]

how many yards?

[junior aspen]

If only Aaron Jones was healthy and looked like he did in the playoffs

[tiny topaz]

he almost put yall away. man i miss him

[junior aspen]

I had him in fantasy football so yea…

[tiny topaz]

love clears tua man. i guess im biased but like man he is already proven to have way better potential

[junior aspen]

What?! Aaron Jones is on the Vikings now? Man I’m slow

[tiny topaz]

no way u didnt know

we have jpsh jacobs now

could be a good fantasy baclk

[junior aspen]

That one I knew…

[vocal spindle]

@tiny topaz would you have traded wicks, doubs, Watson and Reed, for 23 year old rookie waddle plus Albert Wilson and Isaiah ford? Not accounting for potential.

[slate burrow]

This was Tua’s first year btw

You don’t understand how good the Pacers WRs are

Watson, Doubs, Wicks, Reed

[junior aspen]

Gesicki!

[slate burrow]

Imagine having Jakeem Grant as your WR2

You’d wanna commit

[tiny topaz]

did u know who wicks was before the cowboys game????

[vocal spindle]

Jakeem Grant played 4 games and started none, Albert Wilson was wr2

[tiny topaz]

same applies to u

[vocal spindle]

Do you know who Albert Wilson is?

[slate burrow]

Either way both of them are garbage af

[vocal spindle]

4 years after he played the full season?

[slate burrow]

Albert Wilson 😭😭

He’s their WR4 now

[vocal spindle]

Answer this question ^

[tiny topaz]

no but like did u know bo melton was our fiorst 100 yard wr

[vocal spindle]

You wouldn’t make that trade bc you know that the packers receiving core was better

Correct?

[tiny topaz]

more potential yes

better

[slate burrow]

I’d rather have the packers 4 than waddle and nobody

[tiny topaz]

arguable

[vocal spindle]

Without potential

[junior aspen]

Albert Wilson 😆

[tiny topaz]

than no. didnt waddle produce 1k?

[vocal spindle]

You really think rookie waddle and Albert Wilson is better than your entire receiving core???

[tiny topaz]

no packers wr produced over 700

[junior aspen]

I only know because I play fantasy football

[tiny topaz]

if waddle did worse than that than ig i wont take him

that was rookie addle

[vocal spindle]

You’re bsing if you’re telling me your trading your entire receiving core for rookie waddle and Albert Wilson

[tiny topaz]

not 2n d year waddle

[slate burrow]

It doesn’t matter if he had 1k. Reed would’ve had 1k or Doubs last year but they have so many guys and you guys had Musgrave, Jones, Dillon

[vocal spindle]

We talking 23 year old waddle

[junior aspen]

Musgrave 😆

[vocal spindle]

2nd year was 24 year old waddle who had tyreek

We talking pre tyreek

[junior aspen]

Dart throw every week for a possible TD

[slate burrow]

Better than Mike Gesiciki

[tiny topaz]

thats the point the ball was spread. obv id take the pack bc we have more muths to feed, i believe waddle has more talent than watson and reed combined tho

[junior aspen]

How about Lazard

Pahahaha…

[slate burrow]

Lazard is a clown

[vocal spindle]

@tiny topaz stop lying bro, there’s ZERO chance, that if you’re team traded your ENTIRE receiving core, for rookie waddle, Albert Wilson and Isaiah ford that you’d be happy with that and think it’s an upgrade

[junior aspen]

I’d be happy with Waddle only

[tiny topaz]

if we talking rookie waddle then we only tradin wtason romeo and toure. YALL CAN HAVE THEM LOL

[junior aspen]

But no deep threat

[vocal spindle]

Wicks, Doubs, Watson and Reed are NOT worse than rookie waddle, Albert Wilson and Isaiah fordz.

[vocal spindle]

You only get rookie waddle, and it’s only for that year, so potential doesn’t matter

[tiny topaz]

REED and WICKS werent in the league

[slate burrow]

You can add together like 2-3 Albert Wilson seasons and get not even close to Reed last year from the packers

[vocal spindle]

You only get his exact production for that year

[tiny topaz]

reed and wicks and melton werent playing

[vocal spindle]

bro you still don’t understand the question

[slate burrow]

I’d take Reed over every dolphins WR not named waddle or hill in the last 10 years

[junior aspen]

Stop it with Albert Wilson. Poor guy 😭

[junior aspen]

Not even Brandon Marshall?

[slate burrow]

Dolphins always got ass WRs

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/harrison-smith-vikings-bowling-gif-27054977

[slate burrow]

Brandon Marshall has CTE

[tiny topaz]

thats unfair to say that rookie addle gets traded for ppl who were not even in the league yet. I would trade watson and doubs for waddle. wicks and reed? no!

[junior aspen]

Oh wow out of range

[vocal spindle]

We arent talking about an actual possible trade, we are talking about trading the dolphins 2021 receiving core, of rookie waddle, Albert Wilson, and Isaiah ford, for the 2024 packers receiving core, and you only get them for 1 year so all future potential doesn’t matter.

[junior aspen]

Brandon Marshall was on the team from 2010-2011

[vocal spindle]

They were in the league in 2024 were they not?

[junior aspen]

Not the past ten years holy crap

[slate burrow]

Dolphins fr signed Odell

😭

[tiny topaz]

when waddle was a rookie reed and wicks were and at mich st and virginia

[vocal spindle]

Dude answer the question I’m asking

oh my gosh

[junior aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/odell-beckham-jr-american-football-receiver-omg-football-gif-15794892

[vocal spindle]

When you compare bron and Jordan are you gonna be like “that’s not fair, lebron wasn’t born in 1996”

That’s what you’re doing rn

[slate burrow]

There’s no way this guy isn’t trolling

At first I thought he just didn’t have any football knowledge

[vocal spindle]

I just said Lebron wasn’t born in 1996 LMAO

[slate burrow]

Now I’m convinced he’s trolling

[junior aspen]

I was gonna correct you

But it didn’t feel right

[tiny topaz]

if u want to prove this particular point sure. but i will give u my fucking LIFE SAVINGS if u can tell me rn that u said the packers even had a top 15 wr core entering last season

[vocal spindle]

Nah I noticed asap lol

[vocal spindle]

So you wouldn’t make the trade

Correct?

[tiny topaz]

no ig

inwouldnt

[vocal spindle]

You wouldn’t rather have the 2021 dolphins receiving core this past season on the packers

[tiny topaz]

bc chem and deeper roojm

[junior aspen]

Is a debate still going on?

I think it’s settled now

[tiny topaz]

nah its over ig

[vocal spindle]

So Tua had a worse receiving core in 2021 when he started putting up stats than love had in 2024 when he started putting up stats

[vocal spindle]

He just took 30 minutes to answer my one question 😭😭

[tiny topaz]

compare both those szns

[junior aspen]

It’s settled now that we should all go to sleep and win on some baseball bets tomorrow/today

[junior aspen]

I know. The convo was sprinkled in with other convos

[vocal spindle]

So if love is good bc he put up stats with a bad receiving core, than isn’t Tua good because he put up stats with an even worse receiving core? So now that he got tyreek how does that all of a sudden make him bad?

[junior aspen]

Oh no… it’s starting again 😆

[vocal spindle]

He was good before tyreek with even worse weapons than love, which is your exact argument for why love is so good

[vocal spindle]

It never ended

[junior aspen]

I thought it ended

[vocal spindle]

He said something in the debate literally seconds after that

[slate burrow]

Moral of the story: Love is good and has potential to be a top 5-10 QB but saying he’s there now is just your packers bias speaking and not actually a good take

[junior aspen]

Don’t compare both those seasons please

[junior aspen]

I think that’s been rested but it’s about the WRs now

[vocal spindle]

Tua beat love in qbr, passer rating, touchdown % int % success % and completion % as well as all per attempt, per completion and per game stats, love only beat Tua in total stats because he played 6 more games

[tiny topaz]

Tua in 2021: 7-5 record 67.8 comp % 2653 yards 12 games started 16 TD 10 INT 55.7 QBR 204.1 YPG 90.1 Rate
Love in 2023: 9-8 record 64.2 comp % 4159 yards 17 games started 32 TD 11 INT 62.1 QBR 244.6 YPG 96.1 Rate

[tiny topaz]

who was a playoff team with a younger team tho

all ima sa

[vocal spindle]

Tua got injured at the beginning of one of those games which is why he missed the rest of the season

So he played 11 games

[slate burrow]

I’m gonna go bet on Japanese baseball

Adios

[vocal spindle]

Case keenum and Blake bortles > Lamar Jackson bc they went further in the playoffs right?

Using a team achievement is a stupid argument when comparing individuals

Bill Russell > Michael Jordan bc he has more rings right?

Shoot Robert horry > Michael Jordan right?

[slate burrow]

You keep talking about age bro

[vocal spindle]

Comparing a dude who didn’t even play in the playoffs bc he was injured, played in a difference conference, different opponents, different schedule during the season, that’s so idiotic

[slate burrow]

What does that have to do with anything

[tiny topaz]

Tua in 2023: 11-6 record 69.3 comp % 4624 yards 17 games started 29 TD 14 INT 60.8 QBR 272 YPG 101.1 Rate
Love in 2023: 9-8 record 64.2 comp % 4159 yards 17 games started 32 TD 11 INT 62.1 QBR 244.6 YPG 96.1 Rate

[vocal spindle]

Exactly, age doesn’t matter for ANYTHING in a current argument

[vocal spindle]

So Tua was better in basically everything?

[slate burrow]

If we talking age

Stroud got it done

[tiny topaz]

jags and viks had a way better D than us

[tiny topaz]

WITH TYREEK FUCKING HILL

[vocal spindle]

Vikings have NEVER had a good defense

[tiny topaz]

A LIL FACTOR UR FORGETTING KIND SIR

[slate burrow]

When tf was the Vikings defense good

[vocal spindle]

I love how we get past this entire tyreek hill thing and prove tyreek hill isn’t the one reason Tua is good and then when he realizes it he circles back to tyreek

[tiny topaz]

QBR AND QB-INT RATIO ARE LIKE THE TWO BIGGEST FACTORS

[vocal spindle]

Tua only 8 months older than Jordan love btw

[tiny topaz]

thats on him thats his bad, he shouldve started over a 4x MVP

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-tucker-oh-man-omg-face-palm-oh-no-gif-17195543

[tiny topaz]

like what is that argument

[vocal spindle]

Add in every per completion, per attempt, per game stat, as well as success rate, wr ints, drop rates, and all in air stats, Tua destroys him in all of them

[slate burrow]

You guys are both speaking from bias standpoints

[tiny topaz]

sayingh drop rates for a qb???????

[slate burrow]

Tua is better than love tho

[vocal spindle]

Literally, I don’t know why age has ever come up in a discussion about who’s currently better

[vocal spindle]

Your WR’s drop rates affect your yardage and completion rate does it not?

[tiny topaz]

ight gn yall, no hard feelings b ut man id rather pay love 60 mil than pay tua 40 mil

[slate burrow]

Tonka you’re looking too much into hypotheticals instead of reality

[tiny topaz]

IN REALITY WHO WON A PLAYOFF GAM,E

[vocal spindle]

I’m not even biased, I could easily argue Tua over a lot of high up players, dude was a top 5 mvp candidate, but ik he’s not better than dudes who are clearly better than him

But love is not better than him

[tiny topaz]

and dont say bc thye played the chiefs bc the PACKERS BEAT THEM

[vocal spindle]

Case keenum made the chip, love didn’t

[tiny topaz]

with that logic eli manning clears marino.

so keep going at that

[vocal spindle]

Ahh yes the warm weather passing offense when they played in weather so cold fans were hospitalized with frostbite were supposed to win against the back to back Super Bowl champs at home in the playoffs

[vocal spindle]

That’s your logic not mine

[tiny topaz]

ur not undwerstandfing what im saying

[vocal spindle]

You just further proved the error in your logic dawg

[tiny topaz]

ur making it simple whern its compex

[vocal spindle]

You’re making it simple by saying “who won a playoff game”

[twin socket]

Eli

[vocal spindle]

I use your exact logic and then you prove how wrong it is bc it’s being made too simple without realizing it’s YOUR LOGIC

[tiny topaz]

packers did dolphins didnt. packers beat the chiefs thar very szn

[twin socket]

What’s ur take on dis

[slate burrow]

Thats a very odd stat to go off of to determine who is the better player. One game doesn’t define the season. Also I’d much rather play Dallas who is known playoff chokers compared to the chiefs…

[vocal spindle]

Did they beat the chiefs at home in the playoffs?

[vocal spindle]

^

Stupid logic

[tiny topaz]

shit bro. david carr is better than dna marino w no chips. like no bro it is not that simpel. some players have abiggher role on their respetive team than oters.\

[slate burrow]

Give Miami that game against KC at home

And they probably win

[vocal spindle]

Love can and prolly will be better in the future, but Tua is better rn, this shouldn’t even be an argument

[twin socket]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-gif-21900964

[slate burrow]

Also think Hill, Waddle, Mostert, and Achane all banged up going into the playoffs

Packers were fully healthy

[tiny topaz]

give love tyreek and watch love go for the record