Andrew Tate Discussion

[inner fable]

Don't you agree?

[fiery ginkgo]

im confused what war

[inner fable]

The one women don't wanna fight

[fiery ginkgo]

:v

oh i get it

wait that's dumb as hell why does war justify not giving women equal rights to men?

or is it like an argument that strawmans women who want equal rights but dont wanna go to war

i dont think anybody, man or woman, wants to go to war so i dont get the point

[inner fable]

Women have the choice

Equal rights mean they get the same obligations as men too

Obligation to go to war in critical situations

[dusk shard]

Women dont really ask for physical equality. More like cerebral. The vast majority know and accept that men are physically stronger. But more women wanna go into the military. Although uhhhh ppl think that’s just dead weight💀

[inner fable]

Isn't it the case?

But I get your point

[dusk shard]

Yeah

I mean i think that some ppl are not okay with women intruding some fields because there might be a societal or economical loss. But then they also dont want women to only get the benefits and not the downsides when they want more than their roles as women

Ig ppl would rather have women keep to their assigned roles

[delicate ravine]

Equality means that both men and women should help the war effort I don’t disagree

But since men are on average stronger they are usually on the battle field

Whereas women help in other ways

And if there is a woman stronger than a man then yes I think they should go to war over that man

[dusk shard]

The trouble I have with Andrew Tate is something Hampton pointed out in one of his first videos, the idea that no one should sell you your own health and happiness, and that I think is Tate's main MO, this idea that if you follow his steps you can be rich and successful like him

[open apex]

Well no he runs a pyramid scheme 💀

I would say just follow the general advice he gives and not the specifics

I think he's good for people who are losers so he can motivate them to get better

[dusk shard]

He got arrested again for human trafficking

I was right about it

Something very shady about what he’s peddling

Obviously he is not an upstanding man

[fringe hatch]

I kinda feel uneasy about him having a cult of personality. I am open to see some of his content and accept when he is right, but I am not interested in him.

[drowsy viper]

looks to me it is still allegations and charges, and that he's yet to be convicted

not a fan of the guy but it IS an important distinction to make

[dusk shard]

While it is just allegations right now, it was significant enough for them to officially book him considering this is the second raid the Romanians have conducted on him

I'll also admit here and now that I'm pretty biased against him so that is impacting my opinion about his current arrest

[drowsy viper]

I'm not exactly an expert on the topic but as far as I know, he was let go in the terms of "ongoing investigation" and they got more information from someone claiming she got lured into flying into Romania to come live with the British millionaire only to be met with threats forcing her to do cam videos, the bad kind

which of course, alerted the Romanian police who recently found his location through a pizza box (lol)

and that what happened sounded like organized crime, which is why they're looking for him more adamantly

in which case, I think there is still a chance it could be false allegations and that he'll be let go (yet again)

all in all, I'm just giving the guy a benefit of a doubt, I pretty much dislike everything about the dude lol

[dusk shard]

That's fair, as someone that hasn't watched him and only vaguely knows about him, it doesn't sound too far out of the realm of possibility, but we'll see how it plays out. If nothing, I just think the image of him being led away by police is always going to be used against him

[drowsy viper]

of course, his 1st arrest has been used against him for ages now

what led to his 2nd arrest is undoubtedly funny though

arrested because of a pizza box

can't make this shit up

[dusk shard]

LMAO true, and it wouldn't have happened if Elon hadn't let him back on Twitter

[drowsy viper]

brother just HAD to pick a fight with Greta

[dusk shard]

I'd like to know how much the police car he was in emits a year

[open apex]

Omg that shit was the most stupidest beef in all of Twitter 😭

[fiery ginkgo]

that was wild bruh

[pliant cosmos]

Again?

[dusk shard]

Yea

[fiery ginkgo]

Thoughts on the tatester getting arrested

@north canopy

[knotty sail]

Yeah twitter is a shit hole

And the people who dick ride greta are worse cause her roast wasn't clever or witty at all

She was like email me at [email protected]

and just for the record i am no ones side

but i do dislike greta

what did she even do?

i genuinely dont know what she is well known for besides sumn to do with the climate

[dusk shard]

that’s what’s annoying?

lol

so?

I hear they are the usual work hard and stuff like that

well. A way for him to spread his influence

And otherwise he based?

I see

Gotcha. Ig i would have hoped his stuff on women to also be annoying

[drowsy viper]

some stuff of Tate I've seen that makes me hate him are:
actively shitting on other people doing different things
talked shit about body builders not being fighters
obviously the misogyny
how he pretty much brainwashes lost young men into this toxic alpha male rabbit hole, a lot of others do the same but that's a different topic.

oh and his godawful and annoying fans, which is technically just the same thing as the last point

[drowsy viper]

what did she do, you ask, and you answered it yourself

[delicate ravine]

hes been arrested this morning

[north canopy]

this is new

idc about his arrest i screenshoted and recorded everything from trw program so im good

idk why he even got arrested

full album

[unreal steeple]

https://youtu.be/2rhslYeQyaM

this vid explains who andrew is

perfectly

[stark thistle]

https://youtu.be/khT1BC90fHw

[stark thistle]

Aw man you beat me to it

[unreal steeple]

reak

real

[dusk shard]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmzBhmaoINr/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

[north canopy]

you losers waste too much time thinking about others

who gives a fuck about tate or what happened i am in his program and i still can't give 2 fucks

i don't understand how yall can waste so much time and cope

[drowsy viper]

14 and deep ✊

[fiery ginkgo]

AND IT WORKED

That's what's hilarious I think

She did such a low brow roast and Tate took the bait and got butthurt about it

[fiery ginkgo]

Ur a loser get reky

Rekt

I just think it's fun to spend time just talking about stuff and sometimes it can be people

Just cuz it's technically a waste of time doesn't make it any less meaningful to me ye

Like, hobbies are generally a "waste of time" but that doesn't mean that the time we took dedicating towards that hobby was a waste because it was meaningful to us

[knotty sail]

But what did she do as a climate activist to garner a reputation?

[fiery ginkgo]

Roast world leaders in a speech

That's about it

[north canopy]

ha women

fat women*

[fiery ginkgo]

wut

[north canopy]

sorry i ment to say degenerate masculine fat women with no life

[fiery ginkgo]

Wut

[north canopy]

wut your life

[fiery ginkgo]

Everybody knows masculine women r cool

💪

[north canopy]

yep

so cool and attractive

makes me wanna hang myself when i see one

[fiery ginkgo]

Gamer 😔

[north canopy]

yes indeed you do play video games

[fiery ginkgo]

Ohma would not want that for you

[north canopy]

ohma just ignores women and fights

[fiery ginkgo]

True

But Karla is cool

I forgot how to spell her name but she's cool

[north canopy]

karura but she aint masculine she actuall has emotions

even tho annoying af

[fiery ginkgo]

She has muscles which is pretty masculine I think

But anyways tomboys are cool sauce 💪💪💪

[north canopy]

and she is femenine

working out as a women does not make you masculine

unless you look like some fucking tren user

[fiery ginkgo]

Tren lol

Leanbeefpatty is cool

👍👍👍

[dusk shard]

Ur such a cute Femboy 😍

[north canopy]

a masculine women is a women that smokes drinks has no emotions basicly acts like a man

[unique nimbus]

Don't tell people to do that

[fiery ginkgo]

Wut

[north canopy]

ah fuck i cant say k y s

[north canopy]

fat fuck

[fiery ginkgo]

Brotha brotha

[north canopy]

long hair = not femboy

[dusk shard]

It’s not just the long hair buddy

[north canopy]

skinny fuck with no life = femboy

[fiery ginkgo]

But anyways I don't see anything wrong with masculine women- if ye don't like women who acts like men don't that mean you just don't like men?

[dusk shard]

Do you know what you are

[north canopy]

what my actuall not skinny neck and good face structure

[dusk shard]

Your neck is nice I will say

Do you do boxing or MMA?

Doesn’t look like a wrestlers neck

[north canopy]

no man desires a masculine women unless the guy has negative test

[north canopy]

mma and gym

[dusk shard]

Nice

[fiery ginkgo]

🗿

Facial structure

[north canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

and jawline

@fiery ginkgo define an masculine women

your def of one

[fiery ginkgo]

I would say a woman that displays typically male traits and predominately male interests

[north canopy]

such as#

[fiery ginkgo]

Like sports folks- they are to a degree displaying masculine traits by participating in what was a male dominated activity

I think it's cool as heck

[north canopy]

working out and training does not make you masculine tho

you can be a buff mf working out your entire life and still you cry all day have a skinny neck and you care about dumb shit and talk nonesense

[fiery ginkgo]

But that's why I think it's a spectrum

Like how you can have more masculine guys than others right

[north canopy]

for guys it depends on their level of test and how they act

if a guy is always shy sheltered and deppresed he's femenine (and that's the type of man no woman would want to touch with a stick that's a km long)

and those kinds of men are attracted to tall big women

the men who are the opposite of that only desire a femenine woman

that doesn't mean a degenerate woman

working out and working on yourself is great

[fiery ginkgo]

I just don't think it's all that black and white- tough masculine guys can enjoy doing what are traditionally feminine things

[north canopy]

leanbeefpatty is a perfect example she worksout to look good she still acts femenine

[fiery ginkgo]

Also oddly enough this is pretty popular w women I think 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[north canopy]

what being with a loser?

when have you seen a good looking girl with a man that has no hygine and hasn't seen the sun in years

[fiery ginkgo]

Charlie d'amelio likes skinny straw dudes 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[north canopy]

who the fuck is that

[fiery ginkgo]

Arguably one of the most successful people on the TikTok platform

Has her own reality tv show (it sucks) and her sister was also an actress in a (garbage) medical show

[north canopy]

lmao the first picture i see of her is a deathstare

the fuck

[fiery ginkgo]

Multimillionaire i think w brand endorsements

[north canopy]

and she likes a guy that looks like this

one sec

this lol

[fiery ginkgo]

Ye

[north canopy]

i HIGHLY doubt that

[fiery ginkgo]

Well he's handsome but same build if not a little less muscly

[north canopy]

aha

what would you say your type of guy is are you into sticks or actuall people who do something with their life

[fiery ginkgo]

Lol ain't it obvious?

[north canopy]

not really

[fiery ginkgo]

Hmhm

Well am not into guys (I'm not gay brah)

[north canopy]

welp i've lost all hope

[fiery ginkgo]

Xd

[north canopy]

yeah very funny

[fiery ginkgo]

My bad bro I didn't know you swung that way

[north canopy]

while smoking a fat cig with my lads

ima burn that flag

fucking lgbtq shit

[fiery ginkgo]

Bi?

[north canopy]

discusting

the pride flag ima burn it

[fiery ginkgo]

C'mon man they did nothin wrong

[north canopy]

there i asked in the new years group

this will be fun

[fiery ginkgo]

Wut

[north canopy]

we will burn the pride flag at new years

its on croatian tho

can't wait to record that shit

and make an edit of it

[fiery ginkgo]

:v but why

They didn't do anything wrong

[north canopy]

they are alive

[fiery ginkgo]

Bruh

That's a terrible thing to say dude

[north canopy]

hahahaa

ah

that's funny

[knotty sail]

@north canopy

[north canopy]

whatcha gonna do

[knotty sail]

Nothing it's just a funny gif I like and felt like a good opportunity to use it

[knotty sail]

I do find it a bit hypocritical however you spent like 40 sumn mins trying to suggest sun was a masculine woman

[north canopy]

hh

[knotty sail]

And well simply trying to spread ur ideology

[north canopy]

you

are

https://tenor.com/view/yazid-mustache-feeling-handsome-beard-eyeglasses-gif-15444021

[knotty sail]

Crazy

Have a good day mate

[north canopy]

you 2

[north agate]

Men are meant to be feminine

Submissive

[inner fable]

I disagree

They are not MEANT to be feminine

[north agate]

Lol

[normal plover]

Occasionally he says smtn good but occasionally he says smtn really dumb, just like any "young teen motivational" channel. It can really help you but thats not allways the case. You see this motivational stuff has become a trend so after few months or a few years it will all be gone

Just focus on yourself first and seek advice from others when theres really no other option, but not from mainstream mfs

[inner fable]

Tin sounds like an average Andrew Tate fan.

[fossil eagle]

DAAAAAMN SON! What a badass!

Man this guy was worse than I thought lol

[drowsy viper]

her speech inspired others, and she has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for 4 years straight

it's like MLK, Gandhi, Mandela

on the flip side, Hitler

a bona fide and real "influencer", you get me

her speech has inspired thousands of people to hold their own protests around the world

pretty big feat

do note that to make someone join a protest is a harder feat than convince someone

so you can't really compare how many Tate and Thunberg has "influenced"

plus she started fighting for immediate climate action at 15

[severe sapphire]

Rip bozo

[north agate]

im so sad you banned him before I got the chance to play

[inner fable]

Seemed like a chill dude

He inspires me to start a martial art even faster

[fossil eagle]

Wasn't me

would've been me if I saw this earlier tho lol

[fringe hatch]

The idea of burning pride flags and filming it for no reason was weird and like attention seeking.

[fringe hatch]

Will you see Tate's martial arts competitions to learn about his techniques or seeing parts of his interviews where he speaks about his kickboxing time?

[unreal vector]

naw i have seen some of recent news about him

seems like

L

[fringe hatch]

I heard him being a suspect of human trafficking before.

[inner fable]

He gives some valuable advices about fighting

[strange junco]

real

[fringe hatch]

It's a given since he is a kickboxing champion, although I don't really know him well enough.

[unreal steeple]

real

[weary lake]

i think alot of people believe everything the media says about him and automatically base their opinions of him solely on that, his advice is what young men need nowadays including me because i think in the long run we need masculine men to run society

hard times create strong men, strong men create easy times, easy times create soft men, soft mean create hard times and the cycle repeats itself

[fiery ginkgo]

no

[knotty sail]

dafuq u cant just say no and not provide an arguement tf? come on bruh i want to see some beef

[weary lake]

😂😂

some ppl just wanna disagree to disagree

[fiery ginkgo]

I gotchu 🤝

I think Tate's mindset is backwards and regressive and I formed this opinion through watching the actual content he makes. His advice, a good significant chunk of it, sucks and I think causes a large amoung of the issues men face today

For example men typically lose custody of their kids to women. Why? Because historically speaking women have been pushed by society to be mothers; naturally, society's laws would reflect these expectations and make the custody laws in favor of women because their "role" is to be the caretaker of the kids and thus would be the ideal choice for who receives custody. By Tate trying to reinforce these expectations, he does nothing but reinforce this unfair stereotype and men lose their kids in divorces

Or when he talks about mental health; he is an avid opponent for therapy and considers it only for "weak" people. How is it weak to want to take action and seek help? But I digress; he uses the story of a German girl who saw her mom die in a plane crash and then went right back to work, and he basically uses the argument of "if x had it this bad and went on with life, so can you"! However, what he fails to recognize is that she later reportedly suffered from PTSD, survivors guilt, midnight terrors, hallucinations, etc. Etc. that all could've been prevented had she received proper help. But she didn't.

Or we can also talk about how most if not all of his arguments stem from his personal experience which he presents as fact from some reason. It's ironic: his whole shtick is "breaking out of the matrix" and "fact over feeling", but literally all of his points stem from his own feelings about something and not fact. For example, most if not all his opinions on women stem from his own personal experience, but then he states his opinions as factual which just aint cool

[weary lake]

damn i wasnt expecting that 😂😂

[weary lake]

u did go super saiyan there

i’m too tired to come up w a response rn so tomorrow morning we will continue 😂

[fiery ginkgo]

Yessir 🫡

[dusk shard]

Tate made me become stronger he made me change my bad habits

Because of him I have become a better person

[fiery ginkgo]

thats cool

[unreal steeple]

AGGAGAGA

LOOOOOOL

bro

he deadass

scams kids for 50$ a month

[weary lake]

i think that’s mostly true but also in todays world nearly 70% of divorces are initiated by women and based on the judicial system favoring women the fathers only have a 35% chance of receiving custody over their children

[unreal steeple]

who cares

bros a scammer

imagine using kids for money

lol

[weary lake]

as far as mental health i dont agree with everything he says but i do think that if you’ve gone through severely traumatic events you should try and find some help whether that be therapy or something else but i would like to think that he mostly targets the audience of people that say their depressed or are sad for stupid reasons which may be due to not getting validation from other people or maybe because of their current situation in life. i think his message is no one is gona help you so help yourself if you’re fat and unhappy and depressed then exercise and make some money and you’ll be more confident and everything

[weary lake]

i mean if you think providing people with a community of like minded people that wanna succeed and giving them resources such as teachers who have already succeeded in certain areas of life such as e-commerce or stocks etc is scamming them then that’s pretty dumb of you to think 😂 it’s not a free ticket to get rich he just provides them with a community and resources for those that have the work ethic to succeed

i’m not in his discord but ik what it entails

[unreal steeple]

bro uses kids that lack in self confidence to make money of them cringe asf

50% for the most basic shit u can google or watch a yt vid about

50$*

if thats not a scam idk what a scam is then

[weary lake]

well he explains what it is and people buy it?

how is that scamming 😂

[unreal steeple]

in short tate is pathetic i dont want to see him

[unreal steeple]

??????

its like i watched a 20minute video

[weary lake]

you can believe whatever you want but he is empowering young men all over to want to be successful in life and in health

i dont see anything wrong with that

[unreal steeple]

u don'

u don't understand what hes doing

and that hes a peace of shit that uses man that lack in confidence for money xD

[weary lake]

yes believe everything u see on the internet im sure they’re telling the truth 100% 😂

[unreal steeple]

50$ for 10 minute of research

+not guaranteed to work

[unreal steeple]

ur the one defeding tate xD

[weary lake]

of course it’s not guaranteed you have to work for it 😂😂

i think a lot of people like you base your opinions on things you see on the internet with no credibility and it’s sad to see how you’re so easily swayed but everyone is free to their own opinion so

[north agate]

regardless of my opinion on him personally i dont get the problem people have with his course. its 50$ for compiled information on how to be an entrepreneur and start your own business. Keyword: Compiled. Thats where the added value is.
Why do people not like this? hes very clear with what hes selling to my knowledge.

[weary lake]

you explained it a lot better than me 🤝

[unreal steeple]

????????????

xdddddd

start bussines

[weary lake]

now you’re just arguing to argue 😂 you can’t put it any simpler than that

[north agate]

yes?

[unreal vector]

i like this chat

[north agate]

I like seeing you here

not this chat but in general

[unreal vector]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-love-hi-bye-cat-gif-5848836

nice to see you too

[weary lake]

#freetate

[unreal steeple]

if u think tate

is a good person

u got no brain

[unreal vector]

🤔

[unreal steeple]

yall like hi mfor saying shit like

vaping is bad???

yall think he helps young man

but in reality

hes just a typical "alpha sigma male"

that scams kids

[north agate]

how is he scamming kids tarmaa

[unreal vector]

idk man i'm a girl, tho still i dont really have an opinion. i'm more of a neutral about him. Watched him say some quality stuff, sometimes things i'm like "tf have i just watched". I dont really know what is going on so i'd rather not spread lies about him or something

sometimes i would just watch some videos because they're funny

[unreal steeple]

i already said

[unreal vector]

tournerdanslevidevide

[unreal steeple]

that hes shit is a scam

50%

50$*

for free shit on internet

that ucan learn in less then 30 minutes

FOR FREE

how is that not a scam

most basing shit about drop shipping for 50$ A MONTH

its free guys

using kids for money

shit is sad

[north agate]

It’s very obvious your have no intention of hearing any voice other than your own. Feel free to refer back to my message whenever you like

[unreal steeple]

i mean

i just said why he sucks ass

xd

[weary lake]

u are delusional and i dont mean to be rude or argumentative in any way but it is very obvious you heard some stuff about him from your friends or maybe some people online and you base your opinions on him from that, you should do some research and base your opinion on that and not a 10 min youtube video you saw

how old are you?

[unreal steeple]

i mean ik that callling some1 delusional doesn't mean ur mean to me or shit lol

just saying that hes a scammer making money of kids that dont understand shit yet

18

[unreal steeple]

?

i did research on andrew

like almost a year ago

xD

[weary lake]

well there’s no point in having this conversation with you because you’ve already made up your mind and don’t wanna listen to anyone else 😂

[unreal steeple]

if u explain to me

how hes shit is not a scam

ill say sorry and that im a dumb fuck

[weary lake]

i’d rather talk to @fiery ginkgo

[weary lake]

he explained it very simply here

[unreal steeple]

yea cuz paying 50$ for how to drop ship basics aint a scam?

xd

hes shit aint explained well

itsn ot about building bussines

its about basics of drop shipping

[weary lake]

that’s literally what it is it’s not only about drop shipping

[unreal steeple]

lmaoo

yk that hes shit u can find on net

[weary lake]

have you even been in it?

[unreal steeple]

in 10 minutes

and in less then 10 minutes on yt?

[weary lake]

okay and he tells you exactly what it is

[unreal steeple]

ive seen leaks n shit

[unreal steeple]

yea

guess who buys that shit

KIDS

KIDS

HES USING KIDS TO GET MONEY

AS SIMPLE AS THAT

[weary lake]

you have no idea what the % of kids buying it is you’re just making an assumption

[unreal steeple]

andrew him self said that alot of people build hjes shit are kids

XD

[weary lake]

can you show me the video

[unreal steeple]

it was a yt short

thati saw like 5 months ago

made by people that he paid too

to post clips of him n shit

it was also in the 50$ h shit or whatever its called

to post clips of him

[unreal vector]

smart way to get more popular

no wonder i saw so many shorts of tate popping up my yt

even tho i never searched him or something

[unreal steeple]

yea xD

[weary lake]

well he is completely honest and doesn’t lie about anything so it’s not really a scam

[unreal steeple]

are u sure?

he doesn't openly talk about that hes shit is basic drop shipping '

he tells u that u will make money of that

if u work

he doesnt really openly talk whats in it

[weary lake]

i’ve seen the videos in his course and they are literally multiple 30min and 50min videos teaching you everything about each subject, again ITS NOT ONLY DROP SHIPPING

[unreal steeple]

What is it then

also i can bet all my money that 99% of shit therte u can find on yt in under 5 minutes

for free

also im not even gonna get into that human trafficking stuff

ye hes just a clown internet

[weary lake]

you can find anything on the internet but you can’t find the community of like minded people that you get to communicate and network with

[unreal steeple]

aint no way u just said that

[weary lake]

this just proves my point that you believe anything u see on the internet 😂😂

[unreal steeple]

why did he got arrested then?

he said he just got swatted for no reason xD

andrew in a nutshell https://youtu.be/2rhslYeQyaM

[weary lake]

on false allegations

have you seen any evidence?

[unreal steeple]

u insta believe that hes innocent?

[weary lake]

first it was human trafficking and now it’s money laundering

they don’t have anything on him

[unreal steeple]

being accused of human trafficking again doesnt seem normal yk?

they wouldn't just swat some guy for no reason xD

[pliant cosmos]

Nah guys the matrix is just tripping ong Andy potato is a huge giga chad ong no cap fr fr

[unreal steeple]

LMFAO

[weary lake]

they did it because the amount of influence he has over young men & romanias government is extremely corrupt

[pliant cosmos]

He wouldn't do laundry, that's a woman's job smh my head

[unreal steeple]

real

[weary lake]

so ofc they could arrest him on false charges 😂

[unreal steeple]

hes entire carrier is build on young stupid ass man

[weary lake]

yeah on empowering them

[unreal steeple]

he got alot of money to start with cuz of the sex cams he doesn't even teach u shit that he did

xD

[unreal steeple]

Yea

bro

sure

they said the same thing about hamz and sneeko

or wth he was called

XD

[unreal steeple]

lmao

broski is not even that smart

a teenage girl outsmarted him on twitter xD

you could also argue that hes shit is not a scam

but big stinky trash

[weary lake]

i dont blame you for having the mindset you do as you get older maybe you’ll learn

hopefully 😂

[unreal steeple]

bro

got no arguments

gotta hit my age

to win the argument

ez pz team diff

"aw he tells young man working out is good and vaping bad"
bro no fcking way he a genius

[weary lake]

no i can keep going but you don’t listen to anything but your own side of the argument 😂

it’s deeper than that

but you wouldn’t understand

[fiery ginkgo]

Khan Academy is free 👍

[fiery ginkgo]

To be fair women for the most part of the last century had virtually no marriage rights (I mean they couldn't even vote in the US 'til like early 1900s) so I'd assume that they're just exercising their right to divorce which I think isnt necessarily a bad thing. I think marriage itself is again an issue that's pushed towards young men and women and essentially legally trapping them in relationships they may find later down the road they don't want. Anywho, what conclusion do you draw to when you see 70% of women initiate divorces? Also, again I think the laws are designed the way they are because of the societal expectations people like Tate are pushing, so ultimately in regards to men more likely to lose their children, that's because of people like Tate who perpetuate the gender roles which the laws are based around

[fiery ginkgo]

I think his message of taking action is good, but why not just also go to therapy? Tate is a strong advocate for not going to therapy and I see no real reason why. Even if your problems are "trivial", why should they not go to therapy anyways if they want to? Or, why not go both to therapy AND the gym? It seems counterproductive to mental health to only tie people down to doing just one activity to recuperate, no?

Aside from his opinions though, I just think in general he's a huge hypocrite and poser for a plethora of reason I can go into depth if you want

[native night]

I find him kinda funny for some reason, just the way he acts in general is funny to me I have no idea why. But in all seriousness I think he occasionally has great advice, but 90% of the time his advice is either meh, or just completely bad.

[north agate]

Yes, I agree. I wouldn’t purchase the course myself. My point was that it’s not a scam

[knotty sail]

tbf ur arguements are just as L as his

[knotty sail]

average khan academy enjoyer

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

dont know if HU is a scam or not but if it isnt there are probably other resources to learn from that maybe less pricier

or hell maybe its possible to figure it out your own

[delicate vale]

So good looking

[dusk shard]

No. It’s been human l trafficking the whole time. And it’s been ongoing for months. Not random

Also. It’s just as sad that ppl believe he is completely innocent.

if u wanted fairness youd be fine with things being looked into

It’s good to give ‘victims’ that chance. Because like u said it is possible that he is guilty just as much as it is possible for him to not be. Since we dont know jack shit

[dusk shard]

And no. This is just laughable. What does andrew have on the government. Its not like the gov is out to get him for telling young men to work out and get their shit together 💀

None of the stuff he says is a threat to the government. Especially not to the romanian one😂

[north agate]

guys, I am sure you can get better info for free. I am merely stating that its not a "scam" as some have said.

[dusk shard]

Oh yeah

I mean

He doesnt force u to spend the money or anything

[north agate]

personally, I wouldnt buy it. but if you want to go for it. you gonna get some normal information

compiled

[dusk shard]

Dont label something u know nothing about as FALSE allegations. Be fair to all parties. That is disregarding potential victims. And if u say youre sure its fake allegations then youre the same as the other side who condemn him while not knowing shit

Also i love how

If he gets found guilty it’s corruption

But if he is not, then it aint corruption hah

Or. On the other side then it’s still corruption.

[north agate]

While I understand where you are coming from, its "innocent until proven guilty" not the other way around.

[dusk shard]

It’s reasonable suspicion

I agree

But u dont hear me out

[north agate]

I agree

[dusk shard]

Ppl want him to just be out of the thing

Like for the police and all to leave him alone

And claim that it’s FALSE allegations

Which isn’t ok either

these are serious allegations.

[north agate]

I've had my personal convictions about him being dubious, just a gut feeling but I wouldn't accuse him of human trafficking lol

[dusk shard]

If something happened to u you wouldnt like to be dismissed as fake allegations without any ground

[north agate]

I agree, the investigation should go through its natural course

[dusk shard]

he did say in previous videos that he used the ‘loverboy’ way to get women to work.

But i think that for the rest

It will be his word against the woman’s

And he has the money to get out of it. The system is easily bought

[north agate]

he was a camgirl manager wasnt he? By virtue of the profession I am sure things like this will surface.

I just think the investigation should continue, and well see how things go from there

because there is no info out lol

[dusk shard]

Oh yeah. But he did admit to manipulation in some ppl’s eyes

[dusk shard]

yeah

Hopefully he innocent

[dusk shard]

They are not really supposed to disclose anything😂

[dusk shard]

Dude u assume just as much as he does….

[drowsy viper]

Tate's shiny bald head

[weary lake]

yeah from what i now understand it’s when he was working with the cam girls a while back before i didnt know this if anything it’s sex trafficking

[weary lake]

globalists are trying to feminize men because men are the ones who start revolutions and they don’t want anyone to push back when they start their new world order and andrew is trying to make men find their masculinity again that’s why they have a problem with him

[dusk shard]

this is some wild theory

We need strong men

[dusk shard]

Yes. That is claimed to be sex traficking

[weary lake]

can i pm u

[dusk shard]

Sure. Ill add and then unadd if youd like

[fiery ginkgo]

Reeee

[native night]

Ah yes, the infamous Bottom G. I enjoy the entertainment value Tate gives by simply existing. I only agree with about 5 - 10% of what he says, but so much wild shit happens to him, and he says so many outrageous things, that I am honestly glad he was born onto this planet.

[fiery ginkgo]

I love bottom G his dance moves are next level

[inner fable]

I mean, I fully agree with what you say xDD

He truly is incredible

[native night]

His dance moves are indeed incredible, I loved that one video of him doing the splits in front of a bunch of people. The Bottom G may be an upcoming dancer?

[fiery ginkgo]

I hope so

Remember the classic where bottom G is up against the corner wall and he's just busting it down?

I didn't know a MAN could do that but now I know and for that my life is better

[native night]

Yeah, my biggest dream to to become as good of a dancer as him

hopefully ill make it

[tribal cargo]

Also no

[tribal cargo]

Any stupid mf could do that, becauss he said one or two good things like ‘Gym improves you as a person’ doesn’t make any blanket statement he says true

Also side note dion is such a fake alpha male, he looks so stupid and every opinion he has is simple verbatim

[tribal cargo]

And also quite frankly I’m guessing you’re a young teenager, you’re at a really impressionable age, you will quite literally believe anything you read

[native night]

As a young teenager, I can agree. We are quite stupid and impressionable, and I wouldn't even be surprised if in some alternate universe I somehow liked Tate, considering the stupidity of our pubescent minds. Of course I think some of what Tate says has value, but the people who idolize him and think of him as the best person on the planet are mostly young teens like me.

[knotty sail]

Me and my friend find some of the stuff he says funny

Though we don't actually think he's right in most cases

[native night]

yeah same here

one of the funniest things he has said is "The Matrix has attacked me." whenever he was arrested

[unreal steeple]

"vaping bad working out good" am i a smart person now?

[native night]

most intelligent person ive ever seen, please teach me the ways!

[unreal steeple]

do drugsd

[native night]

As Jesse Pinkman, I have quite a bit of experience with those.

[fringe hatch]

I have more pressing matters right now other than try to give him the benefit of the doubt or to fully evaluate him, but for now I will focus on taking his comments with a grain of salt.

[native night]

based answer

[inner fable]

He looks like gigachad and speaks like gigachad. We have a true sigma in this server

[native night]

agreed

[dusk shard]

The reason he is so popular is because he is very transgressive. we’ve went so hard in this direction of censorship that every person like that who gains the ‘courage’ to speak up will produce attention. Because of how ok we are with censoring ppl truth is no longer the most appreciated thing. But rather courage. And his fans mistake courage for truth sometimes

[dusk shard]

Ouuuuu

[dusk shard]

Obviously not.

[dusk shard]

It is really annoying seeing people say shit like “oh all you say is truth” “they want to censor the truth” sounds like fucking dorks

[dusk shard]

But those kinds are everywhere

[unreal steeple]

?

he is scamming young man with no confidences to buy hes ass discord where he tells you how to do push ups and basic shit u can find on internet in 5 minutes

[unreal steeple]

WDYM NAH LOL

u havent seen hes shit yet

if u say that

also idk how smart he really is if he got arrested and leaked where he is bc he was arguing on twitter

overrated clown

HOLY SHIT

so u think every millionaire is smart?

he got rich of sex cams+scamming kids

he made some money on boxing too

but like round 100k

he deadass paid people to post clips of him so he can promote hes shitty 50$ discord

bc of sex cams

idk if ur even reading what in saying

bro

if ur good at chess

doesnt mean ur smart

LOL

its like i said i was smart cuz im good at league of legends

braindead argument

read what i said

that doesnt mean ur smart.

broski

no wonder why u like tate

lol

if hes so smart as i said

why did he leak where he lives

bc he was mad on twitter????

it is

shows how big of a clown he is

doesn't change the fact

lol

bro

they arrested him

bc of the vid

so they knew that he is still in the country

why didn't they arrest him before the vid?

xd

its useless

ITS BASIC SHIT

why do i argue with a tate fanboy

xd

"tate boss"

xD

that shit is funny

in reality hes like sneako

but has money and bitches

also hes main source of money is from man that get no bitches and think they can escape the "matrix"

hes just an internet clown that doesn't care about people's mental health and just wants to make as much money as he possible cna

[pliant cosmos]

He makes good points when it comes to society imo

I watched a video yesterday where he said that socrates was executed because he was corrupting the youth, because when the male youth is strong, the government is weak.

[shy abyss]

TOP G!

He has good points and some shit points

[knotty sail]

Statement is largely untrue, yes some gms do have high iq but most of them aren't exceptional in that department. It does build logical thinking and memorization but only Specifically for chess. Hikaru did a mensa iq test and he got 102 but I'm p sure he became gm at age 15 so he's a genius when it came to chess

[fiery ginkgo]

He does not

At least morally

Clearly his exercise and martial arts advice are solid but religiously not really

He's a Muslim yet he's narcissistic, materialistic, wasteful, doesn't read (the Quran or any book for that matter willingly), and also indulges in sex and even pimped out his own GFs in a cam girl service

All these things are vices in Islam I'd assume

[tribal mulch]

I have never seen a "mentality guru" that contradicts themselves more tbh

[dusk shard]

He is probably not Muslim

As in he has never said the words that would make him a Muslim

[inner fable]

Given the fact that he recently reconverted to Islam, I wouldn't take this into account

[native night]

Nigel Short is a Grandmaster, but he only has an IQ of 110, your statement has some truth, but you really don't have to be that intelligent to be good at chess. Just like most things, it's about practice, not natural intelligence or talent. Sure, many chess players have high IQ, but they don't necessarily need high IQ to be good at chess.

Chess players are often shown as the humongous brained individuals in media, but that really isn't true.

Hikaru Nakamura also probably doesn't have a very high IQ. He did a test, (which wasn't the most accurate, but still a pretty decent test), and he only scored 102. I'd say his IQ might be a bit higher than that, but even then he still doesn't have an incredibly high IQ.

[north agate]

When you revert to Islam, your past sins are forgiven (given that you don’t do them again + atone for them) . Just general info, not sure how it applies here

You have a “clean slate” of sorts

[dusk shard]

They will deny exactly that because he’s not a saint lmfaoo

[dusk shard]

Jesus you embarrassed the shit out of yourself, the one acting like sneako is you

[dusk shard]

What shit points exactly

[unreal steeple]

cry

andrew is a clown

[dusk shard]

Max lvl trolling

[unreal steeple]

ur trolling for fanboying him tbh

broski is abusing virgins for money

and yall fell for it

cringe

[fiery ginkgo]

I don't think he has repented tbh he is still up to his usual antics

[dusk shard]

What you think isn’t always the truth

Nevertheless I can’t blame you

[fiery ginkgo]

ya tarmaa's approach isn't very productive

on that note tate fans suck

[fiery ginkgo]

therapy, women's individualism, reading, women's ability to drive, masculinity

or, vaping

or, matrix

[dusk shard]

Aw hell naw

[fiery ginkgo]

i think we can agree vaping sucks

but why is Tate criticizing vaping while also chain smoking a cigar 🤨

[dusk shard]

Did you not watch the damn video

🤦🏽‍♂️

[fiery ginkgo]

nar i did see a clip though

still a really stupid point to criticize vaping when you smoke cigars

but still smokes cigars

his whole memo/image is him smoking a cigar and sitting in a room for his podcast

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-tate-top-g-cigar-smoking-andrew-tate-cigar-gif-26262606

here: i searched up on gif 'tate' and this is one of the first results lmao

im not arguing vaping is good, far from it, but i am pointing out that hes a massive hypocrite which is pm his whole identity

[dusk shard]

Not hypocritical

[knotty sail]

im not for the things that andrew does but yeah tarma sucks balls at holding an arguement ngl

[dusk shard]

Vapes arent cigars

https://youtu.be/HbRLuRnB6FM

[dusk shard]

Completely embarrassed by some guy who took his course 🤦🏽‍♂️

[fiery ginkgo]

theyre virtually the same mechanism

vapes were intended to replace cigarettes, and by extension cigars thats their whole marketing scheme

therefore, vapes are comparable to cigars because that was the intended use, for smoking

do you not agree that both are unhealthy? advocating for not vaping is cool and all, but why also indirectly promote cigars by making it seem 'cool'

[dusk shard]

3:09

[dusk shard]

Both are unhealthy go to the timestamp

[fiery ginkgo]

he knows its unhealthy but still does it; is this not the same thing vapes are doing?

[dusk shard]

He literally explains it

[fiery ginkgo]

im pretty sure everyone who does vape recognizes its unhealthy but do it anyways because of addiction and because it looks cool

like, he even says it himself: cigars make him look cool like a mafia boss

by extension, smoking cigars = cool

🤨 🤨 🤨

[dusk shard]

Vaping = not cool

Mindblowing

The point is that people who vape are dorks and deserve their health problems

“Oh this is bad for me nooo”

It’s a rant

They’re dorks

Both are bad he literally acknowledges it

Nothing hypocritical

Vape = dork
Cigar = big G

[fiery ginkgo]

you do realize how stupid that point is, right? even if it isn't hypocritical, that's still a pretty bad take

[knotty sail]

what the fuck

[dusk shard]

It’s not stupid

[fiery ginkgo]

it's stupid lol

[dusk shard]

Vapes are stupid

It isn’t hypocritical

[fiery ginkgo]

you're stupid if you think people deserve health problems lol

[dusk shard]

Pfffff

[fiery ginkgo]

the sound of da cigar when leave mouth

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-tate-gif-26316329

[dusk shard]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-scott-vape-vaping-tom-scott-vape-gif-20384192

“My vapes done charging”

16 year olds vaping go do pushups you dont have time

[knotty sail]

can i ask but what makes Cigar = big G

[dusk shard]

Pretty obvious

https://tenor.com/view/mob-mafia-robert-deniro-gif-5129573

https://tenor.com/view/máfia-mafia-a-mafia-seujoji-gif-22316131

[fiery ginkgo]

again, nobody who takes vapes thinks its a healthy thing to do lol; tate's rant is sort of just pointless and dogging on people when he's guilty of doing the same thing for an equally stupid reaosn

people vape because it makes them feel good; okay. tate smokes cigars cuz he thinks he looks cool. okay.

[dusk shard]

He does look cool lmao

[fiery ginkgo]

both are pretty dumb reasons to take up an unhealthy habit we can both agree on

[dusk shard]

Eh wtv

[fiery ginkgo]

which is why i think its hypocritical to call out vaping when he smokes for an equally dumb reason

[dusk shard]

Not equal

[fiery ginkgo]

you right, smoking for aesthetic is even more stupid

[knotty sail]

this arguement is going in circles, ko, you too suck ass at holding an arguement

[dusk shard]

I dont really care what you think

There’s a reason I was like “eh wtv”, the argument’s ended, dork

[fiery ginkgo]

🤷‍♂️

we can both agree smoking is dumb tho?

[knotty sail]

what does wtv mean

[fiery ginkgo]

it means whatever

[dusk shard]

Of course

It’s all dumb

I agree

[fiery ginkgo]

🤝

hell yeah

[dusk shard]

However, there’s a difference between a 35 year old man smoking cigars who knows what he’s doing and some 16 year old dork hiding their vape from their parents

One’s a loser and one’s a millionaire or wtv

He’s not speaking objectively

He’s ranting from his view

[fiery ginkgo]

maybe, but the teen could be doing it for a plethora of reasons (peer pressure, stress, etc. etc.) while a grown man is doing it to impress other people xd

[dusk shard]

Yeah

Stupid teens

Crying about other dork teens

[fiery ginkgo]

real

[dusk shard]

Do some pushups

Thats his point

[fiery ginkgo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1045864742780162138/1058523687072051230/image0.gif

i HATE teens

[dusk shard]

They could be doing fuck all but they decide to vape “hey look at my vape 💨”

[fiery ginkgo]

🤷‍♂️ people do dumb stuff all the time; tate could be doing pushups but instead hes ranting about kids doing kid things

[dusk shard]

Strong ass punch

[dusk shard]

He works out everyday

[fiery ginkgo]

hampton is a diff beast

[fiery ginkgo]

could always fit in another pushup

[dusk shard]

Or was that a throw

[dusk shard]

Doesn’t need to

[fiery ginkgo]

can't tell tbh

[dusk shard]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-tate-wtf-what-confused-tate-gif-26307517

[fiery ginkgo]

wrong, there's no such thing as having enough push ups

[dusk shard]

It’s easy to maintain a good physique

[fiery ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-25985680

[dusk shard]

He would say that you’re a dork

Meaningless

[fiery ginkgo]

[knotty sail]

tbf videos like that help keep his viewers and his fanbase engaged in the tomfoolery

[dusk shard]

He’s not a gym rat and he’s not stupid

[knotty sail]

it does benefit him

[fiery ginkgo]

but ultimately the point of "instead of x do y" is in itself a dumb idea

[dusk shard]

Maybe watch an entire podcast with him

He’s not just “women stupid”

[knotty sail]

it is but his fans wouldnt know that

[dusk shard]

No fucking way

His “fans” watch his content

In full

Hundreds of thousands tuned in to his emergency room podcasts

[fiery ginkgo]

his fans also clip his videos which is why people have formed a perception on him

his own fans screwed him over which is the funniest part

[dusk shard]

Yeah, dorks cry about him instead of actually watching him

[fiery ginkgo]

but honestly there's some stuff that doesn't make sense i imagine even w context

like, whats his deal with reading? his opinion on reading is pretty cringe

[dusk shard]

He knows what he’s doing, talking like that gets him famous and he’s been like that for a while

[dusk shard]

He reads

So does his brother

Dont take everything literally

He’s not some dumbass

[knotty sail]

but his fans probably are

[dusk shard]

Absolutely

Some definitely are

Loud idiots

Hardly consider them fans

Actual fans dont say shit like “HAHAHA WOMEN DUMB STOP VAPING”

[knotty sail]

i dont think everything the tates say is wrong, there is some stuff that is well right like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMiX5EqgW4c&ab_channel=Motivation

[dusk shard]

Pff

Watch the entire thing

[knotty sail]

it isnt advice its a rant but u get my point

[dusk shard]

W opinion on the little mermaid as well

[dusk shard]

There’s stuff to get out of it

He’s not sitting down with an entire script

He just speaks his mind

It’s up to you if you want to take literally everything he says literally

[fiery ginkgo]

im watching these clips and he is blatantly saying he doesnt read books

[dusk shard]

He doesn’t hate women nor does he think they’re “his property”

[fiery ginkgo]

like, idk how context makes any of this better

[dusk shard]

Clips

[knotty sail]

hes probably just joking tbh

he once said sleep is emasculate

[dusk shard]

He literally is

I say dumb shit i don’t do too

[fiery ginkgo]

im so confused bruh im seeing clips from dozens of different videos of him and theyre all saying he doesnt read books

[dusk shard]

CLIPS

WATCH AN ENTIRE VIDEO

[knotty sail]

ok maybe he dont read then

[dusk shard]

Damn bruh

Smfh

Stop watching clips

He literally plays chess

[fiery ginkgo]

i mean yeah his dad's a grandmaster or smth i'd hope he plays chess lol

[dusk shard]

He’s a businessman too, he reads documents

[dusk shard]

Yeah he’s like top 1600 something

[native night]

everyones excuse about Tate saying cringe things are either, "hes probably just joking" and "he just talks in a way that sensitive men dont like"

i find it funny at this point

[dusk shard]

Because that’s literally what it is

[knotty sail]

u say that as if im defending tate

[dusk shard]

He’s not so precise and literal with his wording in these clips

[dusk shard]

Exactly

Use your brain and it’s obvious

The way he says shit is fucking funny

[knotty sail]

im saying i refuse to believe this man isnt joking about how sleep is emasculate

[dusk shard]

BREATHE AIR

[fiery ginkgo]

he is quite literally saying 'reading is for nerds' what do you meaaaaan

[dusk shard]

And you’re taking it literally

[fiery ginkgo]

youre looking through gaps in his wording that doesnt exist; you're making your own assumptions about the words hes saying

[native night]

hes not top 1600, hes 1600 elo

[dusk shard]

No, you’re taking it at face value

[native night]

unless you are talking about emory

[fiery ginkgo]

how do you not take "i've only read two books in my life" as not literal

[dusk shard]

Yeah whatever that is

[native night]

Average intelligence of a Tate supporter 💀

[fiery ginkgo]

brother top 1600 and 1600 elo is NOT THE SAME

[dusk shard]

Dont take it at face value

[native night]

bro really mixed up elo and top players

[dusk shard]

Trivia isn’t intelligence

[native night]

common knowledge is basically intelligence honestly

[dusk shard]

Why the fuck do I need to read an entire book about chess like a fucking nerd

[knotty sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzpgqrzZ-KE

[fiery ginkgo]

its the fundamental ranking system of chess lol

how dyou think his dad is a GM?

[knotty sail]

nah im p sure he joking cause he says "my brain is far too advanced"

[native night]

chess players dont always read chess books

[knotty sail]

ik he not dumb enough to say that shit

[dusk shard]

I dont care about chess Jesus Christmas

[dusk shard]

Proved my underlying point

You take everything literally

[fiery ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cWTGLlhOyrc

[native night]

true, because things are meant to be taken literally

[dusk shard]

YES DUMBASS YOU ARE RIGHT

[native night]

tate says that everything he says, he doesnt regret

[dusk shard]

He doesn’t regret them, he acknowledges that there are idiots in the world

There’s a difference

[native night]

There's also a difference between top 1600 and 1600 elo

[dusk shard]

Saying them got him the fame he has now, why should he regret it?

[dusk shard]

Ok

Nobody cares

Dork

[fiery ginkgo]

ko you say we shouldnt take things literally but why should we accept your interpretation of tate's words?

[native night]

do people actually say dork?

are you kidding?

[dusk shard]

Dumb question

[native night]

are you actually genuinely saying dork?

im worried for you

people stopped saying dork 20 years ago

[knotty sail]

yo but ion think he talked smack about books in that clip

[dusk shard]

Why are you so dense

[knotty sail]

hes just saying he doesnt read books

[native night]

add more to the argument please

[dusk shard]

I’m not going into an in depth analysis about obvious shit

[dusk shard]

Shut up dork

[native night]

also, "dumb question" as you would say

[native night]

again, people never use dork

im genuinely concerned

[dusk shard]

Elaborate

[dusk shard]

No youre not

[native night]

Elaborate

[dusk shard]

You don’t care about me more than I care about you

You’re bitching about me calling you a dork

[native night]

Im honestly just here because i find you funny

in the way i find tate funny

[dusk shard]

Here it is

[native night]

your way of speaking interests me

[dusk shard]

Yes

[fiery ginkgo]

i see i see

[native night]

its fun to speak to a genuine tate fan

its like interviewing a small version of tate

anyways

[dusk shard]

You think too much of yourself

[native night]

well uh

[knotty sail]

i was gonna post sumn to make fun of ko but its too inappropriate for this server

[native night]

aww man

[dusk shard]

And you obviously know very little about Tate

[native night]

I actually enjoy watching tate, i just have a different opinion

i dont necesarrily know any less

i just dont think in the same way that you do

[dusk shard]

Very much do

[fiery ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ufsZ1yuojgI
statement from tristan suggests Tate was actually being fr

[native night]

Elaborate

[dusk shard]

You watch him (clips) because he’s “funny”

[native night]

no, ive watched full interviews

[dusk shard]

You don’t watch him for his actual views

Surely

[native night]

I do

I agree with quite a bit of what he says actually

i find his views interesting

[fiery ginkgo]

could ye expand on the importance of this

[native night]

i think he should honestly be a knight in the medieval era

of course 90% of what he says, i disagree with

[dusk shard]

https://youtu.be/iv-C4CVGk28

[native night]

you cant send something with a thumbnail like that

thats horrendous

[fiery ginkgo]

brother i meant expand on what you mean when you say watching someone with a certain mindset

why did you send me a link to a 5 hour interview dude 😭

[dusk shard]

“I do agree with quite a bit of what he says”

“of course 90% of what he says, i disagree with”

[native night]

its 5 hours?

[native night]

its still quite a bit, because he says a ton of stuff

percentage doesnt equal amount

[dusk shard]

Yeah you obviously haven’t watched full videos

[native night]

i watched a one hour one

5 hours is way too much useless time of my life

i gotta shower and sleep, but it was honestly fun talking to you

i find these conversations interesting

so goodbye i guess

[knotty sail]

to defend that, he actually says at the end he reads book for entertainment. I also have a similar opinion about how its not gonna change your life and make u do a complete 180. Though i dont agree that its a waste of time because you can still learn, just not to the extent that i described earlier

[dusk shard]

He said he likes me the same way he likes Tate, we both talk in funny ways apprently. Then he goes on to say bullshit like “I actually have watched full videos”, if you actually watched a full video, then you’d know that he’s not yelling and saying silly stuff in the funny way you see in clips

goodbye I guess
returns

[native night]

Ok, final message, that serious stuff youre talking about, is the 10 percent i agree with.

[dusk shard]

Clips aren’t 90%

You can listen to podcasts while doing other stuff, like me

Adieu

[blazing sapphire]

I just think its disturbing how many people subscribe to his beliefs without looking at Tate as an actual person.

[dusk shard]

Bro thinks Tate needs to be a saint

[blazing sapphire]

Not necessarily, I just find it strange to take advice from a human trafficker personally. I also think the way you conduct yourself regarding the topic could be seen as an example.

[dusk shard]

Jesus fucking Christ

There is literally no evidence of that

[dusk shard]

Are you saying andrew tate doesnt have ‘shit points’? 😂

[dusk shard]

Because youd know that

Ppl who automatically brand it as ‘fake allegations’ are just as stupid as the ppl who consider him guilty from the get go

[shy abyss]

I dont believe in having multiples girl friends , I would rather be loyal to one woman that I really love and trust , a shit point where he said that if your gf has an only fans you should get 80% of the money , first why tf would you have a gf that does only fans , BUT after he got cancelled the shit points became less

But there are some Really really good points that he makes , people espicially in the US are starting to get very sensitive

And

Nvm

Like this is the shit that I like
https://youtu.be/LbxLYzXmk1w

[dusk shard]

Yes I would

[shy abyss]

Should he get arrested? No unless the alegations are true then fuck him , to prison he goes but I really doubt that he does stuff like that

[dusk shard]

Then youre just as dumb

[shy abyss]

Dont get sensitive brother/sister

Its just an argument

Dont take it personal

[dusk shard]

sensitive? I jusy put it bluntly

Because it is a dumb take

[shy abyss]

You dont have to call him dumb because you dont agree with him

[dusk shard]

to claim you know everything that u can brand it a fake allegation from the get go? That is dumb

[shy abyss]

This is the kind of arguments that I would rather stay away from , if you cant handle OPINIONS then I would prefer that you dont argue

[dusk shard]

Just like branding him guilty from the get go

[dusk shard]

I wont call him dumb from now on. Just what is being said.

is that cool with you misho?

[shy abyss]

I havent read the whole chat but I beleive that you can use better words

[dusk shard]

Oh youd like me to sugar coat it

[shy abyss]

Yes I would appreciate it

[dusk shard]

Alright

It is not very smart.

[shy abyss]

Yeah , now if he wants to be a stubborn then you can just not argue with him

[dusk shard]

I wont take it personally if he doesn’t take it personally

[dusk shard]

I personally agree on loyalty to one girl, but that’s not really a shit point. He speaks from experience, and he’s rich and famous. Why does he have to be “bound” to one girl? He doesn’t want to and he has the means to have multiple girls whenever.

And for the OF I agree that if she wants to do it then that’s fucking weird and I’d breakup but for him, he literally did a webcam business with several women he considered his girlfriends so once again he’s speaking from his experience. It can work for many other people too, which is why he says it.

He wants to direct his influence on a certain group of men and in this case, you and I aren’t those people. Not really an L, just a disagreement in ideals.

[dusk shard]

Trifling

[shy abyss]

I haven't read the Whole chat but from what I read he looks a bit stubborn and want to argue for the sake of trolling not arguing , BUT I havent read everything

[shy abyss]

Yeah he can do whatever he wants , thats not a shit point that I waa talking about thats my opinion

[shy abyss]

No, I really like some stuff that he says , it motivates me and I can agree with him from what I see

[dusk shard]

You responded to my message questioning what shit points he had, but yes, it’s opinion-based sometimes and it isn’t for everyone and SHOULDN’T be for everyone.

There are many masculine or average women with good marriages

[shy abyss]

I dont believe is an opinion statment

[dusk shard]

That’s an opinion in of itself

Anyways I’ve got an event to attend

I’ll respond to these next messages later

[shy abyss]

I gotta go but at the end
I agree with SOME of the stuff that he says AND
I DISAGREE with Some of the stuff that he says

[dusk shard]

Money and fame have nothing to do with loyalty. If your partner is ok with you not being loyal then all is good. However that is different to lying to your partner and doing it anyway and when they find out to pretend like you havent just hurt them. That is not nice whatsoever. Or not shitty. If he discloses from the start then i agree with you it isnt shitty whatsoever (but from the stories he has told tht doesn’t seem to be the case)

As for the web cam atuff. He says that a woman is ruined is she does sex work. Or if she has a high body count. He is easily a hypocrite with that since he partook in it and has ‘ruined’ women himself.

Also if you think that the misogyny is not a shit aspect of it then you are already tone deaf to all of it in my opinion @dusk shard

[unreal steeple]

real

[dusk shard]

Do you think that women also need it? And why

[drowsy viper]

Tate's good at making money, he's so good he makes money from talking about how good he is at making money

[dusk shard]

Perhaps you should have said ‘every young man needs it’ since young men are found to be more competitive than older men.

he "won" life at the cost of ruining it for others🙃

human trafficking and stuff

@minor spear ‘ok woman’ is exactly what id expect from a misogynist’s fan

btw competitiveness is male's skill? XDDD

go touch grass, 12 yo keyboard warrior

[drowsy viper]

that's even worse

[dusk shard]

I asked if women also needed and u proceeded to answer with that.

the fact that ya are pizza andrew's fan at 17 is even more worse 💀💀

It would be weird if u had a problem with my statement

cuz normally ya outgrow it when you turn 15

Then u also dont need to say how it would be more helpful for a gender when i ask you outright if women would also benefit from it

[drowsy viper]

the "ok woman" was unnecessary though

🫤