Disable xp gain for challenges (Because of the level limits) | PCG | Page 1

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Sir Dapper G - "Hey PSA to everyone that is worried about over leveling mons for challenges

Simply forfiet when you know youve lost. Do not finish just surrender, you will gain no exp.

youre welcome"

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 8:32 AM

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Im not gonna constantly surrender cause there can be that chance where I could’ve won but wouldn’t have a clue

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And with the option of surrender most times the risk isn’t worth it

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And with the constant surrender to protect the Pokémon from lvling up im having to give up so shortly and probably many others too without knowing the outcome

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 8:41 AM

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unreal idol Im not gonna constantly surrender cause there can be that chance where I could’v...

That is ridiculous reasoning. We're talking about you being down to your sixth mon and confirming the loss there. If it's a speed tie and one shot mattering at the end then take your shot, no one is saying not to.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 8:43 AM

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It could be a one v one scenario with the opponents pokemon might or might not having a prio move but we wouldn’t know since the risk is far too great since of lvling

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My last match i never knew avalugg had aqua jet until then

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 8:45 AM

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Pretty much every moved is already listed in the channel for the challenges. If you're not using those resources that's on you tbh. If they have priority and you don't and you know the next hit kills you then give up, simple.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 8:48 AM

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You say its a ridiculous reason but i say its not and its perfectly a valid reason on why no one gonna fully commit on the battle

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Unless you have great Pokémon with great ivs and great moves you can take risks all day long

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You get that option but having to play safe all the time sucks

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 8:50 AM

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Your reasoning is laziness, so yes it's not a valid reason if we're being realistic. Doing the same thing over and over and complaining is not how you win the challenge. It's good advice after the complaints came up about exp.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 8:50 AM

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Well my comments aren’t for you there for jonas

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 8:50 AM

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What exactly is the 'risk of surrendering' for example you mentioned above? Or the counter to ending it on your sixth mon with proper research on the challenge if you can't go on?

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 8:51 AM

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I have changed up my team several times

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I am not lazy whats so ever

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Ive even disced a few Pokémon in order to get getter moves

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 8:52 AM

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The aqua jet move was listed three days ago. What exactly was the reason you didn't use the resource then?

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 8:53 AM

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My reasoning is that times surrender isn’t always the best option

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Yet its the safest route

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And an easy one

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Battles can be intense especially these challenges sometimes i lose count on how many moves are used and it’s probably happens with alot of others too

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 8:55 AM

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So if you are agreeing it's the safest then in the face of certain defeat what exactly is the 'threat of surrender' you're using as a point of contention?

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After doing some games I think the PP count is the least of worries with these teams tbh. Sucker punch was one but that's gone now it seems.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 8:57 AM

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Your opponent could potentially be out of prio moves which could’ve lead to your victory in the battle but without being able to know for sure you surrender not risking the chance of victory

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 8:57 AM

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You do realize priority moves (other than an extreme speed snorlax) have like 20 pp right? Like I said PP is not a worry there.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 8:59 AM

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Certain defeat isn’t guaranteed unless surrendered

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With constant exp gain everyone gonna surrender without taking risks

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Cause no one wants to be the Pokémon to over lvl to be unable to use

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Surrender is a great option not to gain exp but also negates all the risk

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:02 AM

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If you're in a position to have to surrender and continue reaching that so many times it's not going to do any difference to remove the cap after it was already raised 3 levels.

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If there's no cap, what risk is there at that point?

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:03 AM

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If there is no risk why have the cap anyways

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:04 AM

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The tip is for those who reached the end of their rope, there's still risk in winning last minute, but otherwise prior to that would functionally be identical

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:04 AM

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If both teams are maxed at lvl 50 why have lvl capped at 18

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:05 AM

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That's part of the challenge. They didn't want a fleet of twinked out Fairy/Ice pokemon from main teams going into the challenge obviously.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:06 AM

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It will still be a hard fight regardless

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Especially since the bot reads your moves and chooses what Pokémon to counter with

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:08 AM

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Again you're ignoring that they wanted a challenge here. They clearly didn't want a swarm of Weavile/Togekiss/etc. that have been prepped for battle for months to breeze through it. It's very beatable without needing to go to no real restrictions there.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:10 AM

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What im saying is even if there is a chance of victory regardless how small with the exp still being able to be gained no one is gonna take the chance for there Pokémon to go over the challenge lvl requirement

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They will surrender

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Just to be able to ise that Pokémon again

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Without the exp we don’t have to worry about it no more

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The challenge is already difficult enough

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Why make it even harder

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:13 AM

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So your argument has gone from "lvl 15 too low" to this tip reducing that risk even further (especially with the added three levels) to "give us unlimited exp just because that now 5% risk is too high".

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:13 AM

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Bah im not great at defending myself

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Im willing to talk and try to give good reasons

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:14 AM

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Well let's start there, I'm not unreasonable. Is the challenge mainly from the Ice/Fairy restriction or the level for you?

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:14 AM

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Lvl

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I have no problem with the typing sure it’s annoying but it can be done

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:15 AM

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If the current Pokemon you're using were lvl 20 would they all still be on the team, like is the moves good enough you think?

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:15 AM

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No

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But they would help

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I don’t have many fairy types or ice types maxed out

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:17 AM

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Okay, so let's expand slightly. With all the Ice spawning recently are you comfortable in your contribution progress that you could say you're getting options to use since starting the challenges or not really?

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Fairy imo has not spawned as much so I do know those have been less available.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:17 AM

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With the spawn of lapras and cloyster my progress has gotten better

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I was stuck by only killing 2 now im getting 3

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:18 AM

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Those are great mons too, though people have been talking down on Lapras. I can't bear to part with my main three and I have a penchant for selling extra mons. XD

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:18 AM

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But with my mamoswine already being lvl 18 and teetering on lvling up im having no choice but to surrender

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With a great Pokémon lvling up I would have to wait for another good Pokémon to spawn

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With could take min hours or literally days

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:20 AM

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Okay, so you have some options under lvl 18 now, but ideally you would want more options. Since we're still fairly early into the raid overall is it more a timing concern then that you'd rather not continue improving the team? It slightly sounds like you've been attacking every hour if the mamo is lvling up steadily.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:21 AM

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I literally attack every hour or if I remember to do so

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And with mamo being my only counter to klefki i have no choice but to surrender

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:22 AM

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So the lvling concern is more correct to redefine as a timing concern then. I know you mentioned waiting for more spawns but are you worried you can't finish the challenges? Personally once you're past this one I think you'll probably have solid chances moving on the rest, possibly with the one lvl restriction one later being an issue.

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:23 AM

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Im basically just sitting and waiting for a decent Pokémon to spawn to swap out with my team

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I feel like zaraki challenge is gonna be my downfall on not gonna be able to beat the challenges

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All cause of the exp

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Im surrendering cause of the exp

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Not the Pokémon

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:24 AM

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So the mammo is key to Klefki then as the real hinge, one thing I did was utilize nature's madness. Superfang is another to watch for but once the klefki is gone what do you rate your chances at passing?

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 9:25 AM

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Good

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If articuno doesn’t constantly get lucky and hit dynamic punch

outer grove Dec 19, 2021, 9:26 AM

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Yeah that part sucked tbh, articuno is a beast.

molten turtle Dec 19, 2021, 9:38 AM

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having mons level out of the challenges is half the fun IMO

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 10:47 AM

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Not for the new people tho

viscid lodge Dec 19, 2021, 1:22 PM

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I dont think the 'unfair for the new people' argument counts for the zarawki challenge since there has been more ice spawns in the last 4 days already than in half a year before

unreal idol Dec 19, 2021, 8:54 PM

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Yes but most of the ice type spawns gets destroyed by the 2 Pokémon with steel moves

#Disable xp gain for challenges (Because of the level limits)