#Feedback after gametest

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solid scroll
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lets start by saying what annoyed us the most.

  1. endgame portal ending like 7-8 seconds before time was over?

  2. (Scaling) Hearthguard seems damn op with proper gear, me and a buddy think he was blue equipped and me purple, fought a solo hearthguard with purple gear, we stood no chance even tho we kept stunning him and lets be honest i had alot of damage gear as lightningcaller and landed tons of combos on him. I dont know if its the class that outperforms the better gear, because it seemed like we just got charged with no tactic and we have killed most people pretty easy but no this purple hearthguard (cptclaw) i know his a good player but it just seemed crazy that charging two people who kept stunning you should make you win easy.

  3. Solo buff? after the incident with this player, we thought that maybe the solo buff should scale down the better gear you got, because all those extra stats and 40% extra healing is crazy when you have good gear. I mean it would probably have been better for me to run solo with my purple gear. So i think you should either remove it when people get good gear or scale it down. It makes totally sense that the solo people have it in the beginning when they dont have gear or bad gear.

  4. Potion limit on entering lobby, this is again related to the player, we also found out he was running with a full inventory of potions to stomp people, maybe there should be a limit on lets say 12 potions? just a thought

  5. Quests, they need to tell you who you should deliver them to after completion and also perhaps alittle more direction, some were good and said you can find this boss in the north east side. or this guy is in the elven ruins.

  6. player number, It would be nice to enable perhaps 3 man parties again? but if you did then maybe only make it 3man lobbies or 2man. Had some buddies who wanted to play but didnt want to play solo.

There is probably more, but it was nice to play again, would love more long playtests.

/Wilffio

tough gyro
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@solid scroll have you played any PvP solo games vs duos before making claims such as #3? Just wondering 😄

snow sleet
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just here to share some of my thoughts on it.

  1. fair think end portal you have to open yourself and takes 45 sec ofcourse and idk when it is interactable but think it should be interactable on last circle closing (think thats 1 min)
    2/3. kinda yes there are multiple things for me with the game is that HP is very strong kinda imo. since the game is kind of like like one shot nature and if you play lightningcaller or warden (maybe druid aswell) you would want to build your gear towards AP/Ad stuff but then you got the problem of your HP doesn't improve. so basicly as a lightningcaller if you start out at gearscore 0 or 40 if you want to build your items you will stay at that hp 950 (most likely). and with gearstore you could role AP gear with hp which is fine but ye back on previous playtest wasn't really possible (which my feedback is kinda based on).
    and ye hearthguard scales with hp/defense stuff so makes sense that its strong but ye your in a duo so you got double the output but then again once HG gets on you your dead.
    but ye think solo buff is fine they wanted to do some changes this playtest not sure if it happend but i think solo buff is needed for beginners (atleast when they get matched against duo's)
  2. ehh thats just claww being claww and it still takes time to drink potions. only thing that i can say about potions is again that potions favour HP builds as its % wise. think a flat/mixed amount like 150 + like 5/10% hp would be better
    5.agreeed just some qol always good.
  3. they have said they want to try it out again with 3 players sometime in the future but stability and making it work well takes prio
quasi echo
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2 - Heartguard is absolutely not op - sure you cant blow him up but thats the point of the character. Hearguard is very reliant on you making a mistake when it comes to PvP. He is slow and bulky and probably the easiest to pretict out of all the characters. For PvE he is probably one of the best ones after you get the hang of being in melee but that is all there is to it
3 - Idk why you think that the solo buff should be nearfed as you get more gear and how would that be fair towards the better geared players. If anything it should be changed to scale and become even better with higher gear score considering that 10 points worth of stats of gear score is much more valuable at 0 than at 45 gear score which is why most of us play solo in the beginning even when we have duos waiting. Meanwhile at high gear score having a duo, especially a skilled duo makes the game trivially easy
4- potion limit is just unnecessary.... I've played both with and against cptclaw who you are accusing of abusing potions and i dont think i ever noticed him using many more potions than i do... Mind you i play lightning caller who has less hp so i have less to heal up to beginn with.... and i usually bring 2-5 stacks of potions depending on what i wanna do that run... i am usually left with more than i brought from picking them up

snow sleet
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can't really talk about 2 as not alot of late game fighting/end game people but i think (HG and wyrdseeker are the OP 30+ gearscore classes when it comes to late game) in solo atleast fully DUO/team format higher things might be different
3. agreed i think atleast for the squishier classes the buff doesnt add to much late game and i feel there should be some scaling when someone hits like the round mark but hard to say howmuch / strong but ye it feels bad losing to 10-20 gearscore (cuz everyone almost really oneshots) when you have 40+ gear and no hp (this gear harder to get by but still doesnt matter to much when abbilities can just block your full damage then those 10-20 gearscore duo's can kill you)
4.already talked about

snow sleet
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also to reitterate on point 3 so basicly you can still get oneshotted by someone that also got the scaling / hit the same but ye not the other way around (but ye might increase some problems for newer players fighting experienced players with current playerbase, so ideally would be better if there were like also map restrictions for gearscore etc but ye in the end u want solo/team seperate so idk how to make it work for both sides

hardy silo
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honestly with a whyrseeker is more problematic having good gear on solo than a HG, the HG is very slow and he not have hight dmg, then on duo vs a HG solo is know your champ for stay at distance from him use the resources good and you can win, vs a WS you have to deal with someone fast with strong dmg and recover of life for any dmg she deal and the slowdown WS apply is strong enouthg for cacth anyone but you know WS is complex to play

solid scroll
# quasi echo 2 - Heartguard is absolutely not op - sure you cant blow him up but thats the po...
  1. Yes i still think its strong, its not really the small numbers but the example here again with a hearthguard that scales on hp who then gets extra 500hp and 40% healing is damn strong late game.

i think the buff is important in the early game, but when you get the gear it should be more about skill and ofc some gear still. Not just because a buff scales pretty good on your character. Im sad to hear you rather play solo if you have a mate to play with in the beginning, sounds like you chasing the meta :(. Especially here in betas (my opinion) i would always choose a mate over what might be best.

  1. I never accused him of abusing potions? i just found out he had a ton, but Claw clearly had a goal, to fight as many players as possible because he was farming people instead of PvE and thats fair.
solid scroll
# snow sleet can't really talk about 2 as not alot of late game fighting/end game people but...
  1. Yeah i know the buff is worse for others, but i dont mind not having it with good gear, i atleast hope it was intended to give solo players an easier start. Since monsters takes way longer to kill with bad / no gear.

but yeah the real fix might be Solo lobbies vs 2 / 3man lobbies.

i think it would cause new problems if there was map restrictions related to gearscore, because lets say the endgame zones in wolfslair would be pretty hard / take long time if you have bad gear.

solid scroll
# tough gyro <@199262168993103874> have you played any PvP solo games vs duos before making c...

Yeah i have! and usually it requires some tactic to finish the job. (Played alot Dark and Darker and League of legends). What i was sad to see like i mention was just the multiple fights with us, because you just charged ahead even tho you got tons of stuns on you and it didnt seem to touch you. I saw one of the other times when you got me in a bush and then attack right out on two players outside it, that would be better tactical because they didnt see you where when you fought us we were on pretty open spaces and even kited you a few times, but again it did not seem to matter. Did you use the solo potion (dmg reduction)?

tough gyro
solid scroll
tough gyro
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after an encounter with a single, very sweaty and likely best geared player for PvP in the region at the time, all you could think of is "potions OP, class OP, solo OP, matchmaking bad". All in one post! My 'aggresiveness' is just making sure you're able to see things from other perspective as well.

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your view and feelings about the state of balance is one thing, but naming my gear 'purple' when I had 5 legendaries (golds) equipped is just inaccurate

edit: having said that, your post is constructive so sorry if I come as abrasive, I'm polish and I guess its a national trait

solid scroll
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Never said potions was op, I said the class seemed damn strong with proper gear in late game. And as Kaz mentioned then yes the game Favours high hp for potion users and solo buff assist even more with that.

Never said anything about matchmaking either. like I mentioned I know you are a good player and ofc you get matched vs all others when there is a very small test group.

I just said it seemed crazy it was so easy to do what you did, and that might be because of the class and that you had very good gear, gear focused on pvp aswell.

I said you had people because that’s what the game said, that you were ranging in 40-49 gear score then it makes sense there could be some legendaries in there. So thank you for saying that you had that.

Back to solo buff. I kinda wish to know what it was intended for… because for me I feel like it should be intended for new users. But if they not gonna make a solo lobby / map then I understand there should be some kinda of buff to solo players. @torn arch

solid scroll
snow sleet
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solo buff really there to help the experience of a solo player when duo's can get matched in your game

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since the player count isnt to big so you would get alot of empty lobbies if only you would get matched with solo